Weren't we staying away from the religion stuff in here? I'm confused now, because it's being discussed again.

Mel,who thinks "it" is the other way around

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> I'm with Dr. Zaius when it comes to the subject of mankind. I think we're at a tipping point in the history of animal life on this planet, and man is proving to be a scourge and his own worst enemy. The number one problem that mankind has... is mankind! Even with all the technology and wonderful scientific discoveries of the last couple centuries, mankind is on the road to self-destruction. Nothing is being done to check world population growth and that's what's slowly killing us.
>
>
>

Here's some official Fox interview bits with the cast (Franco, Pinto, Lithgow, Felton and Serkis), the director and the FX supervisor:

http://thetomfelton.com/2011/07/24/video-interviews-with-the-cast-of-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

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>
>
> *** I'm predicting mildly to moderately successful at best...
>
>
> I find your lack of faith disturbing.
>

I don't know, I think if you raise your expectations beyond what you really believe, you'll be disappointed. Maybe that's why I don't hate the Burton film despite its many flaws, as I didn't have such high expectations. I feel Rise will be moderately successful, which will be enough to allow for sequels. I don't think it'll be a spectacular success, though. Sure, my opinion is based on gut feeling, but then so is yours. The difference between us is that I hope I'm wrong. Still, I don't think it'll be a disaster or mediocre, but I won't let hope overtake me.


Graham

Touche, though it came up in a topic, not an auto response on an e-mail.
POTA does deal with religion. I've met some Christians who are POTA fans and at first blush it would seem like something they wouldn't like. The evolution aspect, satire on religion (including the bomb ceremony in "Beneath"). But some Christians dig it. I've heard it can be seen as a take on the Rapture a la the "Left Behind" movies (Ralph Winter, the producer of Burton's POTA, has produced "Left Behind" and other productions specifically for Christians). Or maybe it's just a fun movie. And then there's the Armando aspect.
So I'm just curious on your take. I guess it's on my mind because like I said I'm reading that book ("Divinity of Doubt" by Bugliosi).


From: knightangel314
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 1:33 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Caesar conquest speech re-enacted



Weren't we staying away from the religion stuff in here? I'm confused now, because it's being discussed again.

Mel,who thinks "it" is the other way around

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Your Da'Man Rory, John M. :)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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>
>
> I dunno. People seem pretty cynical about the CG apes and the idea of "monkeys" taking over.
>
>
> Are you talking about all the snarky, negative, wiseass comments left on sites like Aintitcool?
>
> Don't you know those are left by maladjusted young punks who've got absolutely nothing going on?
>
>
>
> Trust me, it's gonna be all that I say.
>
> -- Rory
>

In the clip the Gorilla knocks the cop off his horse -cool, picks him up -cool, throws him down -cool, then a look by Caesar when the (Gorilla) is about to pummel the cop and he changes course and just growls loudly at the man- NOT cool. This reminds me of on the set editing and getting a PG-13 rating and not scaring the kiddies. Thats the kind of stuff that bothers me and can marginalize how Apes could take over. Yelling(Gorilla growl) will not do it. Brute Force will...Take care, John M.

In a message dated 7/24/2011 4:38:48 PM Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:

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> >> *** I'm predicting mildly to moderately successful at best...
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>
> I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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Brain Wilson?

 

In a message dated 7/24/2011 10:11:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes:

If not for the music and technical leaps we take because of our wonderous Brain we are worthless,

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You must live near a coast. 

 

In a message dated 7/24/2011 1:04:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

Nothing is being done to check world population growth and that's what's slowly killing us.

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Yes, lets avoid religion, and politics,

and social commentary, or any of

the other themes in the movie

this group is dedicated to.

 

 

In a message dated 7/24/2011 4:38:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chimel23@... writes:

Weren't we staying away from the religion stuff in here? I'm confused now, because it's being discussed again.

