Yahoo! pota group — Messages 63696–63800

Dates: 2011-05-21 through 2011-06-01

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Prev   63696 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Educational Galen
Group: pota Message: 63697 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Re: Anniversary Reminder
Group: pota Message: 63698 From: James Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: FW: happy 40th anniversary
Group: pota Message: 63699 From: James Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63700 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Schaffner's "Papillon" on blu-ray
Group: pota Message: 63701 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Escape about to disappear?
Group: pota Message: 63702 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Re: Escape about to disappear?
Group: pota Message: 63703 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Re: Escape about to disappear?
Group: pota Message: 63704 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: OT: Fox turning over a new leaf?
Group: pota Message: 63705 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63706 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63707 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63708 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63709 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63710 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: You say you want a prevolution?
Group: pota Message: 63711 From: gort65 Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63712 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63713 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63714 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63715 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63716 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63717 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: You say you want a prevolution?
Group: pota Message: 63718 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Fox turning over a new leaf?
Group: pota Message: 63719 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63720 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63721 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63723 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63724 From: James Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63725 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Beneath 45
Group: pota Message: 63726 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Conspirace set for July 25th!
Group: pota Message: 63727 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63728 From: johnmermigas Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Beneath 45
Group: pota Message: 63729 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63730 From: rassmguy Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
Group: pota Message: 63731 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63732 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton
Group: pota Message: 63733 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 5/24/2011
Subject: Re: getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton
Group: pota Message: 63734 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/24/2011
Subject: Re: getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton
Group: pota Message: 63735 From: Dario Sciola Date: 5/24/2011
Subject: Re: Conspirace set for July 25th!
Group: pota Message: 63736 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/24/2011
Subject: Re: getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton
Group: pota Message: 63738 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Jerry Goldsmith tribute concert on CD and DVD
Group: pota Message: 63739 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Re: Jerry Goldsmith tribute concert on CD and DVD
Group: pota Message: 63740 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 63741 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63742 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63743 From: James Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63744 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
Group: pota Message: 63745 From: gort65 Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
Group: pota Message: 63746 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 63747 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
Group: pota Message: 63748 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 63749 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
Group: pota Message: 63750 From: James Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63751 From: rassmguy Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
Group: pota Message: 63752 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63753 From: rassmguy Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #2
Group: pota Message: 63754 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #2
Group: pota Message: 63755 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
Group: pota Message: 63756 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
Group: pota Message: 63757 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
Group: pota Message: 63758 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63759 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
Group: pota Message: 63760 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: The Mendez Dynasty
Group: pota Message: 63761 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
Group: pota Message: 63762 From: James Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63763 From: rassmguy Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
Group: pota Message: 63764 From: Dario Sciola Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
Group: pota Message: 63765 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/28/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
Group: pota Message: 63766 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/28/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
Group: pota Message: 63767 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/28/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
Group: pota Message: 63769 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/28/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 63770 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 5/29/2011
Subject: Breaking Point
Group: pota Message: 63771 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 5/29/2011
Subject: Site Stats
Group: pota Message: 63772 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/29/2011
Subject: Re: Breaking Point
Group: pota Message: 63776 From: Sherri Bragg Date: 5/29/2011
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 63777 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/29/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 63778 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: UK Apes Ads from 1974
Group: pota Message: 63779 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: The World of Horror 01 (1974)
Group: pota Message: 63780 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63781 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975)
Group: pota Message: 63782 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 63783 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 63784 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: Re: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975) [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 63785 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: Re: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975) [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 63786 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: more box office predictions
Group: pota Message: 63787 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: Re: more box office predictions
Group: pota Message: 63788 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: happy birthday franklin schaffner
Group: pota Message: 63789 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: more box office predictions
Group: pota Message: 63790 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: BOOM! #2!!!
Group: pota Message: 63791 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975)
Group: pota Message: 63792 From: James Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63793 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
Group: pota Message: 63794 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
Group: pota Message: 63795 From: rassmguy Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: BOOM! #2!!!
Group: pota Message: 63796 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975)
Group: pota Message: 63797 From: peter_karsten63 Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: OT: Mystery Sci-Fi Film?
Group: pota Message: 63798 From: James Date: 6/1/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63799 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/1/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 63800 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/1/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time



Group: pota Message: 63696 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Educational Galen
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Eric Greene's notes to the TV Series soundtrack mention that Galen was used as part of a study on children's comprehension and memory.Do we have any of these documents anywhere? Do we have anybody who could contact the Uiniversity of Illinois to ask? Kass, I'm looking at you girl.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 63697 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Re: Anniversary Reminder
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Happy 40th Anniversary to Escape! To celebrate, the MARVEL ARCHIVE has been updated with the first part of Marvel's adaptation of "Escape from the Planet of the Apes" which begins with the destruction of the Earth. How ironic!

To access the ARCHIVE click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm.

For those who what to their final day on Earth watching the Earth be destroyed, the Escape Pre-title Reconstruction video is still available on the Group website: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/EPTR.htm, the mirror site: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/EPTR.htm and on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpxfnVIA5DM.

Have a great end of the world everyone. It's been a pleasure knowing all of you!

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Group: pota Message: 63698 From: James Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: FW: happy 40th anniversary
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From: William Burge
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:06 AM
Subject: happy 40th anniversary

 

dear group, here is a photo to celebrate the 40th anniversary of escape from the planet of the apes 1971. from william burge

 

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Group: pota Message: 63699 From: James Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

The End of the World, Hollywood-style
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Photo: Universal Pictures / SL The original 1968 movie "The Planet of the Apes" and sequels were set on a far-future Earth in which evolved, intelligent apes had supplanted humans as the dominant species following a nuclear war. ...
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10 of the most memorable twist endings in movies
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Throughout the film, Heston is hellbent on getting off the Planet of the Apes so he can go home to planet Earth. Surprise, surprise –- as it turns out that is impossible because he's actually been on Earth all along. Even if you haven't seen this movie ...
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http://nt0.ggpht.com/news/tbn/dMEGTwRXS1IJ
Guyism

 

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Group: pota Message: 63700 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Schaffner's "Papillon" on blu-ray
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Blu-ray.com has a review up too.  It doesn't come out until this Tuesday.  I can't wait to give it a look.
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, May 21, 2011 6:32 am
Subject: [pota] OT: Schaffner's "Papillon" on blu-ray

 
DVD Beaver has a review of one of Franklin Schaffner's best remembered film (I hear he also dabbled in science fiction). Rupert Wyatt, the director of "Rise of the POTA" is also known for a prison escape movie, "The Escapist", and in fact when asked to name his favorite prison escape movie on an "Escapist" DVD extra, he said "Papillon".

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film3/blu-ray_reviews54/papillon_blu-ray.htm
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Group: pota Message: 63701 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Escape about to disappear?
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On the 40th Anniversary of ESCAPE there's this important announcement....
 
I don't know if it's true (but it probably is), but someone posted on the Film Score Monthly message board that Varese Sarabande only has 100 copies left of their ESCAPE original soundtrack CD left.
 
 
So, if you haven't ordered yours yet, you better do it now.
 
And if you have, you may want to consider getting another as a future investment.  Why not?
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 63702 From: jessica rotich Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Re: Escape about to disappear?
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I just purchased this. Totally forgot all about it. Thanks for the reminder.
Jess.

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:31 PM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

On the 40th Anniversary of ESCAPE there's this important announcement....
I don't know if it's true (but it probably is), but someone posted on the Film Score Monthly message board that Varese Sarabande only has 100 copies left of their ESCAPE original soundtrack CD left.
So, if you haven't ordered yours yet, you better do it now.
And if you have, you may want to consider getting another as a future investment. Why not?
-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 63703 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: Re: Escape about to disappear?
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As you probably know the TV soundtrack sold out fast and now commands prices up to 250 bucks, crazy. Their seems to be a large fan base for the TV series interesting. Escape for the last few months on some web sites was going for almost as much as the TV series. People who knew they were going to sell out I guess tried to boost the price of the CD and cause a panic buying frenzy. At one point the Beneath CD had crazy prices...Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> On the 40th Anniversary of ESCAPE there's this important announcement....
>
> I don't know if it's true (but it probably is), but someone posted on the Film Score Monthly message board that Varese Sarabande only has 100 copies left of their ESCAPE original soundtrack CD left.
>
> http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=79196&forumID=1&archive=0
>
> So, if you haven't ordered yours yet, you better do it now.
>
> And if you have, you may want to consider getting another as a future investment. Why not?
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 63704 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/21/2011
Subject: OT: Fox turning over a new leaf?
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Well, today was a close one but the world didn't end, thanks to the mercy of God Almighty. But this should be a warning to each of us for we are all sinners.

