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| Group: pota |
Message: 26315 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26316 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: First edition "POTA" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26317 |
From: Alexander Ruiz |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hi Alex |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26318 |
From: Chris Hight |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Planet Hollywood Icarus Photo |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26319 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26320 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26321 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] First edition "POTA" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26322 |
From: Alexander Ruiz |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: POTA Original Pieces |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26323 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Simpsons POTA Toys/Merchandise |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26324 |
From: libraryape |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Hi Alex |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26325 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26326 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26327 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] First edition "POTA" |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26328 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26329 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Planet Hollywood Icarus Photo |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26330 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA Original Pieces |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26331 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Big monkey hopes (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26332 |
From: mlccougar |
Date: 4/5/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Big monkey hopes (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26333 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/6/2003 |
| Subject: Baker's first Oscar |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26334 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26335 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26336 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26337 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26338 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Pink of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26339 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26340 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26341 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Julius Figure (In Progress) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26342 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Terminator of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26343 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26344 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26345 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26346 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26347 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26348 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26349 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure (In Progress) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26350 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26351 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure (In Progress) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26352 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26353 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26354 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26355 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26356 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26357 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Teaser |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26358 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Teaser |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26359 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] RE: Teaser |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26360 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26361 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] RE: Teaser |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26362 |
From: Chris Hight |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26363 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26364 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26365 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26366 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26367 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26368 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: Another Teaser |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26369 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: SWEDEN BANS EXPERIMENTS ON GREAT APES |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26370 |
From: libraryape |
Date: 4/11/2003 |
| Subject: Re: SWEDEN BANS EXPERIMENTS ON GREAT APES |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26371 |
From: Alexander Ruiz |
Date: 4/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26372 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/13/2003 |
| Subject: testing |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26373 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/13/2003 |
| Subject: "Starcon '96", Pt. 5 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26374 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/13/2003 |
| Subject: Starcon '96, Pt. 6 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26375 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Starcon '96, Pt. 6 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26376 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Starcon '96, Pt. 6 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26377 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Starcon '96, Pt. 6 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26378 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/13/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Starcon '96, Pt. 6 |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26379 |
From: chewbie2004 |
Date: 4/14/2003 |
| Subject: POTA audio |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26380 |
From: CheeseGOTAS@aol.com |
Date: 4/14/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA audio |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26381 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/14/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA audio |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26382 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/14/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA audio |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26383 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: POTA audio |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26384 |
From: chewbie2004 |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: POTA audio |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26385 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: POTA audio |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26386 |
From: chewbie2004 |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Roddy Drawing |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26387 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26388 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26389 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Galen drawing |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26390 |
From: Neil |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26391 |
From: chewbie2004 |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26392 |
From: chewbie2004 |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26393 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: tv site |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26394 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Roddy Drawing |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26395 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/18/2003 |
| Subject: Check out PLANET OF THE APES SWEEPSTAKES |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26396 |
From: Dean |
Date: 4/23/2003 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26397 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/24/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26398 |
From: Dean |
Date: 4/24/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26399 |
From: Dean |
Date: 4/24/2003 |
| Subject: Banners on ebay |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26400 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/25/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Russo's Book |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26401 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/25/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] RE: [PotaDG] Re: Russo's Book |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26402 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/25/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] RE: [PotaDG] Re: Russo's Book |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26403 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/25/2003 |
| Subject: (no subject) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26404 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: (no subject) |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26405 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26406 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26407 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26408 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: live auction |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26409 |
From: Steve |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Apes Comics & Records For Sale!!!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26410 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes Comics & Records For Sale!!!!! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26411 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: The group |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26412 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26413 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26414 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The group |
|
| Group: pota |
Message: 26315 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
.html.html
Oh yeah, and Jeff forgot to add the bit
that is most relevant to the world today:
“Can’t you see
It all (ie WAR) makes perfect sense
Expressed in dollars and cents
Pounds shillings and pence
Can’t you see
It all makes perfect sense”
It’s a business.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty
[whitty@...]
Sent:
Thursday, 3 April 2003
8:18 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes]
Perfect Sense (OT)
Waters
wanted to use quotes from 2001:A Space Odyssey in the background of this song,
but Kubrick would not allow it.
Needless
to say, as with most things Kubrick denied the general public (such as DVDs and
VHS of A Clockwork Orange), when he died this ceased. If you get Waters’ latest release CD
(“In The Flesh”) it has a live recording of “Perfect
Sense”, complete with HAL having a “nervous breakdown”.
Of
course, Roger wrote all Pink Floyd’s lyrics from 1973 (Dark Side of the
Moon) to The Final Cut. He then went
solo.
I met
him in Sydney before a concert almost one year ago today and he signed a t-shirt
for me.
What
does this have to do with POTA? Nothing.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@...
[veetus@...]
Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 5:22
PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Planet of the Apes]
Perfect Sense (OT)
The monkey sat on a pile of
stones
And he stared at the broken bone in his hand
And the strains of a Viennese quartet
Rang out across the land
The monkey looked up at the stars
And he thought to himself
Memory is a stranger
History is for fools
And he cleaned his hands
In a pool of holy writing
Turned his back on the garden
And set out for the nearest town
Hold on hold on soldier
When you add it all up
The tears and the marrowbone
There's an ounce of gold
And an ounce of pride in each ledger
And the Germans killed the Jews
And the Jews killed the Arabs
And the Arabs killed the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder
That the monkey's confused
He said Mama Mama
The President's a fool
Why do I have to keep reading
These technical manuals
And the joint chiefs of staff
and the brokers on Wall Street said
Don't make us laugh
You're a smart kid
Time is linear
Memory's a stranger
History's for fools
Man is a tool in the hands
Of the great God Almighty
And they gave him command
Of a nuclear submarine
And sent him back in search of
The Garden of Eden
- - - Roger Waters,
"Perfect Sense", Pt. 1
----- Original Message -----
From: <handleyr@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number
1591
> From: "Alexander Ruiz"
<skynetproject@...>
> Subject: Re: Big monkey hopes (OT)
> >I don't know if I would like to see a
POTA 2001 sequel.
> I>f they would make a complete remake once
again and
> >not a sequel to 2001. Then yes, I
would welcome it.
>
> Really? I dunno... that seems kind of
pointless, to remake a film only
> two years after it's been remade. In
any case, I don't think we'll ever
> see a sequel, considering the backlash the
first one took, the lackluster
> response to the comics, and the fact that the
spinoff books didn't sell
> well. I'd go see it if we did... but
I'm not holding my breath.
>
> By the way, can someone tell me if, after
Quick's "The Fall" and the first
> two young adult novels, any other POTA2001
novels have been
> released? I never saw any here in the
NY area. Thanks...
>
> Rich
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26316 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: First edition "POTA" |
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.html Just yesterday I went on a bookstore jaunt, and found in a fairly
good used book store a paperback copy of "PLANET OF THE APES" (the
Xan Fielding translation, of course) which predates the making of the
movie. The publication history page (page 4) reads:
-------------
Copyright, 1963 by Pierre Boulle
All rights reserved. No portion of this book may be reproduced in any
form without the written permission of the publisher, except by a
reviewer who may wish to quote brief passages in connection with a
review for a newspaper or magazine. For information address Vanguard
Press, Inc., 424 Madison Avenue, New York, New York 10017.
Published as a SIGNET BOOK
by arrangement with Vanguard Press, Inc.,
who have authorized this softcover edition.
A hardcover edition is available from Vanguard Press.
First printing, November, 1964
--------------
On the back cover, in addition to 3 reviewer quotes (from "The
Atlantic", "Newark News", and "San Francisco News-Call Bulletin")
there's a photo of Boulle holding a copy of "Le pont de la riviere
kwai", and a brief bio-paragraph which says, in part:
"His first novel published in this country was the tremendously
successful 'The Bridge Over the River Kwai', later made into the
Academy Award-winning film. 'Planet of the Apes' will be filmed in
1965."
And at the bottom it says:
PUBLISHED BY THE NEW AMERICAN LIBRARY
Now, I know that Arthur P. Jacobs purchased the rights to film
Boulle's novel before it was published, and all that... but since the
novel was first published (in French) in 1963, and this first English-
language version (American, using "ape" instead of the
British "monkey" variation in Xan Fielding's translation) was
published in November of 1964, how is it that they "knew" that it
would "be filmed in 1965"?
According to Brian Pendreigh's book "THE LEGEND OF THE PLANET OF THE
APES: OR HOW HOLLYWOOD TURNED DARWIN UPSIDE DOWN", it wasn't
until "September 1966, almost exactly a month after 'Fantastic
Voyage' opened, [that] Dick Zanuck gave the go-ahead for 'Planet of
the Apes' starring Charlton Heston and Edward G. Robinson", this
being about half a year after the screen-test they'd made in March of
1966. We all know that A.P.Jacobs gave pitches to all the other
studios, which "passed" on it (even Fox, prior to Zanuck's
inevitable "okay"-ing of it)... so, just because the film rights had
been bought, why does this New American Library/Signet 1st edition
paperback say that POTA "will be filmed in 1965"?
Did they know something we don't? Or, were they just overly
confident, given the Oscar-winning of the David Lean film of "Kwai",
that Boulle's next major novel would also be filmed?
At any rate, I think I now have enough editions of "Planet of the
Apes"! I have 2 original hardcover editions (the Xan Fielding
translation, with the title in red letters on a black dust jacket), 2
copies of Boulle's book in French (one with a photo of Cornelius on
it, the other with a glossy painting of the Statue of Liberty tipped
over--this, despite the novel not having Lady Liberty in it!), the
British "Monkey Planet" version of Xan Fielding's translation (with
Urko on the cover), 2 versions of the paperback with stills from the
movie (the Astronauts in the raft & the profile of the Gorilla's
head), the Burton-movie tie-in version of Boulle's novel (not to be
confused with the novelization), the paperback version with a
painting that uses the pic of Ursus holding his pistol, a recently
published hardcover geared towards 'books-which-were-the-basis-for-
classic-movies', with a film-spool design on the dust jacket, and now
this Signet 1st edition paperback, which has a white-furred gorilla
face on the cover.
Unless I manage to get my paws on a 1st edition copy of the original
novel in French, I swear to the Almighty Bomb that I'm not gonna buy
another goddamned copy of "POTA"!
Patrick <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26317 |
From: Alexander Ruiz |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hi Alex |
.htmlYeah, but not the video files. All of those 2001 fan made videos and
trailers never got backed up. I have about 2 or 3 different versions of the
sites backed up as I was updating the site, style wise. But I'll be creating
a whole new site as you see now for Terminator at www.techcomforces.com with
flash intro and menus and the contents will be HUGE with video segments on
just about all I have on VHS tapes. Like I said, it's going the be the
ultimate POTA fan site.
Al
>From: <veetus@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hi Alex
>Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 22:56:42 -0800
>
> Do you still have your POTA2001 site saved? - - - Jeff
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <skynetproject@...>
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:38 PM
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hi Alex
>
>
> > Sorry Jeff but I'd rather not cover POTA 2001 on the site.
> > This will be a true blue POTA Classic Site.
> > And I won't countdown a sequel if made, once this site is complete and
>on
> > line it will be running on autopilot til 3978. :o)
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > >From: <veetus@...>
> > >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hi Alex
> > >Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 20:38:30 -0800
> > >
> > > Ahem...will the site cover POTA2001, Alex? - - - Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Alexander Ruiz" <skynetproject@...>
> > >To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:37 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Hi Alex
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Wendy.
> > > > Thanks. Yes I remember. And I still have it as I still have the
>complete
> > > > site on disc. Your poem may soon return online along with a new and
> > >improved
> > > > Permanant POTA Ultimate Classic Site covering the complete films,
>t.v.
> > > > series and toons.
> > > > I have a dream... :o)
> > > >
> > > > Nice to hear from you.
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > > >From: "libraryape" <willowape@...>
> > > > >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Hi Alex
> > > > >Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 18:50:26 -0000
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey, I don't know if you remember me but I had a poem on and the
> > > > >beginnings of novel posted on your sight. Glad to see you are with
> > > > >us. Wendy
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > _____
_____
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Message: 26318 |
From: Chris Hight |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Planet Hollywood Icarus Photo |
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out the Icarus. Infact, I believe I read somewhere
that they wanted to but went out of business before
hand. There are 2 companies that put out unliscensed
versions. One was Skyhook Models. I own this version
and it is quite nice, but the decals are awful. The
price is $50. I could send a photo if anyone is
interested. The other model is by Monsters-in-Motion
and is priced at $100 (I don't own this version).
Chris Hight
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Message: 26319 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
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Very good, Michael. Yes, I have "In the
Flesh". And "Amused to Death". They rock. What does it have to do with POTA?
Nothing. What does it have to do with the world today? Nothing. If you say so.
That's why it's OT and not on the other group. Now, what comic book did you want
to talk about? - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:17
AM
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect
Sense (OT)
Waters wanted to use
quotes from 2001:A Space Odyssey in the background of
this song, but Kubrick would not allow
it.
Needless to say, as
with most things Kubrick denied the general public
(such as DVDs and VHS of A Clockwork Orange), when he
died this ceased. If you get
Waters’ latest release CD (“In The Flesh”) it has a
live recording of “Perfect Sense”, complete with HAL having a “nervous
breakdown”.
Of course, Roger
wrote all Pink FloydÂ’s lyrics from 1973 (Dark Side of the Moon) to The Final
Cut. He then went
solo.
I met him in
Sydney before a concert
almost one year ago today and he signed a t-shirt for
me.
What does this have
to do with POTA? Nothing.