Mel,who thinks "it" is the other way around

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At a bit of a tangent, I've been re-reading Eric's book in anticipation of RISE,just to get fully intellectualised for what is clearly a cerebral Apes movie.Eric draws a 'messiah' comparison with baby Milo, and there's also the Herod debate.The thought did hit me that it would be fun, maybe, to have an Escape Nativity Cut Out set for Christmas, with baby Milo adored by Zira and Cornelius, Armando as a kindly shepherd, Lewis and Stevie as Magi and Heloise as the pseudo barn animal, with a big tent back drop.Not looking to offend---it just seems a cute thought.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Touche, though it came up in a topic, not an auto response on an e-mail.
> POTA does deal with religion. I've met some Christians who are POTA fans and at first blush it would seem like something they wouldn't like. The evolution aspect, satire on religion (including the bomb ceremony in "Beneath"). But some Christians dig it. I've heard it can be seen as a take on the Rapture a la the "Left Behind" movies (Ralph Winter, the producer of Burton's POTA, has produced "Left Behind" and other productions specifically for Christians). Or maybe it's just a fun movie. And then there's the Armando aspect.
> So I'm just curious on your take. I guess it's on my mind because like I said I'm reading that book ("Divinity of Doubt" by Bugliosi).
>
>

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So you like the recut of Conquest 72 than the original cut then, I definiatly do not. It doesnt ring True!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Caesar has a conscience. That's why he'd be a good leader. That's good storytelling. And he doesn't just look at him, he says something.
> Their goal isn't to take over the world, their goal is to cross the bridge to safety. No time to waste pummeling people. Take him down and move on.
>
>
>

HAhA! Right on. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Yes, lets avoid religion, and politics,
> and social commentary, or any of
> the other themes in the movie
> this group is dedicated to.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/24/2011 4:38:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> chimel23@... writes:
>
> Weren't we staying away from the religion stuff in here? I'm confused now,
> because it's being discussed again.
>
> Mel,who thinks "it" is the other way around
>

Not everybody is a killer at heart. It's called character. Watch the end of the sizzle reel if you don't think Caesar can get down.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 4:08 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: (possible spoiler) Clip 5 ... Rise of the Planet of the Apes...



So you like the recut of Conquest 72 than the original cut then, I definiatly do not. It doesnt ring True!

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In nature everyone is a killer at heart. It depends on circumstance, starvation, insult, murder done on ones family or group and my favorite- its natural- natural to be a killer depending on just how far someone is pushed.
These animals were treated like hell and were probably murdered themselves in one way or another. Their pride, self esteem so on.. thought it is true that "Pride come'th before the fall".
I am a person that feels alot like you do but ive seen to much mayem done for its own sake and murder done for reasons that are OK by the perpretrater at the time of its action and weather you believe in God or Natures influence, BOTH have muredered for no reason other than for selfish gain and destruction for rebirth.
Not to get all setemental and give reasons that are grand, I had family killed in the camps in eatern Europe so arguments about how goodie goodie we can be are absurd. Human history is vile and violent and the Apes are simply going to "Ape" this condition because , even though their are great humanitarians, its nature and its easier to destroy than create. John M>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Not everybody is a killer at heart. It's called character. Watch the end of the sizzle reel if you don't think Caesar can get down.
>
>
> From: JohnM conquest-idor
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 4:08 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: (possible spoiler) Clip 5 ... Rise of the Planet of the Apes...
>
>
>
> So you like the recut of Conquest 72 than the original cut then, I definiatly do not. It doesnt ring True!
>

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People are still different (even though the apes aren't people, you know) and will react differently to situations. I guess under the right circumstances anyone can be reduced to their base nature. But some are more prone to violence than others and some don't have it in them until they are pushed to their limit. Even Himmler fainted watching the killings and probably couldn't kill someone if he wanted to.
In the case of Caesar in that clip, who grew up loved by humans I think he would still have that love in him somewhere that would stop him from unnecessary killing. Like I said (based on the script I read), their goal is to cross that bridge (using the Moses analogy, instead of the Red Sea they cross the Red Bridge) and disappear. The cop is down, move on.
We'll have to wait until the full movie to see if it matches Caesar's character (just as he stops short of killing the neighbor). As for the end of "Conquest", that's different, since it was intentionally watered down (and badly done). New Caesar stopping the killing creates sympathy and since he's the main character, that's just good storytelling. The sizzle reel shows he can do in those he feels deserve it.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:31 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: (possible spoiler) Clip 5 ... Rise of the Planet of the Apes...



