How much you want?

Michael (the sarcastic)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MTotsky@... [MTotsky@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2001 12:53
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] The ORIGINAL Planet of the Apes
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/15/01 7:41:16 AM, Haristas@... writes:
>
> << This is so simple to understand that I'm really puzzled by those that
> don't
> get this. This is amazing! >>
>
> Rory,
>
> Oh, I get what you're saying now. You are totally making sense.
> This is very
> disturbing for me because the one thing that really turned me on
> to POTA when
> I was a kid was the whole notion of the circular time line. But
> now that you
> had to go and explain the hell out of it, you ruined it for me. I
> no longer
> enjoy POTA anymore. I am going to get rid of all my comics,
> figures, cards,
> DVDs, VHSs, posters, etc.
>
> Matt (ex-Ape fan)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

"Since when did Rory become the 'New' Alex? (joke)."

That's really low Ken - take it back! Poor old Alex is still reading these
postings and I'm sure he feels like everyone is laughing at him.....because
they are.....hey, did young Joe defect too?

"The Time Tunnel...is it just me or does that show feel like it runs for two
hours each episode?"

No it isn't just you - that show sucked ass.

"The movie could have been over in like 20 minutes!"

What, instead of 2 sequels later? I think you answered your own question
there.

Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2001 14:37
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] The ORIGINAL Planet of the Apes

In a message dated 10/15/01 10:49:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, MTotsky@... writes:

<< If you are going to argue that it is, then I want to hear a SCIENTIFIC
EXPLINATION>>

Hey Screaming Rory,

Did you mean explanation?

Matt

YES!!!   Whatever the spelling. . . . Have you got anything else to say?

-- Rory

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In a message dated 10/15/01 8:34:59 PM, whitty@... writes:

<< Taylor's ship leaves Earth.


Then arrives back on Earth with apes in it.


We go through the events of Escape, Conquest and Battle.

I hate to keep this going, but I can't help myself.  

It should be:

1. Taylor's ship leaves Earth.

2. Taylor's ship crashlands on Earth.

3. Taylor's ship sinks, is repaired, blasts off from Earth, with apes in       it.

4. Taylor's ship, with apes in it, arrives back on Earth.


Between 1. and 2. does not come 4.

-- Rory

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.html In a message dated 10/15/01 11:16:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

<< And by the way, ALL the depictions of time travel in PLANET and ESCAPE are
in actuality quite pysically IMPOSSIBLE >>

Traveling forward in time is relatively easy compared to traveling back.  Go
into stasis, travel towards the sun ant speeds approaching the speed of light
and there you are.  But back is a different story.  The literary device of
Earth's destruction jumping them back is as good as any.  But, if you talk to
the Quantum physics guys, they'll tell you if you did, you may be back in
time, but you'd be in a parallel universe.  So, there's no way there could be
any Grandfather Paradoxes or anything.  The players may look the same but
it's a whole new ball game.  Even if you didn't change anything.  Just being
there to observe it changes it.  There's no avoiding it.

Exactly, T!   This is all I'm really trying to say:  The apes going back in time to 1973 would change what comes later, and Zira and Cornelius can't be there own ancesters because they had to born out of a world that had already become a planet of the apes.

D'oooooh!!!

I can't think about this anymore!

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2001 15:20
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Not Possible

  Nor is it possible to travel to the moon.

 

                                                       - - - Bob Jones, 1847

 

 

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From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 5:27 PM

Subject: [pota] Not Possible

Nor is it possible to travel in time or for apes to talk.

 

So as you said Rory, none of it makes sense.

 

 

 

 

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From: Haristas@... [mailto:Haristas@...]




And by the way, ALL the depictions of time travel in PLANET and ESCAPE are in actuality quite pysically IMPOSSIBLE, so this really is silly.

End of discussion.

-- Rory


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In a message dated 10/16/01 2:38:00 AM, whitty@... writes:

<< How much you want? >>

One meeellllion dollars.

Matt (aka Dr. Evil)

In a message dated 10/16/01 2:47:53 AM, whitty@... writes:

<< "The Time Tunnel...is it just me or does that show feel like it runs for
two
hours each episode?"

No it isn't just you - that show sucked ass. >>

Then you'll be pleased with this tidbit I got today from ZENtertainmnent:

"TIME TUNNEL Remake In The Works

VARIETY reports screenwriter Rand Ravich (The Astronaut's Wife) and director
Todd Holland (Malcolm in the Middle) are developing an updated version of the
1966 sci-fi
series THE TIME TUNNEL for REGENCY TV and 20th CENTURY FOX Television. ABC
and FOX are in talks to acquire the show, which will revolve around two young
scientists working on a secret government project that allows them to travel
through time."

Not that I really care (I've never seen the show), but I felt compelled to
pass this on.

Matt

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 That's the thing, Rory, "unless there's something about the physical world we don't know about". I used black holes in my "Apes" chronology, "Star Trek" uses worm holes. There's enough mystery in the world that "Apes" works for me.

