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Dates: 2008-03-18 through 2008-04-01

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Prev   47925 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47926 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47927 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47928 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47929 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47930 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Arthur C. Clarke RIP
Group: potadg Message: 47931 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47932 From: atragon1@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47933 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47934 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47935 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47936 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47937 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Here's an odd one
Group: potadg Message: 47938 From: Dario Sciola Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47939 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Here's an odd one
Group: potadg Message: 47940 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47941 From: TERRY HOKNES Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47942 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47943 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47944 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47945 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47946 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47947 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47948 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47949 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47950 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 47951 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: What makes YOU a planet of the Apes fan?
Group: potadg Message: 47952 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47953 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47954 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47955 From: John Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47956 From: atragon1@aol.com Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47957 From: Neil Date: 3/21/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47958 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/21/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47959 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/21/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 47960 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47961 From: Graham Hill Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47962 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47963 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47964 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47965 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke RIP
Group: potadg Message: 47966 From: grotowski666 Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
Group: potadg Message: 47967 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
Group: potadg Message: 47968 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke RIP
Group: potadg Message: 47969 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
Group: potadg Message: 47970 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
Group: potadg Message: 47971 From: John Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
Group: potadg Message: 47972 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
Group: potadg Message: 47973 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: MEGO/APES store appearances.
Group: potadg Message: 47974 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
Group: potadg Message: 47975 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke RIP
Group: potadg Message: 47976 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47977 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47978 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 47979 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47980 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47981 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Go Ape! pressbook
Group: potadg Message: 47982 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 47983 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47984 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 47985 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 47986 From: Dario Sciola Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 47987 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 47988 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 47989 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 47990 From: Graham Hill Date: 3/26/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47991 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/26/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47992 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/26/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47993 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/26/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47994 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/26/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
Group: potadg Message: 47995 From: John Date: 3/26/2008
Subject: 2nd series of repo-apes
Group: potadg Message: 47996 From: John Date: 3/26/2008
Subject: World of Longmire
Group: potadg Message: 47997 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/26/2008
Subject: Re: World of Longmire
Group: potadg Message: 47998 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/27/2008
Subject: Re: Some links I came across this weekend--anybody see these?
Group: potadg Message: 47999 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 3/27/2008
Subject: Re: World of Longmire
Group: potadg Message: 48000 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/27/2008
Subject: Re: World of Longmire
Group: potadg Message: 48001 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/27/2008
Subject: Re: World of Longmire
Group: potadg Message: 48002 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/27/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 48003 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/27/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 48004 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/28/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 48005 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/28/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 48006 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/28/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
Group: potadg Message: 48007 From: grotowski666 Date: 3/29/2008
Subject: Originalprop.com
Group: potadg Message: 48008 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/29/2008
Subject: Re: Originalprop.com
Group: potadg Message: 48009 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 3/29/2008
Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke RIP
Group: potadg Message: 48010 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/30/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 48011 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Is it just me?.....
Group: potadg Message: 48012 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Is it just me?.....
Group: potadg Message: 48013 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/31/2008
Subject: Re: Is it just me?.....
Group: potadg Message: 48014 From: nlmoxham Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Is it just me?.....
Group: potadg Message: 48015 From: John Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: Is it just me?.....
Group: potadg Message: 48016 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
Group: potadg Message: 48017 From: Neil Foster Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
Group: potadg Message: 48018 From: bigapefan62 Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
Group: potadg Message: 48019 From: Neil Foster Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
Group: potadg Message: 48020 From: nlmoxham Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
Group: potadg Message: 48021 From: Neil Foster Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
Group: potadg Message: 48022 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
Group: potadg Message: 48023 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
Group: potadg Message: 48024 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
Subject: Re: WonderCon 2



Group: potadg Message: 47925 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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like there is a dog in the tv series.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "bigapefan62" <bigapefan62@...> wrote:
>
> yes but don't forget we are talking about a movie series that was
> stopped by destroying the world....and then there was three
sequels,
> a tv series, a cartoon and a remake!
>
> There are so many inconsistencies in the whole series that I would
> not be at all suprised to see the cats explained somehow buyt yes
it
> would take explaining.
>
> Mandy
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, atragon1@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > I totally agree Mandy, with only the issue of the cats (remember
> all dogs &
> > cats were wiped out in the POTA-verse), I see no reason why the
> dome city
> > could have existed in the remains of DC - just a couple of days
> ride south of
> > Ape City.
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 3/16/2008 1:19:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > bigapefan62@ writes:
> >
> > When i saw LR I wondered if they might run into apes ouside the
> dome!
> > I seee no reason why this could not be a possibility for someone
> with
> > imagination.
> >
> > Mandy
> >
> > --- In _PotaDG@_ (mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com) ,
> > atragon1@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > These are 2 of my favorite 70's scifi films. Do you think they
> could
> > exist
> > > in the same universe?
> > > We already had some debates on LOGAN's RUN and POTA. How about
> these
> > > 2...Patrick?
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL
> Money &
> > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)
> >
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47926 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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-- I think all the over analysing of Apes is ruining it for me. Who cares if there are inconsistencies? So there is a dog in the TV series and 'that page' in the book that they look at and all the other cock-ups they made throughout the movies.
As far as I'm concerned the TV series is part of the same looped timeline as the movies (which is a circle for me) and I really don't care about little things that are 'wrong'. A little bit of imagination and creative thinking can overcome all the faults if one wishes to really make the effort but I just can't be bothered anymore. I just watch the movies etc. and try to enjoy them as much as I used to (which isn't easy these days).
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bigapefan62
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000

like there is a dog in the tv series.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "bigapefan62" <bigapefan62@ ...> wrote:
>
> yes but don't forget we are talking about a movie series that was
> stopped by destroying the world....and then there was three
sequels,
> a tv series, a cartoon and a remake!
>
> There are so many inconsistencies in the whole series that I would
> not be at all suprised to see the cats explained somehow buyt yes
it
> would take explaining.

.

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Group: potadg Message: 47927 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- Sorry, can't at the moment.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bigapefan62
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update

Y'know you really should show us some of it !

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Group: potadg Message: 47928 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- Why? Yes Scrolls does have some great interviews and things like the latest fantastic strip by their artist Mike McColm but they also pad it out with a fair amount of rubbish.
All those interviews with Apes related people who spend the whole interview saying how they don't really remember a lot about it or it was 'just another job' etc. Or that awful Janet of the Apes thing.
I know they must put a lot of time and effort into it but luckily for them they have had little or no competition over the years.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ape Chronicles update

I back SIMIAN SCROLLS all the way
.

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Group: potadg Message: 47929 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- And is there a completion date in sight for this yet?
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ape Chronicles update

I and another member of a different board are also still trying to compile the radio spots, etc.,
.

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Group: potadg Message: 47930 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Arthur C. Clarke RIP
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A sad loss, another one of the greats dies. At least he had a good long life.
 
Neil
 
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Group: potadg Message: 47931 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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> -- Why? Yes Scrolls does have some great interviews and things like the
> latest fantastic strip by their artist Mike McColm but they also pad it
> out with a fair amount of rubbish.
> All those interviews with Apes related people who spend the whole
> interview saying how they don't really remember a lot about it or it was
> 'just another job' etc.

I've actually found most (but not all) of those interviews interesting
despite that.

> Or that awful Janet of the Apes thing.

Agreed, that is rubbish.

Hunter
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Group: potadg Message: 47932 From: atragon1@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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On the contrary, its the over-analysis that makes this forum so entertaining. Looking for reasons why the dog could exist in the TV series, or the variances in Cornelius' testimony and the events that actually play out in CONQUEST and BATTLE are the backbone of this group - remember its a POTA Discussion Group,
Bill
 
In a message dated 3/18/2008 4:40:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- I think all the over analysing of Apes is ruining it for me. Who cares if there are inconsistencies? So there is a dog in the TV series and 'that page' in the book that they look at and all the other cock-ups they made throughout the movies.
As far as I'm concerned the TV series is part of the same looped timeline as the movies (which is a circle for me) and I really don't care about little things that are 'wrong'. A little bit of imagination and creative thinking can overcome all the faults if one wishes to really make the effort but I just can't be bothered anymore. I just watch the movies etc. and try to enjoy them as much as I used to (which isn't easy these days).
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of bigapefan62
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000

like there is a dog in the tv series.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "bigapefan62" <bigapefan62@ ...> wrote:
>
> yes but don't forget we are talking about a movie series that was
> stopped by destroying the world....and then there was three
sequels,
> a tv series, a cartoon and a remake!
>
> There are so many inconsistencies in the whole series that I would
> not be at all suprised to see the cats explained somehow buyt yes
it
> would take explaining.

.

 




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Group: potadg Message: 47933 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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.html In a message dated 3/18/2008 3:20:29 PM Central Daylight Time, bigapefan62@... writes:


but when I downloaded that audio "brokenscrolls" i think it is called
I felt violated.  It was a bit like the power records but written by
someone who never seen the movies, i can't get why someone whould do
that to planet of the apes.


*** That's the BROKENSEAS adaption, and to hear the guy who wrote and "starred" in it, he acts as though he is the biggest APES fan ever... The POWER records are way above that piece of sh*t. I feel exactly the way that you do: Why would anyone do that to PLANET? My guess: To make himself look important and like he's a mega-fan trying to improve upon perfection. ***



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Group: potadg Message: 47934 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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.html In a message dated 3/18/2008 3:50:41 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:


-- Why? Yes Scrolls does have some great interviews and things like the latest fantastic strip by their artist Mike McColm but they also pad it out with a fair amount of rubbish.


