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| Group: pota |
Message: 26115 |
From: libraryape |
Date: 2/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Favorite "Apes" fan moment |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26116 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Booth Coleman on "Frasier" last night |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26117 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 2/12/2003 |
| Subject: Conquest |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26118 |
From: mtotsky |
Date: 2/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Booth Coleman on "Frasier" last night |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26119 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/13/2003 |
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| Subject: CONQUEST: "Meep!" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26120 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST: "Meep!" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26121 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/13/2003 |
|
| Subject: Some interesting websites... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26122 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST: "Meep!" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26123 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST: "Meep!" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26124 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/13/2003 |
| Subject: I love you |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26125 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/14/2003 |
| Subject: News Corp's Biz Soars |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26126 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/14/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST: "Meep!" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26127 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 2/16/2003 |
| Subject: 20 years ago... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26128 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/16/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] 20 years ago... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26129 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 2/16/2003 |
| Subject: Re: 20 years ago |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26130 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: 20 years ago |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26131 |
From: Rich Handley |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1561 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26132 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/17/2003 |
|
| Subject: " ... from 20 years back... " What this REALLY means |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26133 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: Helena Bonham Carter Announces Pregnancy |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26134 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] " ... from 20 years back... " What this RE |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26135 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26136 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26137 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: Re: CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26138 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/18/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26139 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 2/18/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26140 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/18/2003 |
| Subject: "Ape" sales |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26141 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/19/2003 |
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| Subject: Re: CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26142 |
From: Matt |
Date: 2/20/2003 |
| Subject: New POTA Poster? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26143 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/22/2003 |
| Subject: new page added to tv show website |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26144 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/22/2003 |
| Subject: Simpsons toys going Ape? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26145 |
From: mark_nems |
Date: 2/23/2003 |
| Subject: FMC to show extended version of Battle again |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26146 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/26/2003 |
| Subject: OT -need some info re DVDs |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26147 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OT -need some info re DVDs |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26148 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OT -need some info re DVDs |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26149 |
From: Matt |
Date: 2/26/2003 |
| Subject: Cool Collectible |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26150 |
From: Dave B <4print@atlas.co.uk> |
Date: 2/27/2003 |
| Subject: Hmmmmm? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26151 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/27/2003 |
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| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OT -need some info re DVDs |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26152 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OT -need some info re DVDs |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26153 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/27/2003 |
|
| Subject: Re: OT -need some info re DVDs |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26154 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26155 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26156 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26157 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26158 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26159 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26160 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26161 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26162 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26163 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26164 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26165 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26166 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Is this getting through? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26167 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: OT - Enterprise Theme |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26168 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26169 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Is this getting through? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26170 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Is this getting through? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26171 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Does this happen to you? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26172 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Does this happen to you? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26173 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Does this happen to you? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26174 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes DVDs |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26175 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26176 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Does this happen to you? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26177 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26178 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26179 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26180 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/2/2003 |
| Subject: The King is dead, long live the King! (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26181 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/2/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The King is dead, long live the King! (OT) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26182 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/2/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The King is dead, long live the King! (OT) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26183 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/2/2003 |
| Subject: Montalban in 3D (OT) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26184 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The King is dead, long live the King! (OT) |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26185 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/6/2003 |
| Subject: A stacked deck |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26186 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/8/2003 |
| Subject: What the...? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26187 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] What the...? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26188 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] What the...? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26189 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Medicoms |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26190 |
From: kidro85@aol.com |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26191 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26192 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26193 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Medicoms |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26194 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Double Bubble |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26195 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26196 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/10/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26197 |
From: lordtzer0 |
Date: 3/10/2003 |
| Subject: You are invited |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26198 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/11/2003 |
| Subject: Quick! Get to the bookstore this month! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26199 |
From: Ron |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: POTA fans in Florida? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26200 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26201 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26202 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26203 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26204 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26205 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26206 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 3/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26207 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26208 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26209 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/14/2003 |
| Subject: Questions for Medicom |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26210 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Questions for Medicom |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26211 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Questions for Medicom |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26212 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26213 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26214 |
From: Ron |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: POTA fans in Florida? |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26115 |
From: libraryape |
Date: 2/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Favorite "Apes" fan moment |
.html>
> Other than that, the next best POTA moments (as a fan) would have
to
> be the release of the POTA flicks in widescreen format, the TV
series
> on DVD, and when I got an article published in the second issue
> of "APESFAN".
>
> Patrick
I know how you feel Patrick. Another ape moment for me was when Alex
Ruiz accepted my POTA "Destiny" Poem, stating it kick ass. For years
I have been receiving rejection letters from editors or publishers.
Never did I dream about getting my work accepted in this fashion.
Since then I've been writing pota poetry. Thanks to Alex.:0) <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26116 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Booth Coleman on "Frasier" last night |
.html.html In a message dated 2/12/03 12:20:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, MTotsky@... writes:
Did anyone catch TV's Dr. Zaius on last night's episode of "Frasier?"
Yes, I did, but what were YOU doing watching "Frasier" and not one of the hundreds of DVDs I've sent you?!!!!! Hmmmmmmm?????
-- Rory<.html
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26117 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 2/12/2003 |
| Subject: Conquest |
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.html .htmlThis bit of info (?) was posted on the other sight... I thought a few of you in here might be interested in seeing it... (Whether or not "the source" of this info is reliable, who knows...)
Evidently, the original ending to Conquest was shown to more than
just test audiences. Read the following very interesting message
(which was recently posted at
http://www.mhvf.net/forum/scifihorror/posts/124241108.html.
"What I want is for the original version of CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF
THE APES to be released on home video. Back in 1973, I had seen the
U.S. version four times at the on-base theaters on Okinawa, and I
wasn't expecting anything different when it played the off-base
Japanese theatrical circuit. So imagine my surprise to see alot more
bloody bullet hits during the ape riot near the end. And then came
the climax with Don Murray helpless under the gorillas, who began to
raise their rifle butts. I was expecting the previously seen ending
with that memorable line about "Although we are not human, we can be
humane." No such line this time, and Don Murray's head got bashed in
by the gorillas. Yikes! Now, please 20th Century Fox, release
that version."<.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26118 |
From: mtotsky |
Date: 2/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Booth Coleman on "Frasier" last night |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
<<Yes, I did, but what were YOU doing watching "Frasier" and not one
of the hundreds of DVDs I've sent you?!!!!! Hmmmmmmm?????>>
Actually, I watch "24" on Tuesdays and tape "Frasier" and then watch
it later. It's still one of my favorite shows and I try not to miss an
episode.
I did watch "The Magnificent Seven" tonight while my wife watched "The
Bachelorette." Look for the review of that over at Film Emporium
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/filmemporium/ for those of you who
don't know).
Cut me some slack, I've been watching these pretty quickly. Some of
these movies are quite long too.
Your pal <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26119 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/13/2003 |
|
| Subject: CONQUEST: "Meep!" |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Patrick, are you talking about the Playhouse Video versions? John
> Mermigas, a friend of mine whose very into the sound aspect of home
video says those are the best sound, particularly "Planet"
and "Conquest". I think he said they had the original soundtracks,
that were later lost. There's some sound FX in "Conquest" you don't
hear in later versions. - - - Jeff
*** I just checked the scene on DVD, and it's still there. Cue up
scene 5 on the DVD, and go to 15:14 on the clock; right after Armando
tells Caesar that "We must have an alternate plan, don't you see?"
You'll hear a distinctly audible "MEEP!" noise. Ever since I saw,
yes, the Playhouse Video version, this audio glitch has bugged the
bejeezus outta me. And it's STILL THERE, dammit!
I dunno. Maybe Roddy farted, and THAT's what got recorded! If so,
then both Roddy & Ricardo were consummate professionals in their
craft, since you'd think that they'd have cracked up in laughter at
that. I know that *I* would've laffed my ass off, had I been acting
in the scene.
Prob'ly just a glitch...
Actually, it kinda sounds like a trumpet with a "mute" in its bell
(you know, one of those cone-shaped things trumpeters stick in the
business end of their "axe" to muffle the sound and to make it
more "tinny"?). Just one "MEEP!" noise, and that's it.
I'll be damned if I know why or how it got there, but it IS there,
and they've never removed it. And it STILL bugs the shit out of me!
Every time I watch "CONQUEST" I can anticipate its imminent arrival.
"MEEP!"
Patrick
P.S. "MEEP!" <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26120 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST: "Meep!" |
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.html .htmlI've known of this "Meep!" sound in CONQUEST for some time. It's always been there and I think is in the original recording. As to what it is, I don't know.
About the sound on the 1995 Playhouse video VHS tapes. PLANET and BENEATH were both in mono, with PLANET's sound very hissy dispite being recorded in Hi-Fi. They did screw up the effects soundtrack during that desert sequence in BENEATH, but I wrote to Fox about it, never got a reply, but it was gone when the APES films were repackaged and price-reduced to $19.95 each in 1990. ESCAPE, CONQUEST and BATTLE all had Hi-Fi stereo soundtracks by Chase made for them for the Playhouse Video release, when they were released in 1990 PLANET and BENEATH had Chase stereo too. These same soundtracks were put on the first letterboxed laserdisc releases of PLANET, BENEATH, ESCAPE and CONQUEST (BATTLE never came out on LD). I guess these are also the soundtracks used in the Japanese LD Boxed Set.
Jeff's friend is wrong about the Playhouse Video cassettes having the best soundtrack for PLANET, but it is the last time the original mono soundtrack of the film was released. I have a pan & scan Japanese laserdisc of PLANET from 1985 which also has this mono mix. The music is much more upfront in the original mono than on the sound mix we now have on DVD. For instance, in PLANET when we first see Ape City. In the original mono you can hear Jerry Goldsmith's score quite well over the first shot of the city, but on DVD the effects track of the wagon passing by and apes walking drowns out the score. It's a little something that bugs me, as I think the music should be dominate, but I can live with it. Even in the Dolby Digital 5.1 sound mix on the Region 2 DVD the music level is too low at this point in PLANET. Check this out, Patrick.
-- Rory <.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26121 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/13/2003 |
|
| Subject: Some interesting websites... |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26122 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST: "Meep!" |
.html
.html
No, I think it was some Sound FX during the
ape takeover or something. I'll have to find my notes. That's why I've got to
finish those issues so I can get this stuff out there. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:54
PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST:
"Meep!"
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote: > Patrick,
are you talking about the Playhouse Video versions? John > Mermigas, a
friend of mine whose very into the sound aspect of home video says those
are the best sound, particularly "Planet" and "Conquest". I think he said
they had the original soundtracks, that were later lost. There's some
sound FX in "Conquest" you don't hear in later versions. - - -
Jeff
*** I just checked the scene on DVD, and it's still there. Cue up
scene 5 on the DVD, and go to 15:14 on the clock; right after Armando
tells Caesar that "We must have an alternate plan, don't you
see?"
You'll hear a distinctly audible "MEEP!" noise. Ever since I saw,
yes, the Playhouse Video version, this audio glitch has bugged the
bejeezus outta me. And it's STILL THERE, dammit!
I dunno. Maybe
Roddy farted, and THAT's what got recorded! If so, then both Roddy &
Ricardo were consummate professionals in their craft, since you'd think
that they'd have cracked up in laughter at that. I know that *I* would've
laffed my ass off, had I been acting in the scene.
