At Jan 6, 2015, 11:57:19 AM, Haristas@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:

Later we'll release "Apes 3". Later we'll do a second trilogy set 200 years hence. Later we'll do a trilogy that gets us to POTA68. We think we've got all the time in the world. How much time has the world got before we're all in old age homes?! Somebody has to begin to care!

Depends. Yes, Veetus, that's what you'll be wearing, Depends, when Fox announces the 25th APES movie set for the 70th Anniversary of PLANET in 2038.

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From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]
To: pota
Sent: Tue, Jan 6, 2015 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Apes 3" pushed back to 2017

Later we'll release "Apes 3". Later we'll do a second trilogy set 200 years hence. Later we'll do a trilogy that gets us to POTA68. We think we've got all the time in the world. How much time has the world got before we're all in old age homes?! Somebody has to begin to care!

From: Haristas@... [pota]

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 7:39 AM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes 3" pushed back to 2017

Not surprised by this news at all. I hope it means a better screenplay will result, so I expect the addition of another writer, and there's always the possibility that creative differences will arise and even Matt Reeves could drop out. More time just means more possibilities for more things to happen. We'll see. I hate to have to wait longer, but then all good things come to those that wait, don't they?

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From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>; PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Jan 6, 2015 3:00 am
Subject: [pota] "Apes 3" pushed back to 2017

It's been almost a year since Fox announced that "Apes 3" would be released in July 2016 but scratch that. Now it's 7/14/17. That means no 50th anniversary "Apes" movie in 2018. That means no "Apes" movie in the Year of the Monkey (2016). : (

The director has said it's going to be a very ambitious movie, but no reason has been given for the move. Fox's comic book movies "X-Men" and "Fantastic 4" still seem on track for sequels 2 years after their last ones but "Apes" is being given more time. Could it be script probs? Dunno.

Where does that leave "Apes" competish-wise? So far it looks sandwiched between the next "Pirates of the Caribbean" (July 7) and the next "Thor" (July 28).

http://deadline.com/2015/01/gambit-assassins-creed-planet-of-the-apes-release-dates-1201341760/

At Jan 6, 2015, 7:36:42 PM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:

Meanwhile you can dig Al's twitter for Star Wars 7, featuring Andy Serkis and directed by Matt Reeves' compadre J. J. Abrams (Abrams decided on Andy after a very early screening of "Dawn").

You won't be able to escape it, so you might as well hear it from Al, the Picasso of the PC.

https://twitter.com/TheForceAwaken

From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota]

Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:58 PM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [pota] Re: "Apes 3" pushed back to 2017

I admit I didn't see that one coming but in the end if it calls for doing it right, then power to them. In the meantime, my apes Twitter account will be on a long vacation. I'd say about til mid 2016. Now going into hyper sleep :) Al Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone At Jan 6, 2015, 11:57:19 AM, Haristas@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote: Later we'll release "Apes 3". Later we'll do a second trilogy set 200 years hence. Later we'll do a trilogy that gets us to POTA68. We think we've got all the time in the world. How much time has the world got before we're all in old age homes?! Somebody has to begin to care! Depends. Yes, Veetus, that's what you'll be wearing, Depends, when Fox announces the 25th APES movie set for the 70th Anniversary of PLANET in 2038. -----Original Message----- From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] To: pota Sent: Tue, Jan 6, 2015 11:49 am Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Apes 3" pushed back to 2017 Later we'll release "Apes 3". Later we'll do a second trilogy set 200 years hence. Later we'll do a trilogy that gets us to POTA68. We think we've got all the time in the world. How much time has the world got before we're all in old age homes?! Somebody has to begin to care! From: Haristas@... [pota] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 7:39 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [pota] Re: "Apes 3" pushed back to 2017 Not surprised by this news at all. I hope it means a better screenplay will result, so I expect the addition of another writer, and there's always the possibility that creative differences will arise and even Matt Reeves could drop out. More time just means more possibilities for more things to happen. We'll see. I hate to have to wait longer, but then all good things come to those that wait, don't they? -----Original Message----- From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota pota@yahoogroups.com>; PotaDG PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jan 6, 2015 3:00 am Subject: [pota] "Apes 3" pushed back to 2017 It's been almost a year since Fox announced that "Apes 3" would be released in July 2016 but scratch that. Now it's 7/14/17. That means no 50th anniversary "Apes" movie in 2018. That means no "Apes" movie in the Year of the Monkey (2016). : ( The director has said it's going to be a very ambitious movie, but no reason has been given for the move. Fox's comic book movies "X-Men" and "Fantastic 4" still seem on track for sequels 2 years after their last ones but "Apes" is being given more time. Could it be script probs? Dunno. Where does that leave "Apes" competish-wise? So far it looks sandwiched between the next "Pirates of the Caribbean" (July 7) and the next "Thor" (July 28). http://deadline.com/2015/01/gambit-assassins-creed-planet-of-the-apes-release-dates-1201341760/

At Jan 11, 2015, 1:05:23 AM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:

I've been a little disappointed with Dawn's place in the critics' Top 10 lists for 2014 that I've seen. "Dawn" seems to have been pushed aside in peoples' memories and I don't have much hope when the Oscar noms are announced on Thursday (I think FX is in the bag and there's a good chance POTA will win this time). "Dawn" seems to have lost out in the memory banks to other sci-fi flicks like "Edge of Tomorrow", "Interstellar", "Snowpiercer" and especially "Guardians of the Galaxy" (the debate about whether "Rise" is better still seems in play). But my boys the Schmoes picked up the slack. Right on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOxfJ7Zmm8E

At Jan 11, 2015, 12:17:24 PM, Haristas@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:

But overall with the general public, until apes are in full gear and fully talking will apes have a really lasting impression as it was with the classics.