*** Well, that sure as hell beats that "glossory of the POTA " or whatever it was that AC had in a couple of issues...

C: Cow, the animal that gave birth to calves in "The Good Seeds"
   Chicken, a bird seen in the barnyard of the set of "THE gOOD sEEDS"
B: Burke, a TV series astronaut
   Brown, the color of the dirt in "The Good Seeds"
A: Alan (Virdon's first name)
V: Virdon (Alan's last name)

Etc. etc.



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Group: potadg Message: 47935 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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.html *** No, not yet... He was supposed to be getting a few things in, but apparently the guy either "forgot" about it or never got around to doing it yet. ***


In a message dated 3/18/2008 3:54:20 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:



-- And is there a completion date in sight for this yet?

Neil



-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 9:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ape Chronicles update


I and another member of a different board are also still trying to compile the radio spots, etc.,

.





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Group: potadg Message: 47936 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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In a message dated 3/18/2008 3:40:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:
-- I think all the over analysing of Apes is ruining it for me. Who cares if there are inconsistencies?
 
Only Patrick, apparently,
So that he can write a book
that only he would bother to read.
Lobsters great, though not everyday.
But I would say POTA is more like sushi.
I need that sushi fix now and then.  It's not
like chocolate, or even breakfast.  I can go a
couple of years without wanting Chinese food,
but only so long without sushi.  POTA is like that.
 




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Group: potadg Message: 47937 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Here's an odd one
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Group: potadg Message: 47938 From: Dario Sciola Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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I think one of the reasons I can sleep peacefully every night is because
I've never sweated out the 'small stuff' and inconsistencies. I've seen
people here go on and on about the slightest detail and I just don't
bother. To be sure, I let others argue till their faces turn blue (or
whatever the online text equivalent of that would be), but I get over
it. Mind you, I like it when someone points out these things in the
first place as it shows they notice them, but after it's been noted, i
won't bother trying to figure out the relevance if any. A great example
is how the slippup in the dates have led some to follow the modified
time theory, while I've always believed the INTENT was that it was to be
a circular timeline. So, like Neil, I just stick to me Circular beliefs,
and let others believe whatever they want.

There really is no right answer, but even that statement can arouse ire
in some.

I enjoy POTA for what it is. A series of movies, TV series, novels,
stories, comics, etc.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:39 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000

> -- I think all the over analysing of Apes is ruining it for me. Who
> cares if there are inconsistencies? So there is a dog in the TV series
> and 'that page' in the book that they look at and all the other
> cock-ups
> they made throughout the movies.
> As far as I'm concerned the TV series is part of the same looped
> timeline as the movies (which is a circle for me) and I really don't
> care about little things that are 'wrong'. A little bit of imagination
> and creative thinking can overcome all the faults if one wishes to
> really make the effort but I just can't be bothered anymore. I just
> watch the movies etc. and try to enjoy them as much as I used to
> (whichisn't easy these days).
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of bigapefan62
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:21 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
>
>
>
> like there is a dog in the tv series.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> "bigapefan62" <bigapefan62@...> wrote:
> >
> > yes but don't forget we are talking about a movie series that was
> > stopped by destroying the world....and then there was three
> sequels,
> > a tv series, a cartoon and a remake!
> >
> > There are so many inconsistencies in the whole series that I
> would
> > not be at all suprised to see the cats explained somehow buyt yes
> it
> > would take explaining.
>
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
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>
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Group: potadg Message: 47939 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
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-- I know what is familiar to me about it - the picture. It's from "POTA Funkified' by Mark Longmire.
I just checked to see if he had finally done any more chapters but was shocked to see his site has gone!
 
There is this message there: worldoflongmire.com expired on 03/06/2008 and is pending renewal or deletion
 
I for one hope he does renew the site, does anyone know how to contact him?
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:25 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Here's an odd one

This seems sort of familiar, but just
in case no one has posted it before . . .
 
Monday, March 17, 2008

damn dirty stocks

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Group: potadg Message: 47940 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- Careful what you say, you never know who may be listening.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:05 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update

*** That's the BROKENSEAS adaption, and to hear the guy who wrote and "starred" in it, he acts as though he is the biggest APES fan ever... The POWER records are way above that piece of sh*t. I feel exactly the way that you do: Why would anyone do that to PLANET?
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Group: potadg Message: 47941 From: TERRY HOKNES Date: 3/18/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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To McCougar:
I agree with you completely
I"m glad to see you defending some of the high quality POTA projects and people involved.
I think a lot of great stuff is put out there and I like seeing people take the time to create new things that bring interest to POTA
 
Yes I agree maybe not everything is always great but I would still rather see people try then not bother at all.
 
My comment wasn't about Ape Chronicles specifically.  I just feel a lot of negative comments posted every single day on all the POTA message boards.
 
People dont seem to like anything 99% of the time
 
If you dont like Ape Chronicles, thats totally fine.  You can't please everyone and yes you should only buy what you like whether its fanzines, action figures, comics etc etc etc.
 


----- Original Message -----
From: mlccougar@...
Date: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:56 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ape Chronicles update
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

> In a message dated 3/10/2008 5:01:30 AM Central Daylight Time,
> hoknescards@... writes:
>
>
> > 
> > Is it just me or do people spend most of their time
> criticizing POTA
> > projects on these yahoogroups ?
>
> I think it's just you. Just because the content of your project
> was
> criticized, do you take that now that "every" APES project is
> too? If so, I sure don't
> see it. Most people seem to welcome just about any APES project,
> be it "fan
> based" or from a company... What are you basing this assumption on?
>
> If it's because I said I was never too fond of the content of
> AC, you mean I
> can't have an opinion? I didn't just critique AC "blindly," I
> have issues from
> the past and I was not at all impressed with the content.
>
> I don't criticize everything you know. In fact, I do/did
> whatever I can/could
> in helping with the RARITIES DVDs. I would have even distributed
> them if I
> had a burner. I and another member of a different board are also
> still trying to
> compile the radio spots, etc., so I'm doing something that is
> purely to get
> it compiled and organized for distribution. I and the others
> involved in these
> projects aren't making a cent off of them. Nobody who has
> volunteered to help
> distribute the RARITIES DVDs is selling the contents on eBay
> while keeping
> those who paid for shipping and a blank DVD waiting like I heard
> happened with
> the cartoon project.
>
> > t would be nice to get more support and input from other POTA
> fans and not
> > just complaints. 
> >
> I will support any project that I see as actually worth
> supporting. I back
> SIMIAN SCROLLS all the way and I still support BEWARE THE BEAST
> (though that
> project is long over with). I also hold Mr. Foster's artwork in
> high regard, so I
> support whatever he might have coming down the pike, though any
> new projects
> like that seem to be at a standstill for now. Hopefully he can
> find a new
> collaborator.
>
> I alos look forward to seeing what, if any, changes TZer0 and
> Graham have in
> store for the DG.
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47942 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- Careful what you say, you never know who may be listening.


*** Yeah, well, he knew how how I felt about it... I just find it all funny and ironic the way he had "Taylor" setting there harping on about "political correctness" over and over, but when he felt his story was being treated "politically incorrect", then he went running for the hills. He wanted it both ways I guess... ***



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Group: potadg Message: 47943 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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Somebody said it before but I'm not sure if it was here...I love Planet of the Apes, warts and all...
 
Jessica.

On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

I think one of the reasons I can sleep peacefully every night is because
I've never sweated out the 'small stuff' and inconsistencies. I've seen
people here go on and on about the slightest detail and I just don't
bother. To be sure, I let others argue till their faces turn blue (or
whatever the online text equivalent of that would be), but I get over
it. Mind you, I like it when someone points out these things in the
first place as it shows they notice them, but after it's been noted, i
won't bother trying to figure out the relevance if any. A great example
is how the slippup in the dates have led some to follow the modified
time theory, while I've always believed the INTENT was that it was to be
a circular timeline. So, like Neil, I just stick to me Circular beliefs,
and let others believe whatever they want.

There really is no right answer, but even that statement can arouse ire
in some.

I enjoy POTA for what it is. A series of movies, TV series, novels,
stories, comics, etc.

Dario



----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 4:39 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000

> -- I think all the over analysing of Apes is ruining it for me. Who
> cares if there are inconsistencies? So there is a dog in the TV series
> and 'that page' in the book that they look at and all the other
> cock-ups
> they made throughout the movies.
> As far as I'm concerned the TV series is part of the same looped
> timeline as the movies (which is a circle for me) and I really don't
> care about little things that are 'wrong'. A little bit of imagination
> and creative thinking can overcome all the faults if one wishes to
> really make the effort but I just can't be bothered anymore. I just
> watch the movies etc. and try to enjoy them as much as I used to
> (whichisn't easy these days).

>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of bigapefan62
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:21 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
>
>
>
> like there is a dog in the tv series.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto: PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,

> "bigapefan62" <bigapefan62@...> wrote:
> >
> > yes but don't forget we are talking about a movie series that was
> > stopped by destroying the world....and then there was three
> sequels,
> > a tv series, a cartoon and a remake!
> >
> > There are so many inconsistencies in the whole series that I
> would
> > not be at all suprised to see the cats explained somehow buyt yes
> it
> > would take explaining.
>
>
> .
>
> < http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=47925/stime=1205871688/nc1=5008816/nc2=3858797/nc3=3848621>
>
>
>


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Group: potadg Message: 47944 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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In a message dated 3/19/2008 1:00:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessicarotich@... writes:
Somebody said it before but I'm not sure if it was here...I love Planet of the Apes, warts and all...
 