Prob'ly just a
glitch...
Actually, it kinda sounds like a trumpet with a "mute" in its
bell (you know, one of those cone-shaped things trumpeters stick in the
business end of their "axe" to muffle the sound and to make it more
"tinny"?). Just one "MEEP!" noise, and that's it.
I'll be damned if I
know why or how it got there, but it IS there, and they've never removed
it. And it STILL bugs the shit out of me! Every time I watch "CONQUEST" I
can anticipate its imminent arrival.
"MEEP!"
Patrick
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"MEEP!"
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Yeah, I know the "meep" too. I think I
always assumed it was a ship or something (Armando says "cargoes of apes are
frequently unloaded at night"). It never bothered me, just added to the
atmosphere.
My friends are never wrong! I'll have to
look up what he said about the sndtracks. - - - Jeff
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Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes]
CONQUEST: "Meep!"
I've known of this "Meep!" sound in
CONQUEST for some time. It's always been there and I think is in the
original recording. As to what it is, I don't know.
About the
sound on the 1995 Playhouse video VHS tapes. PLANET and BENEATH were
both in mono, with PLANET's sound very hissy dispite being recorded in
Hi-Fi. They did screw up the effects soundtrack during that desert
sequence in BENEATH, but I wrote to Fox about it, never got a reply, but it
was gone when the APES films were repackaged and price-reduced to $19.95 each
in 1990. ESCAPE, CONQUEST and BATTLE all had Hi-Fi stereo
soundtracks by Chase made for them for the Playhouse Video release, when they
were released in 1990 PLANET and BENEATH had Chase stereo too. These
same soundtracks were put on the first letterboxed laserdisc releases of
PLANET, BENEATH, ESCAPE and CONQUEST (BATTLE never came out on LD). I
guess these are also the soundtracks used in the Japanese LD Boxed
Set.
Jeff's friend is wrong about the Playhouse Video cassettes having
the best soundtrack for PLANET, but it is the last time the original mono
soundtrack of the film was released. I have a pan & scan Japanese
laserdisc of PLANET from 1985 which also has this mono mix. The music is
much more upfront in the original mono than on the sound mix we now have on
DVD. For instance, in PLANET when we first see Ape City. In
the original mono you can hear Jerry Goldsmith's score quite well over the
first shot of the city, but on DVD the effects track of the wagon passing by
and apes walking drowns out the score. It's a little something that bugs
me, as I think the music should be dominate, but I can live with it.
Even in the Dolby Digital 5.1 sound mix on the Region 2 DVD the music level is
too low at this point in PLANET. Check this out, Patrick.
-- Rory
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Happy Valentine's Day! Who were POTA's
greatest lovers? Taylor and Nova (though we don't know for sure)? Cornelius and
Zira (they did, or we wouldn't have had the sequels)? Or the unrequited lovers
Burke and Fauna? Or maybe you TV fans pick Galen's parents, since they made him
possible? I'd say Urko and his wife, since she's the only gorilla girl I've
heard of. - - - Jeff
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Subject: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST:
"Meep!"
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote: > Patrick,
are you talking about the Playhouse Video versions? John > Mermigas, a
friend of mine whose very into the sound aspect of home video says those
are the best sound, particularly "Planet" and "Conquest". I think he said
they had the original soundtracks, that were later lost. There's some
sound FX in "Conquest" you don't hear in later versions. - - -
Jeff
*** I just checked the scene on DVD, and it's still there. Cue up
scene 5 on the DVD, and go to 15:14 on the clock; right after Armando
tells Caesar that "We must have an alternate plan, don't you
see?"
You'll hear a distinctly audible "MEEP!" noise. Ever since I saw,
yes, the Playhouse Video version, this audio glitch has bugged the
bejeezus outta me. And it's STILL THERE, dammit!
I dunno. Maybe
Roddy farted, and THAT's what got recorded! If so, then both Roddy &
Ricardo were consummate professionals in their craft, since you'd think
that they'd have cracked up in laughter at that. I know that *I* would've
laffed my ass off, had I been acting in the scene.
Prob'ly just a
glitch...
Actually, it kinda sounds like a trumpet with a "mute" in its
bell (you know, one of those cone-shaped things trumpeters stick in the
business end of their "axe" to muffle the sound and to make it more
"tinny"?). Just one "MEEP!" noise, and that's it.
I'll be damned if I
know why or how it got there, but it IS there, and they've never removed
it. And it STILL bugs the shit out of me! Every time I watch "CONQUEST" I
can anticipate its imminent arrival.
"MEEP!"
Patrick
P.S.
"MEEP!"
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News Corp's Biz Soars
News Corp on Wednesday reported a 58 percent increase in profit to $320 million on revenue of $4.7 billion during its second quarter, beating Wall Street expectations. The 20th Century Fox film division reported $255 million for the quarter versus $115 million for the year-ago period. Gains were primarily attributed to record-breaking DVD sales, particularly of the computer-animated film Ice Age. A special standout was the Fox News Channel, whose operating income more than tripled in the quarter.
Okay Fox, now take just a little of that money and do a special edition DVD of my favorite movie!
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You'll hear a distinctly audible "MEEP!" noise. Ever since I saw,
yes, the Playhouse Video version, this audio glitch has bugged the
bejeezus outta me. And it's STILL THERE, dammit!
Yeah, I think I know what that is. Roddy is trying to cry in that scene. And as you probably know he had a fairly prominent nose. Well, with a combination of, a little snot, some lose glue, sweat . . . I think he exhaled through his nose and it set up a resonant vibration in the appliance and the resulting vibration went -- Meep! <.html
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I know the reality is/was just clumbsy writing on Dehn's part, but I just gotta see if anyone has any "theories" on this one... How can it be 20 years from "The year of our Lord 1973" to the year "1991"?
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Well, it's 18 years but people often round
off to decades because they think in decade increments. I don't see any problem
with that. - - - Jeff
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Subject: [Planet of the Apes] 20 years
ago...
Ok, I was watching some
of CONQUEST the other night and came across a discrepancy... Armando tells
Caesar "After 20 years you've picked up evolved habits from me..." And later
on during the interrogation after Armando says "I run a circus" To which he's
give the (paraphrased) reply of "From 20 years back, when the two Apes
conceived a baby whose existance could have posed a threat to the entire human
race..."
I know the reality is/was just clumbsy writing on Dehn's
part, but I just gotta see if anyone has any "theories" on this one... How can
it be 20 years from "The year of our Lord 1973" to the year "1991"?
Any takers?
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Date: Sun Feb 16, 2003 1:36 pm
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Well, it's 18 years but people often round off to decades because they think in decade increments. I don't see any problem with that. - - - Jeff
That'd be true in the terms of the questioning of Armando, but when Armando refers to Caesar and the "20 years" when Caesar would only be 18 (or on the verge of being 18) then it's just weird... I mean he should know how old his foster son IS, and not round that age up...
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I totally agree, with Jeff and Cougar.
Jeff is right that people generalize and
round years up, but Cougar is right that when you refer to the age of a person
it is not normal to round up.
Again, Dehn was being sloppy I think.
Oh dear, I think I can hear Patrick coming
to explain it using Pythageros’ Theorum…..
Michael
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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re:
20 years ago
From: <veetus@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 16, 2003
1:36 pm
Subject: Re: [Planet of the
Apes] 20 years ago...
Well, it's 18 years but
people often round off to decades because they think in decade increments. I
don't see any problem with that. - - - Jeff
That'd be true in the terms of the questioning of Armando,
but when Armando refers to Caesar and the "20 years" when Caesar
would only be 18 (or on the verge of being 18) then it's just weird... I mean
he should know how old his foster son IS, and not round that age up...
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I've kind of been out of it for a while, as I'd gone in POTA overkill and
walked away from the discussion to focus on other hobbies. But now I'm
back and want to make sure I didn't miss anything -- aside from the novel
The Fall and the first two young adult novels, have any other POTA
stories/books been published that I need to track down?
Also, what did everyone think of The Fall? I finished it recently on a
long plane ride, and thought there was a surprising lack of apes in it, I
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.html*** One might think, at first, that only the opening credits sequence
takes place in 1991 (the superimposed "NORTH AMERICA, 1991" bit), and
that the actual events of the movie--from the helicopter flight in to
the end--take place in 1993. But when Armando takes Caesar to see the
Pet Memorial, it has the date "1983" on it, and Armando says
that "They all died, within a month, 8 years ago... every dog and cat
on Earth". The math is simple: 1983 + 8 = 1991. Therefore, when
Hoskyns says "from 20 years back", it's just him rounding off 18
years to the nearest decade.
Actually, though, he MIGHT be referring to when Armando first began
to run his own circus. Maybe "Armando's Sensational Circus" (as it
was called in ESCAPE) first began operations in 1971, two years
before the Ape-onauts landed. After all, it's only after Armando
says, "I run a circus" that Kolp says "We KNOW that", and Hoskyns
then says, "From 20 years back". The "20 years" in question is about
Armando's running of a circus.
It's only when Breck adds to the discussion that makes people assume
they're talking about the "20 years" being the interval between
ESCAPE and CONQUEST: "... from the year, Senor Armando, when the two
talking apes arrived on Earth, and conceived a baby whose survival
could have threatened the entire human race."
In other words, Breck is referencing the fact that Armando had been
running a circus for the last 20 years, INCLUDING the year--18 years
ago--when the Ape-onauts landed. Breck is inferring that this fact--
that Armando's circus was around 18 years ago (and had BEEN around
for 2 years prior to that year)--that the Ape-onauts might have
hidden their baby with him in his circus. And THAT is why Armando
makes reference to the fact that the "small chimpanzee" that the
authorities noted had been "legally certified to have been born a
month--a MONTH--before the talking apes arrived on Earth". If Armando
had only been running a circus for the last 12 years or so (from 1979
to 1991), then Breck would not have any grounds for suspecting that
his chimpanzee was a "changeling", a switcheroo from Zira &
Cornelius.
So, then, it isn't a "flub" at all. Nor is it a "discrepancy"
or "clumsy writing". The perception of it as such is the result of
the "clumsy assumption" that Hoskyns' line ("20 years back") was
about the Ape-onauts, rather than about the amount of time that
Armando has been running a circus. There isn't any piece of
information in ESCAPE (as far as I can recall) which contradicts the
notion that "Armando's Sensational/Old-Time Circus" has been run by
Armando for LONGER than 20 years (i.e. prior to 1971). Hoskyns--who
has undoubtedly gathered every piece of info on Armando that he could
find--only chimes in AFTER Armando mentions that he runs a circus...
and WHEN he says his line, it's in reference to this. Hence, we have
here "proof" that Armando began to run his circus only 2 years before
the events of ESCAPE take place.
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One of my first postings on this site (WAYYY back when!) dealt with
the "problem" of the various names of the son of Cornelius and Zira.
Zira named him "Milo" after their genius friend who'd been killed by
the gorilla in the next cage. But Armando calls him "Caesar" after
their helicopter lands, during their first dialogue scene, in the
stairwell from the Roof to the elevator which takes them down to City
proper. When "Caesar" picks his own name, after Breck buys him at the
Slave Auction, he picks the name "Caesar"--which would be STUPID if
it were the name of the ape Kolp's goons are searching for, the ape
who "allegedly" yelled out "Lousy human bastards!"
