I'm afraid I am not in the area to see it and I don't have (and don't plan to get for a while) Blu-Ray. I hope that Fox eventually puts it out on regular DVD.

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To: pota@yahoogroups. com
From: digitalcinema@ yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 16:36:49 -0700
Subject: RE: [pota] UNCUT ORIGINAL CONQUEST SCREENING IN TEXAS!!!

Mike,

I hope you're in TX and can see it.  PLEASE report back if you do.

- Scott B.

Mike R <mego73@hotmail. com> wrote:

Thanks Scott, for letting me know without the uncalled for insulting of the President.

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To: pota@yahoogroups. com
From: digitalcinema@ yahoo.com
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 14:38:37 -0700
Subject: RE: [pota] UNCUT ORIGINAL CONQUEST SCREENING IN TEXAS!!!

According to what I heard this week from a source with FOX  - it WILL NOT available on stardard DVD, as of now.

Scott B.

Mike R <mego73@hotmail. com> wrote:

I've sort of cut in and out of these discussions. I know about the blue ray set being released with the new version of Conquest. But I assumed it would also be available on conventional DVD.  Am I wrong to assume that?

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To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
From: apefan23@yahoo. com
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 21:54:34 -0700
Subject: [pota] UNCUT ORIGINAL CONQUEST SCREENING IN TEXAS!!!

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I will not go into further detail because I know this is a group for POTA and not Politics.

I think because POTA is such a great political allegory on the United States (and remember, of the two screenwriters, Rod Serling was very political, and Michael Wilson was a victim of the Blacklist), discussion of politics is very appropriate here, but if such things are going to easily offend someone, then one must simply learn to ignore them, otherwise it can get too heated. You have to just learn to let it go. Remember, opinions are like a@#holes -- we all have them, and they all stink!

Now then, on the subject of the current President... I called him a dummy. Well, I was thinking about it, and I think a better description would be one right out of POTA, and that is... A BLOODY BABOON!

Yeah, that seems about right to me.

-- Rory

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> I think because POTA is such a great political allegory
> on the United States (and remember, of the two screenwriters,
> Rod Serling was very political, and Michael Wilson was a
> victim of the Blacklist), discussion of politics is very
> appropriate here, but if such things are going to easily
> offend someone, then one must simply learn to ignore them,
> otherwise it can get too heated. Â You have to just learn
> to let it go.

> Now then, on the subject of the current President... I
> called him a dummy. Â Well, I was thinking about it, and
> I think a better description would be one right out of
> POTA, and that is... A BLOODY BABOON!Â

> You've never read the novelization, I take it?

> It is with me. I will not go into further detail because I know this

> If it were, I would start to cut loose on the people I think are

> And you would be offended if I put down someone you like in the

> Hunter! I'm surprised with you!

> The differences are -- you see an escaping ape killed at the
> beginning (before the credits), the guy with the flamethrower catches
> on fire, there's more violence (cops getting stabbed and such),
> Governor Breck gets his brains bashed out and Caesar tells MacDonald
> tough cookies if he doesn't like it.

> Those are alternate scenes we know about. That doesn't mean that's
> what's appearing on the disc.... My point still stands that no one
> here knows exactly what will be in this "new" version until they
> release it (or Scott gets his promo copy).

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> A very good idea--or, perhaps, someone could send Fox the file itself?
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> > I was thinking. Â We have a file here of BENEATH's NATO film.
> Â Maybe it should be posted to YouTube so someone at Fox can see that
> the thing actually does, or did, exist?
> > Maybe an original 35mm or 16mm print is no longer around?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>

--- On Mon, 9/1/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Happy 10th Anniversary POTA!
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, September 1, 2008, 12:46 PM
> Thank you Donna and everyone else for your good wishes.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "DONNA SPIRES"
> <dspires501@...> wrote:
> >
> > May there be many more years.
> >
> > Donna
> >
> >
> > >From: scott bosco digitalcinema@...
> > >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Happy 10th Anniversary
> POTA!
> > >Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Here's to the 10 behind and many more to
> follow!
> > > Scott B.
> > >
> > >Luiz Saulo Adami apedami@... wrote:
> > > Congratulations, Apes around the World!
> > >
> > > We are the Apes!
> > >
> > > Saulo Adami
> > > From Brazil
> > >
> > >--- Em dom, 31/8/08, James JamesA1102@...
> escreveu:
> > >
> > > De: James JamesA1102@...
> > >Assunto: [pota] Re: Happy 10th Anniversary POTA!
> > >Para: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > >Data: Domingo, 31 de Agosto de 2008, 8:45
> > >
> > > Thanks Mark. It's the entusiasm and graditude
> of people like, as
> > >well as our love of POTA, that makes it all worth
> it.
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Mark"
> rkid67@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kudos to James and company for keeping this
> shrine afloat for ten
> years.
> > >Here's to another
> > > > ten years of POTA. Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >---------------------------------
> > > Novos endereços, o Yahoo! que você conhece.
> Crie um email novo
> com a sua
> > >cara @... ou @....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >

>
> I was responsible for the initial discovery of the BENEATH NATO

> and infact arranged and paid for it's transfer from the original

> film way back in 1985 (along with the then undiscovered MAKE UP

> and a host of other films, including the CONQUESt behind the scenes
> footage that was used in BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES).