Jessica.
 
Someone my have had this before.
But it's new to me so it maybe new to someone else.
Dr. K, who was left to be babysat by a go Ape Marathon
at the tender age of five, had a link to this . . .
 




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Group: potadg Message: 47945 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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I don't actually have time to read all of the stuff I post.
Hopefully there's something new in it.  My posts may get
a bit sporadic for a while.  I'm upgrading the studio with a
Mac Pro, and I've been a PC guy since the Commodore
Amiga. So you can imagine there's a bit of a learning
curve.  And with my sydlexia / ADD, I don't envy me.
 
 




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Group: potadg Message: 47946 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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Hey I looked at the link and it had other links to a bunch of planet
of the apes groups. the guy rich Hanley must have not heard ot this
group so you should ought to send him a link.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 3/19/2008 1:00:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> jessicarotich@... writes:
>
> Somebody said it before but I'm not sure if it was here...I love
Planet of
> the Apes, warts and all...
>
> Jessica.
>
>
>
>
>
> Someone my have had this before.
> But it's new to me so it maybe new to someone else.
> Dr. K, who was left to be babysat by a go Ape Marathon
> at the tender age of five, had a link to this . . .
>
> _The Hasslein Curveâ€"A Timeline of the Planet of the Apes_
> (http://rhandley.0catch.com/POTA/)
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47947 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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-- I know that there's just been a bit of a whinge about knocking ape projects but I have problems with this thing. Some of the stuff he has included is just ridiculous.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000

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Group: potadg Message: 47948 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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-- Mandy, he's heard of it all right, in fact he was once a member here. But Its not the only POTA site that doesn't link to the DG either. If you are not part of a certain clique of Apes fans you are generally shunned by the majority of the Apes community.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bigapefan62
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000

Hey I looked at the link and it had other links to a bunch of planet
of the apes groups. the guy rich Hanley must have not heard ot this
group so you should ought to send him a link.

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Group: potadg Message: 47949 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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Ohh...K..hmmm.

Well it looks like a great website...not as good as hunter's but it
looks real nice and he does pay tribute to you neil! He says he
loves the comic by you and dave is it? when did you two do the beast
comic?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Mandy, he's heard of it all right, in fact he was once a member
here.
> But Its not the only POTA site that doesn't link to the DG either.
If
> you are not part of a certain clique of Apes fans you are generally
> shunned by the majority of the Apes community.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of bigapefan62
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:12 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
>
>
>
> Hey I looked at the link and it had other links to a bunch of
planet
> of the apes groups. the guy rich Hanley must have not heard ot this
> group so you should ought to send him a link.
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
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> sgId=47946/stime=1205957584/nc1=5008815/nc2=3848614/nc3=3858796>
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Group: potadg Message: 47950 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Date:   Thursday March 20, 2008
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Notes:   Happy Birthday Frank!
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Group: potadg Message: 47951 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/19/2008
Subject: What makes YOU a planet of the Apes fan?
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I have been going through old posts and i have to say I found this
thread very interesting on "just wat is a fan"?.

now I'm a fan because i loved the movies and the tv shows. some more
than others but all good except tim burton's is only JUST good.

but i think i was already a fan when i first seen escape so what MAKES
you a fan?
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Group: potadg Message: 47952 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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There's plenty of other POTA timelines out there, it's ok to have one
that tries to include absolutely everything, even the ridiculous
stuff, because it's something different.

One thing about Rich's timeline: after a few years trying to find out
about the plot and stories carried in the Adventure comics, his was
the only site to give any info on these. Almost all I know about the
Adventure comics I got from reading his timeline (and buying the odd
issue when it turns up in my local shops - I've only got about ten
issues though).

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- I know that there's just been a bit of a whinge about knocking
ape
> projects but I have problems with this thing. Some of the stuff he
has
> included is just ridiculous.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of TZer0@...
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:39 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
>
>
>
>
>
> had a link to this . . .
>
> The Hasslein Curve-A Timeline <http://rhandley.0catch.com/POTA/>
of the
> Planet of the Apes
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
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> sgId=47944/stime=1205955539/nc1=5008815/nc2=3858797/nc3=3848621>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47953 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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> But Its not the only POTA site that doesn't link to the DG either.

I've just added it to my Links page.

> If
> you are not part of a certain clique of Apes fans you are generally
> shunned by the majority of the Apes community.

For me, it had nothing to do with being part of a clique and
everything to do with how certain people treated others here (and yes,
we all know to whom I'm referring). I saw no point in pointing people
to the PotaDG when I couldn't stand to be a member of it myself.

Since I've been back, I just forgot that it wasn't listed. Now it is.

Hunter
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Group: potadg Message: 47954 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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.html In a message dated 3/20/2008 7:50:00 AM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:


-- I know that there's just been a bit of a whinge about knocking ape projects but I have problems with this thing. Some of the stuff he has included is just ridiculous.


*** I do agree here... While I'd have no problem "combining" the films and the TV series into one comprehensive list, including things like the ADVENTURE comics is just out of line for me. Had the ADVENTURE comics actually had more in common with the actual APES films/TV series it'd be different because they'd be along the same lines.

But adding unrelated elements just for the sake of making them "related" isn't really neccessary. It's grasping at straws to make everything one neat little package. ***



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Group: potadg Message: 47955 From: John Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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Yay!!! Look at us all coming together....... yuck!!! Somebody start
some sh*t quick before things get boring & you all start debating
timelines etc. like this was Star Trek or something. ;)
Muhahahahahahahaha!!!!



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > But Its not the only POTA site that doesn't link to the DG either.
>
> I've just added it to my Links page.
>
> > If
> > you are not part of a certain clique of Apes fans you are generally
> > shunned by the majority of the Apes community.
>
> For me, it had nothing to do with being part of a clique and
> everything to do with how certain people treated others here (and yes,
> we all know to whom I'm referring). I saw no point in pointing people
> to the PotaDG when I couldn't stand to be a member of it myself.
>
> Since I've been back, I just forgot that it wasn't listed. Now it is.
>
> Hunter
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47956 From: atragon1@aol.com Date: 3/20/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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Are not timelines the crux of the entire POTA saga? How can this be called a Discussion Group if people dont want to discuss certian topics? Now lets stop complaining and lets talk apes!
Bill
 
In a message dated 3/20/2008 9:49:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:
Yay!!! Look at us all coming together.... ... yuck!!! Somebody start
some sh*t quick before things get boring & you all start debating
timelines etc. like this was Star Trek or something. ;)
Muhahahahahahahaha! !!!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@ ...> wrote:
>
> > But Its not the only POTA site that doesn't link to the DG either.
>
> I've just added it to my Links page.
>
> > If
> > you are not part of a certain clique of Apes fans you are generally
> > shunned by the majority of the Apes community.
>
> For me, it had nothing to do with being part of a clique and
> everything to do with how certain people treated others here (and yes,
> we all know to whom I'm referring). I saw no point in pointing people
> to the PotaDG when I couldn't stand to be a member of it myself.
>
> Since I've been back, I just forgot that it wasn't listed. Now it is.
>
> Hunter
>
 




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Group: potadg Message: 47957 From: Neil Date: 3/21/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- Speaking of Beware the Beast something that bugs me is the lack of
recognition Michael Whitty receives for it.
It seems it is always referred to as being by Dave Ballard and me
which is not quite the full story. Michael is listed as 'editor' but
in reality he was much, much more than that to the project.
The original story was changed quite a bit to work as a comic strip.
Some stuff was dropped and extra scenes added, some of which were
Michael's original ideas.
If it were being done again today I would have the credits read
something like: Adapted from the Dave Ballard short story 'Last Stand
in the Forbidden Zone' by Dave Ballard and Michael Whitty, Pencilled &
inked By Neil T. Foster, Lettered by Dave Ballard, Edited by Michael
Whitty. I think that would be more accurate.
As well as the creative input, the scanning of all the original
artwork and hawking around the chapters to various web sites etc. the
comic would never have even happened at all if not for Michael
actually putting the team together in the first place. And then
keeping it together as well as continually offering invaluable support
and regularly giving me a kick up the backside to keep me motivated
and focused. I for one could not have done it without him.

Neil


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
> I will support any project that I see as actually worth supporting.
I still support BEWARE THE BEAST (though that project is long over with).
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Group: potadg Message: 47958 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/21/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- Speaking of Beware the Beast something that bugs me is the lack of
recognition Michael Whitty receives for it.


*** Oh, I agree going on what I've known from the past as well as what you stated here tonight... Whitty wasn't given enough credit for that and quite a lot of other things too: Buying the Spanish TV series comics for translation (and ultimate distribution) as well as the MONKEY PLANET comic for the same reason(s).

Plus, the time he spent trying to deal with FOX and also dealing with the folks at INKWORKS to try to get them to listen to the kind of APES cards we WANTED as opposed to what they actually gave us.