Milo/Caesar was exchanged for a FEMALE chimp--the one "legally
certified" to have been born a month before the Ape-onauts landed--
named "Salome", the daughter of Heloise. Armando--who, when the
police searched his circus, MUST have known about Zira's "switch"--
tells those policemen that it's the first chimpanzee ever to be born
in a circus... and tells them: "Look how he's grown!" Look how HE has
grown. Armando KNOWS then that it ain't the female Salome, but is
Zira's male chimp child.
What name would he have changed it to for the sake of the masses? If
he calls him "Caesar" in private--a name that Caesar knew would be
safe to "choose" when Breck gives him a book of names to choose from--
then what name would Armando have him known by when he has him do his
bareback riding in the circus shows? I suggested that he "re-named"
the supposed child of Heloise by the MASCULINE form of the
name: "Solomon". He would've had to come up with a plausible
explanation as to why a FEMALE chimp (delivered by Lewis Dixon) had
suddenly ceased to be female... so he might have said that the
initial identification of the child as "female" was a mistake, and
that when the mistake was discovered, they promptly changed "her"
name to the male equivalent: SALOME becomes SOLOMON. But, for some
reason, rather than continue to PRIVATELY call him by the name his
mother gave him--Milo--he, instead, gives him a different name:
Caesar. A name which he is NOT to mention outside of their foster
father-&-son relationship.
They must've also doctored the paperwork surrounding the "birth
certificate" records (if, that is, there WERE any such records), so
that the gender-change was not known. If it WERE known, then Kolp and
Hoskyns would have assuredly discovered it and used it to support
their speculation that the talking apes had switched their child with
Heloise's child.
You'll all notice that "Caesar" is never referred to by that name
when Armando is being interrogated. Neither Kolp nor Hoskyns nor
Breck nor MacDonald has any clue that the name "Caesar" is the name
by which Armando refers to his missing chimpanzee. It is a private,
secret name which Armando--and ONLY Armando--uses when he talks with
the Son of Zira. He doesn't honor Zira's wish that he be
called "Milo", for some reason. Why rename him "Caesar", when the
name Milo--if a "secret" name--would have been equally good?
Armando is a Roman Catholic; he gives "Baby Milo" a medallion in
honor of "the blessed Saint Francis" of Assisi, "who loved all
animals". Armando also believes in DESTINY, the UNALTERABLE WILL OF
GOD. He believes it's the will of God that the progeny of Zira and
Cornelius rule over Humanity. They came from the Future... from the
ONLY future that CAN be, in his estimation: the Future that God MUST
have intended for Mankind. Armando, having found himself in the care
of the surviving baby of those Ape-onauts, wants Mankind to be
dominated by apes who are like Cornelius and Zira. He wants to help
mold this future King into the type of king that will best rule over
others in a way which is "amenable" (pun intended!) to his Catholic
beliefs. But why "Caesar"?
In Dante's "INFERNO", Dante reiterates what he had said in his
previous political paper ("De Monarchia"): that it was the WILL OF
GOD that the "world" be ruled, politically, by an Emperor--by
a "Caesar"--and that the religious affairs of the world be in the
charge of the Papacy. The EMPIRE and the CHURCH were "supposed to be"
the Twin Pillars governing Mankind: the EMPIRE controlling/overseeing
the affairs of Mankind relating to THIS life, and the CHURCH
overseeing the affairs of Mankind relating to the NEXT life,
the "Afterlife". Dante railed against the political influence of the
Church, condemning the Pope of his day for having POLITICAL
ambitions, since Dante felt it was God's Will that the Pope be
restricted to ECCLESIASTICAL concerns, having Willed that the
political sphere be in the control of the Roman Emperors. Dante has
the ghost of Virgil prophesy about the coming of the "Greyhound" ("il
Veltro") who will drive the "she-wolf" ("la Lupa") back into Hell:
the She-Wolf is an obvious symbol of the corrupt Papacy, situated at
Rome (which was founded by Romulus who, with his brother Remus,
suckled at the teat of a she-wolf, according to legend). Dante's
prophesied "Greyhound" is also foretold by the beatified Beatrice at
the top of Mt. Purgatory: "he" is referred to by a Number, "the Five
Hundred Ten and Five" (scholars refer to "him" as the "DXV"). Just as
the Anti-Christ has the number "666" associated with his name (it
being the "number of his name"), so too does Dante's prophesied
Savior have a number associated with him. That number most probably
refers to the Second Coming of Christ: the Latin numerals "DXV"
standing for the Italian words "Dio" (God) and "Vomo" (Man), with
the "X" in the middle signifying both the Cross and the Greek
word "Christos" (the letter "Chi" in Greek looks like the Latin
letter "X": the emblem "XP" is called the "Chi-Rho", the first two
letters of the word "Christ" in Greek).
Dante's future Savior is foretold by the ghost of the pagan poet
Virgil and by the ghost of the Christian love-of-his-life Beatrice:
the latter by a cryptic number ("DXV"), contrasting with the number
of the Anti-Christ, and the former by a metaphorical animal ("the
Greyhound"). In the returned Jesus Christ, Dante saw the proper union
of the Roman Imperial power (the "Caesar") and the Roman Church
authority (the "Pope")--but BEFORE the return of Christ, these
positions of authority are supposed to remain separate, according to
Dante's beliefs. That's why he has the betrayers of both Jesus and of
Julius Caesar in the 3 mouths of Lucifer: Judas in the middle mouth,
head first getting chewed on eternally, and Brutus and Cassius in the
left and right mouths, feet-first getting munched on eternally.
Lucifer's 3 faces are a parody of the Trinity, and exemplify the
tripartite nature of the Church-State situation: there's only ONE
Church which Dante recognizes--the ROMAN Church--but there are TWO
halves of the Roman Empire, the Western (Rome) and the Eastern
(Constantinople).
What was I talking about? Oh yeah... Armando & Caesar.
Why rename "Milo" after Caesar? Well, this chimpanzee who will become
a King one day, Armando wants him to wield God-intended authority: as
a "Caesar", just as Dante talks about. Evidently, Armando doesn't
have a problem with him being an Ape! It's enough that he is
intelligent and can talk--a "gift" that his God must have intended
for him to have. Armando doesn't want him to be a "Caesar" like
Caligula, mind you; more like an emperor Constantine. Armando took
the TITLE ("Caesar"--what had been a name for Julius Caesar later
became a title for the Emperor of Rome) which symbolized the
Political Authority according to God's Will (from a Dantean
perspective) and gave it to that ape as a secret Name. And it was
THAT name which that ape chose on purpose from Breck's book of
names: "Caesar... a King".
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Incidentally, regarding the supposed "rounding-off" of numbers,
Taylor does this in PLANET regarding the distance of their "unnamed
star" from Earth and the amount of EARTH-TIME that they've aged
during their 18-month voyage. He first tells Landon that the distance
is "320 lightyears" and that it's been "2000 years, give or take a
decade"--although he specifically says that Landon is "2031 years
old", obviously subtracting Landon's birthyear (which must be 1947)
from the Earth year he saw on the EARTH-TIME clock (11-25-3978).
Later, Taylor tells him (again) that they're "300 lightyears" from
their precious planet. In this case, Taylor has "rounded down" the
EXACT distance (320) down to the nearest hundred. He also says his
loved ones have been dead for "20 centuries". Obviously, not knowing
any exact dates for the deaths of Landon's loved ones, Taylor rounds
it off to the nearest century.
But the CONQUEST bit about "20 years" is NOT rounding up to the
nearest decade. It's the duration of Armando's circus-running career,
which began in 1971--two years before ESCAPE takes place. And so, two
years into that career is what Breck is referring to when he
says "... from the year, Senor Armando, when the talking apes arrived
on Earth..."
Patrick
P.S. And the Pythagorean Theorem has NOTHING whatsoever to do with it!
*****************
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Well, it's 18 years but people often round off to decades because
they think in decade increments. I don't see any problem with that. -
- - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mlccougar@a...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:53 AM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] 20 years ago...
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>
> Ok, I was watching some of CONQUEST the other night and came
across a discrepancy... Armando tells Caesar "After 20 years you've
picked up evolved habits from me..." And later on during the
interrogation after Armando says "I run a circus" To which he's give
the (paraphrased) reply of "From 20 years back, when the two Apes
conceived a baby whose existance could have posed a threat to the
entire human race..."
>
> I know the reality is/was just clumbsy writing on Dehn's part,
but I just gotta see if anyone has any "theories" on this one... How
can it be 20 years from "The year of our Lord 1973" to the
year "1991"?
>
> Any takers?
>
>
>
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Celebrity News: 17th February 2003
Helena Bonham Carter Announces Pregnancy
Fight Club actress Helena Bonham Carter is pregnant with her first child by American film director Tim Burton. The pair met two years ago on the set of Planet of the Apes
, and at the time Helena was accused of stealing the Sleepy Hollow director from his long-term love Lisa Marie. A friend says, "It came as something of a surprise but a very welcome one. Helena and Tim are both rather eccentric but they make a great couple and could not be happier about the pregnancy." In the past, Helena has said of Tim, "I found him instantly intriguing. We are a perfect match. Tim and I are very serious. I would not rule out the possibility of us getting married."
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Date: 2/17/2003 |
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Subject: [Planet of the Apes] " ... from 20 years back... " What this
REALLY means
*** One might think, at first, that only the opening credits sequence
takes place in 1991 (the superimposed "NORTH AMERICA, 1991" bit), and
that the actual events of the movie--from the helicopter flight in to
the end--take place in 1993. But when Armando takes Caesar to see the
Pet Memorial, it has the date "1983" on it, and Armando says
that "They all died, within a month, 8 years ago... every dog and cat
on Earth". The math is simple: 1983 + 8 = 1991. Therefore, when
Hoskyns says "from 20 years back", it's just him rounding off 18
years to the nearest decade.
Actually, though, he MIGHT be referring to when Armando first began
to run his own circus. Maybe "Armando's Sensational Circus" (as it
was called in ESCAPE) first began operations in 1971, two years
before the Ape-onauts landed. After all, it's only after Armando
says, "I run a circus" that Kolp says "We KNOW that", and Hoskyns
then says, "From 20 years back". The "20 years" in question is about
Armando's running of a circus.
It's only when Breck adds to the discussion that makes people assume
they're talking about the "20 years" being the interval between
ESCAPE and CONQUEST: "... from the year, Senor Armando, when the two
talking apes arrived on Earth, and conceived a baby whose survival
could have threatened the entire human race."
In other words, Breck is referencing the fact that Armando had been
running a circus for the last 20 years, INCLUDING the year--18 years
ago--when the Ape-onauts landed. Breck is inferring that this fact--
that Armando's circus was around 18 years ago (and had BEEN around
for 2 years prior to that year)--that the Ape-onauts might have
hidden their baby with him in his circus. And THAT is why Armando
makes reference to the fact that the "small chimpanzee" that the
authorities noted had been "legally certified to have been born a
month--a MONTH--before the talking apes arrived on Earth". If Armando
had only been running a circus for the last 12 years or so (from 1979
to 1991), then Breck would not have any grounds for suspecting that
his chimpanzee was a "changeling", a switcheroo from Zira &
Cornelius.
