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Group: pota Message: 75662 From: mlccougar Date: 12/3/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out
Group: pota Message: 75663 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/3/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out
Group: pota Message: 75664 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 12/3/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 75665 From: James Date: 12/4/2016
Subject: FW: Google Alert - planet apes
Group: pota Message: 75666 From: haristas Date: 12/5/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out
Group: pota Message: 75667 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/5/2016
Subject: waiting for "War" is hell!
Group: pota Message: 75668 From: Dario Date: 12/6/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out
Group: pota Message: 75669 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/8/2016
Subject: Lincoln Center goes to "War"
Group: pota Message: 75670 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/8/2016
Subject: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75671 From: haristas Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75672 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Apes trailer
Group: pota Message: 75673 From: Luke R Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75674 From: haristas Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75675 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75676 From: Dario Sciola Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75677 From: haristas Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75678 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75679 From: mlccougar Date: 12/10/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75680 From: James Date: 12/10/2016
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75681 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/10/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75682 From: James Date: 12/11/2016
Subject: FW: Google Alert - planet apes
Group: pota Message: 75683 From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/11/2016
Subject: War Trailer
Group: pota Message: 75684 From: totellthetruth42 Date: 12/12/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
Group: pota Message: 75685 From: haristas Date: 12/12/2016
Subject: Re: War Trailer
Group: pota Message: 75686 From: Stanley, Mark Date: 12/12/2016
Subject: Re: War Trailer
Group: pota Message: 75687 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/12/2016
Subject: Richard D. Zanuck was born on this day in 1934, Wednesday, 13 Decemb
Group: pota Message: 75688 From: zasco1957@aol.com Date: 12/13/2016
Subject: The Hasslein Institute
Group: pota Message: 75689 From: jamesa1102 Date: 12/14/2016
Subject: Re: The Hasslein Institute
Group: pota Message: 75690 From: James Date: 12/14/2016
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75691 From: James Date: 12/19/2016
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75692 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/22/2016
Subject: (Spoiler) old POTA character goes to "War"?
Group: pota Message: 75693 From: James Date: 12/23/2016
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75694 From: haristas Date: 12/24/2016
Subject: Re: (Spoiler) old POTA character goes to "War"?
Group: pota Message: 75695 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/24/2016
Subject: Re: (Spoiler) old POTA character goes to "War"?
Group: pota Message: 75696 From: mlccougar Date: 12/25/2016
Subject: Re: (Spoiler) old POTA character goes to "War"?
Group: pota Message: 75697 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 12/26/2016
Subject: Re: (Spoiler) old POTA character goes to "War"?
Group: pota Message: 75698 From: James Date: 12/28/2016
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75699 From: haristas Date: 12/28/2016
Subject: First Glimpse of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 75700 From: jamesa1102 Date: 12/29/2016
Subject: Re: First Glimpse of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 75701 From: mikem3978 Date: 12/29/2016
Subject: Re: First Glimpse of the Planet of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 75702 From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/30/2016
Subject: War Teaser Poster
Group: pota Message: 75703 From: john roche Date: 1/3/2017
Subject: Re: War Teaser Poster
Group: pota Message: 75704 From: mlccougar Date: 1/3/2017
Subject: POTA Omnibus book coming out soon...
Group: pota Message: 75705 From: Dario Sciola Date: 1/3/2017
Subject: Re: POTA Omnibus book coming out soon...
Group: pota Message: 75706 From: mlccougar Date: 1/4/2017
Subject: Re: POTA Omnibus book coming out soon...
Group: pota Message: 75707 From: James Date: 1/6/2017
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75708 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/6/2017
Subject: (SPOILER) "War" - - the story so far
Group: pota Message: 75709 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/12/2017
Subject: (SPOILER) "War" story, Pt. 2
Group: pota Message: 75710 From: James Date: 1/16/2017
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75711 From: James Date: 1/23/2017
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75712 From: haristas Date: 1/26/2017
Subject: Matt Reeves talks War