> is actually on BETA tape. I let the "powers that be" at the BLU RAY
> production studio know I had the material, but they evidently do

> plan to utilize it on the set.What you see now on YOUTUBE

> are is 9th generation copies from a VHS version I offered at the

> to select APES afficianados who were never supposed to recirculate

> Joe Russo
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> > A very good idea--or, perhaps, someone could send Fox the file

> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> > > I was thinking. Â We have a file here of BENEATH's NATO film.
> > Â Maybe it should be posted to YouTube so someone at Fox can see

> > the thing actually does, or did, exist?
> > > Maybe an original 35mm or 16mm print is no longer around?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Rory
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Denise" <denisedkde@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Your story was wonderful, I apologize if I stepped on any toes.
>
> Denise
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Denise,
> >
> > Thanks,for your comment, I re-read the passage,you are probably
> > right, but when I read it, it seems to make sense to me, but I
guess
> > it's the way people read things.
> >
> > Anyway, thanks for your imput.
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Denise" <denisedkde@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This is great, I loved it! The dialog seemed authentic and it
was
> > > well paced. I have only one tiny thing you might think about
> > > changing; 'regards to his constitution'. Regards should be
regard
> > > singular, i.e. 'regarding his constitution' or 'in regard to'.
> > > Regards plural is used as in 'give my regards to Broadway'.
> > >
> > > Fantastic!
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63"
<peter_karsten63@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > New fan fiction called 'Farrow'
> > > >
> > > > I uploaded the file for all to read. Look in my
folder 'Peter
> > Karsten'
> > > > to dowmload and read.
> > > >
> > > > And let me know what you think.
> > > >
> > > > Don't be fooled by the size, the story is only 6 pages long,
the
> > rest
> > > > of the stuff is appendices of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Peter.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Yep, in that context, it would be "regard" rather than "regards."
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Denise" <denisedkde@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Your story was wonderful, I apologize if I stepped on any toes.
> >
> > Denise
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63" <peter_karsten63@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Denise,
> > >
> > > Thanks,for your comment, I re-read the passage,you are
probably
> > > right, but when I read it, it seems to make sense to me, but I
guess
> > > it's the way people read things.
> > >
> > > Anyway, thanks for your imput.
> > >
> > > Peter.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Denise" <denisedkde@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is great, I loved it! The dialog seemed authentic and
it was
> > > > well paced. I have only one tiny thing you might think about
> > > > changing; 'regards to his constitution'. Regards should be
regard
> > > > singular, i.e. 'regarding his constitution' or 'in regard
to'.
> > > > Regards plural is used as in 'give my regards to Broadway'.
> > > >
> > > > Fantastic!
> > > >
> > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "peter_karsten63"
<peter_karsten63@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > New fan fiction called 'Farrow'
> > > > >
> > > > > I uploaded the file for all to read. Look in my
folder 'Peter
> > > Karsten'
> > > > > to dowmload and read.
> > > > >
> > > > > And let me know what you think.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't be fooled by the size, the story is only 6 pages
long, the
> > > rest
> > > > > of the stuff is appendices of interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, m c <aboro3085@...> wrote:
>
> *** This was on AOL a couple nights ago... ***
>
> Blu-ray 'Has Five Years Left,' Says Samsung Exec
>
> by Donald Melanson, posted Sep 4th 2008 at 3:43PM
>
>
>
> While we can't say if it represents a general sentiment at Samsung
or not, the company's UK director of consumer electronics, Andy
Griffiths, sure went out on a bit of a limb in a recent interview
with Pocket-lint, with him saying that Blu-ray has, to paraphrase
David Bowie, only "five years left," and that he "certainly wouldn't
give it ten." He did say, however, that he thought 2008 would be Blu-
ray's year, adding that "it's going to be huge", and that Samsung
is "heavily back-ordered at the moment."
>
> As for Samsung's future after Blu-ray's supposed demise, Griffiths
seems to think that OLED will be the next big thing, and he's pegging
2010 as a possible date for it to become mainstream and replace LCD.
He didn't offer a prediction as to when it will die out though.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 9/5/08, drhasslein <drhasslein@...> wrote:
>
> From: drhasslein <drhasslein@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: Digest Number 4165
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 9:32 PM
>
> Blu is certainly being pushed. Tonight, at the Arclight Hollywood
> (Cinerama Dome) there is a screening of Kubrick's 2001 roadshow
> version, and the first 100 people in line get the Blu ray Special
> Edition FREE. Admission $14.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@> wrote:
> >
> > Rich,
> > Have hope. It could be a publicity ploy to just to make the
BLU
> sell more. Right now with HD-DVD out of the picture there is
> opportunity for BLU, but not absolute. It could still fail.
Numbers
> for its saturation are at a point that make it definite. Common
> sense would make the studios start to develop release that make
them
> more attractive with features not available on standard DVD
release.
> But if the number don't increase that's still money invested in
> production that might not stand up to the investment - in which
case
> they will have to make it available to a format which can support
the
> cost.
>

