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Group: pota Message: 59435 From: John Date: 7/22/2010
Subject: Rebel Ape Hot Toys
Group: pota Message: 59436 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/22/2010
Subject: Lithgow a "Twitter" about "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 59437 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/22/2010
Subject: Re: (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!
Group: pota Message: 59438 From: William Burge Date: 7/22/2010
Subject: japan ticket stub
Group: pota Message: 59439 From: William Burge Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: beneath photos
Group: pota Message: 59440 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!
Group: pota Message: 59441 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: OT: Tom Felton in Vancouver already
Group: pota Message: 59442 From: scott bosco Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!
Group: pota Message: 59443 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Ape City Chronicles
Group: pota Message: 59444 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: japan ticket stub [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 59445 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: POTA Connection
Group: pota Message: 59446 From: rassmguy Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!
Group: pota Message: 59447 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: POTA Connection [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 59448 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 59449 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 59450 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: ape artists wanted !! APE CHRONICLES New books !
Group: pota Message: 59451 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 59452 From: William Burge Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: happy birthday linda harrison
Group: pota Message: 59453 From: William Burge Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: Fw: happy birthday linda harrison
Group: pota Message: 59454 From: William Burge Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: heston 1967
Group: pota Message: 59455 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: Re: POTA Connection
Group: pota Message: 59456 From: William Burge Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: planet artwork
Group: pota Message: 59457 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59458 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: OT: "Predators 2"?
Group: pota Message: 59459 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: OT: "Predators 2"?
Group: pota Message: 59460 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: Re: planet artwork
Group: pota Message: 59461 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Predators 2"?
Group: pota Message: 59462 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Predators 2"?
Group: pota Message: 59463 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 59464 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Inception"
Group: pota Message: 59465 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: OT: "X-Men" Golden Gate Bridge
Group: pota Message: 59466 From: William Burge Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: heston artwork 1968
Group: pota Message: 59467 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Predators 2"?
Group: pota Message: 59468 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: Re: heston artwork 1968 [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 59469 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Predators 2"?
Group: pota Message: 59470 From: William Burge Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: heston photos
Group: pota Message: 59471 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/25/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 59472 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59473 From: William Burge Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: happy birthday william creber
Group: pota Message: 59474 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59475 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Predators 2"?
Group: pota Message: 59476 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59477 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Dr. Adrian
Group: pota Message: 59478 From: Robin Medford Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Re: ape artists wanted !! APE CHRONICLES New books !
Group: pota Message: 59479 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
Group: pota Message: 59480 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 59481 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Inception"
Group: pota Message: 59482 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Predators 2"?
Group: pota Message: 59483 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59484 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59485 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59486 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59487 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Inception"
Group: pota Message: 59488 From: James Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 59489 From: William Burge Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: planet photos
Group: pota Message: 59490 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59491 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59492 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59493 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Inception"
Group: pota Message: 59494 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59495 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59496 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59497 From: William Burge Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: ape photos
Group: pota Message: 59498 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59499 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Inception"
Group: pota Message: 59500 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Tom Felton on Caesar
Group: pota Message: 59501 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: OT: "Inception"
Group: pota Message: 59502 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59503 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59504 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59505 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59506 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: Tom Felton on Caesar
Group: pota Message: 59507 From: William Burge Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: heston photos
Group: pota Message: 59508 From: William Burge Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: more heston photos
Group: pota Message: 59509 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59510 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: Tom Felton on Caesar
Group: pota Message: 59511 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59512 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59513 From: Kevin Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59514 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Tom Felton is Dodge
Group: pota Message: 59515 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59516 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Tom Felton is Dodge
Group: pota Message: 59517 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Tom Felton on "Access Hollywood"
Group: pota Message: 59518 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: heston photos [6 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 59519 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Tom Felton on "Access Hollywood"
Group: pota Message: 59520 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Aaron Sims
Group: pota Message: 59521 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59522 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Tom Felton is Dodge
Group: pota Message: 59523 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59524 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: credits
Group: pota Message: 59525 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59526 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Andy in Motion Capture Suit
Group: pota Message: 59527 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: "Apes" green screen setup
Group: pota Message: 59528 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Andy in Motion Capture Suit
Group: pota Message: 59529 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Andy in Motion Capture Suit
Group: pota Message: 59530 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: pota Message: 59531 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: Re: Andy in Motion Capture Suit
Group: pota Message: 59532 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: pota SOUNDTRACK heard earlier in Dark Shadows episodes
Group: pota Message: 59533 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: Re: Andy in Motion Capture Suit
Group: pota Message: 59534 From: James Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"


Group: pota Message: 59435 From: John Date: 7/22/2010
Subject: Rebel Ape Hot Toys
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Hi Everyone

I need a favour. I have been collecting the 12 inch apes for many years and now am starting to try and make my own. I am looking for a copy of the Rebel Ape head. The one that is Caeser/Roddy chimp dressed like Che Guavarra(?)

I have been promised a copy of the face a few times but keep being let down. I wondered if there were any kind POTA fans who could do me a quick plaster copy of the face and I would of course pay the PP. I want a copy as it is a superb sculpt of Roddy's ape face and would be ideal for my Galen and Escape Cornelius figures.

Hope some one takes pity LOL

John
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Group: pota Message: 59436 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/22/2010
Subject: Lithgow a "Twitter" about "Apes"
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 John Lithgow is talking about the new Apes on his Twitter. He loves the director, stoked about Brian Cox being in the cast, they shot until 1 AM on 7/9 -10, 7/5 was indeed the 1rst day of filming, and he accidently called Freida Pinto "Leila". Sounds like the actors are enjoying this "FX" movie. John says, "I love my role in this movie! Am I wrong?"
 
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 59437 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/22/2010
Subject: Re: (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!
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That was one of the episodes I remember most. Mind you I haven't seen The Six Million Dollar Man since I was a kid so watching the entire thing on DVD would be like new to me. With only a few faint memories on the episodes. But it was one of my favorite TV shows growing up.
Really looking forward to the DVD release and hopefully Bluray.
 
Al

From: "LordTZer0@..." <LordTZer0@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 22, 2010 1:58:31 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!

 

 
If you've seen the Big Foot episode
you know why.  They really jumped
the shark with that one.  There's a
good Venture Bros. about that one.
 
In a message dated 7/21/2010 5:21:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pota1968@yahoo. com writes:
Speaking of Blu-ray or DVD releases, does anyone know when "The 6 Million Dollar Man" will ever be released on DVD format?
I'm surprised it never has

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Group: pota Message: 59438 From: William Burge Date: 7/22/2010
Subject: japan ticket stub
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dear group, found an item on ebay a japan ticket stub on planet. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 59439 From: William Burge Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: beneath photos
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dear group, found some great beneath photos on ebay enjoy from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 59440 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!
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That very episode was on today.
 
 
In a message dated 7/22/2010 6:14:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
If you've seen the Big Foot episode
you know why.  They really jumped
the shark with that one.  There's a
good Venture Bros. about that one.
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Group: pota Message: 59441 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: OT: Tom Felton in Vancouver already
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 The newly announced Tom Felton (the bad kid Malfoy in the "Harry Potter" movies) is already in Vancouver to shoot "Rise of the Apes" . I think the "ape sanctuary" scenes he's in is where the apes revolt, kind of like Ape Management in "Conquest". Don't know what's happened to our main characters at that point, the ones that raised Caesar. Lithgow says he's done by the end of the month. Shooting is scheduled to conclude Sept. 17.
 
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Group: pota Message: 59442 From: scott bosco Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!
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I was the consultant for 7 year on all I.T.C. product for A&E North American releases.  The horror of doing that was dealing with those who were in control at a company called New Video who actually made the choices for A&E.  At the time it was a company filled with a low level of knowledge staff, one in a primary position who got her job knowing a high ranking person at A&E.  She was an out and out idiot.  The rest of the staff were equally as brain damaged knowing nothing either on the technical end, or marketing venue, of home video.  The Year 1 of SPACE masters were never inspected and were received by New Video prior to me coming aboard.  When I was hired it was by a man who was left a lot to deal with due mainly to an unproductive staff, as I mentioned above.  He was the person who, while he worked there, allowed me to investigate and deal with both the UK and L.A. branches of the then Carlton , the company who owned the rights to the catalog.  Carlton would later be bought by Granada .  For a short time I actually had a direct connection with Gerry Anderson - and still have his personal cell number but found him to be a money hungry prick that would not let go of material in his personal domain unless the price was right.  I understood this to be little more than a desperate ploy for income due to his failure at a producer since divorcing his wife and partner Sylvia Anderson years prior.  My dealings with her were of the utmost professional. Unlike her co-producer ex-husband she was Lady, and kind person - truly his best half.

