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TGIF!!! This week's installement of APE CITY CHRONICLES is now available.

To access click on the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm.

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Group Website  - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• POTA Locations  - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• Cornelius' Journal  - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Lessons from the Lawgiver – Words of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All.
• The Art Gallery  - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section  - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.
• The Photos Section  - POTA pics contributed by members.

Thanks Jeff. Unfortunately, it seems that FOX is starting to crack down on website displaying these pics.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Here's some more shots from "Rise of the Apes". Looks like Franco and Caesar in an intense situation in a forest.
>
> http://www.celebuzz.com/james-franco-gets-serious-set-g231881/
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According to IMBD, David Hewlett from Stargate is rumored to be in Rise. But after looking at his twitter account https://twitter.com/dhewlett it may be more than a rumor.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:
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> I agree. John's apes are the ones we became used to for 30 years before POTA
> '01. Regardless of the greater degree of realism Baker's apes tend to have, we
> just simply prefer the old apes.
>
> And, yes, I hope to the Lawgiver that the Chambers style is retained for the new
> movie. I'm just one of several on this site who have argued in favor of that.
>
>
>

 

In my view the 2001 apes were wrong in the sense that they evolved but simply still looked like todays apes and that to me was a distraction. The makeup was pheneminal but I felt wrong. The 1968 apes are in my view right. Not because im used to it but from a scientific fact that if an ape was to evolve wouldnt their appearence change also. The way Chambers did it weather by mistake or purposly was to me a perfect mix of an evolution to becoming a human type creature and also a unique take on an apes appereance. The perenial look that has lasted for almost 45 years is proof enough. I hope this is where they take the look for this new and so far very exciting take on apes mythology...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
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> This was my complaint from the onset this film was announced. This is also the problem with most remakes. Today these writers feel they are doing something better but all they do is write themselves into a corner of stupidity. The older films simply skirted the main issues and dealt with the storyline at hand - the audience was allowed to fill in the gaps. For this very reason the stories have grown their own mythology, inspiring debates and discussions.
> It was never stated how apes evolved. Since they were already that way in CONQUEST it wasn't radiation. As a kid I just assumed it was a by-product of the same virus that killed dogs and cats - causing the death of one but mutational jump in the development of simians. Even though it was stated in CONQUEST the virus was brought back to earth by "one of the astronauts" I also felt it was actually brought into being by Zira & Cornelius, as carriers - setting the stage for everything to begin. In the 20 years between ESCAPE and CONQUEST apes would change with each generation allowing a much more plausible venue.
> - Scott
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> I've forgotten about this -- because I spend very little time thinking about one of the worst disasters in American history prior to 9/11... of course, I'm talking about POTA2001 -- but there is, I believe, an example of CGI used with the Baker prosthetic makeup in that horrible, eminently forgettable piece of celluloid dreck.
>
> Here's a couple screen captures of Attar. The bottom photo, where the mouth is so wide open in a roar, has got to be CGI enhancement.
>
> This is the kind of thing I think it would be interesting to see done with the original films -- in just the area of their mouths --, though I'm not sure it's really worth the doing.
>
> -- Rory
>
> P.S.
> Yeah, I'm the guy who told that I recall Baker saying he was thinking of retiring before doing POTA2001. It was in some featurette on the DVD, I think, but what of it? Also, I think for the most part the makeup is well applied in POTA2001, but in my opinion the design isn't the greatest, but in fairness to Baker and his crew, they were terribly rushed.
>

Take a look in the group's Photos section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/0/list plenty of great BTS pics there.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> Anybody here got a great behind the scenes photo from the APES series? Something that's a good scan, that's relatively rare and one that you can post here? I'll tell you why I'm asking later.
>
> -- Rory
>

I've gotten the impression that Ape Management was doing some sort of genetic manipulation on the Apes. Take a look at the Orangutans in the cage with Caesar. They look fairly primitive, but after they are processed in Ape Management they look like POTA Organutans.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
>
> This was my complaint from the onset this film was announced.  This is also the problem with most remakes.  Today these writers feel they are doing something better but all they do is write themselves into a corner of stupidity.  The older films simply skirted the main issues and dealt with the storyline at hand - the audience was allowed to fill in the gaps.  For this very reason the stories have grown their own mythology, inspiring debates and discussions.
> It was never stated how apes evolved.  Since they were already that way in CONQUEST it wasn't radiation.  As a kid I just assumed it was a by-product of the same virus that killed dogs and cats - causing the death of one but mutational jump in the development of simians.  Even though it was stated in CONQUEST the virus was brought back to earth by "one of the astronauts" I also felt it was actually brought into being by Zira & Cornelius, as carriers - setting the stage for everything to begin.  In the 20 years between ESCAPE and CONQUEST apes would change with each generation allowing a much more plausible venue.
> - Scott
>

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
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> Sounds exciting to me. I love origin stories best of all.
> For me the best superhero films are always the first. Origin stories.
>
> Al
>
>
>
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

But now's the time to have fun and speculate. Probably the announcement won't come until next year.


