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Dates: 2007-03-30 through 2007-04-02

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Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44324 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: big weekend
Group: potadg Message: 44325 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44326 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Test Post
Group: potadg Message: 44327 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Test Post
Group: potadg Message: 44328 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
Group: potadg Message: 44329 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44330 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44331 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
Group: potadg Message: 44332 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44333 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44334 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: big weekend
Group: potadg Message: 44335 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
Group: potadg Message: 44336 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: big weekend
Group: potadg Message: 44337 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Anniversary Chronicles
Group: potadg Message: 44338 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 44339 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Anniversary Chronicles
Group: potadg Message: 44340 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44341 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44342 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
Group: potadg Message: 44343 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: big weekend
Group: potadg Message: 44344 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44345 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Anniversary Chronicles
Group: potadg Message: 44346 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
Group: potadg Message: 44347 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: FW: [yg-alerts] Multiple message delivery issue fixed
Group: potadg Message: 44348 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44349 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
Group: potadg Message: 44350 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44351 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
Group: potadg Message: 44352 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44353 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44354 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 44355 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44356 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44357 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: New Uncle Manny!
Group: potadg Message: 44358 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44359 From: Rich Handley Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2759
Group: potadg Message: 44360 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 44361 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2759
Group: potadg Message: 44362 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Indigest Number 2759
Group: potadg Message: 44363 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2759
Group: potadg Message: 44364 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
Group: potadg Message: 44365 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
Group: potadg Message: 44366 From: Rich Handley Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44367 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44368 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: For Rich
Group: potadg Message: 44369 From: rassmguy Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
Group: potadg Message: 44370 From: rassmguy Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44371 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44372 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44373 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: For Rich
Group: potadg Message: 44374 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: For Richer
Group: potadg Message: 44375 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: For Poorer....
Group: potadg Message: 44376 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44377 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44378 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/31/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
Group: potadg Message: 44379 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
Group: potadg Message: 44380 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44381 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44382 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Groups
Group: potadg Message: 44383 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
Group: potadg Message: 44384 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 44385 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
Group: potadg Message: 44386 From: Rich Handley Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2798
Group: potadg Message: 44387 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2798
Group: potadg Message: 44388 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Groups
Group: potadg Message: 44389 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Indigest Number 2798
Group: potadg Message: 44390 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Groups
Group: potadg Message: 44391 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 44392 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
Group: potadg Message: 44393 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Indigest Number 2759
Group: potadg Message: 44394 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44395 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 44396 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Indigest Number 2759
Group: potadg Message: 44397 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
Group: potadg Message: 44398 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44399 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44400 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 4/1/2007
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 44401 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44402 From: Rich Handley Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
Group: potadg Message: 44403 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
Group: potadg Message: 44404 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
Group: potadg Message: 44405 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777
Group: potadg Message: 44406 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
Group: potadg Message: 44407 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: New PotaDG member
Group: potadg Message: 44408 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 44409 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 44410 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 44411 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 44412 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 44413 From: Neil Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 44414 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Serenity . . . again? Must have been the same poll!
Group: potadg Message: 44415 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 44416 From: rassmguy Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
Group: potadg Message: 44417 From: rassmguy Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
Group: potadg Message: 44418 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
Group: potadg Message: 44419 From: rassmguy Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
Group: potadg Message: 44420 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Serenity . . . again? Must have been the same poll!
Group: potadg Message: 44421 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
Group: potadg Message: 44422 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
Subject: Contributions



Group: potadg Message: 44323 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
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How about a 40th anniversary POTA US stamp of the scene of the ruined Statue of Liberty?  How do we start a petition for that?

**** I'm all for that idea, but I doubt we'll see it. Even though PLANET is in the Library of Congress for it's being an excellent film, I'm not so sure that the folks at the USPS would be as good to it... The reason: Most of their commemorative stamps are "commercial" and I don't know if the appeal of PLANET is as widespread as it should be.... The USPS only see's dollar signs when they issue these stamps, they don't care about true significance... And, with the R2-D2 mailboxes out there now, this certainly seems like it is a huge marketing gimmick, something I don't see happening for PLANET (not on that large of a scale anyway...)

I think the only PLANET stamp we'll see is that one from Africa (that still pops up on eBay occasionally...)




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Group: potadg Message: 44324 From: goapebilly@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: big weekend
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this is your big weekend yes? good luck i want to see plenty of pictures.also any word on sleeves    god luck this weekend  billy




See what's free at AOL.com.
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Group: potadg Message: 44325 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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James and the boys could get a petition to make it all happen in a couple of weeks (like Extended Battle!)!  :)
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 1:16 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

From IMDB.com:

Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
The U.S. Postal Service plans to mark the 30th anniversary of the release of the original Star Wars with a commemorative set of stamps featuring characters from the movie. The set, which will bear the new 41-cent first-class rate, is set to go on sale on May 25, eleven days after the postage hike takes effect. USPS Stamp Services director David Fallor told the BBC Wednesday, "We believe these stamps have the potential of reaching the blockbuster status of the [1993] Elvis stamp." Terms of the postal service's licensing deal with Lucasfilm, which owns the rights to the Star Wars characters, were not disclosed.



How about a 40th anniversary POTA US stamp of the scene of the ruined Statue of Liberty?  How do we start a petition for that?

-- Rory

 
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Group: potadg Message: 44326 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Test Post
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-- Yes everything is back to normal (or as normal as things get with Yahoo!) So everyone can safely start posting again.
 
Neil
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 12:10 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Test Post

Has this been sorted yet?

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Group: potadg Message: 44327 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Test Post
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-- Yes it is okay now.
 
Neil
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 30 March 2007 11:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Test Post

In a message dated 3/29/2007 6:24:36 PM Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:



Has this been sorted yet?


*** It seems that everything is alright now...

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Group: potadg Message: 44328 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
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-- There seems to be a few tiny mistakes, like the name of the person playing Dodge according to the web site is different from who they say plays him on the actual audio.
 
I've actually listened to this 3rd part and it is the best part so far but I think that is because it sticks mainly to the Planet script and has very little of the 'extra stuff' added by the writer.
 
Anyone else bothered to listen yet?
 
Neil
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 10:28 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Breaking News...

Thanks Neil

Nice picture!

Isn't it LFTL not LOTL?

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Group: potadg Message: 44329 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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-- Oh not a bloody petition please. I'm sure the glory hunters can fix that up for you.
 
Neil
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 1:16 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

How about a 40th anniversary POTA US stamp of the scene of the ruined Statue of Liberty?  How do we start a petition for that?

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Group: potadg Message: 44330 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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-- I hate to keep coming on and sounding like mister doom and gloom but do you really think they would bother even listening. POTA may be an 'iconic' or 'classic' movie or whatever you want to label it but it is not going to sell stamps. Star Wars will, it is bigger, more popular and has a s**t load more fans who will be willing to fork out money for stamps and stuff.
 
I'm sure some groups will want to be seen to be making a big effort with this but it will all be a waste of time and effort.
 
Neil
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 1:16 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

From IMDB.com:

Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
The U.S. Postal Service plans to mark the 30th anniversary of the release of the original Star Wars with a commemorative set of stamps featuring characters from the movie. The set, which will bear the new 41-cent first-class rate, is set to go on sale on May 25, eleven days after the postage hike takes effect. USPS Stamp Services director David Fallor told the BBC Wednesday, "We believe these stamps have the potential of reaching the blockbuster status of the [1993] Elvis stamp." Terms of the postal service's licensing deal with Lucasfilm, which owns the rights to the Star Wars characters, were not disclosed.



How about a 40th anniversary POTA US stamp of the scene of the ruined Statue of Liberty?  How do we start a petition for that?

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Group: potadg Message: 44331 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Breaking News...
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Right after I dangle my nuts in a blender and switch it on.....
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Breaking News...

-- There seems to be a few tiny mistakes, like the name of the person playing Dodge according to the web site is different from who they say plays him on the actual audio.
 
I've actually listened to this 3rd part and it is the best part so far but I think that is because it sticks mainly to the Planet script and has very little of the 'extra stuff' added by the writer.
 
Anyone else bothered to listen yet?
 
Neil
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 10:28 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Breaking News...

Thanks Neil

Nice picture!

Isn't it LFTL not LOTL?

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Group: potadg Message: 44332 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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I'd frankly stick to things we CAN do - like fan-made comics, stuff like that.
 
I'd also like to see the stamps but I am guessing we would need 10 000 signatures to even get their attention and if we did, when they only sold 100 sets (as with the trading cards and most everything POTA) we'd never get any mail after having made such powerful enemas (or is that enemies?)!  :)
 
I agree it would be nice Rory and I'll sign any petition, but I can't see this happening.
 
Michael
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

-- I hate to keep coming on and sounding like mister doom and gloom but do you really think they would bother even listening. POTA may be an 'iconic' or 'classic' movie or whatever you want to label it but it is not going to sell stamps. Star Wars will, it is bigger, more popular and has a s**t load more fans who will be willing to fork out money for stamps and stuff.
 
I'm sure some groups will want to be seen to be making a big effort with this but it will all be a waste of time and effort.
 
Neil
 
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Haristas@aol. com
Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 1:16 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

From IMDB.com:

Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
The U.S. Postal Service plans to mark the 30th anniversary of the release of the original Star Wars with a commemorative set of stamps featuring characters from the movie. The set, which will bear the new 41-cent first-class rate, is set to go on sale on May 25, eleven days after the postage hike takes effect. USPS Stamp Services director David Fallor told the BBC Wednesday, "We believe these stamps have the potential of reaching the blockbuster status of the [1993] Elvis stamp." Terms of the postal service's licensing deal with Lucasfilm, which owns the rights to the Star Wars characters, were not disclosed.



How about a 40th anniversary POTA US stamp of the scene of the ruined Statue of Liberty?  How do we start a petition for that?

