The script I read (which they seem to be following, more or less) takes place in a span of 7 - 10 years. Hopefully they won't specify years and date it.
Judging from the trailers, Franco doesn't change much (except in his opinion about apes).


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:52 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Prequel comic review






"Rise" wouldn't fit in the BOOM! continuity because they suggest a circular timeline. The "Rise" director plans for "Rise" to be part of Classic "Apes" continuity but that would only fit in an alternate timeline (since it takes place in the 2010's, not the 70's/90's of "Escape"/"Conquest"). I guess "Rise" would lead to the original and "Beneath" before "Escape" would reboot it.



One thing I don't yet understand about RISE is that it would take twenty years for Caesar to grow up. Does RISE cover such a time span, and if so, does the James Franco character mature?

-- Rory

Fox has been releasing some "research" footage (without any mention of "Rise") to the internet. The latest is about chimps using machetes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-0vbvy2ip4

There's almost nothing worse in California than the closing of a major freeway, even if only for a couple days. Such is the situation with the 405, dubbed "Car-mageddon". In their continuing search for unique ways to promote "Rise of the POTA", Fox let the apes take over the 405:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rise-planet-apes-simians-stage-211449

And here's an article that mentions the promotion:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/07/pleas-for-carmageddon-parties-bike-rides-on-405-rejected-by-lapd.html"

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Easy there Tyler Woods. 

Some of us don't think of

these movies as High Camp!

Well, not the first one anyway.

"Yes I remember being that ten-year-old girl watching Planet of the Apes for the first time and being part fascinated and part frightened. It will be interesting to see what changes the new show will bring. I loved the makeup and the clothing it was cheesy and fun. I hope the new one doesn't make it so realistic that it loses its campyness."

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I went yesterday. Agreed, the print was fine, but the screen too small. I hate to say it, but the blu-ray is better. However, it is fun seeing it with a crowd.

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Fox has been releasing some "research" footage (without any mention of "Rise") to the internet. The latest is about chimps using machetes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-0vbvy2ip4

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So far the music on the many trailers and documentaries are still not Patrick Doyles cues. Im very curious on how he will approach his musical stylings and I hope its not heroic John Williams interchangable rubbish. A Marco Beltrami or Christopher Young approach would of been great along with a few other composers IMHO. Take care, John M.

I think BOOM! are doing a stunning job with Apes.Issue #3 of the regular Apes comic would be a delight even if it wasn't Apes.The art is excellent but, for me, it's the script that stands out--tight, twisty and really gripping.This is, in my opinion, the best Apes comic since Marvel.I'm finding that I'm excitedly looking forward to each new issue.If you haven't tried it, give it a look---it's a very pleasant surprise.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> "Rise" wouldn't fit in the BOOM! continuity because they suggest a circular timeline. The "Rise" director plans for "Rise" to be part of Classic "Apes" continuity but that would only fit in an alternate timeline (since it takes place in the 2010's, not the 70's/90's of "Escape"/"Conquest"). I guess "Rise" would lead to the original and "Beneath" before "Escape" would reboot it.
>
>
>
> One thing I don't yet understand about RISE is that it would take twenty years for Caesar to grow up. Does RISE cover such a time span, and if so, does the James Franco character mature?
>
> -- Rory
>

I can recall,when Cameron's Apes movie wasa being discussed and Stone's Apes movie etc,etc, there was talk of genetically enhanced Apes and I was appalled.I was always very comfortable with Apes just evoloving quickly to Conquest levels and couldn't care about the tight timescale.Now,after Burton's 'gene spliced, state of the art monkey' and,maybe, two decades of news about genetic experiments, I find the genetic experiment route for Apes movies far less jarring, somehow.My original antipathy was, I think, based on the fact that the Conquest Apes were their own creatures, not created by Man.But now,I can go with it.Even though I will always prefer the Conquest version! John, Scrolls.

