Don Pedro Colley said the character was named Onogoro. He was so pissed
about seeing him called "Negro" in the credits there's no way the script HE
used had the character called Negro. Fun fact: Colley was in George Lucas'
first sci-fi movie "THX 1138" and remembers Lucas talking about this "Star
Wars" thing he wanted to do. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "lawbody2003" <thaddeus40@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Planet of the Apes] Sideshow Ongaro.


>
>
>
>
> >
> > > I think the name Ongaro was just added later to the vhs credits
> >
> > What copy did you see this spelling on? I have three VHS tapes of
> BENEATH and
> > none of them say anything other than "Negro"
>
>
> I was just guessing. I thought in the original movie he was
> identified as "negro" in the film credits, anyway that's what he is
> called in the original Dehn script. So the name Ongaro came later.
> Anyway it seems very similar semantically to "negro" so I just
> assumed it was a re-write to mask the obvious racial insensitivity.
>
>
> Just imagine if Ongaro was the only one with an actual name and
> everyone else was named "white guy 1", "white guy 2" , "white girl"
> and so on. I'm sure the reverse must have dawned on someone, hence
> the name change.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One
Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much
more...
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Are they the nuclear or biological 1/6 scale circus posters?...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Ray" <ursus3978@a...> wrote:
>
>
> This just in:
>
> US troops just located a hidden cache of 1/6 scale circus posters
in
> Iraq.
>
> The world breathes a sigh of relief.
>
>
> (sorry. I couldn't resist)
>
> -Ray
>
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...>
wrote:
> >
> > > A circus poster is an instrument of destruction?!?
> > >
> > > 8-)
> > >
> > > Hunter

If we get enough letters sent, we might, at last, get some really
cool TV Series figures.Whether you are a fan of the TV Series or not,
the characters would be fantastic action figures with some excellent
potential accessories.It's a great opportunity and anybody who can
spare a stamp, PLEASE JOIN THE CAMPAIGN! John, Scrolls.

Lidsville is possibly the earliest show I remember as a kid
I used to stare at a lidsville coloring book or something when I was real
young
Land Of The Lost is my all time favorite TV show but i'm not sure if I
actually saw any of the Krofft shows in their original runs as I was born in
1971 and just a bit too young for these classics

.html Adiposo? Isn't that original. Isn't adipose fatty tissue? Elaine<.html

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:

> Adiposo? Isn't that original. Isn't adipose fatty tissue? Elaine

Very good thinking, Elaine. Clearly they were going for descriptive
names, then!

Helen


ad·i·pose ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-ps)
adj.
Of, relating to, or composed of animal fat; fatty.

n.
The fat found in adipose tissue.

Hi everyone, lost touch for a while but i'm back and looking forward
to talking to you all.

Just curious if any one has ordered the new Sideshow Apes and if so,
which one, or ones?

I have ordered

The Mutant Leader
The Mutant Jailer
Astronaut Brent
Beneath Taylor exclusive
Caesar
and of course, The Mighty Ursus.
I wanted to order 2 of the Ursus figure so I could put one on my
desk at work, but Sideshow wouldn't let me :(

Luke I have ordered every single one and yes it's
costing a lot of money but since they are all spaced
out it's not too bad. It seems that my goal in life is
to own every single bit of POTA material!!. When will
the madness end?? And then there's Palisades!! Poor
house here I come!

Tim

--- luke_the_drifter52 <JLKINSER1970@...>
wrote:

>
>
> Just curious if any one has ordered the new Sideshow
> Apes and if so,
> which one, or ones?
>
> I have ordered
>
> The Mutant Leader
> The Mutant Jailer
> Astronaut Brent
> Beneath Taylor exclusive
> Caesar
> and of course, The Mighty Ursus.
> I wanted to order 2 of the Ursus figure so I could
> put one on my
> desk at work, but Sideshow wouldn't let me :(
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

I've ordered all of those as well, but only Ursus, Jailer and Taylor through
Sideshow. I ordered the rest through alteregocomics.com (cheaper).

They probably only let you order 1 Ursus because that is the exclusive version with
the machine gun. If you want another (non-exclusive), you can get it from another
source.

Matt

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@h...> wrote:
>
>
> Just curious if any one has ordered the new Sideshow Apes and if so,
> which one, or ones?
>
> I have ordered
>
> The Mutant Leader
> The Mutant Jailer
> Astronaut Brent
> Beneath Taylor exclusive
> Caesar
> and of course, The Mighty Ursus.
> I wanted to order 2 of the Ursus figure so I could put one on my
> desk at work, but Sideshow wouldn't let me :(

Apes seems to be one of those concepts that evolves with the times.
With all that's happened over the last few years and with Guantanamo
Bay being one reaction, I've re-visited Aldo's attitude in Battle.
Here's a guy faced with a vague but real, to him, threat of
destruction, a threat aimed at his people and culture, possibly
backed up by weapons of mass destruction.He has, within his society,
a potential threat, namely humans, who only a matter of years earlier
were torturing and enslaving his kind and might well support humans
attacking from outside.When Aldo locks the humans in the corral, is
he wrong? John, Scrolls.

Hi, folks! My name´s Arthur and I´m from Brazil - Rio de Janeiro, to be more
precise.

Well, the Planet of the Apes TV series were presented for a long time here in
Brazil and the films are cult movies, as well as in the US.

I´ve been pretty much interested in rewatching the tv series episodes and I
know they are available in DVD in the US, but not here in Brazil. That´s a real
pity.

What impresses me the most about POTA is that it is still up-to-date in terms
of how badly man have been treating animals and the way we deal with the danger
of nuclear weapons.

Well, that´s all for now. I´ll be getting in touch again soon.