--- On Tue, 9/2/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...> wrote:

From: zasco1957 <Zasco1957@...>
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The Final Cornelius Journal/New Weekly Feature
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 5:51 AM



I missed the last two journal how can i get them







You're welcome! I too am going to miss each Friday reading Dr. Cornelius' superb Journal.

Zach


-------Original Message----- --


From: James
Date: 08/31/08 06:55:06
To: pota@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [pota] Re: The Final Cornelius Journal/New Weekly Feature



Thanks Zach! Rumor has it Dr. Branton married a Hollywood producer and retired;-)
Glad you liked Cornelius' Journal. It was a great experience doing and I'm sad that it is now over. Historian Doris Kearns Goodwin once commented how when she wrote a historical biography she would really get to know her subject, like Lincoln or FDR, and often missed spending time with them when the project was over. I think I understand that now. During the past year I got to spend one afternoon a week with Dr. Cornelius. I'm going to miss him.
--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "zasco1957" <Zasco1957@.. .> wrote:
>
> James, the last entry of the Journal was stunning! I had always wondered
> what ever became of Dr. Lewis Dixon. But what became of Stephanie Branton?
> I suppose that this entry, along with his own journal that he himself was
> keeping, eventually ended up as the Book Of Taylor, which the Taylorites
> went by in a couple of hundred years or so in the future.
>
>
>
> In any case, CORNELIUS' JOURNAL was a fantastic one. I want to thank you
> and Mr. Lawless for posting such a fine article.
>
>
>
> You and my other Apester friends have a great Labor Day.
>
>
>
> Zach
>
>
>
> -------Original Message----- --
>
>
>
> From: James
>
> Date: 8/29/2008 8:17:09 AM
>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
>
> Subject: [pota] The Final Cornelius Journal/New Weekly Feature
>
>
>
> TGIF! The final entry of CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now available. Thank you to
> Chris Lawless, who came up with the original concept, and thanks to all of
> you for all your kind words of support during the past year.
>
> To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the Yahoo home page or
> use this link: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/files/ CJ.htm
>
> And now to introduce the Group's new weekly feature (drum roll please):
>
> This comes to us courtesy of the great Dave Ballard, THE ILLUSTRATED MONKEY
> PLANET. This is a Hungarian comic adaption of Pierre Boulle's original novel
> Dave has replaced Hungarian text with English and each page is accompanied
> by related passages from Boulle's novel. Each new page of the comic will be
> available every Friday.
>
> To read the first page use this link: http://movies. groups.yahoo
> com/group/pota/ files/MPC. htm
>
> Finally, this Sunday marks the 10th Anniversary of the founding of this
> Group by Dave Pasco. To celebrate, come back tomorrow for a special
> Anniversary LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER (and some other surprises) as well as
> on Sunday for...well you'll just have to wait until Sunday to find out.
>
> Have a great day everyone!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> The Group Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare
> Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
>
> POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
>
> Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
>
> The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members.
>
> The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.
>
> The Photos Section - POTA pics contributed by members.
>

>>Why keep hoarding away these things instead of sharing them with

>>I was responsible for the initial discovery of the BENEATH NATO

>>A very good idea--or, perhaps, someone could send Fox the file

>
> Well put John, as I've also found the "mine mine mine" approach

> to apes fans. Every single other fan I know shares what they have,
> regardless of how rare or common it is. But this "I have it, but I

> want anyone else to have it" mentality is so beyond selfish. He's

> got an audio recording of Ted Post watching and commenting on

> you, I, or anyone else had something like that it would have been

> website AGES ago.
>
> BTW, since we're making claims here, I was the one who found the

> print of BENEATH that was shown in NYC last week with the correct

> track. :-)
>
>
> Chris L.
>
>
>
> "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> >>Why keep hoarding away these things instead of sharing them with

> few of us out here who would truly enjoy them? The few times I've
> had "Apes" material that didn't seem easily obtained, I couldn't

> it to Hunter fast enough for him to make it availible to everyone.
> Even if it was goofy stuff like the "Rerun Show", access to the
> 1974 "Musical trip" album or making the surplus of "Ape Glyph" T-
> shirts I won in a bulk Ebay auction up for grabs. I like knowing
> there are others out there who enjoy this franchise the way I do.

