In a message dated 1/9/02 1:50:16 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel there is only the original and that's fine. The big deal is there are others who have great memories of the sequels and the TV show and Roddy was a big part of those memories.

I LOVED THEM ALL!  Don't care what you or anyone else thinks, don't care if you call them corny, meaningless, substandard, crap....I LOVED THEM ALL! including the tv series!  (and some of the the stuff on that show was laughable.)  Surely within this group we don't need to defend ourselves just for liking the *>&@( movies (and series), do we?  

  LordTZer0@... wrote:

How about Nova's underwear?

That's a good question!  How about Nova's underware?
Where is that I wonder?  You don't suppose that's in a Planet Hollwood somewhere, do ya?

God help you all.

LordTZer0@... wrote:

 

Other than Cameron's ALIENS, most of the sequels out there absolutely STINK!

You must be talking Sci Fi flicks here Pat.
Godfather II was damn good.
Though the less said about III the better.

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Haristas@... wrote:

 In a message dated 1/9/02 8:20:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, daniel225nma@... writes:
 
 

> You limeys are all afraid of guns anyway!
> So I don't think any of you are likely to take on a gorilla with a
hammer!

Us limeys aren't afraid of guns, we just think it's best to make them
illegal incase schoolkids get their hands on them in order to blow
away their classmates. Oh and incase Gorlilla warmongers get hold of
them too!!

Daniel
 
 
 
 

I guess I'll add my two cents to this.  I think the attitudes in this country (U.S.) about guns is ridiculous, and that most guns should be outlawed.  Guns don't kill people, people kill people -- SO WHY THE FUCK SHOULD IT BE SO EASY FOR THEM TO GET GUNS?!!!!

Look at the planet of the apes movies -- guns, guns, guns!  Cornelius and Zira come to the U.S. -- and end up shot!

-- Rory

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Haristas@... wrote:

 In a message dated 1/9/02 9:16:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
 
 

Speaking of which! -- Some working Ape guns would look great in my collection!

Speaking of which!! -- When I see those wooden ape rifles from BENEATH I couldn't care less about them.  Where Oh Where are the jet black, glossy gorilla rifles from the original?  That would be a cool collectible.

Okay, here's what would get me excited to see, touch, hold or own from the original movie (and the original items, not reproductions).  The Icarus spaceship, either full size or the little guy, the Lawgiver statue (full size or just the courtroom bust), the little Lawgiver statue from Dr. Zaius' office, Cornelius' map, the gorilla rifles, the astronaut's backpacks, and -- if I must include an article of clothing -- Dr. Zaius' jacket (which Apemania has, I think.) and, I guess, one of the astronaut's jackets (those are actually cool looking, and I'd buy a reproduction of one of them -- in fact, I don't know why someone hasn't done that?  They could be worn on the street.  Maybe Jeff could suggest that to Apemania?).

-- Rory

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> Hey Helen
>
> Feel free to give us the whole 500 words.
>
> Michael

Haristas@... wrote:

 In a message dated 1/9/02 5:37:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, kentaylor@... writes:
 
 

Your hero Chuck obviously has a different opinion Rory.
Best,
KEN

In real life he's NOT my hero.  Don't get me started on ol' Chuck!

-- Rory

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What's the big deal?  So this was worn by McDowall in ESCAPE through the TV show, and by Watson in BENEATH, but it's not like any of those movies are the classic that the original is.

I can see what Rory's saying here.  Though having a Kim ESCAPE costume would be prety be cool, and nothing to sneeze at, it couldn't touch the original!  It was in that brand new looking lime green.  And though the Roddy original never had the richness of color in the Kim, it did have the leather like it.  I think Rory's on to something here.

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In a message dated 1/9/02 2:50:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Quite frankly, Roddy was pretty much a second banana in the original.

Yes, he was!!  Never said he wasn't.  The original is above all a Charlton Heston flick -- and that's the way I like it!  You all admit that Heston's absence from BENEATH hurts that movie.  I think that that is because what happens to Heston's Taylor in the original is what makes that movie interesting and 'adult,' and that Heston was right that after the conclusion of PLANET there really isn't any more story to tell -- that is a story with a point--and that the sequels are just 'further adventures among the monkeys' that are rather pointless and often silly.  Look at the huge mistake Fox made with the new movie, the Davidson character is a nothing, he's no misanthrope or anything, his character doesn't develop and so the story has no point and is silly.