_______________________

What Aldo did with the humans may not have been 'right', but I think what he did was just.
His actions were out of panic and reflect what the US government did with the Japanese-
Americans during WW2.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
>
>
> Apes seems to be one of those concepts that evolves with the times.
> With all that's happened over the last few years and with Guantanamo
> Bay being one reaction, I've re-visited Aldo's attitude in Battle.
> Here's a guy faced with a vague but real, to him, threat of
> destruction, a threat aimed at his people and culture, possibly
> backed up by weapons of mass destruction.He has, within his society,
> a potential threat, namely humans, who only a matter of years earlier
> were torturing and enslaving his kind and might well support humans
> attacking from outside.When Aldo locks the humans in the corral, is
> he wrong? John, Scrolls.

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/24/05 8:01:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, afaf@... writes:

I´ve been pretty much interested in rewatching the tv series episodes and I
know they are available in DVD in the US, but not here in Brazil. That´s a real
pity.

Aren't you able to order DVDs from the US, or won't they play in your DVD player because you're a different region?

-- Rory<.html <.html

Yeah, they won´t play in my DVD because they´re from a different region. US is
region 1, Brazil is 4.



Citando Haristas@...:

> In a message dated 2/24/05 8:01:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> afaf@... writes:
>
>
> > I´ve been pretty much interested in rewatching the tv series episodes and I
> > know they are available in DVD in the US, but not here in Brazil. That´s a
> > real
> > pity.
> >
>
> Aren't you able to order DVDs from the US, or won't they play in your DVD
> player because you're a different region?
>
> -- Rory
>

_______________________

.html Welcome, Arthur. Glad to meet you and talk apes with us. Elaine<.html

.html One could argue that Aldo has legitimate concerns about humans, knowing the human species, we all agree that some humans would want to return to full power over the apes. Wasn't Aldo mistreated when he was in captivity? This also explains his mistrust and fear of humans. Elaine<.html

.html Sideshow wouldn't let you order two of Ursus?! What is their philosophy behind that? They are a weird business. Elaine<.html

I'm surprised Aldo didn't have more of a following. Sure Caesar led
them to freedom, but freedom from the same creatures who just years
earlier had enslaved and tortured their entire race. Now they are to
live together? I think this was one of the many downsides to Battle.
They took a character filled with such emotion and rage from Conquest
and "softened" him for the sake of the family audience. Caesar's
distrust and anger for the human race was justified in Conquest and
that's what made it such a emotionaly driven film. I think their
would have been many who would not have been able to let those
feelings go so easily. Living in peace with man would be hard for any
ape who had been subjected to "reconditioning". Aldo's distrust of
man both in and outside of their ape city is understandable.

.html <.html

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:

> Sideshow wouldn't let you order two of Ursus?! What is their philosophy
> behind that? They are a weird business. Elaine

I think because the version on the Sideshow site is an exclusive, limited to 500
pieces. The exclusive version comes with a sub-machine gun, while the regular
version doesn't. They probably won't let you order two in order to be fair to everyone.

Matt

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:

> I know this has been discussed before, but what is the difference between the
> marauding
> gorilla and the gorilla soldier? Elaine

The maurder (which is the Sideshow exclusive version, limited to 500 pieces), comes
with a pole with a noose on the end (for capturing humans around the neck). The
standard gorilla soldier (called an enforcer) is the same figure, but with a rifle.

My friend, Michael Crawford, did a review of both figures on his toy site. If you wan't,
you can check them out here. If you search the site, he also has reviews for Zaius,
Cornelius, Zira and Taylor:

http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_011705a.htm

Matt

Thanks, Elaine. POTA makes me remind of my childhood, when I used to watch the
Tv series. I was around 9 or 10 years old at the time they were presented here
in Brazil by Globo TV Network.

I´d like to know something: is there any CD available with films soundtrack? I
just love it. Does anyone know?

Citando taebokitti@...:

> Welcome, Arthur. Glad to meet you and talk apes with us. Elaine
>

_______________________

Is there a non-exclusive Ursus?

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Matt" <mtotsky@y...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > Sideshow wouldn't let you order two of Ursus?! What is their
philosophy
> > behind that? They are a weird business. Elaine
>
>
> I think because the version on the Sideshow site is an exclusive,
limited to 500
> pieces. The exclusive version comes with a sub-machine gun, while
the regular
> version doesn't. They probably won't let you order two in order to
be fair to everyone.
>
> Matt

Hi Arthur,

I have a cd with the Original motion picture soundtrack for the
Planet of the Apes. It also has "Suite" on it from Escape. Is that
what you are looking for? I don't know what else is out there.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
>
>
>> I´d like to know something: is there any CD available with
films soundtrack? I
> just love it. Does anyone know?
>
> Citando taebokitti@a...:
>
> > Welcome, Arthur. Glad to meet you and talk apes with us. Elaine
> >
>
>
>
>
_________

What´s your opinion about some of the mistakes people could find in POTA, the
first movie? Here aresome of them:

The first exterior shots of the spacecraft in the desert lake show the
spaceship's hatch door already gone... before the astronauts blow it off with
an explosive charge minutes later in the movie.


Other: This is a mistake between the first 2 Apes films. In the beginning of
the first Apes movie as the ship is sinking Taylor looks at the Earth time
chronometer and it says 11-25-3978 as the date. In Beneath the Planet of the
Apes Brent tells his skipper that the year is 3955. They were following
Taylor's trajectory and Brent does meet Taylor but according to the second film
Brent got there 20 years earlier than Taylor.


Continuity: When the 3 of them are swimming and one sees foot prints, he calls
to Taylor - when Taylor starts out of the water his hair is wet, but when he
stands up out of the water it is dry.


Continuity: At the end of the movie, just before discovering the ruins of the
Statue of Liberty, the horse and riders are traveling along the beach. If you
look closely, you can see a parallel set of hoofprints in the sand. Apparently
the surf didn't wash away the evidence of a previous take.


Continuity: Towards the end of the movie, at the cave, you can see that the
rifle Charlton Heston has been firing has no magazine inserted.


Continuity: Shortly after the astronauts crash land in the desert lake, they
discover that the female crew mate is dead, her body is mummified due to an air
leak in her cubicle. The mistake is that when her body is first seen, the arms
and hands are folded across her chest. Seconds later, when the water starts
rushing in, the point of view from inside her cubicle shows her arms at her
sides.