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Group: potadg Message: 44333 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
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    -- Yeah, this one (nice artwork):
     
     
    What country was that from anyway? And was POTA that popular over there that they did a stamp or was there another reason for it?!
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 3:18 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)

    I think the only PLANET stamp we'll see is that one from Africa (that still pops up on eBay occasionally. ..)

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    Group: potadg Message: 44334 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
    Subject: Re: big weekend
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    -- Which big weekend would this be then?
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of goapebilly@...
    Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 4:51 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] big weekend

    this is your big weekend yes? good luck i want to see plenty of pictures.also any word on sleeves 
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    Group: potadg Message: 44335 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
    Subject: Re: Breaking News...
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    -- Seriously people need to give it a chance. Like I said this is the best part so far in my opinion but it still has quite a few things I dislike about it but I will keep listening to the bitter end.
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
    Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:40 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Breaking News...

    Right after I dangle my nuts in a blender and switch it on.....
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    Group: potadg Message: 44336 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
    Subject: Re: big weekend
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    Les Hemstock's I think!
    Good luck Les - get us some autographs mate?  :)

    Michael
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
    Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:45 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] big weekend

    -- Which big weekend would this be then?
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of goapebilly@aol. com
    Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 4:51 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] big weekend

    this is your big weekend yes? good luck i want to see plenty of pictures.also any word on sleeves 
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    Group: potadg Message: 44337 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
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    -- Yes but Michael frets much more about 'accuracy' than I tend to, if he didn't hold me in check heaven knows what I would draw!
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Whitty
    Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 12:13 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anniversary Chronicles

    You know - seriously - when Neil and I do something, and Cougar says "it does not suck", it means to us that it's an overwhelming success!

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    Group: potadg Message: 44339 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
    Subject: Re: Anniversary Chronicles
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    You'll all never know how true this is!
     
    Foster must be medicated and never feed him after midnight!

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
    Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:50 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Anniversary Chronicles

    -- Yes but Michael frets much more about 'accuracy' than I tend to, if he didn't hold me in check heaven knows what I would draw!
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Whitty
    Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 12:13 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anniversary Chronicles

    You know - seriously - when Neil and I do something, and Cougar says "it does not suck", it means to us that it's an overwhelming success!

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    Group: potadg Message: 44340 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
    Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
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      Central Africa I think...
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:43 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)

      -- Yeah, this one (nice artwork):
       
       
      What country was that from anyway? And was POTA that popular over there that they did a stamp or was there another reason for it?!
       
      Neil
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 3:18 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
      Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)

      I think the only PLANET stamp we'll see is that one from Africa (that still pops up on eBay occasionally. ..)

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      Group: potadg Message: 44341 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
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      .htmlCentral African Republic. They'll put anything on a stamp if they think it'll sell.

      Anthony

      On Mar 30, 2007, at 5:43 pm, Neil T Foster wrote:


      -- Yeah, this one (nice artwork):
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      What country was that from anyway? And was POTA that popular over there that they did a stamp or was there another reason for it?!
      Neil
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Ofmlccougar@aol.com
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 3:18 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)

      I think the only PLANET stamp we'll see is that one from Africa (that still pops up on eBay occasionally...)

      .



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      Group: potadg Message: 44342 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/30/2007
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      Fuck that Neil.
       
      They asked for our opinion.  We gave it.  They didn't listen to us - and left the group like (little baby) children having a huff.  Fuck 'em - they can suck my balls.
       
      Michael
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:48 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Breaking News...

      -- Seriously people need to give it a chance. Like I said this is the best part so far in my opinion but it still has quite a few things I dislike about it but I will keep listening to the bitter end.
       
      Neil
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:40 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
      Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Breaking News...

      Right after I dangle my nuts in a blender and switch it on.....
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      Subject: Re: big weekend
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      -- Oh right, this one:
       
       
       
       
      Neil
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:49 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [PotaDG] big weekend

      Les Hemstock's I think!
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      -- Okay thanks Anthony. I suppose I should have looked at it a bit better before I asked and should have been able to work that out from the stamp myself! D'oh!
       
      Neil
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:59 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)

      Central African Republic. They'll put anything on a stamp if they think it'll sell.

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      Subject: Re: Anniversary Chronicles
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      -- And keep him away from water (and soap!!!!) ;-)
       
      Neil
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:54 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Anniversary Chronicles

      You'll all never know how true this is!
       
      Foster must be medicated and never feed him after midnight!
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      Subject: Re: Breaking News...
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      .html In a message dated 3/30/2007 5:33:32 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:


      Anyone else bothered to listen yet?


      *** I will, as soon as Anthony sends me the compressed file for it...***



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      Group: potadg Message: 44347 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: FW: [yg-alerts] Multiple message delivery issue fixed
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      Sent: Friday, 30 March 2007 8:34 AM
      To: yg-alerts@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [yg-alerts] Multiple message delivery issue fixed

      We sincerely apologize for the mail delivery bug that caused many
      group members to receive multiple copies of group mail. This bug was
      introduced when we were working to increase mail delivery speed (one
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      The Groups product team has also posted a response to user feedback
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      Group: potadg Message: 44348 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
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      .html In a message dated 3/30/2007 5:46:30 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:


      What country was that from anyway? And was POTA that popular over there that they did a stamp or was there another reason for it?!


      *** Well Neil, I read your post regarding the SW stamps, and as you may have seen in my earlier post on the subject, we agree totally on this!

      Anway, as far as the pictured stamp, as said, it is from Africa, but what country, I am not sure... I do own that stamp, so next week i may have to pull it out and look at it... As to why they made a stamp, who knows but I'm glad they did... It's always weird to me that such places did create such cool products though...



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      Group: potadg Message: 44349 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Breaking News...
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      .htmlI'm downloading it now. :)


      On Mar 30, 2007, at 6:16 pm, mlccougar@... wrote:

      In a message dated 3/30/2007 5:33:32 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond.com writes:


      Anyone else bothered to listen yet?


      *** I will, as soon as Anthony sends me the compressed file for it...***

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      Group: potadg Message: 44350 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
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      .html In a message dated 3/30/2007 5:57:51 PM Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:




      Central Africa I think...


      *** yes, just as the stamp indicates...



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      Group: potadg Message: 44351 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Breaking News...
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      .html In a message dated 3/30/2007 6:00:41 PM Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


      Fuck 'em - they can suck my balls.


      *** You tell them Cartman! ***


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      Group: potadg Message: 44352 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
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      -- I don't suppose you (or anyone else) have any idea what year it came out?
       
      Neil
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 9:21 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)

      I do own that stamp, so next week i may have to pull it out and look at it... As to why they made a stamp, who knows but I'm glad they did... It's always weird to me that such places did create such cool products though...
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      Group: potadg Message: 44353 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
      .html
      The Central African Republic is one of the poorest countries on
      Earth. Most of us make more in a week than they make in a year.

      Check this out:

      <http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?
      sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&saaff=afdefault&sacur=0&ftrv=1&ftrt=1&fcl
      =3&frpp=200&from=R10&saslop=1&fss=0&satitle=%22Republique
      +Centrafricaine%22+stamps&sacat=-1%26catref%
      3DC6&bs=Search&fts=2&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sass=&fsop=1&fsoo=1>

      Anthony
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      Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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      Hello,

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      Group: potadg Message: 44355 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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      But if we don't try how do we know that it wouldn't be a waste of time.
      Somebody should write a letter to the US Postal Service and ask them
      about having POTA as a stamp.

      Kevin

      -----Original Message-----
      From: ntfoster@...
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 6:34 PM
      Subject: RE: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'



      -- I hate to keep coming on and sounding like mister doom and gloom but
      do you really think they would bother even listening. POTA may be an
      'iconic' or 'classic' movie or whatever you want to label it but it is
      not going to sell stamps. Star Wars will, it is bigger, more popular
      and has a s**t load more fans who will be willing to fork out money for
      stamps and stuff.

      I'm sure some groups will want to be seen to be making a big effort
      with this but it will all be a waste of time and effort.

      Neil


      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
      Of Haristas@...
      Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 1:16 AM
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'


      From IMDB.com:

      Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
      The U.S. Postal Service plans to mark the 30th anniversary of the
      release of the original Star Wars with a commemorative set of stamps
      featuring characters from the movie. The set, which will bear the new
      41-cent first-class rate, is set to go on sale on May 25, eleven days
      after the postage hike takes effect. USPS Stamp Services director David
      Fallor told the BBC Wednesday, "We believe these stamps have the
      potential of reaching the blockbuster status of the [1993] Elvis
      stamp." Terms of the postal service's licensing deal with Lucasfilm,
      which owns the rights to the Star Wars characters, were not disclosed.



      How about a 40th anniversary POTA US stamp of the scene of the ruined
      Statue of Liberty? How do we start a petition for that?



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      Group: potadg Message: 44356 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
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      .html In a message dated 3/30/2007 6:29:20 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:


      -- I don't suppose you (or anyone else) have any idea what year it came out?


      *** Not any clear idea, but it seems like it was on eBay when I first became aware of it around '99/'00, so i'd guess it's at least 7 years old...***



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      Group: potadg Message: 44357 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
      Subject: New Uncle Manny!
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        Love him or hate him, here's the old drunk once again!...
         
         
        Neil :- )
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 44358 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/30/2007
        Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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        -- Fine, you go ahead and do it then and be sure to post their response. I still stand by what I said though and think you will be wasting your time.
         
        Neil
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
        Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 10:36 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

        Somebody should write a letter to the US Postal Service and ask them
        about having POTA as a stamp.

        .

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        Group: potadg Message: 44359 From: Rich Handley Date: 3/30/2007
        Subject: Re: Digest Number 2759
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        >James and the boys could get a petition to make it all happen in a couple of
        >weeks (like Extended Battle!)! :)


        I really wish pot shots like that one would cease. No one at the
        other group is taking pot shots at this one, and it's getting very
        annoying having to read through posts like that here, then have the
        same people who make those posts turn around and act like the others
        are the ones making trouble. It's all so immature, and it needs to
        stop. There are good people in this group and there are good people
        in that group, and there are two sides to every squabble. Those who
        feel the need to bash the other group -- and, more importantly, those
        who read the bashing -- would be wise to remember that.