The same tired bonus materials have bounced back and forth from every release since.  Due to Gerry's rotten tainted personality he has made enemies with the show's stars, Martin and Barbara who were unwilling to deal with any the previous video releases.  I was in contact with their attorney in hope to procure their services for a 30Th Anniversary Edition crashed into a brick wall due to stated monies that were owed to them by Gerry in the past. Much of SPACE's problems and mishandling have been due to Gerry's need of cash, writing off the series, as well as others for quick cash.  After that it was thrown into a package of products which came under the mercy of a failing I.T.C. and bounced from company to company who either didn't know what they had buried in a library of product no one really cared about within the industry.

NETWORK DID NOT REMASTER the series.  The restoration and remastering was started by Granada , only the 5.1 re-mix was produced by NETWORK.  Originally the work was supposed to be partly backed by A&E but they backed out when I first proposed a 30Th Anniversary Edition. (They later did re-package the Series for a 30TH Anniversary Edition but didn't use the new masters.  They also had to pay me for my written ideas for that release under pain of legal action.)  NETWORK picked up the UK option and released the series as we know it. 

When Granada originally did the work they struck 2 different masters, one 1.33:1 and 1.85:1 the latter when transferred was done with tilt -meaning each scene was re-configured and re-centered from top to bottom to present the best way and considering what part of the image would be shown/and cut due to the 1.85:1 ratio.

It will be interesting to see which will be presented by A&E.  They should have both with a viewer option in the menu.

The overall quality should be stunning -but I don't expect much in terms of additional bonus material.  The packaging, if what is shown on Amazon is correct, is already disappointing, as is usual with how A&E has handled the product.  They still can't understand how stupid their newly designed logo is.  Why they don't simply go back to the original is just bad taste and judgment.

- Scott B. aka, DIGITAL CINEMA (yes, my site will be coming back.)

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
Subject: [pota] (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 10:13 AM

 
This one is for Mr. Digital Cinema:
 
A&E Home Entertainment is going to build on the success of their recent (and awesome) Prisoner Blu-ray release by bowing Space: 1999 - The Complete Season 1 on Blu-ray this Fall! SRP is $99.95 for the 6-disc set, but Amazon has it for just $69.99.


 

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Group: pota Message: 59443 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Ape City Chronicles
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Good morning everyone! The newest installement of APE CITY CHRONICLES is now available.

To access click on the banner on the Yahoo home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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Group: pota Message: 59444 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: japan ticket stub [1 Attachment]
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Sure would be interesting if photos existed of the openings of PLANET around the world.  Looks like the Japanese stuff was cool.




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From: William Burge <billburge48@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: billburge48@...
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 9:49 pm
Subject: [pota] japan ticket stub [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from William Burge included below]
dear group, found an item on ebay a japan ticket stub on planet. from william burge
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Group: pota Message: 59445 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: POTA Connection
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OK, since Veetus just wants to fool around and no one else is responding, I'll tell you what the "POTA Connection" is with PLANET '68 and the new movie.
It's Brian Cox.  (I thought he was older than John Lithgow, but Lithgow is actually one year older.)
 
Cox played Trotsky in the 1971 film NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA -- which was directed by Franklin J. Schaffner!
 
(See attached photo from film of Cox as Trotsky.)
 
I think that's a good omen for the new movie.  I hope it is, anyway.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59446 From: rassmguy Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: (OT) Space 1999 goes Blu!
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That was a fascinating read, Scott--thanks for posting that!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, scott bosco <digitalcinema@...> wrote:
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> I was the consultant for 7 year on all I.T.C. product for A&E North American releases. The horror of doing that was dealing with those who were in control at a company called New Video who actually made the choices for A&E. At the time it was a company filled with a low level of knowledge staff, one in a primary position who got her job knowing a high ranking person at A&E. She was an out and out idiot. The rest of the staff were equally as brain damaged knowing nothing either on the technical end, or marketing venue, of home video. The Year 1 of SPACE masters were never inspected and were received by New Video prior to me coming aboard. When I was hired it was by a man who was left a lot to deal with due mainly to an unproductive staff, as I mentioned above. He was the person who, while he worked there, allowed me to investigate and deal with both the UK and L.A. branches of the then Carlton, the company who owned the rights to the
> catalog. Carlton would later be bought by Granada. For a short time I actually had a direct connection with Gerry Anderson - and still have his personal cell number but found him to be a money hungry prick that would not let go of material in his personal domain unless the price was right. I understood this to be little more than a desperate ploy for income due to his failure at a producer since divorcing his wife and partner Sylvia Anderson years prior. My dealings with her were of the utmost professional. Unlike her co-producer ex-husband she was Lady, and kind person - truly his best half.
> The same tired bonus materials have bounced back and forth from every release since. Due to Gerry's rotten tainted personality he has made enemies with the show's stars, Martin and Barbara who were unwilling to deal with any the previous video releases. I was in contact with their attorney in hope to procure their services for a 30Th Anniversary Edition crashed into a brick wall due to stated monies that were owed to them by Gerry in the past. Much of SPACE's problems and mishandling have been due to Gerry's need of cash, writing off the series, as well as others for quick cash.  After that it was thrown into a package of products which came under the mercy of a failing I.T.C. and bounced from company to company who either didn't know what they had buried in a library of product no one really cared about within the industry.
> NETWORK DID NOT REMASTER the series. The restoration and remastering was started by Granada, only the 5.1 re-mix was produced by NETWORK. Originally the work was supposed to be partly backed by A&E but they backed out when I first proposed a 30Th Anniversary Edition. (They later did re-package the Series for a 30TH Anniversary Edition but didn’t use the new masters. They also had to pay me for my written ideas for that release under pain of legal action.)  NETWORK picked up the UK option and released the series as we know it.Â
> When Granada originally did the work they struck 2 different masters, one 1.33:1 and 1.85:1 the latter when transferred was done with tilt -meaning each scene was re-configured and re-centered from top to bottom to present the best way and considering what part of the image would be shown/and cut due to the 1.85:1 ratio.
> It will be interesting to see which will be presented by A&E. They should have both with a viewer option in the menu.
> The overall quality should be stunning -but I don't expect much in terms of additional bonus material. The packaging, if what is shown on Amazon is correct, is already disappointing, as is usual with how A&E has handled the product. They still can't understand how stupid their newly designed logo is. Why they don't simply go back to the original is just bad taste and judgment.
> - Scott B. aka, DIGITAL CINEMA (yes, my site will be coming back.)
>
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Group: pota Message: 59447 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: POTA Connection [1 Attachment]
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  Well, I'll be! Not bad for an actor you can't stand. He was also the first film Hannibal Lector in "Manhunter" before Anthony Hopkins has his way with it. And most important, he was in something called "Shades of Greene". These days maybe THAT'S a good omen.
 

Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:58 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Connection [1 Attachment]

 

OK, since Veetus just wants to fool around and no one else is responding, I'll tell you what the "POTA Connection" is with PLANET '68 and the new movie.
It's Brian Cox.  (I thought he was older than John Lithgow, but Lithgow is actually one year older.)
 
Cox played Trotsky in the 1971 film NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA -- which was directed by Franklin J. Schaffner!
 
(See attached photo from film of Cox as Trotsky.)
 
I think that's a good omen for the new movie.  I hope it is, anyway.
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 59448 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Linda Harrison's Birthday
 
Date:   Saturday July 24, 2010
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Group: pota Message: 59449 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/23/2010
Subject: Re: Birthday Reminder
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I had no idea Linda Harrison's birthday was July 24th.
My mother's birthday is July 23rd.
 