Anyway, Fox apparently has shown it's new "X-Men" movie "First Class" around early because it's getting good comments as being a smart, serious, er, comic book movie. Fox has been a punching bag for their brain dead "tentpole" films, with charges of interference from studio executives. I think that's why people generally assume their movies will suck. Doesn't look to be the case this time (obviously Fox wouldn't show the film this early if they didn't think they had the goods).
So maybe this adds fuel to the fire of "Rise of the POTA" being what it's creators say it is, a smart serious tentpole? Has Fox turned over a new leaf (or at least tried it out)?

http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/articles/film/initial-x-men-first-class-reviews-appearing

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/first-reaction-x-men-first-class-offers-sleek-smart-superhero-thrills
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Group: pota Message: 63705 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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Basically, yes.  The hits support the flops.  And that ratio
is several to one and seems to get higher every year. And
a lot a wheels have to be greased in distribution.  Which is
why a lot of films are either direct to disc or shelved all together.
It's when a film goes to DVD that the real money is made. Look
at The Big Lebowski.  That flopped, but has gone on to be a classic.
When all is said and done, after everyone who's contract was over
reported and everyone else has been ripped off, there's hardly enough
money on the initial run of even a moderate hit to satiate the avarice
of average Hollywod Les Grossman types.  They want mega bucks!
 
 
In a message dated 5/19/2011 9:12:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:
What does a film have to make , a Billion dollars, c'mon now. I must be from another planet.....Nuts, John M.
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Group: pota Message: 63706 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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Like the T-Shirt says "I may be old but I saw all the cool bands".
I guess you could translate that to I saw all the cool movies on
the big screen.  I feel sorry for kids that won't bother with a
movie that's in Black & White.  They don't know what they're
missing.  But i can only hope that if the new flick rekindles
POTA interest they aren't turned off by Burton's before
they get to the original.  That would be a shame.
 
In a message dated 5/20/2011 7:41:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes:
when you hit 50years of age most of us have seen and experienced many things including the simple act of moviegoin.
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Group: pota Message: 63707 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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Speaking of Mediocre Matinee Movies POTA2001 was against
one of the many Jerrasic Park sequels.  My one fear is not the
CGI anymore.  I'm sure it will be cutting edge and it's not the
lead character.  Andy Serkis is the best in the business as
far as performance capture.  It's the supporting cast.  They
strike me a boring made for TV filler.  I hope I'm wrong.
But I get the feeling that the lead up to the pay off is
going to have them going to the snack bar & toilets.
 
 
 
In a message dated 5/20/2011 10:30:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
So far this summer is shaping up to be yet another mediocre Blockbuster non-
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Group: pota Message: 63708 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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John Lithgow is in it, Lord. "Buckaroo Bonzai"! And no Marky Mark.


From: LordTZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:31 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"





Speaking of Mediocre Matinee Movies POTA2001 was against
one of the many Jerrasic Park sequels. My one fear is not the
CGI anymore. I'm sure it will be cutting edge and it's not the
lead character. Andy Serkis is the best in the business as
far as performance capture. It's the supporting cast. They
strike me a boring made for TV filler. I hope I'm wrong.
But I get the feeling that the lead up to the pay off is
going to have them going to the snack bar & toilets.



In a message dated 5/20/2011 10:30:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
So far this summer is shaping up to be yet another mediocre Blockbuster non-
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Group: pota Message: 63709 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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I've been forgetting to say this, but what matter in terms of the boxoffice RISE will do isn't what opens against it on its opening weekend, but what opens the following weekend and the weekend following that.
 
For me, it's fairly obvious that RISE will win its opening weekend (The Fox publicity machine will see to that just as it did selling POTA2001 to an unsuspecting public), but if it's going to have legs, there can't be a movie the next week that cuts those legs off.
 
What's opening on the next two weekends after RISE?  I have no idea.  I'm sure Krueger will now look this up.  Let's examine what he finds and then let's really speculate knowledgeably on what RISE will do -- of course assuming that RISE is a very good movie (because that matters!), which we don't know -- yet.
 
-- Rory 



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 12:24 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"

 
John Lithgow is in it, Lord. "Buckaroo Bonzai"! And no Marky Mark.
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Group: pota Message: 63710 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: You say you want a prevolution?
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Here's the German "Rise" poster. Not much difference but of note to the completists.
I saw the "Rise" poster at a theater and it looked pretty good. The ape behind the words looked lenticular, kinda 3D, even though the movie won't be in 3D.

http://www.shockya.com/news/2011/05/22/new-german-poster-for-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/
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Group: pota Message: 63711 From: gort65 Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> John Lithgow is in it, Lord. "Buckaroo Bonzai"! And no Marky Mark.

Yes, generally a TV actor, even if a good, respectable one. He's been in some reasonable films, but never as main lead and hardly as main support. He was fairly good in Dexter, as well as some other stuff (he does a bit of theatre work, to his credit, but that's a different sort of acting), but he's not exactly what I'd call top film material. Thing is, Burton's film had some good and recognised film actors (Roth, Bonham Carter, Warner and Giamatti), but that didn't save it from not fulfilling its potential. Then again, having arguably not so talented or interesting actors doesn't mean that the coming film will be less for it, as there are many other factors to making a good film than how good your actors are or are not (talent helps, though).

Personally, I'm not too bothered by the actors that have been chosen for Rise and any perceived limitations, for I feel that they can, if given the right material, do justice. Good actors are just one ingredient, but there's plenty other things that can spoil the meal. Anyway, even good actors can do a bad job now and then, or can be directed wrongly, good acting edited out, having to follow a bad script, etc.

As for the topic, it does seem a crazy world that sees a profitable film as a loss, despite all the explanations as why that should be seen so.


Graham
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Group: pota Message: 63712 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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Summer is pretty much over by the time of "Rise". It will have to deal with the 2nd and 3rd weeks, respectively, of "Cowboys & Aliens" and "Capt. America". It opens against a body switch comedy starring the Green Lantern guy. And two weeks later it goes up against another Roddy remake, "Fright Night" and "Conan the Barbarian". It looks like smooth sailing if "Rise" has the goods.

http://www.thenumbers.com/movies/release.php


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:09 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"




I've been forgetting to say this, but what matter in terms of the boxoffice RISE will do isn't what opens against it on its opening weekend, but what opens the following weekend and the weekend following that.

For me, it's fairly obvious that RISE will win its opening weekend (The Fox publicity machine will see to that just as it did selling POTA2001 to an unsuspecting public), but if it's going to have legs, there can't be a movie the next week that cuts those legs off.

What's opening on the next two weekends after RISE? I have no idea. I'm sure Krueger will now look this up. Let's examine what he finds and then let's really speculate knowledgeably on what RISE will do -- of course assuming that RISE is a very good movie (because that matters!), which we don't know -- yet.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 63713 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/release.php


From: Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:46 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"


Summer is pretty much over by the time of "Rise". It will have to deal with the 2nd and 3rd weeks, respectively, of "Cowboys & Aliens" and "Capt. America". It opens against a body switch comedy starring the Green Lantern guy. And two weeks later it goes up against another Roddy remake, "Fright Night" and "Conan the Barbarian". It looks like smooth sailing if "Rise" has the goods.

http://www.thenumbers.com/movies/release.php


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 10:09 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"




I've been forgetting to say this, but what matter in terms of the boxoffice RISE will do isn't what opens against it on its opening weekend, but what opens the following weekend and the weekend following that.

For me, it's fairly obvious that RISE will win its opening weekend (The Fox publicity machine will see to that just as it did selling POTA2001 to an unsuspecting public), but if it's going to have legs, there can't be a movie the next week that cuts those legs off.

