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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:15 AM

Subject: [pota] Jeff and the Tennis.

Well, all the girls in Australia think Jeff is just right (but the girls over here have lower standards).

 

How's the tennis going?

 

Michael

 

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From: Haristas@... [mailto:Haristas@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 September 2001 10:41
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] The POTA TV series

This is my offical opinion of the TV series -- for any of you that care.

I don't think the TV show was that good.  It was too expensive and
complicated to do every week, and because of that the makeup suffered and
often looked bad.  The scripts were also just not as good as they could be.

But, I'm being kind because now the show is just nostalgia.  Roddy is gone
and all that.  It seems sort of cruel to beat up on the TV show too much now.
 It is what it is.  At least they tried.  Too bad it wasn't better and lasted
longer, but then that's what some girls in LA say about Jeff Krueger, so
there.

The TV show. . . . coming to DVD soon.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 7:20 PM

Subject: [pota] Tape Information

I've just posted the tape information on the site for those interested.

And will be offering to all overseas an even trade for overseas coverages.

Hopefuly we can all get our hands on those POTA Japanese commercials.

Hopefuly anyway.

 

www.calima5021.com/latest-news.htm

 

Well I'm off to la la land.

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 7:20 PM

Subject: [pota] Tape Information

I've just posted the tape information on the site for those interested.

And will be offering to all overseas an even trade for overseas coverages.

Hopefuly we can all get our hands on those POTA Japanese commercials.

Hopefuly anyway.

 

www.calima5021.com/latest-news.htm

 

Well I'm off to la la land.

Best.

Al

 

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/10/01 9:38:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Mark Wahlberg's new flick "Rock Star" debuted at #3 with 6.18 million. So
who decided he was a big star who should get his name above the title on
his previous picture? Judging from the opening weekend, "Apes" was the star.

                                                                           
  - - - - Jeff



Of course it was.  The gimmick of talking APES is what's been so popular over
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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:31 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: #1

Oh, I didn't realize Tim Roth was in "The Musketeer". That was #1 this weekend. Thade bests Leo, just like in "Apes".

 

                                                                            - - - Jeff

 

I had a feeling that was going to happen. Rock and Roll movies never do too good at the box office. I remember while KISS was selling out stadiums world wide, the movie didn't do too good at all at the box office. That movie where those kids wanted to go to a KISS concert. I forget the name. Which only goes to show.

 

Rock Star was one bad choice for a movie. No matter who was the director.

Tim Roth Rules the Planet again.

 

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:12 AM

Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

Bozo the clown in Space comes out October 16th I believe.

Just for those who might be interested in the Phantom Menace DVD release.

Most likely I'll endup buying it. Only because it's part of the original trilogy. So I might as well.

 

Lucas is directing Episode II?

Oh lord, Episode II: JAR JAR BINKS STRIKES BACK.

 

Thank God for diectors like Tim Burton.

For God knows it could have been worst. CGI versions of Apes.

 

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:21 PM

Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

Gotta say I preferred Phantom Menace as a Star Wars movie to POTA 2001.

 

I have heard Star Wars 2 - the Clone Wars (??) is back on track with the purists (how the hell they would know, beats me!!!!).

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 2:12
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

Bozo the clown in Space comes out October 16th I believe.

Just for those who might be interested in the Phantom Menace DVD release.

Most likely I'll endup buying it. Only because it's part of the original trilogy. So I might as well.

 

Lucas is directing Episode II?

Oh lord, Episode II: JAR JAR BINKS STRIKES BACK.

 

Thank God for diectors like Tim Burton.

For God knows it could have been worst. CGI versions of Apes.

 

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:21 PM

Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

Gotta say I preferred Phantom Menace as a Star Wars movie to POTA 2001.

 

I have heard Star Wars 2 - the Clone Wars (??) is back on track with the purists (how the hell they would know, beats me!!!!).

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 2:12
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

Bozo the clown in Space comes out October 16th I believe.

Just for those who might be interested in the Phantom Menace DVD release.

Most likely I'll endup buying it. Only because it's part of the original trilogy. So I might as well.

 

Lucas is directing Episode II?

Oh lord, Episode II: JAR JAR BINKS STRIKES BACK.

 

Thank God for diectors like Tim Burton.

For God knows it could have been worst. CGI versions of Apes.

 

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Krueger

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:48 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Bozo in Space

  The comparison is kinda unfair because the original "Star Wars" is more in line with what blockbusters try to be these days, popcorn entertainment. But they don't make thoughtful blockbusters like the "Apes". So I don't think "Phantom Menace" had as high to climb.

 

                                                                        - - - - Jeff

 

 

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From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:21 PM

Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

Gotta say I preferred Phantom Menace as a Star Wars movie to POTA 2001.