Too cool.
Al

 

From: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 11:48:31 PM
Subject: [pota] Birthday Reminder



Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Linda Harrison's Birthday
 
Date:   Saturday July 24, 2010
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Group: pota Message: 59450 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: ape artists wanted !! APE CHRONICLES New books !
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After 19 years I have decided to stop reprinting individual issues and try to improve the appearance overall
by compiling the old issues into new book formats
So we will be taking the original 44 issues and putting them in 6 books
(Issue #45 onwards are in the new book format)
 
I thought it might be nice to showcase POTA artwork that is new and original and wanted to see if anyone would like to be part of this
 
Of course my favorite ape artists include those such as Neil Foster, Graham Hill, Maz Adams etc
If anyone is interested in contributing to the front cover let me know
so in other words I am looking for 6 new pieces of artwork
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Group: pota Message: 59451 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/24/2010
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Happy birthday to your Mom!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
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> I had no idea Linda Harrison's birthday was July 24th.
> My mother's birthday is July 23rd.
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> Too cool.
> Al
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>  
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Group: pota Message: 59452 From: William Burge Date: 7/24/2010
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dear group,  here is my birthday tribute to linda harrison with 3 photos of linda. from william burge

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--- On Sat, 7/24/10, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:

From: William Burge <billburge48@...>
Subject: happy birthday linda harrison
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: billburge48@...
Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 3:21 AM

dear group,  here is my birthday tribute to linda harrison with 3 photos of linda. from william burge


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dear group, found a rare photo of charlton heston and wife lydia arriving at the oscars the night of april 10, 1967. heston was there to give an special oscar to stunt actor yakima canutt. stated in hestons journals he was in the middle filming the western will penny. from william burge

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Damn and I thought it was that John Lithgow was in the Twilight Zone.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> OK, since Veetus just wants to fool around and no one else is responding, I'll tell you what the "POTA Connection" is with PLANET '68 and the new movie.
>
> It's Brian Cox. (I thought he was older than John Lithgow, but Lithgow is actually one year older.)
>
> Cox played Trotsky in the 1971 film NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA -- which was directed by Franklin J. Schaffner!
>
> (See attached photo from film of Cox as Trotsky.)
>
> I think that's a good omen for the new movie. I hope it is, anyway.
>
> -- Rory
>

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Group: pota Message: 59456 From: William Burge Date: 7/24/2010
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dear group, found some neat artwork on planet. enjoy from william burge

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 A Vancouverian took some pics of the "Rise of the Apes" outdoor green screen setup. Reportedly the film climaxes with a battle at the Golden Gate Bridge (like the "bridge" battle in "Conquest"). This setup looks like the one used to do the Golden Gate Bridge scene in "X-Men: The Last Stand". For those who have or can rent the two-disc version of that film, there's an extra called "Anatomy of A Scene". This is about the GGB scene (the mutants divert the Bridge so it goes to Alcatraz) and shows probably how they will shoot the scene in "Rise".
 
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Group: pota Message: 59458 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/24/2010
Subject: OT: "Predators 2"?
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From: Jeff K.
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:05 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: "Predators 2"?

 

 Yes, I can tell the difference between an ape and a Predator. But once again, I think this is reflective of how Fox is thinking and relates to "Rise of the Apes". Comic-Con has been going a couple days and Robert Rodriguez confirms that Fox is interested in a "Predators 2" (not to be confused with "Predator 2"). Now, "Predators" received a decidedly mixed reaction and has not taken the box office by storm. So far it's made $ 81 million world wide, but it only cost $ 40 million and with little advertising. Anyway, it's perceived as a poor showing for an established franchise so the idea of a sequel might seem a surprise to some.
 But Rodriguez says they were just "testing the water" with this first one and are now going to go bigger. And that seems to be the plan with "Rise of the Apes". The apes reportedly don't get busy until the end so it will be the same situation, and then the sequels will be ape fests. But this news suggests to me that Fox is very forgiving and intent on reestablishing these franchises. So even if this first "Apes" isn't "Inception" level, they'll cut it some slack.
 

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Group: pota Message: 59459 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2010
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 Yes, I can tell the difference between an ape and a Predator. But once again, I think this is reflective of how Fox is thinking and relates to "Rise of the Apes". Comic-Con has been going a couple days and Robert Rodriguez confirms that Fox is interested in a "Predators 2" (not to be confused with "Predator 2"). Now, "Predators" received a decidedly mixed reaction and has not taken the box office by storm. So far it's made $ 81 million world wide, but it only cost $ 40 million and with little advertising. Anyway, it's perceived as a poor showing for an established franchise so the idea of a sequel might seem a surprise to some.
 But Rodriguez says they were just "testing the water" with this first one and are now going to go bigger. And that seems to be the plan with "Rise of the Apes". The apes reportedly don't get busy until the end so it will be the same situation, and then the sequels will be ape fests. But this news suggests to me that Fox is very forgiving and intent on reestablishing these franchises. So even if this first "Apes" isn't "Inception" level, they'll cut it some slack.
 
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Group: pota Message: 59460 From: jamesa1102 Date: 7/25/2010
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Thanks William!

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> dear group, found some neat artwork on planet. enjoy from william burge
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Group: pota Message: 59461 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/25/2010
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that seems to be the plan with "Rise of the Apes". The apes reportedly don't get busy until the end so it will be the same situation, and then the sequels will be ape fests. But this news suggests to me that Fox is very forgiving and intent on reestablishing these franchises. So even if this first "Apes" isn't "Inception" level, they'll cut it some slack.

The thing Fox shouldn't cut any slack with is the script!  THE SCRIPT IS THE THING, and worth more than any huge budget SFX.
 
"The apes reportedly don't get busy until the end so it will be the same situation, and then the sequels will be ape fests."
 
This kind of comment bothers me, because it's so typical of too many APES fans that seem only interested in APES doing violence -- that seems all that POTA is to them.  I say, "what about characters you care about (simian or otherwise), dialogue that isn't inane, and satire and allegory that's truly clever?"
 
Mark my words, if there's going to be a new series of APES films, and it quickly becomes just "action adventures of the apes" then it will SUCK!
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59462 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/25/2010
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So even if this first "Apes" isn't "Inception" level, they'll cut it some slack.
AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!   OOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!...... the pain, the pain.
I saw INCEPTION yesterday.
 
WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP!  IT SUUUUUUCKED!
 
I'm not going to even bother commenting further, except to say that RISE had better not be anything like INCEPTION.
What's your opinion, Veetus?
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59463 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/25/2010
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Thanks, James! :o)
 
Al

From: jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 7:40:20 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Birthday Reminder

 

Happy birthday to your Mom!

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Group: pota Message: 59464 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2010
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  I liked "Inception". Why did it SUUUUUUCK? But I was referring more to it's box office status at the moment.

Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: OT: "Predators 2"?

 


So even if this first "Apes" isn't "Inception" level, they'll cut it some slack.
AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUGGGGGGGGGH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H!!!!!!!   OOOOOOOOOOOH! !!!!..... . the pain, the pain.
I saw INCEPTION yesterday.
 
WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP!  IT SUUUUUUCKED!
 
I'm not going to even bother commenting further, except to say that RISE had better not be anything like INCEPTION.
What's your opinion, Veetus?
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 59465 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/25/2010
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 This video opens with the Golden Gate Bridge scene in "X-Men 3". Reportedly the early script for "Rise of the Apes" includes a battle on the Golden Gate Bridge. I wouldn't be surprised if Fox chose San Francisco as the location because they have the elements from this scene (this movie only came out 3 years ago). Unfortunately I couldn't find the making of on youtube but the green screen setup for "Rise" looks pretty much the same as the one for this used to film the people and the cars, and then everything else is CG elements (they DID film actual bridge models, it's not all just computers). People aren't allowed to film on the Bridge anyway, and even aerial footage has to be shot from a certain distance. I may be way off but this footage might be the same elements they use for the apes' climactic attack.
 
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Group: pota Message: 59466 From: William Burge Date: 7/25/2010
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dear group, here is the artwork to another film charlton heston released in 1968- will penny. from william burge. this artwork went on the vhs  cover.

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Group: pota Message: 59468 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/25/2010
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Actually, I think that artwork dates from the film's original release and was done from a scene photo.




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Cc: billburge48@...
Sent: Sun, Jul 25, 2010 3:32 pm
Subject: [pota] heston artwork 1968 [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from William Burge included below]
dear group, here is the artwork to another film charlton heston released in 1968- will penny. from william burge. this artwork went on the vhs  cover.
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Group: pota Message: 59469 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/25/2010
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I am hoping this new movie will have good character development, not just action scenes. Elaine
Don't hold your breath -- fourteen year old boys don't care about character development.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59470 From: William Burge Date: 7/25/2010
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dear group, found two photos of heston in 1973- the first is from another sci fi film soylent green the second in public outing. from william burge

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Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Group: pota Message: 59472 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/26/2010
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A Vancouverian took some pics of the "Rise of the Apes" outdoor green screen setup. Reportedly the film climaxes with a battle at the Golden Gate Bridge (like the "bridge" battle in "Conquest"). This setup looks like the one used to do the Golden Gate Bridge scene in "X-Men: The Last Stand". For those who have or can rent the two-disc version of that film, there's an extra called "Anatomy of A Scene". This is about the GGB scene (the mutants divert the Bridge so it goes to Alcatraz) and shows probably how they will shoot the scene in "Rise".
 

