Thanks to Rory and Tim for all the pics from Malibu Creek. These have been saved in the group's Photo's Section in the folder named Malibu Creek Photos: http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/browse/926e

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:36 PM

Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found

curse you Rory! I was about to go to bed when I read this and I had to get the disc out and go through the movie and do screen captures and all BUT I think you are CORRECT! I think .....here's the proof...

Now follow carefully... .

Figure 1 (enclosed) is the over head view of the spot. The yellow circle is the spot where I found and thought it might be the cage area but realised it was too small and too high up to have had the cage and zira's office there...the drop off is very steep and no water directly below as you can see when Cornelius starts up the stairs. There are some "ruins" there and a small platform and stairs but they are not right.

Figure 2 is the view from that spot (Looking south west).. Hence the yellow circle.

Figure 3 is from the film of course. Lucious and Zira driving off past the cage.....the steps leading down to the office are directly behind them (the direction they came from). See the rock formations in the red circle match Figure 2 as do the cliffs in the blue circle! and my photo is from a slightly higher elevation than the screen cap.....!

Now the big mystery is why I, standing on this plateau could not see the larger flat area below!

What do think class? Class?

I've been obsessed with this since last summer ....!!

TIm

--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

> From: Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com>
> Subject: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 4:00 PM
> Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by anyone
> else or not, but I've finally figured out where the
> outdoor cage in PLANET was located on the Fox Ranch (now
> Malibu Creek State Park).  I don't know why it's
> taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth, but
> I've finally found it.  In fact it was staring me
> right in the face.  
>
>
>
>
> See if this link works for you.  Hopefully it'll be of
> some help until I can get a map made.  You need to zoom in
> as far as you can to see the Malibu Creek.  Look for
> Century Lake (a dam in front of it can clearly be seen,
> then follow the creek downstream around the "Goat
> Buttes."
>
>
>
> http://www.satellit e-sightseer. com/id/7048/ United_States/ California/ Calabasas/ Malibu_Creek_ State_Park
>
>
>
> I think I now know pretty much where everything in PLANET
> was shot at the Fox Ranch.  Well, I'm still not
> certain where that cliff was that Taylor got shot in the
> throat off, but I think I can guess.
>
>
>
>
> Anyway, one of the things that's always confused me
> about the location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was that I
> thought the buttes behind it (and I'm talking about what
> you see directly behind Cornelius and Zira when they kiss)
> are the same ones in front of Ape City (and Century Lake).
>  But I've finally discovered they're not.  In
> fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool (the
> hoses either removed or turned off and hence no waterfall
> there).
>
>
>
>
> When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see some of
> the Malibu Creek behind him.  This is an area of the creek
> below both the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area (where
> Ape City was constructed) .
>
>
>
>
> The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation of a
> Club Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the property
> in the forties.  You can see the outline of the foundation
> in the crane shot of the outdoor cage, and the stone steps
> that Cornelius and Zira climb to get to the cage are
> actually the old steps to the lodge.  They're still
> there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.
>
>
>
>
> By the way, the small "Ape House" in front of the
> steps is built against a hugh slab of rock, the other side
> of which appears later as the "Ape Council"
> meeting place in BATTLE.
>
>
>
>
> I'm going to try in the future to get a good map made
> of these things.  In the meantime, I'm sure many of
> you will be confused.
>
>
>
>
> -- Rory

Whats your email address Rory? Ill email the shots to you to post on
the forum if you like?
Thanks
Les

I'm Haristas@..., but you can send them to this group address too.  Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: ansanaut <les.hemstock@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 2:14 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Rory
>
> Youre correct. I was out there in September doing a shoot. Ill try
>
> post a pic of me sitting on the steps.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
> Hey Les, that would be great.  I'd like to see the photos as I
don't know if I'll ever actually visit there, but thanks to Google
Earth if I were dropped there I'd know exactly where to go.
>
>
>
> -- Rory

Whats your email address Rory? Ill email the shots to you to post on
the forum if you like?
Thanks
Les

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more!