This I totally agree with. It's a little disappointing to hear a little of what Rupert Wyatt planned for the sequel, with the apes going into the cities and taking over the human habitats and assuming their lives in strange and bizarre ways, like trying to get cars to work again, because that goes right back to the kind of satire Boulle was trying. Reeves and Mark Bomback chose to take a slightly different approach and, for me, it comes across as kind of delaying what the concept can fully do, so yeah, I completely agree, Alex, the new franchise isn't yet in full gear. They're barely out of first. The next one is going to have to be very good indeed, or I fear the franchise may stall.

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From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota]
To: pota
Sent: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 11:00 am
Subject: RE: [pota] Schmoes pick "Dawn" as their 2014 #1

Personaly I love 'em both. Both Rise and Dawn. So far Fox is batting a thousand with Apes. But overall with the general public, until apes are in full gear and fully talking will apes have a really lasting impression as it was with the classics. So I feel the best is yet to come. And hopefully sooner than later. Last thing I wanna see is Apes go in the same direction as Night at the Museum. Where is was just more of the same and in the end people just grew tired of it. Al At Jan 11, 2015, 1:05:23 AM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote: I've been a little disappointed with Dawn's place in the critics' Top 10 lists for 2014 that I've seen. "Dawn" seems to have been pushed aside in peoples' memories and I don't have much hope when the Oscar noms are announced on Thursday (I think FX is in the bag and there's a good chance POTA will win this time). "Dawn" seems to have lost out in the memory banks to other sci-fi flicks like "Edge of Tomorrow", "Interstellar", "Snowpiercer" and especially "Guardians of the Galaxy" (the debate about whether "Rise" is better still seems in play). But my boys the Schmoes picked up the slack. Right on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOxfJ7Zmm8E

At Jan 13, 2015, 2:17:12 PM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:

One thing "Dawn of the POTA" has going for it this awards season is the FX, and the the Visual Effects Society has bestowed many nominations on it for their awards: Best FX for a FX-driven movie, Best Character (2, for Caesar and Koba), Best Virtual Cinematography and Best Compositing. Also, Matt Reeves' good buddy and partner through much of his career J. J. Abrams will receive the Visionary Award. J. J. will also announce the Oscar nominations Thursday so maybe that will be good luck for "Dawn" (in case you haven't heard, J. J. directed the new "Star Wars" movie so he's all that in Hollywood right now).

http://deadline.com/2015/01/ves-awards-nominations-visual-effects-society-movies-2015-full-list-1201348607/

At Jan 14, 2015, 10:54:30 AM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:

I don't think there's a chance Andy (or Toby) will get a nomination but I was thinking along the lines of one of those wild surprise Best Picture nominations sci-fi movies sometimes get (like "District 9"). If that happened it would probably go to "Interstellar" (which I wasn't crazy about but it has prestige and isn't a sequel). If that happens it will probably win Best FX, since FX has always gone to a Best Pic nominee (if there is one) since I think the '70's. The last 6 Best FX winners have all been Best Pic nominees. "Rise" lost out to "Hugo".

From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota]

Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:40 AM

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [pota] mucho "Dawn" noms from Visual FX Society

There's always that chance that the Oscars will throw a curve ball as they do every once and a while with their nominations. Anything is possible. And Andy does deserve it. Al Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone At Jan 13, 2015, 2:17:12 PM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote: One thing "Dawn of the POTA" has going for it this awards season is the FX, and the the Visual Effects Society has bestowed many nominations on it for their awards: Best FX for a FX-driven movie, Best Character (2, for Caesar and Koba), Best Virtual Cinematography and Best Compositing. Also, Matt Reeves' good buddy and partner through much of his career J. J. Abrams will receive the Visionary Award. J. J. will also announce the Oscar nominations Thursday so maybe that will be good luck for "Dawn" (in case you haven't heard, J. J. directed the new "Star Wars" movie so he's all that in Hollywood right now). http://deadline.com/2015/01/ves-awards-nominations-visual-effects-society-movies-2015-full-list-1201348607/

At Jan 18, 2015, 12:30:05 AM, George Taylor georgetaylor68@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:

Dawn made another $40 million in DVD / Blu Ray sales...

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Dawn-of-the-Planet-of-the-Apes#tab=video-sales

How does that compare to other hits? Well, here's the 2014 DVD list:

http://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/dvd-sales/2014

And here's the list for Blu Ray:

http://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/bluray-sales/2014

Happy 2015, from Houston...