Revealing: At the beginning of the movie, when the hatch is blown on the ship,
you can see both windows blow off the ship and a piece of the nose by the
window almost blow off. Looks like the special effects department got a little
carried away with the explosives.


Continuity: At the end of the movie when Taylor and the woman find the ancient
ruins of the Statue of Liberty, their distance from the statue seems to change
between shots. In the first shot (when it only shows them and the torch) they
seem to be almost next to it. In the next shot (when it only shows them and the
crown) they are farther away. And in the last shot (when it shows Taylor
kneeling from behind and the full torso of the statue) he is even farther away
from it.


_______________________

Wow, that was exactly what I was looking for! Where and how can I get it? Do
you know?

Thank you very much! Arthur

Citando ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...>:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Arthur,
>
>
>
> I have a cd with the Original motion picture soundtrack for the
>
> Planet of the Apes. It also has "Suite" on it from Escape. Is that
>
> what you are looking for? I don't know what else is out there.
>
>
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >> I´d like to know something: is there any CD available with
>
> films soundtrack? I
>
> > just love it. Does anyone know?
>
> >
>
> > Citando taebokitti@a...:
>
> >
>
> > > Welcome, Arthur. Glad to meet you and talk apes with us. Elaine
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> _________

_______________________

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:

>
>
> Is there a non-exclusive Ursus?
>
> Helen

Yes, check the on-line retailers like alteregocomics.com.


Matt

www.amazon.com had mine both new ($17) and used ($7). They've got
Beneath, Conquest, Battle, and Burton's too. I don't know if there
is a cd for Escape. I didn't find it. I'm guessing you can buy
from Amazon.com in Brazil?

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
>
>
> Wow, that was exactly what I was looking for! Where and how can I
get it? Do
> you know?
>
> Thank you very much! Arthur
>
> Citando ape_mom <sand_hill_school@y...>:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Arthur,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a cd with the Original motion picture soundtrack for the
> >
> > Planet of the Apes. It also has "Suite" on it from Escape. Is
that
> >
> > what you are looking for? I don't know what else is out there.
> >
> >
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >> I´d like to know something: is there any CD available with
> >
> > films soundtrack? I
> >
> > > just love it. Does anyone know?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Citando taebokitti@a...:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > Welcome, Arthur. Glad to meet you and talk apes with us.
Elaine
> >
> > > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
_________ _________

Found it. Thanks, Matt. Huge savings.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Matt" <mtotsky@y...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is there a non-exclusive Ursus?
> >
> > Helen
>
> Yes, check the on-line retailers like alteregocomics.com.
>
>
> Matt

If you check ebay they have CD's for the other films as well. Film
Score Siver Age Classics put out a limited to 3000 pressed copies CD
containing the original Beneath the Planet of the Apes soundtrack by
Leonard Rosenman, containing the LP version and a complete score
version never before availible. There is also a CD for Conquest by
Tom Scott and Battle by Leonard Rosenman on the same disc. It also
has the TV theme by Lalo Schifrin as a bonus. Both disc's come with
really informative booklets with lots of photos. Both can be found on
ebay for about $20 dollars each. I have both and they are amazing.

.htmlIn a message dated 2/24/05 12:35:38 PM Central Standard Time, afaf@... writes:

 I´d like to know something: is there any CD available with films soundtrack? I
just love it. Does anyone know?

Yes, PLANET is available in various forms, including one with a suite of music from ESCAPE... BENEATH and CONQUEST/BATTLE combo CD are still available from Film Score Monthly...<.html

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/24/05 3:24:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

Hi Arthur,

I have a cd with the Original motion picture soundtrack for the
Planet of the Apes.  It also has "Suite" on it from Escape.  Is that
what you are looking for?  I don't know what else is out there.

Helen

You can find the CD for the original POTA on Amazon.com.  For the sequels go to www.filmscoremonthly.com

-- Rory<.html <.html

.htmlIn a message dated 2/24/05 8:52:16 AM Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

I know this has been discussed before, but what is the difference between the marauding
gorilla and the gorilla soldier?

Nothing except the Marauder has on of those capture poles, and three ammo pouches on his ammo sling rather than 2...

<.html

Not only that, after "Conquest" the humans nuked the planet. There'd be
none of this "Let's live together". But Fox wanted it softened. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:28 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: Was Aldo Right?


>
>
>
> I'm surprised Aldo didn't have more of a following. Sure Caesar led
> them to freedom, but freedom from the same creatures who just years
> earlier had enslaved and tortured their entire race. Now they are to
> live together? I think this was one of the many downsides to Battle.
> They took a character filled with such emotion and rage from Conquest
> and "softened" him for the sake of the family audience. Caesar's
> distrust and anger for the human race was justified in Conquest and
> that's what made it such a emotionaly driven film. I think their
> would have been many who would not have been able to let those
> feelings go so easily. Living in peace with man would be hard for any
> ape who had been subjected to "reconditioning". Aldo's distrust of
> man both in and outside of their ape city is understandable.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One
Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much
more...
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Welcome Back!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "robbo41red" <readingrob@h...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone, lost touch for a while but i'm back and looking
forward
> to talking to you all.

Whenever I see the scene where Aldo locks up the humans followed by
his speech about Guns, I can't help thinking about John Ashcroft.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shanter2002" <mail@m...> wrote:
>
>
> Apes seems to be one of those concepts that evolves with the
times.
> With all that's happened over the last few years and with
Guantanamo
> Bay being one reaction, I've re-visited Aldo's attitude in Battle.
> Here's a guy faced with a vague but real, to him, threat of
> destruction, a threat aimed at his people and culture, possibly
> backed up by weapons of mass destruction.He has, within his
society,
> a potential threat, namely humans, who only a matter of years
earlier
> were torturing and enslaving his kind and might well support
humans
> attacking from outside.When Aldo locks the humans in the corral,
is
> he wrong? John, Scrolls.

This is the only one that I'll tackle.