So, then, it isn't a "flub" at all. Nor is it a "discrepancy"
or "clumsy writing". The perception of it as such is the result of
the "clumsy assumption" that Hoskyns' line ("20 years back") was
about the Ape-onauts, rather than about the amount of time that
Armando has been running a circus. There isn't any piece of
information in ESCAPE (as far as I can recall) which contradicts the
notion that "Armando's Sensational/Old-Time Circus" has been run by
Armando for LONGER than 20 years (i.e. prior to 1971). Hoskyns--who
has undoubtedly gathered every piece of info on Armando that he could
find--only chimes in AFTER Armando mentions that he runs a circus...
and WHEN he says his line, it's in reference to this. Hence, we have
here "proof" that Armando began to run his circus only 2 years before
the events of ESCAPE take place.
---------------------------------------------
One of my first postings on this site (WAYYY back when!) dealt with
the "problem" of the various names of the son of Cornelius and Zira.
Zira named him "Milo" after their genius friend who'd been killed by
the gorilla in the next cage. But Armando calls him "Caesar" after
their helicopter lands, during their first dialogue scene, in the
stairwell from the Roof to the elevator which takes them down to City
proper. When "Caesar" picks his own name, after Breck buys him at the
Slave Auction, he picks the name "Caesar"--which would be STUPID if
it were the name of the ape Kolp's goons are searching for, the ape
who "allegedly" yelled out "Lousy human bastards!"
Milo/Caesar was exchanged for a FEMALE chimp--the one "legally
certified" to have been born a month before the Ape-onauts landed--
named "Salome", the daughter of Heloise. Armando--who, when the
police searched his circus, MUST have known about Zira's "switch"--
tells those policemen that it's the first chimpanzee ever to be born
in a circus... and tells them: "Look how he's grown!" Look how HE has
grown. Armando KNOWS then that it ain't the female Salome, but is
Zira's male chimp child.
What name would he have changed it to for the sake of the masses? If
he calls him "Caesar" in private--a name that Caesar knew would be
safe to "choose" when Breck gives him a book of names to choose from--
then what name would Armando have him known by when he has him do his
bareback riding in the circus shows? I suggested that he "re-named"
the supposed child of Heloise by the MASCULINE form of the
name: "Solomon". He would've had to come up with a plausible
explanation as to why a FEMALE chimp (delivered by Lewis Dixon) had
suddenly ceased to be female... so he might have said that the
initial identification of the child as "female" was a mistake, and
that when the mistake was discovered, they promptly changed "her"
name to the male equivalent: SALOME becomes SOLOMON. But, for some
reason, rather than continue to PRIVATELY call him by the name his
mother gave him--Milo--he, instead, gives him a different name:
Caesar. A name which he is NOT to mention outside of their foster
father-&-son relationship.
They must've also doctored the paperwork surrounding the "birth
certificate" records (if, that is, there WERE any such records), so
that the gender-change was not known. If it WERE known, then Kolp and
Hoskyns would have assuredly discovered it and used it to support
their speculation that the talking apes had switched their child with
Heloise's child.
You'll all notice that "Caesar" is never referred to by that name
when Armando is being interrogated. Neither Kolp nor Hoskyns nor
Breck nor MacDonald has any clue that the name "Caesar" is the name
by which Armando refers to his missing chimpanzee. It is a private,
secret name which Armando--and ONLY Armando--uses when he talks with
the Son of Zira. He doesn't honor Zira's wish that he be
called "Milo", for some reason. Why rename him "Caesar", when the
name Milo--if a "secret" name--would have been equally good?
Armando is a Roman Catholic; he gives "Baby Milo" a medallion in
honor of "the blessed Saint Francis" of Assisi, "who loved all
animals". Armando also believes in DESTINY, the UNALTERABLE WILL OF
GOD. He believes it's the will of God that the progeny of Zira and
Cornelius rule over Humanity. They came from the Future... from the
ONLY future that CAN be, in his estimation: the Future that God MUST
have intended for Mankind. Armando, having found himself in the care
of the surviving baby of those Ape-onauts, wants Mankind to be
dominated by apes who are like Cornelius and Zira. He wants to help
mold this future King into the type of king that will best rule over
others in a way which is "amenable" (pun intended!) to his Catholic
beliefs. But why "Caesar"?
In Dante's "INFERNO", Dante reiterates what he had said in his
previous political paper ("De Monarchia"): that it was the WILL OF
GOD that the "world" be ruled, politically, by an Emperor--by
a "Caesar"--and that the religious affairs of the world be in the
charge of the Papacy. The EMPIRE and the CHURCH were "supposed to be"
the Twin Pillars governing Mankind: the EMPIRE controlling/overseeing
the affairs of Mankind relating to THIS life, and the CHURCH
overseeing the affairs of Mankind relating to the NEXT life,
the "Afterlife". Dante railed against the political influence of the
Church, condemning the Pope of his day for having POLITICAL
ambitions, since Dante felt it was God's Will that the Pope be
restricted to ECCLESIASTICAL concerns, having Willed that the
political sphere be in the control of the Roman Emperors. Dante has
the ghost of Virgil prophesy about the coming of the "Greyhound" ("il
Veltro") who will drive the "she-wolf" ("la Lupa") back into Hell:
the She-Wolf is an obvious symbol of the corrupt Papacy, situated at
Rome (which was founded by Romulus who, with his brother Remus,
suckled at the teat of a she-wolf, according to legend). Dante's
prophesied "Greyhound" is also foretold by the beatified Beatrice at
the top of Mt. Purgatory: "he" is referred to by a Number, "the Five
Hundred Ten and Five" (scholars refer to "him" as the "DXV"). Just as
the Anti-Christ has the number "666" associated with his name (it
being the "number of his name"), so too does Dante's prophesied
Savior have a number associated with him. That number most probably
refers to the Second Coming of Christ: the Latin numerals "DXV"
standing for the Italian words "Dio" (God) and "Vomo" (Man), with
the "X" in the middle signifying both the Cross and the Greek
word "Christos" (the letter "Chi" in Greek looks like the Latin
letter "X": the emblem "XP" is called the "Chi-Rho", the first two
letters of the word "Christ" in Greek).
Dante's future Savior is foretold by the ghost of the pagan poet
Virgil and by the ghost of the Christian love-of-his-life Beatrice:
the latter by a cryptic number ("DXV"), contrasting with the number
of the Anti-Christ, and the former by a metaphorical animal ("the
Greyhound"). In the returned Jesus Christ, Dante saw the proper union
of the Roman Imperial power (the "Caesar") and the Roman Church
authority (the "Pope")--but BEFORE the return of Christ, these
positions of authority are supposed to remain separate, according to
Dante's beliefs. That's why he has the betrayers of both Jesus and of
Julius Caesar in the 3 mouths of Lucifer: Judas in the middle mouth,
head first getting chewed on eternally, and Brutus and Cassius in the
left and right mouths, feet-first getting munched on eternally.
Lucifer's 3 faces are a parody of the Trinity, and exemplify the
tripartite nature of the Church-State situation: there's only ONE
Church which Dante recognizes--the ROMAN Church--but there are TWO
halves of the Roman Empire, the Western (Rome) and the Eastern
(Constantinople).
What was I talking about? Oh yeah... Armando & Caesar.
Why rename "Milo" after Caesar? Well, this chimpanzee who will become
a King one day, Armando wants him to wield God-intended authority: as
a "Caesar", just as Dante talks about. Evidently, Armando doesn't
have a problem with him being an Ape! It's enough that he is
intelligent and can talk--a "gift" that his God must have intended
for him to have. Armando doesn't want him to be a "Caesar" like
Caligula, mind you; more like an emperor Constantine. Armando took
the TITLE ("Caesar"--what had been a name for Julius Caesar later
became a title for the Emperor of Rome) which symbolized the
Political Authority according to God's Will (from a Dantean
perspective) and gave it to that ape as a secret Name. And it was
THAT name which that ape chose on purpose from Breck's book of
names: "Caesar... a King".
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Incidentally, regarding the supposed "rounding-off" of numbers,
Taylor does this in PLANET regarding the distance of their "unnamed
star" from Earth and the amount of EARTH-TIME that they've aged
during their 18-month voyage. He first tells Landon that the distance
is "320 lightyears" and that it's been "2000 years, give or take a
decade"--although he specifically says that Landon is "2031 years
old", obviously subtracting Landon's birthyear (which must be 1947)
from the Earth year he saw on the EARTH-TIME clock (11-25-3978).
Later, Taylor tells him (again) that they're "300 lightyears" from
their precious planet. In this case, Taylor has "rounded down" the
EXACT distance (320) down to the nearest hundred. He also says his
loved ones have been dead for "20 centuries". Obviously, not knowing
any exact dates for the deaths of Landon's loved ones, Taylor rounds
it off to the nearest century.
But the CONQUEST bit about "20 years" is NOT rounding up to the
nearest decade. It's the duration of Armando's circus-running career,
which began in 1971--two years before ESCAPE takes place. And so, two
years into that career is what Breck is referring to when he
says "... from the year, Senor Armando, when the talking apes arrived
on Earth..."
Patrick
P.S. And the Pythagorean Theorem has NOTHING whatsoever to do with it!
*****************
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Well, it's 18 years but people often round off to decades because
they think in decade increments. I don't see any problem with that. -
- - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mlccougar@a...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:53 AM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] 20 years ago...
>
>
> Ok, I was watching some of CONQUEST the other night and came
across a discrepancy... Armando tells Caesar "After 20 years you've
picked up evolved habits from me..." And later on during the
interrogation after Armando says "I run a circus" To which he's give
the (paraphrased) reply of "From 20 years back, when the two Apes
conceived a baby whose existance could have posed a threat to the
entire human race..."
>
> I know the reality is/was just clumbsy writing on Dehn's part,
but I just gotta see if anyone has any "theories" on this one... How
can it be 20 years from "The year of our Lord 1973" to the
year "1991"?
>
> Any takers?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
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Message: 26135 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
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.html I've never noticed the "meep" sound that you've all been talking about
before. Unfortunately I also knew that now that it has been pointed
out I'd probably notice it every time I watched the film from now on.
So, I decided the very least I could do was explain it - and now,
showing an attention to detail that can rival Patrick himself, I have
found the definitive explanation. The "meep" is a badly mis-edited
fraction of Tom Scott's score. And here's why...
Watch the scene where the police are beating up Aldo and we get the
shout of "lousy human bastard". Towards the end of this scene, some
music starts. It continues as Caesar runs off, and lasts for about
35-40 seconds.
Now listen to track 4 on the "Conquest" soundtrack CD, entitled
"Caesar Sneaks Off". This is the aforementioned music. Sure enough,
the music follows the music in the film and after 35-40 seconds trails
off just as in the film. HOWEVER, the version on the CD then continues
(about 41 seconds into the track), with a muted horn coming in
straight away (similar to the way the track opened). Where does this
music fit in to the film then?
Right after Armando's "alternate plan" line, obviously. The music that
features after the 40-second mark on the CD was obviously originally
intended to accompany this scene, but was cut out. Unfortunately it
has been very badly edited and the first few fractions of a second
have accidentally been left in the final sound mix. And if you don't
believe me, compare track 4 of the CD (about 40 seconds in) with the
"meep" sound in the film. Case closed!