What he said.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> I think BOOM! are doing a stunning job with Apes.Issue #3 of the regular Apes comic would be a delight even if it wasn't Apes.The art is excellent but, for me, it's the script that stands out--tight, twisty and really gripping.This is, in my opinion, the best Apes comic since Marvel.I'm finding that I'm excitedly looking forward to each new issue.If you haven't tried it, give it a look---it's a very pleasant surprise.John, Scrolls.
>

Some folks at USC are working on a way to use Twitter to predict box office. The graph in the article shows both positive and negative references to each movie. And it seems to work. Both "Harry Potter" and "Transformers" had a lot of activity and that interest is born out in the box office ("Harry" is breaking records and "Transformers" is already at $ 700 million worldwide, so $ 1 billion seems guaranteed). But it probably doesn't take a genius to figure that.
"Cowboys and Aliens" is at the other end of the spectrum but that's always been considered the long shot. "Rise" is somewhere in the "X-Men"/"Green Lantern"/"Super 8" area. "Captain America" is doing very well on this chart and opens this week.
I don't think the marketing of "Rise" has been all it could be, but we'll see if they rally over the next 3 weeks as the other blockbusters fall away.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2011/07/usc-launches-a-new-twitter-box-office-predictor.html"

Here's a banner for "Rise". Check out the groovy King Kong vibe.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=41906

A new app called "Apes Will Rise" asks "Are You Smarter Than a Chimp?" (would make a good TV show or a presidential debate). You can also access official "Apes" youtube videos on the go and other goodies.

http://www.movieviral.com/2011/07/15/a-new-app-asks-are-you-smarter-than-an-ape/

I'm calling it. Ape Season begins this Thursday (July 21st) at Comic-Con when there's a panel on POTA comics plus whatever Fox is planning for "Rise" (sounds like a panel; Freida Pinto is scheduled, among others). The "Rise" soundtrack hits July 26th. The Changing of the Guard is July 27th when POTA2001 turns 10 and steps down. The Ape marathon in Philly is July 31st. And then August 5th looks like a good day to go to the movies.
Ape season. Say goodbye to your family, give up your worldly possessions and Go Ape. No excuses!

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I saw TV spots on several cable channels this weeks in different shows including The Daily Show.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Heavy promotion is just getting started. I watched the season premiere of "Rescue Me" on FX Wednesday night and there were two spots for RISE. OK, so that's just FX and that's a Fox owned channel, but probably RISE spots will soon be shown on other Fox channels and then in the week or two before August 5th they'll be on the network shows. Remember, it's expensive to promote a movie and if you want to maximize profit, you don't spend too much on promotion.
>
> -- Rory
>

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There was also a spot on "Big Brother" on CBS last Thursday.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> I saw TV spots on several cable channels this weeks in different shows
> including The Daily Show.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Heavy promotion is just getting started. I watched the season premiere
> of "Rescue Me" on FX Wednesday night and there were two spots for RISE.
> OK, so that's just FX and that's a Fox owned channel, but probably RISE
> spots will soon be shown on other Fox channels and then in the week or
> two before August 5th they'll be on the network shows. Remember, it's
> expensive to promote a movie and if you want to maximize profit, you
> don't spend too much on promotion.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>

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Amazon now says the soundtrack is coming out August 9th, though Varese still says July 26th.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:51 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Apes Music on Trailers, still no Doyle?



So far the music on the many trailers and documentaries are still not Patrick Doyles cues. Im very curious on how he will approach his musical stylings and I hope its not heroic John Williams interchangable rubbish. A Marco Beltrami or Christopher Young approach would of been great along with a few other composers IMHO. Take care, John M.

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Rise of the Planet of the Apes International Poster MovieWeb 20th Century Fox has unveiled an international poster for Rise of the Planet of the Apes, which hits theaters nationwide on August 5, and UK theaters on August 11. Take a look at this British poster below, which features a closer look at the lead ape ... See all stories on this topic »

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Will Rise of the Planet of the Apes Win Andy Serkis an Oscar? MovieWeb The good news is that Rise of the Planet of the Apes leaps over this vast canyon of sullen, black-hearted creepiness to give us an electric group of computer generated characters; some more alive than the humans we've seen at the Cineplex this summer. ... See all stories on this topic »

RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES Motion Capture Technology Collider.com by Rob Vaux Posted:July 11th, 2011 at 7:11 pm Primatologists, professors and filmmakers gathered at CalTech in Pasadena this past Thursday to discuss 20 th Century Fox's new film Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Apes director Rupert Wyatt headlined a ... See all stories on this topic » Collider.com