                                                                      - - - - Jeff



Star Trek uses the "device" of the warp engines.  Matter and anti-mater are mixed to create a controlled implosion that creates the warp core, which in turn creates a magnetic field around the ship that's so strong it "warps" the space around it.  Thus the ship can then slice through space at speeds faster than light.

Fantasy, I think.

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Well, I'm back from Colorado. I see you people have talked up a storm in 4
days. 397 mails to be exact. Too bad you didn't hit that magic 400 mark.
Oh well, we all can't be pefect.

Anyway, I had a great time in Colorado. On Saturday night, my cousins and I
had an Ape-A-Thon. We watched the whole Ape series through the night (we had
to rent Battle. They didn't have it). It was a fun time.

So, then I'll get back to posting, I guess. Cheers.

-Joe

In a message dated 10/10/01 10:22:33 AM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< Be cool and stay cool.
The Alex Wars are officially over.

Best, and take care.
Al >>

I'll talk to you later then. Sorry to see you go.

-Joe

So does anyone else have a multi-zone DVD player that actually records to
VHS?

I'd like to send some gems for some of you guys to watch.

T, you would love "Chopper" - I am actually amazed that it was not released
in the US.

The lead actor is destined to be the next biggie in Hollywood - he gave an
outstanding performance.

Michael

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So does anyone else have a multi-zone DVD player that actually records to
VHS?

I'd like to send some gems for some of you guys to watch.

T, you would love "Chopper" - I am actually amazed that it was not released
in the US.

The lead actor is destined to be the next biggie in Hollywood - he gave an
outstanding performance.

Michael

"Chopper" did play in this country, but at few theatres and to not much business.  But I hope to see it on DVD someday.

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T, you would love "Chopper" - I am actually amazed that it was not released
in the US.

Isn't that the one about that old Aussie gangster?
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Chopper is a great Aussie movie but I don't know if it would ( at the risk of
sounding condescending) 'translate' to U.S audiences. The main subject of the
movie is VERY Australian, but not in a cute, fish-out-of-water Croc Dundee way.
I think it's being released on DVD in the states in Dec.
The film's star, Eric Bana has apparently signed on to play Bruce Banner in
Universal's Incredible Hulk movie.
Best,
KEN

Michael Whitty wrote:

> So does anyone else have a multi-zone DVD player that actually records to
> VHS?
>
> I'd like to send some gems for some of you guys to watch.
>
> T, you would love "Chopper" - I am actually amazed that it was not released
> in the US.
>
> The lead actor is destined to be the next biggie in Hollywood - he gave an
> outstanding performance.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>

For anyone who may be interested, I have a few spares of famed POTA book and
record sets released by Power during the 70's and early 80's. I have copies of
Planet, Escape and Battle. They are still sealed. They are $10 each ( plus $5
for postage) or $25 for the set of three (plus postage). I only have a few sets
, so let me know if you're interested.
Best,
KEN

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For anyone who may be interested, I have a few spares of famed POTA book and
record sets released by Power during the 70's and early 80's. I have copies of
Planet, Escape and Battle. They are still sealed. They are $10 each ( plus $5
for postage) or $25 for the set of three (plus postage). I only have a few sets
, so let me know if you're interested.
Best,
KEN

I haven't got a record player.  Could you please transfer them to CD and let me know for how much.  Then send me the CDs and the POTA books.  Please hurry up and get this done for me PRONTO!
And make sure the CDs sound good!

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.html To do that, I'd have to break the seals. Then they wouldn't be minty mint. Plus I'd have to buy a CD burner and ad that to your price. Seriously, those of you who may be interested, email me privately.
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 10/17/01 6:28:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kentaylor@... writes:
 
 

For anyone who may be interested, I have a few spares of famed POTA book and
record sets released by Power during the 70's and early 80's. I have copies of
Planet, Escape and Battle. They are still sealed. They are $10 each ( plus $5
for postage) or $25 for the set of three (plus postage). I only have a few sets
, so let me know if you're interested.
Best,
KEN

I haven't got a record player.  Could you please transfer them to CD and let me know for how much.  Then send me the CDs and the POTA books.  Please hurry up and get this done for me PRONTO!
And make sure the CDs sound good!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken & Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:24 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] POWER BOOK AND RECORD SETS

To do that, I'd have to break the seals. Then they wouldn't be minty mint. Plus I'd have to buy a CD burner and ad that to your price. Seriously, those of you who may be interested, email me privately.
Best,
KEN

Haristas@... wrote:

In a message dated 10/17/01 6:28:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kentaylor@... writes:
 
 

For anyone who may be interested, I have a few spares of famed POTA book and
record sets released by Power during the 70's and early 80's. I have copies of
Planet, Escape and Battle. They are still sealed. They are $10 each ( plus $5
for postage) or $25 for the set of three (plus postage). I only have a few sets
, so let me know if you're interested.
Best,
KEN

I haven't got a record player.  Could you please transfer them to CD and let me know for how much.  Then send me the CDs and the POTA books.  Please hurry up and get this done for me PRONTO!
And make sure the CDs sound good!

