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Group: pota Message: 9906 From: happyfortune@yahoo.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: 200 million GREEN LIGHT!
Group: pota Message: 9907 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Impossible sequels
Group: pota Message: 9908 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9909 From: happyfortune@yahoo.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9910 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: 200 million GREEN LIGHT!
Group: pota Message: 9911 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9912 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Saw it!
Group: pota Message: 9913 From: CrystalRoses16@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Apes Time Line
Group: pota Message: 9914 From: Mez Downes Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
Group: pota Message: 9915 From: happyfortune@yahoo.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: TV show?
Group: pota Message: 9916 From: Brian Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Brian Penikis- International TV celeb.
Group: pota Message: 9917 From: CrystalRoses16@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: If You Wan't A Sequel..... Wright One
Group: pota Message: 9918 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9919 From: Mez Downes Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9920 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
Group: pota Message: 9921 From: Mez Downes Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
Group: pota Message: 9922 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: TV show?
Group: pota Message: 9923 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Burton 101
Group: pota Message: 9924 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
Group: pota Message: 9925 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Burton 101
Group: pota Message: 9926 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Burton 101
Group: pota Message: 9927 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
Group: pota Message: 9928 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Hows Planet of the apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9929 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Heston lines cut from PLANET
Group: pota Message: 9930 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Burton 101
Group: pota Message: 9931 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Box office? Gross!
Group: pota Message: 9932 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Hows Planet of the apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9933 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Hows Planet of the apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9934 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9935 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Delayed posts trying again.
Group: pota Message: 9936 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Thanks Tim
Group: pota Message: 9937 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: POTA complete Timeline!
Group: pota Message: 9938 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Best BUY has nov 20th for apes 2001
Group: pota Message: 9939 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: The right stuff
Group: pota Message: 9940 From: j vb Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Thanks Tim
Group: pota Message: 9941 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Heston lines cut from PLANET
Group: pota Message: 9942 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Best BUY has nov 20th for apes 2001
Group: pota Message: 9943 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Hows Planet of the apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9944 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9945 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9946 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: POTA complete Timeline!
Group: pota Message: 9947 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Delayed posts trying again.
Group: pota Message: 9948 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Simpsons Collector edition 3 dvd set
Group: pota Message: 9949 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9950 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9951 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Another one bites the dust
Group: pota Message: 9952 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9953 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Pandering to the lowest common denominator
Group: pota Message: 9954 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Impossible sequels
Group: pota Message: 9955 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Spelling
Group: pota Message: 9956 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9957 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Replace Marky?
Group: pota Message: 9958 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Throwing Stones
Group: pota Message: 9959 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Impossible sequels
Group: pota Message: 9960 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Video Clip - Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9961 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9962 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Delayed posts trying again.
Group: pota Message: 9963 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Hows Planet of the apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9964 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9965 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9966 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Simpsons Collector edition 3 dvd set
Group: pota Message: 9967 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9968 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust
Group: pota Message: 9969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Impossible sequels
Group: pota Message: 9970 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Spelling
Group: pota Message: 9971 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9972 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Weekend numbers- I love it!
Group: pota Message: 9973 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Check out ShowBIZ: CRITIC REVERSES HIMSELF ON APES
Group: pota Message: 9974 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Check out WorldwideBoxoffice.com -- 3591 titles as of Aug 19 2001
Group: pota Message: 9975 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re-check the last link Rory
Group: pota Message: 9976 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Check out WorldwideBoxoffice.com -- 3591 titles as of Aug 19 20
Group: pota Message: 9977 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Re-check the last link Rory
Group: pota Message: 9978 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9979 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9980 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Check out Weekend Box Office
Group: pota Message: 9981 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Check out Weekend Box Office
Group: pota Message: 9982 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Check out Amazon.com: buying info: An American Werewolf in London
Group: pota Message: 9983 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9984 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Thanks Tim
Group: pota Message: 9985 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9986 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9987 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
Group: pota Message: 9988 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Burton 101
Group: pota Message: 9989 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Pandering to the lowest common denominator
Group: pota Message: 9990 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9991 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9992 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9993 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9994 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: POTA complete Timeline!
Group: pota Message: 9995 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: If You Wan't A Sequel..... Wright One
Group: pota Message: 9996 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9997 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 9998 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 9999 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
Group: pota Message: 10000 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: If You Wan't A Sequel..... Write One
Group: pota Message: 10001 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 10002 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: Burton 101
Group: pota Message: 10003 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 10004 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
Group: pota Message: 10005 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Paging Mr. Vernaet


Group: pota Message: 9906 From: happyfortune@yahoo.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: 200 million GREEN LIGHT!
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Hi!

--- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:
[snip]
> READ AND UNDERSTAND MY FRIEND:
> www.calima5021.com/calima.htm

Very cool! I like it!

Best Wishes!
J.
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Group: pota Message: 9907 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Impossible sequels
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I agree, especially in the case of Roddy, who was such a movie lover. He
made all that time in his last year to do the documentary stuff, and for
both of them it was such an important series in their career. They've had
about as much time to watch them as most of us have been alive! I can only
assume they heeded Zauis' advice: "Don't look for it. You may not like what
you find". - - - K.


----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Impossible sequels


>
> In a message dated 8/19/01 1:13:19 AM, williejoe@... writes:
>
> << I'm not complaining. It was interesting to see him as an ape. I just
wish
> the scene was better. I just kinda resented his old comment of "adventures
> among the monkeys". I would say "Escape" and "Conquest" were more than
that.
> 'Course he never saw those. >>
>
> Yeah, I wonder why he never had the time to just watch any of the sequels
for
> curiosity's sake. Same with Roddy. He said he never saw "Beneath." I find
> that amazing. Didn't he have a spare 2 hours somewhere in the those last
30
> years of his life to at least check it out?
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 9908 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/19/01 11:25:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:


 All I know is it's going to be tough to pull a sequel together if Burton
doesn't do it. The cast said that's the only way they'd return. There has
to be SOME continuity because of that ending. But they could do just by
getting Wahlberg.

Let's have a show of hands. Who wants a sequel? I do, because it's good
for the franchise overall. Plus the next one might be better. Do you want
this to be how today's kids know "Apes"?
                                                                           
  - - - Jeff K.



I want a sequel, BUT. . . . ONLY IF IT'S BETTER!   You're right, it will be
good for the franchise (If that's what you choose to call it -- I prefer
'legacy' [Less crass and commercial]), BUT. . . AGAIN. . . ONLY IF IT'S
BETTER.  As far as most of the cast returning. . . Do you really think it
matters?   Actor's under the makeup are easily replaceable (One of the few
problems I have with BENEATH is David Watson's Cornelius -- He's perfectly
fine.), and as far as Wahlberg goes. . . Well, I never wanted him in the
movie in the first place, so when the sequel opens the apes can just blow him
away right off the bat.

Would anyone here really miss Wahlberg?

-- Rory<.html
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Group: pota Message: 9909 From: happyfortune@yahoo.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
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--- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:
[snip]
> This net rumor holds about the same weight as that monkey love
> rumor not too long ago.

This is no rumour, my dear. This is an actual story from Reuters news
service. Burton is simply toast after working under the recent mad
deadline. I'm sure he'll come around after a short time. As I said
when I first posted this story, file it under "Money talks, BS walks."