Group: pota Message: 75713 From: mlccougar Date: 1/28/2017
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes: Tales From The Forbidden Zone
Group: pota Message: 75714 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/29/2017
Subject: New file uploaded to pota
Group: pota Message: 75715 From: James Date: 1/29/2017
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75716 From: jamesa1102 Date: 1/30/2017
Subject: Hasslein's Dad a Nazi
Group: pota Message: 75717 From: smugster2000 Date: 2/6/2017
Subject: Simian Scrolls
Group: pota Message: 75718 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/6/2017
Subject: Re: Simian Scrolls
Group: pota Message: 75719 From: haristas Date: 2/6/2017
Subject: Re: Simian Scrolls
Group: pota Message: 75720 From: mlccougar Date: 2/6/2017
Subject: Re: Simian Scrolls
Group: pota Message: 75721 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/6/2017
Subject: Re: Simian Scrolls
Group: pota Message: 75722 From: James Date: 2/7/2017
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75723 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2017
Subject: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75724 From: haristas Date: 2/8/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75725 From: Saulo Adami Date: 2/8/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75726 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/9/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75727 From: haristas Date: 2/9/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75728 From: James Date: 2/10/2017
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75729 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/10/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75730 From: haristas Date: 2/10/2017
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 75731 From: haristas Date: 2/10/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75732 From: Dario Date: 2/10/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75733 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/10/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75734 From: haristas Date: 2/11/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75735 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/18/2017
Subject: new POTA figures
Group: pota Message: 75736 From: john_harley63 Date: 2/18/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75737 From: CPKaye Date: 2/18/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75738 From: James Date: 2/19/2017
Subject: FW: Google Alert - planet apes
Group: pota Message: 75739 From: haristas Date: 2/19/2017
Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
Group: pota Message: 75740 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/19/2017
Subject: Ghost of Toy Fair Past
Group: pota Message: 75741 From: haristas Date: 2/20/2017
Subject: Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past
Group: pota Message: 75742 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/20/2017
Subject: Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past
Group: pota Message: 75743 From: haristas Date: 2/20/2017
Subject: Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past [
Group: pota Message: 75744 From: Dario Sciola Date: 2/20/2017
Subject: Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 75745 From: James Date: 2/22/2017
Subject: FW: Google Alert - planet apes
Group: pota Message: 75746 From: haristas Date: 2/22/2017
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - planet apes
Group: pota Message: 75747 From: Zach Scott Date: 2/22/2017
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - planet apes
Group: pota Message: 75748 From: haristas Date: 2/23/2017
Subject: Planet in Edinburgh
Group: pota Message: 75749 From: mlccougar Date: 2/23/2017
Subject: More on upcoming APES figures
Group: pota Message: 75750 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/23/2017
Subject: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
Group: pota Message: 75751 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/24/2017
Subject: Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
Group: pota Message: 75752 From: haristas Date: 2/24/2017
Subject: Re: More on upcoming APES figures
Group: pota Message: 75753 From: haristas Date: 2/24/2017
Subject: Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
Group: pota Message: 75754 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/25/2017
Subject: Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
Group: pota Message: 75755 From: haristas Date: 2/25/2017
Subject: Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
Group: pota Message: 75756 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/25/2017
Subject: Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
Group: pota Message: 75757 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/26/2017
Subject: Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
Group: pota Message: 75758 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/26/2017
Subject: Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
Group: pota Message: 75759 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 3/1/2017
Subject: APE MARATHON
Group: pota Message: 75760 From: haristas Date: 3/1/2017
Subject: Re: APE MARATHON
Group: pota Message: 75761 From: Tim Date: 3/1/2017
Subject: Re: APE MARATHON