Note: This means that, assuming the rest of the cue pans out as it
does on the CD, that the melancholic theme which starts midway through
track 4 on the CD accompanies Caesar & Armando's tearful farewell and
fades out just in time for the next scene (which begins with Breck
questionning Armando). Dig out your DVD and soundtrack CD and give it
a try - you'll see exactly what I mean!
Alan <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26136 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
.html.html In a message dated 2/17/03 5:12:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, alan@... writes:
Dig out your DVD and soundtrack CD and give it a try - you'll see exactly what I mean!
Alan
I see what you mean. You may very well be right.
-- Rory<.html
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Message: 26137 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2003 |
| Subject: Re: CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
.htmlGood work Alan.
This really is a very interesting theory and I have made the same
comparison and it all fits.
That is some very good detective work.
Michael
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Maxwell" <alan@a...> wrote:
> I've never noticed the "meep" sound that you've all been talking
about
> before. Unfortunately I also knew that now that it has been pointed
> out I'd probably notice it every time I watched the film from now
on.
> So, I decided the very least I could do was explain it - and now,
> showing an attention to detail that can rival Patrick himself, I
have
> found the definitive explanation. The "meep" is a badly mis-edited
> fraction of Tom Scott's score. And here's why...
>
> Watch the scene where the police are beating up Aldo and we get the
> shout of "lousy human bastard". Towards the end of this scene, some
> music starts. It continues as Caesar runs off, and lasts for about
> 35-40 seconds.
>
> Now listen to track 4 on the "Conquest" soundtrack CD, entitled
> "Caesar Sneaks Off". This is the aforementioned music. Sure enough,
> the music follows the music in the film and after 35-40 seconds
trails
> off just as in the film. HOWEVER, the version on the CD then
continues
> (about 41 seconds into the track), with a muted horn coming in
> straight away (similar to the way the track opened). Where does this
> music fit in to the film then?
>
> Right after Armando's "alternate plan" line, obviously. The music
that
> features after the 40-second mark on the CD was obviously originally
> intended to accompany this scene, but was cut out. Unfortunately it
> has been very badly edited and the first few fractions of a second
> have accidentally been left in the final sound mix. And if you don't
> believe me, compare track 4 of the CD (about 40 seconds in) with the
> "meep" sound in the film. Case closed!
>
> Note: This means that, assuming the rest of the cue pans out as it
> does on the CD, that the melancholic theme which starts midway
through
> track 4 on the CD accompanies Caesar & Armando's tearful farewell
and
> fades out just in time for the next scene (which begins with Breck
> questionning Armando). Dig out your DVD and soundtrack CD and give
it
> a try - you'll see exactly what I mean!
>
> Alan <.html
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Message: 26138 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/18/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
.html.html In a message dated 2/17/2003 4:12:42 PM Central Standard Time, alan@... writes:
I've never noticed the "meep" sound that you've all been talking about
before.
He also makes a gurgle sound later on. Somebody help me out as to exactly where. He's trying to act primitive and paws at some other ape. <.html
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Message: 26139 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 2/18/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
.htmlMichael < whitty@...> wrote:
> Good work Alan.
>
> This really is a very interesting theory and I have made the same
> comparison and it all fits.
>
> That is some very good detective work.
Thanks. I might even go through the film again some time and see where
some of the other music fits in as I found the instance that I did
discover was quite interesting. On the plus side, FSM have given
enough information that you should be able to work it out easily
enough, but on the down side the film was chopped up so badly,
particularly towards the end, that half the scenes probably don't
exist.
Alan <.html
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Message: 26140 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/18/2003 |
| Subject: "Ape" sales |
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Brian Penikas told me that one of his top
"Apemania" clients is selling off his collection to pay expenses for cancer
treatment. There's a lot at the "Apemania" website and also e-bay. Looks like
Forrest Ackerman is in the lead for a screen-worn Zauis costume. Interested
parties, bid high to help the seller out. - - - Jeff
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26141 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/19/2003 |
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| Subject: Re: CONQUEST's "meep" - REVEALED! |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Maxwell" <alan@a...> wrote:
> I've never noticed the "meep" sound that you've all been talking
about before. Unfortunately I also knew that now that it has been
pointed out I'd probably notice it every time I watched the film from
now on.
> So, I decided the very least I could do was explain it - and now,
showing an attention to detail that can rival Patrick himself, I have
found the definitive explanation. The "meep" is a badly mis-edited
fraction of Tom Scott's score. And here's why...
>
> Watch the scene where the police are beating up Aldo and we get the
shout of "lousy human bastard". Towards the end of this scene, some
music starts. It continues as Caesar runs off, and lasts for about 35-
40 seconds.
>
> Now listen to track 4 on the "Conquest" soundtrack CD,
entitled "Caesar Sneaks Off". This is the aforementioned music. Sure
enough, the music follows the music in the film and after 35-40
seconds trails off just as in the film. HOWEVER, the version on the
CD then continues (about 41 seconds into the track), with a muted
horn coming in straight away (similar to the way the track opened).
Where does this music fit in to the film then?
>
> Right after Armando's "alternate plan" line, obviously. The music
that features after the 40-second mark on the CD was obviously
originally intended to accompany this scene, but was cut out.
Unfortunately it has been very badly edited and the first few
fractions of a second have accidentally been left in the final sound
mix. And if you don't believe me, compare track 4 of the CD (about 40
seconds in) with the "meep" sound in the film. Case closed!
>
> Note: This means that, assuming the rest of the cue pans out as it
does on the CD, that the melancholic theme which starts midway
through track 4 on the CD accompanies Caesar & Armando's tearful
farewell and fades out just in time for the next scene (which begins
with Breck questionning Armando). Dig out your DVD and soundtrack CD
and give it a try - you'll see exactly what I mean!
>
> Alan
*** "MEEP!"
Great bit o' detectivery, Mr. Maxwell! I've no doubts but that you're
correct. It's nice to know, now, just why that annoying glitch is
there... and I hope this doesn't mess you up when you watch CONQUEST
from now on! Maybe, if FOX ever does do an official "compleat"
version of CONQUEST--adding back in all the ultraviolence that
freaked out the test audiences--maybe, just MAYBE, they'll rework the
soundtrack editing and clean this up. I have a feeling that in their
rush to get the film "in the can" and out in theaters, they weren't
as meticulous as they could've/should've been. Well, at least POTA
fans didn't have to wait 3 years or more for their sequels, as was
the case with Lucas' "STAR WARS" sequels!
Patrick <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26142 |
From: Matt |
Date: 2/20/2003 |
| Subject: New POTA Poster? |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26143 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/22/2003 |
| Subject: new page added to tv show website |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26144 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/22/2003 |
| Subject: Simpsons toys going Ape? |
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OK, anyone who's been even near a store
knows that "Simpsons" action figures are popular (the plasticization of even the
most obscure characters is a dead giveaway). So "Ape" fans have been asking for
a while now: are they going to do figures based on the beloved POTA musical? Am
I here to say "Yes"? Well... A report from Michael Crawford at last week's Toy
Fair found Playmates (the Simpsons toy company) in the planning stages of a set
portraying the last scene of an episode called "Rosebud". Remember that one?
Where Mr. Burns loses his teddy bear, and in the last scene it's the future
where he and Smithers are robots, and waaaay in the background you see Homer
carrying a cart with POTA apes in it (wait a minute, is that where Burton got
the idea of using humans instead of horses to draw the cart?). Anyway, they're
planning that set, with figures of robotic Burns and Smithers, with POTA on the
background set. Well, it's a start, huh? - - - Jeff
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26145 |
From: mark_nems |
Date: 2/23/2003 |
| Subject: FMC to show extended version of Battle again |
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.html Good news! It looks like Fox Movie Channel is once again going to be
showing the extended version of Battle For The Planet Of The Apes (in
letterbox no less):
Thursday, April 17th at midnight EST (9pm PST)
Yeepee! <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26146 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/26/2003 |
| Subject: OT -need some info re DVDs |
.htmlI was looking into buying DVD's of the X-Files. I keep seeing the Asian versions pop up on ebay, much cheaper than the US versions. Says they are playable in the US dvd players and that the menu is in English, also says the eps are the same as the US version. What about the quality? Does anyone know? Are these bootlegs?
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Message: 26147 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OT -need some info re DVDs |
.html.html In a message dated 2/26/03 7:47:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, valwp@... writes:
I was looking into buying DVD's of the X-Files. I keep seeing the Asian versions pop up on ebay, much cheaper than the US versions. Says they are playable in the US dvd players and that the menu is in English, also says the eps are the same as the US version. What about the quality? Does anyone know? Are these bootlegs? Kass
No, they're the same.
-- Rory<.html
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Message: 26148 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OT -need some info re DVDs |
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.html Thanks Rory, you're the best :)
Kass
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26149 |
From: Matt |
Date: 2/26/2003 |
| Subject: Cool Collectible |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26150 |
From: Dave B <4print@atlas.co.uk> |
Date: 2/27/2003 |
| Subject: Hmmmmm? |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26151 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/27/2003 |
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| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OT -need some info re DVDs |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Rory, you're the best :)
> Kass
*** Hey, Kass... "Beware the BEST man, for he is the Devil's pawn..."
Patrick <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26152 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] OT -need some info re DVDs |
.html.html In a message dated 2/27/03 8:51:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
*** Hey, Kass... "Beware the BEST man, for he is the Devil's pawn..."
Patrick
What?!!!! Actually, THE BEST MAN is the title of a very good film from the '60s that was directed by Franklin J. Schaffner.
-- Rory the Best<.html
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Message: 26153 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton
| Date: 2/27/2003 |
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.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/27/03 8:51:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
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>*** Hey, Kass... "Beware the BEST man, for he is the Devil's pawn..."
>
> Patrick
>
> What?!!!! Actually, THE BEST MAN is the title of a very good film
from the '60s that was directed by Franklin J. Schaffner.
>
> -- Rory the Best (as in "Best-iality")
*** Never seen it. By any chance, is the song of that name part of
its soundtrack? You know... Al Hirt and Ann Margaret? It's a great
song.
I'd kill to get Al Hirt's "The Horn Meets the Hornet" album on CD, by
the way. An entire album of shit-kicking jazzy versions of TV theme
songs, including "Batman", "The Green Hornet", "Get Smart", and a
whole bunch of shows I never got the chance to watch and that've
never been shown on TVLand. In a world where the crap produced by P.
Diddy/Puff Daddy, Snoop Dogg, etc. sells for $16.99 and flies off the
shelf (!)--who BUYS this shit?!--why, oh, why can't great albums
like "The Horn Meets the Hornet" get digitally remastered and put on
sale at Media Play, Best Buy, Target, Walmart, etc. etc.?
Patrick
P.S. Well, at least we got Filmscore Monthly to put out stuff that
otherwise would languish in studio vaults. Maybe FSM will latch onto
that Al Hirt album and do us all a favor and release it. While
they're at it, they can dig out the album of the "HAWAII 5-O"
soundtrack. It kicks ASS. Man, they don't make TV show music like
THAT anymore. If I hear the faggy theme-music for "ENTERPRISE" even
ONE more time, I'm gonna go up in a clocktower with a high-powered
rifle, I swear...