In Planet the clock says 3978 vs. Beneath where Brent stated he took
a time reading before reentry and it was 3955. In Escape the time
clock is noted as also 3955. Why the mistake? Simple error on the
part of the filmmakers. How can it be explained? A clock like that
could work serveral ways. One way would be to measure the relative
positions of several stars to determine the passage of time. Now the
reading in Planet was taken on the surface of the planet where there
could be some distortion of the reading from the atmosphere. The
clock readings refered to in both Beneath & Escape were both taken
while the ship was in orbit, thus ensuring a more accurate reading.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Other: This is a mistake between the first 2 Apes films. In the
beginning of
> the first Apes movie as the ship is sinking Taylor looks at the
Earth time
> chronometer and it says 11-25-3978 as the date. In Beneath the
Planet of the
> Apes Brent tells his skipper that the year is 3955. They were
following
> Taylor's trajectory and Brent does meet Taylor but according to
the second film
> Brent got there 20 years earlier than Taylor.
>
>

Hey Arthur. Welcome to the group be sure to check out the File,
Photos and Database sections. There's a lot great stuff in there for
POTA fans. Also, visit our group Art Gallery
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm
and website: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, folks! My name´s Arthur and I´m from Brazil - Rio de Janeiro,
to be more
> precise.
>
> Well, the Planet of the Apes TV series were presented for a long
time here in
> Brazil and the films are cult movies, as well as in the US.
>
> I´ve been pretty much interested in rewatching the tv series
episodes and I
> know they are available in DVD in the US, but not here in Brazil.
That´s a real
> pity.
>
> What impresses me the most about POTA is that it is still up-to-
date in terms
> of how badly man have been treating animals and the way we deal
with the danger
> of nuclear weapons.
>
> Well, that´s all for now. I´ll be getting in touch again soon.
>
>
>
>
_________

.html

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTLVol5.jpg

<.html

Hola Arthur,

There are plenty of CDs with POTA movie music out there.
For the first movie there are 4 that I know of and that I have:

Company
11 tracks Intrada
10 tracks Project 3
18 Tracks Varese Sarabande (The one that includes Escape tracks)
+ another one that I don't have the info for right now.

The Varese Sarabande on is my favorite not only because it has more
tracks, but also because they used the colorfull French movie poster
as a cover.

There are also CDs put out by "Film Score Monthly" for the following:
1) Beneath CD (I still don't have this one. )
2) Conquest & Battle the Planet of the Apes CD (combined) -31 tracks

For Escape, there is no 'official' release, but there are bootlegs
floating around:
1) Escape from the Planet of the Apes - 16 Tracks
2) Another that is a 'Gerry Goldsmith' CD that has Beneath tracks and
another non-ape movie (I don't have this either)

You can get ALL of these of EBAY. Some are very cheap ($3 ~ $4),
others are harder to get (Beneath) for cheap prices but you can still
get them if you want to pay more. (Beneath always seems to be
available for $25).

There are also some japanese CDs (at least for the first movie), but
there is no new tracks on them.

Welcome to the group.

Let us know what is available from Brazil. We know there are spanish
magazines from Mexico and Spain. Anything that was only available in
Brazil?

Dario (Canada)

>
>
> Hi Arthur,
>
> I have a cd with the Original motion picture soundtrack for the
> Planet of the Apes. It also has "Suite" on it from Escape. Is

that

> what you are looking for? I don't know what else is out there.
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I´d like to know something: is there any CD available with
> films soundtrack? I
> > just love it. Does anyone know?
> >
> >

.html I have two CDs of music from  the original planet and Escape. I bought them at a sci-fi convention. I have seen CDs of the music on Ebay. Elaine<.html

Thank you all for the precious information givem about POTA soundtrack.

Well, Dario, you ask me about magazines here in Brazil. I know there are comics
which can be bought from collectors. I´m also trying to get some, but they are
usually very expensive. I don´t know of any other special material.

You know what? POTA was such a great hit in Brazil that it continues to be
remembered even by the new generation. Last February, during the famous
carnival parade in Rio, one of the samba schools presented hundreds od people
wearing apes costumes. It was awsomo. The costumes were just perfect, very
similar to the ones worn at POTA. Did anyone see that on TV there in the US?



Citando Dario <ev001@...>:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hola Arthur,
>
>
>
> There are plenty of CDs with POTA movie music out there.
>
> For the first movie there are 4 that I know of and that I have:
>
>
>
> Company
>
> 11 tracks Intrada
>
> 10 tracks Project 3
>
> 18 Tracks Varese Sarabande (The one that includes Escape tracks)
>
> + another one that I don't have the info for right now.
>
>
>
> The Varese Sarabande on is my favorite not only because it has more
>
> tracks, but also because they used the colorfull French movie poster
>
> as a cover.
>
>
>
> There are also CDs put out by "Film Score Monthly" for the following:
>
> 1) Beneath CD (I still don't have this one. )
>
> 2) Conquest & Battle the Planet of the Apes CD (combined) -31 tracks
>
>
>
> For Escape, there is no 'official' release, but there are bootlegs
>
> floating around:
>
> 1) Escape from the Planet of the Apes - 16 Tracks
>
> 2) Another that is a 'Gerry Goldsmith' CD that has Beneath tracks and
>
> another non-ape movie (I don't have this either)
>
>
>
> You can get ALL of these of EBAY. Some are very cheap ($3 ~ $4),
>
> others are harder to get (Beneath) for cheap prices but you can still
>
> get them if you want to pay more. (Beneath always seems to be
>
> available for $25).
>
>
>
> There are also some japanese CDs (at least for the first movie), but
>
> there is no new tracks on them.
>
>
>
> Welcome to the group.
>
>
>
> Let us know what is available from Brazil. We know there are spanish
>
> magazines from Mexico and Spain. Anything that was only available in
>
> Brazil?
>
>
>
> Dario (Canada)
>
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>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Hi Arthur,
>
> >
>
> > I have a cd with the Original motion picture soundtrack for the
>
> > Planet of the Apes. It also has "Suite" on it from Escape. Is
>
> that
>
> > what you are looking for? I don't know what else is out there.
>
> >
>
> > Helen
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> > ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
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> > >
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> > >> I´d like to know something: is there any CD available with
>
> > films soundtrack? I
>
> > > just love it. Does anyone know?
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> > >
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> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One
> Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much
> more...
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Does anybody remember the song 'Picasso Visits The Planet of the Apes' by Adam and the
Ants? I used to cover it in every band I was in.