I never saw the POTA wall too....although I followed the trail that goes right by it down to the rock pool....guess I'll have to go back....
When I asked Creber where the cage was last year when he spoke at the POTA showing he made it sound like it was a completely different place in the park!

I guess he meant it was a different place than where Ape City was.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 3:42 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found

I never saw the POTA wall too....although I followed the trail that goes right by it down to the rock pool....guess I'll have to go back....
When I asked Creber where the cage was last year when he spoke at the POTA showing he made it sound like it was a completely different place in the park!

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

> From: Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com>
> Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 9:10 AM
> Is this what you are talking about? I can't believe I
> didn't see that when I was there....it looks like it
> could be....
>
> Yes!  That is exactly what I'm talking about. (Thanks
> for capturing that image.  How do you do that?)
>
>
>
> That's the foundation of an old lodge that was built
> there, I think, in the 1920s.  It was called something
> like Crag's Lodge.  There's still a trail there
> called Crag's Trail. Anyway, after Fox bought the
> property in the '40s they removed the lodge.  I guess
> the stone foundation was too much work to remove and could
> be easily disguised.  I think they shot on it in a
> '50s Fox war movie called BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL.
>
>
>
>
> Looking directly down on it like that I know it doesn't
> seem as if it could have the elevation it does in the
> movies, but it does.  That big rock slab in front of the
> foundation is now called the "Planet of the Apes
> Wall" and is used by rock climbers that visit the
> park.  As I've said, that's also where the
> "Ape Council" meeting place is in BATTLE and that
> gives you another view of the elevation.
>
>
>
>
> Hopefully we'll get more photos of it soon.
>
> -- Rory

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more!

I think I know where the cornfield was...there is a long stretch of valley as you walk from the parking lot to the visitor's center...is that it? (see pic)
Where was Battle's Ape City??

No, the cornfield was just a little further south of where you have it.  If you freeze frame the first crane shot of the astronauts coming out of the woods and seeing the humans feeding, look at the area of trees around the field.  It hasn't changed much at all, except that it looks like there's a small dirt parking lot where the astronauts once stood and there's a dirt road along that side of the field.  Back in that corner of the woods is where they made BATTLE's treehouse Ape City.

You may be right about the spot where Taylor was shot.  It had to be somewhere along the creek and it's all really overgrown now, so it's hard to tell exacly where it was.

-- Rory

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found

I think I know where the cornfield was...there is a long stretch of valley as you walk from the parking lot to the visitor's center...is that it? (see pic)
Where was Battle's Ape City??

--- On Wed, 6/11/08, Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:

> From: Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com>
> Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 9:23 AM
> Yeah, Tim....
>
>
>
> The area you took your first two photos from is too far
> away.  I'm sorry to cause you this anxiety, but this
> is what's great about this group.  I've been
> bugged for years as to where the hell that outdoor cage set
> was in relationship to the Ape City set, but I'm glad
> I've finally figured it out.  Bless Google Earth.  A
> few years ago their photo of the area was so low res. that
> it was practically useless.  Now they are fantastic.  The
> big mystery for me is why I didn't spot this area months
> ago.  I've known the cage sat atop the lodge foundation
> for some time.  Anyway, it's a pleasure to be able to
> share my discovery with other fans.
>
>
>
>
> Now you need to get back out to the park and take new
> photos, Tim!
>
>
>
>
> By the way, everyone knows where the cornfield was and the
> Ape Town set from BATTLE, right?
>
>
>
>
> -- Rory 
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@yahoo. com>
> To: pota@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:36 am
> Subject: Re: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> curse you Rory! I was about to go to bed when I read this
> and I had to get the disc out and go through the movie and
> do screen captures and all BUT I think you are CORRECT! I
> think .....here's the proof...
>
>
>
> Now follow carefully... .
>
>
>
> Figure 1 (enclosed) is the over head view of the spot. The
> yellow circle is the spot where I found and thought it
> might be the cage area but realised it was too small and
> too high up to have had the cage and zira's office
> there...the drop off is very steep and no water directly
> below as you can see when Cornelius starts up the stairs.
> There are some "ruins" there and a small platform
> and stairs but they are not right.
>
>
>
> Figure 2 is the view from that spot (Looking south west)..
> Hence the yellow circle.
>
>
>
> Figure 3 is from the film of course. Lucious and Zira
> driving off past the cage.....the steps leading down to the
> office are directly behind them (the direction they came
> from). See the rock formations in the red circle match
> Figure 2 as do the cliffs in the blue circle! and my photo
> is from a slightly higher elevation than the screen
> cap.....!
>
>
>
> Now the big mystery is why I, standing on this plateau
> could not see the larger flat area below!
>
>
>
> What do think class? Class?
>
>
>
> I've been obsessed with this since last summer ....!!
>
>
>
> TIm
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Haristas@aol. com
> <Haristas@aol. com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: Haristas@aol. com <Haristas@aol. com>
>
> > Subject: [pota] PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
>
> > To: pota@yahoogroups. com
>
> > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 4:00 PM
>
> > Folks, I don't know if this has even been told by
> anyone
>
> > else or not, but I've finally figured out where
> the
>
> > outdoor cage in PLANET was located on the Fox Ranch
> (now
>
> > Malibu Creek State Park).  I don't know why
> it's
>
> > taken me this long to find the spot on Google Earth,
> but
>
> > I've finally found it.  In fact it was staring me
>
> > right in the face.  
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > See if this link works for you.  Hopefully it'll
> be of
>
> > some help until I can get a map made.  You need to
> zoom in
>
> > as far as you can to see the Malibu Creek.  Look for
>
> > Century Lake (a dam in front of it can clearly be
> seen,
>
> > then follow the creek downstream around the "Goat
>
> > Buttes."
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
> http://www.satellit e-sightseer. com/id/7048/ United_States/ California/ Calabasas/ Malibu_Creek_ State_Park
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I think I now know pretty much where everything in
> PLANET
>
> > was shot at the Fox Ranch.  Well, I'm still not
>
> > certain where that cliff was that Taylor got shot in
> the
>
> > throat off, but I think I can guess.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, one of the things that's always confused
> me
>
> > about the location of the outdoor cage in PLANET was
> that I
>
> > thought the buttes behind it (and I'm talking
> about what
>
> > you see directly behind Cornelius and Zira when they
> kiss)
>
> > are the same ones in front of Ape City (and Century
> Lake).
>
> >  But I've finally discovered they're not.
>  In
>
> > fact what they are are the buttes above the Rock Pool
> (the
>
> > hoses either removed or turned off and hence no
> waterfall
>
> > there).
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > When you first see Cornelius in PLANET you can see
> some of
>
> > the Malibu Creek behind him.  This is an area of the
> creek
>
> > below both the Rock Pool and the Century Lake area
> (where
>
> > Ape City was constructed) .
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > The outdoor cage was built atop the stone foundation
> of a
>
> > Club Lodge that Fox removed after they bought the
> property
>
> > in the forties.  You can see the outline of the
> foundation
>
> > in the crane shot of the outdoor cage, and the stone
> steps
>
> > that Cornelius and Zira climb to get to the cage are
>
> > actually the old steps to the lodge.  They're
> still
>
> > there and can be clearly seen on Google Earth.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > By the way, the small "Ape House" in front
> of the
>
> > steps is built against a hugh slab of rock, the other
> side
>
> > of which appears later as the "Ape Council"
>
> > meeting place in BATTLE.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I'm going to try in the future to get a good map
> made
>
> > of these things.  In the meantime, I'm sure many
> of
>
> > you will be confused.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Image Removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Image Removed]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Image Removed]

[Image Removed]

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more!

By the way, I found a book that might be of interest to the group,
and you specifically. It's called "Hollywood Escapes: The
Moviegoer's Guide to Exploring Southern California's Great Outdoors"
by Harry Medved. I purchased it on Amazon.com specifically for this
trip, and he does a pretty good job of covering the POTA filming
locations. I'm also looking forward to the map you are planning to
make of the park. Thank goodness for Google Earth!