Michael
-----Original
Message----- From:
veetus@... [veetus@...] Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 5:22
PM To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject:
[Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT)
The monkey sat on a pile of
stones And he stared at the broken bone in his
hand And the strains of a Viennese
quartet Rang out across the
land The monkey looked up at the
stars And he thought to
himself Memory is a
stranger History is for
fools And he cleaned his
hands In a pool of holy
writing Turned his back on the
garden And set out for the nearest
town Hold on hold on
soldier When you add it all
up The tears and the
marrowbone There's an ounce of
gold And an ounce of pride in each
ledger And the Germans killed the
Jews And the Jews killed the
Arabs And the Arabs killed the
hostages And that is the
news And is it any
wonder That the monkey's
confused He said Mama
Mama The President's a
fool Why do I have to keep
reading These technical
manuals And the joint chiefs of
staff and the brokers on Wall
Street said Don't make us
laugh You're a smart
kid Time is
linear Memory's a
stranger History's for
fools Man is a tool in the
hands Of the great God
Almighty And they gave him
command Of a nuclear
submarine And sent him back in
search of The Garden of
Eden
- - - Roger Waters,
"Perfect Sense", Pt. 1
----- Original Message ----- From:
<handleyr@...> To:
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Monday, March 31, 2003 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number
1591
> From: "Alexander
Ruiz" <skynetproject@...> > Subject: Re: Big monkey hopes
(OT) > >I don't know if I
would like to see a POTA 2001 sequel. > I>f they would make a complete remake once again
and > >not a sequel to
2001. Then yes, I would welcome it. > >
Really? I dunno... that seems kind of pointless, to remake a film
only > two years after it's
been remade. In any case, I don't think we'll
ever > see a sequel,
considering the backlash the first one took, the
lackluster > response to the
comics, and the fact that the spinoff books didn't
sell > well. I'd go see
it if we did... but I'm not holding my breath. > > By
the way, can someone tell me if, after Quick's "The Fall" and the
first > two young adult novels,
any other POTA2001 novels have been > released? I never saw any here in the NY
area. Thanks... > >
Rich > > >
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Message: 26320 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
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Business? What's that got to do with POTA?
Nothing. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:22
AM
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect
Sense (OT)
Oh yeah, and Jeff
forgot to add the bit that is most relevant to the world
today:
“Can’t you see
It all (ie WAR) makes
perfect sense
Expressed in dollars
and cents
Pounds shillings and
pence
CanÂ’t you see
It all makes perfect
sense”
ItÂ’s a
business.
-----Original
Message----- From: Michael
Whitty [whitty@...] Sent:
Thursday, 3 April
2003
8:18
PM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect
Sense (OT)
Waters
wanted to use quotes from 2001:A Space Odyssey in the background of this song,
but Kubrick would not allow it.
Needless
to say, as with most things Kubrick denied the general public (such as DVDs
and VHS of A Clockwork Orange), when he died this ceased. If you get WatersÂ’ latest release CD
(“In The Flesh”) it has a live recording of “Perfect Sense”, complete with HAL
having a “nervous breakdown”.
Of
course, Roger wrote all Pink FloydÂ’s lyrics from 1973 (Dark Side of the Moon)
to The Final Cut. He then went
solo.
I met
him in Sydney before a concert
almost one year ago today and he signed a t-shirt for
me.
What
does this have to do with POTA?
Nothing.
Michael
-----Original
Message----- From:
veetus@... [veetus@...] Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 5:22
PM To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject:
[Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT)
The monkey sat on a pile of
stones And he stared at the broken bone in his
hand And the strains of a Viennese
quartet Rang out across the
land The monkey looked up at the
stars And he thought to
himself Memory is a
stranger History is for
fools And he cleaned his
hands In a pool of holy
writing Turned his back on the
garden And set out for the nearest
town Hold on hold on
soldier When you add it all
up The tears and the
marrowbone There's an ounce of
gold And an ounce of pride in each
ledger And the Germans killed the
Jews And the Jews killed the
Arabs And the Arabs killed the
hostages And that is the
news And is it any
wonder That the monkey's
confused He said Mama
Mama The President's a
fool Why do I have to keep
reading These technical
manuals And the joint chiefs of
staff and the brokers on Wall
Street said Don't make us
laugh You're a smart
kid Time is
linear Memory's a
stranger History's for
fools Man is a tool in the
hands Of the great God
Almighty And they gave him
command Of a nuclear
submarine And sent him back in
search of The Garden of
Eden
- - - Roger Waters,
"Perfect Sense", Pt. 1
----- Original Message ----- From:
<handleyr@...> To:
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Monday, March 31, 2003 8:54 AM Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number
1591
> From: "Alexander
Ruiz" <skynetproject@...> > Subject: Re: Big monkey hopes
(OT) > >I don't know if I
would like to see a POTA 2001 sequel. > I>f they would make a complete remake once again
and > >not a sequel to
2001. Then yes, I would welcome it. > >
Really? I dunno... that seems kind of pointless, to remake a film
only > two years after it's
been remade. In any case, I don't think we'll
ever > see a sequel,
considering the backlash the first one took, the
lackluster > response to the
comics, and the fact that the spinoff books didn't
sell > well. I'd go see
it if we did... but I'm not holding my breath. > > By
the way, can someone tell me if, after Quick's "The Fall" and the
first > two young adult novels,
any other POTA2001 novels have been > released? I never saw any here in the NY
area. Thanks... > >
Rich > > >
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Message: 26321 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] First edition "POTA" |
.htmlThe book was published in both France and America in 1963 (Happy 40th
Anniversary!) and Jacobs got the rights before it was published. I don't
know the whole history off the top of my head but you can bet the publisher
knew about this and it looked at that point as if it would be filmed in
1965. I think Zanuck authorized Jacobs to buy it for Fox in '63 but got cold
feet. Is this the version with the ape illustration? I have that, a
hardcover U.S. edition, a german edition and 2 different movie editions. And
a French edition from the '90's. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:57 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] First edition "POTA"
> Just yesterday I went on a bookstore jaunt, and found in a fairly
> good used book store a paperback copy of "PLANET OF THE APES" (the
> Xan Fielding translation, of course) which predates the making of the
> movie. The publication history page (page 4) reads:
>
> -------------
> Copyright, 1963 by Pierre Boulle
>
> All rights reserved. No portion of this book may be reproduced in any
> form without the written permission of the publisher, except by a
> reviewer who may wish to quote brief passages in connection with a
> review for a newspaper or magazine. For information address Vanguard
> Press, Inc., 424 Madison Avenue, New York, New York 10017.
>
> Published as a SIGNET BOOK
> by arrangement with Vanguard Press, Inc.,
> who have authorized this softcover edition.
> A hardcover edition is available from Vanguard Press.
>
> First printing, November, 1964
> --------------
>
> On the back cover, in addition to 3 reviewer quotes (from "The
> Atlantic", "Newark News", and "San Francisco News-Call Bulletin")
> there's a photo of Boulle holding a copy of "Le pont de la riviere
> kwai", and a brief bio-paragraph which says, in part:
>
> "His first novel published in this country was the tremendously
> successful 'The Bridge Over the River Kwai', later made into the
> Academy Award-winning film. 'Planet of the Apes' will be filmed in
> 1965."
>
> And at the bottom it says:
>
> PUBLISHED BY THE NEW AMERICAN LIBRARY
>
> Now, I know that Arthur P. Jacobs purchased the rights to film
> Boulle's novel before it was published, and all that... but since the
> novel was first published (in French) in 1963, and this first English-
> language version (American, using "ape" instead of the
> British "monkey" variation in Xan Fielding's translation) was
> published in November of 1964, how is it that they "knew" that it
> would "be filmed in 1965"?
>
> According to Brian Pendreigh's book "THE LEGEND OF THE PLANET OF THE
> APES: OR HOW HOLLYWOOD TURNED DARWIN UPSIDE DOWN", it wasn't
> until "September 1966, almost exactly a month after 'Fantastic
> Voyage' opened, [that] Dick Zanuck gave the go-ahead for 'Planet of
> the Apes' starring Charlton Heston and Edward G. Robinson", this
> being about half a year after the screen-test they'd made in March of
> 1966. We all know that A.P.Jacobs gave pitches to all the other
> studios, which "passed" on it (even Fox, prior to Zanuck's
> inevitable "okay"-ing of it)... so, just because the film rights had
> been bought, why does this New American Library/Signet 1st edition
> paperback say that POTA "will be filmed in 1965"?
>
> Did they know something we don't? Or, were they just overly
> confident, given the Oscar-winning of the David Lean film of "Kwai",
> that Boulle's next major novel would also be filmed?
>
> At any rate, I think I now have enough editions of "Planet of the
> Apes"! I have 2 original hardcover editions (the Xan Fielding
> translation, with the title in red letters on a black dust jacket), 2
> copies of Boulle's book in French (one with a photo of Cornelius on
> it, the other with a glossy painting of the Statue of Liberty tipped
> over--this, despite the novel not having Lady Liberty in it!), the
> British "Monkey Planet" version of Xan Fielding's translation (with
> Urko on the cover), 2 versions of the paperback with stills from the
> movie (the Astronauts in the raft & the profile of the Gorilla's
> head), the Burton-movie tie-in version of Boulle's novel (not to be
> confused with the novelization), the paperback version with a
> painting that uses the pic of Ursus holding his pistol, a recently
> published hardcover geared towards 'books-which-were-the-basis-for-
> classic-movies', with a film-spool design on the dust jacket, and now
> this Signet 1st edition paperback, which has a white-furred gorilla
> face on the cover.
>
> Unless I manage to get my paws on a 1st edition copy of the original
> novel in French, I swear to the Almighty Bomb that I'm not gonna buy
> another goddamned copy of "POTA"!
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26322 |
From: Alexander Ruiz |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: POTA Original Pieces |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26323 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Simpsons POTA Toys/Merchandise |
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These are
great ides Helen.
And yes I am
after ideas for BOTH precious, protected collectibles AND ideas for products we
would buy and open.
Funny how
they go hand in hand......the things that EVERYONE opens and NOBODY keeps (the
POTA Chocolate Lollipop for example) are the ones that end up being worth SO
MUCH if they survive intact!
And yes I am
very serious about these ideas. As soon as we get some workable ideas I
will ask you all if you would buy and I will set about trying to get a Fan Club
License to manufacture some. Probably ideas like the PEZ will be first in
line (less $ to make, less $ to buy) and everything will be limited so there
will be a chance of an increase in value.
I have posted
this to both groups as I am sure there are many ideas out
there.
Michael
Are you looking for
more ideas?
My list: I'm not a collector, so these things I would
buy and give to the kids or use/display without regrets in my
home..........
1.)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26324 |
From: libraryape |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Hi Alex |
.htmlThat's a Roger, Alex. Smile ;0)--- In
pota@yahoogroups.com, "Alexander Ruiz" <skynetproject@h...> wrote:
> Great Wendy.
> I'd rather wait until I open the site so please hold on to it.
>
> Thanks.
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "libraryape" <willowape@h...>
> >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Hi Alex
> >Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 00:21:09 -0000
> >
> >Hey alex,
> >
> >That's fantastic! I have another poem "Thade" if you are
interested.
> >Thypenticle thought it was good enough to be posted on poetry
website
> >but I declined. In spite of "Destiny" and "Thade" I still consider
> >myself an awful poet. The novel I posted on your site has really
> >bloomed. Thanks to you, I have inhereted readers who won't let me
> >quit until I have typed the last word. I have a one page synopsis.
If
> >you are interested I can send it on over. After all, it was you,
> >Prophecysite, that started me on this road of determination to
write
> >a classic POTA novel. I have a dream. :0) Wendy
> >
> > @yahoogroups.com, "Alexander Ruiz" <skynetproject@h...>
wrote:
> > > Hi Wendy.
> > > Thanks. Yes I remember. And I still have it as I still have the
> >complete
> > > site on disc. Your poem may soon return online along with a new
and
> >improved
> > > Permanant POTA Ultimate Classic Site covering the complete
films,
> >t.v.
> > > series and toons.
> > > I have a dream... :o)
> > >
> > > Nice to hear from you.
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > >From: "libraryape" <willowape@h...>
> > > >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Hi Alex
> > > >Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2003 18:50:26 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Hey, I don't know if you remember me but I had a poem on and
the
> > > >beginnings of novel posted on your sight. Glad to see you are
with
> > > >us. Wendy
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
_____
> _____
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26325 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Perfect Sense (OT) |
.htmlYeah but did you chat to Roger and get his autograph? NO!
To do with the world today? The war raging on as it is? PLENTY!
Waters' main theme is the futlility of war. He actually offended
many people with his comments on 9/11, saying how misunderstood the
Muslims are and that the USA needs to review policies.
Anyway, I'd like to talk about Casper and Richie Rich crossovers.
Does OT mean "Off (your) Tits?"
Michael
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Very good, Michael. Yes, I have "In the Flesh". And "Amused to
Death". They rock. What does it have to do with POTA? Nothing. What
does it have to do with the world today? Nothing. If you say so.
That's why it's OT and not on the other group. Now, what comic book
did you want to talk about? - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Whitty
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:17 AM
> Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT)
>
>
> Waters wanted to use quotes from 2001:A Space Odyssey in the
background of this song, but Kubrick would not allow it.
>
>
>
> Needless to say, as with most things Kubrick denied the general
public (such as DVDs and VHS of A Clockwork Orange), when he died
this ceased. If you get Waters' latest release CD ("In The Flesh")
it has a live recording of "Perfect Sense", complete with HAL having
a "nervous breakdown".