New Poster: Face of the Rise of the Planet of the Apes HeyUGuys.co.uk New poster time for Rupert Wyatt's Rise of the Planet of the Apes and it's all about Caesar as this new image puts the Andy Serkis/Weta creation front and centre. They've done a great job with the trailers and teasing TV spots for this film and while ... See all stories on this topic » HeyUGuys.co.uk

 

Issue #49 of the excellent comics mag BackIssue has a wonderful 14 page illustrated article on Apes comics.It's ,in part, an adaptation of some of the chapter from Comics Gone Ape!, but there's a LOT of new material, including colour cover art and plenty of stuff I've never seen before.It's a delight and highly recommended.Details at www.twomorrows.com. John,Scrolls.

Is there any word at all on a novelisation for Rise? The novels, for me, are a massive part of the Apes experience and I really, really, hope there's a novel for RISE.John, Scrolls.

No, Aldo, no!


From: johnroche49
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:50 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] RISE NOVEL???



Is there any word at all on a novelisation for Rise? The novels, for me, are a massive part of the Apes experience and I really, really, hope there's a novel for RISE.John, Scrolls.

Here's a TV spot for "Rise" with a few new shots we've seen but not in this quality, including from the scene where Caesar hears how much money "Harry Potter" made this weekend and tries to "borrow" money from Tom Felton (not willing to take no for an answer).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLL-F7Qeh1k

You can read it if you google "Rise Apes" and look up the article under news.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 8:22 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Wall St. Journal talks "Rise" motion capture



One can't read that article with out subscribing. The Wall Street Journal, that's one of Rupert's properties. Looks like his world is turning upside down these days. Rise of the Planet of the Apes indeed!






-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>; PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 1:45 am
Subject: [pota] Wall St. Journal talks "Rise" motion capture



The Wall St. Journal talks about the "Rise" of motion capture cameras on location and the question of using the process on smaller budget films.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303661904576452210317361544.html"

According to Neil Moxham, the August issue of "Empire" quotes "Rise" director Rupert Wyatt thinkin' 'bout the Icarus: "We had to ask ourselves, do we want to, for example, mention Icarus, because does that therefore mean we're referencing a film that actually we're saying doesn't exist? In the original POTA the Icarus mission happened in 1972, and we're saying it happened between 2010 and 2016. But yeah, we're definitely using that as a backdrop".

Of course there's also the question of calling it the Icarus, a fan creation, and in Fox's own blu-ray is what called, what, the Liberty? I think it's best to just consider this it's own thing and the Icarus a nice little nod. Details matter, unless they get inventive about it like the new "Star Trek" movie did.

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Finally got the clip to work and it really does seem like a great film. It needs the full attention of the moviegoer with all the slight emotional ticks and the references. An average person might not give a hoot or understand the mythos of the Apes saga and just think of this film as an action film-God forbid-. I still wish it was R rated but I like how they are doing it so far, if Fox cares what I think.
That web site is a tough one to download, atleast on my XP. Take care and lets all hope for the best. This film deserves it...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a more accessible version of the clip, expands on what's already been seen in the trailer so it's not really a spoiler. With intro by Andy Serkis.
>
> http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00042188.html"
>

http://news.yahoo.com/boom-fox-bring-apes-comic-prelude-online-063317489.html"

Blending the line between the silver screen and the comics pages,
publisher BOOM! Studios is publishing a prelude to the upcoming
prequel to "Planet of the Apes" to give would-be viewers a leg up on
the film's premise.

The publisher, in conjunction with 20th Century Fox, said Wednesday
that it will publish an online-only 10-page prelude that lays the
groundwork for the story in "Rise of the Planet of the Apes," with
weekly installments through Aug. 3, just two days before the film
starring James Franco is released.

[... More at the link ...]

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I was with JAmes at Zigfield back in 08.. This print looked  just as good as the 08 film.... But the screen was a lot smaller...

 

NYC DAVE.

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I scanned the article and uploaded it to the group's Files section: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/WSJ071811.jpg

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> One can't read that article with out subscribing. The Wall Street Journal, that's one of Rupert's properties. Looks like his world is turning upside down these days. Rise of the Planet of the Apes indeed!
>
>

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Isn't that like saying that RISE will the the best POTA movie since Burton's ;-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> This is, in my opinion, the best Apes comic since Marvel.