Before I get to my response to this, I was just wondering if anyone else here has Google Earth and has looked at the Mammoth Studios facility up in Vancouver?  It's one big sound stage, surrounded by "alot" of nothing, but I guess they need the room and it gets the job done.
 
I've not seen X-MEN: THE LAST STAND, and have no desire to, but I have seen Fox's WOLVERINE and so I can pretty much guess what kind of CGI "look" this new movie will have, which leads me to this comment on what Veetus says....
 
I HATE DVD EXTRAS THAT "DECONSTRUCT" THE SFX OF A MOVIE!!!!!
 
There, I screamed it!
 
You know, Home Video, DVDs and Blu-rays are wonderful things for the film lover to have, but it used to be that film's had "magic."  Unless you were really into it and knew how to find out the information, you had little clue as to how movie SFX were done -- AND THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!  I love seeing behind-the-scenes photos, and outtakes and such, but I really couldn't care less -- for the most part -- how most SFX scenes were done.  I don't like the "illusion" ruined, which is pretty much what these "Anatomy of a Scene" featurettes do.  Also, generally, they're incredibly pretentious as to how "cool" it all is and how cleaver the filmmakers are.  More often than not, these featurettes are things I never bother to look at when I rent a DVD, and if I do give them a look, I usually bailout after the first minute or two.  They're mostly self-congratulatory junk, and can actually be quite laughable when the movie itself stinks!  I'll bet -- if there are any on the DVD -- that the "Making of" featurettes for BATTLEFIELD EARTH are a real hoot!
 
I'm glad I was only eight when I first saw PLANET.  I remember that for the longest time I had no idea how the makeup was done, and in fact, I don't recall seeing it applied to anyone until after BENEATH came out.  While I often think how great it would have been to have DVDs back in 1968, I'm actually glad I had that "know nothing" period of no "Making of" featurettes.  Of course, there was one made in 1968 on PLANET's makeup, but unless you were in the right place at the right time to see it -- you never saw it, and I never saw it until 1976 when I bought a 16mm print of it!
 
What's your opinion, Veetus?
 
-- Rory   
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Group: pota Message: 59473 From: William Burge Date: 7/26/2010
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dear group , here is my birthday tribute to a great set designer mr creber. thanks for making planet of the apes great. from william burge

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 My opinion is I love "making of" features, especially the good ones. I think it's great that it gives some attention to the hard working people behind the scenes. Some of the stuff available on DVDs is a treasure trove. As with anything else a lot is mediocre. But when they put in the effort, some of the DVD extras are better than the movies (such as the POTA2001 stuff). People don't have to watch them if they don't want to spoil the "magic", but it's nice that they're there. Usually I only watch the ones for films or filmmakers I like. And internet reviews are good for determining what extras are worth watching.  Usually the "FX" extras are my least favorite because they've become the same old same old these days, people in front of green screens. But it does give me a lot more appreciation for CG FX. There's a lot more to it than people think.
 

Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 



Before I get to my response to this, I was just wondering if anyone else here has Google Earth and has looked at the Mammoth Studios facility up in Vancouver?  It's one big sound stage, surrounded by "alot" of nothing, but I guess they need the room and it gets the job done.
 
I've not seen X-MEN: THE LAST STAND, and have no desire to, but I have seen Fox's WOLVERINE and so I can pretty much guess what kind of CGI "look" this new movie will have, which leads me to this comment on what Veetus says....
 
I HATE DVD EXTRAS THAT "DECONSTRUCT" THE SFX OF A MOVIE!!!!!
 
There, I screamed it!
 
You know, Home Video, DVDs and Blu-rays are wonderful things for the film lover to have, but it used to be that film's had "magic."  Unless you were really into it and knew how to find out the information, you had little clue as to how movie SFX were done -- AND THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!  I love seeing behind-the-scenes photos, and outtakes and such, but I really couldn't care less -- for the most part -- how most SFX scenes were done.  I don't like the "illusion" ruined, which is pretty much what these "Anatomy of a Scene" featurettes do.  Also, generally, they're incredibly pretentious as to how "cool" it all is and how cleaver the filmmakers are.  More often than not, these featurettes are things I never bother to look at when I rent a DVD, and if I do give them a look, I usually bailout after the first minute or two.  They're mostly self-congratulatory junk, and can actually be quite laughable when the movie itself stinks!  I'll bet -- if there are any on the DVD -- that the "Making of" featurettes for BATTLEFIELD EARTH are a real hoot!
 
I'm glad I was only eight when I first saw PLANET.  I remember that for the longest time I had no idea how the makeup was done, and in fact, I don't recall seeing it applied to anyone until after BENEATH came out.  While I often think how great it would have been to have DVDs back in 1968, I'm actually glad I had that "know nothing" period of no "Making of" featurettes.  Of course, there was one made in 1968 on PLANET's makeup, but unless you were in the right place at the right time to see it -- you never saw it, and I never saw it until 1976 when I bought a 16mm print of it!
 
What's your opinion, Veetus?
 
-- Rory   


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Group: pota Message: 59475 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/26/2010
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Group: pota Message: 59476 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/26/2010
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I agree about all the features explaining everything! Even though I work in the movies, it still ruins things when you see how it's all done. Some are fascinating like "Coraline" explaining the stop motion process....but Burton's "Alice in Wonderland" which I thought was plodding and boring and pointless and irritating...the features just exposed how much it was all fake.....90% of the time, the actors were wearing green standing among green and looking at green tennis balls......


From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 12:31:00 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 



Before I get to my response to this, I was just wondering if anyone else here has Google Earth and has looked at the Mammoth Studios facility up in Vancouver?  It's one big sound stage, surrounded by "alot" of nothing, but I guess they need the room and it gets the job done.
 
I've not seen X-MEN: THE LAST STAND, and have no desire to, but I have seen Fox's WOLVERINE and so I can pretty much guess what kind of CGI "look" this new movie will have, which leads me to this comment on what Veetus says....
 
I HATE DVD EXTRAS THAT "DECONSTRUCT" THE SFX OF A MOVIE!!!!!
 
There, I screamed it!
 
You know, Home Video, DVDs and Blu-rays are wonderful things for the film lover to have, but it used to be that film's had "magic."  Unless you were really into it and knew how to find out the information, you had little clue as to how movie SFX were done -- AND THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!  I love seeing behind-the-scenes photos, and outtakes and such, but I really couldn't care less -- for the most part -- how most SFX scenes were done.  I don't like the "illusion" ruined, which is pretty much what these "Anatomy of a Scene" featurettes do.  Also, generally, they're incredibly pretentious as to how "cool" it all is and how cleaver the filmmakers are.  More often than not, these featurettes are things I never bother to look at when I rent a DVD, and if I do give them a look, I usually bailout after the first minute or two.  They're mostly self-congratulatory junk, and can actually be quite laughable when the movie itself stinks!  I'll bet -- if there are any on the DVD -- that the "Making of" featurettes for BATTLEFIELD EARTH are a real hoot!
 
I'm glad I was only eight when I first saw PLANET.  I remember that for the longest time I had no idea how the makeup was done, and in fact, I don't recall seeing it applied to anyone until after BENEATH came out.  While I often think how great it would have been to have DVDs back in 1968, I'm actually glad I had that "know nothing" period of no "Making of" featurettes.  Of course, there was one made in 1968 on PLANET's makeup, but unless you were in the right place at the right time to see it -- you never saw it, and I never saw it until 1976 when I bought a 16mm print of it!
 
What's your opinion, Veetus?
 
-- Rory   



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Group: pota Message: 59477 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/26/2010
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 I wonder if the Boris Karloff movie "The Ape" had anything to do with the POTA episode "The Surgeon". In "The Ape", Karloff plays Dr. Adrian, who pretends he's an ape. In "The Surgeon", Galen is an ape who pretends he's a doctor and takes the name "Dr. Adrian".  I'm just saying.
 
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Group: pota Message: 59478 From: Robin Medford Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Re: ape artists wanted !! APE CHRONICLES New books !
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Hi there!!!!