In nature everyone is a killer at heart. It depends on circumstance, starvation, insult, murder done on ones family or group and my favorite- its natural- natural to be a killer depending on just how far someone is pushed.
These animals were treated like hell and were probably murdered themselves in one way or another. Their pride, self esteem so on.. thought it is true that "Pride come'th before the fall".
I am a person that feels alot like you do but ive seen to much mayem done for its own sake and murder done for reasons that are OK by the perpretrater at the time of its action and weather you believe in God or Natures influence, BOTH have muredered for no reason other than for selfish gain and destruction for rebirth.
Not to get all setemental and give reasons that are grand, I had family killed in the camps in eatern Europe so arguments about how goodie goodie we can be are absurd. Human history is vile and violent and the Apes are simply going to "Ape" this condition because , even though their are great humanitarians, its nature and its easier to destroy than create. John M>

Another thing to add about that scene is the filmmakers are obviously making a point. They could have had the gorilla knock the cop down and move on but they specifically had Caesar stop him from mayhem.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:31 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: (possible spoiler) Clip 5 ... Rise of the Planet of the Apes...



In nature everyone is a killer at heart. It depends on circumstance, starvation, insult, murder done on ones family or group and my favorite- its natural- natural to be a killer depending on just how far someone is pushed.
These animals were treated like hell and were probably murdered themselves in one way or another. Their pride, self esteem so on.. thought it is true that "Pride come'th before the fall".
I am a person that feels alot like you do but ive seen to much mayem done for its own sake and murder done for reasons that are OK by the perpretrater at the time of its action and weather you believe in God or Natures influence, BOTH have muredered for no reason other than for selfish gain and destruction for rebirth.
Not to get all setemental and give reasons that are grand, I had family killed in the camps in eatern Europe so arguments about how goodie goodie we can be are absurd. Human history is vile and violent and the Apes are simply going to "Ape" this condition because , even though their are great humanitarians, its nature and its easier to destroy than create. John M>

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Do you guys want to see photos? So very busy that I forgot to take many photos and it's a damned shame because the makeup was the best yet after years of trying. Wore the second sculpt of Zira appliance which corrected the faults of the first one.

If anyone reads "Boxoffice" magazine, there is an excellent article on 'Rise' with a great picture of Caesar on the front cover.

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5:30 p.m. - Film premiere; 20th Century Fox presents RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES. Celebrities expected: from the film, James Franco, Freida Pinto, Andy Serkis, John Lithgow, Tom Felton, director Rupert Wyatt and many others. 5:30 press call time, 6:30 arrivals. Grauman's Chinese Theatre, 6925 Hollywood Blvd., Hollywood. Contact: [domestic TV, print, radio] Natalie.Johnson@...>; [photo] Bill Mona <Bill.Mona@...>; [online] Carol Cundiff <Carol.Cundiff@...> THIS THURS at Chinese in Hollywood....

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I created a new folder entited SDCC 2011 and I will add photos there as I find them.

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

Please do!

From: jessica rotich

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:16 PM

To: POTA

Subject: [pota] Went to comicon

Do you guys want to see photos? So very busy that I forgot to take many photos and it's a damned shame because the makeup was the best yet after years of trying. Wore the second sculpt of Zira appliance which corrected the faults of the first one.

I'll be there -- I've been looking forward to this months.
Finally a chance to wear my ANSA hat without people thinking they've suddenly gone dyslexic!