Mark

Thanks to Chris L. and Greg P., my page now hosts an ad for the
re-release of the Apes movies on VHS back in the '80s (when they were
released at an affordable $19.95 instead of the $100 each the first
time they were released). You can find the ad in the "Misc" section.

http://www.goatley.com/pota/

Hunter

.html That Carnival sounds like fun, very creative to have people dressed as apes. Do you have pictures? Elaine<.html

Love looking at all the images you have here so I thought I would
add some. Mostly concert posters w/ a POTA theme but added a few
other prints of merch from the artists that are non concert.

Some really great Apes inspired art here. Thanks for sharing them.

It's on the LP "Prince Charming." I collect records and I thought I
was the only person in the world who had ever heard of that song!

I would love to see pictures of this, too!

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> That Carnival sounds like fun, very creative to have people
dressed as apes.
> Do you have pictures? Elaine

.html

In a message dated 2/24/2005 8:53:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, afaf@... writes:

  Yeah, they won´t play in my DVD because they´re from a different region. US is
region 1, Brazil is 4.

 

There are region-free DVD players.

Others can be modded with a disc

or a chip, depending on the model.

 

<.html

Some great stuff you posted, I have a few of these things too. I have quite a few of the
Apes inspired FUCT t-shirts from the early 90's, now faded from wear. The House wallet
and t-shirts from House Industries are must haves. I think they still sell the wallet for $40.
I got it free when I purchased the fonts.

Mark

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "reachchrisc" <reachchrisc@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Love looking at all the images you have here so I thought I would
> add some. Mostly concert posters w/ a POTA theme but added a few
> other prints of merch from the artists that are non concert.

yes, that was the album. we always did it as a novelty song for fun. it has nothing to do
with POTA in case anybody is en route to purchasing it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>
>
> It's on the LP "Prince Charming." I collect records and I thought I
> was the only person in the world who had ever heard of that song!

.html

In a message dated 2/25/2005 12:56:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, rkid67@... writes:

Does anybody remember the song 'Picasso Visits The Planet of the Apes' by Adam and the
Ants?  I used to cover it in every band I was in.

 

Interesting . . . Except that, aside from a couple of tunes. Adam and the Ants, suck!  I should know I had an album.  But it you want to cover a good band, try Redd Kross', Zira (Call Out My Name)  But you need a gospel chior backing you to do it right.

 

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these ARE great....wouldnt mind a few of them on my
walls!

Tim

--- John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

>
>
> Some really great Apes inspired art here. Thanks for
> sharing them.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

Hey all
I know that some of you don't open your Sideshow Planet of the Apes
to display like I do so I took a few pics of Taylor so you can see
him out of his box. I posetd them in the Sideshow folder.
Enjoy

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/26/05 5:37:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

Hey all
I know that some of you don't open your Sideshow Planet of the Apes
to display like I do so I took a few pics of Taylor so you can see
him out of his box. I posetd them in the Sideshow folder.
Enjoy

I got my Forbidden Zone version today from Sideshow.  I'm glad I got this version over the other as I think the figure looks better with a beard.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Mine is still in the shipping process and won't be here until next
week.
Does the Beared version come with a lot of accessories? Is his
uniform all dirty from walking the Forbidden Zone with Dodge and
Landon?


In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/26/05 5:37:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
>
>
> > Hey all
> > I know that some of you don't open your Sideshow Planet of the

Apes

> > to display like I do so I took a few pics of Taylor so you can

see

> > him out of his box. I posetd them in the Sideshow folder.
> > Enjoy
> >
>
> I got my Forbidden Zone version today from Sideshow. I'm glad I

got this

> version over the other as I think the figure looks better with a

beard.

>
> -- Rory

I hope this question hasn't been asked before, so I apologize
ahead of time if it has...

Is John Landis, the director of Animal House, the same person
who's listed as "Jake's Friend" in "Battle For The Planet Of The
Apes"?

I keep trying to see if I can even figure out who "Jake's Friend" is
in the film, but all I can come up with is the guy with the afro, who
looks nothing like John Landis just after Aldo helps the humans
put the wheel on the cart.

cornelius

.html <.html

Sideshow Taylor looks a bit like a young Sideshow George Burns.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@h...> wrote:
>
>
> Hey all
> I know that some of you don't open your Sideshow Planet of the Apes
> to display like I do so I took a few pics of Taylor so you can see
> him out of his box. I posetd them in the Sideshow folder.
> Enjoy

.htmlIn a message dated 2/27/05 12:11:31 AM Central Standard Time, cornelius@... writes:

Is John Landis, the director of Animal House, the same person
who's listed as "Jake's Friend" in "Battle For The Planet Of The
Apes"?

Yes, it is the same person...<.html

James, love the homepage pic---looks like Cornelius is thinking-
'Don't press that button--if you do, I'll be reduced toappearing on
the cover of that human rag, Simian Scrolls!'. John, Scrolls.

Jeff, it's interesting how more recent reviews of the series have
been a lot more sympathetic than the old 'formulaic','hackneyed'
cliches thrown at it.Alex Stewart, in his 'Cult TV' booklet for SFX
Magazine in 2000 said 'The makeup effects are still impressive,and
some of the stories surprisingly sophisticated for the format;the
episode where a blind chimp falls in love with Burke, believing him
to be an ape like herself, is touching without becoming mawkish, and
refuses to kop out at the end'.Another review(I can't recall the
reference)used Apes as a TV example of 'quality doesn't sell'.Apes
stands up well, in my humble opinion, agains any similar TV Series
and just because it was cancelled doesn't mean it wasn't good.John.

