My local Target store is clearance pricing their ape figures. 12" Attar is
$13 (they don't have the talking one) and so is Thade. The Hasbro 7"ers are
$7. 'Tis the season, start looking around. Looks like stores are making even
MORE room for Harry Potter.


- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Pics of Series 2 Hasbro Figures - Go Krull !


> Jeff <dotenj@...> wrote:
> > I might just be contrary, but I'm thrilled to see KRULL
>
> Now there's a phrase you didn't hear critics say in the 80s.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> A TURKEY WITH ALL THE DRESSINGS!!!!

> Thanks Fox!
>
> -- RORY
>

You speak wise words Rory.

My main gripe with PotA 2001 was how it all felt so rushed, 10
minutes into the movie we have gone from the Oberon spaceship to Leo
crash landing onto the planet. Then in under 3 minutes of escaping
from his capsule he's already encountered humans and apes alike,
another 5 minutes later he's caged in ape city! All this happening
and not hardly a change of expression or sense of bewilderment from
Mr Wahlberg.

How I yearned for more of a Taylor, Dodge, Landon type scenario
whereby he would at least spend some time exploring his new alien
surroundings, so that we the audience could start to sympathise with
his predicament and share his horror when he does finally encounter
the inhabitants of this world.

But no, it's a 2001 blockbuster so we have to have apes and action
straight from the off, just in case any of the younger members of the
audience start to get bored.

Having been a lifelong apes fan as most of us are I had waited for
this movie for over 10 years, I knew that to expect a truly wonderous
cinematic experience like the original would be expecting too much.
So I was happy to hope for a half decent, well written and
competently acted spectacle of a movie about my favourite subject
matter.

Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy!

Daniel

.htmlhi all

im new to the group and just wanted to introduce myself. i'm charlie. m wife got me the evolution series and ive been hooked ever since. just now getting to see the cartoon series. just curious what everyone's favorite ape  move/tv series is. mine would have to be the first one. not knowing the ending seeing the statue of liberty was truly chilling. cant wait to get the tv seies and burton's version of pota. hope to here from all of you soon

charlie

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Point well taken, Daniel. What surprises me is that it's the longest
"Ape" movie ever but it seems like one of those 90 minute "get to the point"
movies (like "X-Men", which was about 95 minutes). It doesn't feel like a
full meal, but where does the time go? And truly, Wahlberg is the biggest
disappointment, and he's a good actor. That's why it kinda gets my goat that
his name is so emblazoned on the poster and now the DVD. Even Burton didn't
seem that interested in him.


- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <daniel225nma@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 11:08 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Burton's POTA DVD


> > A TURKEY WITH ALL THE DRESSINGS!!!!
>
> > Thanks Fox!
> >
> > -- RORY
> >
>
> You speak wise words Rory.
>
> My main gripe with PotA 2001 was how it all felt so rushed, 10
> minutes into the movie we have gone from the Oberon spaceship to Leo
> crash landing onto the planet. Then in under 3 minutes of escaping
> from his capsule he's already encountered humans and apes alike,
> another 5 minutes later he's caged in ape city! All this happening
> and not hardly a change of expression or sense of bewilderment from
> Mr Wahlberg.
>
> How I yearned for more of a Taylor, Dodge, Landon type scenario
> whereby he would at least spend some time exploring his new alien
> surroundings, so that we the audience could start to sympathise with
> his predicament and share his horror when he does finally encounter
> the inhabitants of this world.
>
> But no, it's a 2001 blockbuster so we have to have apes and action
> straight from the off, just in case any of the younger members of the
> audience start to get bored.
>
> Having been a lifelong apes fan as most of us are I had waited for
> this movie for over 10 years, I knew that to expect a truly wonderous
> cinematic experience like the original would be expecting too much.
> So I was happy to hope for a half decent, well written and
> competently acted spectacle of a movie about my favourite subject
> matter.
>
> Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy!
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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From: charliek22@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 11:12 AM

Subject: [pota] new member

hi all

im new to the group and just wanted to introduce myself. i'm charlie. m wife got me the evolution series and ive been hooked ever since. just now getting to see the cartoon series. just curious what everyone's favorite ape  move/tv series is. mine would have to be the first one. not knowing the ending seeing the statue of liberty was truly chilling. cant wait to get the tv seies and burton's version of pota. hope to here from all of you soon

charlie



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In a message dated 9/15/01 2:44:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
daniel225nma@... writes:

<< Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy! >>

Yep, atleast I'm happy.

-Joe

Welcome to the group, Charlie. ;) Have a nice stay.