        Sorry, but it had to be said. The vitriol is poisonous to fandom.
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        Group: potadg Message: 44360 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2007
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        Reminder from:   PotaDG Yahoo! Group
         
        Title:   Ted Post's Birthday
         
        Date:   Saturday March 31, 2007
        Time:   All Day
        Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
        Notes:   Happy Birthday Ted!
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 44361 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/31/2007
        Subject: Re: Digest Number 2759
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        -- So post #40518 on the POTA group was what then? A genuine mistake (I don't think so myself)? Okay it's not a pot shot at the group but at an individual who is part of this group so that's okay then?
         
        Neil
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
        Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 1:24 PM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2759

        No one at the other group is taking pot shots at this one, and it's getting very
        annoying having to read through posts like that here, then have the
        same people who make those posts turn around and act like the others
        are the ones making trouble.

        .

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        Group: potadg Message: 44362 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
        Subject: Indigest Number 2759
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        They are taking many pot shots Rich - just not public ones.  They are too gutless to put a name to their actions.
         
        And they only get what they deserve.
         
        They have done a great deal of harm by their pretense that a quick 100 name petition actually got Fox to release extended Battle.  We all know how long it takes to put a DVD release together and in the time it took to make the petition there just wasn't enough time.  Someone got the word they were releasing Extended Battle and they drummed up the petition to make themselves look important.  It's a fucking disgrace Rich and if you think what they did is OK then we have a strong difference of opinion.  However, if I wish to make reference to it it is my right, which you and certainly expect to find me exercising on my group.
         
        Neil will confirm that "they" have been stirring up one hell of a lot of shit lately Rich and how dare you accuse me of ACTING like the others are making the trouble.  That's unfair and inaccurate.  Just because I am honest and public in my opinions and they are sneaky and dishonest, you can't say they are not stirring trouble.
         
        I know you stick with the popular crowd Rich, as you did when the Spanish Apes group went all to hell (you and I exchanged a few emails where we were very concerned about nothing moving forward, then you switched to the popular team at the critical time), but your opinion here isn't worth much - I mean you would have to classiy yourself as a taker on this group right?  You sure as hell don't contribute - well, except for this!  Maybe I should be giving you some advice?
         
        Sorry, but it had to be said!
         
        Michael
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
        Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 1:24 PM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2759



        >James and the boys could get a petition to make it all happen in a couple of
        >weeks (like Extended Battle!)! :)

        I really wish pot shots like that one would cease. No one at the
        other group is taking pot shots at this one, and it's getting very
        annoying having to read through posts like that here, then have the
        same people who make those posts turn around and act like the others
        are the ones making trouble. It's all so immature, and it needs to
        stop. There are good people in this group and there are good people
        in that group, and there are two sides to every squabble. Those who
        feel the need to bash the other group -- and, more importantly, those
        who read the bashing -- would be wise to remember that.

        Sorry, but it had to be said. The vitriol is poisonous to

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        Group: potadg Message: 44363 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
        Subject: Re: Digest Number 2759
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        Oh - but they would argue that it was not aimed at me.
         
        Just like all the Lessons From the Lawgiver.  Nothing to do with me or this group!  ;)
         
        Rich obviously prefers lying politicians to honest, real people!
         
        Michael
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
        Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 5:07 PM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2759

        -- So post #40518 on the POTA group was what then? A genuine mistake (I don't think so myself)? Okay it's not a pot shot at the group but at an individual who is part of this group so that's okay then?
         
        Neil
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
        Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 1:24 PM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2759

        No one at the other group is taking pot shots at this one, and it's getting very
        annoying having to read through posts like that here, then have the
        same people who make those posts turn around and act like the others
        are the ones making trouble.

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        Group: potadg Message: 44364 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/31/2007
        Subject: Re: Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars' (Why not a PLANET stamp?)
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        I've got that one.
        Republic of Central Africa, I think...
        If there is such a place.  Anyone?
        Bueller?
         
         




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        Group: potadg Message: 44365 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/31/2007
        Subject: Re: Breaking News...
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        Yes it is the best part so far, I think because there's more
        characters rather than just a long monologue. But I'm not sure which
        is better: this part is pretty much taken striaght from the movie so
        is nothing new; I was more interested in hearing what new stuff they
        had to add to the mix but thought the prologue came off a bit corny.
        Still, I'll keep listening.
        >
        > -- Seriously people need to give it a chance. Like I said this is
        the
        > best part so far in my opinion but it still has quite a few things I
        > dislike about it but I will keep listening to the bitter end.
        >
        > Neil
        >
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
        Behalf
        > Of Michael Whitty
        > Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 8:40 AM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Breaking News...
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Right after I dangle my nuts in a blender and switch it on.....
        > .
        >
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        Group: potadg Message: 44366 From: Rich Handley Date: 3/31/2007
        Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
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        >Posted by: "Neil T Foster" ntfoster@... munkeyman63au
        >-- So post #40518 on the POTA group was what then? A genuine mistake (I
        >don't think so myself)? Okay it's not a pot shot at the group but at an
        >individual who is part of this group so that's okay then?


        Neil, I looked up the post in question, and I see a pun, not an
        attack, though I can see how the sensitivity of the situation might
        cause it to be perceived as one, and as such it probably shouldn't
        have been said. In any case, I have always seen you as a
        level-headed, reasonable and intelligent guy, Neil, so I ask you
        this. Putting aside anything that might have transpired in the past
        and which "side" you ended up on -- do you really think the potshots
        are necessary at this point? Do you think they do anything but make
        the divisions worse and make those who sling them look immature and
        spiteful? Do you see any point in dredging up the past and airing it
        in public in order to get others who weren't there for the original
        fights to take sides? Do you see any value to writing rude e-mails
        to fellow posters? I don't, and I believe you're reasonable enough
        not to think so either. You're a talented guy, Neil, and you do a
        lot for fandom. It's just disappointing to watch when the other crap
        takes the forefront, that's all.
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        Group: potadg Message: 44367 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
        Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
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        Well stop contributing to it and instead email people privately if you have a problem.
         
        Or do you think it will help matters to make a public attack?
         
        Michael
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
        Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 1:25 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777


        >Posted by: "Neil T Foster" ntfoster@bigpond. com munkeyman63au
        >-- So post #40518 on the POTA group was what then? A genuine mistake (I
        >don't think so myself)? Okay it's not a pot shot at the group but at an
        >individual who is part of this group so that's okay then?

        Neil, I looked up the post in question, and I see a pun, not an
        attack, though I can see how the sensitivity of the situation might
        cause it to be perceived as one, and as such it probably shouldn't
        have been said. In any case, I have always seen you as a
        level-headed, reasonable and intelligent guy, Neil, so I ask you
        this. Putting aside anything that might have transpired in the past
        and which "side" you ended up on -- do you really think the potshots
        are necessary at this point? Do you think they do anything but make
        the divisions worse and make those who sling them look immature and
        spiteful? Do you see any point in dredging up the past and airing it
        in public in order to get others who weren't there for the original
        fights to take sides? Do you see any value to writing rude e-mails
        to fellow posters? I don't, and I believe you're reasonable enough
        not to think so either. You're a talented guy, Neil, and you do a
        lot for fandom. It's just disappointing to watch when the other crap

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        Group: potadg Message: 44368 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
        Subject: For Rich
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          When "the others" used their "Lessons From the Lawgiver" to attack Neil and I in their usual sly manner, we resorted to their tactics for a while.
           
          Whenever I read the title "Lessons From the Lawgiver" I wonder who would ever be so arrogant as to use the Lawgiver's name in vain and make the Lawgiver a vessel for his own hatred and stupidity.  So I decided I could only really know if I did it myself!
           
          When Dave Ballard left Neil and I mid-project because he had "a job promotion that would prevent him from contributing to POTA for some time", we had to re-write a story that was quite good, but probably could have been done in 5 or 6 pages.
           
          Neil had started the first 5 pages and we kept these intact, changing the text and the entire story from there on.
           
          When the first pages of GOING HOME were released, instead of someone contacting us to ask what was going on, James and the gang released a "Lessons From the Lawgiver" about a "dim-witted neighbour" who had to copy things. This is typical of the attacks we suffer - cloaked in innocence so that there can be plausible denial.
           
          But for those of us who are neither stupid nor biased (or motivated by a desire to be with the "in" crowd), the claimed coincidence is simply nothing but a cowardly attack, leaving no avenue for defending oneself.  Many of you here who have been gagged by James know this is his style.  Lake a public comment, the disallow your capacity to retalliate.
           
          So here's the take on it that Neil and I had (notice we don't claim to BE the Lawgiver at any time!):
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 44369 From: rassmguy Date: 3/31/2007
          Subject: Re: Breaking News...
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          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
          > Yes it is the best part so far, I think because there's more
          > characters rather than just a long monologue.

          For some reason, I can't seem to open any of the audio files -- when I
          click on them, nothing happens. Anyone else having that problem?
          After reading all the reactions to the broadcast, I wanted to check it
          out, but it doesn't look like I'll be able to.
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          Group: potadg Message: 44370 From: rassmguy Date: 3/31/2007
          Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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          I have to agree. While it would be nice to see a POTA stamp, I just
          don't see it happening. Unless, of course, you count these: :)

          http://worldheritage.heindorffhus.dk/frame-USA-Liberty.htm





          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
          >
          > -- Fine, you go ahead and do it then and be sure to post their
          response.
          > I still stand by what I said though and think you will be wasting
          your
          > time.
          >
          > Neil
          >
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf
          > Of PofTAfan@...
          > Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 10:36 AM
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
          >
          >
          >
          > Somebody should write a letter to the US Postal Service and ask
          them
          > about having POTA as a stamp.
          >
          >
          > .
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 44371 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/31/2007
          Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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          Well I sent a comment to the USPS to ask them about a POTA stamp
          collection. I may see an answer from them in about 1 or 2 days. Unless
          you send them a suggestion about a POTA stamp collection they may never
          do one. Besides, they can give you one answer to the ideal?