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:19 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: Faning the flame

Movieheadlines.net says that the first people to join the new official "Lord of the Rings" fan club will get their names on the end credits of the film when it hits DVD. It's their way of thanking the fans. What's Fox done for us lately?

 

                                                                            - - - Jeff

 

 

Have you seen the new SW DVD yet Jeff?

Pretty cool huh?

I loved the scene from the making of episode one, when Lucus knew he had a bomb on his hands when seeing the rough cut. That is the most true to life documentary I've ever seen.

The preview room was in silent shock. WOW!

 

As for Lord of the Rings, they better hope that first one is good, if not, they're looking at parts 2 and 3 on DVD months after the first film release.

A very bold move filming all three without a clue as to how people will react to the first. (it better be made well)

 

P.S. This is the Star Wars egroup isn't it?

Opps, my mistake.

 

Best,

Al

 

 

 

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Attention all movie fans and especially fans of Planet of the apes!


PLANET OF THE APES DVD is being released 11/20/2001, and our company
M80 has been chosen to promote it.

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Hello,
Attention all movie fans and especially fans of Planet of the apes!


PLANET OF THE APES DVD is being released 11/20/2001, and our company
M80 has been chosen to promote it.

Planet of the apes is already out of the theaters,and our mission is
making a big success of the soon to be released DVD! We need your
help in spreading the word about this DVD release.

Itfs very simple work and fun!
You can spend as much or as little time as you want and no matter how
much you help us, You will receive a FREE copy of the DVD/VHS !

So, I'm looking forward to you joining us and helping out!!  
If you are interested;please e-mail me at meimi@...

Check out the totally amazing official site
http://www.planetoftheapes.com/
To see who our company is go to: www.m80im.com




Regards,


Meimi

This sounds right up Alex's neighborhood, but you know what, if it gets me a free copy of this turkey then I'm all for it.  What do I have to do?

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I just checked...

POTA2K1 was beaten to the 180 mil mark by around a Million .5 by JPIII.
Oh well, JPIII got pretty good reviews. I think Apes did pretty good for a
flick with such mixed reviews.

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In a message dated 10/19/01 12:00:27 AM, prophecysite@... writes:

<< HEY!! WOW!! WAIT A MINUTE!! I'm not even supose to be here!

hehehe!!! >>

"Yeah we tease him a lot but we got him on the spot, Welcome Back...."

Matt

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:06 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] planet of the apes street team

In a message dated 10/18/01 6:32:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mimi_mm44@... writes:

Hello,
Attention all movie fans and especially fans of Planet of the apes!


PLANET OF THE APES DVD is being released 11/20/2001, and our company
M80 has been chosen to promote it.

Planet of the apes is already out of the theaters,and our mission is
making a big success of the soon to be released DVD! We need your
help in spreading the word about this DVD release.

Itfs very simple work and fun!
You can spend as much or as little time as you want and no matter how
much you help us, You will receive a FREE copy of the DVD/VHS !

So, I'm looking forward to you joining us and helping out!!  
If you are interested;please e-mail me at meimi@...

Check out the totally amazing official site
http://www.planetoftheapes.com/
To see who our company is go to: www.m80im.com




Regards,


Meimi

This sounds right up Alex's neighborhood, but you know what, if it gets me a free copy of this turkey then I'm all for it.  What do I have to do?

-- Rory
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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:49 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: planet of the apes street team

Hello,
Attention all movie fans and especially fans of Planet of the apes!


PLANET OF THE APES DVD is being released 11/20/2001, and our company
M80 has been chosen to promote it.

Planet of the apes is already out of the theaters,and our mission is
making a big success of the soon to be released DVD! We need your
help in spreading the word about this DVD release.

Itfs very simple work and fun!
You can spend as much or as little time as you want and no matter how
much you help us, You will receive a FREE copy of the DVD/VHS !

So, I'm looking forward to you joining us and helping out!! 
If you are interested;please e-mail me at meimi@m...

Check out the totally amazing official site
http://www.planetoftheapes.com/
To see who our company is go to: www.m80im.com

 

Well, I'm all for it. God knows I'm already doing it on my site.

And although getting it for free would be nice, I wouldn't mind paying for it as I know this double disc set is going to be killer. And worth the buy, I love special features.

Best,

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:12 PM

Subject: [pota] The circle timeline

The circle timeline

The deleted scenes of Battle (Alpha Omega) was to complete the time circle for Planet of the Apes, but Jacobs then wanted to leave the future more open to thought. Will apes and humans ever live in peace?

 

The tear in Caesar's eye was meant to say NO, because clearly it was written with Alpha Omega scene to remain in the film. But because it was cut, then the future is now left to be unknown and left open to thought. Was it a tear of joy or sorrow?

 

So if you like the uncut version with Alpha Omega, then it is yes, it is a circle. And if you like the cut version without the Alpha Omega, then it is no, it is not a circle.

 

And so that is the best way to explain it.

Personaly I like the circle timeline, it make Planet of the Apes, everlasting!

Yeah Baby!

 

Best.