Scott

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" <danfraga@...> wrote:
>
> Just a quick note to remind anyone who is in the area & might be interested: Exhumed Films in Philadelphia is screening all five of the original PLANET OF THE APES movies on Sunday, July 30. Admission is $20, doors open at 10am. The show will start promptly at 11am and will run until approximately 8:30 or 9pm.
>
> If you've never been to an Exhumed Films show, we try to make our screenings more of an "event" rather than just a showing of movies. In addition to the films, we'll also have some APES props and paraphernalia on display in the lobby, a local home made ice cream vendor who promises some "Ape-inspired" flavors, a table of rare cult, horror, & sci-fi DVDs for sale, prize giveaways, classic 35mm film trailers, and other surprises. Hopefully some POTA group members will be able to make it!
>
> You can find theater directions and purchase tickets from our website at www.exhumedfilms.com; a limited number of tickets will also be available at the door, but if you are coming from a distance and want to guarantee that you get in, purchasing advance tickets is your best bet.
>
> Thanks for reading, and I hope to see you at GO APE!
>
> Dan Fraga,
> Exhumed Films
>

Sherri Shepherd of "The View" went to a private screening and tweeted "Rise" is "Incredible!...Run don't walk" to see it.
Take that as you will. 25,000,644 reviews to go!

Here's that featurette I posted earlier in German, now in English. Thanks again, Al!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gN9Mh-D7SjI

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Someone found me on this video...I am at 10 seconds or so.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:16 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Do you guys want to see photos? So very busy that I forgot to take many photos and it's a damned shame because the makeup was the best yet after years of trying. Wore the second sculpt of Zira appliance which corrected the faults of the first one.

Scene from No Budget CG Fanfilm "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES"



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky21moFkmnQ

Wow. Sounds like a Viagra commercial! LOL!!

:)

On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:02 PM, <Haristas@...> wrote:

Sherri Shepherd of "The View" went to a private screening and tweeted "Rise" is "Incredible!...Run don't walk" to see it.
Take that as you will. 25,000,644 reviews to go!

I'm tellin' 'ya, RISE is gonna be HUGE!

But anyway.... who is Sherri Shepherd?

-- Rory

As hard as it is to believe, Tim Burton's POTA turns 10 today. With "Rise of the POTA" premiering tomorrow, it's time to bid adieu to the Burton Decade. Thus I have dug up these rarities for your perusal.

Here's video of an early version Burton was considering. He workshopped it on stage to try it out. Would've been an improvement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPyWalwxY0k

Here's Ebert and Roeper's POTA2001 review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HEyPFezJxk

And here's a rare foreign Pepsi commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPZov7b5zes

As in, these photos really belong in the Files section or Media Archives:


http://cgi.ebay.com/BENEATH-PLANET-APES-photo-JAMES-FRANCISCUS-/310330193178?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48411ef51a


http://cgi.ebay.com/PLANET-APES-Beneath-photo-23-CHARLTON-HESTON-/380191124703?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5885282cdf


http://cgi.ebay.com/Beneath-Planet-Apes-VINTAGE-Photo-/360290157802?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item53e2f784ea


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Well, that's great news.Lifted my mood a bit, after picking up September's SFX Mag this morning.I had expected an Apes cover but, ridiculously, they went with a Spider-Man cover for a movie that's a year away (and the trailer for which is awful!).Inside is a measly four page feature on RISE, again ridiculous for an alleged sci fi mag--Apes is one of the uber-franchises and should be the banner, cover, mega feature for every sci fi mag this month.Anyway....Franco is quoted as saying ''Now I assume the original Apes movie has kind of a cult appeal, but you look at the masks and say'I can't believe they're having serious philosphical conversations in those crazy masks!'''.What a disrespectful attitude towards one of the greatest movies ever made.I've defended Franco in the past but now can see what others have been wise to.I'm disappointed that Franco falls into the trap of trying to talk up his movie by dissing an earlier classic.Particularly when that classic is etched onto our DNA.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Sherri Shepherd of "The View" went to a private screening and tweeted "Rise" is "Incredible!...Run don't walk" to see it.
> Take that as you will. 25,000,644 reviews to go!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm tellin' 'ya, RISE is gonna be HUGE!
>
> But anyway.... who is Sherri Shepherd?
>
> -- Rory
>

BOOM!got 4 stars out of 5 in SFX's comics review section--and they don't hand out stars easily.Very favourable review, richly deserved.Reminds me to swing over to BOOM! for the next prequel chapter! John, Scrolls.