>
>
>
> Of course, Roger wrote all Pink Floyd's lyrics from 1973 (Dark
Side of the Moon) to The Final Cut. He then went solo.
>
>
>
> I met him in Sydney before a concert almost one year ago today
and he signed a t-shirt for me.
>
>
>
> What does this have to do with POTA? Nothing.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veetus@e... [veetus@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, 3 April 2003 5:22 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT)
>
>
>
> The monkey sat on a pile of stones
> And he stared at the broken bone in his hand
> And the strains of a Viennese quartet
> Rang out across the land
> The monkey looked up at the stars
> And he thought to himself
> Memory is a stranger
> History is for fools
> And he cleaned his hands
> In a pool of holy writing
> Turned his back on the garden
> And set out for the nearest town
> Hold on hold on soldier
> When you add it all up
> The tears and the marrowbone
> There's an ounce of gold
> And an ounce of pride in each ledger
> And the Germans killed the Jews
> And the Jews killed the Arabs
> And the Arabs killed the hostages
> And that is the news
> And is it any wonder
> That the monkey's confused
> He said Mama Mama
> The President's a fool
> Why do I have to keep reading
> These technical manuals
> And the joint chiefs of staff
> and the brokers on Wall Street said
> Don't make us laugh
> You're a smart kid
> Time is linear
> Memory's a stranger
> History's for fools
> Man is a tool in the hands
> Of the great God Almighty
> And they gave him command
> Of a nuclear submarine
> And sent him back in search of
> The Garden of Eden
>
> - - - Roger Waters,
> "Perfect Sense", Pt. 1
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <handleyr@o...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:54 AM
> Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
>
>
> > From: "Alexander Ruiz" <skynetproject@h...>
> > Subject: Re: Big monkey hopes (OT)
> > >I don't know if I would like to see a POTA 2001 sequel.
> > I>f they would make a complete remake once again and
> > >not a sequel to 2001. Then yes, I would welcome it.
> >
> > Really? I dunno... that seems kind of pointless, to remake a
film only
> > two years after it's been remade. In any case, I don't think
we'll ever
> > see a sequel, considering the backlash the first one took, the
lackluster
> > response to the comics, and the fact that the spinoff books
didn't sell
> > well. I'd go see it if we did... but I'm not holding my breath.
> >
> > By the way, can someone tell me if, after Quick's "The Fall"
and the first
> > two young adult novels, any other POTA2001 novels have been
> > released? I never saw any here in the NY area. Thanks...
> >
> > Rich
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Message: 26326 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/3/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
.htmlYou really are a cheeky little monkey aren't you Jeff?
Hey, who is that hippie looking guy standing in the background behind
Luiz Adami on page 5 of Issue 4 of Simian Scrolls?
Michael
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Business? What's that got to do with POTA? Nothing. - - - Jeff <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26327 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] First edition "POTA" |
.htmlYeah, as I said, "... and [I have] now this Signet 1st edition
paperback, which has a white-furred gorilla face on the cover."
It's funny how some authors, like Stephen King and Michael Crichton,
can write a book which gets made into a movie and then EVERYTHING
they ever write subsequently gets the film-rights bought up and a
movie gets made! Most of the Stephen King-based movies are mediocre,
which is sad--especially those which have screenplays written by the
author (I'm thinking, especially, of King's rancid TV-movie version
of "THE SHINING"). I am looking forward to "TIMELINE", based on
Crichton's excellent novel. After "9/11" I doubt if his "AIRFRAME"
will ever get made into a movie, though...
I wonder why it is that none of Boulle's other novels ever got made
into movies? You'd think that after having written "Kwai" and "POTA"
that OTHER books of his would've been optioned and made--if even only
by French filmmakers. Right now, with the French being seen (rightly,
I must say) as a bunch of weasels due to their molly-coddling of the
Saddam Hussein regime, and the "frog"-bashing going on lately, I
doubt if people are lining up to buy ANY French-based product. So
far, though, I haven't seen any of the late-night talk-show guys
point out that the most implausible aspect of the new movie "THE
CORE" is that there's a brave Frenchman onboard "Virgil"
(the "subterrene" drilling ship). A brave Frenchman! Hah! At least
the Aussies have the fortitude to fight the good fight.
Patrick
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> The book was published in both France and America in 1963 (Happy
40th Anniversary!) and Jacobs got the rights before it was published.
I don't know the whole history off the top of my head but you can bet
the publisher knew about this and it looked at that point as if it
would be filmed in 1965. I think Zanuck authorized Jacobs to buy it
for Fox in '63 but got cold feet.
***Is this the version with the ape illustration? [see above]
I have that, a hardcover U.S. edition, a german edition and 2
different movie editions. And a French edition from the '90's. - - -
Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@y...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:57 AM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] First edition "POTA"
>
>
> > Just yesterday I went on a bookstore jaunt, and found in a fairly
good used book store a paperback copy of "PLANET OF THE APES" (the
Xan Fielding translation, of course) which predates the making of the
movie. The publication history page (page 4) reads:
> >
> > -------------
> > Copyright, 1963 by Pierre Boulle
> >
> > All rights reserved. No portion of this book may be reproduced in
any form without the written permission of the publisher, except by a
reviewer who may wish to quote brief passages in connection with a
review for a newspaper or magazine. For information address Vanguard
Press, Inc., 424 Madison Avenue, New York, New York 10017.
> > Published as a SIGNET BOOK
> > by arrangement with Vanguard Press, Inc.,
> > who have authorized this softcover edition.
> > A hardcover edition is available from Vanguard Press.
> >
> > First printing, November, 1964
> > --------------
> >
> > On the back cover, in addition to 3 reviewer quotes (from "The
Atlantic", "Newark News", and "San Francisco News-Call Bulletin")
there's a photo of Boulle holding a copy of "Le pont de la riviere
kwai", and a brief bio-paragraph which says, in part:
> >
> > "His first novel published in this country was the tremendously
successful 'The Bridge Over the River Kwai', later made into the
Academy Award-winning film. 'Planet of the Apes' will be filmed in
1965."
> >
> > And at the bottom it says:
> >
> > PUBLISHED BY THE NEW AMERICAN LIBRARY
> > Now, I know that Arthur P. Jacobs purchased the rights to film
Boulle's novel before it was published, and all that... but since the
novel was first published (in French) in 1963, and this first English-
language version (American, using "ape" instead of the
British "monkey" variation in Xan Fielding's translation) was
published in November of 1964, how is it that they "knew" that it
would "be filmed in 1965"?
> >
> > According to Brian Pendreigh's book "THE LEGEND OF THE PLANET OF
THE APES: OR HOW HOLLYWOOD TURNED DARWIN UPSIDE DOWN", it wasn't
until "September 1966, almost exactly a month after 'Fantastic
Voyage' opened, [that] Dick Zanuck gave the go-ahead for 'Planet of
the Apes' starring Charlton Heston and Edward G. Robinson", this
being about half a year after the screen-test they'd made in March of
1966. We all know that A.P.Jacobs gave pitches to all the other
studios, which "passed" on it (even Fox, prior to Zanuck's
inevitable "okay"-ing of it)... so, just because the film rights had
been bought, why does this New American Library/Signet 1st edition
paperback say that POTA "will be filmed in 1965"?
> >
> > Did they know something we don't? Or, were they just overly
confident, given the Oscar-winning of the David Lean film of "Kwai",
that Boulle's next major novel would also be filmed?
> >
> > At any rate, I think I now have enough editions of "Planet of the
Apes"! I have 2 original hardcover editions (the Xan Fielding
translation, with the title in red letters on a black dust jacket), 2
copies of Boulle's book in French (one with a photo of Cornelius on
it, the other with a glossy painting of the Statue of Liberty tipped
over--this, despite the novel not having Lady Liberty in it!), the
British "Monkey Planet" version of Xan Fielding's translation (with
Urko on the cover), 2 versions of the paperback with stills from the
movie (the Astronauts in the raft & the profile of the Gorilla's
head), the Burton-movie tie-in version of Boulle's novel (not to be
confused with the novelization), the paperback version with a
painting that uses the pic of Ursus holding his pistol, a recently
published hardcover geared towards 'books-which-were-the-basis-for-
classic-movies', with a film-spool design on the dust jacket, and now
this Signet 1st edition paperback, which has a white-furred gorilla
face on the cover.
> >
> > Unless I manage to get my paws on a 1st edition copy of the
original novel in French, I swear to the Almighty Bomb that I'm not
gonna buy another goddamned copy of "POTA"!
> >
> > Patrick <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26328 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Very good, Michael. Yes, I have "In the Flesh". And "Amused to
Death". They rock. What does it have to do with POTA? Nothing. What
does it have to do with the world today? Nothing. If you say so.
That's why it's OT and not on the other group. Now, what comic book
did you want to talk about? - - - Jeff
*** Roger Waters' "AMUSED TO DEATH" is not all that "off topic", in
my opinion. Look at the album cover: an ape watching a TV set.
Reminds me of "ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES"...
Bill Bonds: "Goodnight."
Zira [to the newscaster]: "Goodnight."
[laughter amongst the group of Dixon, Branton, Cornelius & Zira]
"Amused to Death"--of course, they've just been watching an interview
with Hasslein, whose actions lead to the Ape-onauts' deaths.
Patrick <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26329 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Planet Hollywood Icarus Photo |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hight <snickertown@y...> wrote:
> Aurora would have been the company most likely to put
> out the Icarus. Infact, I believe I read somewhere
> that they wanted to but went out of business before
> hand. There are 2 companies that put out unliscensed
> versions. One was Skyhook Models. I own this version
> and it is quite nice, but the decals are awful. The
> price is $50. I could send a photo if anyone is
> interested. The other model is by Monsters-in-Motion
> and is priced at $100 (I don't own this version).
>
> Chris Hight
*** Yeah, I got both the Skyhook one and the Monsters-In-Motion one.
There was also a small vacuform "A.N.S.A. spaceship" kit, too. My
point about complaining that Revell hadn't made a version has mostly
to do with the material each kit is made out of. The vacuform stuff
(I think it's styrene) isn't as easy to work with as is the plastic
kits that Revell makes. Neither is the material the Skyhook and M-I-M
versions use. And you have to "special order" those, whereas Revell
kits can usually be found at any hobby shop, right alongside all
the "Star Wars" and "Star Trek" kits. I'd bet that IF Revell were
ever to do a "POTA" ship (usually called "Icarus", but not
canonically), and if it were to be sold in stores just like
the "Wars" & "Trek" kits, they'd a surprising number of 'em. Same
goes for the ships from "2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY"; it's criminal that
they didn't mass-produce model kits of the ships from THAT film!
Patrick <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26330 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA Original Pieces |
.htmlhow do i get those 68 originals
>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <skynetproject@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Planet of the Apes] POTA Original Pieces
>Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 13:13:11 -0500
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26331 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/4/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Big monkey hopes (OT) |
.htmlhey do you know if there is 68 pota and beneath on super 8 film
>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <skynetproject@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Big monkey hopes (OT)
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:06:36 -0500
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26332 |
From: mlccougar |
Date: 4/5/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Big monkey hopes (OT) |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John Rutkoski" <johnnyx59@m...> wrote:
> hey do you know if there is 68 pota and beneath on super 8 film
Yes, all 5 films were released as Super 8 films... They show up on
eBay quite frequently... <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26333 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/6/2003 |
| Subject: Baker's first Oscar |
.htmlI was at the Motion Picture Academy today where they were displaying a
rommful of Oscars, at least one for every year since it's inception. Anyway,
they had Rick Baker's Oscar for "American Werewolf in London" and a picture
of him with the presenters: Vincent Price and, wait for it...Kim Hunter. I
remember in '87 when "The Fly" won Best Makeup they opened it with a clip
from POTA ("What will he find out there, Doctor?") but I don't remember if
Hunter presented that too. Or am I mixing that up with the '82 "Werewolf"
Oscars? Anyway, the Oscars have given POTA a lot of respect when it comes to
makeup. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Ruiz" <skynetproject@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:13 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] POTA Original Pieces
> Ebay has a bunch of Original '68 POTA movie pieces on sale.
>
>
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=3&from
=R7&st=2&query=planet+of+the+apes&minPrice=&maxPrice=&ebaytag1=ebayctry&ebay
tag1code=0&SortProperty=MetaEndSort
>
> Now all I need now is to win a lotto.
> Al
>
>
> _____
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26334 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
.html.html
Well, the theme of the album (other than
the really obvious anti-war theme) is that humanity has overdone it in the
technology department to the point of extinction – a very similar theme
to much of POTA I agree (but I don’t think it was an INTENDED link…the
monkey references are mainly to 2001: A Space Odyssey).
MIchael
-----Original Message-----
From: patrickmichaeltilton
[patrickmichaeltilton@...]
Sent: Saturday, 5 April 2003 12:12
PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes]
Perfect Sense (OT)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com,
<veetus@e...> wrote:
> Very good, Michael. Yes, I have
"In the Flesh". And "Amused to
Death". They rock. What does it have to do
with POTA? Nothing. What
does it have to do with the world today? Nothing.
If you say so.
That's why it's OT and not on the other group.
Now, what comic book
did you want to talk about? - - - Jeff
*** Roger Waters' "AMUSED TO DEATH" is
not all that "off topic", in
my opinion. Look at the album cover: an ape
watching a TV set.
Reminds me of "ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE
APES"...
Bill Bonds: "Goodnight."
Zira [to the newscaster]: "Goodnight."
[laughter amongst the group of Dixon, Branton,
Cornelius & Zira]
"Amused to Death"--of course, they've
just been watching an interview
with Hasslein, whose actions lead to the
Ape-onauts' deaths.