Best Wishes!
J.
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Group: pota Message: 9910 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: 200 million GREEN LIGHT!
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Looks cool, Alex! But are you a witch doctor...or a prophet?
 
                                                                                - - - Jeff
 
hehehe!!
The site does seem a bit Tim Burtonish doesn't it?
I may have to make some changes. I like impact. But I think this has too much impact. Scary...hehehe!
 
Best,
Al
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Group: pota Message: 9911 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
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This is no rumour, my dear. This is an actual story from Reuters news
service. Burton is simply toast after working under the recent mad
deadline. I'm sure he'll come around after a short time. As I said
when I first posted this story, file it under "Money talks, BS walks."

Best Wishes!
J.
 
Okay my dear...hehehe!
 
Best,
Al
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Group: pota Message: 9912 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Saw it!
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/19/01 11:29:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:


Rory, that's probably the perfect one sentence description of the movie.
Let's petition Fox to put that on the DVD cover.

                                                                    - - -
- Jeff



Now that I re-read it I see it should be "then perhaps" rather THAN "than
perhaps."

See, Whitty, I've corrected myself!<.html
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Group: pota Message: 9913 From: CrystalRoses16@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Apes Time Line
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.html Not that this hasn't been discussed before, but why does every one seem to
think that Thade went back to the future? He doesn't have to. Not really. If
you look at the time line on the Apes official site. It looks like this.




Current Location                                Current Location
Apes City                                             Oberon

100               200       300       400       500
__________________________________________________________________________

                                Forbidden Zoon
                                 Current Location






 Okay Leo and Oberon went back to the past. If they did then Thade wouldn't
have to worry about his future. Leo would have changed it not matter what.
Not nesacierly meaning that Apes rulled,but that it would be diffrent.About
the horse thing. If the planet futiend like Earth. Then that means that other
animals could have evolved. Like in are Earth. As for air plains and such.
Who cares ?? Humans never saw flying machines before, and we still were abel
to accomplish flight.





The earth and ocean seem
To sleep in one another's arms, and dream
Of waves,flowers,clouds,woods, rooks, and all that we
Read in their smiles, and call reality.

 -   Percy Bysshe Shelley,Epipsychidion,1821


    http://www.upstate.edu/ent/velo..html/font>

      http://www.bartleby.com/139/shel1160.html <.html
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Group: pota Message: 9914 From: Mez Downes Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
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--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> I was interested to read a review on Salon.com that felt Leo and
> Ari's relationship should have been taken farther. Even more
> surprised to read that a woman wrote it.

I wish it had been taken farther too. The chemistry was certainly
there. (Whereas I got zilch from Daena and Leo.) But it's pretty
clear what happened to this film. FOX caved to PC and budget
concerns, forced Burton to get in line, and we got jello. /Mez
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Group: pota Message: 9915 From: happyfortune@yahoo.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: TV show?
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Hi!

--- In pota@y..., Haristas@a... wrote:
[snip]
> I would say that all the sequels were about more than
just "adventures among
> the monkeys," it's just that some were more successful than
others. Even
> every episode of the TV show had a message, the stupidity of
prejudice.
> Unfortunately, that all every episode was about and it got rather
tired.
> It'll be fun to get the shows on DVD and check them out again.


Yes, I'd say it would be fun, as well, because when the apes went
from BATTLE to the small screen I was devastated. I can't remember if
I saw any episodes of the series. At the time, I was one who thought
all TV production was crap.

Best Wishes!
J.
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Group: pota Message: 9916 From: Brian Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Brian Penikis- International TV celeb.
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.html I didn't think anyone would by that "freak" denial.  I forgot what kind of intelligence I'm dealing with from the ape sect.

I haven't seen the spot yet, but we had a great time doing it and it was the first time for me doing Ursus (Roy was working late at Rick Baker's on Men In Black 2, so I had to fill his boots).  BOY!! do I simpathize with anyone and everyone who's ever worn that rig in the past!!!

B

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

Down here in the land of Aus, we have a cable station called 'Arena' that
generally plays a lot of lightweight entertainment shows and a fair bit of
programming from E!. To pad out an hour of programming they often show 5 minute
'Hollywood' stories usually cut from other Entertainment Tonight type shows.
Anyway, today they ran a segment on Apemania showing the guys getting ready to
hit the town ( Universal Studios City Walk, by the look of it) in full Ape
regalia. It was a fun piece and our Brian got much of the airtime talking while
making up Dr Zaius ( who the reporter kept referring to as Dr Zuess). I think it
was taken from an English show called "Entertainment Now".
Brian also states that he is not a 'Freak'.
Sure you're not Bri. Just back away slowly and put down that banana.
Best,
KEN
 
 

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Group: pota Message: 9917 From: CrystalRoses16@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: If You Wan't A Sequel..... Wright One
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.html Well, heck  why not? You could do it as a fanfic. The whole groupe could be
a part of it , and we just see how close . Are crazy we are latter on .









The earth and ocean seem
To sleep in one another's arms, and dream
Of waves,flowers,clouds,woods, rooks, and all that we
Read in their smiles, and call reality.

 -   Percy Bysshe Shelley,Epipsychidion,1821


    http://www.upstate.edu/ent/velo..html/font>

      http://www.bartleby.com/139/shel1160.html <.html
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Group: pota Message: 9918 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/19/01 11:39:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
happyfortune@... writes:


--- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:
[snip]
> This net rumor holds about the same weight as that monkey love
> rumor not too long ago.

This is no rumour, my dear. This is an actual story from Reuters news
service. Burton is simply toast after working under the recent mad
deadline. I'm sure he'll come around after a short time. As I said
when I first posted this story, file it under "Money talks, BS walks."

Best Wishes!
J.
I still say Tim Burton WILL NOT do the sequel, if there is one.  I'm sure he
knows that he failed to make a very good movie and that with the demands of
the studio it's even more unlikely that he could make a better sequel.  He's
going to be more than happy to let another director do it.

-- Rory<.html
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Group: pota Message: 9919 From: Mez Downes Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
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> Let's have a show of hands. Who wants a sequel? I do, because it's
good for the franchise overall. Plus the next one might be better. Do
you want this to be how today's kids know "Apes"?
>
- - - Jeff K.

I'd love a sequel if there was a chance it'd be better. But the odds
are against, aren't they? Sequels rarely best the original, and FOX
would be in control again! /Mez
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Group: pota Message: 9920 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/19/01 11:44:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mdownes@... writes:


--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> I was interested to read a review on Salon.com that felt Leo and
> Ari's relationship should have been taken farther.  Even more
> surprised to read that a woman wrote it.

I wish it had been taken farther too. The chemistry was certainly
there. (Whereas I got zilch from Daena and Leo.) But it's pretty
clear what happened to this film. FOX caved to PC and budget
concerns, forced Burton to get in line, and we got jello. /Mez


Exactly, Mez!  FOX caved to PC completely, hence not even the pointed
political satire or social allegory of the original!!!   This is an anemic
APES made for a dumb moviegoing public.  Has anyone commented yet on the
newspaper ads here in the States for the film?  Wahlberg and Warren are
prominently featured with Attar way down in the corner!  This is being sold
as a date movie for teenagers!!!

Oh God, why didn't somebody shoot the baby chimp when this whole thing
started!