Anyway, my favorite Ape (although, some may not agree) movie is the newer
one. I'll probably get yelled at for saying that, but oh well. Next comes
Conquest, the original (yes, the ending is brilliant) Escape, Beneath,
Battle.

As for the TV shows, I'd have to go with the live-action one. It's more
'Apish' if you know what I mean.

-Joe

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I am hoping there are a LOT of deleted scenes that are PLACED in the DVD
where they were cut out and that these give the movie more length and make
more sense overall. I am also hoping that I direct the sequel and the
chances have about the same odds!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2001 6:19
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Burton's POTA DVD

Point well taken, Daniel. What surprises me is that it's the longest
"Ape" movie ever but it seems like one of those 90 minute "get to the point"
movies (like "X-Men", which was about 95 minutes). It doesn't feel like a
full meal, but where does the time go? And truly, Wahlberg is the biggest
disappointment, and he's a good actor. That's why it kinda gets my goat that
his name is so emblazoned on the poster and now the DVD. Even Burton didn't
seem that interested in him.


- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <daniel225nma@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 11:08 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Burton's POTA DVD


> > A TURKEY WITH ALL THE DRESSINGS!!!!
>
> > Thanks Fox!
> >
> > -- RORY
> >
>
> You speak wise words Rory.
>
> My main gripe with PotA 2001 was how it all felt so rushed, 10
> minutes into the movie we have gone from the Oberon spaceship to Leo
> crash landing onto the planet. Then in under 3 minutes of escaping
> from his capsule he's already encountered humans and apes alike,
> another 5 minutes later he's caged in ape city! All this happening
> and not hardly a change of expression or sense of bewilderment from
> Mr Wahlberg.
>
> How I yearned for more of a Taylor, Dodge, Landon type scenario
> whereby he would at least spend some time exploring his new alien
> surroundings, so that we the audience could start to sympathise with
> his predicament and share his horror when he does finally encounter
> the inhabitants of this world.
>
> But no, it's a 2001 blockbuster so we have to have apes and action
> straight from the off, just in case any of the younger members of the
> audience start to get bored.
>
> Having been a lifelong apes fan as most of us are I had waited for
> this movie for over 10 years, I knew that to expect a truly wonderous
> cinematic experience like the original would be expecting too much.
> So I was happy to hope for a half decent, well written and
> competently acted spectacle of a movie about my favourite subject
> matter.
>
> Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy!
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 9/15/01 2:44:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
daniel225nma@... writes:

<< Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy! >>

Yeah, my 13 nephew thought it was really great!
I guess they found their target audience.

Joe,

I doubt that one was directed at you personally.

I am 36 and I liked ALL the ape films a lot more when I was younger. Upon
re-watching them recently (they only came out on video in Australia in
1994!!!!!), I was looking at them from an older, more critical angle and I
was ALMOST embarrassed by some of the films (and quite BORED by Conquest).
I was bitterly disappointed by the Burton effort, but as I have said before
my standards are low because I am a POTA fan and we are used to getting
rushed rubbish. With a budget like that, Burton directing and all that time
to get it right though, there was no excuse this time.

The only film I could get on video in younger years was Beneath in around
1978 and that was in Beta (I still have it!). I ordered the complete set
from a video add in a US magazine, but 3 months later my dad's cheque came
back with a note:

It would cost too much to cash this bank cheque as it is not drawn on a US
bank. You cannot play the tapes anyway because they are recorded on a
different system.

That hurt.

I spent much of my youth scouting toy stores, book stores and other weird
places (like Bike stores would you believe!) for anything apes. We got very
little around here. When I began to collect apes again a few years ago, I
was under the impression that it would be quick and easy because while the
average price of anything POTA was around $100US, there was not a very big
list. WRONG!!!

I think I'll keep this e-mail as my "Welcome to the group" blurb.

Oh yeah, and welcome to the group, Joe and Charlie.

Michael from AUSTRALIA

-----Original Message-----
From: CheeseGOTAS@... [CheeseGOTAS@...]
Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2001 6:35
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Burton's POTA DVD

In a message dated 9/15/01 2:44:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
daniel225nma@... writes:

<< Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy! >>

Yep, atleast I'm happy.

-Joe

And it could have sewed the seeds for them to discover the original/s.

Michael

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Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2001 7:58
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Burton's POTA DVD

In a message dated 9/15/01 2:44:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
daniel225nma@... writes:

<< Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy! >>

Yeah, my 13 nephew thought it was really great!
I guess they found their target audience.

.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 1:58:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

 Happy Birthday to Oliver Stone, who turns 55 today. He was always my favorite choice to do the new movie. The script that was developed wasn't the greatest but I think he knew that too. If he had concentrated on it it might have made a good film. "Cinefantastique" talks to him about it in the current issue.