What's opening on the next two weekends after RISE? I have no idea. I'm sure Krueger will now look this up. Let's examine what he finds and then let's really speculate knowledgeably on what RISE will do -- of course assuming that RISE is a very good movie (because that matters!), which we don't know -- yet.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 63714 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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I hate predictions.
 
Al


From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 2:48:21 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"

 

http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/release.php

From: Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:46 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"

Summer is pretty much over by the time of "Rise". It will have to deal with the 2nd and 3rd weeks, respectively, of "Cowboys & Aliens" and "Capt. America". It opens against a body switch comedy starring the Green Lantern guy. And two weeks later it goes up against another Roddy remake, "Fright Night" and "Conan the Barbarian". It looks like smooth sailing if "Rise" has the goods.

http://www.thenumbers.com/movies/release.php

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Group: pota Message: 63715 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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Case in point: "Pirates" made $ 90 million this weekend in the U.S. but is considered a disappointment because they were expecting $ 100 million and based on what the others did. It's made almost $ 400 million worldwide after opening just a few days ago.


From: gort65
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:45 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"





--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> John Lithgow is in it, Lord. "Buckaroo Bonzai"! And no Marky Mark.

Yes, generally a TV actor, even if a good, respectable one. He's been in some reasonable films, but never as main lead and hardly as main support. He was fairly good in Dexter, as well as some other stuff (he does a bit of theatre work, to his credit, but that's a different sort of acting), but he's not exactly what I'd call top film material. Thing is, Burton's film had some good and recognised film actors (Roth, Bonham Carter, Warner and Giamatti), but that didn't save it from not fulfilling its potential. Then again, having arguably not so talented or interesting actors doesn't mean that the coming film will be less for it, as there are many other factors to making a good film than how good your actors are or are not (talent helps, though).

Personally, I'm not too bothered by the actors that have been chosen for Rise and any perceived limitations, for I feel that they can, if given the right material, do justice. Good actors are just one ingredient, but there's plenty other things that can spoil the meal. Anyway, even good actors can do a bad job now and then, or can be directed wrongly, good acting edited out, having to follow a bad script, etc.

As for the topic, it does seem a crazy world that sees a profitable film as a loss, despite all the explanations as why that should be seen so.

Graham
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Group: pota Message: 63716 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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I know, DVD sales are now part of the equation...The 2001 Apes I thought made about,A guess, 20-30 million in video sales. So we are at 400 million almost and still not good enough. I have my own financial problems and I am proud to say that none of my own making, health benefits, taxes, cost of living, I thought we were a democracy at heart and not a capatilist country, but a country that can thrive on capitalism because of our democracy. Nothing is mentioned in our historical documents about capitalism. This BS about supporting rich institutions so that maybe one day we can get rich is such a political ploy that goes back to our founding fathers that you would think we would have learned our lessons. You just sit their and the world caves in on you and I should worry about Fox who is part of the problem. Sorry for the threadcapping but this is so rediculous to me...John M. Im off the soap box now,sorry......

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Basically, yes. The hits support the flops. And that ratio
> is several to one and seems to get higher every year. And
> a lot a wheels have to be greased in distribution. Which is
> why a lot of films are either direct to disc or shelved all together.
> It's when a film goes to DVD that the real money is made. Look
> at The Big Lebowski. That flopped, but has gone on to be a classic.
> When all is said and done, after everyone who's contract was over
> reported and everyone else has been ripped off, there's hardly enough
> money on the initial run of even a moderate hit to satiate the avarice
> of average Hollywod Les Grossman types. They want mega bucks!
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/19/2011 9:12:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> jessicarotich@... writes:
>
> What does a film have to make , a Billion dollars, c'mon now. I must be
> from another planet.....Nuts, John M.
>
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Group: pota Message: 63717 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: You say you want a prevolution?
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As usual, over seas poster and publicity seem better or more esoteric and cooler for lack of a better word to me, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's the German "Rise" poster. Not much difference but of note to the completists.
> I saw the "Rise" poster at a theater and it looked pretty good. The ape behind the words looked lenticular, kinda 3D, even though the movie won't be in 3D.
>
> http://www.shockya.com/news/2011/05/22/new-german-poster-for-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/
>
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Group: pota Message: 63718 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Fox turning over a new leaf?
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Well, today was a close one but the world didn't end, thanks to the mercy of God Almighty. But this should be a warning to each of us for we are all sinners.
>
>
Man, I hope your not serious Jeff....
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Group: pota Message: 63719 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/22/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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Yeah, a good sign.  I just hope is no Marky Mark. I hope
Franco doesn't take his place as the wooden man. Pinto
seems to be the Warren/Harrison of this incarnation. I
like Lithgow in some stuff -- not so much in others. And
don't like the little In joke like using the names.  That
never works for me.  I just hope they don't say, "Take
your stinking paws off me you damned dirty ape!"
 
 
In a message dated 5/22/2011 11:24:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
John Lithgow is in it, Lord. "Buckaroo Bonzai"! And no Marky Mark.
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Group: pota Message: 63720 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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Everything I've seen about Cowboys and Aliens looks dreadful.A newspaper here did a 'summer preview' thing this weekend and listed everything bar Apes.Rise has slipped off the radar after the date re-jigs and I hope Fox has the savvy to really build on the great reception the trailer had.A German poster and a 'vanilla' web site don't exactly inspire interest....or confidence.Come on Fox--pull your finger out!!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Summer is pretty much over by the time of "Rise". It will have to deal with the 2nd and 3rd weeks, respectively, of "Cowboys & Aliens" and "Capt. America". It opens against a body switch comedy starring the Green Lantern guy. And two weeks later it goes up against another Roddy remake, "Fright Night" and "Conan the Barbarian". It looks like smooth sailing if "Rise" has the goods.
>
> http://www.thenumbers.com/movies/release.php
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 63721 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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Summer is pretty much over by the time of "Rise". It will have to deal with the 2nd and 3rd weeks, respectively, of "Cowboys & Aliens" and "Capt. America". It opens against a body switch comedy starring the Green Lantern guy. And two weeks later it goes up against another Roddy remake, "Fright Night" and "Conan the Barbarian". It looks like smooth sailing if "Rise" has the goods.



Yeah, I'd say Fox knew what they were doing moving this back to August.  Now, the thing simply has to be better than mediocre, since mediocre seems to be the norm these days, but RISE looks as if it could be the unique movie this summer.
 
PIRATES made $90 Mill this weekend and has gotten dismal reviews.  Let's see how big the drop off is next weekend.
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 63722 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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I thought we were a democracy at heart and not a capitalist country, but a country that can thrive on capitalism because of our democracy. Nothing is mentioned in our historical documents about capitalism. This BS about supporting rich institutions so that maybe one day we can get rich is such a political ploy that goes back to our founding fathers that you would think we would have learned our lessons. You just sit their and the world caves in on you and I should worry about Fox who is part of the problem. Sorry for the thread capping but this is so ridiculous to me...John M. I'm off the soap box now,sorry......


We live in a "representational democracy" not a pure democracy, and our Founding Father, who were the elites of their time -- wealthy land and slave owners -- founded this country in part to make it a better place for capitalism.  This country has always been about acquiring wealth, but that's not what's run us nearly into the ground.  It's the love of materialism that has.  Look at how we're raised from early childhood to want, want, want.  If mankind keeps it up, we'll be extinct in a couple hundred years.


-----Original Message-----
From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 6:28 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"

 
I know, DVD sales are now part of the equation...The 2001 Apes I thought made about,A guess, 20-30 million in video sales. So we are at 400 million almost and still not good enough. I have my own financial problems and I am proud to say that none of my own making, health benefits, taxes, cost of living, I thought we were a democracy at heart and not a capatilist country, but a country that can thrive on capitalism because of our democracy. Nothing is mentioned in our historical documents about capitalism. This BS about supporting rich institutions so that maybe one day we can get rich is such a political ploy that goes back to our founding fathers that you would think we would have learned our lessons. You just sit their and the world caves in on you and I should worry about Fox who is part of the problem. Sorry for the threadcapping but this is so rediculous to me...John M. Im off the soap box now,sorry......