 

I have heard Star Wars 2 - the Clone Wars (??) is back on track with the purists (how the hell they would know, beats me!!!!).

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 2:12
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

Bozo the clown in Space comes out October 16th I believe.

Just for those who might be interested in the Phantom Menace DVD release.

Most likely I'll endup buying it. Only because it's part of the original trilogy. So I might as well.

 

Lucas is directing Episode II?

Oh lord, Episode II: JAR JAR BINKS STRIKES BACK.

 

Thank God for diectors like Tim Burton.

For God knows it could have been worst. CGI versions of Apes.

 

Best.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Krueger

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:02 PM

Subject: [pota] "Apes" DVD

  According to "Variety", the DVD of the new "Apes" is coming out 2 days before Christmas (Dec. 23?) . It'll have more than 13 hours of bonus stuff with 2 discs for $30. Included will be an interactive thingie where you can stop the movie to watch behind -the- scenes (like the "Matrix" DVD). Fox is spending $10 million to advertise it. But isn't 2 days kinda short notice?

 

 On movieheadlines.net Tim Roth reiterates (per TV Guide) that he thinks Burton will come around to a sequel.

 

                                                                                - - - - Jeff

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Krueger

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:48 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Bozo in Space

  The comparison is kinda unfair because the original "Star Wars" is more in line with what blockbusters try to be these days, popcorn entertainment. But they don't make thoughtful blockbusters like the "Apes". So I don't think "Phantom Menace" had as high to climb.

 

                                                                        - - - - Jeff

 

 

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From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:21 PM

Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

Gotta say I preferred Phantom Menace as a Star Wars movie to POTA 2001.

 

I have heard Star Wars 2 - the Clone Wars (??) is back on track with the purists (how the hell they would know, beats me!!!!).

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 2:12
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

Bozo the clown in Space comes out October 16th I believe.

Just for those who might be interested in the Phantom Menace DVD release.

Most likely I'll endup buying it. Only because it's part of the original trilogy. So I might as well.

 

Lucas is directing Episode II?

Oh lord, Episode II: JAR JAR BINKS STRIKES BACK.

 

Thank God for diectors like Tim Burton.

For God knows it could have been worst. CGI versions of Apes.

 

Best.

Al

 

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I'm actually looking forward to that, if just to hear the "Star Wars" theme on DVD. There's lots of stuff in that movie I liked. I was hoping Lucas would do an actual commentary and "strike back" at the criticisms but it's just previous comments edited together. But definitely worth the price of admission.    But don't forget, Alex, "Terminator" comes out first. And I just got my tax refund TODAY. Whooopie!                                                                                - - - - Jeff

 

 

Yeah, if it's one thing I liked about Phantom Menace, it was the special effects. The depth of the film wasn't really there, sort of like Burton's POTA. Although I must admit I did enjoy Burton's POTA over Phantom Menace. While the special effects were great in Phantom Menace, for me it just had too much fantasy. Reminded me of Return of the Jedi. First two, SW1 and SW2 were the ones I enjoyed the most.

 

Can't wait to see that Terminator Special Edition though!

POTA in December 23rd? Geeez. Well, better late than never I guess.

 

Best.

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In a message dated 9/10/01 7:41:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< But don't forget, Alex, "Terminator" comes out first. And I just got my
tax refund TODAY. Whooopie! >>

So there are some Republican Apes fans.

In a message dated 9/10/01 7:44:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< (but he would lose face if he got rid of Jar Jar) >>

He could kill him off.
Make it a real tear jerker.
Except for those of us cheering.

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Jack Krueger wrote:

  I forgot the best part. Since Burton doesn't want the job, audio commentary chores have been handed to those famed dueling critics, Alex and Rory. Here's a sample:           RORY: Come on! The end credits of the cartoon show are better than this scene.            ALEX: No, wait, check this out. That's cool! Thade doesn't take "No" for an answer! He he he he! Rory and Alex have generously agreed to donate their fees to buy Tim Burton something nice for Christmas. Way to go, guys!                                                                 - - - - Jeff  

----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Krueger

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:02 PM

Subject: [pota] "Apes" DVD

   According to "Variety", the DVD of the new "Apes" is coming out 2 days before Christmas (Dec. 23?) . It'll have more than 13 hours of bonus stuff with 2 discs for $30. Included will be an interactive thingie where you can stop the movie to watch behind -the- scenes (like the "Matrix" DVD). Fox is spending $10 million to advertise it. But isn't 2 days kinda short notice?  On movieheadlines.net Tim Roth reiterates (per TV Guide) that he thinks Burton will come around to a sequel.                                                                                 - - - - Jeff  

----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Krueger

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 5:48 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Bozo in Space