                                                                            - - - - Jeff



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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 3:34:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

 My local Target store is clearance pricing their ape figures. 12" Attar is
$13 (they don't have the talking one) and so is Thade. The Hasbro 7"ers are
$7. 'Tis the season, start looking around. Looks like stores are making even
MORE room for Harry Potter.

                                                                           
- - - - Jeff

I wonder where you go to find out if the new APES toys were a success or a bomb.  My sense is they bombed.

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 3:44:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, daniel225nma@... writes:

Having been a lifelong apes fan as most of us are I had waited for
this movie for over 10 years, I knew that to expect a truly wonderous
cinematic experience like the original would be expecting too much.
So I was happy to hope for a half decent, well written and
competently acted spectacle of a movie about my favourite subject
matter.

Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy!

Daniel

     

Well, I've said more than enough on my disappointment.  Hollywood is just a cold, corporate town that now turns out cold, corporate product.   Really good films these day come from other places.

-- Rory


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.html In a message dated 9/15/01 3:34:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

 My local Target store is clearance pricing their ape figures. 12" Attar is
$13 (they don't have the talking one) and so is Thade. The Hasbro 7"ers are
$7. 'Tis the season, start looking around. Looks like stores are making even
MORE room for Harry Potter.

                                                                           
- - - - Jeff

I wonder where you go to find out if the new APES toys were a success or a bomb.  My sense is they bombed.

-- Rory

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Having been a lifelong apes fan as most of us are I had waited for
this movie for over 10 years, I knew that to expect a truly wonderous
cinematic experience like the original would be expecting too much.
So I was happy to hope for a half decent, well written and
competently acted spectacle of a movie about my favourite subject
matter.

Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy!

Daniel

     

Well, I've said more than enough on my disappointment.  Hollywood is just a cold, corporate town that now turns out cold, corporate product.   Really good films these day come from other places.

-- Rory


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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 3:46:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, charliek22@... writes:

hi all

im new to the group and just wanted to introduce myself. i'm charlie. m wife got me the evolution series and ive been hooked ever since. just now getting to see the cartoon series. just curious what everyone's favorite ape  move/tv series is. mine would have to be the first one. not knowing the ending seeing the statue of liberty was truly chilling. cant wait to get the tv seies and burton's version of pota. hope to here from all of you soon

Hey Charlie. . . . How did you manage NOT to know the ending of PLANET when it's right there on the cover?

Anyway, PLANET is my favorite because IT'S THE BEST, OF COURSE!!!   Also, I saw it when it first came out in '68 (when I was eight), and so it's my all-time favorite film.

I would rate the films this way. . . .

1. PLANET
2. ESCAPE
3. BENEATH
4. CONQUEST
5. BATTLE
6. The TV Show
7. The cartoon series

I think Boulle's novel is better than the original movie, and if you've never read it, well I suggest you do.

As for the new movie. . . only saw it once, trying to forget, will probably look at it again on DVD -- RIGHT AFTER I WATCH THE ORIGINAL AGAIN!

Now that Alex is bored to death reading this, I'll close.

-- Rory


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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 6:17:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

The only film I could get on video in younger years was Beneath in around
1978 and that was in Beta (I still have it!).  I ordered the complete set
from a video add in a US magazine, but 3 months later my dad's cheque came
back with a note:

It would cost too much to cash this bank cheque as it is not drawn on a US
bank.  You cannot play the tapes anyway because they are recorded on a
different system.

That hurt.

I spent much of my youth scouting toy stores, book stores and other weird
places (like Bike stores would you believe!) for anything apes.  We got very
little around here.  When I began to collect apes again a few years ago, I
was under the impression that it would be quick and easy because while the
average price of anything POTA was around $100US, there was not a very big
list.  WRONG!!!



Michael from AUSTRALIA

Jesus, Whitty!!  I never knew you had such a rough life!  You poor thing!

-- Rory


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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 6:25:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

Do they REALLY think that POTA would not have made more had they given it a good script and more believability?

Michael



The "suits" in the upper offices simply wouldn't know a good script if it took a flying f*** at them.   And they don't know a poor one in the same way.

We, of course, end up getting royally f***ed!!!     Except Alex, who I guess like taking it up. . . . OH, NEVER MIND!

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 7:33:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Nuke the son of a bitches.

Al



Please knock off this 'nuke' business, Alex.  Nobody with any brains wants to nuke anyone.

-- Rory

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Nuke the son of a bitches.

Al



Please knock off this 'nuke' business, Alex.  Nobody with any brains wants to nuke anyone.

-- Rory

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Nuke the son of a bitches.