Mike

Yeah, I have that book right here with.  Definitely something to have before you visit the park.  I'll scan a map that's in the book and post it later.

-- Rory

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more!

--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

> From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
> Subject: [pota] Malibu Creek State Park
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 2:27 PM
> Here's the map of Malibu Creek State Park (The Fox
> Ranch) that's in the book "Hollywood
> Escapes."
>
> I'm not too sure about the compass on the map.? Looking
> at Google Earth, I'd say from the area where the
> cornfield was to where Ape City was is a more Northwest
> direction than dead West, but then I've never been
> there!
>
> -- Rory

--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

> From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 1:43 PM
> I think I know where the cornfield was...there is a long
> stretch of valley as you walk from the parking lot to the
> visitor's center...is that it? (see pic)
> Where was Battle's Ape City??
>
>
> No, the cornfield was just a little further south of where
> you have it.? If you freeze frame the first crane shot of
> the astronauts coming out of the woods and seeing the
> humans feeding, look at the area of trees around the
> field.? It hasn't changed much at all, except that it
> looks like there's a small dirt parking lot where the
> astronauts once stood and there's a dirt road along
> that side of the field.? Back in that corner of the woods
> is where they made BATTLE's treehouse Ape City.
>
> You may be right about the spot where Taylor was shot.? It
> had to be somewhere along the creek and it's all really
> overgrown now, so it's hard to tell exacly where it was.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- On Thu, 6/12/08, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:

> From: Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area found
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 4:37 PM
> you mean this field? or the one more east across the creek?
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/12/08, Haristas@...
> <Haristas@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
> > Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Outdoor Cage area
> found
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 1:43 PM
> > I think I know where the cornfield was...there is a
> long
> > stretch of valley as you walk from the parking lot to
> the
> > visitor's center...is that it? (see pic)
> > Where was Battle's Ape City??
> >
> >
> > No, the cornfield was just a little further south of
> where
> > you have it.? If you freeze frame the first crane shot
> of
> > the astronauts coming out of the woods and seeing the
> > humans feeding, look at the area of trees around the
> > field.? It hasn't changed much at all, except that
> it
> > looks like there's a small dirt parking lot where
> the
> > astronauts once stood and there's a dirt road
> along
> > that side of the field.? Back in that corner of the
> woods
> > is where they made BATTLE's treehouse Ape City.
> >
> > You may be right about the spot where Taylor was
> shot.? It
> > had to be somewhere along the creek and it's all
> really
> > overgrown now, so it's hard to tell exacly where
> it was.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:40 PM, <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

I VOTED...

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
From: rkid67 <rkid67@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 6:01 pm
Subject: [pota] Get Your Stinkin' Paws On Me...

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/GoCheeta/

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, more!

>
> I voted too.
>
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 3:40 PM, <stenosaurus@...> wrote:
>
> > I VOTED...
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rkid67 <rkid67@...>
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 6:01 pm
> > Subject: [pota] Get Your Stinkin' Paws On Me...
> >
> > http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/GoCheeta/
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Get the Moviefone

> > Showtimes, theaters, movie news, more!
> >
> >
> >
>

--- On Thu, 6/12/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

> From: stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...>
> Subject: Re: [pota] Get Your Stinkin' Paws On Me...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 6:40 PM
> I VOTED...
>
> Bruce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rkid67 <rkid67@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 6:01 pm
> Subject: [pota] Get Your Stinkin' Paws On Me...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/GoCheeta/

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:

> From: James <JamesA1102@...>
> Subject: [pota] Cornelius' Journal/Group Website/POTA Locations/AFI's 10 Top 10
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 5:43 AM
> Happy Friday everyone! This week's entry of
> CORNELIUS' JOURNAL is now
> available.
> To read the JOURNAL entry either click the banner on the
> Yahoo home page
> or use this link:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm>
>
> There are some new additions to the Group Website. On the
> Planet One
> Sheets page
> (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Planet.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Planet.htm>
> ) scans of the original Door Panels have been added. Hunter
> will have
> Hi-Res versions of these available on his site shortly. On
> Conquest's
> page
> (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Conquest.ht\
> m
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Conquest.ht\
> m> ) a scan of the film's 6 sheet poster was added.
>
> Thanks to Rory and Tim, new pics and the map of Malibu
> Creek have been
> added to POTA Locations:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm>
> .
>
> Next Tuesday the AFI will annouce it's list of the Top
> 10 films in 10
> genres. 50 films were nominated for each genre. The ballot
> for the 50
> Science Fiction films nominated has been uploaded to the
> Files Section:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/10top10SF.pdf
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/10top10SF.pdf>
> . Based on the
> criteria given (Critical Recognition, Popularity over Time,
> Cultural
> Impact, etc) I can't see POTA not making the Top 10
> list, but I am
> prejudiced.
>
> Have a great weekend everybody!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Group Website
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm>
> - Original
> POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare
> Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much more.
> * POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm>
> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot.
> * Lessons from the Lawgiver
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm>
> – Words
> of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
> * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm>
> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members.
> * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database>
> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics.
> * The Photos Section
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos>
> - POTA pics
> contributed by members.

Does anybody know anything about the 70s Roddy McDowall and Mark Lenard
Fan Clubs? John, Scrolls.

> There are some new additions to the Group Website. On the Planet One
> Sheets page
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/Planet.htm
> scans of the original Door Panels have been added. Hunter will have
> Hi-Res versions of these available on his site shortly.

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, shanter2002 <john@...> wrote:

> From: shanter2002 <john@...>
> Subject: [pota] Fan Clubs
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 7:28 AM
> Does anybody know anything about the 70s Roddy McDowall and
> Mark Lenard
> Fan Clubs? John, Scrolls.

Don't know who owns them. I found the scans on an auction website.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Great new stuff James! Who owns/scanned the Planet door panels....and where do they live?...and when are they not home??? lol
>
> Tim
>
>
>

Yes it is. It is a bit similar to the half sheet so I almost didn't add it to the page.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, stenosaurus@... wrote:
>
> Very cool! I have the original Marcus door panel but sadly didn't buy the others when I had a chance!
> Is the CONQUEST 6-sheet the one right before the newspaper herald?
>
> Bruce
>
>

you mean this field? or the one more east across the creek?

No, you're still too far north or northwest.  The area where the cornfield was (and the battle in BATTLE) is a large rectangular area, next to the parking lot.
As soon as I can I'll try to capture it off Google Earth.

-- Rory

 

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more!

Nope...I think I see it now....next to the campground.. ..Is this it????

Yes, it's the long rectangular area in the lower right.  There's a small, dirt parking lot near where the astronauts once stepped out into the open.

-- Rory

 

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more!

> Yes, it's the long rectangular area in the lower right.? There's a

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

> From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
> Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET's Cornfield area found
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 2:13 PM
> Nope...I think I see it now....next to the campground....Is
> this it????
>
>
>
> Yes, it's the long rectangular area in the lower
> right.? There's a small, dirt parking lot near where
> the astronauts once stepped out into the open.
>
> -- Rory

Saulo Adami sent me a copy of his new book, "Diários de
Hollywood: Um brasileiro no Planeta dos Macacos." Scans of the front
and rear covers can be found on my site now.

The text of the book alternates pages in both Portuguese and English.
The English translation is pretty rough in many spots, but that
doesn't take away from Saulo's interesting story. The book chronicles
his visits to the U.S. in 1998 and 1999 to meet with Natalie Trundy,
Jeff Kreuger, Bill Blake, John Chambers, and others. The book is
illustrated with photos of, among others, the makeup session with Bill
Blake that turned Saulo into an ape.

It's a slim, but fun, read, and I encourage everyone to buy a copy
from Saulo.

https://pota. goatley.com/

Hunter
------
Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process. com/
goathunter@GOATLEY. COM http://www.goatley. com/hunter/

---

Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento!

