Dates: 2011-07-21 through 2011-07-24

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Prev   64527	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/21/2011
Subject: 3rd "Rise" clip on youtube
Group: pota	Message: 64528	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/21/2011
Subject: Re: new "Rise" trailer
Group: pota	Message: 64529	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/21/2011
Subject: trailer for George Lucas' rerelease of POTA
Group: pota	Message: 64531	From: knightangel314	Date: 7/21/2011
Subject: Re: POTA Humor
Group: pota	Message: 64532	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 7/21/2011
Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE
Group: pota	Message: 64533	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/21/2011
Subject: "Rise" Comic Con "sizzle reel"
Group: pota	Message: 64534	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/21/2011
Subject: long wait for the soundtrack to "Rise"
Group: pota	Message: 64535	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: "Rise of the POTA" at Comic Con
Group: pota	Message: 64536	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: scientists flirting with a real planet of the apes?
Group: pota	Message: 64538	From: jamesa1102	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: The Mendez Dynasty
Group: pota	Message: 64539	From: James	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota	Message: 64540	From: jamesa1102	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: HBO First Look: Rise of the Planet of the Apes, 7/22/2011, 9:45
Group: pota	Message: 64541	From: Alex Ruiz	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: HBO First Look: Rise of the Planet of the Apes, 7/22/2011, 9:45
Group: pota	Message: 64542	From: jamesa1102	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: HBO First Look: Rise of the Planet of the Apes, 7/22/2011, 9:45
Group: pota	Message: 64543	From: johnroche49	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" at Comic Con
Group: pota	Message: 64544	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes?
Group: pota	Message: 64545	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA"
Group: pota	Message: 64546	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA"
Group: pota	Message: 64547	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: 3 Ring Serkis at Comic Con
Group: pota	Message: 64548	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: The "Rise of the POTA" saga, Pt. 1
Group: pota	Message: 64549	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA"
Group: pota	Message: 64550	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: 3 Ring Serkis at Comic Con
Group: pota	Message: 64551	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Goldsmith in his prime.
Group: pota	Message: 64552	From: Hunter Goatley	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Conspiracy has shipped
Group: pota	Message: 64553	From: Hunter Goatley	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: New items on Hunter's site
Group: pota	Message: 64554	From: Stuart Drucker	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Conspiracy has shipped
Group: pota	Message: 64555	From: Dan	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Reminder: GO APE event in Philadelphia on 7/31
Group: pota	Message: 64556	From: John B Kirtley	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site
Group: pota	Message: 64557	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site
Group: pota	Message: 64558	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" clip in better quality
Group: pota	Message: 64559	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Goldsmith in his prime.
Group: pota	Message: 64560	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64561	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise": Caesar is revolting!
Group: pota	Message: 64562	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Conspiracy has shipped
Group: pota	Message: 64563	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64564	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE
Group: pota	Message: 64565	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE
Group: pota	Message: 64566	From: stenosaurus@aol.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" clip in better quality
Group: pota	Message: 64567	From: Eric Payton	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64568	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" clip in better quality
Group: pota	Message: 64569	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Goldsmith in his prime.
Group: pota	Message: 64570	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: 3 Ring Serkis at Comic Con
Group: pota	Message: 64572	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE
Group: pota	Message: 64573	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64574	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Re: Goldsmith in his prime.
Group: pota	Message: 64575	From: pota@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/22/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota	Message: 64576	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64577	From: Alex Ruiz	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA"
Group: pota	Message: 64578	From: Alex Ruiz	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA"
Group: pota	Message: 64579	From: johnroche49	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes?
Group: pota	Message: 64580	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64582	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site
Group: pota	Message: 64583	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE
Group: pota	Message: 64584	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64585	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: 3 Ring Serkis at Comic Con
Group: pota	Message: 64586	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64587	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE
Group: pota	Message: 64588	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64589	From: Eric Payton	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64590	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64591	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes?
Group: pota	Message: 64592	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE
Group: pota	Message: 64593	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes?
Group: pota	Message: 64594	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes?
Group: pota	Message: 64595	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64596	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64597	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes?
Group: pota	Message: 64598	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64599	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday
Group: pota	Message: 64600	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: official "Rise"clips on youtube
Group: pota	Message: 64601	From: pota@yahoogroups.com	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota	Message: 64602	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/23/2011
Subject: Caesar, too Human?
Group: pota	Message: 64603	From: Alex Ruiz	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: New Galleries
Group: pota	Message: 64604	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar, too Human?
Group: pota	Message: 64605	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: new "Rise" galleries
Group: pota	Message: 64606	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: HBO First Look on site
Group: pota	Message: 64607	From: James	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota	Message: 64608	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes?
Group: pota	Message: 64609	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday
Group: pota	Message: 64610	From: jamesa1102	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site
Group: pota	Message: 64611	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes?
Group: pota	Message: 64612	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site
Group: pota	Message: 64613	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64614	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64615	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar, too Human?
Group: pota	Message: 64616	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE
Group: pota	Message: 64617	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes?
Group: pota	Message: 64618	From: LordTZer0@AOL.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64619	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday
Group: pota	Message: 64620	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64621	From: James	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: FW: happy birthday linda harrison
Group: pota	Message: 64622	From: JohnM conquest-idor	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday
Group: pota	Message: 64623	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted
Group: pota	Message: 64624	From: rassmguy	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: The homepage pic
Group: pota	Message: 64625	From: Haristas@aol.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday
Group: pota	Message: 64626	From: Eric Payton	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Caesar, too Human?