Al



Please knock off this 'nuke' business, Alex.  Nobody with any brains wants to nuke anyone.

-- Rory

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.html In a message dated 9/15/01 6:17:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

The only film I could get on video in younger years was Beneath in around
1978 and that was in Beta (I still have it!).  I ordered the complete set
from a video add in a US magazine, but 3 months later my dad's cheque came
back with a note:

It would cost too much to cash this bank cheque as it is not drawn on a US
bank.  You cannot play the tapes anyway because they are recorded on a
different system.

That hurt.

I spent much of my youth scouting toy stores, book stores and other weird
places (like Bike stores would you believe!) for anything apes.  We got very
little around here.  When I began to collect apes again a few years ago, I
was under the impression that it would be quick and easy because while the
average price of anything POTA was around $100US, there was not a very big
list.  WRONG!!!



Michael from AUSTRALIA

Jesus, Whitty!!  I never knew you had such a rough life!  You poor thing!

-- Rory


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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:15 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] 55 candles

In a message dated 9/15/01 1:58:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

 Happy Birthday to Oliver Stone, who turns 55 today. He was always my favorite choice to do the new movie. The script that was developed wasn't the greatest but I think he knew that too. If he had concentrated on it it might have made a good film. "Cinefantastique" talks to him about it in the current issue.

                                                                            - - - - Jeff

Oliver Stone is a major whack-job.   Read Jane Hamsher's "Killer Instinct" some time.  For me, Oliver Stone will always be "that guy who made 'The Hand.'"   

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:16 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] We have clearance

In a message dated 9/15/01 3:34:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

 My local Target store is clearance pricing their ape figures. 12" Attar is
$13 (they don't have the talking one) and so is Thade. The Hasbro 7"ers are
$7. 'Tis the season, start looking around. Looks like stores are making even
MORE room for Harry Potter.

                                                                           
- - - - Jeff

I wonder where you go to find out if the new APES toys were a success or a bomb.  My sense is they bombed.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:16 PM

Subject: [pota] Burton's POTA DVD

So that's why a few Aussie films are becoming successful.

 

Keep it up Hollywood!

 

Do they REALLY think that POTA would not have made more had they given it a good script and more believability?

 

Michael

 

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From: Haristas@... [mailto:Haristas@...]
Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2001 8:21
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Burton's POTA DVD

In a message dated 9/15/01 3:44:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, daniel225nma@... writes:

Having been a lifelong apes fan as most of us are I had waited for
this movie for over 10 years, I knew that to expect a truly wonderous
cinematic experience like the original would be expecting too much.
So I was happy to hope for a half decent, well written and
competently acted spectacle of a movie about my favourite subject
matter.

Oh well, nevermind. At least the kids are happy!

Daniel

     

Well, I've said more than enough on my disappointment.  Hollywood is just a cold, corporate town that now turns out cold, corporate product.   Really good films these day come from other places.

-- Rory


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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:54 PM

Subject: [pota] Burton's POTA DVD

I second the motion.

 

The battle will be long, hard and drawn.

 

Not just nuke 'em and celebrate.

 

Wipe 'em out for sure, but watch those nukes.

 

Michael

 

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Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2001 9:52
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Burton's POTA DVD

In a message dated 9/15/01 7:33:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Nuke the son of a bitches.

Al

Please knock off this 'nuke' business, Alex.  Nobody with any brains wants to nuke anyone.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:47 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Burton's POTA DVD

Please knock off this 'nuke' business, Alex.  Nobody with any brains wants to nuke anyone.

All I'm doing is expressing my opinion as anyone else here.

And while many here always defend thier thoughts as 'opinions', why is it that I can't? Well you don't have to worry about my opinions any longer Rory.

 

But one final note:

Not opinion but fact, when it comes to the success of the POTA revisit.

I win, you lose.

Get over it.

 

Best.

Alex

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:47 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Burton's POTA DVD

Please knock off this 'nuke' business, Alex.  Nobody with any brains wants to nuke anyone.

All I'm doing is expressing my opinion as anyone else here.

And while many here always defend thier thoughts as 'opinions', why is it that I can't? Well you don't have to worry about my opinions any longer Rory.

 

But one final note:

Not opinion but fact, when it comes to the success of the POTA revisit.

I win, you lose.

Get over it.

 

Best.

Alex

 

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Hey, sorry for the off-topic post, but I just watched "Memento" on DVD last
night and wondered what others here thought of it. I liked it, but was a bit
confused by the ending. What exactly was going on? Feel free to email me
privately or provide spoiler space for those who haven't seen this film yet.