Caption is,

"Honey, do you think these are ripe enough to eat?"

His cosmetic dental surgery was expertly performed by member AngelofMusic2112.

http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/? action=view&current=zaius011- 1.jpg

Jessica

You might want to move his right hand away from where it is!

-- Rory

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more!

Six-sheets a HUGE! I had an original Star Wars 6-sheet for years but wound up selling it. What did the first POTA film's 6-sheet look like? I've seen the one for ESCAPE & BATTLE.

Bruce

I have a six-sheet from PLANET. It looks like the window card, but with not so bright colors.

-- Rory

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, & more!

I was at the Loew's New Jersey last night with Jeff K. The print was better than the one at the Ziefeld. The manager said that is was an archive print directly from FOX. However, there were some visible splices in it. Also, it was a bit dark. Oddly, the manager said that when they reviewed it the print was too light in some places; so I think they might have been over compensating a little.

The theater is old and didn't have air conditioning. Luckily it wasn't too hot last night so it was about 2/3rds full. The audience seemed to enjoy the film, clapping, laughing and cheering in all the right places.

Jeff and I smiled in amusement when Lee Pfieffer of Cinema Retro announced the Blu-Ray release since we've all known about it here for a couple of months. The surprise was the announcement of the book that will be included with the Blu-Ray set.

All in all it was a good experience.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Well, folks, even though it was nice to go to New York last March and see PLANET on the big screen again, looks like that showing of it in Jersey City was the one to go to.  Also there's this news from Cinemaretro.com:
>
>
>
> "Hundreds of fans attended last night's big screen showing of the 1968 sci-fi classicPlanet of the Apes at the Loew's Theater in Jersey City, New Jersey, making for a memorable evening. The show was preceded by a wonderful recital on the theater's magnificent organ and there were displays of original Ape movie memorabilia and collectibles. Best of all, Twentieth Century Fox provided a superb archival print for the screening, making for an extraordinary evening of entertainment. Cinema Retro Editor-in-Chief Lee Pfeiffer introduced the film and gave some insights into its production. He also had Fox's permission to reveal a few details about a new DVD project that Cinema Retro is contributing to: a forthcoming 40th anniversary Blu-ray release of the Ape films that will included extensive extras (the details of which are not being revealed at this time). However, they will be of the "everything but the kitchen sink variety". Pfeiffer also informed the audience that he and co-publisher Dave Worrall are writing a hardcover book about the history of the series that will be included in the deluxe box set release. This is the second book Cinema Retro has worked with the studio on, the first being The Great Fox War Movies which covered the making of The Longest Day, Patton and Tora! Tora! Tora! Keep tuning in to the Cinema Retro web site for any official forthcoming press releases."
>
>
>
> -- Rory
>

On 6/14/08, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

Caption is,

 

"Honey, do you think these are ripe enough to eat?"

 

His cosmetic dental surgery was expertly performed by member AngelofMusic2112. 

 

http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view&current=zaius011-1.jpg

 

Jessica

You might want to move his right hand away from where it is!

 

-- Rory



 

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, more!

On 6/14/08, stenosaurus@... <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

LOL!

Bruce


-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@...
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 1:47 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Just sharing a fun photograph I took yesterday of Sideshow Dr. Zaius.

Caption is,

 

"Honey, do you think these are ripe enough to eat?"

 

His cosmetic dental surgery was expertly performed by member AngelofMusic2112. 

 

http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view&current=zaius011-1.jpg

 

Jessica

You might want to move his right hand away from where it is!

 

-- Rory



 

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, more!

---

Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news, more!