Whitty's behind the scenes work will be missed around here. ***



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Group: potadg Message: 47960 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , atragon1@... wrote:
>
> Hi,
> These are 2 of my favorite 70's scifi films. Do you think they could
exist in the same universe?
> We already had some debates on LOGAN's RUN and POTA. How about these
> 2...Patrick?
> Bill

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*** I've seen "ROLLERBALL" and "DEATH RACE 2000" only once each, and
didn't particularly care for them. I'm not saying that they were bad
films, just that they didn't do much for me. As for them "exist[ing] in
the same universe"... well, why not? The crux of it would be the
timeline: when did "ROLLERBALL" take place? The other flick took place
in the year 2000, of course.

As for other business... what the bejeezus happened to Mikey? I've been
busy as hell dealing with a financial matter that has tied up my time
these last few weeks, and I get back and see that Mike has gone apeshit
like the gorilla that strangled Milo. What happened to him? I should
say, first, that I'm slogging my way through the most recent 100 to 200
posts here, and it's possible that I'll read one that answers this
question I'm posing, so bear with me. Right now, though, I must say
that I can understand him being frustrated regarding lack-of-
participation (just about every time that I post a lengthy and relevant
message about POTA, I wait for somebody to respond to it, either
positive or negative, and usually hear crickets chirping, if that).

But his "f--- you all" line was outta line. If he wanted to ditch POTA
and end his participation in this group (which he co-founded), he
could've done it with grace.

One last thing. So far (with about 100 more posts to slog through yet),
I must admit to having a suspicion that "Mandy" is actually Mike in
drag, (re-)joining the group just to screw with our heads. I mean,
c'mon, the supposedly "phallic" shape of the ship? How many schlongs
have a tip that friggin' pointy? Go rent "FLESH GORDON" to see a
phallic spaceship!

Patrick
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Group: potadg Message: 47961 From: Graham Hill Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Speaking of Beware the Beast something that bugs me is the lack of
> recognition Michael Whitty receives for it.
> It seems it is always referred to as being by Dave Ballard and me
> which is not quite the full story. Michael is listed as 'editor' but
> in reality he was much, much more than that to the project.
> The original story was changed quite a bit to work as a comic strip.
> Some stuff was dropped and extra scenes added, some of which were
> Michael's original ideas.
> If it were being done again today I would have the credits read
> something like: Adapted from the Dave Ballard short story 'Last Stand
> in the Forbidden Zone' by Dave Ballard and Michael Whitty, Pencilled &
> inked By Neil T. Foster, Lettered by Dave Ballard, Edited by Michael
> Whitty. I think that would be more accurate.
> As well as the creative input, the scanning of all the original
> artwork and hawking around the chapters to various web sites etc. the
> comic would never have even happened at all if not for Michael
> actually putting the team together in the first place. And then
> keeping it together as well as continually offering invaluable support
> and regularly giving me a kick up the backside to keep me motivated
> and focused. I for one could not have done it without him.
>
> Neil
>
>

 

 I've always ment to ask Neil , how did you work with Michael and Dave on Beast ?

Did you get a "full" script with panel break downs, dialogue and directions or was it more of a plot which you did the break downs and visual pacing and then go back to Michael to discuss and work out the final dialogue,captions after the pages were penciled ?

Did some scenes get added at a latter stage ?

Feel free to go into details :)

(I love to here about technical stuff like this!!!)

Best,Graham.

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Group: potadg Message: 47962 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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Truthfully, that thought occured to me too!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:
>
> I must admit to having a suspicion that "Mandy" is actually Mike in
> drag, (re-)joining the group just to screw with our heads.
>
> Patrick
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47963 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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And also, any hints about who you might be collaborating with on
these new projects?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>I've always ment to ask Neil , how did you work with Michael and Dave
> on Beast ?
>
> Did you get a "full" script with panel break downs, dialogue and
> directions or was it more of a plot which you did the break downs
and
> visual pacing and then go back to Michael to discuss and work out
the
> final dialogue,captions after the pages were penciled ?
>
> Did some scenes get added at a latter stage ?
>
> Feel free to go into details [:)]
>
> (I love to here about technical stuff like this!!!)
>
> Best,Graham.
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47964 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/22/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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Right now, though, I must say participation (just about every time that I post a lengthy and relevant message about POTA, I wait for somebody to respond to it, either positive or negative, and usually hear crickets chirping, if that).

*** The reason I don't reply to your posts is because there's no give and take. By that I mean no matter what anybody else says or thinks, it seems that you cannot see their point of view. Basically, it's your way or the highway. (But then again, I can't say I'm any different.) ***


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Group: potadg Message: 47965 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 3/22/2008
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Neil,
Sorry to hear that he has past away. He was the science fiction father to us all. He will be terribly missed.
Both my husband and I are avid readers of his. Swayer will be crushed too.
 
Wendy


To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
From: ntfoster@...
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:35:10 +1000
Subject: [PotaDG] Arthur C. Clarke RIP

A sad loss, another one of the greats dies. At least he had a good long life.
 
Neil
 




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Group: potadg Message: 47966 From: grotowski666 Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
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This came through from google. I must explore this site as it looks
very interesting.

http://plaidstallions.blogspot.com/

JBK
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Group: potadg Message: 47967 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
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This came through from google. I must explore this site as it looks very interesting.

http://plaidstallions.blogspot.com/

*** That Mego/APES appearance, as well as a couple other Mego/APES related shots can all be found on the Mego Museum... When you go there, check out the shot of the Mego/APES Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade float... ***




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Group: potadg Message: 47968 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke RIP
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I heard on NPR the other day that he had written a
book maybe or had the idea at least , that had to do
with training apes and monkeys to become servants!
anyone know more about this?

Tim

--- Wendy Kostora <Willowape@...> wrote:

>
> Neil,
> Sorry to hear that he has past away. He was the
> science fiction father to us all. He will be
> terribly missed.
> Both my husband and I are avid readers of his.
> Swayer will be crushed too.
>
> Wendy
>
>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.comFrom:
> ntfoster@...: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:35:10
> +1000Subject: [PotaDG] Arthur C. Clarke RIP
>
>
>
>
>
> A sad loss, another one of the greats dies. At least
> he had a good long life.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47969 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
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I wonder who that is in the mask....just a store
employee I assume?!
I never saw any window displays that great! cool!

--- grotowski666 <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:

> This came through from google. I must explore this
> site as it looks
> very interesting.
>
> http://plaidstallions.blogspot.com/
>
> JBK
>
>



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Group: potadg Message: 47971 From: John Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
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I've been a fan of this blog site for a while. Great 70's memories to
mess with your head to be found there!


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "grotowski666" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
>
> This came through from google. I must explore this site as it looks
> very interesting.
>
> http://plaidstallions.blogspot.com/
>
> JBK
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47972 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Store appearance for Mego in the seventies!
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Was it Fox, Mego or the shop itself???


*** I'll ask over at the MM and see what they might know, but my guess is that MEGO was behind (at least some of) them, as they were the ones making the bucks off the APES stuff. ***


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Group: potadg Message: 47973 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: MEGO/APES store appearances.
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.html *** Well, I haven't posted the question as to if MEGO was behind all of the store appearances, but this photo shows that MEGO "was" behind this one anyway. ***














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Group: potadg Message: 47974 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/23/2008
Subject: Re: Rollerball and Death Race 2000
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Group: potadg Message: 47975 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke RIP
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You sure you're not confusing that with an episode of the Simpsons?!

But yeah, one of a gifted generation of sci-fi writers. I loved
watching his 'Mysterious World' show on TV as a kid (I think I still
have the companion book somewhere).


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I heard on NPR the other day that he had written a
> book maybe or had the idea at least , that had to do
> with training apes and monkeys to become servants!
> anyone know more about this?
>
> Tim
>
> --- Wendy Kostora <Willowape@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Neil,
> > Sorry to hear that he has past away. He was the
> > science fiction father to us all. He will be
> > terribly missed.
> > Both my husband and I are avid readers of his.
> > Swayer will be crushed too.
> >
> > Wendy
> >
> >
> > To: PotaDG@...:
> > ntfoster@...: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:35:10
> > +1000Subject: [PotaDG] Arthur C. Clarke RIP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A sad loss, another one of the greats dies. At least
> > he had a good long life.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47976 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- I completely forgot to mention another person who has been very important to the whole comics thing. Greg Plonowski has been immense. He has been responsible for the printing of all the comics that we have finished so far (plus those Spanish ones and 'A Majmok Bolygoja' etc.) and has always done a spectacular job.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 10:56 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update

*** Oh, I agree going on what I've known from the past as well as what you stated here tonight... Whitty wasn't given enough credit for that and quite a lot of other things too: Buying the Spanish TV series comics for translation (and ultimate distribution) as well as the MONKEY PLANET comic for the same reason(s).
Plus, the time he spent trying to deal with FOX and also dealing with the folks at INKWORKS to try to get them to listen to the kind of APES cards we WANTED as opposed to what they actually gave us.
.

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Group: potadg Message: 47977 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- I completely forgot to mention another person who has been very important to the whole comics thing. Greg Plonowski has been immense.


*** Oh, I'd agree with that. Plus he's an easy guy to deal with. ***



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Group: potadg Message: 47978 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: MEGO/APES in store promotions
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.html To follow up with the post(s) yesterday, I wanted to say that I found out the following regarding the in-store APES appearances:

In Canada, the store promotions were done by Parkdale Novelty, the distributor for Mego, they gave away photos with the Mego logo on them.

Likewise Neal Kublan himself travelled with Nimoy and Shatner for the Trek promotions, so it seems likely that Mego had a hand in the Apes.