Best,

Matt

In a message dated 9/15/01 7:07:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< It sure was tough on the POTA front! >>

A fireman on TV did mention that it looked like Planet of the Apes down there.
I'm sure he meant Beneath the Planet of the Apes, but of course we get the
reference.

In a message dated 9/15/01 8:14:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Clearance makes the world go round. >>

The Apes stuff at my Sun Coast wasn't on sale.
I don't know why, but I bought the logo Hat anyway.

.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/2001 5:29:59 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I think Boulle's novel is better than the original movie, and if you've never read it, well I suggest you do.

reading it now. between watching the movies and the cartoons lol. not sure how i didnt know the ending by the box must've not registered i was VERY tired the day jennifer got the box set for me

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In a message dated 9/15/01 8:19:46 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Fact 2: Tim Burton doesn't know a good script from a Bazooka Joe strip >>

I heard something funny in film class last week. The Prof. was talking about
reading the thing about Burton stealing the ending for the new Apes from
Kevin Smith's comic book. And Burton responding that he didn't read comic
books. The reply was...Now we know what happened to Batman.

It was on sale at Suncoast for about two weeks, now it's not. The sale is
at Target now. I'm a sale hopper (but I'll probably never buy the 12"
Wahlberg even if it drops to $1! ). I like the 12" Attar (not the talking
one). At first I hated the fur sticking out all over but I've looked beyond
it. Now I just consider it a Russian ape. I love the armor on it. Has
anyone seen any pictures of the upcoming 12" Thade. Rory, please forgive me!

- -
- - Jeff

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From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] We have clearance


> In a message dated 9/15/01 8:14:10 PM Central Daylight Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << Clearance makes the world go round. >>
>
> The Apes stuff at my Sun Coast wasn't on sale.
> I don't know why, but I bought the logo Hat anyway.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Definitely put Spoiler on the post.
I've been wanting to see that one.
Don't spoil it for me.

At the risk of sounding insensitive I thought those pictures with the
Statue of Liberty were pretty ironic.

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To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Tough Life


> In a message dated 9/15/01 7:07:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
> << It sure was tough on the POTA front! >>
>
> A fireman on TV did mention that it looked like Planet of the Apes down
there.
> I'm sure he meant Beneath the Planet of the Apes, but of course we get the
> reference.
>
>
>
>
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>

In a message dated 9/15/01 10:39:17 PM, charliek22@... writes:

<< reading it now. between watching the movies and the cartoons lol. not sure
how i didnt know the ending by the box must've not registered i was VERY
tired the day jennifer got the box set for me >>

Man, what I wouldn't give to experience the feeling of watching the original
POTA for the first time and not knowing the ending.

Welcome Charlie,

Matt

In a message dated 9/15/01 5:17:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Oh yeah, and welcome to the group, Joe and Charlie. >>

I think I joined a while ago, but thanks anyway. ;)

-Joe

In a message dated 9/15/01 5:17:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Oh yeah, and welcome to the group, Joe and Charlie. >>

I think I joined a while ago, but thanks anyway. ;)

-Joe

In a message dated 9/15/01 9:38:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

<< The Apes stuff at my Sun Coast wasn't on sale. >>

Hmm, none of the APES stuff was on sale here, either, but the poster was!
25% off, so that made it 6 dollars or something. It hangs over my bed now.
:)

-Joe

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 9:44:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, prophecysite@... writes:

Please knock off this 'nuke' business, Alex.  Nobody with any brains wants to nuke anyone.

All I'm doing is expressing my opinion as anyone else here.

And while many here always defend thier thoughts as 'opinions', why is it that I can't? Well you don't have to worry about my opinions any longer Rory.

But one final note:
Not opinion but fact, when it comes to the success of the POTA revisit.
I win, you lose.
Get over it.

Best.
Alex


Alex, do you know you're a long lost baron?   Yeah!!   Baron of Gray Matter.

Heheheheh!

Best,
Rory

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Hey, sorry for the off-topic post, but I just watched "Memento" on DVD last
night and wondered what others here thought of it. I liked it, but was a bit
confused by the ending. What exactly was going on? Feel free to email me
privately or provide spoiler space for those who haven't seen this film yet.

Best,

Matt

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 10:46:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

 It was on sale at Suncoast for about two weeks, now it's not. The sale is
at Target now. I'm a sale hopper (but I'll probably never buy the 12"
Wahlberg even if it drops to $1! ). I like the 12" Attar (not the talking
one). At first I hated the fur sticking out all over but I've looked beyond
it. Now I just consider it a Russian ape.  I love the armor on it. Has
anyone seen any pictures of the upcoming 12" Thade. Rory, please forgive me!

                                                                        - -
- - Jeff

Jeff, is there a soul in there?!!!!