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/26/05 11:08:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

Mine is still in the shipping process and won't be here until next
week.
Does the Beared version come with a lot of accessories? Is his
uniform all dirty from walking the Forbidden Zone with Dodge and
Landon?

No!  I though his uniform would be dirty, but it's not! (Of course, I can make it dirty if I want to.  In fact, I have red sandstone rocks from Lake Powell and may just rub those on the uniform!)  He does come with all the accessories of the regular version, the only difference is the beard, which I'd rather it had since Heston mostly has a beard throughout the movie.

The only thing I'm disappointed about with this figure is you can't roll up the sleeves.  Also, the backpack, though wonderfully detailed, is too large.

Other than that I'm pretty happy with it.  Now, if I'm waiting for the Lawgiver statute.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Yeah, I have that review. It's "Halliwell's Television Companion".
Halliwell, who does the famous film guides. He said, "Clever retread of a
powerful movie in a format somewhere between "The Fugitive" and "Gulliver's
Travels". Unfortunately it was badly scheduled, and the usual public
indifference to quality merchandise caused a sudden cancellation". - - -
Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "shanter2002" <mail@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 2:29 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] Re: TV show review


>
>
>
> Jeff, it's interesting how more recent reviews of the series have
> been a lot more sympathetic than the old 'formulaic','hackneyed'
> cliches thrown at it.Alex Stewart, in his 'Cult TV' booklet for SFX
> Magazine in 2000 said 'The makeup effects are still impressive,and
> some of the stories surprisingly sophisticated for the format;the
> episode where a blind chimp falls in love with Burke, believing him
> to be an ape like herself, is touching without becoming mawkish, and
> refuses to kop out at the end'.Another review(I can't recall the
> reference)used Apes as a TV example of 'quality doesn't sell'.Apes
> stands up well, in my humble opinion, agains any similar TV Series
> and just because it was cancelled doesn't mean it wasn't good.John.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One
Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much
more...
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Thanks for the info on your Taylor, I hope mine arives soon. I am
still hoping since the Taylor and Nova pack is still a prototype that
they release the Taylor with a beard. If not, I will have to buy a
bearded version off of Ebay and make my own.
Now, I received my Lawgiver a few weeks ago. He is impressive!



In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/26/05 11:08:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
>
>
> > Mine is still in the shipping process and won't be here until

next

> > week.
> > Does the Beared version come with a lot of accessories? Is his
> > uniform all dirty from walking the Forbidden Zone with Dodge and
> > Landon?
> >
> >
>
> No! I though his uniform would be dirty, but it's not! (Of course,

I can

> make it dirty if I want to. In fact, I have red sandstone rocks

from Lake Powell

> and may just rub those on the uniform!) He does come with all the
> accessories of the regular version, the only difference is the

beard, which I'd rather

> it had since Heston mostly has a beard throughout the movie.
>
> The only thing I'm disappointed about with this figure is you can't

roll up

> the sleeves. Also, the backpack, though wonderfully detailed, is

too large.

>
> Other than that I'm pretty happy with it. Now, if I'm waiting for

the

> Lawgiver statute.
>
> -- Rory

I've NEVER been able to spot Landis in the film... does anyone know
what scene he's in?

Michael

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/27/05 12:11:31 AM Central Standard Time,
> cornelius@e... writes:
>
>
> > Is John Landis, the director of Animal House, the same person
> > who's listed as "Jake's Friend" in "Battle For The Planet Of The
> > Apes"?
> >
>
> Yes, it is the same person...

I've just uploaded an old pic from a mid '70's UK newspaper that shows some of the cast
of the Ape live shows that toured the country at that time.

It's in the files and is called 'frightseeing'

Dave B

Here´s one the pictures I could get. I´ll try to get some more.

Citando taebokitti@...:

> That Carnival sounds like fun, very creative to have people dressed as apes.
> Do you have pictures? Elaine
>

_______________________

Attachments :

I hope I was able to attach the file this time...

Citando taebokitti@...:

> That Carnival sounds like fun, very creative to have people dressed as apes.
> Do you have pictures? Elaine
>

_______________________

Here´s one of the pictures I could get. I´ll try to get some more.
_______________________

.html Thanks for the picture, looks like a fun time. Elaine<.html

I have posted a screen grab of who I think might be Landis, it's in the rkid67 photo album.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "protozaius" <protozaius@y...> wrote:
>
> I've NEVER been able to spot Landis in the film... does anyone know
> what scene he's in?
>
> Michael

Is this in the photos section? (I looked, but didn't find it.) I'd
really like to see this!

Thanks,

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
>
> Here´s one the pictures I could get. I´ll try to get some more.
>
> Citando taebokitti@a...:
>
> > That Carnival sounds like fun, very creative to have people
dressed as apes.
> > Do you have pictures? Elaine
> >
>
>
>
>
_________

Attachments :

I could only find these 2 pictures. I'll try to get more in order to send you.



Citando ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...>:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Is this in the photos section? (I looked, but didn't find it.) I'd
>
> really like to see this!
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, ArturF <afaf@c...> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Here´s one the pictures I could get. I´ll try to get some more.
>
> >
>
> > Citando taebokitti@a...:
>
> >
>
> > > That Carnival sounds like fun, very creative to have people
>
> dressed as apes.
>
> > > Do you have pictures? Elaine
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> _________

_______________________

Yes, the human on the right is John Landis, "Jake's friend"...

BTW, Paula Crist (from "Two People Who are the Planet of the Apes",
Marvel magazine articles; w/Bill Blake) is the blonde woman hugging
the little blonde girl in the corral scenes of BFTPOTA...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <rkid67@y...> wrote:
>
>
> I have posted a screen grab of who I think might be Landis, it's in
the rkid67 photo album.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "protozaius" <protozaius@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I've NEVER been able to spot Landis in the film... does anyone
know
> > what scene he's in?
> >
> > Michael

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/28/05 7:10:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, protozaius@... writes:

I've NEVER been able to spot Landis in the film... does anyone know
what scene he's in?

Michael

He's a skinny long-haired guy.  You can see him in the main titles, then again when Aldo starts rounding up the humans to take them to the corral.  I think Landis yells, "Hey!"