Patrick
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Message: 26335 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
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There wasn't an intended link, just as there
wasn't an intended link to the Iraq war, seeing as how the song was written a
while ago. But if the shoe fits... - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:43
AM
Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect
Sense (OT)
Well, the theme of
the album (other than the really obvious anti-war theme) is that humanity has
overdone it in the technology department to the point of extinction – a very
similar theme to much of POTA I agree (but I donÂ’t think it was an INTENDED
linkÂ…the monkey references are mainly to 2001: A Space
Odyssey).
MIchael
-----Original
Message----- From:
patrickmichaeltilton [patrickmichaeltilton@...] Sent: Saturday, 5 April 2003 12:12
PM To:
pota@yahoogroups.com Subject:
Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT)
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com,
<veetus@e...> wrote: > Very good, Michael. Yes, I have "In the
Flesh". And "Amused to Death".
They rock. What does it have to do with POTA? Nothing. What
does it have to do with the world
today? Nothing. If you say so. That's why it's OT and not on the other group. Now, what
comic book did you want to talk
about? - - - Jeff
*** Roger
Waters' "AMUSED TO DEATH" is not all that "off topic", in
my opinion. Look at the album
cover: an ape watching a TV set. Reminds me of "ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE
APES"...
Bill Bonds:
"Goodnight." Zira [to the
newscaster]: "Goodnight." [laughter amongst the group of Dixon, Branton, Cornelius
& Zira]
"Amused to
Death"--of course, they've just been watching an interview
with Hasslein, whose actions lead
to the Ape-onauts' deaths.
Patrick
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26336 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
.html"Michael Whitty" < whitty@...> wrote:
>I met him in Sydney before a concert almost one year ago today and he
>signed a t-shirt for me.
>
>What does this have to do with POTA? Nothing.
It has everything to do with PotA!
I recall there is a website somewhere (can't remember the URL) that
lists Pink Floyd albums and films that they can be played on top of -
one or two of them are genuine I think, and the rest are just ones
that people have tried and they've worked.
Anyway, the point is that apparently there is one Pink Floyd album (it
might be the Division Bell, but I can't remember) that apparently
synchronises perfectly with the original PotA movie.
Alan <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26337 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
.html.html
It is the Division Bell that you are
thinking of.
I thought that was a very poor Pink Floyd
album (it was released with no Roger Waters involvement), but some fellow fans
have told me it grows on you so I’ll give it another belt (with, of
course, POTA). Anyone know if you start
when the lion roars or what?
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell
[alan@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2003 6:14
AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes]
Perfect Sense (OT)
"Michael Whitty"
<whitty@...> wrote:
>I met him in Sydney before a concert almost
one year ago today and he
>signed a t-shirt for me.
>
>What does this have to do with POTA?
Nothing.
It has everything to do with PotA!
I recall there is a website somewhere (can't
remember the URL) that
lists Pink Floyd albums and films that they can be
played on top of -
one or two of them are genuine I think, and the
rest are just ones
that people have tried and they've worked.
Anyway, the point is that apparently there is one
Pink Floyd album (it
might be the Division Bell, but I can't remember)
that apparently
synchronises perfectly with the original PotA
movie.
Alan
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Message: 26338 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Pink of the Apes |
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Pink of the Apes
Planet of the Division Bell
Heard of Publius Enigma? Well here's the answer. Get the CD "The Division Bell" by Pink Floyd, and the movie "Planet of The Apes(1968)". Push play on the CD when the 20th Century Fox logo fades to black.
The Clues
On the cover of TDB is an ape like face. Open the CD booklet to the song Keep Talking, and there's the monkeys together that make an ape face. In the book "Mind Over Matter" by Storm Thorgerson, go to page 139. In the black cape you'll see an ape face. Stephen Hawkings saying that "Mankind lived just like animals" on TDB song "Keep Talking". And at the very end of TDB CD if you turn the volume all the way up. You'll hear a conversation that synchs up magically with the movie. "Is that you Charlie?" referring to Charlton Heston. It's a trip!
What You Will See
The song title's describe what's going on in the movie. "CLUSTER ONE" is the intro to the opening credits. You see stars glittering & shooting by. In the CD booklet for this song is a picture of a observatory for watching stars & planets. "WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME" begins just when the spaceship crashes into the water, and the crew members are asking the same question, as they try to get out. "POLES APART" begins when the last crew member jumps off the spaceship, and they paddle their way towards a new planet. They are now poles apart from earth. "MAROONED", they are now marooned on a desert like planet. Just like the picture in the CD booklet. "A GREAT DAY FOR FREEDOM" is when they discover life on the planet. They discover a flower like plant, and trees by a waterfall. the picture in the CD booklet has flowers floating on water. "WEARING THE INSIDE OUT" is when they go skinny dipping by
the waterfall. they're wearing the inside out. "TAKE IT BACK" is when the apes take them back to the camp. "COMING BACK TO LIFE" this is when Charlton Heston comes back to life after being shot in the throat. "KEEP TALKING" Heston communicates through writting. His words won't come out right because he has been shot in the throat. Why won't you talk to me. He can't. "LOST FOR WORDS" Heston is gaged by a muzzle. He then fights his way out of there. The picture in the CD boolet is of boxing gloves. "HIGH HOPES" The ringing of the division bell has begun. Heston is on trial as you hear the bell's ringing at the end. At the very end of the CD, if you turn the volume up. You'll hear "Is that you Charlie" as the apes are looking at Charlton(Charlie)Heston. The picture in the CD booklet for the song "High Hopes" is the same one on page 139 of "Mind Over Matter" which you can see an ape
face in the black cape, but not in the CD booklet. Publuis Enigma has struck again^~
FROM: http://community-2.webtv.net/Dreamx/SYNCHRONICITIESof/
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell [mailto:alan@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2003 6:14 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT)
"Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>I met him in Sydney before a concert almost one year ago today and he
>signed a t-shirt for me.
>
>What does this have to do with POTA? Nothing.
It has everything to do with PotA!
I recall there is a website somewhere (can't remember the URL) that
lists Pink Floyd albums and films that they can be played on top of -
one or two of them are genuine I think, and the rest are just ones
that people have tried and they've worked.
Anyway, the point is that apparently there is one Pink Floyd album (it
might be the Division Bell, but I can't remember) that apparently
synchronises perfectly with the original PotA movie.
Alan
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Message: 26339 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
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lists Pink Floyd albums and films that they can be played on top of - one or two of them are genuine I think, and the rest are just ones that people have tried and they've worked.
++I saw on Turner Classics where they played the Wizard of Oz with an option of listening to the Pink Floyd album that syncronizes with it. Amazing.
Kassidy
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Message: 26340 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.html"Alexander Ruiz" < skynetproject@...> wrote:
> I would have loved to have seen Schwarzenegger and Cameron teaming
up for
> Planet of the Apes.
I was dead against a Cameron/Schwarzenegger version of Planet of the
Apes. The irony though is that I was against it because I thought they
would churn out the kind of crappy remake that Burton ended up making
anyway!
Alan <.html
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Message: 26341 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Julius Figure (In Progress) |
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Thought some
of you here might be interested...
Michael
Attached is an "in progress" photo of my 12 inch custom
Julius figure. He is nearly finished. We are still trying to get the hair
painted just right. Some professional pix are coming soon. I've
made some extra figures to offset the costs it took to produce it. Anyone
interested in taking this figure home can contact me directly at: snickertown@....
THX for looking,
Chris Hight <.html <.html
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Message: 26342 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Terminator of the Apes |
.html.html From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 8:11 pm
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
I was dead against a Cameron/Schwarzenegger version of Planet of the Apes. The irony though is that I was against it because I thought they would churn out the kind of crappy remake that Burton ended up making anyway!
Alan
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Message: 26343 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.html.html In a message dated 4/7/03 5:53:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, alan@... writes:
I was dead against a Cameron/Schwarzenegger version of Planet of the
Apes. The irony though is that I was against it because I thought they
would churn out the kind of crappy remake that Burton ended up making
anyway!
Alan
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Message: 26344 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlwe gotta watch what we wish for. i thought arnold playing taylor role was
bad idea also. i'm so pissed off with burton and the powers that be. he
must of had some higher ups dictating to him. i mean look at his other films
there pretty good characters and stories scissorhands, ed wood,
beetlejuice. (apes 2001 puke)
>From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
>Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 21:11:15 +0100
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Message: 26345 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlburton was payed off look at his other movies great characters and stories
scissorhands, ed wood, beetlejuice. i even enjoy nightmare before
christmas great storytelling. seems to me the brass had there way with him.
or he just made a bad choice in writers. i'm upset just thinking about it
they took a classic and trashed it.
>From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
>Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 21:11:15 +0100
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Message: 26346 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/7/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlya think cameron would be into a apes pt. 2 we'll prob. have to wait for
some time to pass
>From: <veetus@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:20:53 -0800
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Message: 26347 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT) |
.htmlSince this topic keeps coming up, let me just confess. I thought that song
was very appropriate to POTA and also to our continuing path of not getting
along (a main theme of POTA; it doesn't matter who the players are, humans
on top, apes on top, no one can get along without trying to dominate). Isn't
what it was intended to be, but as a POTA board and with the continuing war
coverage day in and day out, it made "perfect sense" to me to quote it.
Sorry. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Perfect Sense (OT)
> "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
> >I met him in Sydney before a concert almost one year ago today and he
> >signed a t-shirt for me.
> >
> >What does this have to do with POTA? Nothing.
>
> It has everything to do with PotA!
>
> I recall there is a website somewhere (can't remember the URL) that
> lists Pink Floyd albums and films that they can be played on top of -
> one or two of them are genuine I think, and the rest are just ones
> that people have tried and they've worked.
>
> Anyway, the point is that apparently there is one Pink Floyd album (it
> might be the Division Bell, but I can't remember) that apparently
> synchronises perfectly with the original PotA movie.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
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Message: 26348 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlWell, if Cameron had stayed involved in POTA it probably still wouldn't
have been made to this day. At least with the Burton one we don't have to
wait for it anymore. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
> "Alexander Ruiz" <skynetproject@...> wrote:
> > I would have loved to have seen Schwarzenegger and Cameron teaming
> up for
> > Planet of the Apes.
>
> I was dead against a Cameron/Schwarzenegger version of Planet of the
> Apes. The irony though is that I was against it because I thought they
> would churn out the kind of crappy remake that Burton ended up making
> anyway!
>
> Alan
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26349 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure (In Progress) |
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Thank you, Mr. Whitty for sharing that
morsel with us underprivileged fans! - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:41
PM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Julius
Figure (In Progress)
Thought
some of you here might be interested...
Michael
Attached is an "in progress" photo of my 12 inch custom
Julius figure. He is nearly finished. We are still trying to get the hair
painted just right. Some professional pix are coming soon. I've
made some extra figures to offset the costs it took to produce it. Anyone
interested in taking this figure home can contact me directly at: snickertown@....
THX for looking,
Chris Hight
Your
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26350 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlBurton has been down this road for a while. "Mars Attacks", "Sleepy
Hollow". He thinks it cute to take a big budget and make a cheesy movie with
it. His next movie, "Big Fish" might bring him back to classy "Ed Wood"
territory and has a lot of folks from POTA2001: Zanuck, same D.P., editor,
costume designer. It's redemption time. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rutkoski" <johnnyx59@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
> we gotta watch what we wish for. i thought arnold playing taylor role was
> bad idea also. i'm so pissed off with burton and the powers that be. he
> must of had some higher ups dictating to him. i mean look at his other
films
> there pretty good characters and stories scissorhands, ed wood,
> beetlejuice. (apes 2001 puke)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
> >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
> >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 21:11:15 +0100
> >
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26351 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure (In Progress) |
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I always share my 12”.
-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@...
[veetus@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2003 5:04
PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes]
Julius Figure (In Progress)
Thank you, Mr. Whitty for
sharing that morsel with us underprivileged fans! - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday,
April 07, 2003 3:41 PM
Subject: [Planet of
the Apes] Julius Figure (In Progress)
Thought
some of you here might be interested...
Attached is an "in progress" photo of my 12 inch custom
Julius figure. He is nearly finished. We are still trying to get the hair
painted just right. Some professional pix are coming soon. I've
made some extra figures to offset the costs it took to produce it. Anyone
interested in taking this figure home can contact me directly at: snickertown@....
THX for looking,
Chris Hight
Your
use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the .
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is
subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26352 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlhis only redemption for me , would be him saying " i messed up on pota "
>From: <veetus@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
>Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 00:11:13 -0700
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26353 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlterrible statement what burton did with it better it was never made
>From: <veetus@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
>Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 00:00:30 -0700
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26354 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/8/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlBurton didn't go so far as say he messed up, but he did badmouth Fox about
the scheduling. Zanuck has said for a sequel they need "a better story".
Rick Baker privately called it "a bad movie" at John Chambers' funeral. And
Zanuck's bad luck in getting a sequel going (despite the movie being
profitable and the sequelmania in Hollywood) shows Fox knows they screwed
up. Probably Burton will make excuses for it when "Big Fish" comes out at
the end of the year. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rutkoski" <johnnyx59@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
> his only redemption for me , would be him saying " i messed up on pota "
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: <veetus@...>
> >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
> >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 00:11:13 -0700
> >
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26355 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.html.html In a message dated 4/8/03 10:54:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, johnnyx59@... writes:
terrible statement what burton did with it better it was never made
That's what I often think about the sequels, especially BATTLE. I think BENEATH is a mess, and ESCAPE and CONQUEST suffer from budgets that are too low. What's your thoughts, Johnnyx59?