   The comparison is kinda unfair because the original "Star Wars" is more in line with what blockbusters try to be these days, popcorn entertainment. But they don't make thoughtful blockbusters like the "Apes". So I don't think "Phantom Menace" had as high to climb.                                                                         - - - - Jeff  

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:21 PM

Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space

 Gotta say I preferred Phantom Menace as a Star Wars movie to POTA 2001.I have heard Star Wars 2 - the Clone Wars (??) is back on track with the purists (how the hell they would know, beats me!!!!).Michael 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2001 2:12
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Bozo in Space
 

Bozo the clown in Space comes out October 16th I believe.Just for those who might be interested in the Phantom Menace DVD release.Most likely I'll endup buying it. Only because it's part of the original trilogy. So I might as well. Lucas is directing Episode II?Oh lord, Episode II: JAR JAR BINKS STRIKES BACK. Thank God for diectors like Tim Burton.For God knows it could have been worst. CGI versions of Apes. Best.Al 

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FROM ZENTERTAINMENT:

'PLANET OF THE APES' FOR THE PC, GAME BOY
UBI SOFT is teaming up with FOX Interactive to
publish a series of PLANET OF THE APES games.
An action-adventure PotA game will be released for
the PC this month, followed by a GAME BOY ADVANCE
and GAME BOY COLOR version in November.
http://www.ubisoft.com

.htmlI just saw ondvd file web that the new apes movie will hit Nov 20th! Wont
that over shadow the long awaited tv series?They should wait a couple weeks
at least.But Fox is going for an apes Christmas,More stocking stuffers! The
Press release said apes 2001 made 180 million in the states.and thats not too
bad for a comeback franchise. Bryan<.html

.htmlI Just talked to Tanisha at fox and she said the new apes 2001 will share
same release as the planet apes TV series.As a go ape! this Christmas.Bryan<.html

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It's time for the SEALs to fight like APES!

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Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 4:15
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Subject: [pota] Holy Terror!

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:20 AM

Subject: [pota] Tim Burtons apes shares Tv series release

I just saw ondvd file web that the new apes movie will hit Nov 20th! Wont
that over shadow the long awaited tv series?They should wait a couple weeks
at least.But Fox is going for an apes Christmas,More stocking stuffers! The
Press release said apes 2001 made 180 million in the states.and thats not too
bad for a comeback franchise. Bryan
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:14 AM

Subject: [pota] Holy Terror!

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.html Although I'm usually the first to make a joke or whatever, I think it's actually quite insensitive to trivialize this horrendous tragedy by using quotes from 'Planet of the Apes'.
Our thoughts are with those who have been effected by these events.
Best,
KEN

Jack Krueger wrote:

  They blew it up. God damn them all to hell!  Gee, and some people said the new "Apes" had no social issues to tackle, it's a different world than the '60's. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Hope no one here has loved ones in the line of fire.                                                                           - - - - Jeff  

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williejoe@... writes:

 They're spending $10 million to promote the new one, that'll help the
show. It'd be silly to release the show first. Plus all the advertising for
the original's DVD ("Follow the Evolution").

                                                                           
- - - Jeff



I really can't believe they're going to spend $10 million to promote the DVD.
 Why don't they spend some of that on Special Editions of the originals?

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Although I'm usually the first to make a joke or whatever, I think it's actually quite insensitive to trivialize this horrendous tragedy by using quotes from 'Planet of the Apes'.
Our thoughts are with those who have been effected by these events.
Best,
KEN

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Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

Although I'm usually the first to make a joke or whatever, I think it's actually quite insensitive to trivialize this horrendous tragedy by using quotes from 'Planet of the Apes'.
Our thoughts are with those who have been effected by these events.
Best,
KEN

Jack Krueger wrote:

  They blew it up. God damn them all to hell!  Gee, and some people said the new "Apes" had no social issues to tackle, it's a different world than the '60's. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Hope no one here has loved ones in the line of fire.                                                                           - - - - Jeff

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Subject: [pota] Holy Terror!

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:07 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Holy Terror!

Thank you for that comment Ken.  Jeff, I would've expected a little more tact from you.

B

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

Although I'm usually the first to make a joke or whatever, I think it's actually quite insensitive to trivialize this horrendous tragedy by using quotes from 'Planet of the Apes'.
Our thoughts are with those who have been effected by these events.
Best,
KEN

Jack Krueger wrote:

  They blew it up. God damn them all to hell!  Gee, and some people said the new "Apes" had no social issues to tackle, it's a different world than the '60's. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Hope no one here has loved ones in the line of fire.                                                                           - - - - Jeff

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For those of you who don't know, Kim Hunter lives in New York City, not far
from the financial district. I hope and pray she is alright. Lower
Manhattan has been evacuated. So, chances are she's either in an upper
Manhattan hotel, or has left the island and gone to her son's house. I sent
her a telegram there. I tried to reach her by phone, but her number rings
only once, and both of her son's lines were either busy or off the hook --
Very understandable under the circumstances. You may remember that she's the
nervous type, and got very little sleep during the blackout at the Memphis
Festival, -- and that, obviously, cannot even begin to compare to this. Our
thoughts and prayers go out to her in this very trying time.