To celebrate BATTLE's 35th anniversary, a Program Booklet has been created and is available here in the group's Files Section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Programs/Battle%20Program.pdf 

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal
>
> Battle premiered this day in 1973
> Sunday June 15, 2008
> All Day
> (This event repeats every year.)
>
> All Rights Reserved
> Copyright © 2008
> Yahoo! Inc.
> http://www.yahoo.com
>
> Privacy Policy:
> http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us
>
> Terms of Service:
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:40 PM, <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Reminder from:		pota Yahoo! Group
Title:		Battle premiered this day in 1973
Date:		Sunday June 15, 2008
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Yahoo! Greetings:		Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Yahoo! Shopping:		Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide
Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options

Copyright © 2008  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved |

--
Best Regards,
Colin

"A person is smart. People are dangerous, panicky animals, and you know it." Tommy Lee Jones - Men in Black 1997

> Anyone ever see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkkexHSavAw ?

> Edward G Robinson is in it as Zaius and Heston plays a character named
> Thomas .....

On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> Anyone ever see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkkexHSavAw ?

> Edward G Robinson is in it as Zaius and Heston plays a character named
> Thomas .....

This and the "behind the scenes" video someone posted yesterday have
both appeared on the DVD releases....

Hunter

Nothing to be sorry about Colin. We really appreciate you bringing it to our attention for there may be other group members who don't have the particular DVDs which include these videos.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Snow" <colindsnow@...> wrote:
>
> Oh.... didn't know.... sorry ....
>
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:48 PM, Hunter Goatley goathunter@...
> wrote:
>
> > > Anyone ever see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkkexHSavAw ?
> >
> > > Edward G Robinson is in it as Zaius and Heston plays a character named
> > > Thomas .....
> >
> > This and the "behind the scenes" video someone posted yesterday have
> > both appeared on the DVD releases....
> >
> > Hunter
> >
> >
>

> Looks like The Hulk is kicking Kung Fu Panda's ass.

> I'm reading that the man who might have done the makeup for the APES
> remake (or reinvention) -- and might have done a better job at it in
> my opinion -- has died.

> This is sad news, which seems to be the only kind of news we get these days!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunter Goatley" <goathunter@...>
To: "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...>
Cc: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 4:45 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Authorizing DVD menu chapters etc - Hunter ?


>> I think it might have been Hunter I was speaking to on this topic
>> Does anyone have any suggestions on a good DVD program
>> that creates detailed menus and chapters - where you can choose
>> pictures or specific frames to show for each chapter and also text
>> titles for each ?
>
> TMPGEnc DVD Author is simple to use, lets you do all of the above, and
> is prett inexpensive:
>
> http://www.process.com/
> goathunter@... http://www.goatley.com/hunter/
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, rob reading <readingrob@...> wrote:
>
>
> No. 17 gets my vote.
>
> Rob R
>

Here's the link for the thumbnails: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/COVER%20GALLERY.jpg

The larger size versions of the covers, they are available on the Group Website: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Misc./Stuff/ComicsCovers.htm and on Hunter's Site: https://pota.goatley.com/marvel/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> I've just created a new poll regarding the old 1970s Marvel magazines.
>
> The results will be very helpful for something I'm currently working
> on so if you could take a minute or two to cast your vote I'd be very
> grateful.
>
> Thumbnails for all the covers can be viewed here;
>
> <http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/QKdXSDjRvtAzaWsiz6AHv-_XD6_r4ooBn3j02Vc5I4znoG-lKpL_-BWJGHouOuuvtpgd-eSiVn6uD8VkRdm2/COVER%20GALLERY.jpg>
>
> Larger versions can be viewed on both the group sub-site and Hunter's.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Dave
> Scrolls
>

A PDF of the 50 films nominated as well as the selection criteria is available in the Files Section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/10top10SF.pdf

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> CBS is showing another one of those commercial filled AFI movie list?specials tonight (Tuesday), which means I'll record it but not watch it live so I can skip to the stuff that interests me, that being if PLANET will be among the top ten SF films?
>
> It better be.
>
> -- Rory
>

----- Original Message -----

From: James

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:36 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Cover poll

Here's the link for the thumbnails: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/pota/ files/COVER% 20GALLERY. jpg

The larger size versions of the covers, they are available on the Group Website: http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ pota/files/ Misc./Stuff/ ComicsCovers. htm and on Hunter's Site: https://pota. goatley.com/ marvel/