Group: pota	Message: 64627	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: 3 new clips "Rise"
Group: pota	Message: 64628	From: Jeff K.	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday
Group: pota	Message: 64629	From: Hunter Goatley	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: Conspiracy has shipped
Group: pota	Message: 64630	From: mlccougar@aol.com	Date: 7/24/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday

.html .html  Here's an article about worries that scientists might be going down a "Rise of the POTA" path with genetics:     Group: pota Message: 64538 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: The Mendez Dynasty .html Two weeks and counting until RISE. In the meantime, a new installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is now online. To read the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm. Have a great weekend everyone! Visit all the Group's special features including: The Internal Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more. Marvel Archive - Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies. Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius. Ape City Chronicles - The history of Ape City's first 75 years, written by Virgil. The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot. The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members. The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics. The Photos Section - POTA pics contributed by members. <.html Group: pota Message: 64539 From: James Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" .html .html FYI   Google Alert - "planet of the apes"   Planet of the apes as seen in the 70s Washington Post By Ann Hornaday Early in "Project Nim," the film's title character - a chimpanzee named Nim Chimpsky - is brutally taken from its mother's arms, spirited from a primate compound in Oklahoma to the Upper West Side of Manhattan, where he will be raised ... See all stories on this topic » Washington Post Beware 'Planet of the Apes' experiments that could create sci-fi nightmare Daily Mail The warnings have echoes of the new movie Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, in which scientists searching for an Alzheimer's cure create a new breed of ape with human-like intelligence. Report co-author Professor Thomas Baldwin said: 'The fear is that if ... See all stories on this topic » From Gollum to Gibbon: Andy Serkis Talks Rise of the Planet of the Apes Wired News (blog) By Michael Lennon SAN DIEGO — Rise of the Planet of the Apes is a reboot of the Planet of the Apes series. Andy Serkis — Gollum from Lord of the Rings and the titular simian from the 2005 King Kong remake — plays the main character Caesar, ... See all stories on this topic »   <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64540 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: HBO First Look: Rise of the Planet of the Apes, 7/22/2011, 9:45 .html I thought this was really good. Has anyone else seen it? --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal > > HBO First Look: Rise of the Planet of the Apes > Friday July 22, 2011 > 9:45 am - 10:00 am > Location: HBO2 > > All Rights Reserved > Copyright © 2011 > Yahoo! Inc. > http://www.yahoo.com > > Privacy Policy: > http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us > > Terms of Service: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > <.html Group: pota Message: 64541 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: HBO First Look: Rise of the Planet of the Apes, 7/22/2011, 9:45 .html .html I will this morning. Ordering HBO just for that. :o)   Here's another released clip of RISE. http://go.ign.com/rgSwJh   Enjoy.   Al From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:59 AM Subject: [pota] Re: HBO First Look: Rise of the Planet of the Apes, 7/22/2011, 9:45 am   I thought this was really good. Has anyone else seen it? --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, pota@yahoogroups.com wrote: > > Reminder from: pota Yahoo! Group > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/cal > > HBO First Look: Rise of the Planet of the Apes > Friday July 22, 2011 > 9:45 am - 10:00 am > Location: HBO2 > > All Rights Reserved > Copyright © 2011 > Yahoo! Inc. > http://www.yahoo.com > > Privacy Policy: > http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us > > Terms of Service: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64542 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: HBO First Look: Rise of the Planet of the Apes, 7/22/2011, 9:45 .html Those who don't have HBO can go here: http://tvpc.tv/Channel.php?ChannelID=4243 --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote: > > I will this morning. Ordering HBO just for that. :o) >   > Here's another released clip of RISE. > http://go.ign.com/rgSwJh >   > Enjoy. >   > Al > > <.html Group: pota Message: 64543 From: johnroche49 Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" at Comic Con .html That image of (I'm assuming) Caesar looking out from the top of a tree on the 'sizzle reel' is immediately installed as one of my all time iconic Apes images.Superb. John, Scrolls. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > Fox didn't really seem to make a big splash at Comic Con with the new "Apes" movie; they didn't drag in the stars or anything ("Prometheus", Ridley Scott's first science-fiction flick in 30 years, seemed to make a bigger impression at the presentation). But they did bring in "Rise" director Rupert Wyatt and Andy Serkis to field questions. All the footage shown has already debuted on the internet (the Lithgow clip, the rallying the troops clip, the new "sizzle reel"). > > http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/07/21/comic-con-2011-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-ascends-in-hall-h/ > > http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/motion-captured/posts/comic-con-20th-century-fox-panel > > http://collider.com/rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-comic-con/102740/ > > And here's the "sizzle reel" on easier to watch youtube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GpqclKrFt4 > <.html Group: pota Message: 64544 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes? .html .html   You're kidding, right?  Remember the BEFORE Orangs in the cage with Caesar and the AFTER Orangs.  There has to be some enhancement there.  More then the average major league baseball player anyway.     In a message dated 7/16/2011 5:33:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnroche49@... writes: I think, based on the fact that the Conquest Apes were their own creatures, not created by Man <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64545 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA" .html Al has made the new HBO special available to mere mortals because, well, he is a god. http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/features/hbo_first_look.wmv/ <.html Group: pota Message: 64546 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA" .html Or I guess hook up from his twitter page. http://twitter.com/#!/ruletheplanet From: Jeff K. Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:12 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA" Al has made the new HBO special available to mere mortals because, well, he is a god. http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/features/hbo_first_look.wmv/ <.html Group: pota Message: 64547 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: 3 Ring Serkis at Comic Con .html Here's an good interview with director Wyatt and actor Serkis at Comic Con: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/07/from-gollum-to-gibbon-andy-serkis-talks-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/ And here's the press conference with the two (about 14 minutes): http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=80094 <.html Group: pota Message: 64548 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: The "Rise of the POTA" saga, Pt. 1 .html Ed Gross, co-author of the great "POTA Revisited" book, is doing a series of articles today about the development of "Rise of the POTA". Here's Part One: http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/apecentral/news/?a=42551 <.html Group: pota Message: 64549 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA" .html Al has made the new HBO special available to mere mortals because, well, he is a god. http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/features/hbo_first_look.wmv/ Hey Al, I remember when you were kinda down on this new movie.  What do you think now?  Looking forward to seeing it?   -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64550 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: 3 Ring Serkis at Comic Con .html Here's an good interview with director Wyatt and actor Serkis at Comic Con: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/07/from-gollum-to-gibbon-andy-serkis-talks-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/ And here's the press conference with the two (about 14 minutes): http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=80094 I haven't got time to watch this right now, but let me ask the question some really want to know, Did they say it's a prequel or what?  Are we yet at the point where this is officially a prequel?   -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64551 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Goldsmith in his prime. .html With RISE about to come out, a part of me can't help wishing Goldsmith was still alive to have scored it.  Even though I'm happy about how well RISE looks to have come out, part of me is kind of sad.   