In a message dated 9/11/01 7:22:13 PM, kentaylor@... writes:

<< Although I'm usually the first to make a joke or whatever, I think it's
actually quite insensitive to trivialize this horrendous tragedy by
using quotes from 'Planet of the Apes'.
Our thoughts are with those who have been effected by these events. >>

I see what you're saying Ken, but I honestly feel that Jeff and others meant
no harm. The events of yesterday were so unbelievable that it almost left you
speechless. It was truly a dark day in American history, and the history of
the world for that matter. Just to say (or type) anything to lighten the mood
is an attempt to bring some sanity back to the world.

Take care all,

Matt

Thanks Matt. I don't see how anyone was "joking" yesterday about the
tragedy. We were using the art that brings us all to this group in the first
place to try to come to grips with this shit. As I said, I feel bad if
people took it the wrong
- - - - Jeff

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To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Holy Terror!


>
> In a message dated 9/11/01 7:22:13 PM, kentaylor@... writes:
>
> << Although I'm usually the first to make a joke or whatever, I think it's
> actually quite insensitive to trivialize this horrendous tragedy by
> using quotes from 'Planet of the Apes'.
> Our thoughts are with those who have been effected by these events. >>
>
> I see what you're saying Ken, but I honestly feel that Jeff and others
meant
> no harm. The events of yesterday were so unbelievable that it almost left
you
> speechless. It was truly a dark day in American history, and the history
of
> the world for that matter. Just to say (or type) anything to lighten the
mood
> is an attempt to bring some sanity back to the world.
>
> Take care all,
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I got this from zentertainment.com:

Tim Burton's PLANET OF THE APES will be released on video on 11/20,
and on DVD on 12/23.

Matt

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Well, this says the DVD is coming out on November 20th.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:22 AM

Subject: [pota] Check out DVDFILE.COM: Press Release Archive

Click here: DVDFILE.COM: Press Release Archive

Well, this says the DVD is coming out on November 20th.

So, which is it?

-- Rory

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I agree and don't believe anyone on this group would be so callous as to make fun
of the situation , I just felt it wasn't the time or place (whatever the
intention) and wanted to attempt to put things in perspective.
It's also encouraging to see that Ebay has prevented people from capitalizing on
this tragedy by cancelling all auctions for 'World Trade center' items. It's hard
to believe that people could be so cruel as to profiteer from this so soon after
the event. These people should be ashamed of themselves. I'll hop down from my
soapbox now.
Best to all.
KEN

MTotsky@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/11/01 7:22:13 PM, kentaylor@... writes:
>
> << Although I'm usually the first to make a joke or whatever, I think it's
> actually quite insensitive to trivialize this horrendous tragedy by
> using quotes from 'Planet of the Apes'.
> Our thoughts are with those who have been effected by these events. >>
>
> I see what you're saying Ken, but I honestly feel that Jeff and others meant
> no harm. The events of yesterday were so unbelievable that it almost left you
> speechless. It was truly a dark day in American history, and the history of
> the world for that matter. Just to say (or type) anything to lighten the mood
> is an attempt to bring some sanity back to the world.
>
> Take care all,
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>

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williejoe@... writes:

 I think both the DVD and VHs are coming out Nov. 20. Zentertainment
probably just got Dec. 23 date from "Variety". It makes sense to release it
early before people finish their Christmas shopping. The VHS is rental only
(meaning it costs about $100 a copy) and people tend to be too busy around
Christmas to watch much movies.

                                                                        -
- - - Jeff


Yeah, you want to get it out on Nov. 20th so that families can watch it as
they digest their turkey and dressing on the 24th.

-- Rory


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kentaylor@... writes:

I agree and don't believe anyone on this group would be so callous as to
make fun
of the situation , I just felt it wasn't the time or place (whatever the
intention) and wanted to attempt to put things in perspective.
It's also encouraging to see that Ebay has prevented people from
capitalizing on
this tragedy by cancelling all auctions for 'World Trade center' items.
It's hard
to believe that people could be so cruel as to profiteer from this so soon
after
the event. These people should be ashamed of themselves. I'll hop down from
my
soapbox now.
Best to all.
KEN

Well, I hope I don't sound callous saying this, but as a huge fan of POTA,
King Kong, and New York City, I'm so glad that the Statue of Liberty and the
Empire State Building are still there.  I can't believe the World Trade
Center is gone and perhaps as many as 20 thousand people are dead.  It really
hasn't sunk in.  It's just too incredible to take it all in.  I woke up this
morning and at first wondered if I dreamed yesterday.