I'm getting happier by the minute.I've just read today's third chapter of the RISE Prequel and Verdon (sic) and Burke are back!!! This prequel is bloody excellent---very, very important to the overall movie saga.It's at www.apescomics.com.Verdon and Burke are back!!!!!! John, Scrolls.

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Great pics Jess! Thanks for sharing.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos/album/238954359/pic/list

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I created a new folder entited SDCC 2011 and I will add photos there as I
> find them.
>
> Jess.
>

That was cool.


From: RonHatter
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:42 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Scene from "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES"



Scene from No Budget CG Fanfilm "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky21moFkmnQ

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Can you dig it? Check out some of the Boulle covers.

http://apeswillrise.tumblr.com

Theaters are posting a running time of 130 minutes (2 hours, 10 minutes) for "Rise". Longest POTA movie ever.

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I was reading Starlog #233 from 1996 when I spotted an advert for 'THE SACRED SCROLLS' fanzine, c/o Collision Studio of America, at $8 per year.Anybody have these? I'd love to see them. John, Scrolls.

There are various way to livestream the red carpet for tonight's premiere (6:30 PM Pacific). Here's one of them (if the link works).

http://www.livestream.com/summerblockbusters?rsvptoeventid=406532&utm_source=social&utm_medium=short_link&utm_campaign=summerblockbusters

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:

>
> Oh, for the days when "The End" was enough.
>
> -- Rory
>

Planet of the Apes doesn't end: it goes on and on. Then when you think it's going to reach the end, it goes back to the beginning and starts again.


Graham

Watched the livestream. My wife Freida Pinto was there. Said her mom was a POTA fan, but I knew that because she told me in bed.
Lithgow has never seen POTA but used Heston's tennis court once.
The interviewer kept asking everyone about Franco, who is shooting "The Wizard of Oz" in Detroit until December (so he will NOT be on "General Hospital"; just thought you should know).
And even when there was nothing going on the "Rise" score was being played, so it was all good. As I write this they are settling in to see the movie. History in the making.

Looks like they're running it on a loop now.

http://www.livestream.com/summerblockbusters?utm_source=rsvp&utm_medium=email-reminder&utm_campaign=summerblockbusters

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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "RonHatter" <ronhatter@...> wrote:

>
> Scene from No Budget CG Fanfilm "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES"
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky21moFkmnQ

The folks at Brokensea Audio Productions should take a few hints from this fan film's approach as it did capture a compelling sense of faithful cinematic realism, especially with appropriate voice talent.

Only one week to go until RISE. To pass the time a new installment of THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is now online.

To read the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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I love the nod to the tv series---seems to be the week for remembering Virdon and Burke! I'll miss the Mendez Dynasty when it's done--it's been a tremendous read.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> Only one week to go until RISE. To pass the time a new installment of
> THE MENDEZ DYNASTY is now online.
> To read the new MENDEZ biography, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home
> page or use this link:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MD.htm> .
>
> Have a great weekend everyone!
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Internal Website
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm> - Original POTA
> One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
> much, much more.
> * <http://tinyurl.com/2uy7v7c> Marvel Archive
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm>
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm> - Online
> archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
> * Lessons from the Lawgiver
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/LFTL.htm> – Words
> of wisdom from the Greatest Ape of All. * Cornelius' Journal
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/CJ.htm> - The Memoirs
> of Dr. Cornelius. * Ape City Chronicles
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/ACC.htm> - The history
> of Ape City's first 75 years, written by Virgil. * The Illustrated
> Monkey Planet <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MPC.htm>
> - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel. *
> POTA Locations
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/POTAlocations.htm> -
> The places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheArtGallery.htm> -
> Works of POTA Art by our members. * The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics. * The Photos Section
> <http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos> - POTA pics
> contributed by members.
>

Thank You

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "shrstrategygames" <shrstrategygames@...> wrote:
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> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "RonHatter" <ronhatter@> wrote:
> >
> > Scene from No Budget CG Fanfilm "DESTINY OF THE PLANET OF THE APES"
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky21moFkmnQ
>
> The folks at Brokensea Audio Productions should take a few hints from this fan film's approach as it did capture a compelling sense of faithful cinematic realism, especially with appropriate voice talent.
>

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Show me The Rapture in the Bible.