-- Rory<.html
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Group: pota Message: 9921 From: Mez Downes Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
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> Oh God, why didn't somebody shoot the baby chimp when this whole
> thing started!
>
> -- Rory

Savage! I'm getting the Right-to-Lifers after you. /Mez
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Group: pota Message: 9922 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: TV show?
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/19/01 11:45:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
happyfortune@... writes:


> It'll be fun to get the shows on DVD and check them out again.


Yes, I'd say it would be fun, as well, because when the apes went
from BATTLE to the small screen I was devastated. I can't remember if
I saw any episodes of the series. At the time, I was one who thought
all TV production was crap.

Best Wishes!
J.
Devastated, eh?   I was depressed, but I was devastated when it was cancelled
because I knew that was it.  An animated show followed, but APES was pretty
much over.  "Star Wars" really buried it.

-- Rory<.html
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Group: pota Message: 9923 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Burton 101
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  I think Burton's comments can be taken with a grain of salt. He also said this week, to Empire Online, that "I like to f*** with people's heads. His quote to them about a sequel was, "I did think about it, but the idea of me doing any of that right now, I'd rather jump out the window". That he even thought about it, and I guess Tim Roth said they discussed it (right, Alex?) probably means the experience wasn't that bad. Burton likes to come off as the anti-Hollywood artist.
 
 He was also reluctant to do the "Batman" sequel ("I didn't want to do the "Batman" sequel initially because I was kinda burnt out, and I din't know what I could bring to it.It took me a long time to get interested in it again". - - "Burton on Burton" book). But he came around.
 
 Right now it's up in the air whether Fox wants a sequel, but this is only it's 4rth weekend out and who knows what it will do overseas.  I think it would be fine if Burton returns, but he's only as good as his script so Fox needs to find the next Paul Dehn and support them.
 
                                                                           - - - - Jeff
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] No Tim Burton Sequel?

In a message dated 8/19/01 11:25:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:


 All I know is it's going to be tough to pull a sequel together if Burton
doesn't do it. The cast said that's the only way they'd return. There has
to be SOME continuity because of that ending. But they could do just by
getting Wahlberg.

Let's have a show of hands. Who wants a sequel? I do, because it's good
for the franchise overall. Plus the next one might be better. Do you want
this to be how today's kids know "Apes"?
                                                                           
  - - - Jeff K.



I want a sequel, BUT. . . . ONLY IF IT'S BETTER!   You're right, it will be
good for the franchise (If that's what you choose to call it -- I prefer
'legacy' [Less crass and commercial]), BUT. . . AGAIN. . . ONLY IF IT'S
BETTER.  As far as most of the cast returning. . . Do you really think it
matters?   Actor's under the makeup are easily replaceable (One of the few
problems I have with BENEATH is David Watson's Cornelius -- He's perfectly
fine.), and as far as Wahlberg goes. . . Well, I never wanted him in the
movie in the first place, so when the sequel opens the apes can just blow him
away right off the bat.

Would anyone here really miss Wahlberg?

-- Rory

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  Well, Rory. Can we say they're wrong? Look what the top movies were the last 2 weeks: "Rush Hour 2" and "American Pie 2". Hmmm.."Planet of the Apes 2". Sounds like a hit!
 
 Of course, that ad is a cheat because Leo barely looks at Daena. What's the box office this weekend? I hear the Nic Cage thing isn't doing well overseas.
 
                                                                     - - - - - Jeff
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo

In a message dated 8/19/01 11:44:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mdownes@... writes:


--- In pota@y..., LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> I was interested to read a review on Salon.com that felt Leo and
> Ari's relationship should have been taken farther.  Even more
> surprised to read that a woman wrote it.

I wish it had been taken farther too. The chemistry was certainly
there. (Whereas I got zilch from Daena and Leo.) But it's pretty
clear what happened to this film. FOX caved to PC and budget
concerns, forced Burton to get in line, and we got jello. /Mez


Exactly, Mez!  FOX caved to PC completely, hence not even the pointed
political satire or social allegory of the original!!!   This is an anemic
APES made for a dumb moviegoing public.  Has anyone commented yet on the
newspaper ads here in the States for the film?  Wahlberg and Warren are
prominently featured with Attar way down in the corner!  This is being sold
as a date movie for teenagers!!!

Oh God, why didn't somebody shoot the baby chimp when this whole thing
started!

-- Rory

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  I think Burton's comments can be taken with a grain of salt. He also said this week, to Empire Online, that "I like to f*** with people's heads. His quote to them about a sequel was, "I did think about it, but the idea of me doing any of that right now, I'd rather jump out the window". That he even thought about it, and I guess Tim Roth said they discussed it (right, Alex?) probably means the experience wasn't that bad. Burton likes to come off as the anti-Hollywood artist.
 
 He was also reluctant to do the "Batman" sequel ("I didn't want to do the "Batman" sequel initially because I was kinda burnt out, and I din't know what I could bring to it.It took me a long time to get interested in it again". - - "Burton on Burton" book). But he came around.
 
 Right now it's up in the air whether Fox wants a sequel, but this is only it's 4rth weekend out and who knows what it will do overseas.  I think it would be fine if Burton returns, but he's only as good as his script so Fox needs to find the next Paul Dehn and support them.
 
 
Well yeah I fully agree with that, and If I find the clip of that Tim Roth interview (I have over 4 hours of POTA T.V. footage) I'll place it on the site to finaly squash any rumors about Tim's Mind F***. Which he's does so well.
 
Best,
Alex
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He was also reluctant to do the "Batman" sequel ("I didn't want to do the
"Batman" sequel initially because I was kinda burnt out, and I din't know
what I could bring to it.It took me a long time to get interested in it
again". - - "Burton on Burton" book). But he came around.



Yeah, and "Batman Returns" SUCKED BIG TIME!!!!

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 Well, Rory. Can we say they're wrong? Look what the top movies were the
last 2 weeks: "Rush Hour 2" and "American Pie 2". Hmmm.."Planet of the Apes
2". Sounds like a hit!
                                                                     - - -
- - Jeff



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In the N.A.T.O. Presentation short there's part of a scene in PLANET that was
cut from the final film.  It's part of the scene where Taylor and Nova are in
his cage just before Julius comes with a hose and the pair are seperated.  
These are some lines Taylor speaks before he tries to teach Nova her name and
says, "Yeah, me Tarzan, you Jane."

With Nova's head resting on his lap, Taylor says these lines:

"They're afraid of me.  I can't hurt them, but... I somehow threaten them.  I
threaten their sense of simian superiority.  They'll have to kill me too."

It's not much, but I keep wondering if it should have been left in, but
perhaps it's better cut?

Anybody else who's watched it got an opinion?   Also, did you see that great
shot of the hunt leader firing his rifle.  THAT really should have been in
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  Good one, Rory. I had problems with "Batman Returns" but at least it was interest. I think that was the opposite extreme, in that Burton had too much power. He had done no wrong at that point, all of his films had been big hits and "Batman" was a monster. I forget the budget but it was way over $100 million and that was 10 years ago. It's an odd thing with Burton, his movies are so his own "vision" that n one knows where to jump in and say "That's not working". "Returns" is actually my favorite of the Batmans. There's actually 3 "Batman" movies in development, plus a "Catwoman" movie, so it can't be said Burton sinks franchises.
 