-- Rory<.html

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In a message dated 9/12/01 9:18:34 PM, Haristas@... writes:

<< Yeah, you want to get it out on Nov. 20th so that families can watch it as
they digest their turkey and dressing on the 24th. >>

Thanksgiving is on the 22nd this year.

Matt (aka Calander Boy)

I still haven't been able to get a call through to Kim, but I finally got one
through to her son, and she's fine. Or, I guess as well as can be expected
for someone who lives in lower Manhattan. He said they only evacuated south
of Canal Street, so she was able to stay.

Now, on to the next subject. I'm against Nuking them. It's not
environmentally friendly. I say it's time to send in the SEAL Teams!

"I know an old country remedy. You simple gut one human and string up the
carcass" ~Limbo~

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<< I can agree with that.
Send in the Seal Team.
Then we'll nuke the son of a bitches. >>

I think conventional weapons will be just fine.
Unless nukes will hasten the creation of
the Planet of the Apes!

I can't help thinking there has to be something better than Man.
Has to be!

<< Then we'll nuke the son of a bitches. >>

I know you're in a lather.
And that this is no time to mince words.
But our Commander in Chief ordered us to go about our business as normal.

So . . . Technically, that should be, Son's Of Bitches, Al.

Before you jump on my tits for the levity, I'd just like to point out,
That Peter Jennings mentioned that police & rescue, soldiers, medical, and
newsmen often indulge in black humor as a sort of defense mechanism.

Apes has lost a lot of ground dropping to 14th, with $175 M.
Still above JPIII at 16th but with a week ahead at $ 177.1M.
They're the only ones even close to Rush Hour 2's $ 206 M.
Jeepers Creepers dropped to third but still ahead of Rock Star.
Just in case you thought it was Wahlberg that made Apes!

hey lordtzero, rory, why the hell are you making jokes about your own friggin
country? i dont know whether or not you think people dying is funny, but im
sure the rest of us dont. so to put it in a few words, ill just say you guys
are jackasses. there, the mob has spoken.

In a message dated 9/13/01 2:37:52 AM Central Daylight Time, benbug05@...
writes:

<< ill just say you guys
are jackasses. >>

Shut up Jackass. You aren't a mob.
I just explained all that. Read the posts!

Hello Benbug

Are you a POTA fan?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: benbug05@... [benbug05@...]
Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2001 17:35
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] (no subject)

hey lordtzero, rory, why the hell are you making jokes about your own
friggin
country? i dont know whether or not you think people dying is funny, but im
sure the rest of us dont. so to put it in a few words, ill just say you guys
are jackasses. there, the mob has spoken.

Don't let the Benbugs bite. People spoke up for me yesterday so I can't
let others dictate how "we're supposed to feel". I don't think anyone has
made light of the victims. Let's stop fighting among ourselves.


- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] (no subject)


> In a message dated 9/13/01 2:37:52 AM Central Daylight Time,
benbug05@...
> writes:
>
> << ill just say you guys
> are jackasses. >>
>
> Shut up Jackass. You aren't a mob.
> I just explained all that. Read the posts!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:09 PM

Subject: [pota] Check out Yahoo! Groups : pota Messages :Message 5578 of 10941

Click here: Yahoo! Groups : pota Messages :Message 5578 of 10941

Here's something I wrote in the POTA e-group back in April.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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Check it out:

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=52120B&variation=&lg=1


Matt

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/13/01 11:37:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

Will VHS go the way of the laserdisc?

I hope so.  VHS picture quality sucks.  I'll still need my VCR to tape TV
shows for a while yet.

-- Rory<.html

.html Hey Gang, I know it's not POTA, but it's food for thought:
 
  Subject:    Coincidence?
 

...this was one of Nostradamus' verses...
  

       "In the year of the new century and nine months,

       From the sky will come a great King of Terror...

       The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.

       Fire approaches the great new city..."
 

       In the city of york there will be a great collapse,

       2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress fall the great leader will succumb

       the third big war will begin when the big city is burning
 

       NOSTRADAMUS
 
 

2001 is the first year of the new century and this is the 9th month.

New York is located at the 45 degree Latitude.

I guess even terrorists watch History's Mysteries on the History Channel, but did they consciously look to complete a Nostradamus prohpecy, or is it just pure
coincidence.

Just like the date of the tragedy: 9-11, the phone number everyone was dialing for help.

