Dates: 2006-07-17 through 2006-07-23

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Prev   37954	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37955	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 37956	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 37957	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37958	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37959	From: drhasslein	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Theater/Where did you see the Apes films first?
Group: pota	Message: 37960	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Pass the crow.
Group: pota	Message: 37961	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37962	From: kidro85@aol.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
Group: pota	Message: 37963	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37964	From: James	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37965	From: James	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 37966	From: Zachary Scott	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37967	From: James	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
Group: pota	Message: 37968	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Pass the crow.
Group: pota	Message: 37969	From: Todd Mount	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
Group: pota	Message: 37970	From: veetus@earthlink.net	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
Group: pota	Message: 37971	From: veetus@earthlink.net	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Theater/Where did you see the Apes films first?
Group: pota	Message: 37972	From: shanter2002	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Theater/Where did you see the Apes films first?
Group: pota	Message: 37973	From: David Giwner	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 37974	From: David Giwner	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37975	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37976	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
Group: pota	Message: 37977	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 37978	From: Dario	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Simian Scrolls #12
Group: pota	Message: 37979	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37980	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 37981	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 37982	From: kidro85@aol.com	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
Group: pota	Message: 37983	From: shanter2002	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 37984	From: Dave B	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 37985	From: James	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Life to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 37986	From: David Giwner	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 37987	From: David Giwner	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: An Anniversary
Group: pota	Message: 37988	From: Greg Plonowski	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Marvel UK 92
Group: pota	Message: 37989	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Life to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 37990	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 37991	From: Adrian Smith	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: New member
Group: pota	Message: 37992	From: Ben Avery	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Theater/Where did you see the Apes films first?
Group: pota	Message: 37993	From: James	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 37994	From: James	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota	Message: 37995	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Life to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 37996	From: James	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Life to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 37997	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 37998	From: veetus@earthlink.net	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 37999	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death! to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38000	From: James	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38001	From: James	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38002	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38003	From: drhasslein	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38004	From: hotscheetz	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: New member
Group: pota	Message: 38005	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 38006	From: hotscheetz	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38007	From: Tim "apefan"	Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query
Group: pota	Message: 38008	From: Dave B	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Revolution references
Group: pota	Message: 38009	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38010	From: Dave B	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38011	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38012	From: veetus@earthlink.net	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38013	From: veetus@earthlink.net	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: OT: In "Space" no one can hear Eric Greene allegorize
Group: pota	Message: 38014	From: veetus@earthlink.net	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38015	From: James	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38016	From: Ty Templeton	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Revolution references
Group: pota	Message: 38017	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38018	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38019	From: James	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38020	From: Greg Plonowski	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: pota	Message: 38021	From: Hunter Goatley	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: pota	Message: 38022	From: PofTAfan@aol.com	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Life to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38023	From: James	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: pota	Message: 38024	From: thadesdarlinghuman	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Some favorite quotes from Apes
Group: pota	Message: 38025	From: kidro85@aol.com	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: pota	Message: 38026	From: hotscheetz	Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38027	From: Dave B	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: pota	Message: 38028	From: James	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: pota	Message: 38029	From: James	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38030	From: pota@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: New poll for pota
Group: pota	Message: 38031	From: James	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver
Group: pota	Message: 38032	From: hotscheetz	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: pota	Message: 38033	From: hotscheetz	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38034	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline
Group: pota	Message: 38035	From: pota@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: New poll for pota
Group: pota	Message: 38036	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: I prefer not to answer this.
Group: pota	Message: 38037	From: thadesdarlinghuman	Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Planet of the Apes sequel ...
Group: pota	Message: 38038	From: drhasslein	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this.
Group: pota	Message: 38039	From: James	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Top 10 things I'd rather do than watch The Omega Man
Group: pota	Message: 38040	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: pota	Message: 38041	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Some favorite quotes from Apes
Group: pota	Message: 38042	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ...
Group: pota	Message: 38043	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this.
Group: pota	Message: 38044	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: pota	Message: 38045	From: Wendy Kostora	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this.
Group: pota	Message: 38046	From: Wendy Kostora	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ...
Group: pota	Message: 38047	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this.
Group: pota	Message: 38048	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Some favorite quotes from Apes
Group: pota	Message: 38049	From: Mithril1960@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ...
Group: pota	Message: 38050	From: PofTAfan@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ...
Group: pota	Message: 38051	From: drhasslein	Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this.
Group: pota	Message: 38052	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this.