                                                                           - - - - - Jeff
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Burton 101

In a message dated 8/19/01 12:34:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:


He was also reluctant to do the "Batman" sequel ("I didn't want to do the
"Batman" sequel initially because I was kinda burnt out, and I din't know
what I could bring to it.It took me a long time to get interested in it
again". - - "Burton on Burton" book). But he came around.



Yeah, and "Batman Returns" SUCKED BIG TIME!!!!

I'd rather they dug up Richard Burton to do the sequel!

-- Rory

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 Alex - - -
 
 What's the link for that site you used to have that gives daily box office numbers?
 
                                                                              - - - - - Jeff
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 11:22 AM
Subject: [pota] Heston lines cut from PLANET

I've got a question for those that have the new "Behind" DVD.

In the N.A.T.O. Presentation short there's part of a scene in PLANET that was
cut from the final film.  It's part of the scene where Taylor and Nova are in
his cage just before Julius comes with a hose and the pair are seperated.  
These are some lines Taylor speaks before he tries to teach Nova her name and
says, "Yeah, me Tarzan, you Jane."

With Nova's head resting on his lap, Taylor says these lines:

"They're afraid of me.  I can't hurt them, but... I somehow threaten them.  I
threaten their sense of simian superiority.  They'll have to kill me too."

It's not much, but I keep wondering if it should have been left in, but
perhaps it's better cut?

Anybody else who's watched it got an opinion?   Also, did you see that great
shot of the hunt leader firing his rifle.  THAT really should have been in
the final film.

-- Rory

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Anybody know what place apes has fallen this weekend?I dont think anything
great started this weekend.Hopefully its in the Top 5 Bryan


Sorry Bryan,

Here's what I just got off Hollywood Reporter:

1. American Pie 2 $21.4 Million (Estimated)
2. Rush Hour 2      $19.2
3. Rat Race            $11.8
4. The Others        $10.8
5. The Princess Diaries   $9.5
6.  Captain Corelli's Mandolin   $7.1

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  Yeah, but the DVD sales will be sensational.
 
 Besides, "Apes" is probably # 6 with 7.0 million, that's not so bad, huh?
 
 Who knows what overseas will bring. And there's the "Apes" parodies in "Jay and Silent Bob", that'll help. And...
 
 Help me out here, Alex. Alex?!
 
                                                                                 - - - Jeff
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Hows Planet of the apes doing this weekend?

In a message dated 8/19/01 2:20:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Kay53531@...
writes:


Anybody know what place apes has fallen this weekend?I dont think anything
great started this weekend.Hopefully its in the Top 5 Bryan


Sorry Bryan,

Here's what I just got off Hollywood Reporter:

1. American Pie 2 $21.4 Million (Estimated)
2. Rush Hour 2      $19.2
3. Rat Race            $11.8
4. The Others        $10.8
5. The Princess Diaries   $9.5
6.  Captain Corelli's Mandolin   $7.1

And that's all she wrote.

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 9934 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 3:24:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Yeah, but the DVD sales will be sensational.

Besides, "Apes" is probably # 6 with 7.0 million, that's not so bad, huh?

Who knows what overseas will bring. And there's the "Apes" parodies in "Jay
and Silent Bob", that'll help. And...

Help me out here, Alex. Alex?!


- - - Jeff >>

LOL!!!! You're killing me, Jeff. Number six was "Captain Cosmelly's
Mandolin," but maybe APES was number 7? But really -- who cares? The
movie turned a profit, it wasn't a disaster -- at least not commercially --
and Alex is happy. What else can you ask?

As for me, I'm looking forward to the release of the 1966 "Batman" movie on
DVD next week, then the next batch of Universal Monster movies the week after
that. There's some films coming out in the next few weeks I know I'll go
see. The DVDs of "Citizen Kane" and a special edition "An American Werewolf
in London" comes out next month. The original "Planet of the Apes" is still
my favorite film. I look forward to the next time I watch my great looking
DVD of it. And so it goes, life goes on.

So, how's things with you?

-- Rory
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Didn't Pee Wee Herman say that once or twice?


Chris L.


On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 05:57:48 +0000 "j vb" <boiledkelp@...>
writes:

> oh puleeeze!
> That's as bad as someone tripping over their own feet and then
> saying: "I MEANT to do that."


> > Deep down, Burton is an "Apes" fan, and subconsciously he sabotaged
> > his own film so it wouldn't be competition in our hearts for the
original.
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:01:25 -0700 "Jack Krueger"
<williejoe@...> writes:

> The cartoon series takes place later than "Beneath". In the TV show
> the apes take over later than in "Conquest". The only way it would all
> fit is alternate timelines. It's all lies!
>
>

> Jeff K.


I actually have a timeline written where everything WORKS (and few of you
on the list have seen it). No alternate universes or anything like that.
It was originally supposed to go in the Russo book but Fox nixed it, then
Alex was going to put it up on prophecysite.com but now that's gone
(unless you'd still like to do something with it Alex?). I need a site
where this can be presented properly, then everyone can enjoy it.

Suggestions?


Chris L.
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Subject: Re: Best BUY has nov 20th for apes 2001
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In a message dated 8/15/01 11:48:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kay53531@... writes:

I would think Fox would want to release the new film on DVD before the TV
series.   At this point I have to say, "What difference does it make?"   
Sooner or later they both will be out.  After that then what will have have
to look forward too?  It sure was a lot more fun waiting for the new film to
come out than it was to see it.  So, relax and enjoy the wait.

-- Rory
 
 
Possibly the release of the Animated series? I'd watch that before I'd watch the new film again. But, I always did enjoy the animated series.
 
 
Chris L.
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Group: pota Message: 9939 From: Chris Lawless Date: 8/19/2001
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Dont you mean "Bloody Bastards...!" ?
 
 
Chris L.
 
 
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:16:38 EDT Haristas@... writes:


 
Did you see who's quoted on the new ads? :

                    "I loved that ending!"

                                  - - - - - - Rory Monteith

                  "It was better than I thought it would be!"

                                  - - - - - - Cougar, 2005


In a message dated 8/15/01 9:11:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Those BASTARDS at Fox.  How low will they go?  Have they no sense of decency?
 What's next?  They use my 'dump' line?

-- Rory, the quotable one
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me joke too. Same 'ting.

>From: Haristas@...
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] Thanks Tim
>Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 08:43:16 EDT
>
>In a message dated 8/19/01 1:58:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>boiledkelp@... writes:
>
>
> > oh puleeeze!
> > That's as bad as someone tripping over their own feet and then saying:
>"I
> > MEANT to do that."
> >
> > >
> > \Deep down, Burton is an "Apes" fan, and subconsciously he sabotaged his
> > >own film so it wouldn't be competition in our hearts for the original.
>\
> >
> >
>
>It's meant as a joke, pal. A lot of the comments some of us make here are
>meant to be ironic or sarcastic, even if we risk the ire of a certain
>Aussie.
> You know, the 'whitty' one!
>
>-- Rory


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Group: pota Message: 9941 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
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.htmlPeople i talk to very much want the tv series first.Its been too long since
anyone seen it.The new movie is out now,no big deal.Fans that hate the new
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Group: pota Message: 9944 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
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.htmlRory,I would want fox to do a dvd box set of the 1966 Batman series 5 dvd
set.its been off tv a long time.Would you want a set of the series also? Bryan
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Group: pota Message: 9945 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
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  I heard somewhere that Fox doesn't own the rights to the "Batman" TV show, just the 1966 movie. But Rory wants a special edition of "Batman Returns". Fox sold the rights to "Lost in Space"... to "Behind the POTA" director Kevin Burns!
 