Brian

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In a message dated 9/13/01 9:00:09 AM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< I don't think anyone has made light of the victims. >>

I take great offense at the suggestion that I made light of anyone's death.
I may laugh hysterically when they string up the bastards who sent the Son's
of Bitches, but I won't be making light of their deaths either. As sad and
mad as we all are, I welcome anyone who can lighten my mood. I've been in
shock since the shit hit the fan! As far as nuking the bastards goes, it
just is not feasible. The mountainous terrain is not conducive to the use of
thermonuclear devices. The radiation will simply be focused upward. With the
recent French tests, do we really want more fallout circling the globe? As
the pacifist chimps chant...Peace and Freedom! Somthing everyone should
strive for. Unfortunately, some people won't take that point of view until
the shit has been stomped out of them. More's the pity.

<< First time that I've had a chance to get near a computer....Does anyone
know about where in Manhattan that Kim Hunter lives in? Please say it was
Upper Manhattan!!!! I heard that it was less than a mile away! >>

Hi Lynne,

It is a little more than a mile.
Less than a mile and a half.
She's north of Canal St. So,
she didn't have to leave. But
she could of if she wanted to.

>Ken Taylor" <kentaylor@...> wrote:
>> ...Unless the events of
>> Conquest were meant to be set in New York.
>
>I've always just made that assumption while watching Conquest... it just
>makes a few more things fall into place!
>

Well it could have been New York City, but the governor spent a lot
of time there so a nearby state capital works better. Let's see we
have Trenton, Harrisburg, Albany, and Hartford. Trenton probably fits
the best being southwest of NYC.

In a message dated 9/13/01 1:54:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
apeman@... writes:

<< Just like the date of the tragedy: 9-11, the phone number everyone was
dialing for help. >>

It's not just that Brian.
It's also the aniversery of another bombing.
I heard it a couple days ago. I can't remember which one.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian [apeman@...]
Sent: Friday, 14 September 2001 4:48
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Coincidence?

Hey Gang, I know it's not POTA, but it's food for thought:
 
  Subject:    Coincidence?
 

...this was one of Nostradamus' verses...
  

       "In the year of the new century and nine months,

       From the sky will come a great King of Terror...

       The sky will burn at forty-five degrees.

       Fire approaches the great new city..."
 

       In the city of york there will be a great collapse,

       2 twin brothers torn apart by chaos while the fortress fall the great leader will succumb

       the third big war will begin when the big city is burning
 

       NOSTRADAMUS
 
 

2001 is the first year of the new century and this is the 9th month.

New York is located at the 45 degree Latitude.

I guess even terrorists watch History's Mysteries on the History Channel, but did they consciously look to complete a Nostradamus prohpecy, or is it just pure
coincidence.

Just like the date of the tragedy: 9-11, the phone number everyone was dialing for help.

Brian

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These look good. They should've been out first! Who's gonna buy Limbo?

- -
- - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: [pota] Pics of Series 2 Hasbro Figures


> Check it out:
>
>
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=52120B&variation=&lg=1
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

There's a 4 page interview with Linda Harrison in the new "Femme Fatales"
( a sister publication of "Cinefantastique"). The new "Starlog" has
interviews with Burton and Wahlberg. The new "Film Score Monthly" has a the
Danny Elfman interview ( I liked that they included Cornelius on the cover).
Elfman's dad died during production and I read elsewhere that Burton's did
too.

- - - -
Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: [pota] Pics of Series 2 Hasbro Figures


> Check it out:
>
>
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=52120B&variation=&lg=1
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

To: pota@yahoogroups.com
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>
>Then how old would that make Caesar and Aldo? Wouldn't they like be in
>their fifties or maybe even sixties by the time of BATTLE?
>
>(Okay, explain that, smart guy!)
>

18 + 27 = 45. There is nothing implausible about Caesar being 45 years
old in BATTLE. And since Aldo in Conquest was turned into a chimp by
the movie's director the Aldo in Battle, a general, could have been in
his 30's. I think Mandemus moved into the armory the same year as
Conquest, because I think the nuclear war in BATTLE must have occurred
within weeks, even days, of CONQUEST. Kolp blamed Caesar's revolt for
the nuclear war, and I don't think that Caesar's ape revolt would have
lasted more than a few weeks or days without a nuclear war.

>Now, it just so happens that there's a certain someone on this list who's
>written a timeline that accounts for ALL of the discrepancies (without
>any black hole or alternate universe theories) and addresses every POTA
>series (movie, TV, comic) so far (except the Burton travesty) that was
>supposed to be published in a certain book but wasn't because Fox nixed
>it's inclusion. If there were some website to present it on where any fan
>who wanted to could read and appreciate it, said author would be more
>than happy to present the timeline. And Alex, Dave, Mark, and Terry can
>back me up on the detail that went into the project. :-)
>
>
>Chris L.