Group: pota Message: 75662 From: mlccougar Date: 12/3/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out
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In a message dated 12/1/2016 6:33:49 PM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

http://13thdimension.com/exclusive-first-look-planet-of-the-apes-tales-from-the-forbidden-zone/



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Group: pota Message: 75663 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/3/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out
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I doubt it. I've never seen Rich Handley's books at Barnes & Noble before. Maybe at comic book shops.

 

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From: mlccougar@... [pota]
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 7:35 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] New POTA anthology coming out

 

 

So, will this book be available at places like Barnes and Noble?




In a message dated 12/1/2016 6:33:49 PM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

http://13thdimension.com/exclusive-first-look-planet-of-the-apes-tales-from-the-forbidden-zone/

 

 

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Group: pota Message: 75664 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 12/3/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out [1 Attachment]
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The anthology is being published by Titan Books, a major publisher. Same one who did the Dawn movie novelization and Firestorm prequel novel. It should be available at Barnes & Nobel. 

Greg P. 

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On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

  I doubt it. I've never seen Rich Handley's books at Barnes & Noble before. Maybe at comic book shops.

 

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From: mlccougar@... [pota]
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 7:35 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] New POTA anthology coming out

 

 

So, will this book be available at places like Barnes and Noble?




In a message dated 12/1/2016 6:33:49 PM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

http://13thdimension.com/exclusive-first-look-planet-of-the-apes-tales-from-the-forbidden-zone/

 

 

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Group: pota Message: 75665 From: James Date: 12/4/2016
Subject: FW: Google Alert - planet apes
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Google

"planet of the apes"

Daily update December 4, 2016

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February marks the debut of Planet of the Apes /Green Lantern, a joint effort between BOOM! Studios and DC Comics that brings the heroes of the ...

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Harvard professor analyzes the evolutionary theory behind 'Planet of the Apes'

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Group: pota Message: 75666 From: haristas Date: 12/5/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out
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The cover is interesting.  The top photo looks to me to be McDowall during the TV series, but Dr. Zaius and the gorilla (cloned four times) is from the cave scene in PLANET.


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From: Greg Plonowski urko3085@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Dec 3, 2016 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] New POTA anthology coming out

 
The anthology is being published by Titan Books, a major publisher. Same one who did the Dawn movie novelization and Firestorm prequel novel. It should be available at Barnes & Nobel. 

Greg P. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
  I doubt it. I've never seen Rich Handley's books at Barnes & Noble before. Maybe at comic book shops.
 
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From: mlccougar@... [pota]
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 7:35 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] New POTA anthology coming out
 
 
So, will this book be available at places like Barnes and Noble?




In a message dated 12/1/2016 6:33:49 PM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 75667 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/5/2016
Subject: waiting for "War" is hell!
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The teaser trailer for "War" looks to have been classified (runs a minute and a half) so it's release could be imminent.

What'd ya say, Dec. 11 for the "Walking Dead" winter finale before running with "Rogue One"? Everyone get your Woody Harrelson pullover masks ready!

 

heroichollywood.com/war-planet-apes-trailer-classified

 

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Group: pota Message: 75668 From: Dario Date: 12/6/2016
Subject: Re: New POTA anthology coming out
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It's already listed on Amazon:

Some creators that are already well versed with PotA, too. Aside from Rich there is Ty Templeton and Drew Gaska.

Can't wait.

Dario


On Dec 3, 2016, at 2:13 PM, "Greg Plonowski urko3085@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

The anthology is being published by Titan Books, a major publisher. Same one who did the Dawn movie novelization and Firestorm prequel novel. It should be available at Barnes & Nobel. 

Greg P. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:14 AM, Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

  I doubt it. I've never seen Rich Handley's books at Barnes & Noble before. Maybe at comic book shops.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: mlccougar@... [pota]
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2016 7:35 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] New POTA anthology coming out

 

 

So, will this book be available at places like Barnes and Noble?




In a message dated 12/1/2016 6:33:49 PM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

http://13thdimension.com/exclusive-first-look-planet-of-the-apes-tales-from-the-forbidden-zone/

 

 

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Group: pota Message: 75669 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/8/2016
Subject: Lincoln Center goes to "War"
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Fox just presented footage from some of it's 2017 wares at Lincoln Center, including "War 4 the POTA". It's apparently the same stuff shown at NY Comic-Con (the teaser trailer and an unfinished scene). Joblo.com sez : "I think everyone will be happy. Looks bigger and better than ever". And Daily Dead added: "Even unfinished, the footage is absolutely riveting".

There's been a deluge of teasers released for the big 2017 movies ("Spiderman", probably POTA's biggest competitor in July, hits tonight on Jimmy Kimmel) so it remains to be seen when the "War" teaser will put it's foot in the door. But I reckon soon.

 

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Group: pota Message: 75670 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/8/2016
Subject: POTA teaser hits Friday
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Or so director Matt Reeves has hinted. With websites chiming in that their set reports will also hit tomorrow, it sounds like a good day to go Ape.

 

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Group: pota Message: 75671 From: haristas Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
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OK, so I've seen it.  Too bad it's not coming out now because it looks like a great winter movie, perfect for watching at Christmas time while popping corn in the fireplace.  There's not enough of the movie shown for me, so the trailer still seems more like a teaser trailer.  I guess from what's shown we're going to get much war action, but I hope the movie is more than just an action picture.  Despite the winter setting, also looks like it's still planet of the naked apes.  When are they going to put clothes on these creatures?!!

