--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Raquel still looks good. And her autobiography just came out. And her sunglasses commercial.
> We may have her to thank for POTA since she was a selling point in "Fantastic Voyage" and supposedly F.V.'s success gave POTA the blood transfusion it needed. I say give her a role in "Caesar"!
>
>

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 9:45 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

And there's also a pic of Deep Roy as Thade's niece:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/759517836/pic/1835187922/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=81&count=20&dir=asc

But there is a gender reference in the script: https://pota.goatley.com/scripts/pota_conquest_finalshooting.pdf. Go to page 12, the orangutan in the bookstore is called 'he'.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> I disagree with James. I still think the Orang
> was a female. This has come up before.
> Though nothing was established since
> it was A. an uncredited role, and B
> there was no gender reference in
> the script. So even if it was a
> female in make up, it may
> have be a male part. The
> opposite was true in the
> new movie where Deep
> Roy play Thade's niece.
>
>
>

Very good point!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> I would say that Planet was a Theocracy,
> whereas Conquest was a Police State.
>
>

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:03 AM, <stenosaurus@...> wrote:

Matthew Sotis makes (or used to make) realistic gorilla and chimp figures among others. In Christopher Sausville's book "Planet of the Apes Collectibles" there's a shot on pg 63 of his female gorilla doll in costume. I would scan the image for you but the binding on the book would split if I flattened it out. Anyone else have an image of this?

Bruce

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> I was ecstatic when she signed my One Million Years BC laserdisc at her Santa Monica book signing last week. She was only signing the book, no memorabilia, but I was able to sweet talk her into it after she signed my book.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, I saw her on Craig Ferguson a week or so ago. She still looks pretty good, but your story only reminds me of what a mystery Fox's DVD of OMYBC is when compared to that excellent laserdisc from the last century. WTF happened there??? Something wasn't right with that situation, which I'll assume most here don't know about, but just be glad PLANET wasn't a Hammer film.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> Speaking of the POTA films audio - I went through each and listened to the isolated scores and found they are not in 5.1 but 2.0 stereo. Also, they are different in terms of quality (better) and mixed differently (better) with improved separation from what is heard in the film.
> BENEATH is all messed up with missing cues and repeated ones. However alternate and extended cues are heard in some of the films.
> I think they just went and overlayed music tracks from the CDs for the isolated scores, but for the re-mixing of the music for the film they did a pseudo stereo re-channeling on the mono stems - a typical and old way of doing things as they did with Chase years ago for the Beta/VHS releases. All they did to update the process is put it through a box to spread it out to 5.1. No wonder they sound like crap. Unlike Paramount's new 5.1 mixes (From mono elements)  for the first 3 Friday the 13th films on Blu-ray which have terrific stereo. The music alone has a quality of a 1950's stereo mix (wide).
> Once again FOX rears its cheap head.
> - Scott B.
>

IMHO the answer is that he wasn't there to negotiate - he was there to retaliate. Whether he actually knew the bomb would fry the world to a cinder is debatable, but given the earlier dialogue in Beneath about setting the range of Ape City into the bomb's mechanism, I think his intent was indeed to nuke the Apes, if they invaded the city. It was to be done out of holy conviction. He was only caught in the act of launching the Bomb, or it would have happened with or without witnesses

We'll never really know for sure of course, but one reason I think this is true is that it fits the dystopia theme in Dehn's vision of the series, that the sucessor civilizations - Apes and Mutants - ultimately repeated the cycle that led to the destruction of "paradise" in the first place, through inter-species hatred rather than intra-species hatred. Whether it's ideology, inter-species hatred, or religious passion, it ultimately leads to the same place once the means of destruction exist. Even more so because one of the representatives of the civilization that created the Bomb in the first place - Taylor - ultimately was the one to set it off. The implication was that he fulfilled his destiny. Depressing, yes, but fitting what Zaius said. Unfortunately he too was fulfilling his own of putting emotion ahead of reason - what he accused Man of in the original POTA. If you read the novelization, it's even more obvious that this was the direction Dehn was going in - I think the quote was something like the unseen narrator saying that "whatever speaks, can murder" (or something like that).

Just my thinking anyway.

Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: johnroche49
Sent: Apr 27, 2010 8:24 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] MENDEZ

 

When Mendez confronts the Ape army on the altar steps, is he looking to negotiate from strength? Was it his intention to say 'back off, or you/we all are fried by this bomb' or was he going to say 'tough luck, we're all going to die a Hioly death'? Did he blow it by starting too religious and not letting, say, Zaius understand what the threat was? John, Scrolls.