I just don't think it is possible to tie the POTA movie series into any of
the other POTA series without ignoring things that happen in one or the other.
But if you don't mind if someone takes pot shots at your timeline, why don't
you post it here? It may be interesting and there's probably no better
place to subject it to scrutiny. And it couldn't be worse than the Marvel
timeline.

-Tom

In a message dated 9/13/01 9:48:43 PM Central Daylight Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Who's gonna buy Limbo? >>

Only completist collectors.
Where's Ari?

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> This one is even more shocking!!!
> Oh my God!
>
> Nostradamus:
> Century 5 Quatrain 33
>
> In the year 2003 and seven months,
> man will fall and become incaged.
> He will know no more freedom he will know no more
> truth, when the great director, will direct the great sequel.
>
> Alright Nostradamus!
>

The only prediction Nostradamus made that I can recall is....

In the year 2001 and 11 months,
poor DVD sales of apes remake convince men in suits,
that sequel to dreadful new version of PotA not required.

Daniel

P.S.
All our thoughts from everyone over here in the UK are with you all
in the States.

.html It's actually the anniversary of the 1978 Camp David Accords between Egypt and Israel, (Arabs vs Jews), which upset a lot of  Muslims if I remember correctly.  Bombings and attacks took place after those peace initiatives were concluded in ways that most say benefitted the Isralies more than the Arabs.

B

LordTZer0@... wrote:

In a message dated 9/13/01 1:54:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
apeman@... writes:

<< Just like the date of the tragedy: 9-11, the phone number everyone was
 dialing for help. >>

It's not just that Brian.
It's also the aniversery of another bombing.
I heard it a couple days ago.  I can't remember which one.

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.htmlIn a message dated 9/13/01 10:59:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, williejoe@... writes:

 There's a 4 page interview with Linda Harrison in the new "Femme Fatales"
( a sister publication of "Cinefantastique"). The new "Starlog" has
interviews with Burton and Wahlberg. The new "Film Score Monthly" has a the
Danny Elfman interview ( I liked that they included Cornelius on the cover).
Elfman's dad died during production and I read elsewhere that Burton's did
too.

                                                                 - - - -
Jeff

It's Caesar, not Cornelius.<.html

In a message dated 9/13/01 10:48:49 PM, williejoe@... writes:

<< These look good. They should've been out first! Who's gonna buy Limbo? >>

I actually liked the Limbo figure. I thought it was the best one of the
original wave.

Matt

In a message dated 9/14/01 6:47:43 AM, daniel225nma@... writes:

<< All our thoughts from everyone over here in the UK are with you all
in the States. >>

Thanks Dan and everyone else from across the pond for your well wishes. I saw
on the news last night that they played the American National Anthem at the
changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace (the first time they have ever
done that). It gave me chills. It is reassuring to know that most people
consider this a global disaster and not just an American one. Our lives will
all change because of this.

Matt

Though "Planet of the Apes" kept Rick Baker from taking a long vacation,
he apparantly isn't looking back. After he finishes "Men in Black 2" he's
going to do "Hellboy" and "The Incredible Hulk". He told "Fangoria" he'd
like to do any "Apes" sequels.

-
- - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <MTotsky@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: [pota] Pics of Series 2 Hasbro Figures


> Check it out:
>
>
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=52120B&variation=&lg=1
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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I might just be contrary, but I'm thrilled to see KRULL, I really want to get him. Very cool - Jeff Doten

> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:33:50 -0700
> From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> Subject: Re: Pics of Series 2 Hasbro Figures
>
> These look good. They should've been out first! Who's gonna buy Limbo?
>
> - -
> - - Jeff
>
>

Jeff Doten's Illustration Studio
http://www.jeffdoten.com

Hi guys, didn't know if you all were aware of this article on Rick Baker at http://www. vfxpro.com/. As well, the October issue of Cinefex ( the excellant special effects magazine, not to be confused Cinescape...) http://www.cinefex.com/ will feature Planet of the Apes - Jeff Doten

Jeff Doten's Illustration Studio
http://www.jeffdoten.com

Check this out:


http://www.dvdfile.com/news/web_wire/press_release/titles/planetotheapes_2001.

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Wow!


Matt

In a message dated 9/14/01 10:31:26 AM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< In the year 2001 and 11 months,
poor DVD sales of apes remake convince men in suits,
that sequel to dreadful new version of PotA not required. >>

It might have ben funny, Al,
if you had presented it in the form of a quatrain.

In a message dated 9/14/01 8:34:34 AM Central Daylight Time, MTotsky@...
writes:

<< I actually liked the Limbo figure. I thought it was the best one of the
original wave. >>

I checked the Ari at Walmart when I was getting Mike's POTA bandages. Too
much forehead. I think I might wait for the Medicoms.