So, there's the first trailer, and as I'm sure Jeffery is already wondering, when will we get another, more revealing trailer?  "Lawgiver, who knows... ?"





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From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 8, 2016 7:42 pm
Subject: [pota] POTA teaser hits Friday

 
 
  Or so director Matt Reeves has hinted. With websites chiming in that their set reports will also hit tomorrow, it sounds like a good day to go Ape.
 
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Group: pota Message: 75672 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Apes trailer
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Hello! Is this on? The "War 4 the POTA" trailer is here. Good thing this isn't an Apes fan place.

 

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Group: pota Message: 75673 From: Luke R Date: 12/9/2016
Subject: Re: POTA teaser hits Friday
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OMG...go to facebook now !

https://www.facebook.com/ApesMovies/

The trailer is there.



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On Fri, 9/12/16, Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [pota] POTA teaser hits Friday
To: "lawford42@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com>, "Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG]" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, 9 December, 2016, 11:24












Or so director Matt Reeves
has hinted. With websites chiming in that their set reports
will also hit tomorrow, it sounds like a good day to go
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Group: pota Message: 75674 From: haristas Date: 12/9/2016
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What's building for me after seeing this a couple times now is how absurd that animals that evolved in tropical setting seem to be doing so fine in the winter setting of this movie.  Do the filmmakers think apes are like bears and grow winter coats?!

Anyway, I hope there's more to this one than just gun fights and explosions.  There bloody well better be or this franchise might as well be dead.  And put some clothes on those poor creatures!





-----Original Message-----
From: Luke R lukeinoz@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 9, 2016 11:18 am
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA teaser hits Friday

 
OMG...go to facebook now !

https://www.facebook.com/ApesMovies/

The trailer is there.

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On Fri, 9/12/16, Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [pota] POTA teaser hits Friday
To: "lawford42@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com>, "Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG]" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, 9 December, 2016, 11:24


 









   Or so director Matt Reeves
has hinted. With websites chiming in that their set reports
will also hit tomorrow, it sounds like a good day to go
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If it's any consolation, the blu-ray will probably hit around Christmas; a few months shy of POTA 's 50th anniversary, bitch!

If you're worried it will be all action, check out what the filmmakers have said.

I get the feeling the apes are thrust into the winter setting. They don't know what winter is. That might be what creates a desire in them 4 clothes.

Next trailer: don't hold your breath. But I'm satisfied. The movie itself will be here before you know it.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Haristas@... [pota]
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 8:07 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA teaser hits Friday

 

 

OK, so I've seen it.  Too bad it's not coming out now because it looks like a great winter movie, perfect for watching at Christmas time while popping corn in the fireplace.  There's not enough of the movie shown for me, so the trailer still seems more like a teaser trailer.  I guess from what's shown we're going to get much war action, but I hope the movie is more than just an action picture.  Despite the winter setting, also looks like it's still planet of the naked apes.  When are they going to put clothes on these creatures?!!

 

So, there's the first trailer, and as I'm sure Jeffery is already wondering, when will we get another, more revealing trailer?  "Lawgiver, who knows... ?"

 

 



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To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 8, 2016 7:42 pm
Subject: [pota] POTA teaser hits Friday

 

 

  Or so director Matt Reeves has hinted. With websites chiming in that their set reports will also hit tomorrow, it sounds like a good day to go Ape.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

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I have the same feeling. I hope it hasn't degenerated into a mindless action movie. But it also shows some promise.

And I was also hoping that they would be wearing their own clothing, but I didn't think for a minute that this iteration of the franchise would try to fit in with the classic run.

I'll probably stay away from any trailers beyond this one lest they give away too much.

Dario

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

What's building for me after seeing this a couple times now is how absurd that animals that evolved in tropical setting seem to be doing so fine in the winter setting of this movie. Do the filmmakers think apes are like bears and grow winter coats?!


Anyway, I hope there's more to this one than just gun fights and explosions. There bloody well better be or this franchise might as well be dead. And put some clothes on those poor creatures!





-----Original Message-----
From: Luke R lukeinoz@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 9, 2016 11:18 am
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA teaser hits Friday

OMG...go to facebook now !

https://www.facebook.com/ ApesMovies/

The trailer is there.