Al

 

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JP3 didn't get good reviews. The only good thing people said about it was
the story and characters were so lousy that at least they kept the dinosaurs
coming. Certainly it was a disappointment moneywise by JP standards.

- - -
- Jeff

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From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:23 PM
Subject: [pota] #s


>
>
> I just checked...
>
> POTA2K1 was beaten to the 180 mil mark by around a Million .5 by JPIII.
> Oh well, JPIII got pretty good reviews. I think Apes did pretty good for a
> flick with such mixed reviews.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:41 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: Faning the flame

Hey, Al. I don't know what your e-mail address is and I can't access it from the site. The Ep One DVD is excellent. Whether you like the movie or not (it's growing on me) if you like stuff about moviemaking it's a good buy. I haven't seen the documentary yet but just the multi-part web doc was enough to make me go "Wow!" One section is just on Lucas' first day of writing and we get to see his house, etc. Reminds me of the mind boggling extras on the "Terminator" DVDs and it should since they were all done by Van Ling.

 

 

                                                                         - - - - Jeff

 

 

Yeah, it's in the deleted scenes area. Called: "THE BEGINNING" Great Documentary! Best Doc I've seen yet on any DVD, amazing.

 

prophecysite@... is still my e-mail from the old site.

e-mail me anytime.

 

Best bud.

Al

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:41 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: The circle timeline

There is a comic book called "The Forbidden Zone" where Mendez leaves the mutants, which suggests history has changed. I'm including that in Pt. 2 of my chronology.

 

                                                                       - - - - Jeff

 

 

That is interesting, I never knew that.

And would be interesting to read. And perhaps that's what the cartoon series meant when the astronauts landed after the there was no Planet of the Apes.

I believe the cartoon series began in 3979? A year after I believe?

I'll have too recheck my POTA Cartoon series, I haven't watched them in a while.

 

You see everyone, I can talk POTA classic as well. :o)

I'll stay away from remake for a long while...promise.

 

"Can't we all just get along".....LAST ONE, PROMISE! :o)

 

Best.

Al

 

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JP3 didn't get good reviews. The only good thing people said about it was
the story and characters were so lousy that at least they kept the dinosaurs
coming. Certainly it was a disappointment moneywise by JP standards

Not true. Rodger Ebert said it was better than JPII and the most enjoyable
movie of the summer.

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<< HEY!! WOW!! WAIT A MINUTE!! I'm not even supose to be here!

hehehe!!! >>

"Yeah we tease him a lot but we got him on the spot, Welcome Back...."

Matt

HEY!!!   This kind of corn isn't welcome here.  Stick to the kind that grows eight feet high in just weeks.

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 10/19/01 12:37:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, prophecysite@... writes:

There is a comic book called "The Forbidden Zone" where Mendez leaves the mutants, which suggests history has changed. I'm including that in Pt. 2 of my chronology.  
                                                                      - - - - Jeff


That is interesting, I never knew that.
And would be interesting to read. And perhaps that's what the cartoon series meant when the astronauts landed after the there was no Planet of the Apes.
I believe the cartoon series began in 3979? A year after I believe?
I'll have too recheck my POTA Cartoon series, I haven't watched them in a while.

Oh, you rocket scientists!   Look, history changed by the simple fact that in ESCAPE Cornelius tells the secret of the apes' pre-history, then with the birth of Milo (aka Caesar), that history as to how the apes take over is changed by the events in CONQUEST, then Caesar further affects changes in history with his actions in BATTLE (i.e. humans and apes living as equals at the end).

The future will NOT be the same.   I have no problem with that.

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/19/01 12:40:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Yeah, I watched the "Star Wars" doc. People complained about "Episode One" but watching the doc it's obvious Lucaswas wild about the choices he made. Watch the sparkle in his eye during Jake Lloyd's audition (who was the most exuberant but not the best). He obviously thought Jar Jar was the show stealer. I also enjoyed when he shows Spielberg the battle droid and when Ewan McGregor gets a haircut. What's incredible is how bare the sets are. It's like minimalist theatre - - - EVERYTHING is added later. And how Lucas can actually change performances with the computer (and does it often). I also liked when Lucas said that "More American Graffiti" made 10 cents. It even gives us a preview of "Episode 2" (on Lucas' notepad). It's almost enough to turn Rory into a "Star Wars" fan!                                      - - - - Jeff

Get out of here with this "Star Wars" crap, Veetus Buttock Maximus!

Personally, I'm looking forward to rent the "Dogs and Cats" DVD this weekend.  Anybody seen that one.  I hear Charlton Heston did one of the voices in it.

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But we'll soon find out when BLEEP BLEEP 2001 comes out.

Best.
Al  

Alex, you BLEEP BLEEP, and BLEEP BLEEP, and walking pestilence, BLEEP BLEEP!

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/19/01 1:41:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

JP3 didn't get good reviews. The only good thing people said about it was
the story and characters were so lousy that at least they kept the dinosaurs
coming. Certainly it was a disappointment moneywise by JP standards

Not true.  Rodger Ebert said it was better than JPII and the most enjoyable
movie of the summer.