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Message: 26154 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Enterprise theme music OT |
.html.If I hear the faggy theme-music for "ENTERPRISE" even ONE more time, I'm gonna go up in a clocktower with a high-powered rifle, I swear...
BTW, that was a joke. A friggin' JOKE, d'ya hear?
I'm with you on that one, Pat. I won't say it's "faggy" but it seems all wrong on a sci-fi show. So wrong it is jarring and gets on your nerves. As a shrink would label it, "inappropriate". Some people like it but I repeat IT'S ALL WRONG FOR THE SHOW!
Kass
Kass
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Message: 26155 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
.html.html In a message dated 2/28/03 7:22:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, valwp@... writes:
I'm with you on that one, Pat. I won't say it's "faggy" but it seems all wrong on a sci-fi show. So wrong it is jarring and gets on your nerves. As a shrink would label it, "inappropriate". Some people like it but I repeat IT'S ALL WRONG FOR THE SHOW!
Kass
I've kind of gotten used to it.
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Message: 26156 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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I've kind of gotten used to it.
-- Rory
There are certain thing you develop a taste for, like B movies, beer etc. - but THIS?
NEVER!
K
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Message: 26157 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
.html.html In a message dated 2/28/03 7:39:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, valwp@... writes:
There are certain thing you develop a taste for, like B movies, beer etc. - but THIS?
NEVER!
K
Oh, come on! It's not that bad. I'm much more concerned that the show gets better and starts having some kick-ass episodes.
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Message: 26158 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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Oh, come on! It's not that bad. I'm much more concerned that the show gets better and starts having some kick-ass episodes.
-- Rory
No Rory it's not that bad, as a matter of fact in the scheme of things it just don't matter. But I find it spectacularly JARRING. I like the show but agree about it getting better.
What's your favorite Star Trek show? Mine was "Voyager" of course, being almost universally panned by critics as the worst of the ST entities, I guess you should figure it would be my favorite.
What's your astrology sign? (Just kidding, please, I really am)
Kass
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Message: 26159 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
.html.html In a message dated 2/28/03 7:52:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, valwp@... writes:
What's your favorite Star Trek show? Mine was "Voyager" of course, being almost universally panned by critics as the worst of the ST entities, I guess you should figure it would be my favorite.
What's your astrology sign? (Just kidding, please, I really am)
Kass
I guess I liked TNG when it was at its height, but I've really liked them all, including VOYAGER -- which had that great Jerry Goldsmith theme! DEEP SPACE NINE was my least favorite, but I liked the episodes with Ferengi (Sp?).
I wonder now if ENTERPRISE will last as long as the others. STAR TREK is in need of a fix.
CANCER!!!!!!!
-- Rory
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Message: 26160 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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Some people like it but I repeat IT'S ALL WRONG FOR THE SHOW!
You got that right! It drove me nuts at first, but I'm kind of getting numb to it now. But it sounds like a distillation of every Eye of the Tiger inspired, cheesemo, Beer Commercial, Frank Stalone styled, over produced, I'm Gonna Make It Now, type of song, from every, made for cable last year, B-Movie of the Week, I have ever heard. It is the very antithesis of a Star Trek show theme. If Jerry Goldsmith was in his grave already, he'd be spinning like a dynamo in a hydroelectric dam! <.html
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Message: 26161 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
.html.html In a message dated 2/28/2003 6:40:01 AM Central Standard Time, valwp@... writes:
There are certain thing you develop a taste for, like B movies, beer etc
See! I just said beer and B movies. I don't have a taste for it though. It's more like going to a party and the only booze in the place is one you hate! You'll drink it, and after a few the taste doesn't matter any more, but you are never going to like it. <.html
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Message: 26162 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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.html .htmlWhat's your favorite Star Trek show? Mine was "Voyager" of course, being almost universally panned by critics as the worst of the ST entities, I guess you should figure it would be my favorite.
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Message: 26163 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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Hi guys, I’m new to
your Star Trek discussion group……….
-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@...
[LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Saturday, 1 March 2003 6:35
AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes]
Enterprise theme music OT
What's your favorite Star Trek
show? Mine was "Voyager" of course, being almost universally
panned by critics as the worst of the ST entities, I guess you should figure it
would be my favorite.
I liked that opening, but lately ST has lost some of it's watchability.
I'll still watch the originals on Sci-fi, but there are damn few epis of the
last couple STs that hold my interes as reruns.
Your
use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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Message: 26164 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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Based on the POTA conversation we have had on both groups lately, that being next to nothing, we are discussing whatever is of interest over here, as usual for this group. I enjoy both groups until meaningless snide comments and insults are thrown around.
Got any news Michael re: the pota fan club? How many people have joined?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26165 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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.html .htmlI liked that opening, but lately ST has lost some of it's watchability. I'll still watch the originals on Sci-fi, but there are damn few epis of the last couple STs that hold my interest as reruns. That's one thing I like about the POTA series. Many of the epis are still very watchable.
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Message: 26166 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Is this getting through? |
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.html .htmlEverytime I reply to this group I get back saying . . .
anthonyupen@... - no such user here.
There is no user by that name at this server.
Why is all my mail to a Yahoo POTA group going to Anthony Upen in New Zealand? Especially since there's no such address? Is this happening to any one else? I hop this one gets through.<.html <.html
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Message: 26167 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: OT - Enterprise Theme |
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.html .htmlLooks like that one got through. Anyway what I said was this. It's funny, but after I wrote this I read that some one else have metioned B-moives and beer as well.
You got that right! It drove me nuts at first, but I'm kind of getting numb to it now. But it sounds like a distillation of every Eye of the Tiger inspired, cheesemo, Beer Commercial, Frank Stalone styled, over produced, I'm Gonna Make It Now, type of song, from every, made for cable last year, B-Movie of the Week, I have ever heard. It is the very antithesis of a Star Trek show theme. If Jerry Goldsmith was in his grave already, he'd be spinning like a dynamo in a hydroelectric dam!
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Message: 26168 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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Not really off-topic, but the special
edition of "Star Trek 4" DVD comes out next Tuesday, with a tribute to Mark
Lenard. I think his family talks about him. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 11:34
AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes]
Enterprise theme music OT
What's your favorite Star Trek show? Mine was
"Voyager" of course, being almost universally panned by critics as the worst
of the ST entities, I guess you should figure it would be my favorite.
I liked that opening, but lately ST has lost
some of it's watchability. I'll still watch the originals on Sci-fi, but
there are damn few epis of the last couple STs that hold my interes as reruns.
Your
use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26169 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Is this getting through? |
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I had trouble with getting and sending Yahoo
messages a couple days this week, but not like that. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 7:36
PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Is this
getting through?
Everytime I reply to this group I get back saying . .
. anthonyupen@... - no
such user here.
There is no user by that name at this
server.
Why is all my mail to a Yahoo POTA group going to Anthony Upen
in New Zealand? Especially since there's no such address? Is this
happening to any one else? I hop this one gets through.
Your
use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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Message: 26170 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/28/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Is this getting through? |
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Everytime I reply to this group I get back saying . . . anthonyupen@... - no such user here.
I thought that was just another misleading email to get you to open it up, or something devious like that. I've gotten a few but not in response to my postings, and also others
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Message: 26171 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Does this happen to you? |
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.html .htmlEverytime I reply to this group I get back saying . . .
anthonyupen@... - no such user here.
There is no user by that name at this server.
Why is all my mail to a Yahoo POTA group going to Anthony Upen in New Zealand? Especially since there's no such address? Is this happening to any one else? I hope this one gets through.
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Message: 26172 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Does this happen to you? |
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Message: 26173 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Does this happen to you? |
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.html .htmlIt did it again!
I'm just going to put a spam block on it.<.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26174 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes DVDs |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26175 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
.htmlJeff < veetus@...> wrote:
> Not really off-topic, but the special edition of "Star Trek 4"
>DVD comes out next Tuesday, with a tribute to Mark Lenard. I think
>his family talks about him. - - - Jeff
And of course, number 4 is the only one in the series to feature a
score by Leonard Rosenman, continuing the PotA link-spotting!
Alan <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26176 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Does this happen to you? |
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You're trippin', T. Like Kassidy, I get
those too and I just ignore them. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:53
AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Does
this happen to you?
It did it again! I'm just going to put a spam
block on it.
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Message: 26177 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
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Hi Kass
Easy on the snide comments OK? Yes I understand there is actually very
little apes talk in either group.
Fandom is sitting around 85 members but I
am often surprised how it grows.
You know why there is little apes
TALK? Coz very little is currently
happening. Unlike the other big
sci-fi franchises whose father companies are so busy assuring there is ALWAYS
something new on the horizon.
Christ I wish I could be complaining about the theme music from the 4th
offspin TV Show of POTA……but alas…..
Still no response from Fox re what deleted
scenes are out there, if there exists and alternative Conquest and if I can get
limited franchise licenses for one off medicoms, limited release DVDs etc, but
I am waiting patiently.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae
[valwp@...]
Sent:
Saturday, 1 March 2003
8:59 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme
music OT
Based on the POTA conversation we have had on both
groups lately, that being next to nothing, we are discussing whatever is of
interest over here, as usual for this group. I enjoy both groups
until meaningless snide comments and insults are thrown around.
Got any news Michael re: the pota fan club? How
many people have joined?
Kassidy
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Message: 26178 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
.htmlThe other "Trek"s had music by Jerry Goldsmith. Didn't he do some minor
POTA music? - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT
> Jeff <veetus@...> wrote:
> > Not really off-topic, but the special edition of "Star Trek 4"
> >DVD comes out next Tuesday, with a tribute to Mark Lenard. I think
> >his family talks about him. - - - Jeff
>
> And of course, number 4 is the only one in the series to feature a
> score by Leonard Rosenman, continuing the PotA link-spotting!
>
> Alan
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Message: 26179 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/1/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT |
.htmlAHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [ veetus@...]
Sent: Sunday, 2 March 2003 3:33 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT
The other "Trek"s had music by Jerry Goldsmith. Didn't he do some
minor
POTA music? - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Enterprise theme music OT
> Jeff <veetus@...> wrote:
> > Not really off-topic, but the special edition of "Star Trek 4"
> >DVD comes out next Tuesday, with a tribute to Mark Lenard. I think
> >his family talks about him. - - - Jeff
>
> And of course, number 4 is the only one in the series to feature a
> score by Leonard Rosenman, continuing the PotA link-spotting!
>
> Alan
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Message: 26180 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/2/2003 |
| Subject: The King is dead, long live the King! (OT) |
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Rory mentioned this on the film group, I
thought it was appropriate here. Today (March 2) is the 70th anniversary of the
premiere of "King Kong". Let's face it, the most famous film ape of all (except
maybe Vin Diesel) and one of Arthur Jacobs' favorite movies, if not THE
favorite. It's possible that without "Kong" there would have been no POTA
movies. It's like the birthday of an uncle or something (a monkey's uncle). - -
- Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:41
PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] FMC to show
extended version of Battle again
Good news! It looks like Fox Movie Channel is once again
going to be showing the extended version of Battle For The Planet Of The
Apes (in letterbox no less):
Thursday, April 17th at midnight EST
(9pm PST)
Yeepee!