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Group: potadg Message: 47979 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- We did start with a full script and after extensive editing and re-writes we came up with one that we were all happy with. I did start off using panel breakdowns/directions from Ballard at first and we started with each page having a set number of panels. As it progressed though I was using what he wanted more as a guide and ended up putting in extra stuff and deciding for myself things like how many panels to use per page etc.
One prime example is the revealing of the space ship. That was originally scripted as just another panel and I came up with the idea of making it a full page instead plus the pacing of the panels leading up to it on the previous page. Another example that I can recall off the top of my head is where a whole series of panels of Gideon beating the crap out of the humans was changed by me to just one montage panel.
 
After I completed drawing and inking each 3 page chapter (as I didn't have a scanner back then) I would mail the pages to Michael who then had to scan them and send the copies to Ballard who added the words. We would then all review the finished pages and on a few occasions I would suggest better locations in the panels for the dialog and with Michael offer any suggestions we could think of to improve things like the wording, pacing and any other changes we felt it needed. Most of the time changes were readily agreed on by all and we got on with it with no problems. It worked both ways as well with Ballard on one occasion not being happy with the panel of Gideon holding the 2 humans by the throat as he was standing too still. I completely re-drew that panel and sent it to Michael to scan for Ballard to replace it.
 
And yes, scenes were added latter, in fact eventually whole pages were added! As you know it was originally an online project but when we decided to make it available in printed form we decided it was too long for a single issue but not quite long enough for two so decided to script some additional pages which could be fitted in without changing the story. Michael was always keen to get more than just a gorilla in the comic which is why a few of the added pages featured things like what was happening elsewhere at the time such as in Ape City, the 'Escapeonauts' blasting off and things like that.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:24 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update

 I've always ment to ask Neil , how did you work with Michael and Dave on Beast ?

Did you get a "full" script with panel break downs, dialogue and directions or was it more of a plot which you did the break downs and visual pacing and then go back to Michael to discuss and work out the final dialogue,captions after the pages were penciled ?

Did some scenes get added at a latter stage ?

.

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Group: potadg Message: 47980 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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-- Well I can only reveal one person whom I will definitely be collaborating with at the moment - Me! 
I have just started working on a solo POTA comic story which is still in it's very early stages at the moment. All I can reveal is that it is set in the time period between Battle and Planet...
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update

And also, any hints about who you might be collaborating with on

.

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Group: potadg Message: 47981 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Go Ape! pressbook
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Thanks to James A., the pressbook for the GO APE! campaign is now
available for your viewing and downloading pleasure.

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter
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Group: potadg Message: 47982 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
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good work!
were the giveaway photos of POTA? Does anyone have
one?

--- mlccougar@... wrote:

> To follow up with the post(s) yesterday, I wanted to
> say that I found out the
> following regarding the in-store APES appearances:
>
> In Canada, the store promotions were done by
> Parkdale Novelty, the
> distributor for Mego, they gave away photos with the
> Mego logo on them.
>
> Likewise Neal Kublan himself travelled with Nimoy
> and Shatner for the Trek
> promotions, so it seems likely that Mego had a hand
> in the Apes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> the Pros. Watch the video on AOL
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Group: potadg Message: 47983 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/24/2008
Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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can't wait to see it Neil!


--- Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> -- Well I can only reveal one person whom I will
> definitely be
> collaborating with at the moment - Me!
> I have just started working on a solo POTA comic
> story which is still in
> it's very early stages at the moment. All I can
> reveal is that it is set
> in the time period between Battle and Planet...
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of nlmoxham
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 10:31 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update
>
>
>
> And also, any hints about who you might be
> collaborating with on
>
>
> .
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47984 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
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ThatÂ’s great detective work. Will look them up on IMDB
see if they are still in the business.
JBK
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 25 March 2008 03:49
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] MEGO/APES in store promotions

good work!
were the giveaway photos of POTA? Does anyone have
one?

--- mlccougar@aol. com wrote:

> To follow up with the post(s) yesterday, I wanted to
> say that I found out the
> following regarding the in-store APES appearances:
>
> In Canada, the store promotions were done by
> Parkdale Novelty, the
> distributor for Mego, they gave away photos with the
> Mego logo on them.
>
> Likewise Neal Kublan himself travelled with Nimoy
> and Shatner for the Trek
> promotions, so it seems likely that Mego had a hand
> in the Apes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <BR><BR>**** ********* *<BR>Create a Home Theater Like
> the Pros. Watch the video on AOL
> Home.<BR>
>
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>

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Group: potadg Message: 47985 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
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.html In a message dated 3/24/2008 10:49:15 PM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:


were the giveaway photos of POTA?


*** I can't swear to it, but it seems that the photos were of Urko holding a pistol. ***



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Group: potadg Message: 47986 From: Dario Sciola Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
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They're still in business and best of all, the 'about us' section of
their website not only mentions the 70's Mego boom, but it has an image
showing a long Mego line. Kinda like a Conga line. (Click the image to
see a larger version).

----- Original Message -----
From: John Brandon Kirtley <
johnbkirtley@...>
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] MEGO/APES in store promotions

> That's great detective work. Will look them up on IMDB
> see if they are still in the business.
> JBK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 25 March 2008 03:49
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] MEGO/APES in store promotions
>
>
> good work!
> were the giveaway photos of POTA? Does anyone have
> one?
>
> --- mlccougar@...<mailto:mlccougar@...> wrote:
>
> > To follow up with the post(s) yesterday, I wanted to
> > say that I found out the
> > following regarding the in-store APES appearances:
> >
> > In Canada, the store promotions were done by
> > Parkdale Novelty, the
> > distributor for Mego, they gave away photos with the
> > Mego logo on them.
> >
> > Likewise Neal Kublan himself travelled with Nimoy
> > and Shatner for the Trek
> > promotions, so it seems likely that Mego had a hand
> > in the Apes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <BR><BR>**************<BR>Create a Home Theater Like
> > the Pros. Watch the video on AOL
> > Home.<BR>
> >
> (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-
>
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> >
>
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Group: potadg Message: 47987 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Group: potadg Message: 47988 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/25/2008
Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
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Attachments :
    This one possibly? I know this was given out at live performances....

    mlccougar@... wrote:
    In a message dated 3/24/2008 10:49:15 PM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:


    were the giveaway photos of POTA?


    *** I can't swear to it, but it seems that the photos were of Urko holding a pistol. ***



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    Group: potadg Message: 47989 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/25/2008
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    .html In a message dated 3/25/2008 11:48:31 PM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:


    This one possibly? I know this was given out at live performances....


    *** I believe so, but I'll send this to the dude at the Mego Museum and see if he knows anything about whether or not this is/was the photo... I'll guess it'll be tomorrow before I get a reply though, but whenever it is, I'll let you know...***



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    Group: potadg Message: 47990 From: Graham Hill Date: 3/26/2008
    Subject: Re: Ape Chronicles update
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    Thanks Neil it's always good to hear about the process.

    Just got a few random thoughts...


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > -- We did start with a full script and after extensive editing and
    > re-writes we came up with one that we were all happy with. I did start
    > off using panel breakdowns/directions from Ballard at first and we
    > started with each page having a set number of panels. As it progressed
    > though I was using what he wanted more as a guide and ended up putting
    > in extra stuff and deciding for myself things like how many panels to
    > use per page etc.

    At the full script stage would there be dialogue and balloon placement detailed?


    > One prime example is the revealing of the space ship. That was
    > originally scripted as just another panel and I came up with the idea of
    > making it a full page instead plus the pacing of the panels leading up
    > to it on the previous page. Another example that I can recall off the
    > top of my head is where a whole series of panels of Gideon beating the
    > crap out of the humans was changed by me to just one montage panel.
    >
    > After I completed drawing and inking each 3 page chapter (as I didn't
    > have a scanner back then) I would mail the pages to Michael who then had
    > to scan them and send the copies to Ballard who added the words. We
    > would then all review the finished pages and on a few occasions I would
    > suggest better locations in the panels for the dialog and with Michael
    > offer any suggestions we could think of to improve things like the
    > wording, pacing and any other changes we felt it needed. Most of the
    > time changes were readily agreed on by all and we got on with it with no
    > problems. It worked both ways as well with Ballard on one occasion not
    > being happy with the panel of Gideon holding the 2 humans by the throat
    > as he was standing too still. I completely re-drew that panel and sent
    > it to Michael to scan for Ballard to replace it.
    >
    > And yes, scenes were added latter, in fact eventually whole pages were
    > added! As you know it was originally an online project but when we
    > decided to make it available in printed form we decided it was too long
    > for a single issue but not quite long enough for two so decided to
    > script some additional pages which could be fitted in without changing
    > the story. Michael was always keen to get more than just a gorilla in
    > the comic which is why a few of the added pages featured things like
    > what was happening elsewhere at the time such as in Ape City, the
    > 'Escapeonauts' blasting off and things like that.
    >
    > Neil
    >

    With latter strips like "With-in"  I take it you worked with Michael on the plot more before you started drawing?

    I seem to remember that there was a number of things you wanted to draw from the start?

     It is fascinating how the process of making a comic strip comes about, it's not as easy as some assume.  (Just look at a copy of Previews to see how many bad comics are published each month)

    As you said,  Michael as the writer, can be "Forgotten" which is great shame. (I know i've done it myself.) but the process is a collaboration.