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@ ...> wrote:
>
> I've just created a new poll regarding the old 1970s Marvel magazines.
>
> The results will be very helpful for something I'm currently working
> on so if you could take a minute or two to cast your vote I'd be very
> grateful.
>
> Thumbnails for all the covers can be viewed here;
>
> <http://f1.grp. yahoofs.com/ v1/QKdXSDjRvtAza Wsiz6AHv- _XD6_r4ooBn3j02V c5I4znoG- lKpL_-BWJGHouOuu vtpgd-eSiVn6uD8V kRdm2/COVER% 20GALLERY. jpg>
>
> Larger versions can be viewed on both the group sub-site and Hunter's.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Dave
> Scrolls
>

Well the AFI screwed up again and left POTA off the list of the Top 10 SF films. The list is as follows:

1 2001

2 Star Wars

3 ET

4 A Clockwork Orange

5 The Day the Earth Stood Still

6 Blade Runner

7 Alien

8 Terminator 2

9 Invasion of the Body Snatchers

10 Back to the Future

Now these are all good films but some, based on the AFI's on criteria of Impact, Cultural Signifigance and Enduring Appeal, just don't belong. Back to the Future is a good film but it is a joke to include while omitting POTA. Alien is another good film but is more of a horror than SF film. Terminator 2??? I could see if it was the first Terminator which was a ground breaking film, but the sequel? They have got to be kidding.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> CBS is showing another one of those commercial filled AFI movie list?specials tonight (Tuesday), which means I'll record it but not watch it live so I can skip to the stuff that interests me, that being if PLANET will be among the top ten SF films?
>
> It better be.
>
> -- Rory
>

Well the AFI screwed up again and left POTA off the list of the Top 10 SF films. The list is as follows:

1 2001

2 Star Wars

3 ET

4 A Clockwork Orange

5 The Day the Earth Stood Still

6 Blade Runner

7 Alien

8 Terminator 2

9 Invasion of the Body Snatchers

10 Back to the Future

Now these are all good films but some, based on the AFI's on criteria of Impact, Cultural Signifigance and Enduring Appeal, just don't belong. Back to the Future is a good film but it is a joke to include while omitting POTA. Alien is another good film but is more of a horror than SF film. Terminator 2??? I could see if it was the first Terminator which was a ground breaking film, but the sequel? They have got to be kidding.

--- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> CBS is showing another one of those commercial filled AFI movie list?specials tonight (Tuesday), which means I'll record it but not watch it live so I can skip to the stuff that interests me, that being if PLANET will be among the top ten SF films?
>
> It better be.
>
> -- Rory
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ~~Joanne~~ <josievan@...> wrote:
>
> I would eliminate Terminator 2 and put up the original. 
Replace Back to the Future with POTA (not necessarily in the
same order as they listed either)
>
>
>  
>
> --- On Tue, 6/17/08, James JamesA1102@... wrote:
>
> From: James JamesA1102@...
> Subject: [pota] Re: AFI Top 10 Top 10
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:21 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well the AFI screwed up again and left POTA off the list of the Top
10 SF films. The list is as follows:
> 1 2001
> 2 Star Wars
> 3 ET
> 4 A Clockwork Orange
> 5 The Day the Earth Stood Still
> 6 Blade Runner
> 7 Alien
> 8 Terminator 2
> 9 Invasion of the Body Snatchers
> 10 Back to the Future
> Now these are all good films but some, based on the AFI's on
criteria of Impact, Cultural Signifigance and Enduring Appeal, just
don't belong. Back to the Future is a good film but it is a joke to
include while omitting POTA. Alien is another good film but is more
of a horror than SF film. Terminator 2??? I could see if it was the
first Terminator which was a ground breaking film, but the sequel?
They have got to be kidding.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> > CBS is showing another one of those commercial filled AFI
movie list?specials tonight (Tuesday), which means I'll record it but
not watch it live so I can skip to the stuff that interests me, that
being if PLANET will be among the top ten SF films?
> >
> > It better be.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>