Here's a You Tube video of Goldsmith in 1971, soon after doing ESCAPE, conducting the score for THE MEPHISTO WALTZ, probably on the very same stage he did the APES scores, and probably with some of the very same musicians.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpIKaW75ifI&feature=share   -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64552 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Conspiracy has shipped .html According to the email I just received from Barnes & Noble, my copy of CONSPIRACY ON THE PLANET OF THE APES has just shipped.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ goathunter@... http://www.goatley.com/hunter/ <.html Group: pota Message: 64553 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: New items on Hunter's site .html Hello! It's been a while since I've added anything to my Apes site, but the other day, I finally made time and added: - Scans of the UK Poster magazine from E. Francis Kohler and M. Harraway - Scans of an Apes article from VULCAN, a UK fan magazine, from M. Harraway - A cleaned up GO APE! poster by Dave Ballard Also, there's information there about a Kickstarter page for fellow Apes fan and filmmaker Sandy Collora's new project. https://pota.goatley.com/ Hunter <.html Group: pota Message: 64554 From: Stuart Drucker Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Conspiracy has shipped .html .html Hunter – is there an electronic version of this on B&N or Amazon’s Kindle?   Unfortunately, some of us are living in an increasingly brick and mortar literary desert, thanks to Borders going under.   Thanks, Stuart   From: pota@yahoogroups.com [pota@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hunter Goatley Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 1:21 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Conspiracy has shipped     According to the email I just received from Barnes & Noble, my copy of CONSPIRACY ON THE PLANET OF THE APES has just shipped.... Hunter ------ Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ goathunter@... http://www.goatley.com/hunter/ <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64555 From: Dan Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Reminder: GO APE event in Philadelphia on 7/31 .html Just a quick note to remind anyone who is in the area & might be interested: Exhumed Films in Philadelphia is screening all five of the original PLANET OF THE APES movies on Sunday, July 30. Admission is $20, doors open at 10am. The show will start promptly at 11am and will run until approximately 8:30 or 9pm. If you've never been to an Exhumed Films show, we try to make our screenings more of an "event" rather than just a showing of movies. In addition to the films, we'll also have some APES props and paraphernalia on display in the lobby, a local home made ice cream vendor who promises some "Ape-inspired" flavors, a table of rare cult, horror, & sci-fi DVDs for sale, prize giveaways, classic 35mm film trailers, and other surprises. Hopefully some POTA group members will be able to make it! You can find theater directions and purchase tickets from our website at www.exhumedfilms.com; a limited number of tickets will also be available at the door, but if you are coming from a distance and want to guarantee that you get in, purchasing advance tickets is your best bet. Thanks for reading, and I hope to see you at GO APE! Dan Fraga, Exhumed Films <.html Group: pota Message: 64556 From: John B Kirtley Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site .html .html Paul Williams in His "Planet of the Apes" Costume on "The Tonight ... Paul Williams appears in his "Battle for the Planet of the Apes" costume on "The Tonight Show" in 1973. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE2m355-JRo   From: Hunter Goatley Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:21 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] New items on Hunter's site     Hello! It's been a while since I've added anything to my Apes site, but the other day, I finally made time and added: - Scans of the UK Poster magazine from E. Francis Kohler and M. Harraway - Scans of an Apes article from VULCAN, a UK fan magazine, from M. Harraway - A cleaned up GO APE! poster by Dave Ballard Also, there's information there about a Kickstarter page for fellow Apes fan and filmmaker Sandy Collora's new project. https://pota.goatley.com/ Hunter <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64557 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site .html That was great! I never saw that clip before!   Bruce -----Original Message----- From: John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, Jul 22, 2011 3:03 pm Subject: Re: [pota] New items on Hunter's site   Paul Williams in His "Planet of the Apes" Costume on "The Tonight ... Paul Williams appears in his "Battle for the Planet of the Apes" costume on "The Tonight Show" in 1973. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE2m355-JRo   From: Hunter Goatley Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:21 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] New items on Hunter's site     Hello! It's been a while since I've added anything to my Apes site, but the other day, I finally made time and added: - Scans of the UK Poster magazine from E. Francis Kohler and M. Harraway - Scans of an Apes article from VULCAN, a UK fan magazine, from M. Harraway - A cleaned up GO APE! poster by Dave Ballard Also, there's information there about a Kickstarter page for fellow Apes fan and filmmaker Sandy Collora's new project. https://pota.goatley.com/ Hunter <.html Group: pota Message: 64558 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise" clip in better quality .html .html   I wish they wouldn't release entire scenes. I know they're proud of it, but I hate when they show too much.  I want it whole.   In a message dated 7/19/2011 11:53:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes: Here's the Lithgow clip <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64559 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Goldsmith in his prime. .html Like I said in a previous post "Christuss Apollo" by Goldsmith, Type in Jerry Goldsmith- Music for Orchestra and play the one with the white bars on the left and right is what his Beneath and other apes would have sounded like. He was going through alot of personel problems then but man does the music sound and feel like POTA or Beneath, Fantastique, Try it , John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote: > > > With RISE about to come out, a part of me can't help wishing Goldsmith was still alive to have scored it. Even though I'm happy about how well RISE looks to have come out, part of me is kind of sad. > > Here's a You Tube video of Goldsmith in 1971, soon after doing ESCAPE, conducting the score for THE MEPHISTO WALTZ, probably on the very same stage he did the APES scores, and probably with some of the very same musicians. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpIKaW75ifI&feature=share > > -- Rory > <.html Group: pota Message: 64560 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html .html   Is that him throwing his voice on the, "No!".   LOL!!!   In a message dated 7/20/2011 12:51:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes: Well, too each his own...:) John M. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64561 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise": Caesar is revolting! .html .html   I'm not even going to watch this. I'll see it in the movie at the theater.     In a message dated 7/20/2011 12:53:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:   Here's another clip introduced by Andy Serkis where Caesar rallies the troops. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64562 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Conspiracy has shipped .html Only other thing I would have added is a photo of a "makeup" Gorilla not a "masked" gorilla from Planet(Marcus, etc.) to make it complete. Good work, John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote: > > According to the email I just received from Barnes & Noble, my copy of > CONSPIRACY ON THE PLANET OF THE APES has just shipped.... > > Hunter > ------ > Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ > goathunter@... http://www.goatley.com/hunter/ > <.html Group: pota Message: 64563 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html .html   Roddy was at his best in Cleopatra. He would have won the Oscar too if he'd been in the right category.  He should have been in supporting actor.        In a message dated 7/20/2011 12:50:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes: I thought it was Roddy at his best. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64564 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE .html .html   It wasn't the CG in Kong that put me off. it was everything else.  If you're running from dinosaurs you will die.  And it won't take five minutes, it will take two, maybe.     In a message dated 7/20/2011 10:21:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes: I liked "King Kong" (2005) a lot, so it's not the CGI that's sort of putting me off on this movie... <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64565 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE .html .html   That was another thing.  The acting! way too sub par for a big movie. The list is long.  Long and painful.     In a message dated 7/21/2011 5:04:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes: The biggest "fake" thing in "KK '05" was Jack Black trying to act... <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64566 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise" clip in better quality .html That's why I'm not watching any "trailers" or "clips."  