Just read your mail- will be interested in the new APES upcoming format

Keep me posted

Robin

--- On Sat, 24/7/10, Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...> wrote:

From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...>
Subject: [pota] ape artists wanted !! APE CHRONICLES New books !
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 8:51

 

After 19 years I have decided to stop reprinting individual issues and try to improve the appearance overall
by compiling the old issues into new book formats
So we will be taking the original 44 issues and putting them in 6 books
(Issue #45 onwards are in the new book format)
 
I thought it might be nice to showcase POTA artwork that is new and original and wanted to see if anyone would like to be part of this
 
Of course my favorite ape artists include those such as Neil Foster, Graham Hill, Maz Adams etc
If anyone is interested in contributing to the front cover let me know
so in other words I am looking for 6 new pieces of artwork
thanks
 

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Subject: Anniversary Reminder
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Group: pota Message: 59481 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
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I liked "Inception". Why did it SUUUUUUCK? But I was referring more to it's box office status at the moment.
It was just a hodgepodge of stuff.  It's supposed to be clever and have some meaning, but only the director/writer knows what that is.  I found it uninteresting and boring.  If it wasn't so loud at times, I'd have slept through half of it.
 
For the record -- thought THE MATRIX was crap, too, and didn't think THE DARK KNIGHT was anything great.
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Group: pota Message: 59482 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/27/2010
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  Well, in John Lithgow's Twitter account that I linked he said that on July 9th they got a "beautiful rewrite" of a father-son scene. Lithgow seems happy with the scenes and the director. That's all we can go on for now. The writers are also producers so maybe that helps.
 

Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:47 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: OT: "Predators 2"?

 



The thing Fox shouldn't cut any slack with is the script!  THE SCRIPT IS THE THING, and worth more than any huge budget SFX.
 
"The apes reportedly don't get busy until the end so it will be the same situation, and then the sequels will be ape fests."
 
This kind of comment bothers me, because it's so typical of too many APES fans that seem only interested in APES doing violence -- that seems all that POTA is to them.  I say, "what about characters you care about (simian or otherwise), dialogue that isn't inane, and satire and allegory that's truly clever?"
 
Mark my words, if there's going to be a new series of APES films, and it quickly becomes just "action adventures of the apes" then it will SUCK!
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 59483 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
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My opinion is I love "making of" features, especially the good ones. I think it's great that it gives some attention to the hard working people behind the scenes.
Screw the "hard working people behind the scenes."  They're supposed to be behind the scenes and you're not supposed to think about them.  You're supposed to suspend your disbelief and just watch the movie -- which is also why the still frame button is a bad thing for the "magic" of the movies.  But this leads me to something else I hate about modern movies -- the end credit roll.  They are ridiculous now with these eight-minute-plus end credits these days.  When you see the running times for movies now it's a lie because the last few minutes a just credits.  Who cares?  You want to find that information, go to IMDB.  I like it when movies just end with "THE END" and a cast roll. 
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Group: pota Message: 59484 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/27/2010
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> You know, Home Video, DVDs and Blu-rays are wonderful things for the
> film lover to have, but it used to be that film's had "magic."

I agree 100%, Rory.

I will occasionally watch them, as I did over the weekend with the
ALICE IN WONDERLAND Blu-ray. But in that case, the whole movie
screamed CG SFX, and I was actually curious how some of it was done.
In most cases, it's best to avoid them, or you find out just how much
of what you love about a movie never existed. The amount of green
screen used in everyday scenes these days is mind-boggling and a
little pathetic. In a new movie, if you see people eating in a
restaurant, odds are that it was filmed in a green screen room with
a handful of people and a couple of tables. All the rest is CG. It
oftentimes looks it, but sometimes it doesn't, and while it's cool to
see that they got away with it in those cases, it also ruins future
viewings for me.

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 59485 From: Jeff Barkley Date: 7/27/2010
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If you don't like the BTS specials, don't watch them.
 
Jeff B
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My opinion is I love "making of" features, especially the good ones. I think it's great that it gives some attention to the hard working people behind the scenes.
Screw the "hard working people behind the scenes."  They're supposed to be behind the scenes and you're not supposed to think about them.  You're supposed to suspend your disbelief and just watch the movie -- which is also why the still frame button is a bad thing for the "magic" of the movies.  But this leads me to something else I hate about modern movies -- the end credit roll.  They are ridiculous now with these eight-minute- plus end credits these days.  When you see the running times for movies now it's a lie because the last few minutes a just credits.  Who cares?  You want to find that information, go to IMDB.  I like it when movies just end with "THE END" and a cast roll. 

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Group: pota Message: 59486 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/27/2010
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Agree one thousand percent! John M.....

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> My opinion is I love "making of" features, especially the good ones. I think it's great that it gives some attention to the hard working people behind the scenes. Some of the stuff available on DVDs is a treasure trove. As with anything else a lot is mediocre. But when they put in the effort, some of the DVD extras are better than the movies (such as the POTA2001 stuff). People don't have to watch them if they don't want to spoil the "magic", but it's nice that they're there. Usually I only watch the ones for films or filmmakers I like. And internet reviews are good for determining what extras are worth watching. Usually the "FX" extras are my least favorite because they've become the same old same old these days, people in front of green screens. But it does give me a lot more appreciation for CG FX. There's a lot more to it than people think.
>
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 9:31 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup
>
>
>
> Before I get to my response to this, I was just wondering if anyone else here has Google Earth and has looked at the Mammoth Studios facility up in Vancouver? It's one big sound stage, surrounded by "alot" of nothing, but I guess they need the room and it gets the job done.
>
> I've not seen X-MEN: THE LAST STAND, and have no desire to, but I have seen Fox's WOLVERINE and so I can pretty much guess what kind of CGI "look" this new movie will have, which leads me to this comment on what Veetus says....
>
> I HATE DVD EXTRAS THAT "DECONSTRUCT" THE SFX OF A MOVIE!!!!!
>
> There, I screamed it!
>
> You know, Home Video, DVDs and Blu-rays are wonderful things for the film lover to have, but it used to be that film's had "magic." Unless you were really into it and knew how to find out the information, you had little clue as to how movie SFX were done -- AND THIS IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE! I love seeing behind-the-scenes photos, and outtakes and such, but I really couldn't care less -- for the most part -- how most SFX scenes were done. I don't like the "illusion" ruined, which is pretty much what these "Anatomy of a Scene" featurettes do. Also, generally, they're incredibly pretentious as to how "cool" it all is and how cleaver the filmmakers are. More often than not, these featurettes are things I never bother to look at when I rent a DVD, and if I do give them a look, I usually bailout after the first minute or two. They're mostly self-congratulatory junk, and can actually be quite laughable when the movie itself stinks! I'll bet -- if there are any on the DVD -- that the "Making of" featurettes for BATTLEFIELD EARTH are a real hoot!
>
> I'm glad I was only eight when I first saw PLANET. I remember that for the longest time I had no idea how the makeup was done, and in fact, I don't recall seeing it applied to anyone until after BENEATH came out. While I often think how great it would have been to have DVDs back in 1968, I'm actually glad I had that "know nothing" period of no "Making of" featurettes. Of course, there was one made in 1968 on PLANET's makeup, but unless you were in the right place at the right time to see it -- you never saw it, and I never saw it until 1976 when I bought a 16mm print of it!
>
> What's your opinion, Veetus?
>
> -- Rory
>
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People complain about too many prequels, sequels and remakes then something original like "Inception" comes along and they want to complain about that as well. I don't know, is it just me or did I miss something.
 
I liked "Inception" as well.
 
Al 

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, July 25, 2010 2:28:45 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: OT: "Inception"

 

  I liked "Inception". Why did it SUUUUUUCK? But I was referring more to it's box office status at the moment.

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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Wahlberg To Shine On Hollywood Boulevard
WCVB-TV
Other film credits include "Date Night," "The Lovely Bones," "Max Payne," "Shooter," "Invincible," "The Italian Job," "Planet of the Apes," "The Perfect ...
See all stories on this topic »

The top 10 biggest shocks in film
Coventry Telegraph (blog)
Planet of the Apes [1968] - that the setting is in fact Earth in the future (1%) Martin Gough, senior product manager at E1 Entertainment, commented: "The ...
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Coventry Telegraph (blog)

Ten Films That Weren't at Comic Con ... But Should Have Been
Cinematical (blog)
Planet of the Apes: Rise of the Apes: Fox didn't seem to have much of a presence this year beyond Machete (unless you count the Gulliver's Travels trailer ...
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Strange Horizons: I want my monkeyman!
By Jon Nichols
Perhaps it was from multiple viewings of the Planet of the Apes movies starting when I was a mere 8 years-old. The vision of upright-walking gorillas carrying rifles just seemed so cool. Cool, yet rather sinister at the same time as it ...
Strange Horizons - http://strangehorizons.blogspot.com/

 

 

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  Movies aren't "magic", they're the work of a lot of people. You can choose to watch the "behind the scenes" after seeing the movie or not watch them at all. But I think they're a good thing for those who are interested.
 

Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 7:27 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 


Screw the "hard working people behind the scenes."  They're supposed to be behind the scenes and you're not supposed to think about them.  You're supposed to suspend your disbelief and just watch the movie -- which is also why the still frame button is a bad thing for the "magic" of the movies.  But this leads me to something else I hate about modern movies -- the end credit roll.  They are ridiculous now with these eight-minute- plus end credits these days.  When you see the running times for movies now it's a lie because the last few minutes a just credits.  Who cares?  You want to find that information, go to IMDB.  I like it when movies just end with "THE END" and a cast roll. 

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Group: pota Message: 59491 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/27/2010
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  Well, that's true. Those scenes in the new "King Kong" where they land on the island...shot in a parking lot. Even Peter Jackson was surprised how well they could create ocean with CG, and that was after he had done "Lord of the Rings". But there is a shot of dolphins swimming next to the ship. I was sure those were CG but they are real. They did shoot some actual footage of the boat in the ocean, second unit stuff.

Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 

> You know, Home Video, DVDs and Blu-rays are wonderful things for

the
> film lover to have, but it used to be that film's had
"magic."

I agree 100%, Rory.

I will occasionally watch them, as I did over the weekend with the
ALICE IN WONDERLAND Blu-ray. But in that case, the whole movie
screamed CG SFX, and I was actually curious how some of it was done.
In most cases, it's best to avoid them, or you find out just how much
of what you love about a movie never existed. The amount of green
screen used in everyday scenes these days is mind-boggling and a
little pathetic. In a new movie, if you see people eating in a
restaurant, odds are that it was filmed in a green screen room with
a handful of people and a couple of tables. All the rest is CG. It
oftentimes looks it, but sometimes it doesn't, and while it's cool to
see that they got away with it in those cases, it also ruins future
viewings for me.

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 59492 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
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Well, that's true. Those scenes in the new "King Kong" where they land on the island...shot in a parking lot. Even Peter Jackson was surprised how well they could create ocean with CG, and that was after he had done "Lord of the Rings". But there is a shot of dolphins swimming next to the ship. I was sure those were CG but they are real. They did shoot some actual footage of the boat in the ocean, second unit stuff.
And how does knowing all that enhance watching the movie again?  Does it help you "get into" the fantasy of the thing -- which is why the movie exists in the first place?  NO, IT DOES NOT!
 
And that's my point, lost as it is on Veetus.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59493 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
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People complain about too many prequels, sequels and remakes then something original like "Inception" comes along and they want to complain about that as well. I don't know, is it just me or did I miss something.
 
I liked "Inception" as well.
 
Al 


I don't see what was so original about INCEPTION.  It seemed very derivative to me.  One part was like ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE MEETS THE MATRIX.  I remember a movie called DREAMSCAPE from like 25 years ago!
 
What was original?
 
And Ellen Page... saw her in not only INCEPTION this weekend, but also on Blu-ray in WHIP IT.  Now I'm kind of Paged out.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59494 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
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Movies aren't "magic", they're the work of a lot of people. You can choose to watch the "behind the scenes" after seeing the movie or not watch them at all. But I think they're a good thing for those who are interested.
The people who make the movies sure spend a lot of money trying to tell you how magical they are -- even when they're not.  How many movies do we see promoted as if they were the Second Coming?
 
If you have a really good restaurant meal, is it enhanced by going back into the kitchen and asking the chef to show you exactly how it was made?
You know, Spielberg doesn't do commentary tracks for this very reason.  Kubrick used to destroy all his sets, blueprints and costumes after filming was completed, and all outtakes and unused footage later on.  Gee, I wonder why?
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59495 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/27/2010
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Rory...I have to disagree there....I know many behind the scenes people who work their asses off on films....are on the set well before and much later than the actors (who work maybe a few minutes at a time then sit in trailers) and sometimes get no credit at all and much less money. THey deserve at least their names mentioned at the end of the movie. you don't have to sit throught the credits.......


From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 10:27:54 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 


My opinion is I love "making of" features, especially the good ones. I think it's great that it gives some attention to the hard working people behind the scenes.
Screw the "hard working people behind the scenes."  They're supposed to be behind the scenes and you're not supposed to think about them.  You're supposed to suspend your disbelief and just watch the movie -- which is also why the still frame button is a bad thing for the "magic" of the movies.  But this leads me to something else I hate about modern movies -- the end credit roll.  They are ridiculous now with these eight-minute- plus end credits these days.  When you see the running times for movies now it's a lie because the last few minutes a just credits.  Who cares?  You want to find that information, go to IMDB.  I like it when movies just end with "THE END" and a cast roll. 

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Group: pota Message: 59496 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
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Rory...I have to disagree there....I know many behind the scenes people who work their asses off on films....are on the set well before and much later than the actors (who work maybe a few minutes at a time then sit in trailers) and sometimes get no credit at all and much less money. THey deserve at least their names mentioned at the end of the movie. you don't have to sit throught the credits..... ..

I don't sit through the credits -- I'm out the door as soon as the narrative ends -- unless I want to see where it was shot or something.
 
But, I don't see how everyone behind the scenes of a movie deserves a screen credit at the end.  Their involvement often isn't that essential to the final product, and in the long run, "Who cares?"
 
I produce a product every work day, but my name isn't on it, and I don't want it to be.  Who cares?
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59497 From: William Burge Date: 7/27/2010
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dear group, found a few ape photos --last photo shows planet  display in 08 at a planet hollywood in ny. from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 59498 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
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I'd have to agree with Rory.
Who gives a damn if Jerry Goldsmith did a score on a movie? Hit a couple of trash can covers together and they call it music.
BLAH! Music Composers deserve not credit!
 
Right, Rory? :o)
 
Al  

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 9:56:01 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 

  Movies aren't "magic", they're the work of a lot of people. You can choose to watch the "behind the scenes" after seeing the movie or not watch them at all. But I think they're a good thing for those who are interested.
 

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Group: pota Message: 59499 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
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"Dreamscape" was no different than "Nightmare on Elm Street."
Die in your dream, die in real life.
 
"Inception" was a little bit more original and creative than that.
 
Al

From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 11:32:55 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: OT: "Inception"

 


People complain about too many prequels, sequels and remakes then something original like "Inception" comes along and they want to complain about that as well. I don't know, is it just me or did I miss something.
 
I liked "Inception" as well.
 
Al 


I don't see what was so original about INCEPTION.  It seemed very derivative to me.  One part was like ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE MEETS THE MATRIX.  I remember a movie called DREAMSCAPE from like 25 years ago!
 
What was original?
 
And Ellen Page... saw her in not only INCEPTION this weekend, but also on Blu-ray in WHIP IT.  Now I'm kind of Paged out.
 
-- Rory

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Group: pota Message: 59500 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
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Tom Felton, who plays Draco Malfoy in the Harry Potter films, says he has begun filming Rise of the Apes, a prequel to the popular Planet of the Apes sci-fi movies, and also finished shooting a movie with Twilight's Ashley Greene.

 

"I've just started shooting Caesar, Rise of the Apes, which is the Planet of the Apes prequel, which I'm mega, mega excited about," Felton said. "It's a project that I've been really passionate about for a long time."

 

Article Link: http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/2010/07/tom-felton-begins-shooting-rise-of-the-apes-stars-in-ashley-greene-film.html"

 

Al


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Group: pota Message: 59501 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/27/2010
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On 7/27/2010 12:26 PM, Alex Ruiz wrote:
"Dreamscape" was no different than "Nightmare on Elm Street."
Die in your dream, die in real life.
Dreamscape was released a few months before Nightmare on Elm Street, for whatever that's worth.....

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 59502 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/27/2010
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well...they do! many times the crew members are on location away from home  for months at a time...working 15 hour days....if for no other reason, a credit is for them to feel appreciated and maybe for families to see it...


From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 12:20:55 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 



I don't sit through the credits -- I'm out the door as soon as the narrative ends -- unless I want to see where it was shot or something.
 
But, I don't see how everyone behind the scenes of a movie deserves a screen credit at the end.  Their involvement often isn't that essential to the final product, and in the long run, "Who cares?"
 