Group: pota	Message: 38053	From: shanter2002	Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd

.html .html I once had a copy of BENEATH on 8MM.    Zach      -------Original Message-------   From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 07/17/06 18:34:28 To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: An Anniversary   In a message dated 7/17/06 6:08:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes: Back in the mid-70's before VHS or Beta the only way you could have an APES film to watch any time you wanted was to buy the crappy 8MM 8 minute films-or own a 'professional'  16MM projector. I had the latter and owned a complete TV version (pan & scan) of  PLANET of the Apes for which I paid $350.00 (about 2 weeks' salary in those days). For several years I amazed my friends with Apes, Dirty Harry, and Disney's Snow White shown in my room,  complete with 'blackout' shades for the windows and a screen. I owned a lot of TV shows, commercials and film trailers, too, including my favorite, a 10-second Conquest TV commercial. I sold them all many years ago. Bruce I had the former (8mm crap) and although I bought a 16mm copy of the trailer for PLANET, which I still have, I never thought to get a 16mm print of the entire movie.  I couldn't have spent that kind of money and now I'm glad I never did.  Prints fade and pan&scan SUCKS! -- Rory   <.html <.html

.html Pirates of the Carib Is playing there. Excellent movie.. Just a suggestion. Dave-NYC. Mithril1960@... wrote: In a message dated 7/18/2006 6:08:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes: I saw the remake at the Ziegfeld which is probably one of the best theaters in NYC. The crowd was very up going in and very down coming out. The best single screen left in NYC. I have a freind whose dying to go, but some of the crap they've showed there recently wasn't Ziegfield worthy.     "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people." V For Vendetta. Groups are talking. We’re listening. Check out the Group: pota Message: 37988 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Marvel UK 92 .html Marvel UK issue 92 is now available on Hunter's site. It features another exciting chapter in the Terror storyline: "Escape From Mt. Rushmore!" Everybody get your berry bombs ready, it's going to be a wild one. There is also a letter column.   https://pota.goatley.com   Greg <.html Group: pota Message: 37989 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Life to the Circular Timeline .html .html  The timeline is circular for the simple FACT that you couldn't help but change things.  Try repeating something you did yesterday and then tell me you'd do it EXACTLY as you'd done it before.  IMPOSSIBLE!   -- Rory     -----Original Message----- From: JamesA1102@... To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 7:39 AM Subject: [POTA] Life to the Circular Timeline John, That would be a valid argument if the Corringtons has written both Escape & Conquest. But they did not, Paul Dehn did. Dehn clearly stated on several occasions that he was writing a circular story through Conquest. All that means is that the Corringtons misinterpeted what Dehn had done before them. Also, the Corringtons' didn't write the final draft of Battle. Dehn rewrote their script and it was his draft that was filmed. So anything the Corringtons thought or said is negligible. They simply did not have the final say, Dehn did. --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote: > > In their first draft for Battle--'Epic of the Planet of the Apes'-- the > Corrington's set the scene on the first page, explaining that the > Lawgiver will speak differently to how previously portrayed and that > this 'difference and others to be noted is due to the alterations of > that historical track which we have seen worked out in previous > films.The central story details these changes in ape history which are > due primarily to the influence of Caesar on Apes and humans'. > So, the Timeline is not circular, it's been changed. That ends that > debate.John, Scrolls. > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 37990 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html This debate will never end as long as certain humans are allowed to continue to live -- without frontal lobotomies!   -- Dr. Zaius      -----Original Message----- From: john@... To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 3:30 AM Subject: [POTA] Death to the Circular Timeline In their first draft for Battle--'Epic of the Planet of the Apes'--the Corrington's set the scene on the first page, explaining that the Lawgiver will speak differently to how previously portrayed and that this 'difference and others to be noted is due to the alterations of that historical track which we have seen worked out in previous films.The central story details these changes in ape history which are due primarily to the influence of Caesar on Apes and humans'. So, the Timeline is not circular, it's been changed. That ends that debate.John, Scrolls. Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 37991 From: Adrian Smith Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: New member .html Hi all. Just thought I'd introduce myself. I've been a fan of everything Ape for about as long as I can remember. I'm sure you can imagine my excitement when I saw the fantastic Ape head set. "There's no way I can ever afford that" I thought, as it retails over here for £150. But then I saw a few weeks ago that Deep Discount DVD had it for only £45! I was so excited I nearly wet myself. I'd only just bought the Apes six disc boxset, but I didn't care. I had to have that head! So now I wait for the momentous morning when the postman will knock with a rather large box. I'm going to have to pay VAT (thanks Customs and Excise) but it will still only work out at about £60, which in my opinion is still a bargain! To complete the experience I also ordered the Planet of the Apes Revisited book from Amazon, so I'm looking forward to that any day. This summer is the Summer of the Apes for me! I'm looking forward to getting involved in some good discussions with you all and finding out all sorts of cool stuff I didn't know. Bye for now! ----------------------------------------------------------------- <.html Group: pota Message: 37992 From: Ben Avery Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Favorite Theater/Where did you see the Apes films first? .html I first saw Planet in October of 1967 at the Hollywood Theater in North Bay, Ontario. I remember that day like it was yesterday, because it was the day after my brithday and there was a total eclipse of the sun in Brazil. At least I think so. I'm sure someone here can set that straight for me . . . Seven years later, I was born and . . . Anyway -- I actually saw Planet of the Apes for the first time on the Saturday afternoon movie that played on one of the three TV stations we got in Sundridge, Ontario. I caught bits and pieces of all of them. i was six or seven or eight -- somewhere in there. But the BEST showing I got to see was when I saw the Planet restoration at the Egyptian theater in LA. Heston was there and answered questions from hte audience and from the host. One question I remember vividly was why he went from playing characters like Moses and Ben-Hur in serious big budget films to playing roles in Planet of the Apes and Omega Man. I remember the question vividly. Not so much the answer. His answer was something like he did it because it was fun. Ben <.html Group: pota Message: 37993 From: James Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html As my grandfather use to say, "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"! --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > This debate will never end as long as certain humans are allowed to continue to live -- without frontal lobotomies! > > -- Dr. Zaius > <.html Group: pota Message: 37994 From: James Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: New member .html Welcome Adrian, Be sure to check out all the group's features. Links should appear at the bottom of this email. Also check out Hunter's website: https://pota.goatley.com/ and Kassidy's site: https://pota.v.kassidyrae.com/ for more great & rare POTA stuff. You've joined the group at a really great time. We're about to begin a contest where a lucky member will get a rare POTA item. Stay tuned. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Smith <trouserpressbaby@...> wrote: > > Hi all. Just thought I'd introduce myself. I've been a > fan of everything Ape for about as long as I can > remember. I'm sure you can imagine my excitement when > I saw the fantastic Ape head set. "There's no way I > can ever afford that" I thought, as it retails over > here for £150. But then I saw a few weeks ago that > Deep Discount DVD had it for only £45! I was so > excited I nearly wet myself. I'd only just bought the > Apes six disc boxset, but I didn't care. I had to have > that head! So now I wait for the momentous morning > when the postman will knock with a rather large box. > I'm going to have to pay VAT (thanks Customs and > Excise) but it will still only work out at about £60, > which in my opinion is still a bargain! > > To complete the experience I also ordered the Planet > of the Apes Revisited book from Amazon, so I'm looking > forward to that any day. This summer is the Summer of > the Apes for me! > > I'm looking forward to getting involved in some good > discussions with you all and finding out all sorts of > cool stuff I didn't know. > > Bye for now! > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > <.html Group: pota Message: 37995 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Life to the Circular Timeline .html .html In a message dated 7/19/2006 10:35:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes: Dehn clearly stated on several occasions that he was writing a circular story through Conquest. All that means is that the Corringtons misinterpeted what Dehn had done before them. How come Paul himself didn't write Battle?     "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people." V For Vendetta. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 37996 From: James Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Life to the Circular Timeline .html Dehn wrote the original treatment for Battle. It's on Hunter's site if you want to read it. That treatment was rejected by FOX and Jacobs as too dark and he was asked to do a rewrite. However, Dehn was ill at the time and unable to do the rewrite. The Corringtons were brought in to do a new treatment (also on Hunter's site). While very different from Dehn's treatment, it did retain many of the same elements, characters and plot points as Dehn's original. The Corringtons were then commissioned to write the full script. But when it was delivered, J. Lee Thompson & Jacobs were unhappy with it and the Corringtons were fired. By this time Dehn had recovered and was hired to rewrite the Corringtons script. Unfortunately, due to the oddities of the Writer's Guild rules, the Corringtons were given screenplay credit while Dehn was given story credit on the film when it should have been the other way around. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote: > > > > How come Paul himself didn't write Battle? > <.html Group: pota Message: 37997 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query .html .html In a message dated 7/19/2006 11:23:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, bikergator25@... writes: I did not know that...  Great voice... Dave-NYC Yeah he was one of the last good ones left... Bruce <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 37998 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html   This debate is like the debate in the Middle East over interpretations of certain books. The only thing that's circular is debates!  - - - Jeff   ----- Original Message ----- From: Haristas@... To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [POTA] Death to the Circular Timeline This debate will never end as long as certain humans are allowed to continue to live -- without frontal lobotomies!   -- Dr. Zaius      -----Original Message----- From: john@... To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 3:30 AM Subject: [POTA] Death to the Circular Timeline In their first draft for Battle--'Epic of the Planet of the Apes'--the Corrington's set the scene on the first page, explaining that the Lawgiver will speak differently to how previously portrayed and that this 'difference and others to be noted is due to the alterations of that historical track which we have seen worked out in previous films.The central story details these changes in ape history which are due primarily to the influence of Caesar on Apes and humans'. So, the Timeline is not circular, it's been changed. That ends that debate.John, Scrolls. Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 37999 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Death! to the Circular Timeline .html .html  Dehn wrote the original treatment for Battle. It's on Hunter's site if you want to read it. That treatment was rejected by FOX and Jacobs as too dark and he was asked to do a rewrite. However, Dehn was ill at the time and unable to do the rewrite. The Corringtons were brought in to do a new treatment (also on Hunter's site). While very different from Dehn's treatment, it did retain many of the same elements, characters and plot points as Dehn's original. The Corringtons were then commissioned to write the full script. But when it was delivered, J. Lee Thompson & Jacobs were unhappy with it and the Corringtons were fired. By this time Dehn had recovered and was hired to rewrite the Corringtons script. Unfortunately, due to the oddities of the Writer's Guild rules, the Corringtons were given screenplay credit while Dehn was given story credit on the film when it should have been the other way around.     And the end result?   Let's just say it was... "like something that fell out of a tree."   Or rather... like something that fell out of Aldo's butt as he fell out of that tree!   -- Rory Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38000 From: James Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html You are correct sir! LOL --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote: > > > Somehow, I doubt it :0) > > Dave > <.html Group: pota Message: 38001 From: James Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html Very, very true! --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote: > > This debate is like the debate in the Middle East over interpretations of certain books. The only thing that's circular is debates! - - - Jeff > <.html Group: pota Message: 38002 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html In a message dated 7/19/2006 5:51:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JamesA1102@... writes: You are correct sir! LOL Hey that's MY line! Actually, Ed Mac Mahon's. Bruce <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38003 From: drhasslein Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html This debate is like the debate in the Middle East over interpretations of certain books. The only thing that's circular is debates! - - - Jeff All my life's a circle Sunrise and sundown The moon rolls through the night time Till the daybreak comes around -Harry Chapin <.html Group: pota Message: 38004 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: New member .html Welcome Adrian...Glad to have you aboard... G --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Smith <trouserpressbaby@...