 

Here's the Lithgow clip even slightly easier to watch via Yahoo! plus some yahoos commenting on it.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50437

There's been no in"faux" about them but I think some of the early ones are real. The later ones (AK, machete) maybe CG apes?


From: Tim
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 11:19 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] new faux documentary footage




Has there been proof that these are 'faux'? They look pretty real to me and saw one of them in the PBS special 'Ape Genius' on NOVA...
is it a trained chimp with the AK47 ?...wouldn't that go against what the filmakers avoided by not exploiting ape 'actors' ?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 14, 2011, at 5:56 PM, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:



Fox has been releasing some "research" footage (without any mention of "Rise") to the internet. The latest is about chimps using machetes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-0vbvy2ip4

Thought this was very well done.


http://youtu.be/a-EOWBN89iw

now THIS is BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:51 PM, briankg2008_smile <briankg2008_smile@...> wrote:

Thought this was very well done.

http://youtu.be/a-EOWBN89iw

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "briankg2008_smile" <briankg2008_smile@...> wrote:
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> Thought this was very well done.
>
>
> http://youtu.be/a-EOWBN89iw
>

Thats old news. They wanted to do this to John Glenn on his last mission some years ago. As he came out of his ship Apes would greet him.
Whats all that religious ##@# at the end about Jesus and such. Lets not turn this site into a soap box for certain know-it-alls. We have enough fantasy on this site. Take care, John M. -- In pota@yahoogroups.com, chimel23@... wrote:

>
> http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/07/19/funny-facebook-fails-pranks-on-astronauts/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Failbooking+%28FailBooking%29
> I had to pass this on LOL
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Not really.Some folk really like the Malibu comics.Rewvolution by MR Comics was excellent.And, ironically, the Dark Horse comics written by Ian Edginton and Dan Abnett were wonderful too.Apes has been well served by its comics, in my opinion,although I do agree that parts of the Malibu run were dreadful! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Isn't that like saying that RISE will the the best POTA movie since
> Burton's ;-)
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@> wrote:
> >
> > This is, in my opinion, the best Apes comic since Marvel.
>

I'm sure I'm being boring in saying this again,but every new bit of RISE I see just keeps ramping up my enthusiasm for this film.My God this looks good.Do we know if any of the music is Doyle, yet? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's another clip introduced by Andy Serkis where Caesar rallies the troops.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyQsBDM2tzk
>

This is not a trailer so what do you make of the kitchen/car scene beating. At the end the neighbor gets a worse beating with more blood and more fangs and it flows better. I dearly hope the American version is cut this way so we will be surprised. The Spanish on is on youtube as planeta a dos Macacos,,,, you will find it. Im getting alittle P.O.w

I got cut off. Search Youtube and see the differences. I hope we are not going to get a watered down version ala 1972...Take care, John M.

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The Spanish/Potuguese version with the extra violence and a few little more seconds of looks comes in at 4:13 as the American comes in at 4:08. Serkis' talking is exactly the same timing..curious,John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/> YouTube
>
>
> apeswillrise
> <http://www.youtube.com/user/apeswillrise?feature=uploademail_ch> just
> uploaded a video:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTf4zomGZo&feature=uploademail>
>
> Kitchen Table/Neighbor Fight
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTf4zomGZo&feature=uploademail>
>
> Andy Serkis introduces a 4-minute clip where Caesar comes to the aid of his
> human friend in 'RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES.' More
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTf4zomGZo&feature=uploademail>
>
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> C 2011 YouTube, LLC
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>I think the first word of the title is meant to be "Rise". There are only two "the's" on the banner. Rise of THE Planet of THE Apes.

And from what I've seen, I'm looking forward to this one, maybe it will erase the 2001 debacle from my memory forever.

Mike

>
>
>
>
>
> From the banner and other posters it looks like the title is actually "THE Rise of the Planet of the Apes." That's a lot of "The's" for one movie.
>
> So, what's the general attitude here as we're about three weeks away from the opening? Are you excited about seeing this movie, still wary it may suck, or you're neither here nor there about it? Even if you're only a lurker here, please chime in to this unofficial poll.
>
> -- Rory
>

Mixture of "it may suck" and "neither here nor there about it"... I'm not
excited about it though.