    I sure when working on the latter stuff you were looking for ways to streamline the process... forinstance cutting down on re-drawing?

    (I've just read a quote from Kirby where he's supposed to have said "Every time you erase you lose money" now I know there was no money ...but you know what I mean :))

    It seems there was alot of different approaches on the strips and y ou both went through a number of methods on each of them was their one which suited you both more than another?

    (As I say just random thoughts of the top of my head... I'd stop at the rough break down stage  if I was doing it !!! of course no one would be able to tell what was going on  just a lot of marks and lines but the pages would have a lot of energy !!!  ;)

    Best,Graham.
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
    > Of Graham Hill
    > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 4:24 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I've always ment to ask Neil , how did you work with Michael and Dave
    > on Beast ?
    >
    > Did you get a "full" script with panel break downs, dialogue and
    > directions or was it more of a plot which you did the break downs and
    > visual pacing and then go back to Michael to discuss and work out the
    > final dialogue,captions after the pages were penciled ?
    >
    > Did some scenes get added at a latter stage ?
    >
    > .
    >
    > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
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    Group: potadg Message: 47991 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/26/2008
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    -- No just mainly a description of what was to happen in the panel. I would then try to leave enough 'dead' spaces in the panel for any dialog balloons / boxes.
    There were occasions when reviewing the completed pages I found that Ballard had placed text over parts of the art that I felt should not be covered and I recommended an alternative place in the panel for it and had him move it.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:40 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update

    At the full script stage would there be dialogue and balloon placement detailed?

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    Group: potadg Message: 47992 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/26/2008
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    -- Yes Within was plotted out before we started on it though there were many revisions made during the drawing of it and some of it was made up as we went along! That was fine by me though as one of the reasons we did it how we did was that I wanted to try my hand at a 3 to 4 panel newspaper type of strip.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:40 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update

    With latter strips like "With-in"  I take it you worked with Michael on the plot more before you started drawing?

    I seem to remember that there was a number of things you wanted to draw from the start?

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 47993 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/26/2008
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    -- Yes, one way that saved a lot of time was the decision not to ink the new strips and just use the pencils. The first 4 or 5 pages of Going Home were inked but none of the pages after that and it saved a huge amount of time (and also saved my ink supplies!)
     
    I am now also doing all of the lettering myself which takes a fair amount of time and effort and probably uses up any time that I saved by not inking!
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:40 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update

    I sure when working on the latter stuff you were looking for ways to streamline the process... forinstance cutting down on re-drawing?

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 47994 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/26/2008
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    -- Well probably the method we eventually ended up using which became a lot easier when we could actually discuss things face to face.
    Basically we came up with an idea for a story and bounced things around until we felt happy with it and usually had things pretty tightly planned out. I then  drew the thing and added Michael's text. We then reviewed the pages and changed anything we feel needed changing.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
    Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:40 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Chronicles update

    It seems there was alot of different approaches on the strips and you both went through a number of methods on each of them was their one which suited you both more than another?

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 47995 From: John Date: 3/26/2008
    Subject: 2nd series of repo-apes
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    The new Comics Preview from Diamond has the 2nd series of the new repo-
    Mego Apes in it. It features Dr. Zaius & Zira. Ordered mine today.
    Guess the pre-orders for the Soldier Ape & Cornelius were enough for
    them to continue the line. ;)
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    Group: potadg Message: 47996 From: John Date: 3/26/2008
    Subject: World of Longmire
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    The Wonderful World of Longmire Planet of the Apes page is back. Still
    no new chapters, but at least it has returned!
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    Group: potadg Message: 47997 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/26/2008
    Subject: Re: World of Longmire
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    Wow!  That's great...I was kind of sad not being able to find it last weekend, just so I could revisit the screenshots there. 
     
    Jessica.

     
    On 3/26/08, John < DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

    The Wonderful World of Longmire Planet of the Apes page is back. Still
    no new chapters, but at least it has returned!


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    Group: potadg Message: 47998 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 3/27/2008
    Subject: Re: Some links I came across this weekend--anybody see these?
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    In a message dated 11/26/07 5:18:56 PM, jessicarotich@... writes:


    Planet of the Apes
    was mentioned!!


    Where?  I can't sift through all that.



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    Subject: Re: World of Longmire
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    Where do you find this? The Longmirre POTA page!
     
    JBK
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: 27 March 2008 02:30
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] World of Longmire

    Wow!  That's great...I was kind of sad not being able to find it last weekend, just so I could revisit the screenshots there. 
     
    Jessica.

     
    On 3/26/08, John <DrZaiusDavis@ aol.com> wrote:

    The Wonderful World of Longmire Planet of the Apes page is back. Still
    no new chapters, but at least it has returned!


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    Group: potadg Message: 48000 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 3/27/2008
    Subject: Re: World of Longmire
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    > Where do you find this? The Longmirre POTA page!

    http://worldoflongmire.com/
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    Subject: Re: World of Longmire
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    > > Where do you find this? The Longmirre POTA page!

    > http://worldoflongmire.com/

    More specifically:

    Group: potadg Message: 48002 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/27/2008
    Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
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      .htmlTim,

      I finally heard back from the guy at the Mego Museum and fwd. the picture onto him to see if he can confirm if it's the same style of photo that he had seen in the past. I will let everyone here know what he had to say regarding it.

      Also, he wanted to know if you would be okay with them using the Urko photo on the Mego Museum? You can answer that here or email me privately with your reply.

      Thanks.






      In a message dated 3/25/2008 11:48:31 PM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

      This one possibly? I know this was given out at live performances....

      mlccougar@... wrote:
      In a message dated 3/24/2008 10:49:15 PM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:


      were the giveaway photos of POTA?



      *** I can't swear to it, but it seems that the photos were of Urko holding a pistol. ***


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      Group: potadg Message: 48003 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 3/27/2008
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        I don't have any problem with it...I got the picture
        of the picture of ebay I think....!

        --- mlccougar@... wrote:

        > Tim,
        >
        > I finally heard back from the guy at the Mego Museum
        > and fwd. the picture
        > onto him to see if he can confirm if it's the same
        > style of photo that he had
        > seen in the past. I will let everyone here know what
        > he had to say regarding it.
        >
        > Also, he wanted to know if you would be okay with
        > them using the Urko photo
        > on the Mego Museum? You can answer that here or
        > email me privately with your
        > reply.
        >
        > Thanks.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > In a message dated 3/25/2008 11:48:31 PM Central
        > Daylight Time,
        > apefan23@... writes:
        >
        > > This one possibly? I know this was given out at
        > live performances....
        > >
        > > mlccougar@... wrote:
        > > >> In a message dated 3/24/2008 10:49:15 PM
        > Central Daylight Time,
        > >> apefan23@... writes:
        > >>
        > >>
        > >> >>>
        > >>
        > >>
        > >> *** I can't swear to it, but it seems that the
        > photos were of Urko holding
        > >> a pistol. ***
        > >>
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        Group: potadg Message: 48005 From: bigapefan62 Date: 3/28/2008
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        Yes - something like "youre next human scum" would suit better! :)

        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
        >
        > > Also, he wanted to know if you would be okay with them using the
        Urko photo
        > > on the Mego Museum? You can answer that here or email me privately
        with your
        > > reply.
        >
        > That picture cracks me up. Urko doesn't seem to be the type to sign a
        > photo with, "Sincerely, General Urko". 8-)
        >
        > Hunter
        >
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        Group: potadg Message: 48006 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/28/2008
        Subject: Re: MEGO/APES in store promotions
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        .html In a message dated 3/28/2008 6:22:32 AM Central Daylight Time, goathunter@... writes:


        <<< Also, he wanted to know if you would be okay with them using the Urko photo
        on the Mego Museum? You can answer that here or email me privately with your
        reply. >>>

        That picture cracks me up.  Urko doesn't seem to be the type to sign a
        photo with, "Sincerely, General Urko".   8-)


        *** Even weirder that that is the fact that there's an obvious "20th Century" human in the background, to the right of Urko... ***



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        Group: potadg Message: 48007 From: grotowski666 Date: 3/29/2008
        Subject: Originalprop.com
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        Saw this today! Seems like a strange worls this original prop
        collecting thing. A Bit like the number of "original Roddy costumes"
        that seem to be about. Lee Hemstock is a premier ape fan and is
        totally into POTA so this is a bit strange!

        What do you think?

        Planet of the Apes Statue of Liberty Prop - Update
        By jdebord | December 17, 2007


        As discussed previously (see "Planet of the Apes Statue of Liberty
        Prop"), a Statue of Liberty prop head - attributed to use in Planet
        of the Apes (1968) - was consigned with Profiles in History (where it
        failed to sell) and, subsequently, Heritage Auction Galleries (where
        it was pulled prior to auction).

        This piece has generated much discussion in the hobby, yet many
        questions remain unanswered.

        Les Hemstock purportedly consigned the Statue of Liberty piece to
        Profiles in History for their Hollywood Auction 28, held August 2-3,
        2007.

        In the last article, I posted a series of files (images and text)
        that were circulating among collectors, which illustrated an
        extensive restoration and reconstruction of the piece. Even assuming
        the piece is original and was from the production (which has not been
        publicly proven), those elements which would have been seen on screen
        (the back of the head and the spikes), per these files, they appear
        to be replicas (the spikes) or not exist (the back of the head).

        This update is to provide additional facts and information.