But as Dr. Zaius says in BENEATH, "Now enough of this nonsense!"

-- Rory
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In a message dated 1/9/02 6:43:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Godfather II was damn good.

"The Godfather Part II" is probably the best sequel ever made ("Bride of Frankenstein" being the runner-up), and one of the best movies ever made.  And no, Jeff, I wouldn't be impressed if somebody showed me the hat that Al Pacino wore.  I'm into movies, not clothes.

-- Rory

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In a message dated 1/9/02 8:20:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, daniel225nma@... writes:

> You limeys are all afraid of guns anyway!
> So I don't think any of you are likely to take on a gorilla with a
hammer!

Us limeys aren't afraid of guns, we just think it's best to make them
illegal incase schoolkids get their hands on them in order to blow
away their classmates. Oh and incase Gorlilla warmongers get hold of
them too!!

Daniel

I guess I'll add my two cents to this.  I think the attitudes in this country (U.S.) about guns is ridiculous, and that most guns should be outlawed.  Guns don't kill people, people kill people -- SO WHY THE FUCK SHOULD IT BE SO EASY FOR THEM TO GET GUNS?!!!!

Look at the planet of the apes movies -- guns, guns, guns!  Cornelius and Zira come to the U.S. -- and end up shot!

-- Rory

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Subject: Re: [pota] Re: So there!

"The Godfather Part II" is probably the best sequel ever made ("Bride of Frankenstein" being the runner-up),

Yes!  Despite a bit of silliness, The Little People, and Dwight Fry coming back only to be thrown off the castle again, I like Bride better than the original!  The Monster speaks, and has some rather poignant things to say, despite a rather limited vocab.  Eilsa Lancaster has a great dual role.  A really cool blooper, Dr. Frankenstein reappearing back in the castle after fleeing . . . And that haunting musical score.  Four thumbs up!

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In a message dated 1/9/02 4:59:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

When I see those wooden ape rifles from BENEATH I couldn't care less about them.

Yeah, but that little sub gun was cool.  And Ursus' pistol wasn't bad either!

veetus@... wrote:

  Rory has an Ursus! He wasn't in the original! I bet Rory's has stains on it too. And Ursus' underwear. So there!                                                              - - - Jeff    

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 In a message dated 1/9/02 4:59:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
 
 

 

When I see those wooden ape rifles from BENEATH I couldn't care less about them.

 

Yeah, but that little sub gun was cool.  And Ursus' pistol wasn't bad either!

Yeah, my Ursus Medicom likes them.

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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 3:41 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: So there!

Other than Cameron's ALIENS, most of the sequels out there absolutely STINK!

You must be talking Sci Fi flicks here Pat.
Godfather II was damn good.
Though the less said about III the better.

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>
> > Other than Cameron's ALIENS, most of the sequels out there absolutely STINK!
>
> You must be talking Sci Fi flicks here Pat.
> Godfather II was damn good.
> Though the less said about III the better.

> Your hero Chuck obviously has a different opinion Rory.
> Best,
> KEN
>
> Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 1/9/02 8:20:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > daniel225nma@h... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >> > You limeys are all afraid of guns anyway!
> >> > So I don't think any of you are likely to take on a gorilla with a
> >>
> >> hammer!
> >>
> >> Us limeys aren't afraid of guns, we just think it's best to make
> >> them
> >> illegal incase schoolkids get their hands on them in order to blow
> >> away their classmates. Oh and incase Gorlilla warmongers get hold of
> >>
> >> them too!!
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I guess I'll add my two cents to this. I think the attitudes in this
> > country (U.S.) about guns is ridiculous, and that most guns should be
> > outlawed. Guns don't kill people, people kill people -- SO WHY THE
> > FUCK SHOULD IT BE SO EASY FOR THEM TO GET GUNS?!!!!
> >
> > Look at the planet of the apes movies -- guns, guns, guns! Cornelius
> > and Zira come to the U.S. -- and end up shot!
> >
> > -- Rory