I give JP3 a "good" review, three stars.  I liked it.  Much better than BLEEP BLEEP!

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Okay, I'll repeat the question.

Has anyone bothered to verify the validity of these offers?

Michael



I'll get back to you on this, but I doubt you Aussies can get anything for free.  You're not one of US!   

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Only because it was wall to wall dinosaurs. I don't consider a movie whose
only redeeming quality is it keeps throwing FX at you to be a good
- - - Jeff

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Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] #s


> JP3 didn't get good reviews. The only good thing people said about it was
> the story and characters were so lousy that at least they kept the
dinosaurs
> coming. Certainly it was a disappointment moneywise by JP standards
>
> Not true. Rodger Ebert said it was better than JPII and the most
enjoyable
> movie of the summer.
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 4:50 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: The circle timeline

In a message dated 10/19/01 12:37:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, prophecysite@... writes:

There is a comic book called "The Forbidden Zone" where Mendez leaves the mutants, which suggests history has changed. I'm including that in Pt. 2 of my chronology.  
                                                                      - - - - Jeff


That is interesting, I never knew that.
And would be interesting to read. And perhaps that's what the cartoon series meant when the astronauts landed after the there was no Planet of the Apes.
I believe the cartoon series began in 3979? A year after I believe?
I'll have too recheck my POTA Cartoon series, I haven't watched them in a while.

Oh, you rocket scientists!   Look, history changed by the simple fact that in ESCAPE Cornelius tells the secret of the apes' pre-history, then with the birth of Milo (aka Caesar), that history as to how the apes take over is changed by the events in CONQUEST, then Caesar further affects changes in history with his actions in BATTLE (i.e. humans and apes living as equals at the end).

The future will NOT be the same.   I have no problem with that.

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 I don't get it. It's a discussion group like ours, about the new movie. What, everyone gets a DVD? There won't be anyone left to buy it.                                                             - - - - Jeff

Yeah, this is strange.  Now I'm getting all these e-mails from these people telling how excited they are about the new movie coming to Video/DVD.  Dare I tell them what I think?  I'll just keep my mouth shut and see how this all gets me a free POTA 2001 DVD.  I don't think it will, but I'll play along.

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 Only because it was wall to wall dinosaurs. I don't consider a movie whose
only redeeming quality is it keeps throwing FX at you to be a good
      - - - Jeff

I don't get your gripe, Jeff.  There's nothing better than watching people running from, getting stomped on by, and eaten by dinosaurs.  It's the only thing I find exciting about the "JP" movies and Number 3 really delievered.  I only wish it lasted another hour with lots more Dino action.

What did you think of James Franciscus' "The Valley of Gwangi," Jeff?   That was a pretty good summer flick -- back in 1969!

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.html In a message dated 10/19/01 12:40:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Yeah, I watched the "Star Wars" doc. People complained about "Episode One" but watching the doc it's obvious Lucaswas wild about the choices he made. Watch the sparkle in his eye during Jake Lloyd's audition (who was the most exuberant but not the best). He obviously thought Jar Jar was the show stealer. I also enjoyed when he shows Spielberg the battle droid and when Ewan McGregor gets a haircut. What's incredible is how bare the sets are. It's like minimalist theatre - - - EVERYTHING is added later. And how Lucas can actually change performances with the computer (and does it often). I also liked when Lucas said that "More American Graffiti" made 10 cents. It even gives us a preview of "Episode 2" (on Lucas' notepad). It's almost enough to turn Rory into a "Star Wars" fan!                    &

Get out of here with this "Star Wars" crap, Veetus Buttock Maximus!

Personally, I'm looking forward to rent the "Dogs and Cats" DVD this weekend.  Anybody seen that one.  I hear Charlton Heston did one of the voices in it.

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/19/01 5:39:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

Rory,

I thought "Cats and Dogs" (or is it "Dogs and Cats"?) was average.  It was still far superior to POTA 2001.

What was good though was "Spy Kids".  Yes, I'm serious - it was really a great movie (even had Cheech Marin).

Michael



Yes, I'd like to see "Spy Kids" too.  I'm not sure if it's out on DVD here yet or not.

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/19/01 5:58:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

What did you think of James Franciscus' "The Valley of Gwangi," Jeff?   That was a pretty good summer flick -- back in 1969!

I like that one then.  But now, it suffers from a lack of Dino-action.  I guess the JP flicks have made us jaded.



I know what you mean, but, and call me old-fashioned, I rather like looking at that stop-motion animation.  Yes, it's done much better today, but sort of lacks the charm of old "King Kong."

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/18/01 11:24:17 PM Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Alex, send your free copy to Cougar. Maybe he'll watch it.

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----- Original Message -----

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:26 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] #s

In a message dated 10/19/01 12:56:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

 Only because it was wall to wall dinosaurs. I don't consider a movie whose
only redeeming quality is it keeps throwing FX at you to be a good
      - - - Jeff

I don't get your gripe, Jeff.  There's nothing better than watching people running from, getting stomped on by, and eaten by dinosaurs.  It's the only thing I find exciting about the "JP" movies and Number 3 really delievered.  I only wish it lasted another hour with lots more Dino action.