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Message: 26181 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/2/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The King is dead, long live the King! (OT) |
.html.html In a message dated 3/2/03 3:09:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
Rory mentioned this on the film group, I thought it was appropriate here. Today (March 2) is the 70th anniversary of the premiere of "King Kong". Let's face it, the most famous film ape of all (except maybe Vin Diesel) and one of Arthur Jacobs' favorite movies, if not THE favorite. It's possible that without "Kong" there would have been no POTA movies. It's like the birthday of an uncle or something (a monkey's uncle). - - - Jeff
Yes, I forgot to mention that KING KONG was Arthur P. Jacobs favorite movie. Joe Russo has told me that when he visited Natalie Trundy in the early '80s at the house she and Arthur lived in he swears he saw in Jacob's home theatre room a box marked "King Kong outtakes." Can you imagine what might have been on them?
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Message: 26182 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/2/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The King is dead, long live the King! (OT) |
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Joe told me the Edward G. Robinson makeup
test was sitting unprotected on a rewinder. Imagine all those treasures just
sitting there. Now they're in the anal hands of a university. - - -
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 1:49
PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The
King is dead, long live the King! (OT)
In a message dated 3/2/03 3:09:06
PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@...
writes:
Rory mentioned this on the film group, I thought it was
appropriate here. Today (March 2) is the 70th anniversary of the premiere of
"King Kong". Let's face it, the most famous film ape of all (except maybe
Vin Diesel) and one of Arthur Jacobs' favorite movies, if not THE favorite.
It's possible that without "Kong" there would have been no POTA movies. It's
like the birthday of an uncle or something (a monkey's uncle). - - -
Jeff
Yes, I forgot to mention that KING KONG was Arthur
P. Jacobs favorite movie. Joe Russo has told me that when he visited
Natalie Trundy in the early '80s at the house she and Arthur lived in he
swears he saw in Jacob's home theatre room a box marked "King Kong
outtakes." Can you imagine what might have been on them?
--
Rory
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Message: 26183 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/2/2003 |
| Subject: Montalban in 3D (OT) |
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I'm going to talk about this in more detail
on the film group, but there's a cool article at aintitcool.com (specifically http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14589
). "Spy Kids 3" is filming with a new 3D camera James Cameron developed. As for
this group, the interesting thing is Ricardo (Armando) Montalban reprises his
role as Grandpa from "Spy Kids 2" and gets to take on Sylvester Stallone in 3D,
inside a video game. The bad news is Ricardo is confined to a wheelchair and is
in constant pain from recent surgery but it's great to have him acting again. In
the story, Stallone (as the Toymaker) is the one who accidentally put Grandpa in
the chair. Harry at the site also says Ricardo has a line that his fans will
love (does it reference "Star Trek"? "Fantasy Island"? POTA? He doesn't say). -
- - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 3:41
PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] FMC to show
extended version of Battle again
Good news! It looks like Fox Movie Channel is once again
going to be showing the extended version of Battle For The Planet Of The
Apes (in letterbox no less):
Thursday, April 17th at midnight EST
(9pm PST)
Yeepee!
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Message: 26184 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The King is dead, long live the King! (OT) |
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Joe told me the Edward G. Robinson makeup test was sitting unprotected on a rewinder. Imagine all those treasures just sitting there. Now they're in the anal hands of a university. - - - Jeff
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Message: 26185 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/6/2003 |
| Subject: A stacked deck |
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As many of you know, Rittenhouse
Archives is planning a new set of POTA trading cards. I picked up the current
issue of "Non-Sport Update" (a trading card magazine) and here's the current
value of the various sets according to the magazine:
"POTA Movie (1969)
Per card (green backs) - - -
$2.50
Set of 44 - - - $150.00
Unopened box - - -
$730.00
Unopened pack - - - $25
POTA TV Show (Topps, 1975)
Per card - - - .75
Set of 66 - - - $70
Unopened box - - - $235
Unopened pack - - - $9
POTA Archives (Inkworks, 1999)
Set of 90 - - - $16
Poster Gallery set of 9 - - -
$50
Roddy Revealed set of 4 - - -
$20
Statue of Liberty card - - -
$20
Autograph cards (5 total)
Linda Harrison - - - $62
Others - - - $30 each
Unopened box - - - $55
Promo cards (P1, P2) - - - $2
each
SFX-1 Promo card - - - $6
POTA2001 (Topps, 2001)
Set of 90 - - - $13 (AH HA HA
HA!)
Foil Embossed cards, set of 10 - - -
$25
Bonus Box Topper, set of 6 (one per box) - -
- $24
Simian Suede, set of 6 - - -
$48
Stickers, set of 10 - - - $110
Autograph cards
Heston - - - $60
Helena B. Carter - - - $35
Others - - - $25 - 30 (Note: Linda Harrison
did an autograph card for this too, but it's apparently not as hot as her
Inkworks card)
Costume cards, 6 total
Gorilla Warrior - - - $20
Leo Davidson (Wahlberg) - - -
$20
The Monk - - - $20
Sandar (Ari's dad) - - - $20
Karubi (Kristopherson) - - -
$25
Thade's Father (Heston) - - -
$100
Unopened box - - - $50
Promo cards (3 of 4) - - - $2
each
Promo card in "Wizard" magazine (4 of 4) - -
- $3
set of above 4 Promos - - - $10
5" x 9" foil sheet promo - - -
$4
unnumbered promo (book stores) - - -
$5
promo in soundtrack CD - - - $15 (I have
that!)
Promo cello pack (R1 - R5) - - -
$8
According to my expert analysis, the costume
cards are pretty damn hot. And Rittenhouse is planning the first ever costume
cards for the original films, as well as a stellar lineup of autograph cards
(including Heston). Should be a blast. - - - Jeff
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Message: 26186 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/8/2003 |
| Subject: What the...? |
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Ok, so I was at a collectibles shop today.
And I picked up a Zira for $5 I'm wondering about. It's the 12" Zira from Hasbro
a couple years ago; you know, the ones everybody hates. But it looked trippy, I
thought maybe it was a knockoff or something. Her top coat was black, her
undercoat was pink and there was writing on her face and clothes (16p and
"Lift"). She also had a bandolier of bullets and a large gun, making her look
like a revolutionary. I was thinking someone dyed the clothes and created their
own Zira. But there's no paint on the face and the body is yellowish, not the
flesh color of the normal one. Is this a prototype? I've heard they do the
costumes in whatever color material they have available. The clothes look new,
they don't look dyed. And her hair is finer than the final figure's. Anyone have
an idea what this is? How many prototypes do they make? - - - Jeff
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26187 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] What the...? |
.html.html In a message dated 3/8/03 8:05:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
It's the 12" Zira from Hasbro a couple years ago; you know, the ones everybody hates.
I thought it was fairly good and bought two! I don't know what's up with that version you saw. Sounds pretty trippin', J!
-- Rory<.html
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Message: 26188 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] What the...? |
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I think it's a prototype. I've read that for
the "Star Wars" figures Hasbro will create costumes with whatever material is on
hand. This Zira's clothes are exactly like the ones on the final figure except
made with a cheaper material and are black and pink, not green and brown (it
looks better than it sounds). The whatdyacallit, with the glyphs, is darker
brown and made with a cheaper material, it doesn't feel as leathery. And the
whole outfit fits looser, the bottom of her outer garb (green in the real
figure) isn't sewn to the brown under garment. And on her face they wrote "16p",
on her clothes and leg and boot are written "16p" and "Lift". Her hair isn't as
stiff as the final version. If I was handed that prototype I would've told them
to make the shoes fit better. Somebody added a bandolier, a rifle and night
goggles to make her look like a revolutionary. I e-mailed toy expert Michael
Crawford for his take. Aren't prototypes sought after? In any case, you can't
beat it for $ 5.
I didn't mind the figures; they could've
been better but they're no worse than the average "Star Wars" figure. And the
only Apes made in 12". My favorites were Zira, Taylor and Ursus. - - -
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:44
PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] What
the...?
In a message dated 3/8/03 8:05:48
PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@...
writes:
It's the 12" Zira from Hasbro a couple years ago; you know, the
ones everybody hates.
I thought it was fairly good and bought
two! I don't know what's up with that version you saw.
Sounds pretty trippin', J!
-- Rory
Your
use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26189 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Medicoms |
|
.html Speaking of POTA figures, after waiting and waiting and waiting for
the Media Play store I work at part time (and get discounts at) to
get any of the other 14 Medicoms they've made to date (I bought the
only 4 they've ever gotten here), I decided to try the Net and see
what was up with the availability of these items. It seems that a lot
of retail outlets can't get 'em in, due to their being made in Japan
or something along those lines. And we can't order 'em at the store
for some dumb reason--we can only stock whatever might be sent to us.
So, on EBAY the other night I just happened to find a whole apeload
of 'em up for auction. A lot of 'em were just single ones (eg. the
nearly-naked Taylor one), but I wanted to get ALL the ones I didn't
have.
I found a set of 'em--of ALL of 'em--for about $145.00 plus S&H,
which works out to be around $8.00 each. That's even cheaper than
they would be if Media Play had 'em, counting in the employee
discount. So, I'll be doubled-up on 4 of the Medicoms, but that's all
right. It'll be nice to have 'em all in one fell swoop.
Now if they'll only make figures of the other ANSA astronauts--Dodge,
Landon, and Stewart--both "in-uniform" and "out-of-uniform" (or, in
Stewart's case, both "before she's dead" and "after she's all
shriveled up like Norman Bates' mama"). And while they're at it, they
can make some figures of Virdon and Burke and...
Patrick <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26190 |
From: kidro85@aol.com |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
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.html Does anybody know any legitimate online stores (sites) where we could order
the medicoms? Besides Amok time toys that is.
Also is the Greatest ape (lawgiver) figure out in stores yet? I seen most of
the figures, not him though, I did check Suncoast & Tower records.
T <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26191 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
.htmlI know where you can get the Japanese ones, but they are not cheap.
If anyone wants my source in Japan, please lat me know.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: kidro85@... [ kidro85@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 3:17 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
Does anybody know any legitimate online stores (sites) where we could
order
the medicoms? Besides Amok time toys that is.
Also is the Greatest ape (lawgiver) figure out in stores yet? I seen
most of
the figures, not him though, I did check Suncoast & Tower records.
T
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26192 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
.html.html
Does anybody know any legitimate online stores (sites) where we could order
the medicoms? Besides Amok time toys that is.
Also is the Greatest ape (lawgiver) figure out in stores yet? I seen most of
the figures, not him though, I did check Suncoast &Tower records.
T
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26193 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Medicoms |
.htmlCongratulations, Patrick. You won't regret it. Medicoms are the 9th Wonder
of the World. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 6:22 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Medicoms
> Speaking of POTA figures, after waiting and waiting and waiting for
> the Media Play store I work at part time (and get discounts at) to
> get any of the other 14 Medicoms they've made to date (I bought the
> only 4 they've ever gotten here), I decided to try the Net and see
> what was up with the availability of these items. It seems that a lot
> of retail outlets can't get 'em in, due to their being made in Japan
> or something along those lines. And we can't order 'em at the store
> for some dumb reason--we can only stock whatever might be sent to us.