          Yes or No.

          Kevin

          -----Original Message-----
          From: handleyr@...
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 12:32 PM
          Subject: [PotaDG] Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

          I have to agree. While it would be nice to see a POTA stamp,
          I just
          don't see it happening. Unless, of course, you count these: :)

          http://worldheritage.heindorffhus.dk/frame-USA-Liberty.htm

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
          >
          > -- Fine, you go ahead and do it then and be sure to post their
          response.
          > I still stand by what I said though and think you will be wasting
          your
          > time.
          >
          > Neil
          >
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf
          > Of PofTAfan@...
          > Sent: Saturday, 31 March 2007 10:36 AM
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
          >
          >
          >
          > Somebody should write a letter to the US Postal Service and ask
          them
          > about having POTA as a stamp.
          >
          >
          > .
          >
          > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
          s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
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          Group: potadg Message: 44372 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/31/2007
          Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
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          -- Well where you see a pun I see a pot shot. Maybe you could make the excuse for the guy that he was using a pun if the person it was directed at was even on that group but he wasn't / isn't.
          The person who posted it is one of that group's moderators, or at least he used to be at one time. The posts over there are moderated or as it's stated in the group description, all posts have to be approved. That means that the other moderators over there approved it knowing full well that it was a pot shot. Doesn't that say anything to you?
           
          What you saw as a pot shot on the DG the other day I just see as a running gag that we have had going on here for quite a while now about a certain lame petition and has been mentioned in the past by many members.
           
          I also think you are assuming too much if you read into any posts that 'we' are trying to make people choose sides. The sides were chosen long ago I think, which is why we have two separate active Apes groups where there should really only be one.
           
          Were you here the other month when some nameless coward tried to cause trouble by referring a post about Scrolls covers to that magazines writer? It wasn't me that started that crappy little episode but the fact is somebody deliberately set out to cause trouble, funnily enough just when the DG was running along more happily than it had been for quite a while. You would probably just see that as a coincidence or something though wouldn't you?
           
          And really, If I did want to dredge up the past and show what some people are really like I would do something like posting the crap that went on in the Spanish Apes group. Chris Lawless may have nuked that group but he didn't do it before I copied the archived posts. I could also post a copy of an email that shows that a certain person, who I used to think was a friend of mine in Ape fandom, is in fact a 2 faced liar who says one thing to your face whilst subtly assassinating your character behind your back in emails sent to other people that he never expected to be seen by me. I could also post copies of the emails to me which are full of insults and which say the nastiest things about some of the comics I have done. I have chosen not to air that stuff and plenty of other stuff. I could if I wanted to keep 'the fight' going but I don't but others don't seem to be willing to let it go, it's a problem on both sides.
           
          You need to see things for what they are amigo, I don't think it is fair for you to say in response to a post on the DG that it's "very annoying having to read through posts like that here" then brush of an insulting post on the POTA group as "a pun, not an attack". Time to take the blinkers off I think.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
          Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 1:25 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777


          >Posted by: "Neil T Foster" ntfoster@bigpond. com munkeyman63au
          >-- So post #40518 on the POTA group was what then? A genuine mistake (I
          >don't think so myself)? Okay it's not a pot shot at the group but at an
          >individual who is part of this group so that's okay then?

          Neil, I looked up the post in question, and I see a pun, not an
          attack, though I can see how the sensitivity of the situation might
          cause it to be perceived as one, and as such it probably shouldn't
          have been said. In any case, I have always seen you as a
          level-headed, reasonable and intelligent guy, Neil, so I ask you
          this. Putting aside anything that might have transpired in the past
          and which "side" you ended up on -- do you really think the potshots
          are necessary at this point? Do you think they do anything but make
          the divisions worse and make those who sling them look immature and
          spiteful? Do you see any point in dredging up the past and airing it
          in public in order to get others who weren't there for the original
          fights to take sides? Do you see any value to writing rude e-mails
          to fellow posters? I don't, and I believe you're reasonable enough
          not to think so either. You're a talented guy, Neil, and you do a
          lot for fandom. It's just disappointing to watch when the other crap
          takes the forefront, that's all.

           

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          Group: potadg Message: 44373 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/31/2007
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          -- He also 'borrowed' them from the DG files and uploaded them to the POTA and Friends and Fugitives groups without permission. Of course he might have just done that to share them with 'the fans' without realising they were done exclusively for the DG though why he would have done such a thing I can't understand as he was no longer a part of this group at the time!
           
          To be fair though I don't think the 'dim-witted neighbour' lesson was the one about 'stealing' the writer's story there was an earlier one that hinted of that though. The 'D-WN' one was in response to something else that we did I think.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
          Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 1:59 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] For Rich

          When the first pages of GOING HOME were released, instead of someone contacting us to ask what was going on, James and the gang released a "Lessons From the Lawgiver" about a "dim-witted neighbour"
          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 44374 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
          Subject: For Richer
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          Maybe they were taking the piss out of themselves for stealing your improved wall-map pic?
           
          I'll let Neil explain.
           
          Michael
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
          Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 8:56 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] For Rich

           
           
          To be fair though I don't think the 'dim-witted neighbour' lesson was the one about 'stealing' the writer's story there was an earlier one that hinted of that though. The 'D-WN' one was in response to something else that we did I think.
           
          Neil
           

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          Group: potadg Message: 44375 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
          Subject: For Poorer....
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          Hard to swallow when he banned our final chapter of Beware the Beast from being published on the (then) newly taken over POTA group!
           
          Maybe James IS the dim-witted neighbour!

          Michael
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
          Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 8:56 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] For Rich

          -- He also 'borrowed' them from the DG files and uploaded them to the POTA and Friends and Fugitives groups without permission. Of course he might have just done that to share them with 'the fans' without realising they were done exclusively for the DG though why he would have done such a thing I can't understand as he was no longer a part of this group at the time!
           
           
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 44376 From: Neil T Foster Date: 3/31/2007
          Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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          -- Good on you Kevin and it will be interesting to hear what they do say to you when (if) they reply.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
          Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 8:02 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

          Well I sent a comment to the USPS to ask them about a POTA stamp
          collection. I may see an answer from them in about 1 or 2 days. Unless
          you send them a suggestion about a POTA stamp collection they may never
          do one. Besides, they can give you one answer to the ideal?

          Yes or No.

          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 44377 From: Michael Whitty Date: 3/31/2007
          Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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          Yeah - thanks for asking Kevin.
           
          Michael
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
          Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 9:31 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

          -- Good on you Kevin and it will be interesting to hear what they do say to you when (if) they reply.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
          Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 8:02 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'

          Well I sent a comment to the USPS to ask them about a POTA stamp
          collection. I may see an answer from them in about 1 or 2 days. Unless
          you send them a suggestion about a POTA stamp collection they may never
          do one. Besides, they can give you one answer to the ideal?

          Yes or No.

          .
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          Group: potadg Message: 44378 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 3/31/2007
          Subject: Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'
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          Thanks. But even if they say no......i'm still going to bug them on it.

          Kevin

          -----Original Message-----
          From: whitty@...
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 7:44 PM
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'



          Yeah - thanks for asking Kevin.

          Michael


          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
          Of Neil T Foster
          Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 9:31 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'




          -- Good on you Kevin and it will be interesting to hear what they do
          say to you when (if) they reply.

          Neil


          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
          Of PofTAfan@...
          Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 8:02 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: (OT) Postal Force Joins 'Star Wars'


          Well I sent a comment to the USPS to ask them about a POTA stamp
          collection. I may see an answer from them in about 1 or 2 days. Unless
          you send them a suggestion about a POTA stamp collection they may never
          do one. Besides, they can give you one answer to the ideal?

          Yes or No.



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          Group: potadg Message: 44379 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
          Subject: New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
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            -- Remember, you heard it here first!! - I have just found out that a French cable network, M6, has started making a TV mini-series of Boulle's Monkey Planet! Here are a few photos from the show, apparently for some reason it is being filmed in black and white except for the opening and closing 'Jinn and Phyllis' scenes which are in colour!
             
            Here are some photos from it that I have managed to track down so far:
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
             
            Neil
             
             
             
            (Check the date folks!)
             
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            Group: potadg Message: 44380 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
            Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
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            In a message dated 3/31/2007 10:59:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:
            Or do you think it will help matters to make a public attack?
             
            That's a good question.
            Obviously they don't find our criticism constructive,
            or they would have stuck around.  But since they
            bailed I can't see how it can hurt.  Must be nice
            though to have time to polish that turd.  But I don't
            have the time to listen to it, so I can't tell if it's getting
            any better.  Can't take "The Others'" word for it.  They
            think it's great! I wonder what they would think is terrible.
             




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            Group: potadg Message: 44381 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
            Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
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            In a message dated 3/31/2007 5:21:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:
            What you saw as a pot shot on the DG the other day I just see as a running gag that we have had going on here for quite a while now
             
            You can compare the two by content.
            Over there you get stuff like that travesty
            of a radio play.  Over here you get comics
            that are better draw then the originals.  I
            think we all know which is the better group.
             




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            Group: potadg Message: 44382 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
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            You know T, we'd be just as happy to do our thing for any group...IF we could trust them!
             
            The problem is, James is one enormous control freak.  Now I have a mother who is as bad and a good friend who is probably worse, but at least I can always freely tell them and anyone else that what they are doing is controlling, and not acceptible.  However, James makes sure any criticism of him is met with a gag.  He won't allow healthy debate.  He also makes outrageous claims (like the "Battle was cut to get an extra screening in each day" travesty) and pretends some imaginary authority figure (whose identity he can't reveal) confided this in him.
             