What did you think of James Franciscus' "The Valley of Gwangi," Jeff?   That was a pretty good summer flick -- back in 1969!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:20 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: The circle timeline

Oh, you rocket scientists!   Look, history changed by the simple fact that in ESCAPE Cornelius tells the secret of the apes' pre-history, then with the birth of Milo (aka Caesar), that history as to how the apes take over is changed by the events in CONQUEST, then Caesar further affects changes in history with his actions in BATTLE (i.e. humans and apes living as equals at the end).

The future will NOT be the same.   I have no problem with that.

 

To a certain point Rory.

If the main elements of the future remain untouched then the furture will remain untouched. For example:

 

The Apes arrive a year after Taylor leaves (of course it's the same ship):

 

Caesar rises and takes over the city, but is it the same city as Aldo? Aldo was a chimp according to Cornelius and Zira and not a Gorilla. And there was many cities using apes as slaves and not just Ceasar's City.

So the same colony that Aldo creates in New Jersey may not be Ceasar's.

 

Mendez does see the bomb as a thing to worship in Battle's uncut scenes, so the timeline of Mendez remains. And while Jeff speaks of the Mendez departure, I'm sure that that version doesn't appear on Japanese comics nor any books as Japan kept the uncut version.

 

So as long as Ceasar didn't rise in Aldo's City and Mendez continues with the mutants, the Alpha Omega fate is the same. And if Ceasar's city is not the same as Aldo's, then Cornelius and Zira will be reborn in the future. Seeing that nothing has been touched in Aldo's colony.

 

If you look at books outside of the films, I'm sure you'll always find something to support either side, but if you stick to the films themselves, using cut or uncut BATTLE, you can believe whatever version you please.

 

In the end it doesn't matter because both are supported by Battle. If you live in Amercia, you believe in changed fate, If you live in Japan or else where, where the uncut version was released, you believe in circle timeline.

 

Something to think about.

Oh and I forgot, it's also in the bible :o)

 

Best.

Al

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:52 PM

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  I don't get it. It's a discussion group like ours, about the new movie. What, everyone gets a DVD? There won't be anyone left to buy it.                                                             - - - - Jeff

What I wonder is how we get them?  They didn't take any info except my email addie.  Do we get an e coupon to print out or something?




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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 3:53 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Good Movies

In a message dated 10/19/01 5:39:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

Rory,

I thought "Cats and Dogs" (or is it "Dogs and Cats"?) was average.  It was still far superior to POTA 2001.

What was good though was "Spy Kids".  Yes, I'm serious - it was really a great movie (even had Cheech Marin).

Michael

Yes, I'd like to see "Spy Kids" too.  I'm not sure if it's out on DVD here yet or not.

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Howdy, ya'll,

Perusing Terry's website, I found a notation of a short story called
"Invasion of the Apes," originally published in Brazil and then translated
into English.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Rich

By the way, my apologies to those of you on this list who have written to
me in private and not received replies. I was hospitalized until yesterday
and unable to answer my email. I'm trying to get through hordes of email
this weekend and will hopefully write back to you this weekend, depending
on how I'm feeling. Thanks for your patience!

Rich

Another quick question -- I have the unused scripts "Hostage" and "A Fallen
God" and was wondering if there are other unused scripts from the POTA-TV
series floating around out there that I should get my hands on. Anyone
know of any?

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In a message dated 10/18/01 10:06:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< And so that is the best way to explain it.
Personaly I like the circle timeline, it make Planet of the Apes,
everlasting!
Yeah Baby! >>

Just like the Lion King. Sort of.

-Joe

Sign me up. I sent you an E-mail about it, and this looks to be a pretty
cool deal. Free things are the BEST things in life, eh?

-Joe

In a message dated 10/18/01 11:24:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

<< Alex, send your free copy to Cougar. Maybe he'll watch it. >>

Oh, I highly doubt that will EVER happen.

-Joe

In a message dated 10/19/01 12:40:53 AM Central Daylight Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:

<< Not true. Rodger Ebert said it was better than JPII and the most
enjoyable
movie of the summer. >>

Anything is more enjoyable than JPII. I saw it once, that was it. And we
all know how I feel about Eggbert...

-Joe

hi there,
What do we have to do? Please explain.

In a message dated 10/19/01 4:39:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< What was good though was "Spy Kids". Yes, I'm serious - it was really a
great movie (even had Cheech Marin). >>

Yeah, I thought Spy Kids was surprisely great. I enjoyed it the whole way
through, and it doesn't bore.

-Joe

In a message dated 10/19/01 10:41:39 PM Central Daylight Time,
kidro85@... writes:

<< hi there,
What do we have to do? Please explain. >>

I guess you send an E-mail and wait. that's what I'm doing.

-Joe

They sure are Joe.

But I must ask you all a question - have you ever been involvedin one of
these email scemes and got the prize it promised.