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 10:49:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Definitely put Spoiler on the post.
I've been wanting to see that one.
Don't spoil it for me.

I can't help it, I've got to spoil it for you -- IT STINKS!!!   There, I just saved you the bother.

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/15/01 10:54:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@... writes:

<< reading it now. between watching the movies and the cartoons lol. not sure
how i didnt know the ending by the box must've not registered i was VERY
tired the day jennifer got the box set for me >>

Man, what I wouldn't give to experience the feeling of watching the original
POTA for the first time and not knowing the ending.

Welcome Charlie,

Matt

Sometimes I wish I could get amnesia just so I could see PLANET again and not know what's going to happen.   I hear a sharp blow to the head can cause amnesia.  Hey Alex, want to help me out here?  I'm just up I-95, in Ft. Lauderdale.

-- Rory (hehehe)<.html

In a message dated 9/15/01 11:21:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:

<< I hear a sharp blow to the head can cause
amnesia. >>

Or, you know that salad drawer in your refrigerator that always gets dirty?
You should clean that out with some bleach. Throw some some ammonia in to
kill the stench - It might knock you out. When you wake up, you might forget
some things.

-Joe

For those who want to experience the original for the first time, there's
always the Landon School of Film Appreciation taught by Dr. Zauis. It'll
just leave a little scar, hardly noticeable.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] new member


>
> In a message dated 9/15/01 10:39:17 PM, charliek22@... writes:
>
> << reading it now. between watching the movies and the cartoons lol. not
sure
> how i didnt know the ending by the box must've not registered i was VERY
> tired the day jennifer got the box set for me >>
>
> Man, what I wouldn't give to experience the feeling of watching the
original
> POTA for the first time and not knowing the ending.
>
> Welcome Charlie,
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

The Suncoast thing wasn't really a clearance thing. I'll let the group
know when they REALLY have the clearance (half off). Should be around "Harry
Potter"/"Lord of the Rings" time.

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To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] We have clearance


> In a message dated 9/15/01 9:38:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
> LordTZer0@... writes:
>
> << The Apes stuff at my Sun Coast wasn't on sale. >>
>
> Hmm, none of the APES stuff was on sale here, either, but the poster was!
> 25% off, so that made it 6 dollars or something. It hangs over my bed
now.
> :)
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
>
>
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>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Kay53531@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:50 PM

Subject: [pota] Are the new planet apes toys a bust?

They dont seem to be selling at toys r us still alot on the shelves.kids just past buy them.Think the ending was too confusing for some kids?Bryan

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.htmljust wondering what the besy pota website is in everyone's opinion. the ifficial one left much to be desired in my opinion. i'm looking for one with TONS of info on all things ape. the films tv series cartoons documentary and burton film. also info on all the merchandise would be great too!

thanks

charlie<.html

Terry's is good International Fan Club. And Brian's Apemania.
And I heard that Spleeny's was updated. And of course Alex's
As well as the Forbidden Zone. Have I missed any good ones gang?
Maybe we should post a links page for the newbies.

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Maybe we should post a links page for the newbies.

please do i'd love to check these sites out

charlie

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>From: charliek22@...
>Subject: websites
>just wondering what the besy pota website is in everyone's opinion. the
>ifficial one left much to be desired in my opinion. i'm looking for one with
>TONS of info on all things ape. the films tv series cartoons documentary and
>burton film. also info on all the merchandise would be great too!

Terry's International POTA Fan Club site is an excellent storehouse of
information. Check it out at:
http://www.dlcwest.com/~comicsape/apes.htm

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:34 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA Numbers So Far.

From:

http://www.worldwideboxoffice.com/index.cgi?order=worldwide&start=1900&finish=2001&keyword=planet+of+the+apes

RANK  DOMESTIC  OVERSEAS     WORLD  "planet of the apes" TITLES (1900-2001)

0081  $  175.0  $  143.7  $  318.7  Planet of the Apes (2001)

Final world release: End of October.

Best,

?

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----- Original Message -----

From: charliek22@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 1:16 AM

Subject: [pota] websites

just wondering what the besy pota website is in everyone's opinion. the ifficial one left much to be desired in my opinion. i'm looking for one with TONS of info on all things ape. the films tv series cartoons documentary and burton film. also info on all the merchandise would be great too!

thanks

charlie

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:01 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Numbers So Far.

Why should we trust them? They didn't even get the release date right. Opened July 29th?

 

                                                                            - - - - Jeff

 

 

Perhaps just another opinion.

 

Best,

? :o)

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/16/01 10:58:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

  Come on, Alex. You can say your name. Maybe you can get "e-mail blocking" for Rory.