Just wondering how many people are going to this tonight.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> OK, you humans out in LA -- be there or you're a bloody baboon! The two indisputably BEST of the APES films are back on the big screen!
>
> http://www.americancinematheque.com/archive1999/2010/Egyptian/Time_Travel_ET2010.htm#PLANET%20OF%20THE%20APES
>
> Thursday, April 29 â€" 7:30 PM
> Double Feature: PLANET OF THE APES, 1968, 20th Century Fox, 119 min. Dir. Franklin Schaffner. One of the greatest modern sci-fi films, a combination of apocalyptic action and evolutionary parable. Astronaut Charlton Heston finds himself stranded on a strangely familiar world dominated by a race of highly intelligent gorillas, chimpanzees and orangutans. Trailer
> PLANET OF THE APES, 1968, 20th Century Fox, 119 min. Dir. Franklin Schaffner. One of the greatest modern sci-fi films, a combination of apocalyptic action and evolutionary parable. Astronaut Charlton Heston finds himself stranded on a strangely familiar world dominated by a race of highly intelligent gorillas, chimpanzees and orangutans. Trailer
> ESCAPE FROM THE PLANET OF THE APES, 1971, 20th Century Fox, 98 min. Dir. Don Taylor. When chimpanzees Cornelius and Zira (Roddy McDowell and Kim Hunter) mysteriously arrive on earth in a spaceship, they are greeted with wonder and quickly become a media sensation. But this initial excitement turns to suspicion, and the chimp couple find themselves victims of a high-level conspiracy. Art Director Bill Creber will appear for discussion between films.
> , 1971, 20th Century Fox, 98 min. Dir. Don Taylor. When chimpanzees Cornelius and Zira (Roddy McDowell and Kim Hunter) mysteriously arrive on earth in a spaceship, they are greeted with wonder and quickly become a media sensation. But this initial excitement turns to suspicion, and the chimp couple find themselves victims of a high-level conspiracy. Art Director Bill Creber will appear for discussion between films.
>
>
> Eat that, humans who hate ESCAPE!
>

No not really. It's kind of a dud.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
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> Has anybody actually completed the Apes game on the blu ray disc? I was nearly there last night when the hairy git questioned my logic and sent me back to the start.Does anything wonderful happen at the end? John.
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
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> dear group, i think i found the planet marquee from loews capitol 68 new york city. enjoy from william burge
>

If it is bogus, I had nothing to do with it.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
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> Great picture! It looks alot like the photoshop photo James here made a couple of momnths ago. James hit it on the head or you got a bogus picture, which I doubt. Great shot, wish it was closer, but great William....John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge billburge48@ wrote:
> >
> > dear group, i think i found the planet marquee from loews capitol 68  new york city. enjoy from william burge
> >
>

William, that is great. Where did you find that?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, i think i found the planet marquee from loews capitol 68  new york city. enjoy from william burge
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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>
> If it is bogus, I had nothing to do with it.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Great picture! It looks alot like the photoshop photo James here made
> a couple of momnths ago. James hit it on the head or you got a bogus
> picture, which I doubt. Great shot, wish it was closer, but great
> William....John M.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge billburge48@ wrote:
> > >
> > > dear group, i think i found the planet marquee from loews capitol 68
> new york city. enjoy from william burge
> > >
> >
>

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On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:53 AM, <mcreek25@...> wrote:

Today is the big day. The screening of POTA at the Egyptian in Hollywood.

The wife and I will be there, hope to take some pictures and see you all there.

Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com

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Sounds like a great night! How was the print versus the showing we went to two years ago?

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> No one asked about the claw tonight. The guy doing the Q & A asked most of the questions. Nothing earthshaking that I recall. He talked about the use of urathane (sp?) foam to injected in a frame to create the unique shapes for the ape houses (the outside cage was made from one of these frames. Talked about using the "Hello, Dolly" sets in "Beneath". I'll try to remember what all he said tomorrow, or whoever else went can chime in. I personally asked Creber for an interview and he said he's not doing interviews because he's writing a book about his career (hope he includes diet tips like Raquel did). I asked him if he worked on Jacobs' ill-fated "Dune". He said he didn't though he read every version of the script.
> The POTA print was so-so. I've seen better. The main reason I went was to see "Escape" projected, because "Beneath" was beautiful in 2007. But they showed the blu-ray (in the Egyptian Theater!). It looked great but sheesh. I guess there's no good prints of "Escape".
> All in all a fun night.
>
>

Why so pessimistic Jess? Just last week when Amazon had a sale on the Blu Ray boxset, the sales were so high it ranked #3 after the DVD and Blu Ray versions of Avatar. So there are a lot more fans of the original POTA films than many give credit for.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
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> I bet that there were no more than 23 people in the audience...
>
> And that there were 20 for Escape.
>
> Hope I'm wrong.
>
> Jess.
>

Hope you had a great time. Please send us the pics.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mcreek25@... wrote:
>
> Today is the big day. The screening of POTA at the Egyptian in Hollywood.
>
> The wife and I will be there, hope to take some pictures and see you all
> there.
>
> Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
> bunkermeister.blogspot.com
> sgtsays.blogspot.com
> hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
>

Well 1/3rd full depends on the size of the theater, 1/3rd of a 1500 seat theater is very different from 1/3rd of a 300 seat theater.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> She's right. The theater was only about 1/3rd full (but more than 20 people). But as one might guess, they were enthusiastic.
>
>
>