Call me cynical, but there is something about the line:

"Fox Company will send us a bunch of copies of DVD and VHS. I'm sure we will
have enough copies of DVD and VHS for all the team members."

that really maks me wonder how many DVDs and VHS will be made available -
and the promoter is left with the ability to say "Whoops, they did not send
enugh - sorry".

So what can you lose?

Well, your privacy for one and the priacy of all the people you email.

It is likely this is just a ploy to generate an email list. You know, the
lists that are responsible for you getting all the junk mail? At worst, it
could even be a list for the latest internet bug to be sent to.

Ken Taylor, cold you please investigate using the appropriate channels?

I also suggest you all ring Fox (or elect someone to) for verification
because this really does not sound right to me.

And yes, you suredo have something to lose if it is a fraud.

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CheeseGOTAS@... [CheeseGOTAS@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 20 October 2001 13:32
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: planet of the apes street team
>
>
> Sign me up. I sent you an E-mail about it, and this looks to be a pretty
> cool deal. Free things are the BEST things in life, eh?
>
> -Joe
>
>
>
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>
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Michael Whitty wrote:
'Ken Taylor, cold you please investigate using the appropriate channels?'

No, to be honest, I couldn't be bothered.
If this marketing company who have been ( supposedly) employed by Fox to
generate publicity for the DVD release of the new movie want me to open my
address book to do so, they'd have to pay me more than the price of a $20 DVD to
do it.
I also choose not buy clothing with a manufacturers' logo emblazoned across them
for the same reason.
Best,
KEN

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They sure are Joe.

But I must ask you all a question - have you ever been involvedin one of
these email scemes and got the prize it promised.

Call me cynical, but there is something about the line:

"Fox Company will send us a bunch of copies of DVD and VHS. I'm sure we will
have enough copies of DVD and VHS for all the team members."

that really maks me wonder how many DVDs and VHS will be made available -
and the promoter is left with the ability to say "Whoops, they did not send
enugh - sorry".

So what can you lose?

Well, your privacy for one and the priacy of all the people you email.

It is likely this is just a ploy to generate an email list.  You know, the
lists that are responsible for you getting all the junk mail?  At worst, it
could even be a list for the latest internet bug to be sent to.

Ken Taylor, cold you please investigate using the appropriate channels?

I also suggest you all ring Fox (or elect someone to) for verification
because this really does not sound right to me.

And yes, you suredo have something to lose if it is a fraud.

Michael

Well said. And it also seems fraudelent to me, because I thought it was said that it won't be available on VHS except at the rental price (i.e. for video stores, not for mass consumer consumption,) and that the "affordable" (consumer priced) version would only be on DVD. So how can they be promising VHS tapes of something that isn't going to be mass-market produced on VHS?

Ok, maybe I am wrong on it's availability on VHS, I'm not saying I'm right about it. But in any case, this whole thing does seem pretty fake. Follow Whitty's advice, and at least be cautious before acting here. At the least, it's a definite way to get a giant email list.....At worst, who knows what...??<.html

Well, they have a pretty good web site but that doesn't mean anything.
Looks like they're more into creating a street buzz for music to sell CDs.
If Fox is relying on them they must not hold high hopes for the DVD.

.htmlIn a message dated 10/19/01 9:37:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

I've never seen "Gwangi", or "Jurassic 3" for that matter. I've just heard JP3 ain't so good.

                                                                      - - - - Jeff



It was better than JP2.  Watch it when it comes to DVD.  "Gwangi" isn't really all that good, but I like the EFX, music, and Franciscus (Yes, I liked James Franciscus!!!!   Is that so wroooooong?!!).

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/19/01 9:52:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

It's out on DVD, silly. When's the last time you were in a video store?

I haven't been in at least two weeks.  Listen, Veetus Excretious, there's more important things than movies and DVDs, you know!

WHAT AM I SAYING?!!!!    That was a thought-projection from some mutant!  Ignore it!

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/19/01 9:53:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

I got an e-mail from Meimi, who I guess runs it. She said the first "contest" starts next week. I guess we're supposed to e-mail websites, friends and groups to let them know about the imminent release. She said people outside the U.S. are welcome and that there's plenty of DVDs/VHSs for all. That means Rory will have to send an e-mail to this group saying this DVD is a must, you won't be complete without it. I can't wait.

                                                                     - - - - Jeff



You see what the new POTA is going to end up doing to me!  Turning me into a hypocrite!   Well, the things men do for free give-aways!   Hey, if Fox can afford to just give these things away, imagine how cheap it must be to produce this crap!

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/19/01 10:41:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rhandley@... writes:

Howdy, ya'll,

Perusing Terry's website, I found a notation of a short story called
"Invasion of the Apes," originally published in Brazil and then translated
into English.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Rich

Yeah, it's about an invasion of the apes.<.html

>From: Haristas@...
>Subject: Re: Invasion of the Apes
>In a message dated 10/19/01 10:41:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>rhandley@... writes:
>> Howdy, ya'll,
>> Perusing Terry's website, I found a notation of a short story called
>> "Invasion of the Apes," originally published in Brazil and then translated
>> into English.
>> Does anyone know anything about this?
>> Rich
>Yeah, it's about an invasion of the apes.