-- Rory<.html
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Message: 26356 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.html.html In a message dated 4/8/03 11:10:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
Rick Baker privately called it "a bad movie" at John Chambers' funeral.
I didn't know that. Very interesting. I think one of the reasons we haven't heard anything about another APES movie is because Fox knows it has to start from scratch again.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26357 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Teaser |
.html.html
Just thought you might be interested in latest on the comic being put
together by Neil (artist) and Dave (writer).
Exclusive free distribution to members of
the Official International Planet of the Apes Fan Club. To join the fan club, just send me your
name and mailing address (any country).
Michael Whitty
Founder
Official International Planet of the Apes
Fan Club
25 Hilder Street
WESTON ACT
2611
AUSTRALIA
EMAIL: whitty@...
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26358 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Teaser |
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Ooops!
In my haste to get this out, I neglected
to mention:
(1) The cover is only a rough pencil sketch;
(2) The title may change;
(3) While the project is well underway, I don’t have a firm
completion date yet!
Remember, only members of the Fan Club
will get this one!
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty
[whitty@...]
Sent:
Thursday, 10 April 2003
7:56 AM
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com';
'Pota@yahoogroups.com'; 'potafanfic@yahoogroups.com'; 'apeman@...';
'friends_and_fugitives@yahoogroups.com'; 'HTHRLYN@...';
'tsuchi@...-net.ne.jp'
Subject: Teaser
Just thought you might be interested in latest on the
comic being put together by Neil (artist) and Dave (writer).
Exclusive free
distribution to members of the Official International Planet of the Apes Fan
Club. To join the fan club, just
send me your name and mailing address (any country).
Michael Whitty
Founder
Official
International Planet of the Apes Fan Club
25 Hilder Street
WESTON ACT
2611
AUSTRALIA
EMAIL: whitty@...
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26359 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] RE: Teaser |
.htmlHey, I am totally impressed, awed, etc. I cannot wait to get my hands on this comic! Pencil sketch or not it looks absolutely fantastic! BIG CHEERS to Neil and Dave!
Kassidy
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26360 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
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Thanks again
Chris.
This really
is a great item.
Michael
PS: John Roche, aren't you
covering Action Figures in an upcoming edition? Will you cover
customs too?
-----Original
Message----- From: Chris Hight
[snickertown@...] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 1:34
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Julius
Figure Final Version Photo
This is the final version of the Julius figure.
I've made a couple extra. The price is $80 +$5
shipping (outside the U.S. the price is $14 for
shipping . I apologize for the lofty price, but these
figures cost a fortune to make!!! I take Credit Cards
through PayPal the account name is
Snickertown@.... If you don't like PayPal you can mail a check or Money
Order to the address below.
My email
address is: snickertown@...
Thx for your time,
Chris
Hight 506 Felton Ave. Collingdale, PA 19023
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Message: 26361 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] RE: Teaser |
.htmlI agree Kass.
You will be pleased to know that the next venture is planned to be
another of Dave's stories....but set in the TV Series era!
Dave writes great stories and Neil is by far the most talented
illustrator of apes I have seen. I wonder why Neil can draw apes
while almost NONE of the other comic book artists even look VAGUELY
like POTA Characters?
Michael
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
> Hey, I am totally impressed, awed, etc. I cannot wait to get my
hands on this comic! Pencil sketch or not it looks absolutely
fantastic! BIG CHEERS to Neil and Dave!
> Kassidy
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26362 |
From: Chris Hight |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
.htmlHi Michael and the POTADG,
Let me thank you and the group for being so kind to allow me to show my figures here. You have all been very encouraging.
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Message: 26363 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
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POTADG? Blasphemy! Get him out of her!
Begone, Satan! - - - pota@yahoogroups.com
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:34
PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius
Figure Final Version Photo
Hi Michael and the POTADG,
Let me thank you and the group for being so kind to allow me to show
my figures here. You have all been very encouraging.
Chris Hight
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26364 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/9/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
.htmlThat's not what you said last night sweetie!
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> POTADG? Blasphemy! Get him out of her! Begone, Satan! - - -
pota@yahoogroups.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Hight
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version
Photo
>
>
> Hi Michael and the POTADG,
>
> Let me thank you and the group for being so kind to allow me to
show my figures here. You have all been very encouraging.
>
> Chris Hight
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26365 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version Photo |
.htmlThat's supposed to be "Get him out of herE". No wonder we're of such ill
repute! - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version Photo
> That's not what you said last night sweetie!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > POTADG? Blasphemy! Get him out of her! Begone, Satan! - - -
> pota@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Chris Hight
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Julius Figure Final Version
> Photo
> >
> >
> > Hi Michael and the POTADG,
> >
> > Let me thank you and the group for being so kind to allow me to
> show my figures here. You have all been very encouraging.
> >
> > Chris Hight
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26366 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlhey do you know if cameron had much of the story finished or just a idea
>From: <veetus@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:20:53 -0800
>
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26367 |
From: John Rutkoski |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmli wish pota 2001 can be erased and start over it may take time. waiting all
these years and then that junk . ya know i never even thought of a new pota
all those years before 2001 they played with my emotions. bloody bastards.
>From: Haristas@...
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
>Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 07:26:36 EDT
>
>In a message dated 4/8/03 11:10:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>veetus@... writes:
>
>
> > Rick Baker privately called it "a bad movie" at John Chambers' funeral.
>
>I didn't know that. Very interesting. I think one of the reasons we
>haven't
>heard anything about another APES movie is because Fox knows it has to
>start
>from scratch again.
>
>-- Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26368 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: Another Teaser |
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There sure is a lot of good stuff coming
up!
Michael
Now here's a sneak-peak for you. Yeah we are still
waiting for Greg to finish the URSUS resin kit bust, but check out our latest
addition to the line (still on the sculpting block but soon to be completed)
Brian
Michael
Whitty wrote:
Just thought you might be interested in latest on
the comic being put together by Neil (artist) and Dave (writer).
Exclusive free distribution
to members of the Official International Planet of the Apes Fan Club.To join
the fan club, just send me your name and mailing address (any country).
Michael Whitty
Founder
Official International Planet of the Apes
Fan Club
25 Hilder Street
WESTONACT2611
AUSTRALIA
EMAIL: whitty@...
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26369 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/10/2003 |
| Subject: SWEDEN BANS EXPERIMENTS ON GREAT APES |
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.html .htmlSWEDEN BANS EXPERIMENTS ON GREAT APES
Sweden's Board of Agriculture together with Sweden's National Board for Laboratory Animals recently decided on new regulations for using animals in research. One of the most important changes is that great apes and nine species of Gibbon apes will be exempt from use in experiments from june this year. Only non-invasive behavioural studies of these animals will be allowed in the future.
"No great apes or Gibbon apes are currently used in experiments in Sweden, but the ban is still a matter of great ideological importance," says Per-Anders Svd, Campaign Manager at Animal Rights Sweden, the country's largest animal rights organization. "The decision marks an important shift in official policy, since it implicitly recognizes the individual moral worth of primates. Hopefully, the ban can be seen as a first step towards extending moral and legal rights to millions of other animals suffering in experiments."
Animal rights organizations all over the world have been campaigning to end primate experiments for several years. The Swedish ban will undoubtely generate hope and enthusiasm within the international community of activists struggling to end primate experimentation in their respective countries.
"By raising public awareness through persistent campaigns, activists have been able to push back long-standing prejudice surrounding the moral standing of primates. There are no excuses for using primates in experiments, and this is finally beginning to sink in - even at the level of policy-making," concludes Per-Anders Svd.
For more information, please contact:
Per-Anders Svd
Animal Experimentation Campaign Manager
Fbundet djurens rt / Animal Rights Sweden
Box 2005
125 02 vsj
SWEDEN
Phone: +46 8 555 914 03
Fax: +46 555 914 50
Mobile: +46 733 32 39 44
E-mail: per-anders.svard@...
Website: www.djurensratt.org
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Message: 26370 |
From: libraryape |
Date: 4/11/2003 |
| Subject: Re: SWEDEN BANS EXPERIMENTS ON GREAT APES |
.htmlWell,it is about time. Thanks for sharing this Haristas.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> SWEDEN BANS EXPERIMENTS ON GREAT APES
>
> Sweden's Board of Agriculture together with Sweden's National Board
for
> Laboratory Animals recently decided on new regulations for using
animals in
> research. One of the most important changes is that great apes and
nine
> species of Gibbon apes will be exempt from use in experiments from
june this
> year. Only non-invasive behavioural studies of these animals will
be allowed
> in the future.
>
> "No great apes or Gibbon apes are currently used in experiments in
Sweden,
> but the ban is still a matter of great ideological importance,"
says
> Per-Anders Svd, Campaign Manager at Animal Rights Sweden, the
country's
> largest animal rights organization. "The decision marks an
important shift in
> official policy, since it implicitly recognizes the individual
moral worth of
> primates. Hopefully, the ban can be seen as a first step towards
extending
> moral and legal rights to millions of other animals suffering in
> experiments."
>
> Animal rights organizations all over the world have been
campaigning to end
> primate experiments for several years. The Swedish ban will
undoubtely
> generate hope and enthusiasm within the international community of
activists
> struggling to end primate experimentation in their respective
countries.
>
> "By raising public awareness through persistent campaigns,
activists have
> been able to push back long-standing prejudice surrounding the
moral standing
> of primates. There are no excuses for using primates in
experiments, and this
> is finally beginning to sink in - even at the level of policy-
making,"
> concludes Per-Anders Svd.
>
> For more information, please contact:
>
> Per-Anders Svd
> Animal Experimentation Campaign Manager
> Fbundet djurens rt / Animal Rights Sweden
> Box 2005
> 125 02 vsj
> SWEDEN
> Phone: +46 8 555 914 03
> Fax: +46 555 914 50
> Mobile: +46 733 32 39 44
> E-mail: per-anders.svard@d...
> Website: www.djurensratt.org <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26371 |
From: Alexander Ruiz |
Date: 4/12/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591 |
.htmlJust by the big boxoffice numbers on opening weekend, it clearly showed that
there was a huge interest in Planet of the Apes even after so many years and
even though Burton was directing it. Too bad Fox had their head up their
butts and continue to have it there today.
It was a great chance to revive a legend.
But, there's no point in dwelling in the past.
Al
>From: <veetus@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
>Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 20:09:19 -0700
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> Burton didn't go so far as say he messed up, but he did badmouth Fox
>about
>the scheduling. Zanuck has said for a sequel they need "a better story".
>Rick Baker privately called it "a bad movie" at John Chambers' funeral. And
>Zanuck's bad luck in getting a sequel going (despite the movie being
>profitable and the sequelmania in Hollywood) shows Fox knows they screwed
>up. Probably Burton will make excuses for it when "Big Fish" comes out at
>the end of the year. - - - Jeff
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Rutkoski" <johnnyx59@...>
>To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:52 PM
>Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Digest Number 1591
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> > his only redemption for me , would be him saying " i messed up on pota
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Having my baby
What a wonderful way of showing how much you love
me
Having my baby
What a lovely way of showing that you're thinking
of me
I can feel it, feel it growing
And I can see it in your eyes that you're happy in
knowing
That you're having my baby!
- - - Cornelius to Zira
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Back in February, for the 35th anniversary,
I posted this convention panel. For the previous posts, go to the archives for:
Pt. 1 - 2/8/03; Pt. 2 - 2/8/03; Pt. 3 - 2/10/03; Pt. 4 - 2/11/03. Now let's see
if we can conclude this turkey.
The participants are: Bill Blake, stage
Cornelius; Booth Colman, TV Zauis; Buck Kartalian, Julius; Bobby Porter, young
Cornelius from "Battle"; Austin Stoker, MacDonald # 2; and your moderator,
author Eric Greene. It took place on June 29, 1996.
WRITING THE FIRST FILM
AUDIENCE: Was there an attempt to follow the
book "Monkey Planet", and was Pierre Boulle involved at all?
ERIC GREENE: No, Pierre Boulle was not
involved. Pierre Boulle, in the early stages, tried to be involved. When Rod
Serling was working on the screenplay, Pierre Boulle would be in contact with
Arthur Jacobs and gave him his ideas about Serling's script. Boulle was not very
happy with the way the film was developing vis-a-vis the writing stages. Rod
Serling was the first writer to work on the script of POTA and, of course, he
was best known for "The Twilight Zone". But he'd had a very distinguished career
before that writing for live television drama. He'd wrote "Requiem for a
Heavyweight" and "Patterns" and a number of very respected live television
dramas in the '50's and '60's, and had a great reputation as a science-fiction
author as well. And he was the first one to try to adapt Boulle's book, and
tried to stay fairly close to what Boulle had done. He made some changes. But
the script really didn't gel as a piece of cinema.
AUDIENCE: It didn't translate.
ERIC GREENE: Yeah. It didn't translate
trying to go very literally the way Boulle had written it. And even so, Boulle
was not happy with the way Serling's screenplay was turning out; he at one point
had sent about 20 or so pages of a rough draft for Arthur Jacobs to read of his
own version of a script for POTA. And it read much more like a novel. I mean
long expositions about the technology that was being used, and the kind of
things that you'd get into in a book and you really can't have in a film. And
then he objected particularly strongly to the Statue of Liberty scene, which is
probably the most famous and loved scene in all the series, and is one of the
best known scenes from all of '60's film. He wrote a letter to Arthur Jacobs
after he read the script and he said he was dissatisfied with it and didn't like
the ending, and went on to write more in the letter, and then he came BACK to
the Statue of Libertyand said: "The more I think of it, the more I am convinced
that it is a TEMPTATION FROM THE DEVIL!". Exclamation point, underlined; he was
very, very adamant. And he said it was a temptation from the Devil that would
annoy and confuse the common man. And he was very strongly opposed to including
that scene. And then, of course, the scene was included.