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Group: pota Message: 63723 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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Everything I've seen about Cowboys and Aliens looks dreadful.A newspaper here did a 'summer preview' thing this weekend and listed everything bar Apes.Rise has slipped off the radar after the date re-jigs and I hope Fox has the savvy to really build on the great reception the trailer had.A German poster and a 'vanilla' web site don't exactly inspire interest....or confidence.Come on Fox--pull your finger out!!!! John, Scrolls.


Right now, Fox has the new X-MEN movie to promote.  Don't worry in two or three weeks I expect APES to start getting the heavy promotion treatment.


-----Original Message-----
From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 10:06 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"

 
Everything I've seen about Cowboys and Aliens looks dreadful.A newspaper here did a 'summer preview' thing this weekend and listed everything bar Apes.Rise has slipped off the radar after the date re-jigs and I hope Fox has the savvy to really build on the great reception the trailer had.A German poster and a 'vanilla' web site don't exactly inspire interest....or confidence.Come on Fox--pull your finger out!!!! John, Scrolls.

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Group: pota Message: 63724 From: James Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Film predictions: Top, bottom five movies for the summer
Penfield Post
Release date: Friday, July 29 Most movies released in August never seem to perform well, and there already has been so many remakes of “The Planet of the Apes” that this film seems a tad unnecessary. Release date: Friday, August 5 5. ...
See all stories on this topic »

Archaia to Publish "Planet of the Apes" Illustrated Prose Novels ...
Archaia Entertainment has set July 25th for the release of Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes, its first illustrated novel, through its new book trade distributor Publishers Group West (PGW). Written by celebrated author, artist, ...
Comic Book Resources - http://www.comicbookresources.com/

 

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Group: pota Message: 63725 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Beneath 45
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Is it posted anywhere?


From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 10:53 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Beneath 45

 
Its the funky version with half of the Wrecking Crew as musicians. The backing musicians to most of the 60s hits from Spector and so many others. Brian Wilson used them for most of the 60s records including "Pet Sounds"...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shrstrategygames" <shrstrategygames@...> wrote:
>
> Tim/apefan: "I just received a nicely preserved 45 record of Leonard Rosenman's 'March of the Apes' from the Beneath soundtrack released as a promotion copy (not for sale!) on Amos records. Was just wondering if anyone has heard this....I don't see a track called 'March of the Apes' on the CD release....and my LP is framed so I can't see the back.... Is this just 'Off to War' from the soundtrack? It's 2:55 minutes."
>
> Would this happen to be the actual Apes march music from the audio soundtrack of the movie?
>
> After all, the march music on the original 1970 LP soundtrack to "Beneath" had a jazzed-up version of the Apes march that makes 'em sound more like they're about to invade Las Vegas. (And if memory serves, that same LP had a jazzed-up the Mutants' musical adoration of the Alpha-Omega Bomb as well. I had had no idea that movie soundtracks from that far back had attempted Meco-like pop versions of select movie soundtracks.)
>
> So you'd be lucky if that 45 RPM record had the version of the Apes March from the actual movie audiotrack.
>



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Group: pota Message: 63726 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Conspirace set for July 25th!
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or so they're saying anyway.....!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=32446
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Group: pota Message: 63727 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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OK, so July 25th for the "Conspiracy" novel.  Finally!  I'm actually looking forward to this -- just hope it's good.
 
That other article about film boxoffice predictions only shows that the author is a drip!




-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 11:40 am
Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 
FYI
 
Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
 
Film predictions: Top, bottom five movies for the summer
Penfield Post
Release date: Friday, July 29 Most movies released in August never seem to perform well, and there already has been so many remakes of "The Planet of the Apes" that this film seems a tad unnecessary. Release date: Friday, August 5 5. ...
See all stories on this topic »
Archaia to Publish "Planet of the Apes" Illustrated Prose Novels ...
Archaia Entertainment has set July 25th for the release of Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes, its first illustrated novel, through its new book trade distributor Publishers Group West (PGW). Written by celebrated author, artist, ...
Comic Book Resources - http://www.comicbookresources.com/
 
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Group: pota Message: 63728 From: johnmermigas Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: Beneath 45
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For more info other than the 45 picture on this website and the radio playlist with the website on post number 63686 I cant find it anymore. Years ago GEMM was a website that had a person selling one for about 50 dollars and a mention in a Billboard book that had volumes of listings in about five different books about every LP and 45 ever for sale. Anywhere else right now I cant remember. Sorry Tim, I'll figure something out, take care, JohnM.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Is it posted anywhere?
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 63729 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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  I love how people keep saying a new POTA is "unnecessary". Meanwhile there's 4 comic book movies coming out. I'd say the way they're doing it, POTA is maybe the most "original" of the big summer movies (with the possible exception of "Cowboys and Aliens"). If Burton had done the job right 10 years ago then maybe a new POTA wouldn't be "necessary".

From: James
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 8:38 AM
Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

FYI

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

Film predictions: Top, bottom five movies for the summer
Penfield Post
Release date: Friday, July 29 Most movies released in August never seem to perform well, and there already has been so many remakes of “The Planet of the Apes” that this film seems a tad unnecessary. Release date: Friday, August 5 5. ...
See all stories on this topic »

Archaia to Publish "Planet of the Apes" Illustrated Prose Novels ...
Archaia Entertainment has set July 25th for the release of Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes, its first illustrated novel, through its new book trade distributor Publishers Group West (PGW). Written by celebrated author, artist, ...
Comic Book Resources - http://www.comicbookresources.com/

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Group: pota Message: 63730 From: rassmguy Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #1
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Hi, folks.

I've been invited to review BOOM!'s comic series for Pop Culture Zoo, and thought I'd send along the URL of the first review, which just went live.

http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/new-planet-of-the-apes-comic-off-to-a-booming-start/

Enjoy!
Rich
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Group: pota Message: 63731 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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*** If they had "done it right" ten years ago, wouldn't we still be getting
sequels from that enitity? ***





In a message dated 5/23/2011 2:46:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:


> If Burton had done the job right 10 years ago then maybe a new POTA
> wouldn't be "necessary".
>
>
>
>

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Group: pota Message: 63732 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/23/2011
Subject: getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton
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"Harry Potter" menace Tom Felton was at the premiere of "Hangover 2" and chatted briefly about "Rise of the POTA" in a video interview. Doesn't mention if Caesar puts him over his knee and teaches him some manners.

http://movies.about.com/od/harrypotter8/l/bl-tom-felton-interview-harry-potter.htm
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Group: pota Message: 63733 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 5/24/2011
Subject: Re: getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton
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Tom seems a bit nervous when asked about 'Apes'.
Is it because he thinks the movie is bad? Or he's afraid to reveal anything secret about the film?
 
If you ask me, I think the ending we read in the bootleg script wasn't the same ending Fox put down on film.
There's going to some type of major shock ending to this film. I have a funny feeling what it is but I won't say.
 
Al

 


From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 23, 2011 8:11:14 PM
Subject: [pota] getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton

 

"Harry Potter" menace Tom Felton was at the premiere of "Hangover 2" and chatted briefly about "Rise of the POTA" in a video interview. Doesn't mention if Caesar puts him over his knee and teaches him some manners.

http://movies.about.com/od/harrypotter8/l/bl-tom-felton-interview-harry-potter.htm

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Group: pota Message: 63734 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/24/2011
Subject: Re: getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton
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Well, if he thinks it's a bad movie he sure is a good liar. He's been praising it more than anyone. I think Fox is coming down on the actors for revealing too much. He wouldn't even say if he's a bad guy and he did before.
Hopefully the ending is better than in that script. It just kind of ended. The new ending is: Caesar walks out of a movie theater showing POTA2001 and falls to his knees screaming, "You MANIACS!!".


From: Alex Ruiz
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 1:53 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton




Tom seems a bit nervous when asked about 'Apes'.
Is it because he thinks the movie is bad? Or he's afraid to reveal anything secret about the film?