Oh, I see -- thanks, that cleared things up for me fully.

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From: mlccougar@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 12:29 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Planet of the apes street team CREDIBILITY

They sure are Joe.

But I must ask you all a question - have you ever been involvedin one of
these email scemes and got the prize it promised.

Call me cynical, but there is something about the line:

"Fox Company will send us a bunch of copies of DVD and VHS. I'm sure we will
have enough copies of DVD and VHS for all the team members."

that really maks me wonder how many DVDs and VHS will be made available -
and the promoter is left with the ability to say "Whoops, they did not send
enugh - sorry".

So what can you lose?

Well, your privacy for one and the priacy of all the people you email.

It is likely this is just a ploy to generate an email list.  You know, the
lists that are responsible for you getting all the junk mail?  At worst, it
could even be a list for the latest internet bug to be sent to.

Ken Taylor, cold you please investigate using the appropriate channels?

I also suggest you all ring Fox (or elect someone to) for verification
because this really does not sound right to me.

And yes, you suredo have something to lose if it is a fraud.

Michael

Well said. And it also seems fraudelent to me, because I thought it was said that it won't be available on VHS except at the rental price (i.e. for video stores, not for mass consumer consumption,) and that the "affordable" (consumer priced) version would only be on DVD. So how can they be promising VHS tapes of something that isn't going to be mass-market produced on VHS?

Ok, maybe I am wrong on it's availability on VHS, I'm not saying I'm right about it. But in any case, this whole thing does seem pretty fake. Follow Whitty's advice, and at least be cautious before acting here. At the least, it's a definite way to get a giant email list.....At worst, who knows what...??

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 3:50 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Good Movies

In a message dated 10/19/01 9:52:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

It's out on DVD, silly. When's the last time you were in a video store?

I haven't been in at least two weeks.  Listen, Veetus Excretious, there's more important things than movies and DVDs, you know!

WHAT AM I SAYING?!!!!    That was a thought-projection from some mutant!  Ignore it!

-- Rory

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"Invasion of the Apes" is a short story written by Luiz Adami, a
journalist from Brazil. He wrote a book called "The Only Good Human is a
Dead Human". He's been to the U.S. a couple times recently. He promoted the
book at Starcon '98 and was made up as an ape by Bill Blake, then we all
went to the Fox ranch. He's currently creating an "Apes" museum in Brazil.

-
- - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Handley" <rhandley@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:15 PM
Subject: [pota] Invasion of the Apes


> Howdy, ya'll,
>
> Perusing Terry's website, I found a notation of a short story called
> "Invasion of the Apes," originally published in Brazil and then translated
> into English.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this?
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

There's two scripts by Rod Serling, "Episode One" and "Episode Two". (Hey,
George Lucas stole his titles!). I think they were serialized in "Ape
Chronicles".

-
- - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Handley" <rhandley@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:32 PM
Subject: [pota] Un-used scripts


> Another quick question -- I have the unused scripts "Hostage" and "A
Fallen
> God" and was wondering if there are other unused scripts from the POTA-TV
> series floating around out there that I should get my hands on. Anyone
> know of any?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.htmlIn a message dated 10/20/01 9:07:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Hey, if Fox can afford to just give these things away, imagine how cheap it must be to produce this crap!

If it's a "contest" I doubt any of us will ever see a freeby, well, except for Alex.  
I certainly don't know anyone to promote it to.  Well, except for Alex.
Talk about coals to Newcastle!



Hey, let's just all promote it among ourselves!  Who's to know?

-- Rory<.html

.htmlIn a message dated 10/20/01 10:59:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rhandley@... writes:

>From: Haristas@...
>Subject: Re: Invasion of the Apes
>In a message dated 10/19/01 10:41:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>rhandley@... writes:
>> Howdy, ya'll,
>> Perusing Terry's website, I found a notation of a short story called
>> "Invasion of the Apes," originally published in Brazil and then translated
>> into English.
>> Does anyone know anything about this?
>> Rich

>Yeah, it's about an invasion of the apes.

Oh, I see -- thanks, that cleared things up for me fully.

You're welcome!  Let me know if I can be of any further ASS-istance.

(Hey, it made me laugh!)  Seriously, I think Jeff Krueger might know what you're talking about.  He's played host to this Brazilian dude out in California.

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.htmlIn a message dated 10/20/01 11:32:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

 "Invasion of the Apes" is a short story written by Luiz Adami, a
journalist from Brazil. He wrote a book called "The Only Good Human is a
Dead Human". He's been to the U.S. a couple times recently. He promoted the
book at Starcon '98 and was made up as an ape by Bill Blake, then we all
went to the Fox ranch. He's currently creating an "Apes" museum in Brazil.

                                                                          -
- - - Jeff

See, I knew Jeffery would come to the rescue.   But I think the guy wants to know what the story is about -- other than an invasion of the apes!

-- Rory<.html