>
> So, on EBAY the other night I just happened to find a whole apeload
> of 'em up for auction. A lot of 'em were just single ones (eg. the
> nearly-naked Taylor one), but I wanted to get ALL the ones I didn't
> have.
>
> I found a set of 'em--of ALL of 'em--for about $145.00 plus S&H,
> which works out to be around $8.00 each. That's even cheaper than
> they would be if Media Play had 'em, counting in the employee
> discount. So, I'll be doubled-up on 4 of the Medicoms, but that's all
> right. It'll be nice to have 'em all in one fell swoop.
>
> Now if they'll only make figures of the other ANSA astronauts--Dodge,
> Landon, and Stewart--both "in-uniform" and "out-of-uniform" (or, in
> Stewart's case, both "before she's dead" and "after she's all
> shriveled up like Norman Bates' mama"). And while they're at it, they
> can make some figures of Virdon and Burke and...
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26194 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Double Bubble |
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Now here's a double feature! POTA2001 and
"Play-mate of the Apes". Cinemax, Wednesday! - - - Jeff
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26195 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
.htmlMichael,
I'm not in the market to buy them, but I wanted to know what figures Jun
Planning released for POTA2001 in Japan. Does your contact have a
list? - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
> I know where you can get the Japanese ones, but they are not cheap.
>
> If anyone wants my source in Japan, please lat me know.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kidro85@... [kidro85@...]
> Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 3:17 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
>
> Does anybody know any legitimate online stores (sites) where we could
> order
> the medicoms? Besides Amok time toys that is.
> Also is the Greatest ape (lawgiver) figure out in stores yet? I seen
> most of
> the figures, not him though, I did check Suncoast & Tower records.
> T
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26196 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/10/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
.htmlI don't think he has those, but Ken Taylor does...I'll pass this email
to him.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [ veetus@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 4:59 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
Michael,
I'm not in the market to buy them, but I wanted to know what figures
Jun
Planning released for POTA2001 in Japan. Does your contact have a
list? - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
> I know where you can get the Japanese ones, but they are not cheap.
>
> If anyone wants my source in Japan, please lat me know.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kidro85@... [kidro85@...]
> Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 3:17 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
>
> Does anybody know any legitimate online stores (sites) where we could
> order
> the medicoms? Besides Amok time toys that is.
> Also is the Greatest ape (lawgiver) figure out in stores yet? I seen
> most of
> the figures, not him though, I did check Suncoast & Tower records.
> T
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26197 |
From: lordtzer0 |
Date: 3/10/2003 |
| Subject: You are invited |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26198 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/11/2003 |
| Subject: Quick! Get to the bookstore this month! |
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I received word from Harpercollins that
William Quick's new POTA2001 book "Colony" (with the dinosaurs) will out on
March 25. Those who read it seemed to think his last one was pretty good and,
well, the POTA pickings are pretty slim right now. Go for it! - - -
Jeff
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26199 |
From: Ron |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: POTA fans in Florida? |
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.html Hi, any POTA fans in Florida? I'm moving from Connecticut to
Florida, and hope to meet up with other fans in the area. I'm 36 and
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26200 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
.htmlSorry, no "Ape" fans in Florida. No one there has any taste. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron" <betabo4@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:55 PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida?
> Hi, any POTA fans in Florida? I'm moving from Connecticut to
> Florida, and hope to meet up with other fans in the area. I'm 36 and
> a huge fan or the original movies and tv series. Thanks, Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26201 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
.html.html In a message dated 3/12/03 11:29:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
Sorry, no "Ape" fans in Florida. No one there has any taste. - - - Jeff
What?!!!
-- Rory<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26202 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
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Oh yeah, you're right, Alex Ruiz lives
there! - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:32
PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA
fans in Florida?
In a message dated 3/12/03 11:29:47
PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@...
writes:
Sorry, no "Ape" fans in Florida. No one there has any taste. - -
- Jeff
What?!!!
-- Rory
Your
use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26203 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
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Rory lives in Florida. A couple others too I think.
You might try the POTA DG group. They all migrated there.<.html <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26204 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
.html.html In a message dated 3/13/03 12:18:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
Rory lives in Florida. A couple others too I think.
You might try the POTA DG group. They all migrated there.
Yes, I live in Florida, if you can call it living. Mostly it's like the Forbidden Zone here, only much more humid!
-- Rory<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26205 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 3/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
.html.html In a message dated 3/12/03 4:57:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, betabo4@... writes:
Hi, any POTA fans in Florida? I'm moving from Connecticut to
Florida, and hope to meet up with other fans in the area. I'm 36 and
a huge fan or the original movies and tv series. Thanks, Ron
Yeah, I live in Ft. Lauderdale. Where are you moving to?
-- Rory<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26206 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 3/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
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veetus@... wrote:
Sorry, no "Ape" fans in Florida. No one there has any taste. - - - Jeff
Well actually there is a woman in Enterprise, Florida. And no, I'm not kidding. Wrote one of the fan fics on my site.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26207 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
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I think Rory and Alex are the only ones.
Neither are at POTA DG. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:15
PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA
fans in Florida?
Rory lives in Florida. A couple others too I
think. You might try the POTA DG group. They all migrated
there.
Your
use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26208 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida? |
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I also browsed through the 80 or so names
I have of USA Based Fan Club Members and Rory is the only person I have
recorded who lives in Florida.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@...
[veetus@...]
Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 1:51
AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes]
POTA fans in Florida?
I think Rory and Alex are the
only ones. Neither are at POTA DG. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday,
March 12, 2003 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet
of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida?
Rory lives in Florida. A couple others too I think.
You might try the POTA DG group. They all migrated there.
Your
use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is
subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26209 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/14/2003 |
| Subject: Questions for Medicom |
.html.html
Righto,
I have finally broken through and made a telephone call to Medicom in Japan. There was no answer (and when there is I hope
to god they can speak English!), but I want to be prepared for when the phone
does answer!
What are some questions people would like me to ask the
people at Medicom?
Some I have thought of are:
Who had the original idea to do a run of Classic POTA?
Are there any more characters planned? Were these sketched/prototyped?
Do you have any playsets planned?
Any other questions?
I am also going to ask about a limited run Fan Club
Figure. I recall compiling a “wants
list” of Megos with the pota
group…..what is the one figure most desired by people on this group?
I will ask the same question of all Fan Club Members and the
most popular choice will be requested from Medicom.
James, do you remember the fate of the list I compiled re Medicoms?
Michael
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26210 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Questions for Medicom |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Righto,
>
> I have finally broken through and made a telephone call to Medicom
in Japan. There was no answer (and when there is I hope to god they
can speak English!), but I want to be prepared for when the phone
does answer!
>
> What are some questions people would like me to ask the people at
Medicom?
>
*** Ask 'em if they could make some other astronaut figures, like
BRENT, LANDON, DODGE, STEWART, VIRDON and BURKE... and then make to-
scale models of the spaceships. Now THAT would be cool, having Taylor
and his 3 fellow astronauts seated in the four swivel-chairs in the
cockpit of the original ship.
Also ask 'em if they could make a wagon, like the one Zira and Lucius
used to smuggle Taylor and Nova out of Ape City.
How about a "Doomsday Bomb", and the major "Mutants" (Mendez XXVI and
the other 4 big-wigs)? And Kolp, Alma, & Mendez from BATTLE.
And VIRGIL and the 2 MacDonalds. And BRECK, HASSLEIN, ARMANDO...
And they could also make a "Young Cornelius" figure, which could
double for Arno (since they look the same, both in and without the
makeups!).
Patrick <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26211 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Questions for Medicom |
.htmlThey have to do a Natalie Trundy character. She played 3 major characters
and never had a figure. She was Mrs. Jacobs, dammit! (Psst! She was pissed
because Linda H. got a Medicom likeness and she didn't). Albina would be
perfect if they did a mutant; with removable mask. - - - Jeff
PS: If you put a Zira head on the Kubrick "Conquest" Caesar body, you get
Lisa. Do it for Natalie.
----- Original Message -----
From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:56 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Questions for Medicom
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > Righto,
> >
> > I have finally broken through and made a telephone call to Medicom
> in Japan. There was no answer (and when there is I hope to god they
> can speak English!), but I want to be prepared for when the phone
> does answer!
> >
> > What are some questions people would like me to ask the people at
> Medicom?
> >
>
> *** Ask 'em if they could make some other astronaut figures, like
> BRENT, LANDON, DODGE, STEWART, VIRDON and BURKE... and then make to-
> scale models of the spaceships. Now THAT would be cool, having Taylor
> and his 3 fellow astronauts seated in the four swivel-chairs in the
> cockpit of the original ship.
>
> Also ask 'em if they could make a wagon, like the one Zira and Lucius
> used to smuggle Taylor and Nova out of Ape City.
>
> How about a "Doomsday Bomb", and the major "Mutants" (Mendez XXVI and
> the other 4 big-wigs)? And Kolp, Alma, & Mendez from BATTLE.
>
> And VIRGIL and the 2 MacDonalds. And BRECK, HASSLEIN, ARMANDO...
>
> And they could also make a "Young Cornelius" figure, which could
> double for Arno (since they look the same, both in and without the
> makeups!).
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26212 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
.htmlDid Ken get back to you on this one?
-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [ veetus@...]
Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 4:59 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
Michael,
I'm not in the market to buy them, but I wanted to know what figures
Jun
Planning released for POTA2001 in Japan. Does your contact have a
list? - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
> I know where you can get the Japanese ones, but they are not cheap.
>
> If anyone wants my source in Japan, please lat me know.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kidro85@... [kidro85@...]
> Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 3:17 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
>
> Does anybody know any legitimate online stores (sites) where we could
> order
> the medicoms? Besides Amok time toys that is.
> Also is the Greatest ape (lawgiver) figure out in stores yet? I seen
> most of
> the figures, not him though, I did check Suncoast & Tower records.
> T
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26213 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online |
.htmlNo. Neither did Barbie. - - - Jeff
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From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
> Did Ken get back to you on this one?
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> From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
> Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 4:59 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
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> I'm not in the market to buy them, but I wanted to know what figures
> Jun
> Planning released for POTA2001 in Japan. Does your contact have a
> list? - - - Jeff
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> From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 12:44 PM
> Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
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> > I know where you can get the Japanese ones, but they are not cheap.
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> > If anyone wants my source in Japan, please lat me know.
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> > From: kidro85@... [kidro85@...]
> > Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 3:17 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Buying Medicoms online
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26214 |
From: Ron |
Date: 3/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: POTA fans in Florida? |
.htmlMichael, thanks for looking thru your list. wow, just 1 person in
Fla?? I'm #2 then, i'm moving to Tampa. I'll round up some new
members and get them to join up, once i move. Thanks for the post,
Rory,Jeff, etc Thanks, Ron (Connecticut for now)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I also browsed through the 80 or so names I have of USA Based Fan
Club
> Members and Rory is the only person I have recorded who lives in
> Florida.
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> Michael
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> From: veetus@e... [veetus@e...]
> Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 1:51 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida?
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> I think Rory and Alex are the only ones. Neither are at POTA DG. -
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> From: LordTZer0@A...
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA fans in Florida?
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> You might try the POTA DG group. They all migrated there.
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