That Rapture stuff cracks me up.

It was invented in the 1800s. And

it seems to come back every 15

to 20 years & new batch of suckers

sells everything they own and stands

on a hill waiting to fly up to heaven.

The look on their faces when they

don't must be priceless, but it's

not enough to buy their stuff back.

 

In a message dated 7/25/2011 10:57:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes:

or rapture in Rory's rant.

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Here's Andy Serkis with Devyn Dalton at last night's premiere. She played young Caesar, as well as Caesar's girlfriend Cornelia (I'll let Freud figure that one out):

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/rrt1RY5O1qW/Premiere+20th+Century+Fox+Rise+Planet+Apes/i0iToNPHdLZ/Devyn+Dalton

It's a madhouse! A madhouse!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1GhhaO7Cc8

Tom Felton tweeted his reaction to "Rise": "Couldn't of enjoyed ("Rise") any more, Andy Serkis was amazing! I loved every second".
If it sucked he'd tell us, right?

Absolutly correct. The latest in Man-Made history..Laughable...John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Show me The Rapture in the Bible.
> That Rapture stuff cracks me up.
> It was invented in the 1800s. And
> it seems to come back every 15
> to 20 years & new batch of suckers
> sells everything they own and stands
> on a hill waiting to fly up to heaven.
> The look on their faces when they
> don't must be priceless, but it's
> not enough to buy their stuff back.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/25/2011 10:57:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> ursuszaiuscaesar@... writes:
>
> or rapture in Rory's rant.
>

Says it's the "film of the year", and this from someone who found the original films "cheesy":

http://toseeornottosee.net/post/8215720047

Here's the "B" roll during shooting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrC5TisAUtE


And here's Access Hollywood's compilation of the premiere. Some good quotes from the cast:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/_video_1343832

Thanks Al!

The Australia area gets to "Rise" early (Aug. 4rth) so the movie has screened for some media there and First Showing has tried to round up some of the comments (mostly via Twitter). Sounds promising, so hopefully Fox will set up some screenings as soon as possible so the word gets out before the big weekend. So far the ear to the ground research suggests the main interest is with older males of the original Ape era. There's still a lot of selling to do with women and the younger set (modern movie selling breaks the audience into 4 "quadrants": young males, young females, older males, older females; you want to hit as many of those quadrants as possible).
With the success of WETA stuff like "Lord of the Rings" and "Avatar" this would seem to be a slam dunk but apparently not. It sounds like it has the emotional kind of story that sci-fi adverse women might like, and it's got the action and CG the youngins love, so get selling, Fox!

http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/early-buzz-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-beating-early-expectations/

This reviewer is less blown away but still recommends "Rise". So far it looks like the pluses are Franco, Lithgow, and of course Caesar. The villains are getting lower marks.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/07/29/first-review-rise-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/

Photons can't travel faster than light (until they do).

http://news.discovery.com/space/time-travel-impossible-photon-110724.html"

John Lithgow tweeted that "Rise" is "incredible...So damned real and scary. Some ending".

David Hewlitt ("Stargate: Atlantis"), who plays the neighbor who gives Caesar the finger, was also at the premiere even though he seemed to stay out of the limelight, tweeted: "The movie is absolutely fantastic! Even with me in it".

The two are at odds in the movie but they seem to agree about the movie itself.

Hey there, who else is meeting in Philly this weekend? Maybe we can have a Yahoo group photo or something? I can't wait! It will be too hot for me to dress in my Gov. Breck outfit, no turtle neck in the summer! Looking forward to it.