If you ask me, I think the ending we read in the bootleg script wasn't the same ending Fox put down on film.
There's going to some type of major shock ending to this film. I have a funny feeling what it is but I won't say.

Al
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Group: pota Message: 63735 From: Dario Sciola Date: 5/24/2011
Subject: Re: Conspirace set for July 25th!
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Interesting art.

Davinci-like flying machines? Definitely non-cannon based on Taylor's
attempts at explaining flight to Zira and Cornelius unless the story
goes on to describe how apes begin to explore flight theory there and then.

The oversized canine teeth on the Gorillas isn't exactly accurate, but I
kinda like them for the menacing effect.

Looks like an Ape chimp lies dead that could figure prominently in the
story along with the chemical mixing Ourang. And we'll have a blonde
human that may have survived the trip this time.

I really like the vibrancy of the Steranko art (cannon or not!).

Does anyone know if this will be available via Diamond distributing as a
normal comic and that can be ordered like a comic in comic shops? I hope so.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
Date: Monday, May 23, 2011 12:03 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Conspirace set for July 25th!

> or so they're saying anyway.....!
>
>
> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=32446
>
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Group: pota Message: 63736 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/24/2011
Subject: Re: getting a "Rise" out of Tom Felton
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I think the ending is Caesars uttering his first words. Unless its known already or im way off base because I havent read any script thats what I bet it is. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Well, if he thinks it's a bad movie he sure is a good liar. He's been praising it more than anyone. I think Fox is coming down on the actors for revealing too much. He wouldn't even say if he's a bad guy and he did before.
> Hopefully the ending is better than in that script. It just kind of ended. The new ending is: Caesar walks out of a movie theater showing POTA2001 and falls to his knees screaming, "You MANIACS!!".
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 63738 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Jerry Goldsmith tribute concert on CD and DVD
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 Varese Sarabande is offering a limited edition concert on CD and DVD that was a tribute to Jerry Goldsmith. Ask me to name some of the films Goldsmith scored and I can't think of any. But I hear he was good. OK, alright! He did POTA.  : )
 
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Group: pota Message: 63739 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Re: Jerry Goldsmith tribute concert on CD and DVD
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Really grateful for that link, Jeff----I've just now ordered my copy!!!John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Varese Sarabande is offering a limited edition concert on CD and DVD that was a tribute to Jerry Goldsmith. Ask me to name some of the films Goldsmith scored and I can't think of any. But I hear he was good. OK, alright! He did POTA. : )
>
> http://www.varesesarabande.com/servlet/the-810/Jerry-Goldsmith-80th-Birthday/Detail
>
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Subject: New file uploaded to pota
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Group: pota Message: 63741 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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I'm still a bit disappointed that the paper media--sci fi and movie mags--might not be up to speed on Rise of the PotA.Green Lantern was the cover for last month's SFX Mag and this month's Total Film---there's only really one month left with these mags for,say, a nice Ape face cover and I don't think it will happen, dammit.Mark Strong's pink look in Green Lantern made me laugh out loud---not the looked for reaction.Maybe I'm biased--I always get bitchy about 'other' movies when Apes is in town.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Summer is pretty much over by the time of "Rise". It will have to deal with the 2nd and 3rd weeks, respectively, of "Cowboys & Aliens" and "Capt. America". It opens against a body switch comedy starring the Green Lantern guy. And two weeks later it goes up against another Roddy remake, "Fright Night" and "Conan the Barbarian". It looks like smooth sailing if "Rise" has the goods.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, I'd say Fox knew what they were doing moving this back to August. Now, the thing simply has to be better than mediocre, since mediocre seems to be the norm these days, but RISE looks as if it could be the unique movie this summer.
>
> PIRATES made $90 Mill this weekend and has gotten dismal reviews. Let's see how big the drop off is next weekend.
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 63742 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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I just think there's low expectations for "Rise", whether it's because of Fox or because of Burton or because of the subject matter. Hopefully "Rise" will be the sleeper of the summer and then people will say, "I didn't see that coming!". There's basically 2 months to go.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:43 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"



I'm still a bit disappointed that the paper media--sci fi and movie mags--might not be up to speed on Rise of the PotA.Green Lantern was the cover for last month's SFX Mag and this month's Total Film---there's only really one month left with these mags for,say, a nice Ape face cover and I don't think it will happen, dammit.Mark Strong's pink look in Green Lantern made me laugh out loud---not the looked for reaction.Maybe I'm biased--I always get bitchy about 'other' movies when Apes is in town.John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 63743 From: James Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

The Badass Hall Of Fame: Caesar | Badass Digest
By Devin Faraci
To understand the life of Caesar you have to know something about the chronology of the Planet of the Apes movies. By now everybody knows the twist ending of the first film, where Charlton Heston discovers he was on Earth all along, ...
Badass Digest - http://www.badassdigest.com/

 

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Group: pota Message: 63744 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/25/2011
Subject: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Sad news about Estella Warren this morning.
>
> http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/showbiz/hollywood/actress-estella-warren-arrested-dui-assault-escape-168
>
>
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Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Group: pota Message: 63748 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: Boxofficemojo predicts $205 million foreign for "Apes"
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The covers for most magazines will probably now be 'set'.I'm not sure whether magazines matter much today--SFX has a circulation of maybe 100k---that's a narrow audience.Apes possibly sells itself anyway.I just like mags with Apes covers! I think Rise will do better than that projection--I'm hoping that it will be a bit like X-Men, a fairly modest, thoughtful first episode with bigger things to follow--but without a totally crap third film, obviously! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I just think there's low expectations for "Rise", whether it's because of Fox or because of Burton or because of the subject matter. Hopefully "Rise" will be the sleeper of the summer and then people will say, "I didn't see that coming!". There's basically 2 months to go.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 63749 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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I'll resist the temptation that, after Burton's Apes, she should be able to handle car crashes.That would be a crass and insensitive thing to say.At least the cops didn't try to brand her (I assume?).It's a pity--as Noel Cowerd once observed about a young actress--'she has the full range of acting ability, from A to B.'John,Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> Sad news about Estella Warren this morning.
>
> http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/showbiz/hollywood/actress-estella-warren-arrested-dui-assault-escape-168
>
>
Group: pota Message: 63750 From: James Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Planet of the Apes #2 Review
IGN
by Miguel Perez I can't get over the fact that I'm enjoying a Planet of the Apes book. As I mentioned last month, it has nothing to do with any sort of connection I have with the property. At its core, this is shaping up to be an intriguing mystery ...
See all stories on this topic »

First look: FANGORIA #305 cover and contents!
FANGORIA
We also preview THE THEATRE BIZARRE with director Richard Stanley and composer Simon Boswell, chat up the directors of the African zombie epic THE DEAD, the holiday-horror opus SAINT and RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES—with a look at the classic APES' ...
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Group: pota Message: 63751 From: rassmguy Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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LOL. I'd never heard that comment, but that's great. Yeah, she may be a wonder to behold, but as an actress... bleh.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I'll resist the temptation that, after Burton's Apes, she should be able to handle car crashes.That would be a crass and insensitive thing to say.At least the cops didn't try to brand her (I assume?).It's a pity--as Noel Cowerd once observed about a young actress--'she has the full range of acting ability, from A to B.'John,Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 63752 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Well one of the first magazines, Fangoria has the Rise article,cant tell if its on the cover , and an interview with Ted Post of all thing, here we go! John M>>>>Relax..