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>From: Brian <apeman@...>
>Subject: Coincidence?
>Hey Gang, I know it's not POTA, but it's food for thought:
> Subject: Coincidence?
>...this was one of Nostradamus' verses...

[SNIP]


Actually... it wasn't. :)

The whole thing is a fraud -- check out the following URL:
http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/hoaxes/predict.htm

A fascinating fraud, to be sure -- but a fraud nonetheless. :)

Hey Gang,

I kinda had a feeling that this might be a hoax or stretching of the
truth even though I forwarded to the group anyway yesterday.
Anyone out there well versed in Nostradamus' writing?

Check out this site for more "unverified" Nostradamus stuff related to
this weeks catastrophes.

Try the following link:
<http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa091101b.htm>

I should know better than to forward crap to folks before I do my own
homework.

Sorry if I got folks worked up for nothing.

Brian

.htmlLook, let's be intelligent here.  Nostradamus is a bunch of crap.  No one can or has ever been able to see the future.  How can you see that which hasn't happened?   As we move through time, we move through space.  It's impossible to see the future because we literally aren't there yet.

Now, as Dr. Zaius said in BENEATH, "Enough of this nonsense!"

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Nostradamus And Doing your own Homework

Look, let's be intelligent here.  Nostradamus is a bunch of crap.  No one can or has ever been able to see the future.  How can you see that which hasn't happened?   As we move through time, we move through space.  It's impossible to see the future because we literally aren't there yet.

Now, as Dr. Zaius said in BENEATH, "Enough of this nonsense!"

-- Rory

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The DVD cover graphics for the new movie looks pretty good (though
certainly not earthshaking). Looks similar to the TV show DVD graphic, with
a big ape head on top and small figures on the bottom. They will look good
together in stores. But why splash Wahlberg's name across it? He's the star
but he hasn't earned that kind of billing yet. I guess it's better than
having Zanuck's name there: "A Richard Zanuck Production based on the film
he greenlighted".

- -
- - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: <dotenj@...>
To: "PlanetOfTheApesMovies" <PlanetOfTheApesMovies@yahoogroups.com>; "pota"
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:03 AM
Subject: [pota] Visual FX Pro - Rick Baker article


> Hi guys, didn't know if you all were aware of this article on Rick Baker
at http://www. vfxpro.com/. As well, the October issue of Cinefex ( the
excellant special effects magazine, not to be confused Cinescape...)
http://www.cinefex.com/ will feature Planet of the Apes - Jeff Doten
>
> Jeff Doten's Illustration Studio
> http://www.jeffdoten.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

.htmlThis morning, Saturday the 15th, the TNT cable network was supposed to show the 1976 remake of "King Kong."   Well, we all know where that ended.  Instead, they've cancelled that movie.  I see right now that they're showing Franklin J. Schaffner's "Papillon."

To paraphrase the ending of Schaffner's film, "We're still here, you bastards!"

-- Rory


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.htmlSince the new POTA comes out on DVD just two days before Thanksgiving, and is loaded with so many extras, I guess I'll just have to say to you all that on November 20th Fox will be giving us:

                 A TURKEY WITH ALL THE DRESSINGS!!!!


Thanks Fox!

-- RORY


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Jeff <dotenj@...> wrote:

> I might just be contrary, but I'm thrilled to see KRULL

Now there's a phrase you didn't hear critics say in the 80s.

Alan

This is fantastic news. I was looking forward to the game much more than the
remake in all honesty, and I was gutted when they shelved it. I can't wait!
(Until of course it arrives and I discover it's probably for a higher spec
PC than mine...)

Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:06 PM
Subject: [pota] ape game news


> FROM ZENTERTAINMENT:
>
> 'PLANET OF THE APES' FOR THE PC, GAME BOY
> UBI SOFT is teaming up with FOX Interactive to
> publish a series of PLANET OF THE APES games.
> An action-adventure PotA game will be released for
> the PC this month, followed by a GAME BOY ADVANCE
> and GAME BOY COLOR version in November.
> http://www.ubisoft.com
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:13 AM

Subject: [pota] Burton's POTA DVD

Since the new POTA comes out on DVD just two days before Thanksgiving, and is loaded with so many extras, I guess I'll just have to say to you all that on November 20th Fox will be giving us:

                 A TURKEY WITH ALL THE DRESSINGS!!!!


Thanks Fox!

-- RORY


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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:13 AM

Subject: [pota] Burton's POTA DVD

Since the new POTA comes out on DVD just two days before Thanksgiving, and is loaded with so many extras, I guess I'll just have to say to you all that on November 20th Fox will be giving us:

                 A TURKEY WITH ALL THE DRESSINGS!!!!


Thanks Fox!

-- RORY


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There's also going to be a PotA game for GameBoy Advance and Sony Playstation.

-Joe