            This sort of behaviour is much like Hitler's re-writing history.
             
            It's a very serious problem and it's bad enough to sit by and allow it - but to support the guy is a crime.  He's pure evil - and in such a way that even Satan would not like the guy because he lacks the courage to put a name to his chaos.
             
            Yes, I do get into scuffles, but (believe it or not) I do not enjoy them and nor do I orchestrate them so I can claim to be king of all things POTA.  Cougar and Rory are the kings anyway!  :)
             
            Anyway - back to my point.  Neil and I do NOT enjoy running the group.  We would if all this shit stopped and if it wasn't an all consuming job.  But it is a dirty, difficult task that I am sure (and happy!) none of you here will ever understand.  Some of the things we endure are just stranger than fiction.  One sick bastard even wrote a story that featured Neil and I as a gay couple and involved my CHILDREN in it.  Another (Chris Lawless) nearly had me fired from my job because I sent emails to the group from work.  Not because he had a problem with me sending emails from work - but to stop me from being available to respond quickly to posts (which is something I used to pride myself on).  This is how nasty and competitive it is.  Lawless also tells people I faked a brain tumour.  This is an outright lie.  I have medical evidence that doctors found a growth on my brain and I was shit-scared it could be life ending.  It turned out to be nothing but it was not contrived.  And to make matters worse I had kept it from my family and they found out by reading one of Lawless' emails.  Of course when Neil asked him what evidence he had to back this up, he had none. Of course not - it's just another lie.  Lawless is a bit of a stalker and that's why I warn people about him.  He kept sending me letters and clippings about Bob Guccione because he found out I ran strippers for Australian Penthouse in my wild days.  And Neil and I waited 9 months after deadline for him to write a comic - then he got savage with us because we didn't wait any longer.  He is very unstable in my opinion and very dangerous so BE WARNED.  He feeds his ego by hanging off the genuine players in the POTA community (as do James and Shmutz) until he is seen for what he is and then he becomes vindictive.  What we Aussies call a GUNNER (always GUNNER do this and GUNNER do that!).
             
            So yeah - I'm so insane I nearly lost my job to keep this group what it is.

            Michael
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
            Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 5:17 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777

            In a message dated 3/31/2007 5:21:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
            What you saw as a pot shot on the DG the other day I just see as a running gag that we have had going on here for quite a while now
             
            You can compare the two by content.
            Over there you get stuff like that travesty
            of a radio play.  Over here you get comics
            that are better draw then the originals.  I
            think we all know which is the better group.
             




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            Group: potadg Message: 44383 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
            Subject: Re: New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
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              April fool?

              Good one Fosta!
               
              Michael
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
              Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 3:58 PM
              To: 'PotaDG'
              Subject: [PotaDG] New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!

              -- Remember, you heard it here first!! - I have just found out that a French cable network, M6, has started making a TV mini-series of Boulle's Monkey Planet! Here are a few photos from the show, apparently for some reason it is being filmed in black and white except for the opening and closing 'Jinn and Phyllis' scenes which are in colour!
               
              Here are some photos from it that I have managed to track down so far:
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
              Neil
               
               
               
              (Check the date folks!)
               
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              Group: potadg Message: 44384 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
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                When I asked for a picture of Burke with no shirt, this was NOT what I was thinking of!  :)
                 


                Michael
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                Group: potadg Message: 44385 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
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                I see. Ya can't make a monkey out of me. Get it.

                Kevin

                -----Original Message-----
                From: ntfoster@...
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 1:58 AM
                Subject: [PotaDG] New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!



                -- Remember, you heard it here first!! - I have just found out that a
                French cable network, M6, has started making a TV mini-series of
                Boulle's Monkey Planet! Here are a few photos from the show, apparently
                for some reason it is being filmed in black and white except for the
                opening and closing 'Jinn and Phyllis' scenes which are in colour!

                Here are some photos from it that I have managed to track down so far:

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                Group: potadg Message: 44386 From: Rich Handley Date: 4/1/2007
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                >Posted by: "Neil T Foster" ntfoster@... munkeyman63au
                >-- Well where you see a pun I see a pot shot.

                Fair enough. Perhaps you're right.

                >Maybe you could make the
                >excuse for the guy that he was using a pun if the person it was directed
                >at was even on that group but he wasn't / isn't.

                Oh, to be clear -- I'm not making excuses. As I answered in my
                previous note, it probably shouldn't have been said. That said, I've
                clearly opened a can of worms and caused some tension here, which was
                not my intention. My apologies -- I'll say nothing more, except for this:

                >Were you here the other month when some nameless coward tried to cause
                >trouble by referring a post about Scrolls covers to that magazines
                >writer? It wasn't me that started that crappy little episode but the
                >fact is somebody deliberately set out to cause trouble, funnily enough
                >just when the DG was running along more happily than it had been for
                >quite a while. You would probably just see that as a coincidence or
                >something though wouldn't you?

                Neil, I'm going to ignore the tone of the last sentence because I've
                no desire to meet sarcasm with sarcasm and elevate this, just as I
                ignored a few unfair potshots taken at me following the Spanish Apes
                debacle, back when I wasn't yet a member of this group. I also won't
                comment on the other points because it would be hypocritical of me to
                complain about airing issues here and then do so myself. I remember
                the Spanish Apes group incident well, and what went on there got
                ugly, yes,,,but those "blinkers" you accused me of wearing here, I
                submit you might have been wearing there, because I saw the
                antagonism coming from a different source than you apparently
                did. But we'll have to agree to disagree here. For a long time
                after the Spanish Apes incident, I was not a member of either group
                because of all the fighting in both locations, something I chose to
                avoid. I ultimately decided to join both groups because I'm a fan
                and was interested in hearing what other fans had to say. I
                apologize if my observation the other day has disrupted that -- it
                wasn't my intention. I'll shut up now.
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                Group: potadg Message: 44387 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2798
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                >I'm not making excuses. As I answered in my previous note, it probably shouldn't have been said. That said, I've clearly opened a can of worms and caused some tension here
                 
                -- But the thing is you say it 'probably' shouldn't have been said where as I believe it DEFINITELY shouldn't have been said, or allowed passed the post checkers. Also you didn't see it as an attack just as a pun, something harmless and a bit of fun when we all know what it was really meant as but of course the myth continues that we are the group that causes all the trouble.
                 
                >I'm going to ignore the tone of the last sentence because I've no desire to meet sarcasm with sarcasm and elevate this,
                 
                -- No sarcasm intended, just a question, after the way you chose to interpret the above mentioned post on the POTA group, to find out your views on what happened the other month and whether you saw what went on or completely missed the blatant attempt to disrupt this group.
                 
                >I remember the Spanish Apes group incident well, and what went on there got
                ugly, yes,,,but those "blinkers" you accused me of wearing here, I submit you might have been wearing there, because I saw the antagonism coming from a different source than you apparently did.
                 
                -- Yes it got ugly over there on both sides but only one person made himself a group owner and relegated everyone else to members and then 'made the rules' (which only applied to people who weren't on his side) without any consultation with any others making a tense situation much much worse.
                 
                >I apologize if my observation the other day has disrupted that -- it wasn't my intention. I'll shut up now.
                 
                -- Probably a good idea. Once I would have just ignored this but I've had enough of taking shit, there has been f**k all fighting between groups here for a long time just a couple of 'jokes / pot shots' call them what you like and I don't have the time to waste getting dragged into that shit again. I've already wasted valuable time answering these posts.
                 
                Neil
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                -- To borrow from Monty Python :-
                But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't
                believe ya'  ;-)
                 
                Neil
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
                Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 6:23 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Groups

                Anyway - back to my point.  Neil and I do NOT enjoy running the group.  We would if all this shit stopped and if it wasn't an all consuming job.  But it is a dirty, difficult task that I am sure (and happy!) none of you here will ever understand.  Some of the things we endure are just stranger than fiction.  One sick bastard even wrote a story that featured Neil and I as a gay couple and involved my CHILDREN in it.  Another (Chris Lawless) nearly had me fired from my job because I sent emails to the group from work.  Not because he had a problem with me sending emails from work - but to stop me from being available to respond quickly to posts (which is something I used to pride myself on).  This is how nasty and competitive it is.  Lawless also tells people I faked a brain tumour.  This is an outright lie.  I have medical evidence that doctors found a growth on my brain and I was shit-scared it could be life ending.  It turned out to be nothing but it was not contrived.  And to make matters worse I had kept it from my family and they found out by reading one of Lawless' emails.  Of course when Neil asked him what evidence he had to back this up, he had none. Of course not - it's just another lie.  Lawless is a bit of a stalker and that's why I warn people about him.  He kept sending me letters and clippings about Bob Guccione because he found out I ran strippers for Australian Penthouse in my wild days.  And Neil and I waited 9 months after deadline for him to write a comic - then he got savage with us because we didn't wait any longer. 
                .

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                Group: potadg Message: 44389 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Indigest Number 2798
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                Speaking of childish and immature....notice what I said Neil, that Rich refuses to respond to anything I say?
                 
                How childish is that?
                 
                Michael
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 7:06 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2798

                >I'm not making excuses. As I answered in my previous note, it probably shouldn't have been said. That said, I've clearly opened a can of worms and caused some tension here
                 
                -- But the thing is you say it 'probably' shouldn't have been said where as I believe it DEFINITELY shouldn't have been said, or allowed passed the post checkers. Also you didn't see it as an attack just as a pun, something harmless and a bit of fun when we all know what it was really meant as but of course the myth continues that we are the group that causes all the trouble.
                 
                >I'm going to ignore the tone of the last sentence because I've no desire to meet sarcasm with sarcasm and elevate this,
                 
                -- No sarcasm intended, just a question, after the way you chose to interpret the above mentioned post on the POTA group, to find out your views on what happened the other month and whether you saw what went on or completely missed the blatant attempt to disrupt this group.
                 