In a message dated 7/20/2011 12:53:25 PM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:

> So, what's the general attitude here as we're about three weeks away from
> the opening? Are you still wary it may suck, or you're neither here nor
> there about it?

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Thanks- for understanding where Im coming from..Take Care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Eric Payton <ursuszaiuscaesar@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with John about the religious commentary. This really isn't the place
> for it....unless it is a quote from the Lawgiver. :)
>
>
not equal un-human. Respect the rights of ALL humans, born and
> >unborn alike.
> >
>

Where's the Portuguese version?


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:14 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: apeswillrise just uploaded a video



The Spanish/Potuguese version with the extra violence and a few little more seconds of looks comes in at 4:13 as the American comes in at 4:08. Serkis' talking is exactly the same timing..curious,John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> FYI
>
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/> YouTube
>
>
> apeswillrise
> <http://www.youtube.com/user/apeswillrise?feature=uploademail_ch> just
> uploaded a video:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTf4zomGZo&feature=uploademail>
>
> Kitchen Table/Neighbor Fight
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTf4zomGZo&feature=uploademail>
>
> Andy Serkis introduces a 4-minute clip where Caesar comes to the aid of his
> human friend in 'RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES.' More
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTf4zomGZo&feature=uploademail>
>
>
>
> C 2011 YouTube, LLC
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From the banner and other posters it looks like the title is actually "THE Rise of the Planet of the Apes."  That's a lot of "The's" for one movie.

 

So, what's the general attitude here as we're about three weeks away from the opening?  Are you excited about seeing this movie, still wary it may suck, or you're neither here nor there about it?  Even if you're only a lurker here, please chime in to this unofficial poll.

 

-- Rory

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

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> So, what's the general attitude here as we're about three weeks away from the opening? Are you excited about seeing this movie, still wary it may suck, or you're neither here nor there about it? Even if you're only a lurker here, please chime in to this unofficial poll.
>
> -- Rory
>

Initially, I was sceptical about it, and the first trailer tended to confirm my scepticism that it'd be some action orientated film with little thought. Then after the second trailer (or the one that had more empathy, story and characterisation), I felt a lot better about it, and the more I heard about it, the better I felt. However, that interview with James Franco in Playboy that was linked to here a week or so ago got me a little disconcerted, because he seemed to indicate that despite initially being something more thoughtful, he was seeing something more action orientated after the reshoots. Then I reminded myself that he himself hasn't seen the final product, as well as Jeff K giving some assurances that what he saw looked good (I think it was Jeff K), so maybe I'm worried over nothing, or little at all. So, after all that, I'm interested, with some hope that it could be good, but with some slight trepidation. Let's just say I have mixed feelings, veering on the positive.


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Here's the latest clip, unfortunately in MSN mediocrity. This clip got a good response from the audience at Cal Tech.

http://movies.msn.com/movies/movie-trailers/#/video/2d9f1b0c-e49c-4843-aab6-240e1461027e/

I liked "King Kong" (2005) a lot, so it's not the CGI that's sort of
putting me off on this movie... I don't like the way it looks (visually) on the
commercials I seen... I thought it all blended together well in "KK", but with
"RISE", it looks too video-gamey to me...


In a message dated 7/20/2011 5:11:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

> I've enjoyed movies like "Lord of the Rings", the new "King Kong" and
> "District 9" so I'm ready to roll.

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Go to Youtube and type.... ( planeta do macacos:a origem- "Luta com o vizinko" clip). Look at the time , it should be 4:13, as opposed to thye American 4:08..Have fun, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Where's the Portuguese version?
>
>
> From: JohnM conquest-idor
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:14 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: FW: apeswillrise just uploaded a video
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>
>
> The Spanish/Potuguese version with the extra violence and a few little more seconds of looks comes in at 4:13 as the American comes in at 4:08. Serkis' talking is exactly the same timing..curious,John M.
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
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> > FYI
> >
> >
> > <http://www.youtube.com/> YouTube
> >
> >
> > apeswillrise
> > <http://www.youtube.com/user/apeswillrise?feature=uploademail_ch> just
> > uploaded a video:
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> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTf4zomGZo&feature=uploademail>
> >
> > Kitchen Table/Neighbor Fight
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTf4zomGZo&feature=uploademail>
> >
> > Andy Serkis introduces a 4-minute clip where Caesar comes to the aid of his
> > human friend in 'RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES.' More
> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMTf4zomGZo&feature=uploademail>
> >
> >
> >
> > C 2011 YouTube, LLC
> > 901 Cherry Ave, San Bruno, CA 94066
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If doesnt work try PLANETA DOS MACACOS: A ORIGEM- "Luta com o Vizinho" Clip.......Try again Jeff