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
>
>
>
>
> Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://comics.ign.com/articles/117/1170854
> p1.htmlct=ga&cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoATAAOABA3-P57gRIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=OxJ-Pt4QuB
> M&usg=AFQjCNHgpnJM5L0SwPfCkF3WjIcZ8mjgOw> Planet of the Apes #2 Review
> IGN
> by Miguel Perez I can't get over the fact that I'm enjoying a Planet of the
> Apes book. As I mentioned last month, it has nothing to do with any sort of
> connection I have with the property. At its core, this is shaping up to be
> an intriguing mystery ...
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://news.google.com/news/story%3Fncl%3D
> http://comics.ign.com/articles/117/1170854p1.html26hl%3Den%26geo%3Dus&ct=ga
> &cad=CAcQAhgAIAAoBjAAOABA3-P57gRIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=OxJ-Pt4QuBM&usg=AFQjCNE
> 0YRewci8lkob-6vqWt2zrithDqg> See all stories on this topic >
>
>
>
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://www.fangoria.com/index.php%3Foption
> %3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D4599:first-look-fangoria-305-cover-an
> d-contents%26catid%3D60:announcements-contests%26Itemid%3D168&ct=ga&cad=CAcQ
> AhgAIAAoATACOAJA3-P57gRIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=OxJ-Pt4QuBM&usg=AFQjCNGwk1vD8SsF
> F5mXGbEF2Exer9MbeQ> First look: FANGORIA #305 cover and contents!
> FANGORIA
> We also preview THE THEATRE BIZARRE with director Richard Stanley and
> composer Simon Boswell, chat up the directors of the African zombie epic THE
> DEAD, the holiday-horror opus SAINT and RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES-with
> a look at the classic APES' ...
>
> <http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://news.google.com/news/story%3Fncl%3D
> http://www.fangoria.com/index.php%253Foption%253Dcom_content%2526view%253Dar
> ticle%2526id%253D4599:first-look-fangoria-305-cover-and-contents%2526catid%2
> 53D60:announcements-contests%2526Itemid%253D168%26hl%3Den%26geo%3Dus&ct=ga&c
> ad=CAcQAhgAIAAoBjACOAJA3-P57gRIAVAAWABiBWVuLVVT&cd=OxJ-Pt4QuBM&usg=AFQjCNHTJ
> BIs1_4LDmnLGw51I9XtPKb0Bw> See all stories on this topic >
>
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Group: pota Message: 63753 From: rassmguy Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #2
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Hola! My review of issue #2 is no online at Pop Culture Zoo.

http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/in-the-long-war-planet-of-the-apes-shakes-its-spear/
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Group: pota Message: 63754 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: My belated review of BOOM!'s issue #2
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Off to read the review by the wisest ape of ALL
;-)

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:10 AM, rassmguy <handleyr@...> wrote:

Hola! My review of issue #2 is no online at Pop Culture Zoo.

http://popculturezoo.com/2011/05/in-the-long-war-planet-of-the-apes-shakes-its-spear/




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Group: pota Message: 63755 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
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For some reason it's called Trailer D. Runs 2 minutes, 10 seconds. Probably it will hit next week with "X-Men" but I guess it could hit any time on the net.

http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx
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Group: pota Message: 63756 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/26/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
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For some reason it's called Trailer D. Runs 2 minutes, 10 seconds. Probably it will hit next week with "X-Men" but I guess it could hit any time on the net.

http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx


It indicates that RISE will be PG.  So much for seeing chimps bite off human faces.
 


 
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Group: pota Message: 63757 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
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I doubt it's rated yet. There's a "Dragon Tattoo" trailer rated PG and one rated "R" so it has something to do with the Canadian rating system for trailers. The producer said "Rise" will probably be a strong PG-13 (still no face biting).


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:21 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad






For some reason it's called Trailer D. Runs 2 minutes, 10 seconds. Probably it will hit next week with "X-Men" but I guess it could hit any time on the net.

http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx




It indicates that RISE will be PG. So much for seeing chimps bite off human faces.
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Group: pota Message: 63758 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Issue #305, I think.There DOES seem to be a pic of Apes on the cover, but it's only a box, not the whole cover.There also seems to be an additional article on Apes merchandising.It begins!!!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> Well one of the first magazines, Fangoria has the Rise article,cant tell if its on the cover , and an interview with Ted Post of all thing, here we go! John M>>>>Relax..
>
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Group: pota Message: 63759 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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Indeed.To quote Noel again, when he was asked about another actress, 'There's simply no beginning to her talents!'.And Estella was STILL better than Marky Whispering Mumbles Mark.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> LOL. I'd never heard that comment, but that's great. Yeah, she may be a wonder to behold, but as an actress... bleh.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > I'll resist the temptation that, after Burton's Apes, she should be able to handle car crashes.That would be a crass and insensitive thing to say.At least the cops didn't try to brand her (I assume?).It's a pity--as Noel Cowerd once observed about a young actress--'she has the full range of acting ability, from A to B.'John,Scrolls.
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 63760 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: The Mendez Dynasty
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Well, we got through another week without the world ending, despite predictions that is would. So this week's installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is now available.

To view the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

- Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies. Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius. Ape City Chronicles - The history of Ape City's first 75 years, written by Virgil. The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot. The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members. The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics. The Photos Section - POTA pics contributed by members.
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Group: pota Message: 63761 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
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That is true . Canadaian ratings are a total different way of doing it. Trailers are rating alson and the same movie can have ratings from G-R...I have a couple of Pota 2001 trailers and they bhave different lettering...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I doubt it's rated yet. There's a "Dragon Tattoo" trailer rated PG and one rated "R" so it has something to do with the Canadian rating system for trailers. The producer said "Rise" will probably be a strong PG-13 (still no face biting).
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 63762 From: James Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Review: Planet of the Apes #2 - Comic Book Resources
Comic Book Resources - REVIEW: Planet of the Apes #2 - “Down deep, each man believes that he is superior to you stinking animals. They ruled the planet for a million years, and they think they still own it.”
CBR Reviews - http://www.comicbookresources.com/feed.php?feed=reviews

IGN: Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes Pictures 3455801
Looking for Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes pictures? View the most extensive collection of Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes pictures on the web at ...
 

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Group: pota Message: 63763 From: rassmguy Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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Ha! That is another great quote. I'll have to remember that.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Indeed.To quote Noel again, when he was asked about another actress, 'There's simply no beginning to her talents!'.And Estella was STILL better than Marky Whispering Mumbles Mark.John, Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 63764 From: Dario Sciola Date: 5/27/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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Poor Estella. Perhaps nearing the 10 year anniversary of Burton POTA her
guilt finally set in and she went over the edge. Or perhaps she realized
that that fiasco was actually the highlight of her career.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: johnroche49 <johnroche49@...>
Date: Friday, May 27, 2011 5:27 am
Subject: [pota] Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time

> Indeed.To quote Noel again, when he was asked about another
> actress, 'There's simply no beginning to her talents!'.And Estella
> was STILL better than Marky Whispering Mumbles Mark.John, Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 63765 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/28/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
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Hopefully there will be more shots of the Apes in this one.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> For some reason it's called Trailer D. Runs 2 minutes, 10 seconds. Probably it will hit next week with "X-Men" but I guess it could hit any time on the net.
>
> http://www.albertafilmratings.ca/recentclasstrailers.aspx
>

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Group: pota Message: 63766 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/28/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
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Hopefully they'll show us why this is different from "Deep Blue Sea". I'm sold on the apes.


From: jamesa1102
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 6:09 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad




Hopefully there will be more shots of the Apes in this one.
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Group: pota Message: 63767 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/28/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad
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I was thinking today that if there's going to be a new PLANET Blu-ray to coincide with the release of RISE, we should be seeing an announcement of it in the next few weeks, but I suspect Jeff is right and if there is one in the works, it'll come out when RISE comes to Blu-ray, which probably won't be until December or the beginning of next year.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad

 
Hopefully they'll show us why this is different from "Deep Blue Sea". I'm sold on the apes.

From: jamesa1102
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 6:09 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: new "Rise" trailer on the launch pad

Hopefully there will be more shots of the Apes in this one.

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Group: pota Message: 63769 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/28/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Group: pota Message: 63770 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 5/29/2011
Subject: Breaking Point
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFzEYgIkPFU

Check out the voice over at just past 2 minutes, and also the name of one
of the guest stars in the end credits.


Chris L.
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Group: pota Message: 63771 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 5/29/2011
Subject: Site Stats
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My site stats for the last 8 weeks: 59,867 visitors

Get all the details at my twitter page.

 

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I'd say apes are alive and well. It's going to be a good boxoffice weekend for apes.