                >I remember the Spanish Apes group incident well, and what went on there got
                ugly, yes,,,but those "blinkers" you accused me of wearing here, I submit you might have been wearing there, because I saw the antagonism coming from a different source than you apparently did.
                 
                -- Yes it got ugly over there on both sides but only one person made himself a group owner and relegated everyone else to members and then 'made the rules' (which only applied to people who weren't on his side) without any consultation with any others making a tense situation much much worse.
                 
                >I apologize if my observation the other day has disrupted that -- it wasn't my intention. I'll shut up now.
                 
                -- Probably a good idea. Once I would have just ignored this but I've had enough of taking shit, there has been f**k all fighting between groups here for a long time just a couple of 'jokes / pot shots' call them what you like and I don't have the time to waste getting dragged into that shit again. I've already wasted valuable time answering these posts.
                 
                Neil
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                Group: potadg Message: 44390 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: Groups
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                Aye!
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 8:49 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Groups

                -- To borrow from Monty Python :-
                But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't
                believe ya'  ;-)
                 
                Neil
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
                Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 6:23 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Groups

                Anyway - back to my point.  Neil and I do NOT enjoy running the group.  We would if all this shit stopped and if it wasn't an all consuming job.  But it is a dirty, difficult task that I am sure (and happy!) none of you here will ever understand.  Some of the things we endure are just stranger than fiction.  One sick bastard even wrote a story that featured Neil and I as a gay couple and involved my CHILDREN in it.  Another (Chris Lawless) nearly had me fired from my job because I sent emails to the group from work.  Not because he had a problem with me sending emails from work - but to stop me from being available to respond quickly to posts (which is something I used to pride myself on).  This is how nasty and competitive it is.  Lawless also tells people I faked a brain tumour.  This is an outright lie.  I have medical evidence that doctors found a growth on my brain and I was shit-scared it could be life ending.  It turned out to be nothing but it was not contrived.  And to make matters worse I had kept it from my family and they found out by reading one of Lawless' emails.  Of course when Neil asked him what evidence he had to back this up, he had none. Of course not - it's just another lie.  Lawless is a bit of a stalker and that's why I warn people about him.  He kept sending me letters and clippings about Bob Guccione because he found out I ran strippers for Australian Penthouse in my wild days.  And Neil and I waited 9 months after deadline for him to write a comic - then he got savage with us because we didn't wait any longer. 
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                Group: potadg Message: 44391 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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                Oh My!!!

                Donna

                >From: "Michael Whitty" Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com To: Subject:
                >[PotaDG] Home Page Picture Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 21:19:17 +1000
                >
                >When I asked for a picture of Burke with no shirt, this was NOT what I was
                >thinking of! :)
                >
                >
                >>1kYXlu>
                >
                >Michael << a119.jpg_grRZOEGBBw1kYXlu >>
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                Group: potadg Message: 44392 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
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                I agree. That is a good one. You certainly got me on that one. April
                Fool!

                Donna


                >From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
                >Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                >To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                >Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
                >Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 19:15:46 +1000
                >
                >April fool?
                >
                >Good one Fosta!
                >
                >Michael
                >
                >
                >-----Original Message-----
                >From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
                >Neil T Foster
                >Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 3:58 PM
                >To: 'PotaDG'
                >Subject: [PotaDG] New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >-- Remember, you heard it here first!! - I have just found out that a
                >French
                >cable network, M6, has started making a TV mini-series of Boulle's Monkey
                >Planet! Here are a few photos from the show, apparently for some reason it
                >is being filmed in black and white except for the opening and closing 'Jinn
                >and Phyllis' scenes which are in colour!
                >
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                Group: potadg Message: 44393 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: Indigest Number 2759
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                .html In a message dated 3/31/2007 2:15:24 AM Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


                They have done a great deal of harm by their pretense that a quick 100 name petition actually got Fox to release extended Battle.  We all know how long it takes to put a DVD release together and in the time it took to make the petition there just wasn't enough time.  Someone got the word they were releasing Extended Battle and they drummed up the petition to make themselves look important


                *** Concerning that extended BATTLE: All I can say is that I had been asking FOX to release it for several years before it was ever released... I really doubt my asking for it had any impact on their releasing it... Sure, it may have drawn some attention to it (a big maybe on that) but still, I think they really released it as part of a "draw card" to their re-released DVDs...



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                Group: potadg Message: 44394 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2777
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                .html In a message dated 3/31/2007 11:00:24 AM Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


                Or do you think it will help matters to make a public attack


                *** In all fairness, from what I've read so far, I can't say that Rich really made an attack on anybody...



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                Group: potadg Message: 44395 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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                -- Sorry, April 1st and all that... :-)
                 
                Neil
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DONNA SPIRES
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 10:12 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

                Oh My!!!

                .

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                Group: potadg Message: 44396 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: Indigest Number 2759
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                -- Exactly what I thought at the time.
                 
                Neil
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 12:22 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Indigest Number 2759

                 I think they really released it as part of a "draw card" to their re-released DVDs...
                .

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                Group: potadg Message: 44397 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!
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                --Thanks.
                 
                Neil
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DONNA SPIRES
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 10:23 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Monkey Planet TV mini-series is happening!!!

                I agree. That is a good one. You certainly got me on that one. April
                Fool!

                .

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                Group: potadg Message: 44398 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777
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                He claims we attack their group and they are innocents.
                 
                Call it what you want.
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 12:25 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777

                In a message dated 3/31/2007 11:00:24 AM Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:


                Or do you think it will help matters to make a public attack


                *** In all fairness, from what I've read so far, I can't say that Rich really made an attack on anybody...



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                Group: potadg Message: 44399 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/1/2007
                Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777
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                .html In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:21:42 PM Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


                He claims we attack their group and they are innocents.


                ** Well, I went back and reread the posts... I did see the part you're talking about, so I stand corrected...



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                Group: potadg Message: 44400 From: DONNA SPIRES Date: 4/1/2007
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                Oh yeah! I did not expect you to trick us twice. ;-)

                Donna

                >From: "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...>
                >Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                >To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                >Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture
                >Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 13:09:30 +1000
                >
                >-- Sorry, April 1st and all that... :-)
                >
                >Neil
                >
                >
                >-----Original Message-----
                >From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
                >Of DONNA SPIRES
                >Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 10:12 AM
                >To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                >Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture
                >
                >
                >
                >Oh My!!!
                >
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                Group: potadg Message: 44401 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777
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                That's OK Mike we all make mistakes.
                 
                And it is nice that you know you CAN speak your mind.  Would you care to share with the group the reason you are not on the other" group now?
                 
                Michael
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 1:32 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777

                In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:21:42 PM Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:


                He claims we attack their group and they are innocents.


                ** Well, I went back and reread the posts... I did see the part you're talking about, so I stand corrected...



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                Group: potadg Message: 44402 From: Rich Handley Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
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                >Posted by: "Michael Whitty" whitty@... mike_oz2002
                >Speaking of childish and immature....notice what I said Neil, that Rich
                >refuses to respond to anything I say?
                >How childish is that?


                What the heck? No I haven't. I simply responded to Neil's comments
                first, then followed my own vow not to continue the discussion
                by...well...not continuing the discussion. No refusal to respond
                involved. As MLCougar said, I'm not attacking anyone. Forget I said anything.
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                Group: potadg Message: 44403 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
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                The discussion has begun Rich.
                 
                So long as we are polite and don't insult each other I see no reason to stop it.
                 
                I know you feel I was antagonistic on the Spanish Apes group but I'm sorry - I disagree.
                 
                I'd actually, finally, like to say something about all that an give you a chance to re-think.
                 
                MIchael
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 9:09 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2817


                >Posted by: "Michael Whitty" whitty@cyberone. com.au mike_oz2002
                >Speaking of childish and immature.... notice what I said Neil, that Rich
                >refuses to respond to anything I say?
                >How childish is that?

                What the heck? No I haven't. I simply responded to Neil's comments
                first, then followed my own vow not to continue the discussion
                by...well... not continuing the discussion. No refusal to respond
                involved. As MLCougar said, I'm not attacking anyone. Forget I

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                Group: potadg Message: 44404 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
                .html
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                Sorry if I am wrong Rich but I promise you - I have asked you a variety of questions in months past and you have ignored me as if I do not exist.
                 
                Again I am sorry if I am mistaken.
                 
                Michael
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 9:09 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2817


                >Posted by: "Michael Whitty" whitty@cyberone. com.au mike_oz2002
                >Speaking of childish and immature.... notice what I said Neil, that Rich
                >refuses to respond to anything I say?
                >How childish is that?

                What the heck? No I haven't. I simply responded to Neil's comments
                first, then followed my own vow not to continue the discussion
                by...well... not continuing the discussion. No refusal to respond
                involved. As MLCougar said, I'm not attacking anyone. Forget I

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                Group: potadg Message: 44405 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777
                .html
                .html Message
                I imagine they really hate it too.  They just are not very honest.
                 
                Michael
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
                Sent: Sunday, 1 April 2007 5:00 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: {Spam?} Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2777

                In a message dated 3/31/2007 10:59:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:
                Or do you think it will help matters to make a public attack?
                 
                That's a good question.
                Obviously they don't find our criticism constructive,
                or they would have stuck around.  But since they
                bailed I can't see how it can hurt.  Must be nice
                though to have time to polish that turd.  But I don't
                have the time to listen to it, so I can't tell if it's getting
                any better.  Can't take "The Others'" word for it.  They
                think it's great! I wonder what they would think is terrible.
                 




                See what's free at AOL.com.
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                Group: potadg Message: 44406 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
                .html
                .html Message
                So Rich, while I have your attention, let me just ask you something.
                 
                You will recall the Spanish Apes group was a group of people I assembled as a team to translate the Argentinian comics to English?
                 
                I bought the comics (and paid an awful lot for them) and I even asked the group if they wanted to contribute to the costs so I could get them and share.
                 