> wrote: > > Hi all. Just thought I'd introduce myself. I've been a > fan of everything Ape for about as long as I can > remember. I'm sure you can imagine my excitement when > I saw the fantastic Ape head set. "There's no way I > can ever afford that" I thought, as it retails over > here for £150. But then I saw a few weeks ago that > Deep Discount DVD had it for only £45! I was so > excited I nearly wet myself. I'd only just bought the > Apes six disc boxset, but I didn't care. I had to have > that head! So now I wait for the momentous morning > when the postman will knock with a rather large box. > I'm going to have to pay VAT (thanks Customs and > Excise) but it will still only work out at about £60, > which in my opinion is still a bargain! > > To complete the experience I also ordered the Planet > of the Apes Revisited book from Amazon, so I'm looking > forward to that any day. This summer is the Summer of > the Apes for me! > > I'm looking forward to getting involved in some good > discussions with you all and finding out all sorts of > cool stuff I didn't know. > > Bye for now! > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > <.html Group: pota Message: 38005 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query .html Thanks James! --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote: > There's an MP3 in the Group's File Section: > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/return-apes.mp3 > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" > <apefan23@...> wrote: > > > > I have a Return question too....Has the Return > theme song been turned > into an MP3 file anywhere? Hunter? Kass? Is it on > any site? > > Thanks, > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > <.html Group: pota Message: 38006 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html You know, if everyone would just agree with me, this debate would be over...=) G --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote: > > In their first draft for Battle--'Epic of the Planet of the Apes'-- the > Corrington's set the scene on the first page, explaining that the > Lawgiver will speak differently to how previously portrayed and that > this 'difference and others to be noted is due to the alterations of > that historical track which we have seen worked out in previous > films.The central story details these changes in ape history which are > due primarily to the influence of Caesar on Apes and humans'. > So, the Timeline is not circular, it's been changed. That ends that > debate.John, Scrolls. > <.html Group: pota Message: 38007 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/19/2006 Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes Query .html Although! I was trying to add it to my list of Apes music to burn a CD of and it would load into iTunes but it wouldn't burn...anybody have a suggestion? --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote: > Thanks James! > > --- James <JamesA1102@...> wrote: > > > There's an MP3 in the Group's File Section: > > > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/return-apes.mp3 > > > > > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" > > <apefan23@...> wrote: > > > > > > I have a Return question too....Has the Return > > theme song been turned > > into an MP3 file anywhere? Hunter? Kass? Is it on > > any site? > > > Thanks, > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <.html Group: pota Message: 38008 From: Dave B Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Revolution references .html Calling Ty, In Revolution 5 there are references to Mount Rushmore and Fort Liberty were these subtle nods to the Marvel comics (Lightsmith's home)and the PC game (where Ulysess finds the Presidential bomb shelter)? Dave B <.html Group: pota Message: 38009 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html In a message dated 7/19/2006 5:04:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:   This debate is like the debate in the Middle East over interpretations of certain books. The only thing that's circular is debates!  - - - Jeff   Uh oh! I think I smell a POTA Civil War brewing. The Circulars against the Set. Who will win this bloody battle? What can we call the movie; CIVIL WAR ON THE PLANET OF THE APES?     "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people." V For Vendetta. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38010 From: Dave B Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote: > Uh oh! I think I smell a POTA Civil War brewing. History shows it could be anything but civil :0) Jeff said it best when he said something like 'The only true answer is the one that pleases the individual.' Dave <.html Group: pota Message: 38011 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html   In a message dated 7/19/2006 5:04:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:   This debate is like the debate in the Middle East over interpretations of certain books. The only thing that's circular is debates!  - - - Jeff   Uh oh! I think I smell a POTA Civil War brewing. The Circulars against the Set. Who will win this bloody battle? What can we call the movie; CIVIL WAR ON THE PLANET OF THE APES?    Dr. Who would tell you there are two timelines!!!   -- Rory   New Message Search Find the message you want faster. Visit your group to try out the improved message search. Share feedback on the new changes to Groups Recent Activity  4 New Members  2 New Photos  1 New Links Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS Science fiction dvd Planet of the apes Fantasy science fiction magazine Writing science fiction Tv series . Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38012 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html   I'm just afraid that George W. will get involved in this. He'll probably say a circular timeline is the only choice for a moral society. "I'm not saying it will be easy, but a circular timeline will prevail".  - - - Jeff   ----- Original Message ----- From: Haristas@... To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 6:26 AM Subject: [POTA] Re: Death to the Circular Timeline   In a message dated 7/19/2006 5:04:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:   This debate is like the debate in the Middle East over interpretations of certain books. The only thing that's circular is debates!  - - - Jeff   Uh oh! I think I smell a POTA Civil War brewing. The Circulars against the Set. Who will win this bloody battle? What can we call the movie; CIVIL WAR ON THE PLANET OF THE APES?    Dr. Who would tell you there are two timelines!!!   -- Rory   New Message Search Find the message you want faster. Visit your group to try out the improved message search. Share feedback on the new changes to Groups Recent Activity  4 New Members  2 New Photos  1 New Links Visit Your Group SPONSORED LINKS Science fiction dvd Planet of the apes Fantasy science fiction magazine Writing science fiction Tv series . Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38013 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: OT: In "Space" no one can hear Eric Greene allegorize .html .html   www.tvshowsondvd.com says BCI will release the sci-fi show "Space Academy" on DVD in 2007. This starred Jonathan (Dr. Smith) Harris and young Eric Greene as the alien Loki, "everybody's mascot". Back then Eric was just another POTA fan like you and me. It would be 20 more years before he would become the vessel through whom the light of POTA would shine. Looks like there will be extras, maybe the kind of quality Eric Greene extras that POTA fans know well.  Loki action figure not included. - - - Jeff <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38014 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html   The same goes for sex, Dave! - - - Jeff   ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave B To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:46 AM Subject: [POTA] Re: Death to the Circular Timeline --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Mithril1960@ ... wrote: > Uh oh! I think I smell a POTA Civil War brewing. History shows it could be anything but civil :0) Jeff said it best when he said something like 'The only true answer is the one that pleases the individual.' Dave <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38015 From: James Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html Wise man that Jeff! --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote: > > > Jeff said it best when he said something like 'The only true answer is > the one that pleases the individual.' > > Dave > <.html Group: pota Message: 38016 From: Ty Templeton Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Revolution references .html Yup.  We're big fans of all things Apes around Mr. Comics, and were just showing off that we knew more than just the movies.  I almost threw in something from the John Jakes novel, just to REALLY show off. Ty the Guy. On 7/20/06, Dave B <smugster2000@...> wrote: Calling Ty, In Revolution 5 there are references to Mount Rushmore and Fort Liberty were these subtle nods to the Marvel comics (Lightsmith's home)and the PC game (where Ulysess finds the Presidential bomb shelter)? Dave B <.html Group: pota Message: 38017 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html In a message dated 7/20/2006 9:41:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:  Dr. Who would tell you there are two timelines!!! Ah but do we live in the 'real' one or the alternate one?     "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people." V For Vendetta. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38018 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html In a message dated 7/20/2006 10:53:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:   I'm just afraid that George W. will get involved in this. He'll probably say a circular timeline is the only choice for a moral society. "I'm not saying it will be easy, but a circular timeline will prevail".  - - - Jeff George wouldn't approve of Ape Society becuase the apes are smarter than he is on his best day.     "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people." V For Vendetta. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38019 From: James Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html An Apple a day keeps the Doctor away! --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > Dr. Who would tell you there are two timelines!!! > > -- Rory > <.html Group: pota Message: 38020 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html According to www.tvshowsonDVD.com, Fox will release the Return series in a two-disc set on 10/3. You can see the story and the packaging at this link:   http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6088   What's interesting is the final line of the story, which mentions "bonus materials" - episode previews for all episodes except "Flames of Doom" (the first episode, which makes sense). The discs in the Ultimate set don't contain these previews, so these sound like new discs. Of course, we've been fooled by this sort of trick before.   Greg       <.html Group: pota Message: 38021 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html > What's interesting is the final line of the story, which mentions > "bonus materials" - episode previews for all episodes except "Flames > of Doom" (the first episode, which makes sense). Since when did anyone have previews for cartoons, anyway? I certainly don't ever remember seeing any---for any cartoon. Hunter <.html Group: pota Message: 38022 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Life to the Circular Timeline .html .html I don't think that the timeline is circular like some members believe in. I think that the timeline is more of a multi-lane highway(like the DC or Marvel universe). If you look at Planet and Beneath the astronauts that landed on the future earth came from an alternate universe(aka ANSA) but when Zira and Cornelius came to 1973 earth, the president said NASA when he was talking to Hasslein. Watch the Escape DVD and closely listen to the president when he said that the scientist who were going over it were NASA scientists, not ANSA.   Kevin PofTAfan      -----Original Message----- From: JamesA1102@... To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 4:39 AM Subject: [POTA] Life to the Circular Timeline John, That would be a valid argument if the Corringtons has written both Escape & Conquest. But they did not, Paul Dehn did. Dehn clearly stated on several occasions that he was writing a circular story through Conquest. All that means is that the Corringtons misinterpeted what Dehn had done before them. Also, the Corringtons' didn't write the final draft of Battle. Dehn rewrote their script and it was his draft that was filmed. So anything the Corringtons thought or said is negligible. They simply did not have the final say, Dehn did. --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "shanter2002" <john@...> wrote: > > In their first draft for Battle--'Epic of the Planet of the Apes'-- the > Corrington's set the scene on the first page, explaining that the > Lawgiver will speak differently to how previously portrayed and that > this 'difference and others to be noted is due to the alterations of > that historical track which we have seen worked out in previous > films.The central story details these changes in ape history which are > due primarily to the influence of Caesar on Apes and humans'. > So, the Timeline is not circular, it's been changed. That ends that > debate.John, Scrolls. > Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38023 From: James Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html This is great news. I even like the cover. Interesting that this and the Star Trek animated DVD are announced within days of each other. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote: > > According to www.tvshowsonDVD.com, Fox will release the Return series in a two-disc set on 10/3. You can see the story and the packaging at this link: > > http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6088 > > What's interesting is the final line of the story, which mentions "bonus materials" - episode previews for all episodes except "Flames of Doom" (the first episode, which makes sense). The discs in the Ultimate set don't contain these previews, so these sound like new discs. Of course, we've been fooled by this sort of trick before. > > Greg > <.html Group: pota Message: 38024 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Some favorite quotes from Apes .html --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote: > > "You Maniacs... you blew it up! God damn you, god damn you all to hell." > > "The only good human, is a dead human!" > > Taylors opening Monologue from Planet > > The quote Cornelius reads (and 'rereads in Beneath's opening) from the > Sacred Scrolls. "Beware the beast man..." > > Ceasars end speech from Conquest > > "A city of APES?" > > "This is the Instrument of My God." > > "We reveal our innmost self unto our God." > > Mendez speech at the end of the uncut Battle. > > "GET YOUR STINKING PAWS OFF ME YOU DAMN DIRTY APE!" > > "Welcome Gentlemen to the Unites States...." > > "Because I loathe and detest Bananas!" > > Zira before she kissed Taylor: "Alright, but you're so damned ugly!" > "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their > people." > V For Vendetta. > <.html Group: pota Message: 38025 From: kidro85@aol.com Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html .html Yes, Yes, its about time, no cool extras that's too bad, but day one i'll buy it.   T                 In a message dated 7/20/2006 12:33:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, urko3085@... writes: According to www.tvshowsonDVD.com, Fox will release the Return series in a two-disc set on 10/3. You can see the story and the packaging at this link:   http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6088   What's interesting is the final line of the story, which mentions "bonus materials" - episode previews for all episodes except "Flames of Doom" (the first episode, which makes sense). The discs in the Ultimate set don't contain these previews, so these sound like new discs. Of course, we've been fooled by this sort of trick before.   Greg     <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38026 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/20/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html GWB has good days?!...=) G --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@... wrote: > > > > In a message dated 7/20/2006 10:53:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > veetus@... writes: > > I'm just afraid that George W. will get involved in this. He'll probably say > a circular timeline is the only choice for a moral society. "I'm not saying > it will be easy, but a circular timeline will prevail". - - - Jeff > > > > George wouldn't approve of Ape Society becuase the apes are smarter than he > is on his best day. > > > "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their > people." > V For Vendetta. > <.html Group: pota Message: 38027 From: Dave B Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html In the cartoon is Urko referred to as 'General'? Dave <.html Group: pota Message: 38028 From: James Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html Yes he is. And in the lost episode that U.S. censors rejected he is also referred to as Bubbles;-) --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote: > > In the cartoon is Urko referred to as 'General'? > > Dave > <.html Group: pota Message: 38029 From: James Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html You know terrorists could be reading this board right now and all this bashing of the President is boosting their morale. THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY YOUR LOCAL OFFICE OF HOMELAND SECURITY. REMEMBER WE'RE ALWAYS WATCHING. :-) --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@...> wrote: > > GWB has good days?!...=) > > G > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@ wrote: > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/20/2006 10:53:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > veetus@ writes: > > > > I'm just afraid that George W. will get involved in this. He'll > probably say > > a circular timeline is the only choice for a moral society. "I'm > not saying > > it will be easy, but a circular timeline will prevail". - - - Jeff > > > > > > > > George wouldn't approve of Ape Society becuase the apes are > smarter than he > > is on his best day. > > > > > > "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear > their > > people." > > V For Vendetta. > > > <.html Group: pota Message: 38030 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: New poll for pota .html Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the pota group: Which version of Battle do you prefer? o The Original Version o The Extended Version o Neither, both stink To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/surveys?id=2286764 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! <.html Group: pota Message: 38031 From: James Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: Lesson from the Lawgiver .html Well another week and more words of wisdom from our favorite simian philosopher. In other words, the new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks to Dave and everyone else who contributed. To read the Lesson either click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm And now a Special Annoucement: We're sure everyone loves the trading card set created by Graham Hill and Greg P. on Hunter's Site:  https://pota.goatley.com/. Well, a limited number of sets have been printed and we are happy to offer one set as the First Prize to a lucky group member. We will be annoucing details of the contest shortly so stay tuned. Have a great weekend everyone! <.html Group: pota Message: 38032 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html Isn't that the episode that guest starred Michael Jackson as the Keeper of the Children's Zoo?...=) G --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote: > > Yes he is. > > And in the lost episode that U.S. censors rejected he is also referred > to as Bubbles;-) > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@> wrote: > > > > In the cartoon is Urko referred to as 'General'? > > > > Dave > > > <.html Group: pota Message: 38033 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html Oh, yeah?...Then, how many fingers am I holding up for GWB?...=) G --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote: > > You know terrorists could be reading this board right now and all > this bashing of the President is boosting their morale. > > THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY YOUR LOCAL OFFICE OF > HOMELAND SECURITY. REMEMBER WE'RE ALWAYS WATCHING. > > :-) > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@> wrote: > > > > GWB has good days?!...=) > > > > G > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/20/2006 10:53:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > veetus@ writes: > > > > > > I'm just afraid that George W. will get involved in this. He'll > > probably say > > > a circular timeline is the only choice for a moral > society. "I'm > > not saying > > > it will be easy, but a circular timeline will prevail". - - - > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > George wouldn't approve of Ape Society becuase the apes are > > smarter than he > > > is on his best day. > > > > > > > > > "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should > fear > > their > > > people." > > > V For Vendetta. > > > > > > <.html Group: pota Message: 38034 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: Re: Death to the Circular Timeline .html .html In a message dated 7/21/2006 5:38:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes: You know terrorists could be reading this board right now and all this bashing of the President is boosting their morale. Screw those terrorist bastards. When the apes take over, they're the first ones to get blasted by the Gorillas for Target Practice. I can see Ursus now, The ONLY GOOD TERRORIST IS A DEAD TERRORIST!"   (Which is acutally a misquote of General Phillip Sheridan who said, quite close-mindedly, The only Good indian I ever saw was dead.)     "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people." V For Vendetta. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38035 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: New poll for pota .html Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the pota group: Who is the best Gorilla Leader? o General Ursus (Beneath) o General Urko (TV - Live) o General Urko (TV-Animated) o General Aldo (Battle) To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/surveys?id=2287016 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! <.html Group: pota Message: 38036 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: I prefer not to answer this. .html .html.htmlWhich version of Battle do you prefer? o The Original Version o The Extended Version o Neither, both stink BATTLE stinks compared to the original, but there are far worse movies than BATTLE.  I'd rather watch BATTLE than LOGAN'S RUN, for instance.  I think I'd actually rather watch BATTLE than THE OMEGA MAN, but, compared to PLANET, BATTLE stinks BIG TIME. Anyway, I guess I prefer the extended version simply because it now offers the best picture and sound quality, however I have yet to sit down and entirely watch the new DVD.  It is BATTLE after all. -- Rory <.html<.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38037 From: thadesdarlinghuman Date: 7/21/2006 Subject: Planet of the Apes sequel ... .html I read that there was to be a sequel for 2001 that was supposed to be released in 2004. That came and went... Is there more talk of a new one, and if there is wouldn't it be a good one if FOX could snare Mr. Jackson? As long as he didn't use cg's instead of real people, it could restart that old flame and breathe new life into our beloved simians... Richard Zanuck is getting too old to fart around with trivial nonsense and I believe he's waiting it out for the RIGHT director to take the film in a blockbuster direction. But that director must have the vision. They must see what we the people WANT to see. FOX needs to poll US - find out what is acceptable and what would sink like the Bismark...Perhaps to email the studio (not that we'd get a reply) with that suggestion. Maybe they would look at these websites and read into just where we want our apes to go, hmmm? If we want our apes to be our apes don't we have the right to design them just as much as the producers do? NO... That's why movies fail. They poll us AFTER it is made, not WHILE it's in the storyline... <.html Group: pota Message: 38038 From: drhasslein Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this. .html LOGAN'S RUN? Logan's Run ROCKS. Can't you allow yourself a little fun every once in a while? ( I agree with you on Omega Man though....) --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > Which version of Battle do you prefer? > > o The Original Version > o The Extended Version > o Neither, both stink > > > BATTLE stinks compared to the original, but there are far worse movies than > BATTLE. I'd rather watch BATTLE than LOGAN'S RUN, for instance. I think I'd > actually rather watch BATTLE than THE OMEGA MAN, but, compared to PLANET, > BATTLE stinks BIG TIME. > > Anyway, I guess I prefer the extended version simply because it now offers > the best picture and sound quality, however I have yet to sit down and entirely > watch the new DVD. It is BATTLE after all. > > -- Rory > <.html Group: pota Message: 38039 From: James Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Top 10 things I'd rather do than watch The Omega Man .html --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > I'd actually rather watch BATTLE than THE OMEGA MAN, > -- Rory > 10. Sit through Al Gore's slide show on Global Warming 9. Spend 3 hours alone in the car with my mother-in-law 8. Watch FAUX News 7. Root Canal 6. Go to a J. Lo film festival 5. Walk through the desert wearing a metal backpack (Ouch!) 4. Have a cavity search at the airport 3. Listen to Britney's greatest hits 2. Pass a kidney stone 1. See Tim Burton's remake again <.html Group: pota Message: 38040 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html .html In a message dated 7/20/2006 8:52:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes: This is great news. I even like the cover.   Rupert Mudoch was on Charlie Rose talking about, amongst other things, that they are moving into all forms of media, including the Internet. They just bought My Space. One thing he stressed was that all these new things were nothing without content.  Their new channel, Atomic is targeted to young males.  Perhaps these are two shows for it.     <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38041 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: Some favorite quotes from Apes .html .html In a message dated 7/20/2006 10:52:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes: > Zira before she kissed Taylor: "Alright, but you're so damned ugly!"   Beware the Beast Man, for he will try to pull your Bird.  Shun him. Drive him back into the Jungle Room, with Elvis. For he will make a Slut of his Dame and Yours!       <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38042 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ... .html .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/22/06 12:06:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes: I read that there was to be a sequel for 2001 that was supposed to be released in 2004. That came and went... There will never be a sequel to Burton's POTA.  Everyone in Hollywood knows it was a failure, even Burton doesn't talk about it. Maybe in another ten years Fox will try again. -- Rory<.html <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38043 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this. .html .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/22/06 1:04:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes: LOGAN'S RUN? Logan's Run ROCKS. Can't you allow yourself a little fun every once in a while? ( I agree with you on Omega Man though....) LOGAN'S RUN is dreary nonsense.  Only good thing about the movie is Jenny Agutter nude and Jerry Goldsmith's score.  I'd rather watch BATTLE. One thing that does rock is the new anamorphic DVD of CONQUEST.  I finally watched the entire thing last night and what a pleasure it was to see how visually striking the photography is.  It's only too bad that the ending was altered.  It's not that I think the change was bad, it's just too bad they couldn't have re-shot it properly. I came away from CONQUEST this time thinking the movie is really about the stupidity of cruelty, especially to animals.  As such, I don't think the original ending was the right message to leave off with.  Kind of made the rest of the movie pointless.  