And what was happening was, when they were
trying to stay close to Boulle's idea of the apes having a modern technological
civilization, the budget estimate was about $ 10 million dollars. At that point
Warner Bros. was supposed to do the picture, and Blake Edwards was supposed to
direct. And they were just not willing to spend that much money. So what they
did was rather intelligent. They decided to go with the look of the film they
wound up using, which was a primitive look, and it looked more like the apes
were living in kinda like stone dwellings. And that cut the budget in half,
because you didn't have to deal with building sets that looked like a modern
city, but down to the scale of apes. So that cut the budget in half and then
they were willing to do the film over at Fox.
And by that time Michael Wilson had taken
over the writing of the film. And Michael Wilson had written the screenplay for
"Bridge On the River Kwai", which was another Pierre Boulle book. But at the
time he was blacklisted, because he was an unfriendly witness to the McCarthy
hearings and he couldn't work openly in Hollywood. So ("Bridge") was actually
creditted to Pierre Boulle, who got the Oscar for the screenplay. And the big
joke was, everyone knew that Pierre Boulle couldn't speak English. And there was
no way he was going to write an Oscar-winning screenplay in English. Michael
Wilson took over the ("Apes") script, and what was on the screen was really
Michael Wilson's work, even though Rod Serling gets equal credit. And a lot of
the themes of Wilson's earlier work, like "Bridge On the River Kwai", "A Place
in the Sun" and "Lawrence of Arabia" really had made him the perfect person for
the project. He was very progressive, which is one of the reasons why he got in
trouble during the McCarthy era. His films dealt with class, dealt with ethnic
conflict, dealt with gender conflict, dealt with political issues in a very
intelligent way. And he was really the perfect choice for the film and did a
really excellent script. And by that time they had veered very much away from
Boulle's ideas. And Boulle wasn't very involved at that point. Boulle later
wrote a script for a sequel called "Planet of the Men", in which Taylor's son,
Taylor and Nova have a child, and their son leads a revolt of the humans that
goes back and takes over the apes, and destroys the apes. And the idea was,
whereas in POTA the tables had been turned, in POTM they would turn them back
the other way. And Arthur Jacobs rejected the script saying it wasn't cinematic,
but, oddly enough, a lot of the ideas that were in POTM wound up in the other
films in the series in different ways. So it had more cinematic quality than
Arthur Jacobs probably had originally thought. But that really was the extent of
Boulle's involvement. He really grew disinterested after that.
BOBBY PORTER: I have a question for you, Eric. Just
a thought. Pierre Boulle was French, right?
ERIC GREENE: Right.
BOBBY PORTER: The Statue of Liberty was given to us
by...who?
ERIC GREENE: By the French.
BOBBY PORTER: And he probably was pissed off that
it was all broken up, right?
ERIC GREENE: Ahh, that could be...
BOBBY PORTER: That's what it was! I think we solved
that problem.
ERIC GREENE: I don't think he was pissed off at the
idea, I think he was pissed off 'cause we didn't take care of it
properly.
BOBBY PORTER: Ahhh, see? We figured it
out.
ERIC GREENE: See, with digital technology, though,
you could now do a version of "Planet of the Apes" and go back and make it all
around a country. Taylor could be a Frenchman and it turns out the planet of the
apes, he's in France and instead of the Statue of Liberty you could see the
Eiffel Tower on the beach...(Or) have him see the Sphinx. All kinds of stuff.
There's a world of possibilities.
BOBBY PORTER: I've got a little quick comment to
make. I have actually never been to one of these (conventions) before. This is
really overwhelming for me. And the only reason why I'm here is because there's
a child actor that I'd worked with many years ago, 16 years ago. And we did a
little film called "Tut and Tuttle". If anybody in this room remembers that
film, you can leave now, OK? A little TV film, it wasn't bad. But it was
directed by a young man who was actually younger than me. At 28 years old I
thought that was absolutely outrageous that somebody younger than 28 could
actually direct a movie. And I said, "What does this guy know? How could he
possibly direct a movie?" And this young man's name was...ah, well, hang on,
I'll get it. He directed this thing about astronauts. "Apollo 13" or something
like that. Ronny Howard, 25 years old he was. And he only had 20 years of
experience in the business. And that's where Eric and I met. And 16 years later,
Eric calls me up and says, "My god, you're still alive!" And that's why I'm
here. A child actor whose done well for himself. Because I've doubled probably
500 child actors in my career and I can name on one hand the number who've
actually made something of themselves. And he's one of them. And I'd like to
give you guys a chance to give him a round of applause. (he acknowledges Eric,
to applause)
TO BE CONTINUED! - - - Jeff
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NO APE CHICKS
AUDIENCE: Where are the female gorillas and
orangutans in any of the scripts?
ERIC GREENE: I ask that in my
book.
AUDIENCE: What happened? Were they even
planned?
BOBBY PORTER: Why do you think they were so
pissed off?
AUDIENCE: No, it's just funny. You see all
these chimp females, but you don't see one single female gorilla or
orangutan.
ERIC GREENE: It's a good question. I really
don't have a good answer for it.
BUCK KARTALIAN: We were gay.
BOBBY PORTER: Speak for
yourself.
ERIC GREENE: Boulle's book was called "La
Planete de Singes", which means "Planet of the Gay Apes", actually.
Mistranslated all these years.
BOBBY PORTER: You notice the chimps were
always the more happy group. The gorillas were always going to war. A thing that
happens.
ERIC GREENE: That made Zira a very tired
ape. I'm not really sure there's a reason for it, to tell you the truth. And you
look at the films and the TV series and it's a very notable aspect. As a matter
of fact, I've heard of other fans who are wondering: where are the women amongst
the orangutans and gorillas? I don't know if it was an exclusive choice; "OK,
we're not going to have any women". They had Kim Hunter as Zira, who is an
excellent character. I mean, if you're looking for "female role models", she was
about as good as you can get. She was intelligent and courageous and she had
good values and she was strong. And there was Lisa, who was in "Conquest" and
"Battle". But aside from those, there really weren't any female apes. The only
explanation that I can come to is that really it was the power struggles in
society that were being played out in thses "Apes" movies and, for whatever
reason, consciously or not, the producers and the writers pictured these as
power struggles that were the domain of men. And that it really wasn't where
women were involved. And I don't think that they explicitly went out to be
sexist or to eliminate women, I just think it was the way they thought about
these kinds of issues, and the debates and all. And it might be, you know, I'd
have to look back, I don't know how many women, for instance, were in Congress
at the time, or had a large public role. It might just have been a case of the
politics in American society were dominated by the men and these people were
writing about American society. So that's what happened on the POTA as well. I
wish Mort Abrahams (a guest who had to leave early) were here because he could
speak to that better than I could. I don't know if anyone here has any ideas
about that?
BILL BLAKE: What I saw in it, Eric...in fact
this was partly addressed in Boulle's book, too. The chimpanzees were becoming
more the original thinkers and more progressive than the other two ape groups.
And I think that along with that would come the equality of the female
chimpanzees.
ERIC GREENE: OK, so the chimps were just
more advanced...
BILL BLAKE: Yeah.
BOBBY PORTER (a former chimp): Of course we
were.
BILL BLAKE: They had talked even in the
book, I believe, about orangutans being copiers. They copied everything that
they had learned from the past and the chimpanzees were now branching off and
that's why they feared the chimps so much, because of all those original,
progressive thoughts.
THE END OF "BATTLE"
ERIC GREENE: Right. Now I'm curious. Bobby
and Austin, if you know anything about this, let me know...Paul Dehn, who was
the writer for "Beneath", "Escape" and "Conquest", had originally written a
story paper for "Battle for the POTA" that was very different in tone. It was
much darker, it was much more violent. And they didn't use that. And I have a
few ideas about why. I was wondering if you know anything about the development
of the script or how the decisions were made. And why they didn't go with Paul
Dehn's script, but went with Joyce Corrington and William Corrington's
instead.
AUSTIN STOKER: No, I don't know anything
about that. In fact, you mentioned that to me before, I think the last time when
I first met you. I didn't know there was a prior script. Just the one I worked
with.
BOBBY PORTER: No, I didn't have any
knowledge of that either.
ERIC GREENE: Did you have a sense? When
"Conquest" was filmed, the writer (Paul Dehn) and the director, J. Lee Thompson,
set out to allegorize the Watts riots. It was a film that was explicitly and
politically based on the Watts riots. And in many ways it was a very radical
film, in which the hero was the leader of a slave revolt. And when the studio
saw the print they were very, very nervous about it. They thought they had a
very controversial picture on their hands. As a matter of fact, there was a
screening in Phoenix, a preview screening before it came out. And parents
apparently pulled their kids out of the theatre and said that it was too
violent, and were very upset about it. And the studio made J. Lee Thompson edit
the film, take out some of the violence, tone down the ending so it wasn't as
radical a message and to soften it a bit. And his impression was that at that
point Fox just wanted a kids' picture. They wanted something that at least
stayed in tone with the earlier films, that wasn't as dark and heavy. And I
don't know if you had that sense from Fox too, working on the picture, or maybe
this was something that Thompson got more directly, that they wanted to lighten
the tone a bit, make it something that was more accessible for families and all.
Was that something that had been applied to you?
BOBBY PORTER: Well, I think the philosophy
at Fox at the time was to appeal more toward the family, because I had done a
film prior to that called "Ace Eli and Rodger of the Skies", which had a very
dark ending. It was a very dramatic film about a man who finds himself suddenly
a single parent in the '30's, and the only thing he can do well is fly. And at
the end of the movie, Eric Shea, the little boy in the film, who ended up doing
"The Poseidon Adventure" and a number of Disney films, for whom I doubled, was
left an orphan because his father goes up and commits suicide. And that was
1971, it was a film that was directed by a very successful man and written by an
18 year old kid named Steven...(tries to think of his name) Spielberg. And they
changed the ending to that film, so maybe there was a push with Fox at the time
to soften the films. They'd come out with "The French Connection", which was a
very violent film, and I think they had come under some fire to appeal more to
the audiences, because Disney was doing so well and they wanted to be a bit more
like them. So that might have had some influence.
ERIC GREENE: I think part of it - now that I
think of it, I mentioned this in my book - is that it came out in 1973, that's
when "Battle" was released. We had been involved in the war in Vietnam for
almost a decade and there was a lot of internal conflict in the country, not
only about Vietnam but also about the civil rights movement and a lot of
domestic political issues. And the sense that I got in talking with J. Lee
Thompson and from watching the film is that they wanted to take it into the
direction where you could finally have the possibility of some kind of
reconciliation, that there was a kind of happy ending, if not some kind of sweet
ending that everyone could enjoy and feel good about. At least there was the
possibility that there could be reconciliation and peace one day. And Dehn's
original script didn't allow for that at all. And by the end of "Battle", the
Lawgiver says, you know, "I look at apes and humans living in friendship and
peace". And there's the sense that maybe everyone will be able to get it
together. And I think there was a trend; I don't know how large a trend but
there were a number of movies at the time that dealt somehow with forgiveness of
past wrongs and people trying to come together and make their peace with each
other. And my hunch on that is that it was an attempt, after all these years of
violence in these films, in which the alienation between the characters was so
large and seemed like it couldn't be resolved, that it was an attempt to at
least find some way of having the suggestion that there could be a happy ending
for the country. I'm not sure if I'm right about that but that's my take. (holds
up his book like the huckster he is)It's all very detailed in the
book!
RODDY MCDOWELL AND
THE APETEUR THEORY
AUDIENCE: I think it was the third
movie, "Escape"...Roddy McDowall took over as producer, I think it was, or
director.
ERIC GREENE: No, he didn't.
AUDIENCE: OK. Anyway, he was in all the
films, right?
BILL BLAKE: No. He was in four.
AUDIENCE: I was just wondering; did he have
any creative input on the direction or the script in these movies?
ERIC GREENE: I don't know. But I interviewed
the associate producer, Frank Capra, Jr., of the last three films and the writer
of the fifth, Joyce Corrington, and J. Lee Thompson, director of the fourth and
fifth film. And none of them mentioned Roddy McDowall as having a hand in the
direction of the series. I didn't get that sense. He very well might of had some
input on it, but if that's the case I didn't come across any suggestion of
it.
AUDIENCE: So he never did anything more than
the acting?
ERIC GREENE: Yeah.
BILL BLAKE: I know personally in
conversations with Roddythat he took great joy in doing the character because
it's so different from characters he's normally done. Any actor likes pushing
the limits, going across all the boards, so to speak, playing everything. It's
kind of a discovery process and he discovered a great deal in doing this
non-human character. It was completely groundbreaking for him.
NEXT: THE SENSES - SHATTERING
CONCLUSION! - - - Jeff
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So, does anybody know if Paul Dehn's version of "Battle of the POTA" exists somewhere?
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It's in the Arthur Jacobs archives. Eric
Greene synopsizes it in his book. - - - Jeff
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So, does anybody know if Paul Dehn's version of "Battle of the POTA"
exists somewhere?
Kassidy
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Here's the Dehn synopsis, as described by
Greene:
"In Dehn's story outline of "The
Battle for the POTA", thirteen years have passed since the ape revolt. Caesar
rules as an emperor, and the apes have reversed the power relations of
"Conquest" and enslaved the humans. MacDonald serves as Caesar's personal
servant and fears that the apes will exterminate the humans when they are no
longer useful. He asks the ape ruling council, made up of 3 chimpanzees, 3
gorillas and 2 orangutans, to allow human representation. A chimpanzee council
member Pan supports the idea, but he is overruled.