I produce a product every work day, but my name isn't on it, and I don't want it to be.  Who cares?
 
-- Rory



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Group: pota Message: 59503 From: mcreek25@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
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For me a good commentary on the movie sound track is very helpful.  Sometimes I don't understand the view point of the director or what the story is about and a good commentary can enhance my understanding of the picture.  It can explain the intent of the movie and point out subtle elements that I simply may have missed.  It can also tie together disjointed elements that are not obvious in the movie that I may have missed.
 
Outtakes can be fun if they are from a comedy particularly.  Watching the actor goof up a funny line can be amusing.  Other deleted scenes sometimes fill in gaps in the movie that were cut out to make the movie flow better or just make it shorter and I like seeing those. 
 
Watching how they did the movie is interesting, I know generally, how the blue screen / green screen stuff works and seeing it on a particular movie is sometimes interesting.  Watching them make the models of the monster / spacecraft / mountain can be fascinating too.
 
I collect toy solders and it is nice to have the original blueprints / sets / and such to work from when making models for display.
 
I think most of those who destroy everything after the movie is over are simply ego maniacs who don't want their work tampered with or scrutinized too closely.
 
 
Mike "Bunkermeister" Creek
bunkermeister.blogspot.com
sgtsays.blogspot.com
hystericalrightwing.blogspot.com
 
In a message dated 7/27/2010 8:55:04 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
If you have a really good restaurant meal, is it enhanced by going back into the kitchen and asking the chef to show you exactly how it was made?
You know, Spielberg doesn't do commentary tracks for this very reason.  Kubrick used to destroy all his sets, blueprints and costumes after filming was completed, and all outtakes and unused footage later on.  Gee, I wonder why?
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Group: pota Message: 59504 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/27/2010
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  I can only speak for myself but I have no problem knowing how it's done but getting into the fantasy of a movie. If not, I couldn't enjoy POTA. I knew how the makeup was done a long time ago. And that there's really no statue in front of Heston.
 It's called suspension of disbelief and I have plenty of it, especially when reading Haristas' comments.  : )
 

Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:47 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 


Well, that's true. Those scenes in the new "King Kong" where they land on the island...shot in a parking lot. Even Peter Jackson was surprised how well they could create ocean with CG, and that was after he had done "Lord of the Rings". But there is a shot of dolphins swimming next to the ship. I was sure those were CG but they are real. They did shoot some actual footage of the boat in the ocean, second unit stuff.
And how does knowing all that enhance watching the movie again?  Does it help you "get into" the fantasy of the thing -- which is why the movie exists in the first place?  NO, IT DOES NOT!
 
And that's my point, lost as it is on Veetus.
 
-- Rory

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  Well, sometimes people ask for a recipe from a restaurant.
  Spielberg doesn't believe in commentary tracks but he has plenty of behind the scenes stuff.
   Kubrick was a control freak.

Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 8:42 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 


Movies aren't "magic", they're the work of a lot of people. You can choose to watch the "behind the scenes" after seeing the movie or not watch them at all. But I think they're a good thing for those who are interested.
The people who make the movies sure spend a lot of money trying to tell you how magical they are -- even when they're not.  How many movies do we see promoted as if they were the Second Coming?
 
If you have a really good restaurant meal, is it enhanced by going back into the kitchen and asking the chef to show you exactly how it was made?
You know, Spielberg doesn't do commentary tracks for this very reason.  Kubrick used to destroy all his sets, blueprints and costumes after filming was completed, and all outtakes and unused footage later on.  Gee, I wonder why?
 
-- Rory

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  What does he mean he's been "really passionate" about it? Is he saying he's an "Ape" fan?

From: Alex Ruiz
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:58 AM
Subject: [pota] Tom Felton on Caesar

 


Tom Felton, who plays Draco Malfoy in the Harry Potter films, says he has begun filming Rise of the Apes, a prequel to the popular Planet of the Apes sci-fi movies, and also finished shooting a movie with Twilight's Ashley Greene.

 

"I've just started shooting Caesar, Rise of the Apes, which is the Planet of the Apes prequel, which I'm mega, mega excited about," Felton said. "It's a project that I've been really passionate about for a long time."

 

Article Link: http://www.onthered carpet.com/ 2010/07/tom- felton-begins- shooting- rise-of-the- apes-stars- in-ashley- greene-film..html"

 

Al


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Group: pota Message: 59509 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/27/2010
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I'd have to agree with Rory.
Who gives a damn if Jerry Goldsmith did a score on a movie? Hit a couple of trash can covers together and they call it music.
BLAH! Music Composers deserve not credit!
 
Right, Rory? :o)
 
Al  




How can you misunderstand me so well, Al?
 
I'm not against screen credits -- in fact, I love main credit sequences, especially for older movies -- but the modern END credit roll, that can sometimes go on for over ten minutes, is just simply ridiculous.
 
-- Rory
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Either that or he's an animal lover or has known about the script and knew he was on board long before us.
 
Al

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 4:17:44 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Tom Felton on Caesar

 

  What does he mean he's been "really passionate" about it? Is he saying he's an "Ape" fan?
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well...they do! many times the crew members are on location away from home  for months at a time...working 15 hour days....if for no other reason, a credit is for them to feel appreciated and maybe for families to see it...
 
I don't get it.  Do they all have fragile egos or something?  They need a screen credit at the end of a movie to show others they worked on it?  Sounds like the people who work in the film industry are all dipshits!
 
I wonder how all the "little people" who worked behind the scenes on THE WIZARD OF OZ, or even, dare I say, PLANET OF THE APES ('68) felt when they got no acknowledgement at the end of the movie.  Jerry Maren and Felix Silla must have been devastated!
No, this explanation is just silly.
 
The reason why we have so ponderous and annoying a credit roll at the end of movies these days is because the studio system is gone, and these behind-the-scenes people aren't steadily employed at a studio anymore, they're all independent contractors, so they demand the screen credit to help get them another job.  That's all.... and that's why I ignore end credits -- I'm not going to be hiring these people.

-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59512 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
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Yeah, but at the sametime if they had a BTS on Jerry Goldsmith it would be worth it right?
Well, the same goes for those who are into greenscreen BTS or whatever the BTS offers.
 
Bottom line: To each his or her own.
Life is beautiful. :o)
 
Al

From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 27, 2010 6:44:14 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 


How can you misunderstand me so well, Al?
 
I'm not against screen credits -- in fact, I love main credit sequences, especially for older movies -- but the modern END credit roll, that can sometimes go on for over ten minutes, is just simply ridiculous.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59513 From: Kevin Date: 7/27/2010
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On the subject of credits - ask any of the 'stars' of the '60's who
attend conventions and charge for autographs - many of these guys turned
to the Convention circuit so that they could make money and a living and
these were the ones WHO did get their name up in credits...the tech's
and grips deserve to get their name up on the screen - they work hard
and deserve the credit - just the same as anyone in any other job.

kj
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Group: pota Message: 59514 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Tom Felton is Dodge
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Tom Felton reveals that his character's name is Dodge.
Holy moly! CHUD is batting a thousand.
 
 
Al

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Group: pota Message: 59515 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 7/27/2010
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I cant believe that persons here are greiving about to many credits at the END of a film. I use to think that it went to far also after about 1977 but the unions got their ways and I say good. You dont want to see them, then dont, and that goes for the extras. I rarely watch the behind the scenes but its good that they are available to those interested. You get an awful lot for the dollar on DVD and Blu-ray and none of the viewing is mandatory(except for some trailers at the start of some discs, even that can be circumvented). What alot of belly aching , is their anything else to talk about. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
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> Yeah, but at the sametime if they had a BTS on Jerry Goldsmith it would be worth
> it right?
> Well, the same goes for those who are into greenscreen BTS or whatever the BTS
> offers.
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> Bottom line: To each his or her own.
> Life is beautiful. :o)
>
> Al
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Group: pota Message: 59516 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Tom Felton is Dodge
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 I'm not hot about this idea of naming characters after other characters. It would be hard for me to accept this with POTA68 continuity, if that is their goal. If this is a separate series then fine. I don't have a problem with Caesar as a name, though. If that makes sense. "Dodge" just seems random and silly. Though I guess it works with a lead actress named Pinto.

From: Alex Ruiz
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:20 PM
Subject: [pota] Tom Felton is Dodge

 

Tom Felton reveals that his character's name is Dodge.
Holy moly! CHUD is batting a thousand.
 