How about Joel Goldsmith :0)

Dave

 

 Here's a link to a Film Score Monthly thread about who should do the music for the new "Apes". Who should? Michael Giacchino (who did the rebooted "Star Trek" movie) comes to mind, and he's said he grew up a fan of the "Apes" TV show. With all the Peter Jackson alumni working on it, it's easy to fill in the blank with Howard Shore ("Lord of the Rings") or James Newton Howard ("KIng Kong"). Maybe these folks are out of Fox's price range. But now's the time to have fun and speculate. Probably the announcement won't come until next year.

 

 

 

  http://www.filmscor emonthly. com/board/ posts.cfm? threadID= 70517&forumID=1&archive=0

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
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> Howard Shore has my vote.
>
> Al
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
> SPOILERS GALORE (So Be Warned!)
>
> http://www.earthsmightiest.com/fansites/planetoftheapes/news/?a=7468
>

My vote would be for James Horner.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a link to a Film Score Monthly thread about who should do the music for the new "Apes". Who should? Michael Giacchino (who did the rebooted "Star Trek" movie) comes to mind, and he's said he grew up a fan of the "Apes" TV show. With all the Peter Jackson alumni working on it, it's easy to fill in the blank with Howard Shore ("Lord of the Rings") or James Newton Howard ("KIng Kong"). Maybe these folks are out of Fox's price range. But now's the time to have fun and speculate. Probably the announcement won't come until next year.
>
>
>
> http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=70517&forumID=1&archive=0
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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>
> My vote would be for James Horner.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a link to a Film Score Monthly thread about who should do the
> music for the new "Apes". Who should? Michael Giacchino (who did the
> rebooted "Star Trek" movie) comes to mind, and he's said he grew up a
> fan of the "Apes" TV show. With all the Peter Jackson alumni working on
> it, it's easy to fill in the blank with Howard Shore ("Lord of the
> Rings") or James Newton Howard ("KIng Kong"). Maybe these folks are out
> of Fox's price range. But now's the time to have fun and speculate.
> Probably the announcement won't come until next year.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=70517&forumID=1\
> &archive=0
> >
>

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Have never seen UP. But I don't want a composer who just imitates Goldsmith. I'd rather have someone who is a good composer who, like Goldsmith, doesn't have just one set style.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
>
> Have you seen UP, James? It was scored by Michael Giacchino and there's a part in the film where they walk through a canyon with a pack of dogs and the music evokes APES and I thought it was very good.
>
> Horner doesn't seem to me to have the sensibilities for an APES movie.
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-APES-RODDY-MAC-DOWELL-RIDING-BOOTS-/120602555751?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c1478f567
>

 

  Ape Has Killed Ape is still around too! Get everyone together and do an Ape Woodstock.

 

 http://www.myspace. com/apehaskilled ape666

 

 

Got keep on risin'...   Risin!  Risin!

 

This claims to be the script to RISE OF THE APES, but I dare not download it.  Bet Alex will.

 

http://www.mediafir e.com/?b77icqcza yzh8e4

Interesting, if it is the real script then it is not a prequel, at least to the original.

On page 39 of the script there is a TV news report about Taylor and his crew preparing to be launched. So since this film takes place in contemporary times, it can't be the same Taylor from the original film who was launched in 1972. Thus it's not a prequel but a reboot.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
> Got keep on risin'... Risin! Risin!
>
> This claims to be the script to RISE OF THE APES, but I dare not download it. Bet Alex will.
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/?b77icqczayzh8e4
>

 

Interesting, if it is the real script then it is not a prequel, at least to the original.

On page 39 of the script there is a TV news report about Taylor and his crew preparing to be launched. So since this film takes place in contemporary times, it can't be the same Taylor from the original film who was launched in 1972. Thus it's not a prequel but a reboot.

 

Interesting, if it is the real script then it is not a prequel, at least to the original.

On page 39 of the script there is a TV news report about Taylor and his crew preparing to be launched. So since this film takes place in contemporary times, it can't be the same Taylor from the original film who was launched in 1972. Thus it's not a prequel but a reboot.

OK, I've had about all of this that I can stand....

 

What Fox is doing is a reboot of the POTA franchise because the 2001 debacle left them with no place to go -- it was that much of a creative disaster.

 

But... and this is a very BIG BUT... Fox is also rebooting the original POTA series by doing what is a prequel to the original film.  Whether you can except that or not -- THAT'S WHAT IT IS!

 

There are dated elements in the original 1968 such as exactly what James mentions -- the 1972 date on the clock at the beginning of the movie -- that HAVE TO BE REVISED!

 

You can't seriously expect that Fox is going to try and re-launch this franchise and still have in this new movie that an interstellar flight was launched in 1972!  I think to expect them to adhere to that "continuity" is juvenile.

 

I mean really.... let's grow up.  None of this threatens anyone's beloved conception of the original five-film series.  This movie is a reboot of the franchise and a prequel to the original film -- with some revisions -- namely, a new timeline!  I'm so certain of this that I'm already preparing, less than a year from now, for my "I told you so's" to James.

 

-- Rory

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Greetings, group.  Here is a full-page ad I found from 2006 for the Legacy Collection & the Ultimate DVD Collection.  Enjoy!

 

Jeff (RedSpy)