I want to enjoy the movie when it comes out without any "spoilers." C'mon it's only like two weeks away.   Bruce -----Original Message----- From: LordTZer0@... To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, Jul 22, 2011 5:47 pm Subject: Re: [pota] "Rise" clip in better quality     I wish they wouldn't release entire scenes. I know they're proud of it, but I hate when they show too much.  I want it whole.   In a message dated 7/19/2011 11:53:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes: Here's the Lithgow clip <.html Group: pota Message: 64567 From: Eric Payton Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html .html I meant at his best for the POTA series. Yes, he was great in Cleopatra. From: "LordTZer0@..." <LordTZer0@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 5:56:46 PM Subject: Re: [pota] Caesar conquest speech re-enacted     Roddy was at his best in Cleopatra. He would have won the Oscar too if he'd been in the right category.  He should have been in supporting actor.        In a message dated 7/20/2011 12:50:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes: I thought it was Roddy at his best. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64568 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise" clip in better quality .html Aw, there's plenty of movie left after the spoilers. I'd rather savor the movie over a month than gulp it all down at once. From: stenosaurus@... Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:32 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] "Rise" clip in better quality That's why I'm not watching any "trailers" or "clips." I want to enjoy the movie when it comes out without any "spoilers." C'mon it's only like two weeks away. Bruce <.html Group: pota Message: 64569 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Goldsmith in his prime. .html I doubt Goldsmith would have scored this anyway. Usually composers don't come back for the reboots. But if the music I heard at Caltech is from the actual score, there will be plenty of Goldsmith nods in Doyle's work. From: Haristas@... Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:30 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Goldsmith in his prime. With RISE about to come out, a part of me can't help wishing Goldsmith was still alive to have scored it. Even though I'm happy about how well RISE looks to have come out, part of me is kind of sad. Here's a You Tube video of Goldsmith in 1971, soon after doing ESCAPE, conducting the score for THE MEPHISTO WALTZ, probably on the very same stage he did the APES scores, and probably with some of the very same musicians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpIKaW75ifI&feature=share -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64570 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: 3 Ring Serkis at Comic Con .html Rupert Wyatt has called it a "prequel" in Sci-Fi Channel magazine. At Comic Con he just said they're "working towards the 1968 film". But I guess that's a moot point until we see what the box office is like. And whether Wyatt and Fox see eye to eye on the direction of sequels. There's already been a "Thor" sequel announced, but the director (Kenneth Branagh) won't be returning. And the movie got good notices. From: Haristas@... Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:24 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: 3 Ring Serkis at Comic Con Here's an good interview with director Wyatt and actor Serkis at Comic Con: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/07/from-gollum-to-gibbon-andy-serkis-talks-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/ And here's the press conference with the two (about 14 minutes): http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=80094 I haven't got time to watch this right now, but let me ask the question some really want to know, Did they say it's a prequel or what? Are we yet at the point where this is officially a prequel? -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64572 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE .html I always considered King Kong 05' as a sudo- comic adventure not to be taken to seriously but enjoyed. Just my opinion, John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote: > > > That was another thing. The acting! > way too sub par for a big movie. The > list is long. Long and painful. > > > > In a message dated 7/21/2011 5:04:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > mlccougar@... writes: > > The biggest "fake" thing in "KK '05" > was Jack Black trying to act... > <.html Group: pota Message: 64573 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html I thought it was Roddys best(Conquest), Period! John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote: > > I meant at his best for the POTA series. Yes, he was great in Cleopatra. > > > > > > <.html Group: pota Message: 64574 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Re: Goldsmith in his prime. .html I really meant his Beneath score if not for Patton. He was getting alittle to old by this time (Rise) but I could be wrong. Classical composers seem to go on forever and he is my favorite. A man who could thrive in so many orchestral styles. The 12 tone style is a frenetic and angry style, but unlike Rosenman (the 12 tone master for film scores))he could deversify easier, Bless Jerry, John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > I doubt Goldsmith would have scored this anyway. Usually composers don't come back for the reboots. > > But if the music I heard at Caltech is from the actual score, there will be plenty of Goldsmith nods in Doyle's work. > > > From: Haristas@... > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:30 AM > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [pota] Goldsmith in his prime. > > > > > With RISE about to come out, a part of me can't help wishing Goldsmith was still alive to have scored it. Even though I'm happy about how well RISE looks to have come out, part of me is kind of sad. > > Here's a You Tube video of Goldsmith in 1971, soon after doing ESCAPE, conducting the score for THE MEPHISTO WALTZ, probably on the very same stage he did the APES scores, and probably with some of the very same musicians. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpIKaW75ifI&feature=share > > -- Rory > <.html Group: pota Message: 64575 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/22/2011 Subject: Birthday Reminder .html .html Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group   Title:   Stan Hough was born on this day in 1918.   Date:   Saturday July 23, 2011 Time:   All Day Repeats:   This event repeats every year. Notes:   Producer POTA TV Series   Yahoo! Greetings:   Send a Yahoo! Greeting Yahoo! Shopping:   Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide   Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options Copyright © 2011  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved | <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64576 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html .html   John, you obviously hold "Conquest" in high regard; the music, everything. The more I see of "Rise", the more it reminds me of "Conquest" but on steroids, even the look. It hit me even more with that sizzle reel. The kind of Century City look. It really does look like how they would have filmed "Conquest" if they had the dough and the technology. Do you agree and do you dig that? From: JohnM conquest-idor Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 6:37 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted   I thought it was Roddys best(Conquest), Period! John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote: > > I meant at his best for the POTA series. Yes, he was great in Cleopatra. > > > > > > > From: "LordTZer0@..." <.html Group: pota Message: 64577 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA" .html .html I think I was more down on the November release than anything esle. So far I think this is great. Lovin every minute of it! :o)   Al From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: [pota] Re: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA"   Al has made the new HBO special available to mere mortals because, well, he is a god. http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/features/hbo_first_look.wmv/ Hey Al, I remember when you were kinda down on this new movie.  What do you think now?  Looking forward to seeing it?   -- Rory <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64578 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA" .html .html lol!   Al From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:12 PM Subject: [pota] HBO First Look: "Rise of the POTA"   Al has made the new HBO special available to mere mortals because, well, he is a god. http://www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes.com/features/hbo_first_look.wmv/ <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64579 From: johnroche49 Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes? .html Y'know, you're absolutely right.I never thought about that before.Why ARE the Orangs in that truck cage so unevolved? Apes never ceases to surprise me, even after all these years. John, Scrolls. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote: > > > You're kidding, right? Remember the BEFORE Orangs > in the cage with Caesar and the AFTER Orangs. There > has to be some enhancement there. More then the average > major league baseball player anyway. > > > > In a message dated 7/16/2011 5:33:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > johnroche49@... writes: > > I think, based on the fact that the Conquest Apes were their own > creatures, not created by Man > <.html Group: pota Message: 64580 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html I tried to post but their was a problem I hope no doulbles. As usual my wise and sagasious friend your correct. Take care and I hope life is good to you, its been alittle tough on me but were only given what we can handle, and this from an athesist. You friend always John. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > John, you obviously hold "Conquest" in high regard; the music, everything. The more I see of "Rise", the more it reminds me of "Conquest" but on steroids, even the look. It hit me even more with that sizzle reel. The kind of Century City look. It really does look like how they would have filmed "Conquest" if they had the dough and the technology. Do you agree and do you dig that? > > <.html Group: pota Message: 64582 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site .html Somewhere in the universe is Roddy McDowall's and Kim Hunter's appearance on "Johnny Carson" promoting ESCAPE with Baby Milo. -----Original Message----- From: John B Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 22, 2011 5:06 pm Subject: Re: [pota] New items on Hunter's site   Paul Williams in His "Planet of the Apes" Costume on "The Tonight ... Paul Williams appears in his "Battle for the Planet of the Apes" costume on "The Tonight Show" in 1973. www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE2m355-JRo   <.html Group: pota Message: 64583 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE .html I thought Peter Jackson's KING KONG pretty much sucked.  I have no interest in ever looking at it again.  If I'm in a Kong mood, I'll watch the original, hell, I'll even watch KK vs. Godzilla before I'd ever watch the Jackson turd again. -----Original Message----- From: LordTZer0 <LordTZer0@...> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 22, 2011 6:20 pm Subject: Re: [pota] The "The's" of RISE     It wasn't the CG in Kong that put me off. it was everything else.  If you're running from dinosaurs you will die.  And it won't take five minutes, it will take two, maybe.     In a message dated 7/20/2011 10:21:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes: I liked "King Kong" (2005) a lot, so it's not the CGI that's sort of putting me off on this movie... <.html Group: pota Message: 64584 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html Atheism seems pretty empty. When are people going to admit they just don't know. My religion is wait and see. "How many futures are there? Which future has God, if there is a God, chosen for Man's destiny?" - - - Hasslein 48:18 From: JohnM conquest-idor Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:24 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted I tried to post but their was a problem I hope no doulbles. As usual my wise and sagasious friend your correct. Take care and I hope life is good to you, its been alittle tough on me but were only given what we can handle, and this from an athesist. You friend always John. <.html Group: pota Message: 64585 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: 3 Ring Serkis at Comic Con .html Rupert Wyatt has called it a "prequel" in Sci-Fi Channel magazine. At Comic Con he just said they're "working towards the 1968 film". But I guess that's a moot point until we see what the box office is like. And whether Wyatt and Fox see eye to eye on the direction of sequels. That's all I need to hear for it to be "official" for me.   It's a prequel, and I think they will "work toward the 1968 film," but hopefully they'll take their time; there can be many stories in a two thousand year time span.   -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64586 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html John, you obviously hold "Conquest" in high regard; the music, everything. The more I see of "Rise", the more it reminds me of "Conquest" but on steroids, even the look. It hit me even more with that sizzle reel. The kind of Century City look. It really does look like how they would have filmed "Conquest" if they had the dough and the technology. Do you agree and do you dig that? I think I understand where some are coming from.  They love the fantasy apes of POTA, but real world apes they're not too crazy about.  So, until this new CGI APES has them more like old-school POTA apes (in probable sequels)... APES just ain't APES.   It ain't my attitude, but I can dig it.   -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64587 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE .html I love some of KONG2005. Jackson just got carried away with some of the jungle action. It gave WETA the experience to make "Rise" better. Fun Fact: Jackson is a POTA fan and was going to do a POTA movie with Roddy. I noted two POTA moments in "Kong". In the long version one of the military dudes says something like, "This is New York. It was made for humans, not for stinkin' apes!" And at the end there's 3 military guys smiling and getting their pictures taken in front of Kong like the "Smile!" scene in POTA. From: Haristas@... Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:29 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: The "The's" of RISE I thought Peter Jackson's KING KONG pretty much sucked. I have no interest in ever looking at it again. If I'm in a Kong mood, I'll watch the original, hell, I'll even watch KK vs. Godzilla before I'd ever watch the Jackson turd again. <.html Group: pota Message: 64588 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html Atheism seems pretty empty. When are people going to admit they just don't know. My religion is wait and see. "How many futures are there? Which future has God, if there is a God, chosen for Man's destiny?" - - - Hasslein 48:18 I usually tell people I'm agnostic (to be less offensive to the weak-minded), but I'm actually atheistic, but I'm only an atheist in this sense; I don't know anything, but I sure as hell know that man's inventions are only the inventions of man, and if man went extinct tomorrow, then as man perceives him, God goes extinct too.   -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64589 From: Eric Payton Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html .html John, Now that I think about it, I'm going to agree with you. Roddy's performance in Cleopatra received a lot of attention because the movie as a grand historical epic. It doesn't mean that any of his performances thereafter weren't up to that level. Critics just aren't going to nominate a prosthetic-wearing actor for a major award....just like Andy Serkis likely will not get nominated being a CG actor despite great past performances and an upcoming performance in "Rise" that apparently put some crew members into tears. From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 9:37:40 PM Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted   I thought it was Roddys best(Conquest), Period! John M. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64590 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html John, Now that I think about it, I'm going to agree with you. Roddy's performance in Cleopatra received a lot of attention because the movie as a grand historical epic. It doesn't mean that any of his performances thereafter weren't up to that level. Critics just aren't going to nominate a prosthetic-wearing actor for a major award....just like Andy Serkis likely will not get nominated being a CG actor despite great past performances and an upcoming performance in "Rise" that apparently put some crew members into tears. Any of you here seen LORD LOVE A DUCK or THE LEGEND OF HELL HOUSE? <.html Group: pota Message: 64591 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes? .html *** So you're saying that they were changed from the Orangutans in the cage to the Orangutans being processed thru APE MANAGEMENT in the snap of a finger? *** In a message dated 7/22/2011 11:26:52 AM Central Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes: > You're kidding, right? Remember the BEFORE Orangs > in the cage with Caesar and the AFTER Orangs. There > has to be some enhancement there. More then the average > major league baseball player anyway. > > > In a message dated 7/16/2011 5:33:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > johnroche49@... writes: > > >> I think, based on the fact that the Conquest Apes were their own >> creatures, not created by Man > > </HTML> <.html Group: pota Message: 64592 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE .html *** To each their own... I didn't mind the acting (mostly) with exception of Jack Black... I will say the first hour could have been trimmed down though... *** In a message dated 7/22/2011 5:20:19 PM Central Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes: > That was another thing. The acting! > way too sub par for a big movie. The > list is long. Long and painful. > > > In a message dated 7/21/2011 5:04:03 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > mlccougar@... writes: > > >> The biggest "fake" thing in "KK '05" >> was Jack Black trying to act... > > </HTML> <.html Group: pota Message: 64593 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes? .html Poor costuming and (probably) budgetary constraints... In a message dated 7/23/2011 6:52:50 AM Central Daylight Time, johnroche49@... writes: > Why ARE the Orangs in that truck cage so unevolved? </HTML> <.html Group: pota Message: 64594 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes? .html Yes, the orangs go from the cage through Ape Management training and come out POTA apes. After the genetic shot. : ) From: mlccougar@... Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:11 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [pota] Changing Attitudes? *** So you're saying that they were changed from the Orangutans in the cage to the Orangutans being processed thru APE MANAGEMENT in the snap of a finger? *** <.html Group: pota Message: 64595 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html I'm currently reading "Divinity of Doubt" by Vincent Bugliosi, where the Charles Manson prosecutor demolishes both sides, theists and atheists alike. Fun fact: "Agnostic" was coined by Thomas Huxley, "Darwin's Bulldog", who advanced the theory of evolution and was the namesake of one of Jane Goodall's famous chimps. His grandson Aldous wrote the sci-fi classic "Brave New World" and the proto-POTA satire "Ape and Essence". From: Haristas@... Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 10:17 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted Atheism seems pretty empty. When are people going to admit they just don't know. My religion is wait and see. "How many futures are there? Which future has God, if there is a God, chosen for Man's destiny?" - - - Hasslein 48:18 I usually tell people I'm agnostic (to be less offensive to the weak-minded), but I'm actually atheistic, but I'm only an atheist in this sense; I don't know anything, but I sure as hell know that man's inventions are only the inventions of man, and if man went extinct tomorrow, then as man perceives him, God goes extinct too. -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64596 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html I believe that man created God and not the other way around. We are a superstitious and frightened animal and because we know our own mortatlity and we think we are something special we choose to create Gods and Monsters to pacify our reptilian brains, where the fear of strangers and ignorance and the fear of others are located. Sorry for threadcapping but that is also a theme of the original Apes in that "God created the Ape in his own image". Im not a communist but relgion is the "opiate of the masses"(slightly misquated) nowhere is it more true than this country where if you believe and God and Guns and have a disdain for the working man you will get elected over the canadate that truly cares for social problems of human beings but does not have a relgious foundation. I hope if sequels ever happen to "Rise" ideas like these are furthur explored in a manner of the original Apes series. God Bless, John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > Atheism seems pretty empty. When are people going to admit they just don't know. My religion is wait and see. > > "How many futures are there? Which future has God, if there is a God, chosen for Man's destiny?" - - - Hasslein 48:18 > > > > From: JohnM conquest-idor > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:24 AM > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted > > > > I tried to post but their was a problem I hope no doulbles. As usual my wise and sagasious friend your correct. Take care and I hope life is good to you, its been alittle tough on me but were only given what we can handle, and this from an athesist. You friend always John. > <.html Group: pota Message: 64597 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes? .html Thats all it was, really. The budgets showing their true ugly faces again. Take care, John. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote: > > Poor costuming and (probably) budgetary constraints... > > > > In a message dated 7/23/2011 6:52:50 AM Central Daylight Time, > johnroche49@... writes: > > > > Why ARE the Orangs in that truck cage so unevolved? > > </HTML> > <.html Group: pota Message: 64598 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html Thanks. His performance thru all the layers of foam was fantastic and was probably one of the few performances from the original series that was the most "Human". Take Care, John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote: > > John, > > Now that I think about it, I'm going to agree with you. Roddy's performance in > Cleopatra received a lot of attention because the movie as a grand historical > epic. It doesn't mean that any of his performances thereafter weren't up to that > level. Critics just aren't going to nominate a prosthetic-wearing actor for a > major award....just like Andy Serkis likely will not get nominated being a CG > actor despite great past performances and an upcoming performance in "Rise" that > apparently put some crew members into tears. > > > > > > <.html Group: pota Message: 64599 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday .html The new "Apes" flick will have it's big premiere Thursday at the famous Chinese Theater (the one with all the footprints) in Hollyweird. http://www.thevipconcierge.com/VIPEvents/299/Rise-of-the-Planet-of-the-Apes-Movie-Premiere--After-Party-Tickets.aspx <.html Group: pota Message: 64600 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: official "Rise"clips on youtube .html Here's two recent "Rise" clips officially released in good quality on youtube. Whatsa matter? You afraid of spoilers? (makes a sound like a chicken) Bawk! Bawk! Bawk! Saying goodbye to James Franco (you'd be sad too, he is sooo cute!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfiLpPkT3n8 Scaring the crap out of that "Harry Potter" punk (who's movie is # 2 this weekend, Haw!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1lO2hLjOfM <.html Group: pota Message: 64601 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Birthday Reminder .html .html Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group   Title:   Linda Harrison's Birthday   Date:   Sunday July 24, 2011 Time:   All Day Repeats:   This event repeats every year.   Yahoo! Greetings:   Send a Yahoo! Greeting Yahoo! Shopping:   Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide   Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options Copyright © 2011  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved | <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64602 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/23/2011 Subject: Caesar, too Human? .html Somehow as I watch the trailers, snippetts and all the new great clips Im starting to get alittle wierd about him(Caesar). The scene where he gesture Will to join him in the playground cage , which is just a front, gets me alittle unearved. Im starting to feel like Breck(Conquest) about the Apes. An unknown predjudice that bothers me. Serkis is really doing his job well. To be honest I feel like smacking him to grow up in a certain way even though I never touched my three kids at all. They(the filmakers) did prove in a way that we are predjudiced against anybody or thing that threatins us. Ofcourse I havent seen the whole film so this is just a stupid call on my part but I dont like being told what to do by an animal, or anybody else for that matter. Im kind of ashamed about my reaction since I always rooted for the Apes no matter what. I cant explain it.. Take care, John M. <.html Group: pota Message: 64603 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: New Galleries .html .html New Galleries at:   Comic-Con Trailer Pics:   Featurette Pics:   I'll tweet on it tomorrow along with a full list of TV Appearances coming up: Enjoy   Al <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64604 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar, too Human? .html .html  Caesar wants Will to join him because he's afraid. I thought that was a really well done detail. The director said the movie is about a loss of innocence and how the relationship between Will and Caesar changes. Caesar grows up kind of sheltered. Both the director and Serkis compared him to gifted kids who don't know they're gifted. It sounds like a real good character arc, from innocent to toughened up leader. Like I said, and the director agreed with me, Moses. The original Caesar was like that too, raised in a circus living a sheltered life. Remember when Armando told him he'd have to disappear among his own kind and Caesar cried. "Rise" is really modeled on the originals, especially "Escape" and "Conquest".   It remains to be seen if audiences will accept it, since in big numbers they go for easy black and white villains and heroes. Caesar is more ambiguous, not the easy character of something like "Transformers". It looks like there will be blood in this movie. From: JohnM conquest-idor Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 8:24 PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Caesar, too Human?   Somehow as I watch the trailers, snippetts and all the new great clips Im starting to get alittle wierd about him(Caesar). The scene where he gesture Will to join him in the playground cage , which is just a front, gets me alittle unearved. Im starting to feel like Breck(Conquest) about the Apes. An unknown predjudice that bothers me. Serkis is really doing his job well. To be honest I feel like smacking him to grow up in a certain way even though I never touched my three kids at all. They(the filmakers) did prove in a way that we are predjudiced against anybody or thing that threatins us. Ofcourse I havent seen the whole film so this is just a stupid call on my part but I dont like being told what to do by an animal, or anybody else for that matter. Im kind of ashamed about my reaction since I always rooted for the Apes no matter what. I cant explain it.. Take care, John M. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64605 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: new "Rise" galleries .html .html   Al has added a gallery for the Comic Con sizzle reel:       And a gallery for the recent clips:       Way to go, Al! <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64606 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: HBO First Look on site .html .html   Those who want to see the "HBO First Look" about "Rise", it's now very findable at Al's site. Highly recommended.   