> In a message dated 1/9/02 6:31:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
>
> > In
> > the original movies there was a defined social order. There was a
> > leading, enlightened group (orangutans), the trained working class
> > (chimps), and the warriors/police (gorillas).
> >
>
> I think that in the original movie (and the Boulle book) the orangutans were
> the establishment leaders, keepers of 'offical knowledge' and such, but
> rather than enlightened, more closed-minded and intolerant, the chimpanzees
> were the intellectual, progressive and liberal class, and the gorillas were
> either the law enforcers (because of their size, I guess) or manual laborers
> (again because of their size and strength).
>
> Here's how I think the apes' social order developed in the ORIGINAL TIMELINE.
> Remember Cornelius in PLANET mentions in the cave 'carnivorous gorillas'
> that lived roughly thirteen hundred years before. Well, it's highly unlikely
> that anything would turn gorillas carnivorous. The original's screenwriters
> must be forgiven their ignorance. We now know enough about chimpanzees to
> know that it's they that can turn carnivorous, and that besides man and the
> ants, chimpanzees wage war. I think that originally it took hundreds of
> years for the apes to develop the power of speech, probably while under the
> servitude of man. (In fact, for this to happen in the time scale we're
> looking at, genetic 'enhancement' by man would be a must.) As to whether
> they overthrew man and this is why a nuclear Armageddon happened, or if the
> Armageddon happened between the surviving nations of man and it had nothing
> to do with the apes, I don't know. Even the film series is fuzzy about this.
> Anyway, I don't think that after civilization was destroyed things were the
> way they were in BATTLE. I like to think that there was a period of ape
> barbarity (and I think this is the stage that the makers of the new movie
> were trying to depict), and that it was the chimpanzees that were the most
> barbaric and even murderous. (In fact, I like to think that instead of
> hunting other apes, the chimpanzees probably hunted man for meat.
> Chimpanzees are more powerful than a human, but would have trouble with other
> apes.) Finally the orangutans, perhaps with the 'enlightened' leadership of
> one such as the Lawgiver, got together with the gorillas and organized
> themselves into a force that could bring the chimpanzees under control. This
> the gorillas did because of thier larger size and strength, but with a
> reliance on the orangutans for their cunning. The chimpanzees were thus
> subjugated and a period of a highly repressive society started that lasted
> for hundreds of years. History was re-written (as the sacred scrolls), with
> the orangutans as the authoritative class, the gorillas as the enforcement
> class, and the chimpanzees into the working class that would then develop
> into the business and academic classes. When Taylor lands on the planet of
> the apes, the ape society is just coming out of this 'dark age' and we see
> that even though it's still a 'police state' the chimpanzees are starting to
> question the established doctrine of the orangutans.
>
> Anyway, that's what I like to ponder, rather than try to make sense of the
> inconsistencies between the sequels.
>
> -- Rory

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sand_hill_school [sand_hill_school@...]
> Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2002 10:28
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Tell us more....
>
>
> --- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > Hey Helen
> >
> > Feel free to give us the whole 500 words.
> >
> > Michael
>
> OK, Michael.
>
> As mentioned before, the social order (POTA 2001) is all wrong. In
> the original movies there was a defined social order. There was a
> leading, enlightened group (orangutans), the trained working class
> (chimps), and the warriors/police (gorillas). I think that in the
> new movie, the roles are too confused.
>
> In the remake, humans are not "dumb" in any sense. How did
> the apes manage to overtake the humans? Although hyper and vicious
> (gene-spliced, chromosome enhanced), they still appear to lack the
> intelligence of the humans (and appear less "evolved" than
> Zira & Cornelius). And, lets face it; humans AREN'T the
> strongest or
> the most cunning of all animals. We just have some intellectual and
> social advantages that give us a place of status over the animals.
> (Per Grampa Thade: Invention/Technology) Even though the humans
> became somewhat wimpy, they should have maintained some sort of
> backbone, having been the ones in charge in the first place.
>
> And, WHY did the apes revolt? The crew wasn't mistreating them
> onboard the Oberon. In fact, they were befriending them (note Leo
> Davidson's desire to save Pericles). They treated them well!
> It was a result of the genetic mutation, not an intelligent decision.
>
> The movie ignored basic ape law – Ape shall not kill ape.
> The "homing contraption" was weak. CA LI MA was way
> contrived. A little more science would have been interesting. The
> story didn't follow leads that it set for itself – seems to
> get lost
> in its own script occasionally. The movie seems to have been drawn
> on a premise, not a story.
>
> On it's own, it's a remake of a good story (Pierre Boulle),
> updated. The idea of time not traveling in a straight line is okay.
> (You really might not "get it" if it weren't for the DVD
> insert.)
> Thade was a believable enough character. I didn't like him. (A
> response to an artistic quality?) I think the ending was flawed.
>
> There is a lot of very nice creative work in the movie. (Visual
> mostly) But, since I am not in the business, I don't feel drawn
> to protect or uplift any particular artist. I assume the darkness
> was meant to hide the tricks.
>
> I don't think this really counts as a POTA movie. I tend to think of
> the POTA movies as five chapters in the same story. I think it's
> unfortunate that they didn't just give it another name.
>
> --H
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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In a message dated 1/9/02 8:34:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