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html

In a message dated 2/28/2005 7:19:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, afaf@... writes:

Carnival sounds like fun, very creative to have people dressed as apes.

Wow! They really went all out didn't they?

<.html

Hi! I'm new to the group - been lurking for a couple
of days - still learning my way around. I just wanted
to put my 2-cents in re: the Lawgiver statue from
Sideshow... it is beyond amazing! By far my favorite
POTA collectible ever!! Worth every penny, IMHO. I
wish they would do more of the statues/prop replicas
from the films!
-Barb


--- luke_the_drifter52 <JLKINSER1970@...>
wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for the info on your Taylor, I hope mine
> arives soon. I am
> still hoping since the Taylor and Nova pack is still
> a prototype that
> they release the Taylor with a beard. If not, I will
> have to buy a
> bearded version off of Ebay and make my own.
> Now, I received my Lawgiver a few weeks ago. He is
> impressive!
>
>
>
> In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 2/26/05 11:08:35 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> > JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
> >
> >
> > > Mine is still in the shipping process and won't
> be here until
> next
> > > week.
> > > Does the Beared version come with a lot of
> accessories? Is his
> > > uniform all dirty from walking the Forbidden
> Zone with Dodge and
> > > Landon?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > No! I though his uniform would be dirty, but it's
> not! (Of course,
> I can
> > make it dirty if I want to. In fact, I have red
> sandstone rocks
> from Lake Powell
> > and may just rub those on the uniform!) He does
> come with all the
> > accessories of the regular version, the only
> difference is the
> beard, which I'd rather
> > it had since Heston mostly has a beard throughout
> the movie.
> >
> > The only thing I'm disappointed about with this
> figure is you can't
> roll up
> > the sleeves. Also, the backpack, though
> wonderfully detailed, is
> too large.
> >
> > Other than that I'm pretty happy with it. Now, if
> I'm waiting for
> the
> > Lawgiver statute.
> >
> > -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

I would like to see them do a scale Alpha and Omega bomb to display
with my Ursus and Zaius and the soldier ape army I am building.


In pota@yahoogroups.com, Barb Diller <geekorama2005@y...> wrote:

>
> Hi! I'm new to the group - been lurking for a couple
> of days - still learning my way around. I just wanted
> to put my 2-cents in re: the Lawgiver statue from
> Sideshow... it is beyond amazing! By far my favorite
> POTA collectible ever!! Worth every penny, IMHO. I
> wish they would do more of the statues/prop replicas
> from the films!
> -Barb
>
>
> --- luke_the_drifter52 <JLKINSER1970@h...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info on your Taylor, I hope mine
> > arives soon. I am
> > still hoping since the Taylor and Nova pack is still
> > a prototype that
> > they release the Taylor with a beard. If not, I will
> > have to buy a
> > bearded version off of Ebay and make my own.
> > Now, I received my Lawgiver a few weeks ago. He is
> > impressive!
> >
> >
> >
> > In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> > > In a message dated 2/26/05 11:08:35 PM Eastern
> > Standard Time,
> > > JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mine is still in the shipping process and won't
> > be here until
> > next
> > > > week.
> > > > Does the Beared version come with a lot of
> > accessories? Is his
> > > > uniform all dirty from walking the Forbidden
> > Zone with Dodge and
> > > > Landon?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > No! I though his uniform would be dirty, but it's
> > not! (Of course,
> > I can
> > > make it dirty if I want to. In fact, I have red
> > sandstone rocks
> > from Lake Powell
> > > and may just rub those on the uniform!) He does
> > come with all the
> > > accessories of the regular version, the only
> > difference is the
> > beard, which I'd rather
> > > it had since Heston mostly has a beard throughout
> > the movie.
> > >
> > > The only thing I'm disappointed about with this
> > figure is you can't
> > roll up
> > > the sleeves. Also, the backpack, though
> > wonderfully detailed, is
> > too large.
> > >
> > > Other than that I'm pretty happy with it. Now, if
> > I'm waiting for
> > the
> > > Lawgiver statute.
> > >
> > > -- Rory
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> __________________________________

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Barb Diller <geekorama2005@y...> wrote:

>The Lawgiver statue from Sideshow... it is beyond amazing! By far

my favorite POTA collectible ever!! Worth every penny, IMHO. > -
Barb


Welcome, Barb!
You are absolutely right. I received my whopping great Lawgiver a
week or so ago and he is truly amazing. He's huge but he doesn't
take over the place. Who wouldn't want a Lawgiver in their living
room to pontificate from his podium every now and then! Love that
Lawgiver!

I have ordered a few other Sideshow Collectibles as well, but none
so far can compare to our bookish Lawgiver. Beware the beast man!

Menluth.

.html.htmlIn a message dated 2/28/05 9:13:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, menluth@... writes:

You are absolutely right. I received my whopping great Lawgiver a
week or so ago and he is truly amazing. He's huge but he doesn't
take over the place. Who wouldn't want a Lawgiver in their living
room to pontificate from his podium every now and then! Love that
Lawgiver!

I have ordered a few other Sideshow Collectibles as well, but none
so far can compare to our bookish Lawgiver. Beware the beast man!

Menluth.

I should be getting mine in another week or so from Amok Time.

-- Rory<.html <.html

If possible, could someone please post some close-up pics of Sideshow's Lawgiver? I'd
like to see the texture and shadowing of the statue.

Thanks,
Mark

Welcone Barb!!