 
Al

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Group: pota Message: 59517 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Tom Felton on "Access Hollywood"
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 Here's a video interview with Tom Felton, the newly christened "Dodge" in "Rise of the Apes". Will Caesar stuff him?
 
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Group: pota Message: 59518 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: heston photos [6 Attachments]
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Man. with an IR light that big who needs a nightscope?
- 1 Gen!
 
In a message dated 7/27/2010 5:41:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, billburge48@... writes:
 

dear group, found some more great photos of heston. enjoy from william burge

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Group: pota Message: 59519 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Tom Felton on "Access Hollywood"
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I will read credits if I like a film.
Also to see if they threw in some extras.
 
 
In a message dated 7/28/2010 7:02:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
 

 Here's a video interview with Tom Felton, the newly christened "Dodge" in "Rise of the Apes". Will Caesar stuff him?
 

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Group: pota Message: 59520 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Aaron Sims
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Aaron Sims latest flick, "Clash of the Titans" just went on sale yesterday on Bluray and DVD.

If anyone wants to see what kind of magic this guy can create with a low budget film, check out "Clash of the Titans!"

This film had a budget of $125 million and looked like it cost more than $200 + to make.

Overall the film did well with an estimated $500 million dollar payday at the boxoffice.

 

I'm glad Aaron is doing "Rise of the Apes!"

Picked up my "Clash of the Titans" bluray yesterday.

 

Go Aaron! Go Aaron! Go Aaron! :o)

 

Al

 

 


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Group: pota Message: 59521 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/28/2010
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I cant believe that persons here are greiving about to many credits at the END of a film. I use to think that it went to far also after about 1977 but the unions got their ways and I say good. You dont want to see them, then dont, and that goes for the extras. I rarely watch the behind the scenes but its good that they are available to those interested. You get an awful lot for the dollar on DVD and Blu-ray and none of the viewing is mandatory(except for some trailers at the start of some discs, even that can be circumvented). What alot of belly aching , is their anything else to talk about. John M.

I think belly aching is why the internet was invented.
 
Anyway, I think most DVD featurettes and commentary tracks are worthless and, yes, they're easy to ignore, but think about what they add to the costs of the DVD.  In fact, the studios are cutting down on all this extras stuff because of the current slump in sales.  A lot of Blu-rays I rent of current films are surprisingly "bare bones."
 
As far as the long end credit rolls.... they too are easily ignorable, but my objection is that they make movie running times a big lie.  When you're going to a movie now and you see the running time -- just subtract ten minutes -- it's closer to the truth.
 
I'm sure that whatever becomes the official running time for RISE OF THE APES, will actually be at least 12 minutes less.  With all the CG work this movie is going to need, you're gonna have a very long end credits.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 59522 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Tom Felton is Dodge
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I'm not hot about this idea of naming characters after other characters. It would be hard for me to accept this with POTA68 continuity, if that is their goal. If this is a separate series then fine. I don't have a problem with Caesar as a name, though. If that makes sense. "Dodge" just seems random and silly. Though I guess it works with a lead actress named Pinto.
Maybe they're just naming characters after cars? 



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Group: pota Message: 59523 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/28/2010
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Yeah, but at the sametime if they had a BTS on Jerry Goldsmith it would be worth it right?
Well, the same goes for those who are into greenscreen BTS or whatever the BTS offers.
 
Bottom line: To each his or her own.
Life is beautiful. :o)
 
Al




What's a BTS?
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Group: pota Message: 59524 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: credits
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  The credits are worth it if I like the music they're playing. Single most important thing for credits.

Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Tom Felton on "Access Hollywood"

 

 
 
I will read credits if I like a film.
Also to see if they threw in some extras.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 59525 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/28/2010
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> A lot of
> Blu-rays I rent of current films are surprisingly "bare bones."

If you get them from Netflix, many of those are discs created
specifically for rental. A lot of the Netflix discs have no extras.
The studios started doing this to encourage people to buy the
DVDs/Blu-rays.

> I'm sure that whatever becomes the official running time for RISE OF
> THE APES, will actually be at least 12 minutes less. With all the CG
> work this movie is going to need, you're gonna have a very long end
> credits.

Tim Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND had credits that went on forever.
Apparently anyone who ever clicked a mouse got a CG credit.

Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 59526 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Andy in Motion Capture Suit
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Rise of the Apes On Set: James, Freida and Andy in a motion capture suit.

 

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2010/07/28/james-franco-freida-pinto-rise-of-the-apes/

 

Al 

 


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Group: pota Message: 59527 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/28/2010
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"Behind the Scenes" (DVD/Bluray Extra)
 
Al

From: "Haristas@..." <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 11:04:22 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes" green screen setup

 




What's a BTS?

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Group: pota Message: 59528 From: Jeff K. Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Andy in Motion Capture Suit
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  Thanks, Al. You spoiled the "magic".   >: (
  Maybe that's why they're naming the characters after cars (like "Dodge"). Because he's a "driven" scientist.
 
  P.S.: Damn she's hot!

From: Alex Ruiz
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 11:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Andy in Motion Capture Suit

 

Rise of the Apes On Set: James, Freida and Andy in a motion capture suit.

 

http://justjared. buzznet.com/ 2010/07/28/ james-franco- freida-pinto- rise-of-the- apes/

 

Al 

 


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Group: pota Message: 59529 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/28/2010
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Even more photos. Much better!
 
 
Al

From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 5:13:04 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Andy in Motion Capture Suit

 

  Thanks, Al. You spoiled the "magic".   >: (
  Maybe that's why they're naming the characters after cars (like "Dodge"). Because he's a "driven" scientist.
 
  P.S.: Damn she's hot!
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Group: pota Message: 59531 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: Re: Andy in Motion Capture Suit
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It's all very convincing. I'm just afraid once we're
down that CG Apes road there's no turning back.
Not to take anything away from Andy. He's the
best!  It's just not what it should be. If any movie
should be the last makeup hold out it's POTA!
 
 
In a message dated 7/28/2010 2:52:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pota1968@... writes:
Rise of the Apes On Set: James, Freida and Andy in a motion capture suit.
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Group: pota Message: 59532 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: pota SOUNDTRACK heard earlier in Dark Shadows episodes
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Dark Shadows Ep 177 at 17 minutes - music sounds similar to a song from Planet Of The Apes 1968 Soundtrack
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Group: pota Message: 59533 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: Re: Andy in Motion Capture Suit
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Well, it's certainly off to a good start. I like the way Andy is walking like an ape.
Much like the way of Roddy and the classic apes.
Now it's up to Aaron Sims to bring us that (Chambers) ape classic look back.
With both these elements back, it would be enjoyable for me to sit through this movie for a couple of hours.
 
It's like that old saying, if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
One of the things that made the ape classics so apealing was the look of the apes.
And not that freak show that Burton and Baker came up with. Just my opinion.
 
Al

From: "LordTZer0@..." <LordTZer0@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 4:56:39 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Andy in Motion Capture Suit

 

 
It's all very convincing. I'm just afraid once we're
down that CG Apes road there's no turning back.
Not to take anything away from Andy. He's the
best!  It's just not what it should be. If any movie
should be the last makeup hold out it's POTA!
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 59534 From: James Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

4 new results for "planet of the apes"

 

Type of the sequel: Planet of the apes | Movie title stills ...
By Christian Annyas
Movie titles from the 'Planet of the apes' film series (1968-1973), starring Charlton Heston, Roddy McDowall, James Whitmore, Ricardo Montalban.
Movie title stills collection: updates - http://www.annyas.com/screenshots/updates/

Tom Felton spoke at the Comic Con with abc 7 about “Deathly ...
By estrella89san
Tom Felton, who plays Draco Malfoy in the Harry Potter films, says he has begun filming Rise of the Apes, a prequel to the popular Planet of the Apes sci-fi movies, and also finished shooting a movie with Twilight's Ashley Greene. ...
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James Franco and Freida Pinto on the set of Planet of the Apes ...
By B
Here's the thing about James Franco and Freida Pinto: I really love them (even though as of a month ago James was looking like a drug addict) but not in a Planet of the Apes prequel. I would like to know who told them this was a great ...
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Television Obscurities » Blog Archive » Was There an Unaired ...
By RGJ
McDowall, who appeared in four of the five Planet of the Apes movies, played a chimpanzee named Galen who befriended the humans. The episode that some sources, including the 2001 DVD release, say was unaired is called “The Liberator” ...
Television Obscurities - http://www.tvobscurities.com/

 

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