  But the story had already been told in the original "Frankenstein". It was only further adventures among the zombies.

                                                                - - - Jeff

Well, at least Karloff didn't pull a Heston and came back to do it.

-- Rory

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Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Tell us more....

In a message dated 1/10/02 5:21:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

At any rate, given that there WERE
carnivorous gorillas in the NYC region around 2650 or so, that at
least would explain why the Ape society required an army: though "Ape
shall not kill ape", that probably doesn't apply when cannibalistic
apes are trying to kill you. The gorilla army would be needed to fight
off the flesh-eaters.
Just my two cents, folks.

Patrick Michael Tilton
EARTH-TIME 01-10-2002

Hey, you got somethin' against gorillas?!   I can't imagine gorillas ever turning to killing other creatures to get meat.  It's just not in their nature.  Don't you watch Animal Planet? 

-- Rory

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Michael Whitty wrote:

  Hi Kiddies.Just saw this on ebay.  It is a very good POTA collectible to have and is being sold by "sausey".  I wonder if this is Christopher Sausville?http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1059924639Michael 

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Subject: Re: [pota] Re: So there!

In a message dated 1/10/02 12:51:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Heston came back to do "Beneath"! And both he and Karloff get blown up in their respective sequels.

                                                          - - - - Jeff

Oh, Jeff, now you know damn well that Heston only came back for as short a period as he could and he didn't give a damn about the movie!

-- Rory

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Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:31 PM

Subject: [pota] Is this Mr Sauseville?

 Hi Kiddies.

 

Just saw this on ebay.  It is a very good POTA collectible to have and is being sold by "sausey".  I wonder if this is Christopher Sausville?

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1059924639

 

Michael

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
> Sent: Friday, 11 January 2002 8:14
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Mr Sauseville & The Game
>
>
>
>
> I don't see any takers on that item.
>
> I just got the game for $11 bucks!
> But I can't get it to load.
> Every time I get to the second disc it messes up and won't load.
> Says it can't find the path file or something!
> What's that? Anyone had this difficulty?

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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:55 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: So there!

In a message dated 1/10/02 10:03:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

I agree, "Bride of Frankenstein" is one of the best "genre" sequels ever, but a good sequel has nothing to do with the star returning.

When did I ever say it did have anything to do with a star returning?

Heston would've been missed but a great script and no chuck would've made

"Beneath" worthwhile. 

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Subject: [pota] Something for Rory

Maybe you would rather dress up in this Rory?

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1500973010

 

Jeff, is this for sale by the same guy sellin Roddy #1?

 

Brian, have you seen these?  What happened to those feet?

 

Michael

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> I think the best moment in CONQUEST is when Caesar witnesses the
> brutalizing of a messenger ape (named Aldo... even though he's a
> chimpanzee! The DVD subtitler mistakenly names him "Otto", which
> sounds similar to "Aldo"; I wonder how many POTA fans out there
> realize that in addition to the "mythic" character "Aldo" mentioned by
> Cornelius in ESCAPE--who was the first ape to say "No" to a human--and
> the gorilla played by Claude Akins in BATTLE, there's this "3rd" Aldo
> in CONQUEST: a chimpanzee?)

>
> Interesting :) I know the Marvel magazine was unable to get the rights to
> do the TV series or the cartoon in comic form.

> Yeah, I've got both these posters plus for the other films also. As a
> rule I don't collect APE posters ( no room to display them) but I've had
> these since I was a kid.

> Yes, that site was really cool. Besides what you mentioned, he had
> behind-the-scenes photos of sets from the original, including interiors of
> the spaceship with different sections removed. Too bad the site isn't up
> anymore. Or is it?