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Where's the Portuguese version?
>
>
>

"KK" is more "video-game" looking in your opinion, just like the scenes
I've seen of "RISE" looking gamy is my opinion... I think you may be being
blinded by your overwhelming enthusiasm for this film... It may or may not end
up being decent, but I'm not going to be falling all over the film because of
the APES name or the people involved in it... Either they will do a good
job or not but who they are doesn't automatically mean they'll hit it out of
the park...

"KK" had mainly all real actors, except Kong but even he was a real actor
if you want to get picky about it... The biggest "fake" thing in "KK '05"
was Jack Black trying to act... James Franco is shaping up to be "ROTPOTA's"
version of Jack Black (someone who has no business being there but somehow
lucked into the job)...


In a message dated 7/21/2011 12:46:25 AM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

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>
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> Are you kidding? KK is more like a video game. "Rise" has (mostly) real
> locations and actors. More like "District 9".
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>

Here's a slightly longer version of the "Rise" Lithgow clip which shows where Caesar got that blood on his face. But even this is cut, so what are we in for? Thanks to Conquest-idor for the heads up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvt5hAM1XBU

I'm really enjoying the BOOM! prequel story (second chapter now online).It really sets a good tone.I'd love, one day, to get to Comic Con---if I win the lottery, I'll be there! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Comic Con kicks off today (Thursday) with a POTA comics discussion from 10 - 11 AM with the BOOM! folks as well as Tom Mason from the Adventure days. BOOM! will have a Comic Con exclusive photo cover of Caesar from "Rise". Plus the "Conspiracy of the POTA" novel will make it's debut at the Archaia booth.
> Fox will have their "secret" presentation from 3:15 - 4:30 PM (assumed to be a "Rise" panel plus something on Ridley Scott's "Alien" semi-prequel "Prometheus" ).
> Just sayin'.
>

At long last, the official apeswillrise.com site is looking like a web site. John, Scrolls.

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Jeff, thanks for the credit, but Im always looking out for that kind of stuff since the original Conquest never felt right back when I was 12 years old in '72. Jeff is their anyway that Fox can get a responce from one of us(YOU) about what this is about and why is PG-13 a rating that was created with some of the bloodiest films at the time, and all it did was create a rating that in my view is no different than PG. Their is no PG-13, its all PG.
If this sudo-documentary is an indication of whats to come I feal like NOT going to see it because you know damn well on the dvd/bluray they will offer an uncut/Directors cut with it all intact. This was the reason I wanted an R rating. The difference between a PG-13 and R is like a G rating and an R. Who are these soccer moms and average sixpack drinking movie ignoramos's that make these decisions.
Leave the Directors version alone. The films always suffer and most of the public can sense it. Anyway Jeff I needed to vent again because this can ruin the film. Youngers want some blood and they are the biggest market, us 40 and over group were raised on the Apes films and they were anything but bloodless. All the strong violence they talk about without a smidgeon of blood rings untrue and it can kill a film. Look at the difference in the action scenes in the Lord of the Rings trilogy extended versions(nevermind the narrative improvements).
Take care Jeff, send an e-mail..HAHA, Your friend John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a slightly longer version of the "Rise" Lithgow clip which shows where Caesar got that blood on his face. But even this is cut, so what are we in for? Thanks to Conquest-idor for the heads up.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvt5hAM1XBU
>