                                                                            - - - - Jeff
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?

Rory,I would want fox to do a dvd box set of the 1966 Batman series 5 dvd
set.its been off tv a long time.Would you want a set of the series also? Bryan


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Group: pota Message: 9946 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
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Send a copy to Terry Hoknes. In 2004 he will put it on his website.


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From: "Chris Lawless" <lawford42@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA complete Timeline!


> On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:01:25 -0700 "Jack Krueger"
> <williejoe@...> writes:
>
> > The cartoon series takes place later than "Beneath". In the TV show
> > the apes take over later than in "Conquest". The only way it would all
> > fit is alternate timelines. It's all lies!
> >
> >
>
> > Jeff K.
>
>
> I actually have a timeline written where everything WORKS (and few of you
> on the list have seen it). No alternate universes or anything like that.
> It was originally supposed to go in the Russo book but Fox nixed it, then
> Alex was going to put it up on prophecysite.com but now that's gone
> (unless you'd still like to do something with it Alex?). I need a site
> where this can be presented properly, then everyone can enjoy it.
>
> Suggestions?
>
>
> Chris L.
> ____
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  Thanks Alex. $2 million a day? That's even more depressing.
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Subject: [pota] Delayed posts trying again.

 
Best,
Al


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Group: pota Message: 9948 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
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.htmlI know this is mostly ape subjects on here,But for fans of the Simpsons look
for the special 3 dvd set sept 25.All the first season 14 episodes.plus
behind scenes.Never seen episode that couldnt get past the network.Interviews
with the stars.drawing animation sketches.and lots more .39.95 sale price
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Group: pota Message: 9949 From: Kay53531@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
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.htmlWill kevin Burns put out Lost in Space on dvd?Lost in Space forever is a good
documentry of the show on dvd only.Like Behind the apes.shows all the robot
secrets and special effects of th Jupiter 2 flying in space.Hosted by Bill
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Group: pota Message: 9950 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
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"An American Werewolf in London"? You mean that thing with Rick Baker
makeup directed by the guy who played "Jake's Friend" in "Battle" whose
first film had a John Chambers cameo? Is that the one you mean?


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To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?


> In a message dated 08/19/2001 3:24:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << Yeah, but the DVD sales will be sensational.
>
> Besides, "Apes" is probably # 6 with 7.0 million, that's not so bad,
huh?
>
> Who knows what overseas will bring. And there's the "Apes" parodies in
"Jay
> and Silent Bob", that'll help. And...
>
> Help me out here, Alex. Alex?!
>
>
> - - - Jeff >>
>
> LOL!!!! You're killing me, Jeff. Number six was "Captain Cosmelly's
> Mandolin," but maybe APES was number 7? But really -- who cares? The
> movie turned a profit, it wasn't a disaster -- at least not
commercially --
> and Alex is happy. What else can you ask?
>
> As for me, I'm looking forward to the release of the 1966 "Batman" movie
on
> DVD next week, then the next batch of Universal Monster movies the week
after
> that. There's some films coming out in the next few weeks I know I'll go
> see. The DVDs of "Citizen Kane" and a special edition "An American
Werewolf
> in London" comes out next month. The original "Planet of the Apes" is
still
> my favorite film. I look forward to the next time I watch my great
looking
> DVD of it. And so it goes, life goes on.
>
> So, how's things with you?
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
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  Now people are changing the few good reviews "Apes" got! This website says a Canadian critic who gave it 4 stars is writing a new review taking away a star.
 
 
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Subject: [pota] Delayed posts trying again.

 
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Al


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  Kevin Burns is humongous "lost in Space" fan who is trying to get a "next generation" LIS series on the air. I think the episodes are already on DVD, some of them.
 
 
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Subject: Re: [pota] How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?

Will kevin Burns put out Lost in Space on dvd?Lost in Space forever is a good
documentry of the show on dvd only.Like Behind the apes.shows all the robot
secrets and special effects of th Jupiter 2 flying in space.Hosted by Bill
Mummy and Johnathan Harris with cast interviews!Bryan

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I agree - in Britain or in Aus, or even in France (just not Japan -
PLEEEEASE!!!!).

Michael

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Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2001 17:01
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Pandering to the lowest common denominator


<< It's a dangerous assumption they make, one that is slowly
driving the US film industry out of business and moving it to places
where quality and real talent are still the bread and butter of film-
making. >>

I wish the new film had been made in Britain, Mez.
Some of the best films I've seen have come from there.
Without any interference from the Hollywood bigwigs.




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Group: pota Message: 9954 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Impossible sequels
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Fox's only top box-office is Apes.
It's only a few million behind JP III and that has a week on it. If they don't do a sequel they are fools!
BTW the reason Heston couldn't find a spare couple of hours to watch the sequels, is because he wasn't in them.
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Group: pota Message: 9955 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Spelling
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Touche!
 
And it is "witty" by nature, Whitty by name.
 
Now back off or I'll send Alex in..................
 
You there Al?  Go get Rory!!!!  Be savage - mention the new movie a few times!!!!
 
Malicious Michael
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Sunday, 19 August 2001 22:43
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Thanks Tim

In a message dated 8/19/01 1:58:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
boiledkelp@... writes:


oh puleeeze!
That's as bad as someone tripping over their own feet and then saying: "I
MEANT to do that."

>
\Deep down, Burton is an "Apes" fan, and subconsciously he sabotaged his
>own film so it wouldn't be competition in our hearts for the original. \



It's meant as a joke, pal.  A lot of the comments some of us make here are
meant to be ironic or sarcastic, even if we risk the ire of a certain Aussie.
  You know, the 'whitty' one!

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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Group: pota Message: 9956 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Sequel?
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Bring it on.
 
Kill Leo in the first 5 minutes then go with the Monkey Planet script.
 
By the way, the BOOK by Boulle is selling well under the guise of the new movie (the photo on cover) and I have had comment from quite a few people that they MUCH prefered Boulle's Novel to the new movie.
 
In all seriousness, if enough people say the same......who knows?
 
Michael
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
 
 Let's have a show of hands. Who wants a sequel? I do, because it's good for the franchise overall. Plus the next one might be better. Do you want this to be how today's kids know "Apes"?
                                                                              - - - Jeff K.
 
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Group: pota Message: 9957 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Replace Marky?
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No.
 
Kill him.
 
I'll laugh.  Just don't replace him with DiCaprio (spelling).
 
Michael


Would anyone here really miss Wahlberg?

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 9958 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Throwing Stones
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Good to see Rory.  Now if you hadn't gone throwing stones.......
 
And you can call me Michael (especially after all the talk about your ass, I feel close to you - if not related).
 
Michael
 
-----Original Message-----

Now that I re-read it I see it should be "then perhaps" rather THAN "than
perhaps."

See, Whitty, I've corrected myself!

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Group: pota Message: 9959 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
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Agreed. That opening weekend is hard to ignore. I think a sequel is a done
deal. How are the merch selling? Doesn't look like much got released. I
think there's more "Harry Potter" stuff.