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On Fri, 9/12/16, Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [pota] POTA teaser hits Friday
To: "lawford42@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com>, "Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG]" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, 9 December, 2016, 11:24












Or so director Matt Reeves
has hinted. With websites chiming in that their set reports
will also hit tomorrow, it sounds like a good day to go
Ape. Sent from Mail
for Windows 10









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Jeffrey Krueger, you shut your mouth!
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Dec 9, 2016 12:54 pm
Subject: RE: [pota] Re: POTA teaser hits Friday [1 Attachment]

 
  If it's any consolation, the blu-ray will probably hit around Christmas; a few months shy of POTA 's 50th anniversary, bitch!
  If you're worried it will be all action, check out what the filmmakers have said.
  I get the feeling the apes are thrust into the winter setting. They don't know what winter is. That might be what creates a desire in them 4 clothes.
  Next trailer: don't hold your breath. But I'm satisfied. The movie itself will be here before you know it.
 
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OK, so I've seen it.  Too bad it's not coming out now because it looks like a great winter movie, perfect for watching at Christmas time while popping corn in the fireplace.  There's not enough of the movie shown for me, so the trailer still seems more like a teaser trailer.  I guess from what's shown we're going to get much war action, but I hope the movie is more than just an action picture.  Despite the winter setting, also looks like it's still planet of the naked apes.  When are they going to put clothes on these creatures?!!
 
So, there's the first trailer, and as I'm sure Jeffery is already wondering, when will we get another, more revealing trailer?  "Lawgiver, who knows... ?"
 
 


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  Or so director Matt Reeves has hinted. With websites chiming in that their set reports will also hit tomorrow, it sounds like a good day to go Ape.
 
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.html A part of me would like to see a movie closer to the age of the classic apes while another part of me would like to see a slow progression leading too that with at least 10 more sequels. The more the merrier. But that of course is up to Donald Trump. LOL

But anyway, loved the trailer. Looks like a big scale big budget movie. Looking forward to July 14th! 

Go Ape!
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  If it's any consolation, the blu-ray will probably hit around Christmas; a few months shy of POTA 's 50th anniversary, bitch!
  If you're worried it will be all action, check out what the filmmakers have said.
  I get the feeling the apes are thrust into the winter setting. They don't know what winter is. That might be what creates a desire in them 4 clothes.
  Next trailer: don't hold your breath. But I'm satisfied. The movie itself will be here before you know it.
 
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OK, so I've seen it.  Too bad it's not coming out now because it looks like a great winter movie, perfect for watching at Christmas time while popping corn in the fireplace.  There's not enough of the movie shown for me, so the trailer still seems more like a teaser trailer.  I guess from what's shown we're going to get much war action, but I hope the movie is more than just an action picture.  Despite the winter setting, also looks like it's still planet of the naked apes.  When are they going to put clothes on these creatures?!!
 
So, there's the first trailer, and as I'm sure Jeffery is already wondering, when will we get another, more revealing trailer?  "Lawgiver, who knows... ?"
 
 


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  Or so director Matt Reeves has hinted. With websites chiming in that their set reports will also hit tomorrow, it sounds like a good day to go Ape.
 
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The filmmakers say they considered clothing the apes but decided to wait. I think they snow would be a good reason for the apes to adopt clothes (just as it did primitive humans (Ice Age, etc.).

 

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Group: pota Message: 75684 From: totellthetruth42 Date: 12/12/2016
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It's almost as if DAWN was the Caesar vs. Aldo part of BATTLE (with the turning on of a power switch being the MacGuffin), and WAR is the battle part of BATTLE and the little girl in the new trailer is the MacGuffin (not forgetting RISE being a loose remake of CONQUEST and all the clever name/quote dropping being the MacGuffin).
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explosions. There bloody well better be or this franchise might as well be dead. <<


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There was a little bit of extra footage in the cave, last night in a commercial that was shown during the last part of The Walking Dead.


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    Group: pota Message: 75688 From: zasco1957@aol.com Date: 12/13/2016
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      Hi again, James, how has it been going?
       
      Well, I wanted to thank you for the penultimate Hasslein Institute story...however, once again, I was sorry to hear about "how Galen and Lucius no longer would exist" in this new timeline.  I'd been hoping that they would've been returned to their own time, somehow, safe and unharmed.  Galen was an integral part of the Apes saga as well as Lucius had been.
       