No, I'm enthusiastic because of what I've SEEN (and linked here) and what those involved have said. Let's see... story, legit drama, committed performances (especially Andy Serkis but I haven't seen anything Franco's done in this that worries me), ambition. Sounds like the making of a good movie to me. What makes a good movie to you?
And what makes "video game looking" to you? King Kong had mostly CG characters and CG backgrounds (shot in front of green screens, shooting the island in a parking lot, recreating '30's New York). Characters running along cliffs, underneath dinosaurs. I'm not knocking the movie, I liked it, movies are illusion, but if you're going to call something a "video game" it's that, not "Rise" shot on real sets (except when they can't like the bridge) with CG being able to interact with live actors for the first time ever. It's probably easier to accept CG in a fantasy environment where almost everything is CG than the relative realism they are going for with "Rise" (even "District 9" had the fantasy element of fictional aliens to fall back on instead of realistic apes). If you don't buy the apes, fine, but at the least I wouldn't call it a video game as one might "Avatar" with CG everything.


From: mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:03 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] The "The's" of RISE



"KK" is more "video-game" looking in your opinion, just like the scenes
I've seen of "RISE" looking gamy is my opinion... I think you may be being
blinded by your overwhelming enthusiasm for this film... It may or may not end
up being decent, but I'm not going to be falling all over the film because of
the APES name or the people involved in it... Either they will do a good
job or not but who they are doesn't automatically mean they'll hit it out of
the park...

"KK" had mainly all real actors, except Kong but even he was a real actor
if you want to get picky about it... The biggest "fake" thing in "KK '05"
was Jack Black trying to act... James Franco is shaping up to be "ROTPOTA's"
version of Jack Black (someone who has no business being there but somehow
lucked into the job)...

In a message dated 7/21/2011 12:46:25 AM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

>
>
>
> Are you kidding? KK is more like a video game. "Rise" has (mostly) real
> locations and actors. More like "District 9".
>
>

To reference a recent movie, there might be blood. Obviously the marketing folks have their own needs. That's why there usually isn't anything graphic in trailers and they are "approved for all audiences". But showing what they showed in that Portuguese clip as well as showing apes being mowed down in one of the American trailers showed some courage on Fox's part in this day and age. Let's face it, they have to be comfortable that they'll make their money back, they spent a lot. People are reluctant to go to movies that look like "downers". Maybe it would be hard to sympathize with Caesar if he bit a guy's finger off.
The fact is they won't do an "R" movie over a certain budget. Under 18s are a big part of the audience that put their butts in seats and don't wait for the DVD. But I do like getting a director's cut on DVD. That's one of the great things of the DVD format. A director can shoot stuff that doesn't have a chance of being in the theatrical and it can be promoted on a DVD as a director's cut or a deleted scene. If only there were DVDs in the days of the original POTA.
But it's not just Fox. All the studios are like that. And let's be fair, it's based on what the audiences support. That's why it really was shocking to see that moment (the guy giving Caesar the finger) in such an expensive modern studio movie. And just MAYBE the film will follow through in theaters.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:57 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar, you bloody baastard



Jeff, thanks for the credit, but Im always looking out for that kind of stuff since the original Conquest never felt right back when I was 12 years old in '72. Jeff is their anyway that Fox can get a responce from one of us(YOU) about what this is about and why is PG-13 a rating that was created with some of the bloodiest films at the time, and all it did was create a rating that in my view is no different than PG. Their is no PG-13, its all PG.
If this sudo-documentary is an indication of whats to come I feal like NOT going to see it because you know damn well on the dvd/bluray they will offer an uncut/Directors cut with it all intact. This was the reason I wanted an R rating. The difference between a PG-13 and R is like a G rating and an R. Who are these soccer moms and average sixpack drinking movie ignoramos's that make these decisions.
Leave the Directors version alone. The films always suffer and most of the public can sense it. Anyway Jeff I needed to vent again because this can ruin the film. Youngers want some blood and they are the biggest market, us 40 and over group were raised on the Apes films and they were anything but bloodless. All the strong violence they talk about without a smidgeon of blood rings untrue and it can kill a film. Look at the difference in the action scenes in the Lord of the Rings trilogy extended versions(nevermind the narrative improvements).
Take care Jeff, send an e-mail..HAHA, Your friend John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a slightly longer version of the "Rise" Lithgow clip which shows where Caesar got that blood on his face. But even this is cut, so what are we in for? Thanks to Conquest-idor for the heads up.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvt5hAM1XBU
>