 

Al

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Group: pota Message: 63772 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/29/2011
Subject: Re: Breaking Point
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I've been renting old TV shows from Netflix and have seen, besides Sal Mineo, Paul Richards in a first season episode of "Hawaii 5-0" and Richards in a 1962 episode of "Perry Mason."  I also rented the first volume of a very early (1952) TV show that was done live out of NYC called "Tales From Tomorrow" that was produced by some guy named Mort Abrahams.




-----Original Message-----
From: lawford42 <lawford42@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 6:57 am
Subject: [pota] Breaking Point

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFzEYgIkPFU

Check out the voice over at just past 2 minutes, and also the name of one
of the guest stars in the end credits.


Chris L.
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Group: pota Message: 63776 From: Sherri Bragg Date: 5/29/2011
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
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Hello All,
I just found out that today, May 29, would have also been Baynes Barron's 94th birthday! In celebration, I watched "The Deception" and "Fireball 500" on DVD today. Happy Birthday, Baynes! Hope everyone is having a great weekend and holiday!
Arashi the Banjo Cat.


From: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:41 PM
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Group: pota Message: 63778 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: UK Apes Ads from 1974
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From: RedSpy13
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:27 AM
Subject: UK Apes Ads from 1974

 

Greetings, my friend.  Here are some Apes advertisements from the UK that I thought you might enjoy.  Of course, feel free to share them with the group.  More to come.

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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Group: pota Message: 63779 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: The World of Horror 01 (1974)
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From: RedSpy13
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:29 AM
Subject: The World of Horror 01 (1974)

 

This magazine contains an article on "Conquest".  Enjoy!

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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Group: pota Message: 63780 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Review: Planet of the Apes #2 - Comic Book Resources
Comic Book Resources - REVIEW: Planet of the Apes #2 - “Down deep, each man believes that he is superior to you stinking animals. They ruled the planet for ...
www.comicbookresources.com/?id=32520&amp;page=article

Weekend Reading: Toth, Apes, Jesus and Lichty
Comix 411
Apes: My pal Rich Handley, no stranger to Planet of the Apes, reviews the first issue of BOOM!'s new Apes series, and likes it. Apes II: Did you know there's also a new Planet Of The Apes novel out? That's right, novel! Scoop has the scoop. ...
See all stories on this topic »


Comix 411

 

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Group: pota Message: 63781 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975)
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From: RedSpy13
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:32 AM
Subject: The World of Horror 05 (1975)

 

Another issue of this British mag, this time with an article on the movies and tv series.  Enjoy!

 

Jeff (RedSpy)

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Group: pota Message: 63782 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
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Hello,

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Description : Thanks Jeff (RedSpy)!

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Hello,

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Group: pota Message: 63784 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: Re: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975) [1 Attachment]
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Thanks James!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
[Attachment(s) from James included below]

From: RedSpy13
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:32 AM
Subject: The World of Horror 05 (1975)

Another issue of this British mag, this time with an article on the movies and tv series. Enjoy!

Jeff (RedSpy)




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at
and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

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Group: pota Message: 63785 From: jamesa1102 Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: Re: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975) [1 Attachment]
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You're welcome but the thanks should really go to Jeff (Red Spy) who provided them.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks James!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM, James JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> >
> > [Attachment(s)<https://mail.google.com/mail.htmlcompose/static_files/blank_quirks.html130410ec0c5263ab_TopText>from James included below]
> >

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Group: pota Message: 63786 From: Jeff K. Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: more box office predictions
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Box Office Mojo has their projected list of the top movies this summer. Just shows how wrong thinking can be. This was posted before the holiday weekend in which "Hangover 2" wiped the floor with "Kung Fu Panda". So far this seems to be the Summer of the Yahoos ("Fast Five", "Hangover") and the bigger franchises aren't doing as hot as expected. But at this point there's still no love for "Rise of the POTA" (they compare it to "I, Robot" but without Will Smith). They think it'll make as much as "Bridesmaids"? This is war!! Maybe the trailer this week will change some minds.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3156

#1: "Harry Potter", what, 8? - - $350 million

#2: "Transformers 3" - - $320 m.

#3: "Kung Fu Panda 2" - - $285 m. (WRONG!)

#4: "Cars 2" - - $270 m.

#5: "Hangover 2" - - $255 m.

#6: "Pirates 4" - - $230 m. ($635 m. worldwide so far, that's a lot of treasure, savvy?)

#7: "Captain America" - - $200 m.

#8: "Thor" - - $180 m. ($412 m. worldwide so far; POTA2001 made $182 m. domestic 10 years ago with no help from 3D prices)

#9: "Super 8" - - $180 m. (a real wild card)

#10: "Zookeeper" - - $170 m. ("Dr. Dolittle" wannabe, Arthur Jacobs was ahead of his time)

#11: "X-Men" - - $155 m. (this is getting great reviews, congrats to Fox, we'll see this week)

#12: "Green Lantern" - - $130 m.

#13: "Bridesmaids" - - $125 m.

#14: "Rise of the POTA" - - $125 m. (or "I, POTA")
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Group: pota Message: 63787 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: Re: more box office predictions
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Box Office Mojo has their projected list of the top movies this summer. Just shows how wrong thinking can be. This was posted before the holiday weekend in which "Hangover 2" wiped the floor with "Kung Fu Panda". So far this seems to be the Summer of the Yahoos ("Fast Five", "Hangover") and the bigger franchises aren't doing as hot as expected. But at this point there's still no love for "Rise of the POTA" (they compare it to "I, Robot" but without Will Smith). They think it'll make as much as "Bridesmaids"? This is war!! Maybe the trailer this week will change some minds.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3156

#1: "Harry Potter", what, 8? - - $350 million

#2: "Transformers 3" - - $320 m.

#3: "Kung Fu Panda 2" - - $285 m. (WRONG!)

#4: "Cars 2" - - $270 m.

#5: "Hangover 2" - - $255 m.

#6: "Pirates 4" - - $230 m. ($635 m. worldwide so far, that's a lot of treasure, savvy?)

#7: "Captain America" - - $200 m.

#8: "Thor" - - $180 m. ($412 m. worldwide so far; POTA2001 made $182 m. domestic 10 years ago with no help from 3D prices)

#9: "Super 8" - - $180 m. (a real wild card)

#10: "Zookeeper" - - $170 m. ("Dr. Dolittle" wannabe, Arthur Jacobs was ahead of his time)

#11: "X-Men" - - $155 m. (this is getting great reviews, congrats to Fox, we'll see this week)

#12: "Green Lantern" - - $130 m.

#13: "Bridesmaids" - - $125 m.

#14: "Rise of the POTA" - - $125 m. (or "I, POTA")



If there's something about X-MEN: FIRST CLASS that makes it a "higher-than-expected-grosser," then RISE could benefit from the exposure.  I'm assuming a new RISE trailer will play before X-MEN.  But I really wish Fox had produced CAPTAIN AMERICA, because I think that's going to do better than X-MEN.
 
So far, I think this is a pretty lackluster summer movie season, and the 3-D fade is fast fading away.  I got suckered into FAST FIVE, but I haven't bothered seeing anything else and went to nothing this weekend.  I'm just not interested.  Now, I plan on going to X-MEN next weekend, but I sure hope it's worth it.
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 63788 From: James Date: 5/30/2011
Subject: FW: happy birthday franklin schaffner
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From: William Burge
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:13 PM
Subject: happy birthday franklin schaffner

 

dear group, here is my birthday tribute to director franklin schaffner that also directed charlton heston in the war lord 1965 and planet 1968. from william burge

 