90% of humanity is under ape domination. The
apes control the territory to their south, but there are still human rebels in
the north. One of the human rebel leaders, Nimrod, is a former U.S. Army
general. His real name is General mendez, and he is the ancestor of the mutant
leader Mendez in "Beneath" [ I don't know if it says this in the outline or if
this is just Greene's interpretation]. Nimrod sends a representative to the
apes' capital with an ultimatum: set the humans free or Nimrod will destroy the
apes' city with a nuclear bomb. The messenger is killed, and Caesar assembles
the apes in shelters, allowing a limited number of humans with useful skills
into the shelters. Nimrod's airplane pilots drop the bomb and level the city.
Eventually, the survivors emerge from their
shelters and begin to rebuild the apes' city. Nimrod and his followers, scarred
and mutated by the nuclear radiation, later shell the rebuilt city. The apes
counterattack, fighting on horseback against humans in restored automobiles, and
they force the humans to retreat. Nimrod fires a projectile, which falls just
short of the ape army. The humans explain that the projectile will soon explode
and emit nerve gas that induces sterility in those who inhale it - Dehn
described it as a "genocide bomb". Fearing the destruction of their
reproductivity, the apes retreat, designating the land that will be affected by
the bomb the "Forbidden Zone". it is then revealed that the projectile was
empty, a bluff to frighten off the apes. The story ends with human children
releasing a baby chimpanzee, who had earlier been taken captive, declaring that
the young ape can do nothing with the humans but "pine and die" and that "he
belongs with his own kind". (Dehn's otline was dated July 5, '72).
Did you see the "Behind the pOTA"
documentary, Kass? - - - Jeff
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It's in the Arthur Jacobs archives. Eric
Greene synopsizes it in his book. - - - Jeff
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Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes]
Starcon '96, Pt. 6
So, does anybody know if Paul Dehn's version of "Battle of the POTA"
exists somewhere?
Kassidy
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Did you see the "Behind the pOTA" documentary, Kass? - - - Jeff
Yep, sure did, once late at night. Now that you mention it, it could bear another viewing :)
Kass
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Date: 4/14/2003 |
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I'm a new member of the group. Found what I hope is some interesting
info for my first post. I don't know if this has gone through the fan
circles yet, but here it is. I guess there are several companies out
there that do fan type audio plays, many having to do with Dr Who. I
don't know what kind of quality this company does, but I do know
there's some good stuff out there. While surfing there site I found
some info about a POTA audio they're doing (go to the audio section
of their site). I don't know anything about it other than what I
copied below. From the cast list it sounds like they are doing the tv
series. Sounds very cool. I hope there production values are high,
and they do this seriously. Be nice to see a whole series of these
audios.
Jay
Apes: VALUES (2003)
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Date: 4/14/2003 |
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.html.html In a message dated 4/14/03 9:28:35 AM Central Daylight Time, chewbie@... writes:
I'm a new member of the group. Found what I hope is some interesting
info for my first post. I don't know if this has gone through the fan
circles yet, but here it is. I guess there are several companies out
there that do fan type audio plays, many having to do with Dr Who. I
don't know what kind of quality this company does, but I do know
there's some good stuff out there. While surfing there site I found
some info about a POTA audio they're doing (go to the audio section
of their site). I don't know anything about it other than what I
copied below. From the cast list it sounds like they are doing the tv
series. Sounds very cool. I hope there production values are high,
and they do this seriously. Be nice to see a whole series of these
audios.
Jay
Hi, welcome to the group. I've been gone from this group for awhile, so I'll just say hi to everyone else. I've never heard of this group before, so thanks for posting it on the group. I think I'll order this CD when it comes out, just out of curiousity. The profits go to a good cause too. Looks cool, thanks for the link, and have a nice time in this group!
http://www.dunlopbob.freeserve.co.uk/apes.htm
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Hey, Joe!
The guys doing the CD are the guys who do
the Fanzine Simian Scrolls.
Dave Ballard, the Author, is the same author who wrote the story for the
Comic Book I plugged about a week ago.
He was also a member of this chat group for a while.
Michael
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From: CheeseGOTAS@...
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Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2003 6:50
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To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes]
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In a message dated 4/14/03 9:28:35
AM Central Daylight Time, chewbie@... writes:
I'm a new member of the group. Found
what I hope is some interesting
info for my first post. I don't know if this has gone through the fan
circles yet, but here it is. I guess there are several companies out
there that do fan type audio plays, many having to do with Dr Who. I
don't know what kind of quality this company does, but I do know
there's some good stuff out there. While surfing there site I found
some info about a POTA audio they're doing (go to the audio section
of their site). I don't know anything about it other than what I
copied below. From the cast list it sounds like they are doing the tv
series. Sounds very cool. I hope there production values are high,
and they do this seriously. Be nice to see a whole series of these
audios.
Jay
Hi, welcome to the group. I've been gone from this group for awhile, so
I'll just say hi to everyone else. I've never heard of this group before,
so thanks for posting it on the group. I think I'll order this CD when it
comes out, just out of curiousity. The profits go to a good cause
too. Looks cool, thanks for the link, and have a nice time in this group!
http://www.dunlopbob.freeserve.co.uk/apes.htm
-Joe
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Message: 26382 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/14/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] POTA audio |
.htmlWelcome to the group, Jay. I know Dave Ballard, I think he belongs to this
group. He writes many new POTA stories and is good.- - - Jeff
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From: "chewbie2004" <chewbie@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 7:25 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] POTA audio
> http://www.dunlopbob.freeserve.co.uk/argolis.htm
>
> I'm a new member of the group. Found what I hope is some interesting
> info for my first post. I don't know if this has gone through the fan
> circles yet, but here it is. I guess there are several companies out
> there that do fan type audio plays, many having to do with Dr Who. I
> don't know what kind of quality this company does, but I do know
> there's some good stuff out there. While surfing there site I found
> some info about a POTA audio they're doing (go to the audio section
> of their site). I don't know anything about it other than what I
> copied below. From the cast list it sounds like they are doing the tv
> series. Sounds very cool. I hope there production values are high,
> and they do this seriously. Be nice to see a whole series of these
> audios.
> Jay
>
>
>
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> Apes: VALUES (2003)
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Message: 26383 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: POTA audio |
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Just woke up to the news!
This 'press release' is premature to say the least - I can confirm
that the project is alive and well but a large number of issues have
yet to be resolved. It's still a long way from being ready.
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Message: 26384 |
From: chewbie2004 |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
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.html Well I'm sorry to hear that this project is still premature. I got
the impression with the cast list, description, and 2003 date that it
was in production and might be out soon. I'm kind of excited about it
though. I think audio would be a great way to bring back POTA, where
no television or movie would ever bring back any of the concepts from
the tv series. There's a company called Big Finish that is officially
licensed to do "Doctor Who" with the original casts. They are
fantastic. I'm sure this company won't have quite the same budget
though. You didn't say much Dave, so maybe you're not supposed to
talk about it yet, but can you tell us any more about the project? Is
the story going to be something that continues the tv series or
a "reimagining" ? What kind of quality is this company capable of
producing? I tried to play some kind of trailer from their site, but
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Message: 26385 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: POTA audio |
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.html Jay,
The story "Values" is an excellent fan fiction by Dave. It concerns an attempt
by Virdon and Burke to get back home and the repercussions involved for them
and for Galen. As the plot heats up, so does the action. The story contains
great character interaction and a satisfying amount of sci-fi to boot. I
really enjoyed it.
I blow the guys horn so he�ll keep writing stories in the tv fandom, but with
this and the comic he�s currently involved with I guess I can get in line :)
I am confident the cd will NOT disappoint!!!
The story is posted on my site if you want to read it at
www.planetoftheapestv.150m.com, under fan-fiction.
Kassidy
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Message: 26386 |
From: chewbie2004 |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
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Message: 26387 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "chewbie2004" <chewbie@a...> wrote:
> I do a little art work on the side, so I thought I'd share one I
did of our pal Roddy as we like him best. I just uploaded it to the
file section. Done with graphite pencils.
*** Welcome to the Yahoo POTA group, Chewbie, and let me be the first
to praise your Roddy/Galen illustration. Nice!
Now, let's see one of Urko--c'mon, I just KNOW you've done one of
him! It's always more fun to draw the gorillas--just look at the 29
covers of the Marvel POTA magazine: with few rare exceptions it's
gorillas... Gorillas... GORILLAS!!!
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Message: 26388 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
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.html I LOVE IT! Can I put it on my website, por favor? Do you have any
more? I 2nd Patrick, I'd love to see an Urko drawing. I am
extremely partial to the television series. Really a great job,
you're very talented. I don't know if Neil's still on this group,
too, but he also does some great POTA illustrations
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Message: 26389 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
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has a greenish tint, but I'm betting that's just in the photo of it.
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Message: 26390 |
From: Neil |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
.htmlYeah, I'm still part of this group but don't visit very often (been a
bit busy on certain projects). Must say I echo Kassiy's comments
though, that's a really nice picture.
Neil
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> I LOVE IT! Can I put it on my website, por favor? Do you have any
> more? I 2nd Patrick, I'd love to see an Urko drawing. I am
> extremely partial to the television series. Really a great job,
> you're very talented. I don't know if Neil's still on this group,
> too, but he also does some great POTA illustrations
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Message: 26391 |
From: chewbie2004 |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
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.html Thanks for the comments everyone. I did this about a year ago, and I
do actually have a pic of Urko on my table to do eventually, I just
have a couple other projects first, so it might be a while.
I'd be honored if you wanted to post my drawing on your excellent
site Kassidy. Anyone feel free to use it if they want, I don't mind.
The picture was green because of it was taken with a digital camera,
and that's the way the lighting made it look. We've since gotten our
scanner to work, so I redid the picture. It's a little bit sharper
and white now.
I'd also like to do a good one of Taylor from the 1st film if anyone
has a good close up photo (full head shot) they can scan. I'll have
to pull out my Apes mags to see if there are any in there.
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Message: 26392 |
From: chewbie2004 |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: Roddy Drawing |
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know even the fans seem to be split on it's merits, but I think it's
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Message: 26393 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: tv site |
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Re: my pota tv series site: I've apparently just had a 10,000th visitor (and over 21,000 hits total on the site pages) according to 150m.com and apparently blew out my transfer limit for the day. Lots of folks been hitting the fan fiction page, believe it or not, which pleases me to no end!
Anyway, you can't see me but I'm throwing confetti :)
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Message: 26394 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 4/15/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Roddy Drawing |
.htmlchewbie2004 <chewbie@...> wrote:
Oh, I also have to agree with you Kassidy, I love the tv series.
++See, I knew I liked this guy :)
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Message: 26395 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/18/2003 |
| Subject: Check out PLANET OF THE APES SWEEPSTAKES |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26396 |
From: Dean |
Date: 4/23/2003 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes |
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Hello fellow ape lovers!
You will not believe what I have come accross....I
have the entire collection of 6 movie theatre vinyl banners that are over 4 feet
by 6 feet each, and feature the stars from Tim Burton's remake of Planet of the
Apes!!!
They are in mint condition and include the faces
of:
Thade (Tim Roth)
Leo Davidson (Mark Wahlberg)
Ari (Helena Bonham Carter)
Deanna (Estella Warren)
Limbo (Paul Giamatti)
Attar (Michael Clark Duncan)
These are gorgeous, mint condition banners, large
enough put together to probably cover the walls entire in one rec room or
other. I'm selling the group for only $100 US plus shipping and handling,
so whom ever wants them, email me at peaceman@... before it's too
late! I'm thinking some lucky fan is gonna snatch these up fast.
Email me if you are interested.....SEE MY PICS BELOW...they don't do these
banners justice!
Rosanne
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Message: 26397 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/24/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes |
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Cougar
Get in
line buddy!
Seriously though, this is a very good buy for POTA 2001
fans.
Michael
Hello fellow ape lovers!
You will not believe what I have come
accross....I have the entire collection of 6 movie theatre vinyl banners that
are over 4 feet by 6 feet each, and feature the stars from Tim Burton's remake
of Planet of the Apes!!!
They are in mint condition and include the faces
of:
Thade (Tim Roth)
Leo Davidson (Mark Wahlberg)
Ari (Helena Bonham Carter)
Deanna (Estella Warren)
Limbo (Paul Giamatti)
Attar (Michael Clark Duncan)
These are gorgeous, mint condition banners, large
enough put together to probably cover the walls entire in one rec room or
other. I'm selling the group for only $100 US plus shipping and
handling, so whom ever wants them, email me at peaceman@... before it's too
late! I'm thinking some lucky fan is gonna snatch these up fast.
Email me if you are interested.....SEE MY PICS BELOW...they don't do these
banners justice!
Rosanne </ font
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Message: 26398 |
From: Dean |
Date: 4/24/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Planet of the Apes |
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Michael,
Are you interested in the POTA banners? If security
is an issue, I certainly can post them on ebay and give you the item number with
buy it now. Let me know.
Rosanne
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Subject: RE: [Planet of the Apes] Planet
of the Apes
Cougar
Get
in line buddy!
Seriously though, this is a very good buy for POTA
2001 fans.
Michael
Hello fellow ape lovers!
You will not believe what I have come
accross....I have the entire collection of 6 movie theatre vinyl banners
that are over 4 feet by 6 feet each, and feature the stars from Tim Burton's
remake of Planet of the Apes!!!