-
- - - Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Impossible sequels


> Fox's only top box-office is Apes.
> It's only a few million behind JP III and that has a week on it. If they
don't do a sequel they are fools!
> BTW the reason Heston couldn't find a spare couple of hours to watch the
sequels, is because he wasn't in them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 9960 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Video Clip - Burton Sequel?
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The clip is up gang:
 
Tim Burton Sequel?
You be the judge.
 
Best,
Al
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Group: pota Message: 9961 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Sequel?
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 That would be great if they go with a "Monkey Planet" scenario for the sequel, especially since 2003 is the 40th anniversary of the book.                                      - - - Jeff
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 3:07 PM
Subject: [pota] Sequel?

Bring it on.
 
Kill Leo in the first 5 minutes then go with the Monkey Planet script.
 
By the way, the BOOK by Boulle is selling well under the guise of the new movie (the photo on cover) and I have had comment from quite a few people that they MUCH prefered Boulle's Novel to the new movie.
 
In all seriousness, if enough people say the same......who knows?
 
Michael
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
 
 Let's have a show of hands. Who wants a sequel? I do, because it's good for the franchise overall. Plus the next one might be better. Do you want this to be how today's kids know "Apes"?
                                                                              - - - Jeff K.
 


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Group: pota Message: 9962 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Delayed posts trying again.
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Thanks Alex. $2 million a day? That's even more depressing.
 
160 million U.S. not bad. :o)
 
Best,
Al
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Group: pota Message: 9963 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Hows Planet of the apes doing this weekend?
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 5:30:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kay53531@... writes:

<< Rory,Is apes still in the top ten?Or is it off the chart? Bryan >>

As far as I know at this point (7:50 PM Sunday) it's in the top ten. Number
seven, I believe, but we'll know the actual numbers tomorrow.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 9964 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 5:35:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kay53531@... writes:

<< Rory,I would want fox to do a dvd box set of the 1966 Batman series 5 dvd
set.its been off tv a long time.Would you want a set of the series also?
Bryan
>>

The entire Adam West/Burt Ward "Batman" TV series on DVD? Hell, why not?

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 9965 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 5:39:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< I heard somewhere that Fox doesn't own the rights to the "Batman" TV
show, just the 1966 movie. But Rory wants a special edition of "Batman
Returns". Fox sold the rights to "Lost in Space"... to "Behind the POTA"
director Kevin Burns!


- - - - Jeff >>

Oh, Krueger, you always throw cold water on everything! Who does own the
rights to the "Batman" TV show then? And I'm sure Burns has his plans for
"Lost and Space," so stay tuned.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 9966 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Simpsons Collector edition 3 dvd set
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 5:44:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Kay53531@... writes:

<< I know this is mostly ape subjects on here,But for fans of the Simpsons
look
for the special 3 dvd set sept 25.All the first season 14 episodes.plus
behind scenes.Never seen episode that couldnt get past the
network.Interviews
with the stars.drawing animation sketches.and lots more .39.95 sale price
29.95 should be cool for the die hard fans.Un edited stuff also.Bryan >>

Hopefully Blockbuster will have it for rental. I'm waiting for the second
season of "The Sopranos." I don't have HBO, so I've only seen season one on
DVD. Two comes out in November.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 9967 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 5:52:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< "An American Werewolf in London"? You mean that thing with Rick Baker
makeup directed by the guy who played "Jake's Friend" in "Battle" whose
first film had a John Chambers cameo? Is that the one you mean?
>>

Yeah, Jeff, that's the movie!!! You ever seen it?

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 9968 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Another one bites the dust
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 5:55:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Now people are changing the few good reviews "Apes" got! This website
says a Canadian critic who gave it 4 stars is writing a new review taking
away a star. >>

Yeah, I saw that!!! Alex is going to have a heart attack!

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 9969 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Impossible sequels
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 6:12:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

<< Fox's only top box-office is Apes.
It's only a few million behind JP III and that has a week on it. If they
don't do a sequel they are fools!
BTW the reason Heston couldn't find a spare couple of hours to watch the
sequels, is because he wasn't in them.
>>

You got that right, T! Heston's only interested in himself. "Beneath"'s
director, Ted Post, doesn't have much good to say about 'ol Chuck.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 9970 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Spelling
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 6:15:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Touche!

And it is "witty" by nature, Whitty by name.

Now back off or I'll send Alex in..................

You there Al? Go get Rory!!!! Be savage - mention the new movie a few
times!!!!

Malicious Michael >>

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

heheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheherheheheheheh

ehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehhehehehehehe!!!
Ouch!! I think I hurt my finger!
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Group: pota Message: 9971 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Sequel?
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In a message dated 08/19/2001 6:16:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< By the way, the BOOK by Boulle is selling well under the guise of the new
movie (the photo on cover) and I have had comment from quite a few people
that they MUCH prefered Boulle's Novel to the new movie.

In all seriousness, if enough people say the same......who knows?

Michael >>

A baboon would like the book better than the movie, but in all seriousness,
they had their chance to shoot the book -- AND THEY BLEW IT!!!

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 9972 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Weekend numbers- I love it!
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As far as I know at this point (7:50 PM Sunday) it's in the top ten.  Number
seven, I believe, but we'll know the actual numbers tomorrow.

-- Rory
 
Weekend numbers.
POTA number 7 with 160.9 million so far in the U.S.
I can live with that, and so can FOX.
ROCK ON!
 
Best,
Al
 
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Group: pota Message: 9973 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Check out ShowBIZ: CRITIC REVERSES HIMSELF ON APES
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.htmlClick here: ShowBIZ: CRITIC REVERSES HIMSELF ON APES

Here's that item.  It's pretty interesting.  Now if only Roeper will get real.

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Group: pota Message: 9974 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Check out WorldwideBoxoffice.com -- 3591 titles as of Aug 19 2001
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.htmlClick here: WorldwideBoxoffice.com -- 3591 titles as of Aug 19 2001

Not quite $160 million yet, Alex!   $158.9     You better go see the movie a
few dozen more times.   You too, Krueger!   And take T with 'ya!   I'm
waiting for the DVD.

-- Rory<.html
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Group: pota Message: 9975 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re-check the last link Rory
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You calling me a lier Rory?
158.8 as of Saturday!!!!
 
 
160.9 as of SNUDAY!
 
See for yourself.
 
Best,
Al
 
P.S. the last link I sent you before:
If you followed the page on GURU (the other link), you will see 160.9 Million.
But what does it matter anyway.
 
IT'S A HIT!!!!!
hehehe!!!
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 9976 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Check out WorldwideBoxoffice.com -- 3591 titles as of Aug 19 20
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  It's $161 million, Rory. Check out that Boxoffice Guru website Alex provided.  Only $7 million away from "Jurassic". Woo Hooo, come on baby, Mrs. zanuck needs a new pair of shoes!
 
                                                                            - - - - Jeff
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 5:59 PM
Subject: [pota] Check out WorldwideBoxoffice.com -- 3591 titles as of Aug 19 2001

Click here: WorldwideBoxoffice.com -- 3591 titles as of Aug 19 2001

Not quite $160 million yet, Alex!   $158.9     You better go see the movie a
few dozen more times.   You too, Krueger!   And take T with 'ya!   I'm
waiting for the DVD.

-- Rory

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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Group: pota Message: 9977 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Re-check the last link Rory
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/19/01 9:08:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:


You calling me a lier Rory?
158.8 as of Saturday!!!!

http://www.showbizdata.com/contacts/dailybox.htm

160.9 as of SNUDAY!