        As noted in the last article, Mr. Hemstock had started a topic under
        his "ansanaut" alias on the Movie Prop Forum to address public
        concerns from other hobbyists about items offered for sale through
        his kcotsmeh ("Hemstock" spelled backwards) eBay account. The Movie
        Prop Forum topic was titled: "PROP COLLECTORS!". Another topic
        directly related to the Statue of Liberty prop was titled: "PIH
        Auction whatsit?"

        With his own "PROP COLLECTORS!" topic, Mr. Hemstock identified
        himself and had posted a scan of a print feature published in
        SciFiNow magazine (about himself and his collection), but deleted the
        file after the discussion got underway. I did recall it had a photo
        of the Statue of Liberty prop, but failed to save the file before he
        deleted it.

        SciFiNow Magazine Online Discussion Forum

        I did find a topic started by Mr. Hemstock, under the same Movie Prop
        Forum alias of "ansanaut", on the SciFiNow Magazine discussion forums.

        Here is a link to the SciFiNow Magazine Discussion Forum topic from
        May 2007: "PLANET OF THE APES"
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        Group: potadg Message: 48008 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 3/29/2008
        Subject: Re: Originalprop.com
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        .html In a message dated 3/29/2008 9:24:17 AM Central Daylight Time, johnbkirtley@... writes:


        Here is a link to the SciFiNow Magazine Discussion Forum topic from
        May 2007: "PLANET OF THE APES"


        *** Is this link available anywhere? ***


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        Group: potadg Message: 48009 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 3/29/2008
        Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke RIP
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        .html Tim,
        I wouldn't be suprised if he did. He always had some kind of primate involved in some of his stories (novels).
         
        Wendy



        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        From: apefan23@...
        Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:28:31 -0700
        Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Arthur C. Clarke RIP

        I heard on NPR the other day that he had written a
        book maybe or had the idea at least , that had to do
        with training apes and monkeys to become servants!
        anyone know more about this?

        Tim

        --- Wendy Kostora <Willowape@hotmail. com> wrote:

        >
        > Neil,
        > Sorry to hear that he has past away. He was the
        > science fiction father to us all. He will be
        > terribly missed.
        > Both my husband and I are avid readers of his.
        > Swayer will be crushed too.
        >
        > Wendy
        >
        >
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. comFrom:
        > ntfoster@bigpond. comDate : Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:35:10
        > +1000Subject: [PotaDG] Arthur C. Clarke RIP
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > A sad loss, another one of the greats dies. At least
        > he had a good long life.
        >
        > Neil
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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        >
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        Subject: Birthday Reminder
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        Reminder from:   PotaDG Yahoo! Group
         
        Title:   Ted Post's Birthday
         
        Date:   Monday March 31, 2008
        Time:   All Day
        Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
        Notes:   Happy Birthday Ted!
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        Group: potadg Message: 48011 From: nlmoxham Date: 3/31/2008
        Subject: Is it just me?.....
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        A while ago I was walking past the apartment block opposite mine with
        my wife when she looked at it and said 'that looks like Planet of the
        Apes' (meaning Conquest). Spookily, I'd been thinking the same thing
        since we moved to the area, but had just put it down to my obsession.

        http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee168/MagicManky/apes%20building/?
        action=view¤t=finglasapes1.jpg

        So, should I watch out for rampaging gorillas next time I pass by??
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        Group: potadg Message: 48012 From: jessica rotich Date: 3/31/2008
        Subject: Re: Is it just me?.....
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        NEAT!!!  Where is this?
         
        Jessica.

         
        On 3/31/08, nlmoxham < neilmoxham@...> wrote:

        A while ago I was walking past the apartment block opposite mine with
        my wife when she looked at it and said 'that looks like Planet of the
        Apes' (meaning Conquest). Spookily, I'd been thinking the same thing
        since we moved to the area, but had just put it down to my obsession.

        http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee168/MagicManky/apes%20building/?
        action=view&current=finglasapes1.jpg

        So, should I watch out for rampaging gorillas next time I pass by??


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        Group: potadg Message: 48013 From: Neil Foster Date: 3/31/2008
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          -- I think you'll be okay, or then again will you?!? ;-)
           
           
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
          Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 7:33 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Is it just me?.....

          A while ago I was walking past the apartment block opposite mine with
          my wife when she looked at it and said 'that looks like Planet of the
          Apes' (meaning Conquest). Spookily, I'd been thinking the same thing
          since we moved to the area, but had just put it down to my obsession.

          http://s229. photobucket. com/albums/ ee168/MagicManky /apes%20building /?
          action=view& current=finglasa pes1.jpg

          So, should I watch out for rampaging gorillas next time I pass by??

          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 48014 From: nlmoxham Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: Is it just me?.....
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          Dublin. Ireland.

          We refer to it now as the 'Apes building', but a friend of mine calls
          it 'the wheelchair-unfriendly'


          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "jessica rotich" <jessicarotich@...>
          wrote:
          >
          > NEAT!!! Where is this?
          >
          > Jessica.
          >
          >
          > On 3/31/08, nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
          > >
          > > A while ago I was walking past the apartment block opposite
          mine with
          > > my wife when she looked at it and said 'that looks like Planet of
          the
          > > Apes' (meaning Conquest). Spookily, I'd been thinking the same
          thing
          > > since we moved to the area, but had just put it down to my
          obsession.
          > >
          > > http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee168/MagicManky/apes%
          20building/?
          > > action=view¤t=finglasapes1.jpg
          > >
          > > So, should I watch out for rampaging gorillas next time I pass
          by??
          > >
          > >
          > >
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 48015 From: John Date: 4/1/2008
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          Hehehe. I can see herds of apes being led down those steps.



          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
          >
          > A while ago I was walking past the apartment block opposite mine with
          > my wife when she looked at it and said 'that looks like Planet of the
          > Apes' (meaning Conquest). Spookily, I'd been thinking the same thing
          > since we moved to the area, but had just put it down to my obsession.
          >
          > http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee168/MagicManky/apes%20building/?
          > action=view¤t=finglasapes1.jpg
          >
          > So, should I watch out for rampaging gorillas next time I pass by??
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 48016 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
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             I found this topic while cleaning out my posts. The question of whether Paula Crist could've played a background ape in "Battle", and the fine line of "playing an ape" meaning a speaking role. I mentioned this fine line to Bill Blake and he said No, she did NOT play an ape of any stripe in any of the movies or TV show. He lived with her and saw all of her pictures. There's plenty of her as the human (as seen in "Simian Scrolls") but she had not one picture of her as an ape on the set. Bill says if she did it she would've had the pictures.
            Anyway, since I came across this post, I thought I'd finish this topic.  Jeff
           
          ----- Original Message -----
          Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:03 AM
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] WonderCon 2

          *** And that's what I said, although it can be hard to interpret meaning just by reading sometimes.

          What I was getting at is this: When she met Arthur, he was impressed enough to offer her a role in BATTLE... When time for filming came along, Arthur was sick so she wasn't just a shoe in...  The casting director didn't give her a speaking role as an ape (or a human for that matter) because she lacked the SAG card...

          She was an ape, albeit a background extra (who did not speak). That's why I kept trying to differentiate between a background ape as being a non-speaking role. A non-speaking role equates to no need for a SAG card because you're technically not "acting", you're a prop/atmosphere piece.

          In a message dated 2/24/2008 12:03:57 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:


          A background ape wouldn't speak. She could of played an ape without a SAG card. But let's face it, what she got was pretty damn good. I'd prefer a close-up of myself to being a background ape. There's no denying it's her.


          ----- Original Message -----
          From: mlccougar@aol. com
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
          Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:17 AM
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] WonderCon 2


          In a message dated 2/24/2008 2:26:21 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:


          She didn't do stunts or play an ape in any of the movies or shows (in the magazine she says she played a background chimp but Bill says that's not true). In fact she was pretty upset because Arthur Jacobs told her she'd play an ape and she didn't get to.



          *** The reason she didn't get to play an ape was because the casting director wouldn't give her a speaking role because she wasn't in the Screen Actors Guild. Of course we know she was the blonde in the corral and she was an ape in the film, but as a background extra. ***







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          Group: potadg Message: 48017 From: Neil Foster Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
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          -- I did think it a bit strange that in her scrolls interview she mentions having the make-up applied by a Fox Studio make-up artist and the difficulties of not ruining the make-up when eating and of sweat loosening the appliances. Surely if she was a background ape extra she would have just had a pull over mask?
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
          Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:29 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] WonderCon 2

             I found this topic while cleaning out my posts. The question of whether Paula Crist could've played a background ape in "Battle", and the fine line of "playing an ape" meaning a speaking role. I mentioned this fine line to Bill Blake and he said No, she did NOT play an ape of any stripe in any of the movies or TV show. He lived with her and saw all of her pictures. There's plenty of her as the human (as seen in "Simian Scrolls") but she had not one picture of her as an ape on the set. Bill says if she did it she would've had the pictures.
          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 48018 From: bigapefan62 Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
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          so is someone saying that someone is lying here or what?