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Group: pota Message: 63789 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: more box office predictions
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One of our main film critics over here described Hangover 2 as the worst sequel ever, apart from Exorcist 2.Still, crap seems to sell nowadays.I'm praying Rise shocks them all---my only worry is that it might actually be too good to sell.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
>>
> If there's something about X-MEN: FIRST CLASS that makes it a "higher-than-expected-grosser," then RISE could benefit from the exposure. I'm assuming a new RISE trailer will play before X-MEN. But I really wish Fox had produced CAPTAIN AMERICA, because I think that's going to do better than X-MEN.
>
> So far, I think this is a pretty lackluster summer movie season, and the 3-D fade is fast fading away. I got suckered into FAST FIVE, but I haven't bothered seeing anything else and went to nothing this weekend. I'm just not interested. Now, I plan on going to X-MEN next weekend, but I sure hope it's worth it.
>
> -- Rory
>
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Group: pota Message: 63790 From: johnroche49 Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: BOOM! #2!!!
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Just had BOOM's Apes #2. It's stunning. Issue #1 was good, but had the pit falls of setting the scene and introducing characters.Issue #2 , with all respect to #1, seems a quantum step up in story and art.The art is fantastic--very like Frank Quitely of Supes and X-Men fame.The sacript is funny, clever, adult, layered and totally absorbing.I'm panting for #3 and in Nix, the new gorilla 'bad' guy, we have a legend in the making! Don't miss out on this slice of Apes lore---it's the real deal.John,Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 63791 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975)
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Thanks be to Jeff the RED SPY!!!
;-)

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

You're welcome but the thanks should really go to Jeff (Red Spy) who provided them.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks James!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:13 AM, James JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> >
> > [Attachment(s)<https://mail.google.com/mail.htmlcompose/static_files/blank_quirks.html130410ec0c5263ab_TopText>from James included below]
> >




--
Bill Hollweg
Have Sword...
Will Slay...
Barbarian in need of Ale...
Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
Bill Hollweg
Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
http://brokensea.com/
The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at
and
Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio

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Group: pota Message: 63792 From: James Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

REVIEW: Planet of the Apes #2 | Major Spoilers - Comic Book ...
With tensions flaring like a Gorilla nostrils can this second helping from the Planet of the Apes keep itself out of the Forbidden Zone?
www.majorspoilers.com/review-planet-of-the-apes-2

 

The forecasted worldwide gross of all CBMs 2011?
Comic Book Movie
Rise of the Planet of the Apes (August 5) - $125 million domestically and $205 million from foriegn take. Looks like I, Robot with apes instead of robots and without a star (James Franco has none of Will Smith's drawing power). ...
See all stories on this topic »

http://nt2.ggpht.com/news/tbn/9nqDI278DwIJ
Comic Book Movie

 

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Group: pota Message: 63793 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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Looks like that fugitive syndrome Charlton Heston talked about is contagious.
 
 
In a message dated 5/26/2011 1:02:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, handleyr@... writes:
> I'll resist the temptation that, after Burton's Apes, she should be able to handle car crashes.That would be a crass and insensitive thing to say.At least the cops didn't try to brand her (I assume?).
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Group: pota Message: 63794 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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Give her a break.  She's 41 this year.
and she's realized there won't be a sequel
to her movie. But there's one up side. At
least she can still get arrested in Hollywood.
Which is more than some actors can say.
 
 
In a message dated 5/27/2011 11:21:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, handleyr@... writes:
 

Ha! That is another great quote. I'll have to remember that.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Indeed.To quote Noel again, when he was asked about another actress, 'There's simply no beginning to her talents!'.And Estella was STILL better than Marky Whispering Mumbles Mark.John, Scrolls.
>

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Group: pota Message: 63795 From: rassmguy Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: BOOM! #2!!!
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I completely agree, John. Nix, for me, is the standout character in this series. Aside from the artwork being a bit too Burton-esque in regard to the female chimps, I'm lovin' this series.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
> Just had BOOM's Apes #2. It's stunning. Issue #1 was good, but had the pit falls of setting the scene and introducing characters.Issue #2 , with all respect to #1, seems a quantum step up in story and art.The art is fantastic--very like Frank Quitely of Supes and X-Men fame.The sacript is funny, clever, adult, layered and totally absorbing.I'm panting for #3 and in Nix, the new gorilla 'bad' guy, we have a legend in the making! Don't miss out on this slice of Apes lore---it's the real deal.John,Scrolls.
>
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Group: pota Message: 63796 From: RedSpy13@aol.com Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: Re: FW: The World of Horror 05 (1975)
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You are very welcome.  I'm happy to be able to contribute a little something to the group once in a while.  When I come across some more vintage stuff, I'll be sure to forward it to the group.  Enjoy!

Jeff (RedSpy)
 
In a message dated 5/31/2011 10:39:54 Eastern Daylight Time, billhollweg@... writes:
 

Thanks be to Jeff the RED SPY!!!
;-)

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Group: pota Message: 63797 From: peter_karsten63 Date: 5/31/2011
Subject: OT: Mystery Sci-Fi Film?
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Hi Apers,

I was wondering if you could have me remember the name of a sci-fi film hopefully made in the 60's?

I think it starred Liam Sullivan (Star Trek: Plato's Stepchildren), but his filmography does not indicate the film in question-so maybe I'm wrong.

It's been so long since I saw the film that I don't know the full story; but herewith is what I can remember:

A crew of 4 or 5 astronauts/spacemen crash on Mars, during the film they encounter a Martian with a transparent done head showing his brain, and apparently this Martian needs the humans help to shrink his city to help the Martian civilization to survive, the humans succeed in doing what was needed, and the city begins to shrink, but they have to escape city or be trapped with the Martians; then somehow at the end of the film the humans end back on their spaceship above Mars.

Well that's it, any help will be appreciated.

I'm hoping this film is availble on DVD, once I know it's name.
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Group: pota Message: 63798 From: James Date: 6/1/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Sci-fi classics in 3D
Creative Review (blog)
Jim Tierney created illustrations for both Jules Verne covers (shown above), and Sara Ogilvie and Mick Brownfield contributed artwork for The Lost World and Planet of the Apes respectively (seen below). Vladimir Zimakov created the cover for The Call ...
See all stories on this topic »


Creative Review (blog)

Helena Bonham Carter Likes 'Weird' Women
Contactmusic.com
However, the 45-year-old star admits she has not always liked her performances in movies, and was reluctant to star in 2001's 'Planet of the Apes ' alongside Mark Wahlberg because she "didn't like" the story. She added: "I already didn't like the script ...
See all stories on this topic »


Contactmusic.com

'America's Best Dance Crew' Finale To Air Before MTV Movie Awards
MTV.com
Fans will be brought live to the carpet to see Emma Stone and Tom Felton introduce two never-before-seen clips from "The Help" and "Rise of the Planet of the Apes ," catch an interview with the cast of MTV's new series "Teen Wolf" and watch a special ...
See all stories on this topic »


MTV.com

 

 

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Group: pota Message: 63799 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 6/1/2011
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Well, I guess I have to record the MTV Movie Awards this Sunday night.  I usually pay it no attention, and will be watching "Game of Thrones" on HBO while it records -- that way I can play it back and scan through all the commercials and just watch "that which matters."




-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: POTA Group <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 9:15 am
Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 
FYI
 
Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
 
Sci-fi classics in 3D
Creative Review (blog)
Jim Tierney created illustrations for both Jules Verne covers (shown above), and Sara Ogilvie and Mick Brownfield contributed artwork for The Lost World and Planet of the Apes respectively (seen below). Vladimir Zimakov created the cover for The Call ...
See all stories on this topic »
Helena Bonham Carter Likes 'Weird' Women
Contactmusic.com
However, the 45-year-old star admits she has not always liked her performances in movies, and was reluctant to star in 2001's 'Planet of the Apes' alongside Mark Wahlberg because she "didn't like" the story. She added: "I already didn't like the script ...
See all stories on this topic »
'America's Best Dance Crew' Finale To Air Before MTV Movie Awards
MTV.com
Fans will be brought live to the carpet to see Emma Stone and Tom Felton introduce two never-before-seen clips from "The Help" and "Rise of the Planet of the Apes," catch an interview with the cast of MTV's new series "Teen Wolf" and watch a special ...
See all stories on this topic »
 
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Group: pota Message: 63800 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/1/2011
Subject: Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time
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since I keep getting "planet of the Apes" Google alerts.....mostly referring to her as "Planet of the Apes actress Estella Warren"....it apparently is the highlight of her career.....!

Tim


From: Dario Sciola <darios@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: Estella Warren not having a good time

 
Poor Estella. Perhaps nearing the 10 year anniversary of Burton POTA her
guilt finally set in and she went over the edge. Or perhaps she realized
that that fiasco was actually the highlight of her career.

Dario
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