> I think we're all into movies or we wouldn't be here. You collect movie
>posters. Someone might ask why you waste money and space on old pieces of
>paper. It's no different with costumes. And for the record, the greatest
>sequel was Jesus, sequel to God.

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Subject: [pota] Jacobs on AMC

To any here that have AMC.  It's kind of like Arthur P. Jacobs day today.  They showed "Doctor Dolittle" last night and this afternoon, they're re-running "Behind the Planet of the Apes" tonight and early tomorrow morning, and next Wednesday they'll be showing Jacobs' little-known "The Chairman" with Gregory Peck.  I'll be watching that one -- it also has music by Jerry Goldsmith.  Maybe Jeff will watch too.

-- Rory

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  Been there, done that. Although if they show "The Chairman" letterboxed I'd tape it. I taped the letterboxed versions of Jacobs' "Goodbye Mr. Chips" and "What A Way to Go" (Jacobs' best non-Ape film) off AMC. I'm disillusioned that AMC shows commercials now and I think shows cut versions of their films. Natalie T. gave me the press book for "Chairman" it's actually a little book like a book of Chinese proverbs. But I thought "The Chairman" stunk.

                                                          - - - - Jeff

 

 

          

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Subject: [pota] Jacobs on AMC

To any here that have AMC.  It's kind of like Arthur P. Jacobs day today.  They showed "Doctor Dolittle" last night and this afternoon, they're re-running "Behind the Planet of the Apes" tonight and early tomorrow morning, and next Wednesday they'll be showing Jacobs' little-known "The Chairman" with Gregory Peck.  I'll be watching that one -- it also has music by Jerry Goldsmith.  Maybe Jeff will watch too.

-- Rory

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> Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:
>> Yes, that site was really cool. Besides what you mentioned, he had
>> behind-the-scenes photos of sets from the original, including interiors of
>> the spaceship with different sections removed. Too bad the site isn't up
>> anymore. Or is it?
>
> If it has disappeared, there is a website you can try (if you know the URL
> it used to use) called www.web.archive.org or something like that, which has
> actually archived a lot of the internet going back a few years. It might
> have something left from the site.
>
> Alan
>

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In a message dated 1/11/02 7:33:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

   We should get in touch with Fox about their plans for the 2003 5-star DVD of "Apes", as far as extras. We've already talked about cut scenes they should look for. I'd like to see them go to the Jacobs archives and develop his screen tests for "Dune" and "Journey of the Oceanauts". They're just sittin' there, as far as I know undeveloped. Otherwise they'll probably just throw on the makeup test , etc. we've already seen if they don't get fresh ideas. I say commentary tracks for all 5 films! Are you with me?

                                                        - - - - Jeff

Well, I've said what I'd like included before.  The problem with commentary tracks now for the APES films is "by whom?"    Most everybody's dead now.  As far as getting in touch with Fox goes -- who do you get in touch with?

Has anybody got the M*A*S*H 5-Star DVD yet.  I have it on the way from Amazon.  Looks like it might be interesting.

-- Rory

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> I'd say a commentary track with J. Lee Thompson (and an optional

> In a message dated 1/10/02 5:21:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
>
>
> > At any rate, given that there WERE
> > carnivorous gorillas in the NYC region around 2650 or so, that at
> > least would explain why the Ape society required an army: though "Ape
> > shall not kill ape", that probably doesn't apply when cannibalistic
> > apes are trying to kill you. The gorilla army would be needed to fight
> > off the flesh-eaters.
> > Just my two cents, folks.
> >
> > Patrick Michael Tilton
> > EARTH-TIME 01-10-2002
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Hey, you got somethin' against gorillas?! I can't imagine gorillas ever
> turning to killing other creatures to get meat. It's just not in their
> nature. Don't you watch Animal Planet?
>
> -- Rory

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From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Jacobs on AMC


> Jeff <veetus@...> wrote:
> > I'd say a commentary track with J. Lee Thompson (and an optional
> director's >cut) for "Conquest" and "Battle". Ted Post could do one for
> "Beneath",
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> I think Ted Post died not that long ago, didn't he?
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> Alan
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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 5:48 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Artistic License

In a message dated 1/12/02 7:16:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:

Kind of a weird visual interpretation of the Alpha-Omega Bomb...


Chris L.



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That looks like the Alpha/Omega bomb meets H.G. Wells' Time Machine, but who shot Taylor in the back with an arrow?  Ouch!!

-- Rory

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