Anybody else thought about this? -- Rory<.html <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38044 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html .html.htmlIn a message dated 7/22/06 5:50:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes: In a message dated 7/20/2006 8:52:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JamesA1102@... writes: This is great news. I even like the cover. Rupert Mudoch was on Charlie Rose Charlie Rose talks too much! Anyway, about the release of the cartoon show.... BOY! Am I glad I didn't buy head! -- Rory<.html <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38045 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this. .html .html I agree. Can't you allow yourself to have  alittle fun, Rory? For me, Logan's Run was the best of its time! Omega Man was so --- so.   From: Haristas@... Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: I prefer not to answer this. Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 10:27:11 EDT In a message dated 7/22/06 1:04:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, drhasslein@... writes: LOGAN'S RUN? Logan's Run ROCKS. Can't you allow yourself a little fun every once in a while? ( I agree with you on Omega Man though....) LOGAN'S RUN is dreary nonsense.  Only good thing about the movie is Jenny Agutter nude and Jerry Goldsmith's score.  I'd rather watch BATTLE. One thing that does rock is the new anamorphic DVD of CONQUEST.  I finally watched the entire thing last night and what a pleasure it was to see how visually striking the photography is.  It's only too bad that the ending was altered.  It's not that I think the change was bad, it's just too bad they couldn't have re-shot it properly. I came away from CONQUEST this time thinking the movie is really about the stupidity of cruelty, especially to animals.  As such, I don't think the original ending was the right message to leave off with.  Kind of made the rest of the movie pointless.  Anybody else thought about this? -- Rory <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38046 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ... .html .html Maybe that's when Peter Jackson will be available be then.  I still haven't lost hope in that. I kind of like the idea of Boulle POTA, which Burton had left the first movie Washiington DC, etc.    Wendy From: Haristas@... Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ... Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 10:16:20 EDT In a message dated 7/22/06 12:06:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes: I read that there was to be a sequel for 2001 that was supposed to be released in 2004. That came and went... There will never be a sequel to Burton's POTA.  Everyone in Hollywood knows it was a failure, even Burton doesn't talk about it. Maybe in another ten years Fox will try again. -- Rory <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38047 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this. .html .html In a message dated 7/22/2006 1:22:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Willowape@... writes: I agree. Can't you allow yourself to have  alittle fun, Rory? For me, Logan's Run was the best of its time! Omega Man was so --- so. I love the Omega man! Charlton Heston is so over the top in this one it's great fun to watch. Ditto for Soylent Green. Bruce <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38048 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: Some favorite quotes from Apes .html .html In a message dated 7/22/2006 5:56:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes: > Zira before she kissed Taylor: "Alright, but you're so damned ugly!" "Does the other one talk?"   "Only when she lets me."     "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people." V For Vendetta. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38049 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ... .html .html In a message dated 7/22/2006 12:06:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes:    Is there more talk of a new one, and if there is wouldn't it be a good one if FOX could snare Mr. Jackson? I think that after seeing his overblown King Kong,  I wouldn't want to see Peter Jackson do an Apes film.     "People shouldn't fear their governments, governments should fear their people." V For Vendetta. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38050 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ... .html .html Guess who I saw here at the San Diego Comic-Con signing autographs. Don Pedro Colley who I had sign a two photos of himself, one of them was him as the mutant and took a photo with him. I will post the photo when I get back from the con.   Kevin PofTAfan      -----Original Message----- From: Willowape@... To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 10:28 AM Subject: RE: [POTA] Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ... Maybe that's when Peter Jackson will be available be then.  I still haven't lost hope in that. I kind of like the idea of Boulle POTA, which Burton had left the first movie Washiington DC, etc.    Wendy From: Haristas@... Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [POTA] Re: Planet of the Apes sequel ... Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2006 10:16:20 EDT In a message dated 7/22/06 12:06:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, thadesdarlinghuman@... writes: I read that there was to be a sequel for 2001 that was supposed to be released in 2004. That came and went... There will never be a sequel to Burton's POTA.  Everyone in Hollywood knows it was a failure, even Burton doesn't talk about it. Maybe in another ten years Fox will try again. -- Rory Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38051 From: drhasslein Date: 7/22/2006 Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this. .html Didn't J.Lee Thompson state he thought the new ending was the correct ending in Behind POTA? I prefer the new ending as well, it shows that Caesar was superior to those in power, rather than just angry and vengeful. I love the Conquest transfer, they framed it correctly, they really got it right. After speaking with Fox Home Video reps back in the laserdisc days, I thought the day would never come.... > > One thing that does rock is the new anamorphic DVD of CONQUEST. I finally > watched the entire thing last night and what a pleasure it was to see how > visually striking the photography is. It's only too bad that the ending was > altered. It's not that I think the change was bad, it's just too bad they couldn't > have re-shot it properly. > > I came away from CONQUEST this time thinking the movie is really about the > stupidity of cruelty, especially to animals. As such, I don't think the > original ending was the right message to leave off with. Kind of made the rest of > the movie pointless. Anybody else thought about this? > > -- Rory > <.html Group: pota Message: 38052 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/23/2006 Subject: Re: I prefer not to answer this. .html .html In a message dated 7/22/2006 12:35:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, stenosaurus@... writes: I love the Omega man! Charlton Heston is so over the top in this one it's great fun to watch.   Aren't they redoing I Am Legend with Will Smith?     <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 38053 From: shanter2002 Date: 7/23/2006 Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd .html We've been asking for years to have the animated series released, so I'll be buying it even though it's already in the 'Head' collection.The animated series has a lot of ideas and concepts that were way above mere kiddies cartoons and if you read the novels, and THEN watch the episodes, there's a whole new world of Apes that really takes hold.I love the animated series story.I wonder what the 'previews' are? John, Scrolls. <.html