          Mandy

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
          >
          > -- I did think it a bit strange that in her scrolls interview she
          > mentions having the make-up applied by a Fox Studio make-up artist
          and
          > the difficulties of not ruining the make-up when eating and of sweat
          > loosening the appliances. Surely if she was a background ape extra
          she
          > would have just had a pull over mask?
          >
          > Neil
          >
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf
          > Of Jeff K.
          > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:29 AM
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] WonderCon 2
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > I found this topic while cleaning out my posts. The question of
          > whether Paula Crist could've played a background ape in "Battle",
          and
          > the fine line of "playing an ape" meaning a speaking role. I
          mentioned
          > this fine line to Bill Blake and he said No, she did NOT play an
          ape of
          > any stripe in any of the movies or TV show. He lived with her and
          saw
          > all of her pictures. There's plenty of her as the human (as seen in
          > "Simian Scrolls") but she had not one picture of her as an ape on
          the
          > set. Bill says if she did it she would've had the pictures.
          > .
          >
          > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
          s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
          > sgId=48016/stime=1207077360/nc1=5008817/nc2=3858796/nc3=3848621>
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 48019 From: Neil Foster Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
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          -- Let me just state that I for one am not accusing anyone of lying. Just pointing out what to me seem to be odd discrepancies. I just find it strange that they would go to all the trouble of putting appliances on a background extra ape when they usually just used masks, more so on the movie that had the smallest budget of the lot.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bigapefan62
          Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 6:33 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Re: WonderCon 2

          so is someone saying that someone is lying here or what?

          Mandy

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
          >
          > -- I did think it a bit strange that in her scrolls interview she
          > mentions having the make-up applied by a Fox Studio make-up artist
          and
          > the difficulties of not ruining the make-up when eating and of sweat
          > loosening the appliances. Surely if she was a background ape extra
          she
          > would have just had a pull over mask?

          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 48020 From: nlmoxham Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
          .html
          So were Bill & Paula romantically invoved? Does that explain the bad
          falling-out they had?

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
          >
          > I found this topic while cleaning out my posts. The question of
          whether Paula Crist could've played a background ape in "Battle", and
          the fine line of "playing an ape" meaning a speaking role. I
          mentioned this fine line to Bill Blake and he said No, she did NOT
          play an ape of any stripe in any of the movies or TV show. He lived
          with her and saw all of her pictures. There's plenty of her as the
          human (as seen in "Simian Scrolls") but she had not one picture of
          her as an ape on the set. Bill says if she did it she would've had
          the pictures.
          > Anyway, since I came across this post, I thought I'd finish this
          topic. Jeff
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: mlccougar@...
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:03 AM
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] WonderCon 2
          >
          >
          > *** And that's what I said, although it can be hard to interpret
          meaning just by reading sometimes.
          >
          > What I was getting at is this: When she met Arthur, he was
          impressed enough to offer her a role in BATTLE... When time for
          filming came along, Arthur was sick so she wasn't just a shoe in...
          The casting director didn't give her a speaking role as an ape (or a
          human for that matter) because she lacked the SAG card...
          >
          > She was an ape, albeit a background extra (who did not speak).
          That's why I kept trying to differentiate between a background ape as
          being a non-speaking role. A non-speaking role equates to no need for
          a SAG card because you're technically not "acting", you're a
          prop/atmosphere piece.
          >
          > In a message dated 2/24/2008 12:03:57 PM Central Standard Time,
          veetus@... writes:
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > A background ape wouldn't speak. She could of played an ape
          without a SAG card. But let's face it, what she got was pretty damn
          good. I'd prefer a close-up of myself to being a background ape.
          There's no denying it's her.
          >
          >
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: mlccougar@...
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:17 AM
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] WonderCon 2
          >
          >
          > In a message dated 2/24/2008 2:26:21 AM Central Standard
          Time, veetus@... writes:
          >
          >
          >
          > She didn't do stunts or play an ape in any of the movies or
          shows (in the magazine she says she played a background chimp but
          Bill says that's not true). In fact she was pretty upset because
          Arthur Jacobs told her she'd play an ape and she didn't get to.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > *** The reason she didn't get to play an ape was because the
          casting director wouldn't give her a speaking role because she wasn't
          in the Screen Actors Guild. Of course we know she was the blonde in
          the corral and she was an ape in the film, but as a background extra.
          ***
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > **************
          > Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
          > (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-
          eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 48021 From: Neil Foster Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
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          .html Message
          -- Tell you what, just forget I replied to what Jeff said. I'll probably just be seen as knocking scrolls again or Paula or something.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bigapefan62
          Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 6:33 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Re: WonderCon 2

          so is someone saying that someone is lying here or what?

          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 48022 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
          .html
          .html In a message dated 4/1/2008 2:52:15 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:


          -- I did think it a bit strange that in her scrolls interview she mentions having the make-up applied by a Fox Studio make-up artist and the difficulties of not ruining the make-up when eating and of sweat loosening the appliances. Surely if she was a background ape extra she would have just had a pull over mask?


          *** Not neccessarily... I mean look at all of the other background/atmosphere apes  that don't say a word in the film(s) and they all have regular appliances... ***



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          Group: potadg Message: 48023 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
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          .html
            Yes, Bill says she's lying (though I don't know why anyone would bother to lie about being a background ape). After all the time they spent living together (in the POTA business, no less) I think Bill would know something about this.
            It's possible she didn't take a picture, but if that was her career goal (to be an ape in a POTA movie) I doubt it.
           
          ----- Original Message -----
          Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 12:33 PM
          Subject: [PotaDG] Re: WonderCon 2

          so is someone saying that someone is lying here or what?

          Mandy

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
          >
          > -- I did think it a bit strange that in her scrolls interview she
          > mentions having the make-up applied by a Fox Studio make-up artist
          and
          > the difficulties of not ruining the make-up when eating and of sweat
          > loosening the appliances. Surely if she was a background ape extra
          she
          > would have just had a pull over mask?
          >
          > Neil
          >
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
          Behalf
          > Of Jeff K.
          > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:29 AM
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] WonderCon 2
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > I found this topic while cleaning out my posts. The question of
          > whether Paula Crist could've played a background ape in "Battle",
          and
          > the fine line of "playing an ape" meaning a speaking role. I
          mentioned
          > this fine line to Bill Blake and he said No, she did NOT play an
          ape of
          > any stripe in any of the movies or TV show. He lived with her and
          saw
          > all of her pictures. There's plenty of her as the human (as seen in
          > "Simian Scrolls") but she had not one picture of her as an ape on
          the
          > set. Bill says if she did it she would've had the pictures.
          > .
          >
          > <http://geo.yahoo. com/serv?
          s=97359714/grpId= 8605785/grpspId= 1705021437/ m
          > sgId=48016/stime= 1207077360/ nc1=5008817/ nc2=3858796/ nc3=3848621>
          >

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          Group: potadg Message: 48024 From: Jeff K. Date: 4/1/2008
          Subject: Re: WonderCon 2
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          .html
            Yes. But the falling out was professional and financial. He said she betrayed the partnership. But of course I haven't heard her side. All I know is what she supposedly did hurts him to this day.
           
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: nlmoxham
          Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 2:22 PM
          Subject: [PotaDG] Re: WonderCon 2

          So were Bill & Paula romantically invoved? Does that explain the bad
          falling-out they had?

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
          >
          > I found this topic while cleaning out my posts. The question of
          whether Paula Crist could've played a background ape in "Battle", and
          the fine line of "playing an ape" meaning a speaking role. I
          mentioned this fine line to Bill Blake and he said No, she did NOT
          play an ape of any stripe in any of the movies or TV show. He lived
          with her and saw all of her pictures. There's plenty of her as the
          human (as seen in "Simian Scrolls") but she had not one picture of
          her as an ape on the set. Bill says if she did it she would've had
          the pictures.
          > Anyway, since I came across this post, I thought I'd finish this
          topic. Jeff
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: mlccougar@.. .
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
          > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:03 AM
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] WonderCon 2
          >
          >
          > *** And that's what I said, although it can be hard to interpret
          meaning just by reading sometimes.
          >
          > What I was getting at is this: When she met Arthur, he was
          impressed enough to offer her a role in BATTLE... When time for
          filming came along, Arthur was sick so she wasn't just a shoe in...
          The casting director didn't give her a speaking role as an ape (or a
          human for that matter) because she lacked the SAG card...
          >
          > She was an ape, albeit a background extra (who did not speak).
          That's why I kept trying to differentiate between a background ape as
          being a non-speaking role. A non-speaking role equates to no need for
          a SAG card because you're technically not "acting", you're a
          prop/atmosphere piece.
          >
          > In a message dated 2/24/2008 12:03:57 PM Central Standard Time,
          veetus@... writes:
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > A background ape wouldn't speak. She could of played an ape
          without a SAG card. But let's face it, what she got was pretty damn
          good. I'd prefer a close-up of myself to being a background ape.
          There's no denying it's her.
          >
          >
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: mlccougar@.. .
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
          > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 1:17 AM
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] WonderCon 2
          >
          >
          > In a message dated 2/24/2008 2:26:21 AM Central Standard
          Time, veetus@... writes:
          >
          >
          >
          > She didn't do stunts or play an ape in any of the movies or
          shows (in the magazine she says she played a background chimp but
          Bill says that's not true). In fact she was pretty upset because
          Arthur Jacobs told her she'd play an ape and she didn't get to.
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > *** The reason she didn't get to play an ape was because the
          casting director wouldn't give her a speaking role because she wasn't
          in the Screen Actors Guild. Of course we know she was the blonde in
          the corral and she was an ape in the film, but as a background extra.
          ***
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > ************ **
          > Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
          > (http://living. aol.com/video/ how-to-please- your-picky-
          eater/rachel- campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID= aolcmp0030000000 2598)
          >

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