> you really get that much pleasure knowing "I have something you

> have"? <<
>
>
> "softparadeband" <softparadeband@...> wrote:
>
> >>I was responsible for the initial discovery of the BENEATH NATO

> and infact arranged and paid for it's transfer from the original

> film way back in 1985 (along with the then undiscovered MAKE UP

> and a host of other films, including the CONQUESt behind the scenes
> footage that was used in BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES).

> is actually on BETA tape. I let the "powers that be" at the BLU RAY
> production studio know I had the material, but they evidently do

> plan to utilize it on the set.What you see now on YOUTUBE

> are is 9th generation copies from a VHS version I offered at the

> to select APES afficianados who were never supposed to recirculate

>

I was responsible for the initial discovery of the BENEATH NATO film
and infact arranged and paid for it's transfer from the original 16mm
film way back in 1985 (along with the then undiscovered MAKE UP TEST
and a host of other films, including the CONQUESt behind the scenes
footage that was used in BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES). The "master"
is actually on BETA tape. I let the "powers that be" at the BLU RAY
production studio know I had the material, but they evidently do not
plan to utilize it on the set.What you see now on YOUTUBE (evidently)
are is 9th generation copies from a VHS version I offered at the time
to select APES afficianados who were never supposed to recirculate it.--
Joe Russo

The question then is "Where is the original 16mm print you found?"  But, evidently, Fox doesn't care squat about it.

There's other things that evidently aren't going to be included that I'm much more disappointed with, that being things like radio spots and TV commercials, and those mysterious "Dick Strout 'Radio Interviews'" mentioned in the PLANET pressbook.

The guy at Fox said that this was the first time the POTA films were being taken seriously by Fox Home Video, but it doesn't seem to me they're that serious.

How about commentary tracks for all the films?!?

-- Rory

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I'm not even sure how this runaway chimp bit will work in CONQUEST... Will they how him get killed by the police at night and then suddenly cut to the opening we already know, that of the apes being trained? I hope not! Hopefully it's cut together in a better way than that...

It'll be whatever it is, which reminds me....

I haven't thought to mention this before, but we should be prepared for a print that might not look all that great.  I really have to wonder if Fox has spent much time doing any "restoration" of this print that's apparently just been in storage all this time.  Fox found a complete "Roadshow" 70mm print of THE SAND PEBBLES, and included it on a two-disc DVD edition last year, BUT the print was very red and faded, and looked bad enough so that it wasn't included on the Blu-ray version.

So anyway, get ready for a print of the preview version of CONQUEST that isn't going to look as good as the "Theatrical Version," but hopefully I could be wrong.  We'll see.


-- Rory

 

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I was responsible for the initial discovery of the BENEATH NATO
film
> and infact arranged and paid for it's transfer from the original
16mm
> film way back in 1985 (along with the then undiscovered MAKE UP
TEST
> and a host of other films, including the CONQUESt behind the scenes
> footage that was used in BEHIND THE PLANET OF THE APES).
The "master"
> is actually on BETA tape. I let the "powers that be" at the BLU RAY
> production studio know I had the material, but they evidently do
not
> plan to utilize it on the set.What you see now on YOUTUBE
(evidently)
> are is 9th generation copies from a VHS version I offered at the
time
> to select APES afficianados who were never supposed to recirculate
it.--
> Joe Russo
>
>
> The question then is "Where is the original 16mm print you found?"?
But, evidently, Fox doesn't care squat about it.
>
> There's other things that evidently aren't going to be included
that I'm much more disappointed with, that being things like radio
spots and TV commercials, and those mysterious "Dick Strout 'Radio
Interviews'" mentioned in the PLANET pressbook.
>
> The guy at Fox said that this was the first time the POTA films
were being taken seriously by Fox Home Video, but it doesn't seem to
me they're that serious.
>
> How about commentary tracks for all the films?!?
>
> -- Rory
>

>
> I know I may sound like a loser, but... I just went to the thrift

>
> Jeff B
>