                                                                        - - - Jeff


You guys really misunderstand me.  I don't hate Alex, I just don't agree with him.  AND I'm just goofing on him -- he really gives me lots to make fun of.  But, Alex, really. . . . it's just all a goof!

But, seriously, we don't really want to nuke anybody -- it would only make things worse.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:24 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Numbers So Far.

You guys really misunderstand me.  I don't hate Alex, I just don't agree with him.  AND I'm just goofing on him -- he really gives me lots to make fun of.  But, Alex, really. . . . it's just all a goof!

But, seriously, we don't really want to nuke anybody -- it would only make things worse.

-- Rory

 

 

I fully agree, no one wants to nuke anybody. It's just the rage of the moment.

But this Alex does seem like one interesting fellow.

 

Best,

The new guy.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Krueger

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA Numbers So Far.

   Whoever you are, you must know Alex pretty well, since you're using his e-mail address. Or did you MURDER him?

 

 What's with the legs on the new action figures? Would it have cost them that much more to put knee joints on so Thade could stand up off his horse?

 

                                                                         - - - - Jeff

 

 

 

                                                                         

----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:24 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Numbers So Far.

You guys really misunderstand me.  I don't hate Alex, I just don't agree with him.  AND I'm just goofing on him -- he really gives me lots to make fun of.  But, Alex, really. . . . it's just all a goof!

But, seriously, we don't really want to nuke anybody -- it would only make things worse.

-- Rory

 

 

I fully agree, no one wants to nuke anybody. It's just the rage of the moment.

But this Alex does seem like one interesting fellow.

 

Best,

The new guy.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:58 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Numbers So Far.

Whoever you are, you must know Alex pretty well, since you're using his e-mail address. Or did you MURDER him?

 

 

Hey everybody!

Just got back from my trip. Although it seems someone broke into my house and used my computer, and I received a bomb threat from Rory, everything here seems to be fine. Pretty strange uh?

 

You do believe me don't you?

 

Well anyway it's good to be back.

 

Best.

Al

 

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How come your wife bought you the "Evolution" box set in the first place? That seems like a big expenditure for movies you knew nothing about


i remembered that i liked the series when i was a kid. and said id like to see the movies sometime. she wanted to surprise me for our anniversary with something id never expect. needless to say im glad she did :-)

charlie<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: charliek22@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:10 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] websites

How come your wife bought you the "Evolution" box set in the first place? That seems like a big expenditure for movies you knew nothing about


i remembered that i liked the series when i was a kid. and said id like to see the movies sometime. she wanted to surprise me for our anniversary with something id never expect. needless to say im glad she did :-)

charlie

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In a message dated 9/16/01 11:08:15 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Anyone who has items to add, I'd like to do a listing of Burton "Ape"
collectibles. >>

Yeah, I just got the Apes Vinyl last night for 7 dollars! But, then again,
I don't know if you care about the soundtrack or not.

-Joe

In a message dated 9/16/01 10:10:58 AM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:

<< But, seriously, we don't really want to nuke anybody -- it would only make
things worse.>>

That's right! Some of them might live like in just like in Japan. What you
want to do is send in the elite Spec War guys and slit their throats! Then
there's nothing they can do.
Sorry, a little tribute there to Juan Zambrauno.

In a message dated 9/16/01 11:08:33 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Hey, where have those "Apes" Band-Aids been seen? >>

You won't find them everywhere yet like JP III and Star Wars, Jar Jar
bandages. I found them at Walmart. They were on the top shelf, so if
someone has grabbed the first 2 or 3 and they haven't restocked, you can't
see them but they're back there.

Then I could watch Burton's version again and enjoy it!!!!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2001 14:48
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] new member

For those who want to experience the original for the first time, there's
always the Landon School of Film Appreciation taught by Dr. Zauis. It'll
just leave a little scar, hardly noticeable.

.html They dont seem to be selling at toys r us still alot on the shelves.kids just past buy them.Think the ending was too confusing for some kids?Bryan

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.html In a message dated 9/15/01 10:54:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@... writes:

<< reading it now. between watching the movies and the cartoons lol. not sure
how i didnt know the ending by the box must've not registered i was VERY
tired the day jennifer got the box set for me >>

Man, what I wouldn't give to experience the feeling of watching the original
POTA for the first time and not knowing the ending.

Welcome Charlie,

Matt

Sometimes I wish I could get amnesia just so I could see PLANET again and not know what's going to happen.   I hear a sharp blow to the head can cause amnesia.  Hey Alex, want to help me out here?  I'm just up I-95, in Ft. Lauderdale.