See for yourself.

Best,
Al

P.S. the last link I sent you before:
If you followed the page on GURU (the other link), you will see 160.9
Million.
But what does it matter anyway.



Okay, Alex, you win!  Whatever!   Only please don't heheheh me!

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Group: pota Message: 9978 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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I saw it. Baker's first Oscar. Now that's a mix of humor and horror that
works, Burton! What's on the "special edition"?

- -
- - Jeff


----- Original Message -----
From: <Haristas@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?


> In a message dated 08/19/2001 5:52:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << "An American Werewolf in London"? You mean that thing with Rick Baker
> makeup directed by the guy who played "Jake's Friend" in "Battle" whose
> first film had a John Chambers cameo? Is that the one you mean?
> >>
>
> Yeah, Jeff, that's the movie!!! You ever seen it?
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 9979 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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I don't know who owns the rights to "Batman" TV. I think it's in that chat
with the Fox chap (homevideo theatre.com or somethin').


----- Original Message -----
From: <Haristas@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?


> In a message dated 08/19/2001 5:39:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << I heard somewhere that Fox doesn't own the rights to the "Batman" TV
> show, just the 1966 movie. But Rory wants a special edition of "Batman
> Returns". Fox sold the rights to "Lost in Space"... to "Behind the POTA"
> director Kevin Burns!
>
>
> - - - - Jeff >>
>
> Oh, Krueger, you always throw cold water on everything! Who does own the
> rights to the "Batman" TV show then? And I'm sure Burns has his plans for
> "Lost and Space," so stay tuned.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 9980 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Check out Weekend Box Office
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.htmlClick here: Weekend Box Office

Okay, it took me awhile to get to this boxoffice guru.   Yeah, $161 million!!!

Alright, looks like it might make it to $180 million, but will Alex be able
to go see it that many times?

Hehehehe!

-- Rory <.html
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Group: pota Message: 9981 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Check out Weekend Box Office
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Alright, looks like it might make it to $180 million, but will Alex be able
to go see it that many times?

Hehehehe!

-- Rory
 
 
As Jackie G. would say:
Well la hardy har har.... :o)
 
(Honeymooners)
 
Best,
Al
 
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Group: pota Message: 9982 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Check out Amazon.com: buying info: An American Werewolf in London
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Read about it for yourself, Krueger!

-- Rory <.html
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Group: pota Message: 9983 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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In a message dated 8/19/01 2:57:05 PM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< As for me, I'm looking forward to the release of the 1966 "Batman" movie
on
DVD next week, then the next batch of Universal Monster movies the week
after
that. >>

Off topic but I'm meeting Adam West, Burt Ward, Frank Gorshin, Julie Newmar,
and Yvonne Craig in October at a con here in Texas. If you are interested in
getting any autographs of them email me off the list and I'll give you a
guess of what they will cost. I didn't know the DVD was coming out. I'll have
to get it and maybe have them all sign it. Still no POTA actors coming to
shows. I've asked many times for them but they ignore me. I think I'll ask
Adam West what Roddy McDowall was like to work with since he was the Bookworm.

Loc
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Group: pota Message: 9984 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Thanks Tim
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In a message dated 8/19/01 7:44:56 AM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< It's meant as a joke, pal. A lot of the comments some of us make here are
meant to be ironic or sarcastic, even if we risk the ire of a certain
Aussie. >>

Yeah, I'd say it was a five on the Sarchasim Detector I*****l
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Group: pota Message: 9985 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
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<< Let's have a show of hands. Who wants a sequel? I do, because it's good
for the franchise overall. Plus the next one might be better. Do you want
this to be how today's kids know "Apes"? >>

The only way a sequel will work is if they do the next one like the book, and
not worry so much about FXs and giant sets, but concentrate on the acting and
the writing. I won't mind the first one not being so great if they use it as
a springboard to something better.
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Group: pota Message: 9986 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
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<< (One of the few
problems I have with BENEATH is David Watson's Cornelius -- He's perfectly
fine.), and as far as Wahlberg goes. . . Well, I never wanted him in the
movie in the first place, so when the sequel opens the apes can just blow
him
away right off the bat.
Would anyone here really miss Wahlberg? >>

Too right! Did anyone really care that Harrison Ford replaced Alec Baldwin
in the Clancey novel movies? To quote the late great Buckshot Roberts when
asked if he wanted to surrender to Billy the Kid, and the other Regulators ...
"Not much, Maryann!
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Group: pota Message: 9987 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: (Saw it!) Ari & Leo
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In a message dated 8/19/01 10:44:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
mdownes@... writes:

<< FOX caved to PC and budget
concerns, forced Burton to get in line, and we got jello. /Mez >>

Yeah, put that on the cover!
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Group: pota Message: 9988 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Burton 101
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In a message dated 8/19/01 11:34:37 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< but this is only it's 4rth weekend out and who knows what it will do
overseas. >>

When you can't even get repete business from some Apes fans, I doubt it will
do more than $185 M domestic. Chances of them doubling their money here are
silm to none.
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Group: pota Message: 9989 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: Pandering to the lowest common denominator
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In a message dated 8/19/01 5:01:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< I agree - in Britain or in Aus, or even in France (just not Japan -
PLEEEEASE!!!!). >>

Not France, Please! I'm still recovering from have to watch that French New
Wave piece O' Shite! Breathless in two different film classes! Unless they
do in verbatim from the novel in French!
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Group: pota Message: 9990 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/19/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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In a message dated 8/19/01 8:18:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<>

Now, can you tell me the number of actresses who have used their Oscars as a
phallus?
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Group: pota Message: 9991 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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Well, Roger Ebert summed it up, when talking about Big Budget B Pictures. He
said they were formula pics with big budgets and the last thing they wanted
to be was daring or original. And stray away from tackling tough or
controversial issues.
And then proceeded to lump Apes in with the likes of Tomb Raider. That
pretty much says it all.
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Group: pota Message: 9992 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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In a message dated 8/19/01 10:22:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

<< Yvonne Craig in October at a con here in Texas. >>

Yvonne Craig?
In Texas?
Where!?!
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Group: pota Message: 9993 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
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Plano, Texas. All the details about the show are at www.scifiexpo.com. Hope
to see you at the there!

Loc


In a message dated 8/20/01 12:23:50 AM Central Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

<< In a message dated 8/19/01 10:22:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

<< Yvonne Craig in October at a con here in Texas. >>

Yvonne Craig?
In Texas?
Where!?!
>>
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Group: pota Message: 9994 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: POTA complete Timeline!
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Come on Alex - the new movie NEEDS this!!!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Lawless [lawford42@...]
Sent: Monday, 20 August 2001 5:57
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA complete Timeline!

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:01:25 -0700 "Jack Krueger"
<williejoe@...> writes:

> The cartoon series takes place later than "Beneath". In the TV show
> the apes take over later than in "Conquest". The only way it would all
> fit is alternate timelines. It's all lies!
>
>

> Jeff K.


I actually have a timeline written where everything WORKS (and few of you
on the list have seen it). No alternate universes or anything like that.
It was originally supposed to go in the Russo book but Fox nixed it, then
Alex was going to put it up on prophecysite.com but now that's gone
(unless you'd still like to do something with it Alex?). I need a site
where this can be presented properly, then everyone can enjoy it.