                Dave Ballard said he would scan the comics and enter the translated English text into them.
                 
                You said you would translate.
                 
                And so it went.
                 
                Now, I'm kind of a hippie in philosophy (or I try to be).  I try not to carry on about ownership and I try to share everything I have.  Is that Communism?  Anyway, that's why I feel somewhat awkward when I say:

                "I bought the comics and assembled the team, so I have the final say."
                 
                Now, as awkward as this makes me feel - I think it is fair.
                 
                So here's the question - is it fair for me to say that I paid for 'em and assembled the team, so if I feel someone's dragging his/her ass I can replace them?
                 
                This is the basis of my opinion that I was treated incredibly unfairly so I would like you to answer this.  Neil, and anyone else here who was also involved, would you please tell me what you think too please?
                 
                You see the problem for me was that the project seemed to have been abandoned, and I had other people waiting in the wings who were just as capable.  For example, Neil had originally wanted to do the scanning and scripting (as you will he he did with Monkey Planet and did a far better job than Ballard did on Spanish Apes IMHO).  But I allowed Dave to do it.  It was not a sinister punishment that I wanted to give someone else a go, but that is how it was painted.
                 
                Funnily enough, I paid for the comics, sent them straight to Dave, and I have not seen them.  He claims to have sent them to me but if he did I never received them.
                 
                Michael
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 9:09 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2817


                >Posted by: "Michael Whitty" whitty@cyberone. com.au mike_oz2002
                >Speaking of childish and immature.... notice what I said Neil, that Rich
                >refuses to respond to anything I say?
                >How childish is that?

                What the heck? No I haven't. I simply responded to Neil's comments
                first, then followed my own vow not to continue the discussion
                by...well... not continuing the discussion. No refusal to respond
                involved. As MLCougar said, I'm not attacking anyone. Forget I

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                Group: potadg Message: 44407 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: New PotaDG member
                .html
                Welcome Apehead!

                I hear you have a mean MEGO collection?

                Michael

                -----Original Message-----
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                Behalf Of Yahoo! Groups Notification
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 11:13 PM
                To: PotaDG-owner@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: New PotaDG member



                Hello,

                This is an automated email message to let you know that apehead65
                <apehead65@...> joined your PotaDG
                group.

                Your group is currently configured to send you email notification whenever a
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                Group: potadg Message: 44408 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                .html
                Hello,

                This email message is a notification to let you know that
                a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
                group.

                File : /DVD Cover Ideas /BW dvd cvr idea 002.jpg
                Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
                Description :

                You can access this file at the URL:
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/DVD%20Cover%20Ideas%20/BW%20dvd%20cvr%20idea%20002.jpg

                To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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                Group: potadg Message: 44409 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                .html
                Hello,

                This email message is a notification to let you know that
                a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
                group.

                File : /DVD Cover Ideas /BW dvd cvr idea 004.jpg
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                Description :

                You can access this file at the URL:
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/DVD%20Cover%20Ideas%20/BW%20dvd%20cvr%20idea%20004.jpg

                To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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                Regards,

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                Group: potadg Message: 44410 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                .html
                Hello,

                This email message is a notification to let you know that
                a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
                group.

                File : /DVD Cover Ideas /BW dvd cvr idea 003.jpg
                Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
                Description :

                You can access this file at the URL:
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/DVD%20Cover%20Ideas%20/BW%20dvd%20cvr%20idea%20003.jpg

                To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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                Regards,

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                Group: potadg Message: 44411 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                .html
                Hello,

                This email message is a notification to let you know that
                a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
                group.

                File : /DVD Cover Ideas /BW dvd cvr idea 001.jpg
                Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
                Description :

                You can access this file at the URL:
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/DVD%20Cover%20Ideas%20/BW%20dvd%20cvr%20idea%20001.jpg

                To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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                Regards,

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                Group: potadg Message: 44412 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                .html
                Hello,

                This email message is a notification to let you know that
                a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
                group.

                File : /DVD Cover Ideas /BW dvd cvr idea 005.jpg
                Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
                Description :

                You can access this file at the URL:
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/DVD%20Cover%20Ideas%20/BW%20dvd%20cvr%20idea%20005.jpg

                To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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                Group: potadg Message: 44413 From: Neil Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                .html
                -- Just wanted to let everyone know that I have just spent half my
                lifetime transferring folders and files from the Photos groups back to
                the DG. ;-)
                We now have much more storage space here and it is better to have
                everything on the same group. I haven't quite finished but I need a
                break! The rest of the stuff will be added over the next few days.

                Whilst going through files I also found some DVD cover ideas that I
                had previously only uploaded as rough pencil sketches but had since
                tidied up and added proper titles to etc. These have now been uploaded
                to the DVD Cover Ideas Folder.

                Cheers,

                Neil


                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
                >
                >
                > Hello,
                >
                > This email message is a notification to let you know that
                > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
                > group.
                >
                > File : /DVD Cover Ideas /BW dvd cvr idea 003.jpg
                > Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
                > Description :
                >
                > You can access this file at the URL:
                >
                http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/DVD%20Cover%20Ideas%20/BW%20dvd%20cvr%20idea%20003.jpg

                >
                > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
                > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
                >
                > Regards,
                >
                > munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
                >
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                Group: potadg Message: 44414 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Serenity . . . again? Must have been the same poll!
                .html
                .html

                Film classic Star Wars has lost its crown as the world's best sci-fi movie.

                George Lucas's Star Wars debut has been usurped by the little-known 2005 title Serenity in a poll of sci-fi favourites.

                Blade Runner, starring Harrison Ford, is third, following 1977 classic Star Wars.

                Planet Of The Apes scoops fourth place, followed by Keanu Reeves's film The Matrix and Sigourney Weaver's Alien.

                Others in the top ten include Fifties classic Forbidden Planet, Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, and The Terminator, which launched Arnold Schwarzenegger's career.

                The Michael J Fox time-travelling classic Back to the Future takes tenth place in the SFX magazine poll of 3,000 fans.

                Serenity, about the crew of a spaceship of the same name, was a spin-off from a short-lived US TV series.

                SFX magazine editor Dave Bradley said: "Seeing Serenity topple Star Wars as the UK's favourite sci-fi movie is a massive surprise.

                "The TV show may have been cancelled, yet the Serenity universe clearly struck a chord with fans, thanks to its likeable characters, witty dialogue and amazing special effects.

                "Our list features some really classic movies, many of which, like Serenity, launched to no praise or applause at the box office, but have lived on for many years thanks to the fans, and continue to influence today's films and TV."





                See what's free at AOL.com.
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                Group: potadg Message: 44415 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
                .html
                .html Message
                Can you please send a link for these specific DVD covers?
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 11:57 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

                -- Just wanted to let everyone know that I have just spent half my
                lifetime transferring folders and files from the Photos groups back to
                the DG. ;-)
                We now have much more storage space here and it is better to have
                everything on the same group. I haven't quite finished but I need a
                break! The rest of the stuff will be added over the next few days.

                Whilst going through files I also found some DVD cover ideas that I
                had previously only uploaded as rough pencil sketches but had since
                tidied up and added proper titles to etc. These have now been uploaded
                to the DVD Cover Ideas Folder.

                Cheers,

                Neil

                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, PotaDG@yahoogroups. com wrote:
                >
                >
                > Hello,
                >
                > This email message is a notification to let you know that
                > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
                > group.
                >
                > File : /DVD Cover Ideas /BW dvd cvr idea 003.jpg
                > Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@.. .>
                > Description :
                >
                > You can access this file at the URL:
                >
                http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/PotaDG/ files/DVD% 20Cover%20Ideas% 20/BW%20dvd% 20cvr%20idea% 20003.jpg

                >
                > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
                > http://help. yahoo.com/ help/us/groups/ files
                >
                > Regards,
                >
                > munkeyman63au

                <.html
                Group: potadg Message: 44416 From: rassmguy Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
                .html
                No problem. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was ignoring you. That
                wasn't the case -- I have so little time to spend on e-mail these
                days that I tend to skim what's posted and probably didn't see your
                questions.

                I did see your posts of the past day, but out of respect for the
                group, I felt it best that I drop the issue and retract my statement
                rather than cause further tension, and I still feel that way.

                Before this whole incident of the past few days, what other questions
                have youn asked me? If you recall what they were, feel free to ask
                them again.




                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
                >
                > Sorry if I am wrong Rich but I promise you - I have asked you a
                variety of
                > questions in months past and you have ignored me as if I do not
                exist.
                >
                > Again I am sorry if I am mistaken.
                >
                > Michael
                >
                >
                > -----Original Message-----
                > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
                Behalf Of
                > Rich Handley
                > Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 9:09 PM
                > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2817
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > >Posted by: "Michael Whitty" whitty@cyberone.
                > <mailto:whitty%40cyberone.com.au> com.au mike_oz2002
                > >Speaking of childish and immature....notice what I said Neil, that
                Rich
                > >refuses to respond to anything I say?
                > >How childish is that?
                >
                > What the heck? No I haven't. I simply responded to Neil's comments
                > first, then followed my own vow not to continue the discussion
                > by...well...not continuing the discussion. No refusal to respond
                > involved. As MLCougar said, I'm not attacking anyone. Forget I said
                > anything.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > --
                >
                <.html
                Group: potadg Message: 44417 From: rassmguy Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
                .html
                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
                > The discussion has begun Rich.
                > So long as we are polite and don't insult each other I see no reason
                to stop it.
                > I know you feel I was antagonistic on the Spanish Apes group but I'm
                sorry - I disagree.
                > I'd actually, finally, like to say something about all that an give
                you a chance to re-think.
                > MIchael


                I'm certainly not averse to discussing it politely, Michael, but I
                think we should do so off the group, so as not to drag everyone else
                through what is now a dispute that is several years old and getting
                foggier by the day in my near-40-year-old brain. I try not to be a
                hypocrite, and after promising Neil I'd stop discussing it here, I
                believe I should honor that promise.
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                Group: potadg Message: 44418 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
                .html
                .html Message
                I understand your sentiments Rich - but when we have people like Chris Lawless indoctrinating individuals by telling them I'm the kind of guy who makes up stuff like being told I could have a tumour on my brain, I think we should finally get the fact of the matter on PUBLIC record.
                 