-- Rory (hehehe)

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I know you did Joe, but I don't remember officially welcoming you.

We are a VERY traditional group, you know!!!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: CheeseGOTAS@... [CheeseGOTAS@...]
Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2001 13:22
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Welcome

In a message dated 9/15/01 5:17:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Oh yeah, and welcome to the group, Joe and Charlie. >>

I think I joined a while ago, but thanks anyway. ;)

-Joe

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Are you saying there's a vinyl edition of the Elfman soundtrack or do you
mean the original?

- -
- Jeff

----- Original Message -----
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To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Assignment for the day


> In a message dated 9/16/01 11:08:15 AM Central Daylight Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << Anyone who has items to add, I'd like to do a listing of Burton "Ape"
> collectibles. >>
>
> Yeah, I just got the Apes Vinyl last night for 7 dollars! But, then
again,
> I don't know if you care about the soundtrack or not.
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/16/2001 1:11:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, williejoe@... writes:

 How long ago was it you first watched the movies? How'd you get the cartoon episodes so fast?                            - - - Jeff

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charlie here im new to the group as well. welcome.

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/17/2001 2:57:45 AM US Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

What's everyone's favorite "Ape" movie?

mine would be the first one. but conquest and battle are close seconds

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From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 11:27 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] New member

Hi Jeff.

 

Are you a fan/collector?

 

Where do you live?

 

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Sent: Monday, 17 September 2001 9:41
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] New member

Hi. My name is Jeff and I want to introduce myself.

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:43 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] New member

In a message dated 9/17/2001 2:57:45 AM US Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

What's everyone's favorite "Ape" movie?

mine would be the first one. but conquest and battle are close seconds

charlie

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----- Original Message -----

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:43 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] New member

In a message dated 9/17/2001 2:57:45 AM US Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

What's everyone's favorite "Ape" movie?

mine would be the first one. but conquest and battle are close seconds

charlie

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/17/01 2:05:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

 Back on February 8 1968 a little movie called "Planet of the Apes" premiered. Since then the big sci-fi movies have become too important to release on such a insignificant day. Instead we get them during the peak months of summer and Christmas, when kids are out of school. Yet, the remake of "Rollerball" (postponed from August) and the remake of "The Time Machine", originally supposed to come out at Christmas, are now scheduled for February 8 2002, POTA's 34rth anniversary. Who'da thunk it?

I'm sorry to hear that "The Time Machine" now won't be out until Feb. 8th.  I'm kind of looking forward to this one.  I know that the "Rollerball" remake got pushed back because it's supposed to be REALLY BAD!  I hope that the reason for the postponement of "T.T.M." is because the competition during December was too great.

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Today, Sept. 17 2001, would have been Roddy McDowall's 73rd birthday.

Happy Birthday, Roddy.   (Boy, three years sure goes by fast.)

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 11:27 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] New member

Hi Jeff.

 

Are you a fan/collector?

 

Where do you live?

 

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From: veetus@... [mailto:veetus@...]
Sent: Monday, 17 September 2001 9:41
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] New member

Hi. My name is Jeff and I want to introduce myself.

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From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:19 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Feb. 8 revisited

In a message dated 9/17/01 2:05:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

 Back on February 8 1968 a little movie called "Planet of the Apes" premiered. Since then the big sci-fi movies have become too important to release on such a insignificant day. Instead we get them during the peak months of summer and Christmas, when kids are out of school. Yet, the remake of "Rollerball" (postponed from August) and the remake of "The Time Machine", originally supposed to come out at Christmas, are now scheduled for February 8 2002, POTA's 34rth anniversary. Who'da thunk it?

I'm sorry to hear that "The Time Machine" now won't be out until Feb. 8th.  I'm kind of looking forward to this one.  I know that the "Rollerball" remake got pushed back because it's supposed to be REALLY BAD!  I hope that the reason for the postponement of "T.T.M." is because the competition during December was too great.

-- Rory

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:51 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] New member

  Hi Michael. I like to read the e-mails but I'm quiet. Yes, I am a fan/collector. I live in California.

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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 11:27 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] New member

Hi Jeff.

 

Are you a fan/collector?

 

Where do you live?

 

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Sent: Monday, 17 September 2001 9:41
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] New member

Hi. My name is Jeff and I want to introduce myself.

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In a message dated 9/16/01 10:57:15 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Yeah, and the toy buying kids are under 15 or fans over 30. Missed the
market. >>

*Cough* 15 and under.

-Joe

In a message dated 9/16/01 11:30:29 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< I know you did Joe, but I don't remember officially welcoming you.

We are a VERY traditional group, you know!!! >>

Heh, I see. Well, thanks a lot. ;)

-Joe