Suggestions?


Chris L.
____
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Group: pota Message: 9995 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: If You Wan't A Sequel..... Wright One
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.html I'm sorry, but huh?

CrystalRoses16@... wrote:

 Well, heck  why not? You could do it as a fanfic. The whole groupe could be
a part of it , and we just see how close . Are crazy we are latter on .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Group: pota Message: 9996 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
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.html Yeah, I'd go see a sequel. Who knows it could what ALIENS is to ALIEN.
Best,
KEN

Jack Krueger wrote:

  All I know is it's going to be tough to pull a sequel together if Burton doesn't do it. The cast said that's the only way they'd return. There has to be SOME continuity because of that ending. But they could do just by getting Wahlberg.  Let's have a show of hands. Who wants a sequel? I do, because it's good for the franchise overall. Plus the next one might be better. Do you want this to be how today's kids know "Apes"?                                                                              - - - Jeff K.      
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Subject: [pota] No Tim Burton Sequel?
 No Tim Burton sequel? I don't see how that report can be true if Tim Roth had said (on televison) that he has had talks with Tim Burton for a sequel. This net rumor holds about the same weight as that monkey love rumor not too long ago. Best,Al

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Group: pota Message: 9997 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
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who?

Haristas@... wrote:
Would anyone here really miss Wahlberg?
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Group: pota Message: 9998 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
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.html I think Burns bought ( or at least wanted to buy) the rights to ALL of the Fox produced Irwin Allen TV shows. Fox lost the rights to the '66 Batman when the 1st Burton movie came out. I had thought they reverted back to DC comics or they wanted to place an embargo on them being released on video at the time to prevent comparisons. Could be wrong though.
Best,
KEN

Jack Krueger wrote:

  I heard somewhere that Fox doesn't own the rights to the "Batman" TV show, just the 1966 movie. But Rory wants a special edition of "Batman Returns". Fox sold the rights to "Lost in Space"... to "Behind the POTA" director Kevin Burns!                                                                             - - - - Jeff  
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Subject: Re: [pota] How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?
 Rory,I would want fox to do a dvd box set of the 1966 Batman series 5 dvd
set.its been off tv a long time.Would you want a set of the series also? Bryan
 

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Group: pota Message: 9999 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: No Tim Burton Sequel?
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As long as it has a few helicopter explosions to kept the masses happy.
Roger Corman was really on to something there.
Best,
KEN

LordTZer0@... wrote:

> << Let's have a show of hands. Who wants a sequel? I do, because it's good
> for the franchise overall. Plus the next one might be better. Do you want
> this to be how today's kids know "Apes"? >>
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> The only way a sequel will work is if they do the next one like the book, and
> not worry so much about FXs and giant sets, but concentrate on the acting and
> the writing. I won't mind the first one not being so great if they use it as
> a springboard to something better.
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Group: pota Message: 10000 From: Michael Whitty Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Re: If You Wan't A Sequel..... Write One
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Ken,
 
I think it should read:
 
 Well, heck, why not? You could do it as a fanfic. The whole group could be a part of it , and we could just see how close or crazy we are later on .
 
ie Write a "script" as a group and then after the movie is released, see if our script is close to what is released.
 
Michael
 
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Subject: Re: [pota] If You Wan't A Sequel..... Wright One

I'm sorry, but huh?

CrystalRoses16@... wrote:

 Well, heck  why not? You could do it as a fanfic. The whole groupe could be
a part of it , and we just see how close . Are crazy we are latter on .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Group: pota Message: 10001 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 8/20/2001
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.htmlIn a message dated 8/19/01 11:22:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:


<< As for me, I'm looking forward to the release of the 1966 "Batman" movie
on
DVD next week, then the next batch of Universal Monster movies the week
after
that.  >>

Off topic but I'm meeting Adam West, Burt Ward, Frank Gorshin, Julie
Newmar,
and Yvonne Craig in October at a con here in Texas. If you are interested
in
getting any autographs of them email me off the list and I'll give you a
guess of what they will cost. I didn't know the DVD was coming out. I'll
have
to get it and maybe have them all sign it. Still no POTA actors coming to
shows. I've asked many times for them but they ignore me. I think I'll ask
Adam West what Roddy McDowall was like to work with since he was the
Bookworm.

Loc





I remember reading an interview with Adam West where all he said about Roddy
McDowall as the Bookworm was that between takes McDowall kept to himself.  
Roddy was rather private in real life and professional on the set.  Hey,
don't forget Maurice Evans was "The Puzzler" on "Batman," too.

The DVD of "Batman - the movie" will have audio commentary by West and Ward,
and a short film about the Batmobile.  I got word from Amazon.com this
morning that it's been shipped.

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Subject: Re: Burton 101
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In a message dated 8/19/01 1:31:17 PM, Haristas@... writes:

<< Yeah, and "Batman Returns" SUCKED BIG TIME!!!! >>

That being said, it was probably the best of the four Bat-films.

Mattman (aka disgruntled Batfan)
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Group: pota Message: 10003 From: MTotsky@aol.com Date: 8/20/2001
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In a message dated 8/19/01 5:52:41 PM, williejoe@... writes:

<< "An American Werewolf in London"? You mean that thing with Rick Baker
makeup directed by the guy who played "Jake's Friend" in "Battle" whose
first film had a John Chambers cameo? Is that the one you mean? >>

You mean the one starring Peter Burke's brother?

Matt
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Group: pota Message: 10004 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/20/2001
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  Linda Harrison played a cheerleader on a "Batman" episode. As for Roddy, I can vouch for him being quiet and workmanlike. I saw him in this small Christmas play in '96 and during breaks the company would walk around, talk, etc. Roddy sat in a corner going over the script. Wiliam (Prez) Windom was in that play too.
 
                                                                            - - - - Jeff
 
 
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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] How's Planet of the Apes doing this weekend?

In a message dated 8/19/01 11:22:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:


<< As for me, I'm looking forward to the release of the 1966 "Batman" movie
on
DVD next week, then the next batch of Universal Monster movies the week
after
that.  >>

Off topic but I'm meeting Adam West, Burt Ward, Frank Gorshin, Julie
Newmar,
and Yvonne Craig in October at a con here in Texas. If you are interested
in
getting any autographs of them email me off the list and I'll give you a
guess of what they will cost. I didn't know the DVD was coming out. I'll
have
to get it and maybe have them all sign it. Still no POTA actors coming to
shows. I've asked many times for them but they ignore me. I think I'll ask
Adam West what Roddy McDowall was like to work with since he was the
Bookworm.

Loc





I remember reading an interview with Adam West where all he said about Roddy
McDowall as the Bookworm was that between takes McDowall kept to himself.  
Roddy was rather private in real life and professional on the set.  Hey,
don't forget Maurice Evans was "The Puzzler" on "Batman," too.

The DVD of "Batman - the movie" will have audio commentary by West and Ward,
and a short film about the Batmobile.  I got word from Amazon.com this
morning that it's been shipped.

-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 10005 From: Jack Krueger Date: 8/20/2001
Subject: Paging Mr. Vernaet
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Dan Vernaet - - -

Please contact me privately. I can't get through on your e-mail address.

Thanks,


Jeff Krueger


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Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 2:35 PM
Subject: [pota] Ape humour


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