                I don't expect you to understand, but I think you would if you were in the same position where someone is badmouthing you by lying to others and successfully turning people against you because of it.
                 
                Neil will excuse you from keeping your promise this time I'm sure...right Neil?

                Michael
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
                Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2007 7:39 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Digest Number 2817

                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
                > The discussion has begun Rich.
                > So long as we are polite and don't insult each other I see no reason
                to stop it.
                > I know you feel I was antagonistic on the Spanish Apes group but I'm
                sorry - I disagree.
                > I'd actually, finally, like to say something about all that an give
                you a chance to re-think.
                > MIchael

                I'm certainly not averse to discussing it politely, Michael, but I
                think we should do so off the group, so as not to drag everyone else
                through what is now a dispute that is several years old and getting
                foggier by the day in my near-40-year- old brain. I try not to be a
                hypocrite, and after promising Neil I'd stop discussing it

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                Group: potadg Message: 44419 From: rassmguy Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
                .html
                Actually, there is one point, Mike, that I do want to address --
                namely, my lack of contribution. While it's true that I don't have
                much time to post, I do feel I have contributed to POTA fandom.
                Translating those Spanish comics was a lot of work (but worth it),
                and I tracked down and purchased the elusive seventh issue so we
                could complete the set. I also created my timeline website for fans
                to read, which was a herculean task that took a few years, and I
                encourage visitors to my site to join both POTA Yahoogroups. So
                while I don't have the time I wish I had to discuss POTA, or to be as
                active in fandom as folks like you, Neil, Greg, Kass, Hunter and the
                Simian Scrolls team have over the years, I like to think I've
                contributed and given something back in my own way. I'm pretty proud
                of my timeline, and of the work we did on the Spanish comics -- I
                think they came out great, and I'm happy to have copies of the
                translated versions in my colletion, right alongside the Spanish
                originals, which I bought from a guy in Argentina (that's how I got
                #7).



                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
                >
                > No problem. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was ignoring you. That
                > wasn't the case -- I have so little time to spend on e-mail these
                > days that I tend to skim what's posted and probably didn't see your
                > questions.
                >
                > I did see your posts of the past day, but out of respect for the
                > group, I felt it best that I drop the issue and retract my
                statement
                > rather than cause further tension, and I still feel that way.
                >
                > Before this whole incident of the past few days, what other
                questions
                > have youn asked me? If you recall what they were, feel free to ask
                > them again.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@> wrote:
                > >
                > > Sorry if I am wrong Rich but I promise you - I have asked you a
                > variety of
                > > questions in months past and you have ignored me as if I do not
                > exist.
                > >
                > > Again I am sorry if I am mistaken.
                > >
                > > Michael
                > >
                > >
                > > -----Original Message-----
                > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
                > Behalf Of
                > > Rich Handley
                > > Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 9:09 PM
                > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2817
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > >Posted by: "Michael Whitty" whitty@cyberone.
                > > <mailto:whitty%40cyberone.com.au> com.au mike_oz2002
                > > >Speaking of childish and immature....notice what I said Neil,
                that
                > Rich
                > > >refuses to respond to anything I say?
                > > >How childish is that?
                > >
                > > What the heck? No I haven't. I simply responded to Neil's
                comments
                > > first, then followed my own vow not to continue the discussion
                > > by...well...not continuing the discussion. No refusal to respond
                > > involved. As MLCougar said, I'm not attacking anyone. Forget I
                said
                > > anything.
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > --
                > >
                >
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                Group: potadg Message: 44420 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Serenity . . . again? Must have been the same poll!
                .html
                .html Message
                -- Really? Makes you wonder what sort of idiots, sorry I mean people, vote in these things.
                 
                Neil
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
                Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2007 3:09 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Serenity . . . again? Must have been the same poll!

                Film classic Star Wars has lost its crown as the world's best sci-fi movie.

                George Lucas's Star Wars debut has been usurped by the little-known 2005 title Serenity in a poll of sci-fi favourites.

                Blade Runner, starring Harrison Ford, is third, following 1977 classic Star Wars.

                Planet Of The Apes scoops fourth place, followed by Keanu Reeves's film The Matrix and Sigourney Weaver's Alien.

                Others in the top ten include Fifties classic Forbidden Planet, Stanley Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, and The Terminator, which launched Arnold Schwarzenegger' s career.

                The Michael J Fox time-travelling classic Back to the Future takes tenth place in the SFX magazine poll of 3,000 fans.

                 

                <.html
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                Group: potadg Message: 44421 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Re: Digest Number 2817
                .html
                .html Message
                -- I personally thought you had every right to make decisions and ask questions especially when things seemed to have stalled. It worked fine with 'Beast'. Other people even questioned on the group why things were suddenly going slower than they had been.
                I don't think it was right for people working on the project to get the hump and tell you they would only work at their pace as they were doing it for free and out of the goodness of their hearts as after all it was decided before the project began that there was a timeline involved and a desire to get the comics out there and available for the fans. For the first few issues it worked fine and even Alan Maxwell, whom we were told was not to be relied upon to get something completed, did a great job getting the covers cleaned and fixed up and only slowed down that one time when his mouse was stuffed and had to be replaced or something like that.
                And like you say you had other people lined up to do the various 'jobs' and when you mentioned that it seems to me to have caused a couple of them to really get the shits.
                 
                Neil
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
                Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 11:29 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2817

                So here's the question - is it fair for me to say that I paid for 'em and assembled the team, so if I feel someone's dragging his/her ass I can replace them?
                 
                This is the basis of my opinion that I was treated incredibly unfairly so I would like you to answer this.  Neil, and anyone else here who was also involved, would you please tell me what you think too please?
                .

                <.html
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                Group: potadg Message: 44422 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/2/2007
                Subject: Contributions
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                Yes I totally agrees Rich - you have certainly done your bit and that's far more than many have.
                 
                Sorry if I used the wrong words, but I was specifically referring to my perception that you have not contributed much to the POTADG recently.  That's your choice I know but it is my perception that you have not been taking the time to contribute to posts and when it all comes down to it....again you probably do contribute more than most.
                 
                I guess I was angry that - as a snapshot - you have recently only posted about once a month, but you do take the time to accuse me (ot the DG or whatever) of being unfair to poor old James and Schmutz.  I guess you would agree it would have been far more effective had you ignored your urge to comment and maybe just started up a new thread?
                 
                I guess that's another frustration - what's left to talk about.
                 
                As a factual observation, not necessarily a criticism - I was lurking on the POTA group recently and I noticed how they have dredged up really old threads that have been discussed to death.  Maybe we do that here too and as I said I am not judging - it could be a good thing.  But there are no new fans!  Just the same tired old bastards saying the same tired old things and what for?  WHO for?

                Anyway Rich in summary it is patenly unfiar of me to say you have not cintributed to POTA fandom and I apologise.  I really was just talking about recent times, and contextually making a comparison to what I would have hoped you WOULD have used up your posting energy doing!  :)  Sorry mate.

                Michael
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
                Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2007 8:03 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Digest Number 2817

                Actually, there is one point, Mike, that I do want to address --
                namely, my lack of contribution. While it's true that I don't have
                much time to post, I do feel I have contributed to POTA fandom.
                Translating those Spanish comics was a lot of work (but worth it),
                and I tracked down and purchased the elusive seventh issue so we
                could complete the set. I also created my timeline website for fans
                to read, which was a herculean task that took a few years, and I
                encourage visitors to my site to join both POTA Yahoogroups. So
                while I don't have the time I wish I had to discuss POTA, or to be as
                active in fandom as folks like you, Neil, Greg, Kass, Hunter and the
                Simian Scrolls team have over the years, I like to think I've
                contributed and given something back in my own way. I'm pretty proud
                of my timeline, and of the work we did on the Spanish comics -- I
                think they came out great, and I'm happy to have copies of the
                translated versions in my colletion, right alongside the Spanish
                originals, which I bought from a guy in Argentina (that's how I got
                #7).

                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@.. .> wrote:
                >
                > No problem. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was ignoring you. That
                > wasn't the case -- I have so little time to spend on e-mail these
                > days that I tend to skim what's posted and probably didn't see your
                > questions.
                >
                > I did see your posts of the past day, but out of respect for the
                > group, I felt it best that I drop the issue and retract my
                statement
                > rather than cause further tension, and I still feel that way.
                >
                > Before this whole incident of the past few days, what other
                questions
                > have youn asked me? If you recall what they were, feel free to ask
                > them again.
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@> wrote:
                > >
                > > Sorry if I am wrong Rich but I promise you - I have asked you a
                > variety of
                > > questions in months past and you have ignored me as if I do not
                > exist.
                > >
                > > Again I am sorry if I am mistaken.
                > >
                > > Michael
                > >
                > >
                > > -----Original Message-----
                > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
                > Behalf Of
                > > Rich Handley
                > > Sent: Monday, 2 April 2007 9:09 PM
                > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2817
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > >Posted by: "Michael Whitty" whitty@cyberone.
                > > <mailto:whitty% 40cyberone. com.au> com.au mike_oz2002
                > > >Speaking of childish and immature.... notice what I said Neil,
                that
                > Rich
                > > >refuses to respond to anything I say?
                > > >How childish is that?
                > >
                > > What the heck? No I haven't. I simply responded to Neil's
                comments
                > > first, then followed my own vow not to continue the discussion
                > > by...well... not continuing the discussion. No refusal to respond
                > > involved. As MLCougar said, I'm not attacking anyone. Forget I
                said
                > > anything.
                > >
                > >
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