They are in mint condition and include the
faces of:
Thade (Tim Roth)
Leo Davidson (Mark Wahlberg)
Ari (Helena Bonham Carter)
Deanna (Estella Warren)
Limbo (Paul Giamatti)
Attar (Michael Clark Duncan)
These are gorgeous, mint condition banners,
large enough put together to probably cover the walls entire in one rec room
or other. I'm selling the group for only $100 US plus shipping and
handling, so whom ever wants them, email me at peaceman@... before it's
too late! I'm thinking some lucky fan is gonna snatch these up
fast. Email me if you are interested.....SEE MY PICS BELOW...they
don't do these banners justice!
Rosanne </ font
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Message: 26399 |
From: Dean |
Date: 4/24/2003 |
| Subject: Banners on ebay |
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Hello everyone!
I have now posted my movie theater banners for the
Tim Burton remake movie on ebay...the item number is #2171886179
Get these while you still can!
Rosanne
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26400 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/25/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Russo's Book |
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Good
idea.
I'll
see if I can dig up his address.
Anyone
know how to contact Russo?
Michael
-----Original
Message----- From: sand_hill_school
[sand_hill_school@...] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:48
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Russo's
Book
Just to add a little to that.... it is actually a good story
of the behind the scenes dialog and activities. Because it is
written as individual accounts of each movie it is easy to read piecemeal
as you study the movies. The pictures are wonderful! To
Russo's credit, the whole book is very well done. (The index makes
it a fairly handy reference tool.) It's too bad he didn't receive
more feedback from the book. One of my daughters particularly loves
the book, and she is the one who has become a very loyal Apes (and
Roddy) fan ! Maybe we should write him a note.
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sand_hill_school" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote: > Probably, kind of. > > >
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
wrote: > > Have you read it yet Helen?
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Message: 26401 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/25/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] RE: [PotaDG] Re: Russo's Book |
.html.html In a message dated 4/25/03 6:41:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:
Good idea.
I'll see if I can dig up his address.
Anyone know how to contact Russo?
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: sand_hill_school [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Russo's Book
Just to add a little to that.... it is actually a good story of the
behind the scenes dialog and activities. Because it is written as
individual accounts of each movie it is easy to read piecemeal as
you study the movies. The pictures are wonderful! To Russo's
credit, the whole book is very well done. (The index makes it a
fairly handy reference tool.) It's too bad he didn't receive more
feedback from the book. One of my daughters particularly loves the
book, and she is the one who has become a very loyal Apes (and
Roddy) fan ! Maybe we should write him a note.
Joe Russo can be reached thru www.joerusso.com
Click here: JOE RUSSO <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 26402 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/25/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] RE: [PotaDG] Re: Russo's Book |
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Thanks
Rory
In a message dated 4/25/03 6:41:43 PM Eastern Daylight
Time, whitty@... writes:
Good idea.
I'll see if I can dig up his address.
Anyone know how to contact Russo?
Michael
-----Original
Message----- From: sand_hill_school
[sand_hill_school@...] Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003
10:48 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG]
Re: Russo's Book
Just to add a little to that.... it is actually a good story
of the behind the scenes dialog and activities. Because it is
written as individual accounts of each movie it is easy to read
piecemeal as you study the movies. The pictures are
wonderful! To Russo's credit, the whole book is very well
done. (The index makes it a fairly handy reference tool.)
It's too bad he didn't receive more feedback from the book. One
of my daughters particularly loves the book, and she is the one who
has become a very loyal Apes (and Roddy) fan ! Maybe we should
write him a note.
Joe Russo can be reached thru
www.joerusso.com
Click here: JOE
RUSSO
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Message: 26403 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/25/2003 |
| Subject: (no subject) |
.html.html UNBELIEVABLE!!! I guess I won't be going to this movie!
FILM SCORE FRIDAY 4/25/03
By Scott Bettencourt
In what is for this columnist the most depressing film music news in a long time, Jerry Goldsmith's score for Richard Donner's film of Michael Crichton's time travel adventure TIMELINE has been rejected, and the new score will be written by rising composer Brian Tyler. Tyler was reportedly hired on the basis of his recent score for The Hunted, which, like Timeline, is a Paramount release. The Hunted was directed by William Friedkin, the Oscar winning maker of the classics The French Connection and The Exorcist.
Tyler's hiring may have something to do with the fact that Friedkin is married to Paramount president Sherry Lansing. Many fans have been shocked by the score's rejection, especially since Goldsmith scored The Omen for Donner, and that film not only won Goldsmith his only Oscar but put Donner on the map as an A-list director. But let's not forget that Michael Kamen's score for Donner's Assassins was rejected, even after Kamen had scored three Lethal Weapon films for the director (Kamen later collaborated again with Donner on Lethal Weapon 4). Let us also not forget that the last time Donner directed a medieval adventure film, Ladyhawke, he ended up with a score that no one would mistake for the work of Korngold or Rozsa.
Film music fans are, not surprisingly, outraged. Louis Banalaki wrote in asking "Who the hell was the idiot who rejected Jerry Goldsmith's score to TIMELINE???????", while reader "Isaac I Bet" writes in with a link to a petition where fans can request that Goldsmith's score be restored.
If you feel like venting your displeasure with Goldsmith's rejection, this is a good way to go about it. However, if you actually think you're going to influence the studio's decision, I think you're wasting your time. I don't mean to sound like one of those Message Board writers who acts like they know everything about how the movie business works, but my experience with the studios suggests that they really don't care about the opinions of fans (especially film music fans), and in one sense they're right -- if Goldsmith's score were truly wrong for the film, and Tyler's were better, then it shouldn't matter what Goldsmith's fans think. However, since Goldsmith is my favorite creator in any medium while Tyler is, at best, promising, I'm understandably skeptical on this point.
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Message: 26404 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: (no subject) |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> UNBELIEVABLE!!! I guess I won't be going to this movie!
>
At least we know that these days the Goldsmith score will
probably eventually see release anyway.
I take it then you're a fan, Rory? What are your favourite scores?
Dave <.html
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Message: 26405 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
.html.html In a message dated 4/26/03 3:47:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 4print@... writes:
At least we know that these days the Goldsmith score will
probably eventually see release anyway.
I take it then you're a fan, Rory? What are your favourite scores?
Dave
PLANET OF THE APES, of course! Then, THE WIND AND THE LION, THE SAND PEBBLES, PATTON, POLTERGEIST, THE OMEN, HOUR OF THE GUN, and just about everything else he's scored.
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Message: 26406 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
.html--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> PLANET OF THE APES, of course! Then, THE WIND AND THE
LION, THE SAND
> PEBBLES, PATTON, POLTERGEIST, THE OMEN, HOUR OF
THE GUN, and just about
> everything else he's scored.
Hmmmm, more 'vintage' Goldsmith than recent it would seem. I
think POTA is without doubt a classic score but it's not really one
you whistle on the way to work is it?
I prefer his more 'melodic' scores - 'Powder' and 'Lionheart' are
among my faves. (I enjoyed 'The Mummy' too) I saw him perform
live once in London which was pretty awesome. Latest
Goldsmith buy was 'Take a hard ride' awesome main title but the
rest of it didn't grab me on first hearing.
I have a spare copy of '100 rifles' if you want it.
Dave
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Message: 26407 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
.html.html In a message dated 4/26/03 12:20:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 4print@... writes:
I prefer his more 'melodic' scores - 'Powder' and 'Lionheart' are
among my faves. (I enjoyed 'The Mummy' too) I saw him perform
live once in London which was pretty awesome. Latest
Goldsmith buy was 'Take a hard ride' awesome main title but the
rest of it didn't grab me on first hearing.
I have a spare copy of '100 rifles' if you want it.
Dave
I have 100 RIFLES and POWDER and LIONHEART and THE MUMMY. I also like RUDY and the last Goldsmith score I bought was THE SUM OF ALL FEARS.
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Message: 26408 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/26/2003 |
| Subject: live auction |
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There's a "Ultimate Sci-Fi Auction" going on
at www.ebayliveauctions.com for
those who are interested. Don't know if there'll be POTA stuff or not. - - -
Jeff
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Message: 26409 |
From: Steve |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Apes Comics & Records For Sale!!!!! |
| Group: pota |
Message: 26410 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Apes Comics & Records For Sale!!!!! |
.htmlWhat is this, an infomercial group? We need to get this group up and
running again. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve " <beakerbloke@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 2:18 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Apes Comics & Records For Sale!!!!!
> Thought this might interest some of you these comics are 29 years old
> and still sealed, amazing!!
>
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> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
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Message: 26411 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: The group |
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Yeah,
only 950 posts this month.....time to hit the panic button!
Seriously though folks, I am going to attempt to bring new news every
Monday on various Ape projects (well, Monday here is Sunday nearly everywhere
else...).
One
Monday I'll give you an update of the activities of the Official International
Planet of the Apes Fan Club. I'm thinking maybe on the same day I'll call
for updates on where Ape Chronicles and Simian Scrolls are at.....you OK with
that Jeff and John? Maybe also a web-site update too??? Mez,
Kass???
Then
the next Monday will be about Collectibles....classic stuff, what's in the
making (Apemania, Chris Hight's etc.
The
following Monday would be good to dedicate to Fanfic....maybe get a run down on
what people are doing?
Ideas
on this anyone?
Michael
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Message: 26412 |
From: Alan Maxwell |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
.html"Dave B" < 4print@...> wrote:
> Hmmmm, more 'vintage' Goldsmith than recent it would seem. I
> think POTA is without doubt a classic score but it's not really one
> you whistle on the way to work is it?
Nope, that honour belongs to Escape from the PotA!
> I prefer his more 'melodic' scores - 'Powder' and 'Lionheart' are
> among my faves.
For combination of melody and innovative sounds, I'd have to pick
Logan's Run as my fave. Which reminds me, I must get round to getting
the FSM release of that one.
> (I enjoyed 'The Mummy' too) I saw him perform
> live once in London which was pretty awesome.
I saw him a few years back too, in Glasgow, and it really was
something else. The highlight for me was the suite of music from PotA,
but there were plenty of other highlights too - Patton was pretty
rousing stuff and it's tough to beat a live orchestra performing the
theme from the Waltons!
> Latest
> Goldsmith buy was 'Take a hard ride' awesome main title but the
> rest of it didn't grab me on first hearing.
Picked that one up myself recently, and I love it. One of his best
western scores in my opinion. Although...
> I have a spare copy of '100 rifles' if you want it.
... I also love this one!
FSM have certainly done a lot of good releases of Goldsmith stuff, so
before I go I'll recommend one more - The Illustrated Film. Great
book, average film, wonderful music!
Alan <.html
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From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores! |
.htmlI watched that USA thing, "Helen of Troy". The music was by Joel
Goldsmith- - - any relation? Reminded me of Peter Gabriel's "Last Temptation
of Christ" music, maybe a "lite" version. The movie was OK as wooden Tv
miniseries go. But seeing as how this is the oldest surviving story in
Western culture ("The Iliad"), it deserves more. Of course it will hit the
big screen as "Troy" next year, directed by Wolfgang Petersen and starring
Brad Pitt, Eric Bana, Orlando Bloom and Peter O'Toole. I'm sure they'll
stick Ben Affleck in there somewhere. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Goldsmith scores!
> "Dave B" <4print@...> wrote:
> > Hmmmm, more 'vintage' Goldsmith than recent it would seem. I
> > think POTA is without doubt a classic score but it's not really one
> > you whistle on the way to work is it?
>
> Nope, that honour belongs to Escape from the PotA!
>
> > I prefer his more 'melodic' scores - 'Powder' and 'Lionheart' are
> > among my faves.
>
> For combination of melody and innovative sounds, I'd have to pick
> Logan's Run as my fave. Which reminds me, I must get round to getting
> the FSM release of that one.
>
> > (I enjoyed 'The Mummy' too) I saw him perform
> > live once in London which was pretty awesome.
>
> I saw him a few years back too, in Glasgow, and it really was
> something else. The highlight for me was the suite of music from PotA,
> but there were plenty of other highlights too - Patton was pretty
> rousing stuff and it's tough to beat a live orchestra performing the
> theme from the Waltons!
>
> > Latest
> > Goldsmith buy was 'Take a hard ride' awesome main title but the
> > rest of it didn't grab me on first hearing.
>
> Picked that one up myself recently, and I love it. One of his best
> western scores in my opinion. Although...
>
> > I have a spare copy of '100 rifles' if you want it.
>
> ... I also love this one!
>
> FSM have certainly done a lot of good releases of Goldsmith stuff, so
> before I go I'll recommend one more - The Illustrated Film. Great
> book, average film, wonderful music!
>
> Alan
>
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Message: 26414 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 4/27/2003 |
| Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] The group |
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I think we should bring back "Flame War
Wednesday"; that always gets the group hopping. If it's on a specific day then
those who don't want to participate can ignore it. All in favor? - - -
Jeff
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Subject: [Planet of the Apes] The
group
Yeah, only 950 posts this month.....time to hit the panic
button!
Seriously though folks, I am going to attempt to bring new news every
Monday on various Ape projects (well, Monday here is Sunday nearly everywhere
else...).
One
Monday I'll give you an update of the activities of the Official International
Planet of the Apes Fan Club. I'm thinking maybe on the same day I'll
call for updates on where Ape Chronicles and Simian Scrolls are at.....you OK
with that Jeff and John? Maybe also a web-site update too??? Mez,
Kass???
Then
the next Monday will be about Collectibles....classic stuff, what's in the
making (Apemania, Chris Hight's etc.
The
following Monday would be good to dedicate to Fanfic....maybe get a run down
on what people are doing?
Ideas on this anyone?
Michael
What is this, an infomercial group? We need to get this group up
and running again. - - - Jeff </ font
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