Spoilers? Perhaps, nothing major. Lays out the story. Mostly behind the scenes stuff.     Group: pota Message: 64607 From: James Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" .html .html FYI   Google Alert - "planet of the apes"   Watch 10 Minutes Of Angry Monkey Footage From Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes Cinema Blend I may be the only one, but I really miss the guys in giant monkey suits from the classic Planet of the Apes movies. I'm having a hard time taking photorealistic chimps run amok seriously, in most of the footage from Rise of the Planet of the Apes. ... See all stories on this topic » Andy Serkis on What it Takes to Become a Chimp Wall Street Journal (blog) By Dennis Nishi The coming film “Rise of the Planet of the Apes” isn't the first role that required Andy Serkis to knuckle-walk. The 47-year-old English actor is best known for playing the hunched Gollum in the “Lord of the Rings” film trilogy, ... See all stories on this topic » Comic-Con 2011: The 20th Century Fox Panel: Foxy Lady Poptimal.com Last but not least was an early look at Rise of the Planet of the Apes, set to release in August. The presentation, hosted by panelist and star Andy Serkis, gave a great deal of insight into a film that looks flimsy and superficial based on its trailer ... See all stories on this topic » In Man Vs. Nature, Fox Sides With the Furry Guys New York Times (blog) Mr. Lindelof, who voiced the usual nostalgia about his visits to Comic-Con back in the old days — that would be the mid-1990s — was referring to the distinctly pro-simian sentiment underlying “Rise of the Planet of the Apes,” which is set to open ... See all stories on this topic »   <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64608 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes? .html Yes, the orangs go from the cage through Ape Management training and come out POTA apes. After the genetic shot. : ) They must have got that "shot" soon after capture, because even as they're being led into Ape Management they're starting to change.   -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64609 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday .html The new "Apes" flick will have it's big premiere Thursday at the famous Chinese Theater (the one with all the footprints) in Hollyweird. http://www.thevipconcierge.com/VIPEvents/299/Rise-of-the-Planet-of-the-Apes-Movie-Premiere--After-Party-Tickets.aspx Jeff, will you be there at the red carpet, perhaps getting some interviews with the cast and crew and all the celebrities?  Maybe you and Joan Rivers can discus the gowns?  Can we expect a live pod cast?  Maybe Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie will be there!!!!  And you've got to crash one of those after parties!  Maybe Mila Kunis would be your date?  Ask her! <.html Group: pota Message: 64610 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site .html Interesting timing on this. The clip was just released on Tuesday. I wonder if they are trying to benefit from the hype for the new film. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John B Kirtley" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote: > > Paul Williams in His "Planet of the Apes" Costume on "The Tonight ... > Paul Williams appears in his "Battle for the Planet of the Apes" costume on "The Tonight Show" in 1973. > www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE2m355-JRo > <.html Group: pota Message: 64611 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes? .html .html   Basically because the Prohaskas were still working the series, though I can't think why.  Heloise was passable, but that zoo gorilla?  Of course the real answer is Ape Management cooked up a shot of DNA they made from the bodies of Zira & Cornelius to genetically enhance apes they'd brought in to turn into slaves!      In a message dated 7/23/2011 6:52:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnroche49@... writes: Why ARE the Orangs in that truck cage so unevolved? <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64612 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: New items on Hunter's site .html .html  I looked.  It's not there.  For a while you could request a copy of any Tonight Show you wanted. I guess they aren't doing that anymore.  Too bad.     In a message dated 7/23/2011 10:33:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes: Somewhere in the universe is Roddy McDowall's and Kim Hunter's appearance on "Johnny Carson" promoting ESCAPE with Baby Milo. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64613 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html .html   I always watch them whenever they're on.     In a message dated 7/23/2011 2:45:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes: Any of you here seen LORD LOVE A DUCK or THE LEGEND OF HELL HOUSE? <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64614 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html .html   I wouldn't be so sure.     In a message dated 7/23/2011 12:46:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes: Andy Serkis likely will not get nominated being a CG actor despite great past performances <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64615 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar, too Human? .html It remains to be seen if audiences will accept it This movie is going to be huge, HUGE!!! <.html Group: pota Message: 64616 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: The "The's" of RISE .html .html   There might be a decent movie in there somewhere, but Jackson had carte blanch after LOTR.  He should have been reigned in by the studio a little and saved a big chunk of that movie for the directors cut.     In a message dated 7/23/2011 4:32:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes: *** To each their own... I didn't mind the acting (mostly) with exception of Jack Black... I will say the first hour could have been trimmed down though... *** <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64617 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Changing Attitudes? .html .html   See!  I'm not the only one thinking like that.   In a message dated 7/23/2011 5:49:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes: Yes, the orangs go from the cage through Ape Management training and come out POTA apes. After the genetic shot. : ) <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64618 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html .html   For someone who enjoys movies about time-traveling talking apes that seems very narrow minded.  Whether you go to the next scale up or very small down to the quantum level, you must admit, there's more here than meets the eye.  If you wish you can think of God as an anagram foe Good Orderly Direction.  It may seem chaotic, but it got us this far.  You're either a pessimist or an optimist. I for one have faith that Man's better nature will win out over the beast within.     In a message dated 7/23/2011 8:23:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes:   I believe that man created God and not the other way around. We are a superstitious and frightened animal and because we know our own mortatlity and we think we are something special we choose to create Gods and Monsters to pacify our reptilian brains, where the fear of strangers and ignorance and the fear of others are located. Sorry for threadcapping but that is also a theme of the original Apes in that "God created the Ape in his own image". Im not a communist but relgion is the "opiate of the masses"(slightly misquated) nowhere is it more true than this country where if you believe and God and Guns and have a disdain for the working man you will get elected over the canadate that truly cares for social problems of human beings but does not have a relgious foundation. I hope if sequels ever happen to "Rise" ideas like these are furthur explored in a manner of the original Apes series. God Bless, John M. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64619 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday .html No! It's not like it's "Twilight" or something. Get your priorities straight. From: Haristas@... Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:10 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday Jeff, will you be there at the red carpet, perhaps getting some interviews with the cast and crew and all the celebrities? Maybe you and Joan Rivers can discus the gowns? Can we expect a live pod cast? Maybe Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie will be there!!!! And you've got to crash one of those after parties! Maybe Mila Kunis would be your date? Ask her! <.html Group: pota Message: 64620 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html I just call it as I see it. Im neither a pessemist or an optimist Im just me. Man is a violent animal, incredibly violent. If not for the music and technical leaps we take because of our wonderous Brain we are worthless, even less, a scurge on this planet...John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote: > > For someone who enjoys movies about time-traveling talking apes > that seems very narrow minded. Whether you go to the next scale > up or very small down to the quantum level, you must admit, there's > more here than meets the eye. If you wish you can think of God as > an anagram foe Good Orderly Direction. It may seem chaotic, but > it got us this far. You're either a pessimist or an optimist. I for one > have faith that Man's better nature will win out over the beast within. > > > <.html Group: pota Message: 64621 From: James Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: FW: happy birthday linda harrison .html Attachments : nova - Copy-64621.jpg nova - Copy-64621(1).jpg Linda_Harrison2-64621.jpg Linda_Harrison2-64621(1).jpg .html From: William Burge Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 10:59 AM Subject: happy birthday linda harrison   dear group, here is my birthday tribute to linda harrison. from william burge   <.html <.html   @@attachment@@ Group: pota Message: 64622 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday .html True. Most hard core Apes fans are over 40 or 50 and getting them out my be a challenge. Their are many younger fans though as I remember at the Zeigfield in NY in 2001 but its an audience that is very non-linear and its anyone guess how the turnout will be. It might all be "Ill wait for the Bluray/DVD", though Ill be their on day one in Manhattan, go old NY,NY...John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote: > > No! It's not like it's "Twilight" or something. Get your priorities straight. > > > From: Haristas@... > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:10 AM > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday > > > Jeff, will you be there at the red carpet, perhaps getting some interviews with the cast and crew and all the celebrities? Maybe you and Joan Rivers can discus the gowns? Can we expect a live pod cast? Maybe Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie will be there!!!! And you've got to crash one of those after parties! Maybe Mila Kunis would be your date? Ask her! > <.html Group: pota Message: 64623 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted .html I'm with Dr. Zaius when it comes to the subject of mankind.  I think we're at a tipping point in the history of animal life on this planet, and man is proving to be a scourge and his own worst enemy.  The number one problem that mankind has... is mankind!  Even with all the technology and wonderful scientific discoveries of the last couple centuries, mankind is on the road to self-destruction.  Nothing is being done to check world population growth and that's what's slowly killing us. -----Original Message----- From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sun, Jul 24, 2011 11:11 am Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted   I just call it as I see it. Im neither a pessimist or an optimist Im just me. Man is a violent animal, incredibly violent. If not for the music and technical leaps we take because of our wondrous Brain we are worthless, even less, a scourge on this planet...John M. --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote: > > For someone who enjoys movies about time-traveling talking apes > that seems very narrow minded. Whether you go to the next scale > up or very small down to the quantum level, you must admit, there's > more here than meets the eye. If you wish you can think of God as > an anagram foe Good Orderly Direction. It may seem chaotic, but > it got us this far. You're either a pessimist or an optimist. I for one > have faith that Man's better nature will win out over the beast within. > > > <.html Group: pota Message: 64624 From: rassmguy Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: The homepage pic .html James, the "Pizza Pizza" gag is very funny. It took me a moment, but then I cracked up. Nicely played. <.html Group: pota Message: 64625 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday .html True. Most hard core Apes fans are over 40 or 50 and getting them out my be a challenge. Their are many younger fans though as I remember at the Zeigfield in NY in 2001 but its an audience that is very non-linear and its anyone guess how the turnout will be. It might all be "Ill wait for the Bluray/DVD", though Ill be their on day one in Manhattan, go old NY,NY...John M. I think RISE is going to present so much more story and character development than every other movie out this summer, that the public is going to flock to this movie.  People like animals and they are going to like Caesar.  I think RISE is going to create a whole new generation of APES fans.   And, as with ESCAPE, you better bring some Kleenex to this movie.  RISE will make you cry.  Even Jeff Krueger will cry.   Wait till we hear from the critics.  These are the quotes I expect.  "A Masterpiece!  One of the Best Pieces of Science Fiction to come out of Hollywood in Years!"  "The Best Movie of the Summer!"  "The Must-See Movie Event of the Summer."  "Better than AVATAR (even without 3-D)."  "If you don't go see this movie -- You don't care about movies!"   I even expect to see, though I won't agree with it, "Better than the original PLANET OF THE APES."   I went to go see CAPTAIN AMERICA yesterday, which is a nothing of a movie, and the trailer for RISE comes on before the movie.  People behind me were saying, "Well, that's another one we HAVE to go to."   Yeah, RISE is going to be HUGE!   -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64626 From: Eric Payton Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Caesar, too Human? .html .html I'm always for the apes....in POTA and real life. I am a supporter of the Great Ape Project and currently massing an army of apes to overtake humankind. The problem is with the bonobos: they just want to make love and not war. Totally botching my plans!! :) From: JohnM conquest-idor <johnmermigas@...> To: pota@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, July 23, 2011 11:24:44 PM Subject: [pota] Caesar, too Human?   Somehow as I watch the trailers, snippetts and all the new great clips Im starting to get alittle wierd about him(Caesar). The scene where he gesture Will to join him in the playground cage , which is just a front, gets me alittle unearved. Im starting to feel like Breck(Conquest) about the Apes. An unknown predjudice that bothers me. Serkis is really doing his job well. To be honest I feel like smacking him to grow up in a certain way even though I never touched my three kids at all. They(the filmakers) did prove in a way that we are predjudiced against anybody or thing that threatins us. Ofcourse I havent seen the whole film so this is just a stupid call on my part but I dont like being told what to do by an animal, or anybody else for that matter. Im kind of ashamed about my reaction since I always rooted for the Apes no matter what. I cant explain it.. Take care, John M. <.html <.html Group: pota Message: 64627 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: 3 new clips "Rise" .html No spoilers, just action stuff. http://www.movieweb.com/news/three-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-clips <.html Group: pota Message: 64628 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday .html I dunno. People seem pretty cynical about the CG apes and the idea of "monkeys" taking over. But they'll swallow as many superheroes and zombies as Hollywood can dish out. But the Lithgow clip seemed to move some people. From: Haristas@... Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:34 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday True. Most hard core Apes fans are over 40 or 50 and getting them out my be a challenge. Their are many younger fans though as I remember at the Zeigfield in NY in 2001 but its an audience that is very non-linear and its anyone guess how the turnout will be. It might all be "Ill wait for the Bluray/DVD", though Ill be their on day one in Manhattan, go old NY,NY...John M. I think RISE is going to present so much more story and character development than every other movie out this summer, that the public is going to flock to this movie. People like animals and they are going to like Caesar. I think RISE is going to create a whole new generation of APES fans. And, as with ESCAPE, you better bring some Kleenex to this movie. RISE will make you cry. Even Jeff Krueger will cry. Wait till we hear from the critics. These are the quotes I expect. "A Masterpiece! One of the Best Pieces of Science Fiction to come out of Hollywood in Years!" "The Best Movie of the Summer!" "The Must-See Movie Event of the Summer." "Better than AVATAR (even without 3-D)." "If you don't go see this movie -- You don't care about movies!" I even expect to see, though I won't agree with it, "Better than the original PLANET OF THE APES." I went to go see CAPTAIN AMERICA yesterday, which is a nothing of a movie, and the trailer for RISE comes on before the movie. People behind me were saying, "Well, that's another one we HAVE to go to." Yeah, RISE is going to be HUGE! -- Rory <.html Group: pota Message: 64629 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: Conspiracy has shipped .html Hi, Stuart. > Hunter - is there an electronic version of this on B&N or Amazon's Kindle? No, there doesn't appear to be one. > Unfortunately, some of us are living in an increasingly brick and mortar > literary desert, thanks to Borders going under. I have a B&N, but I don't expect them to carry this, so I ordered it from them. Hunter <.html Group: pota Message: 64630 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/24/2011 Subject: Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday .html *** I'm predicting mildly to moderately successful at best... There seems to be a lot of confusion out there as to what this movie is (prequel? reboot? a remake of CONQUEST?) so that's not helping anything... Plus, a lot of comments I've been reading seem to be split on the CGI apes... *** > From: Haristas@... > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 9:34 AM > To: pota@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise of the POTA" premiere is Thursday > > > Yeah, RISE is going to be HUGE! </HTML> <.html