Tim

--- Barb Diller <geekorama2005@...> wrote:

>
> Hi! I'm new to the group - been lurking for a
> couple
> of days - still learning my way around. I just
> wanted
> to put my 2-cents in re: the Lawgiver statue from
> Sideshow... it is beyond amazing! By far my
> favorite
> POTA collectible ever!! Worth every penny, IMHO. I
> wish they would do more of the statues/prop replicas
> from the films!
> -Barb
>
>
> --- luke_the_drifter52 <JLKINSER1970@...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info on your Taylor, I hope mine
> > arives soon. I am
> > still hoping since the Taylor and Nova pack is
> still
> > a prototype that
> > they release the Taylor with a beard. If not, I
> will
> > have to buy a
> > bearded version off of Ebay and make my own.
> > Now, I received my Lawgiver a few weeks ago. He is
> > impressive!
> >
> >
> >
> > In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> > > In a message dated 2/26/05 11:08:35 PM Eastern
> > Standard Time,
> > > JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mine is still in the shipping process and
> won't
> > be here until
> > next
> > > > week.
> > > > Does the Beared version come with a lot of
> > accessories? Is his
> > > > uniform all dirty from walking the Forbidden
> > Zone with Dodge and
> > > > Landon?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > No! I though his uniform would be dirty, but
> it's
> > not! (Of course,
> > I can
> > > make it dirty if I want to. In fact, I have red
> > sandstone rocks
> > from Lake Powell
> > > and may just rub those on the uniform!) He does
> > come with all the
> > > accessories of the regular version, the only
> > difference is the
> > beard, which I'd rather
> > > it had since Heston mostly has a beard
> throughout
> > the movie.
> > >
> > > The only thing I'm disappointed about with this
> > figure is you can't
> > roll up
> > > the sleeves. Also, the backpack, though
> > wonderfully detailed, is
> > too large.
> > >
> > > Other than that I'm pretty happy with it. Now,
> if
> > I'm waiting for
> > the
> > > Lawgiver statute.
> > >
> > > -- Rory
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> __________________________________

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Hi there. I've got them, they're ready for ordering. If you want a
copy, send $6 cash or check to me, Kassidy. Email me for my address
at valwp@....

Our James has provided a free copy of the Ape Herald, so if you
mention you're a member of this group in your email to me, you'll get
a $2 discount. The magazine will be only $4 for members of this
group.

I can't accept pre-payments for future Simian Scrolls. I make a
lousy accountant.

The magazine's getting better all the time, you'll enjoy this one, at
roll-back prices:)
Kass

I hate to say it even though he's in a nature
reserve....it doesn't look like Chubbs is doing too
well.....those pics were depressing.....his
environment is small, cramped and filthy....are we
sure this is Pericles from POTA 2001? he looks much
much older......whoever he is, I want to go rescue
him.....

Tim



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After some digging I found this from New Orleans Mardi
Gras 2002....the Brazilian pics reminded me of
it.....dont know who he is......
Tim

Yeah, it's kind of a bogus name. It is referred to by the CC as a
roadside zoo. The pictures were from PETA, I believe. Although, I
have to disagree with some of the ways PETA portrays animal cruelty,
these are pictures and they do go with the other pictures we have
seen of Chubbs. These pictures make me really think about the use
of chimps in the movies.

You will not believe this, but the Amarillo Wildlife Refuge has just
updated their site (which is rarely accessible) and posted Chubbs as
their animal of the month. You HAVE to check this out!!!
http://www.amarillowildliferefuge.org/

Don't think they don't listen to us!!

This is the link to the [PETA] pictures I posted of Chubbs.
http://www.peta.org/feat/awr/ .

Hmmm...

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...> wrote:
>
> I hate to say it even though he's in a nature
> reserve....it doesn't look like Chubbs is doing too
> well.....those pics were depressing.....his
> environment is small, cramped and filthy....are we
> sure this is Pericles from POTA 2001? he looks much
> much older......whoever he is, I want to go rescue
> him.....
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> __________________________________

After having replied to this with a link to the site, I just thought
it worth mentioning that the page that displays first will be a page
looking for contributions. It might be helpful to find out from
another one of the overseeing chimp rescue organizations whether it
is felt that a contribution would be used to benefit the animals or
line the pockets of the Amarillo Wildlife Refuge. I would hate to
see a lot of money going to the wrong place. Maybe a gift of an
enrichment activity or a fruit basket or something special directed
specifically to Chubbs would be more of a benefit.

These are just my random thoughts. I think a bit of research would
be helpful and personal notes to the Refuge asking what would go
directly to Chubbs -- as a token of ape-preciation to an actor in
one of your favorite movies. If the Refuge turns out to be
legitimate and in dire need of funds, then a donation might be
helpful. There is a bit out there if you Google Amarillo Wildlife
Refuge. Some of it is horrifying. It might take some work to find
the truth.

Helen

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...> wrote:
>
> I hate to say it even though he's in a nature
> reserve....it doesn't look like Chubbs is doing too
> well.....those pics were depressing.....his
> environment is small, cramped and filthy....are we
> sure this is Pericles from POTA 2001? he looks much
> much older......whoever he is, I want to go rescue
> him.....
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> __________________________________

.htmlIn a message dated 3/1/05 8:15:13 AM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

After some digging I found this from New Orleans MardiGras 2002....the Brazilian pics reminded me of it.....dont know who he is......

Looks like a crowd scene from CONQUEST...<.html

If you can wait until tomorrow I can! My digi camera
has been in the shop for over a month (!) and I'm
picking it up tomorrow - hopefully (you know how those
things go!). I will post them tomorrow, unless
someone else gets to it first. (BTW, if you are
concerned about seeing it before buying, don't worry
too much - if you order direct from
sideshowcollectibles.com they are VERY good at
customer returns, no questions asked - although they
do like it if you tell them what you don't like so
they can fix it for the future - I'm pretty new at the
collecting thing, so I always buy from them directly,
as I've heard some horror stories about retailers not
doing returns, damaging the items, etc. etc.) Anyway
- I'll let you know when I post the pics...
-Barb

P.S. Thanks for the warm welcome everyone!


--- Mark <rkid67@...> wrote:

>
>
> If possible, could someone please post some close-up
> pics of Sideshow's Lawgiver? I'd
> like to see the texture and shadowing of the statue.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi, Kass. My money went out in the mail today. Thanks!

Hunter
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.html If this so called wildlife refuge would be willing to sell Chubbs,he might be able to go to a decent sanctuary. The problem would be raising enough money for his purchase. I like your idea of sending enrichment materials instead of money. Elaine<.html