      I read with amusement, though, how Governor Breck, again in this timeline, ended up being a used-car salesman.  It got me to wondering whatever became of MacDonald, Kolp, and Hoskyns (or Hoskins)...where are they now?  And when Hasslein himself was going to be speaking at a function, I said, Wow!  Everything is totally different in this new scenario.  Virdon and Burke also are still in the picture. 
       
      Sir, don't get me wrong, I liked all of the stories published, but the Hasslein Institute was a dynamic read indeed.  That one would've been my favorite, next to Cornelius' Journal, the Mendez Dynasty and the Ape City Chronicles.  I need to print these stories for my own files and reading enjoyment. 
       
      But thanks again...hope to hear from you soon.
       
      Sincerely yours,
       
      Zach 
       
       
       
       
       
       
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      TGIF! The final installment of the HASSLEIN INSTITUTE OF TEMPORAL PHYSICS is now online. It has been almost 5 years since this project was started and thank you everyone who helped and contributed, especially Matt Spence who wrote some installments.


      This is also the end of our weekly or Friday feature. When we began with 'Lesson from the Lawgiver' almost 12 years ago there was very little original POTA content out there. Now there is a new movie series, new comics, Rich Handley's anthology coming in January, etc. We've served our purpose and now we are done. Again a big thank you to all who contributed over these last 12 years with a special shout out to Dave Ballard and Glen Scheetz.


      To read the HASSLEIN INSTITUTE click the banner on the group's home page or on this link: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/HI.htm


      Have a great weekend everyone!


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      Group: pota Message: 75689 From: jamesa1102 Date: 12/14/2016
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      Thanks Zach! Glad you enjoyed the Hasslein Institute. Of course, it is possible that Galen and Lucius might still come to exist in the new timeline. As far as Breck's fate, I was wondering if anyone got the reference. Also, MacDonald probably ended up working for a little known State Senator with a funny name. Kolp and Hoskins probably worked for Dick Cheney.

      ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <Zasco1957@...> wrote :

      Hi again, James, how has it been going?
       
      Well, I wanted to thank you for the penultimate Hasslein Institute story...however, once again, I was sorry to hear about "how Galen and Lucius no longer would exist" in this new timeline.  I'd been hoping that they would've been returned to their own time, somehow, safe and unharmed.  Galen was an integral part of the Apes saga as well as Lucius had been.
       
      I read with amusement, though, how Governor Breck, again in this timeline, ended up being a used-car salesman.  It got me to wondering whatever became of MacDonald, Kolp, and Hoskyns (or Hoskins)...where are they now?  And when Hasslein himself was going to be speaking at a function, I said, Wow!  Everything is totally different in this new scenario.  Virdon and Burke also are still in the picture. 
       
      Sir, don't get me wrong, I liked all of the stories published, but the Hasslein Institute was a dynamic read indeed.  That one would've been my favorite, next to Cornelius' Journal, the Mendez Dynasty and the Ape City Chronicles.  I need to print these stories for my own files and reading enjoyment. 
       
      But thanks again...hope to hear from you soon.
       
      Sincerely yours,
       
      Zach 
       
       
       
       
       
       

       
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      Group: pota Message: 75692 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/22/2016
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      It looks like the mute little girl seen in the "War" trailer is named Nova, and according to "Entertainment Weekly" it's the SAME Nova played by Linda Harrison in the original POTA. Which makes no sense from a timeline perspective. Considering that EW has never shown the Nu Apes respect (no cover or anything) they can just get screwed. Maybe she uses the name Nova (as Caesar shares the name with an old POTA character) but the Nu Apes storyline is centuries before Heston arrives (if he arrives on this timeline at all). So what are they talking about? EW gets all the scoops but I guess they don't have to bother thinking things through.

       

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      Group: pota Message: 75694 From: haristas Date: 12/24/2016
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      Someone is very confused, I think.  I've also read that they call her Nova because they find the little girl hiding in an old Chevy Nova (I wonder if it's the carcass of the one my grandmother owned in 1970?).  Anyway, this is another example of how stupid these homages to the original are.  I wish they wouldn't do them.  Just stick to explaining the basics, like how the world became a nuclear wasteland. 


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        It looks like the mute little girl seen in the "War" trailer is named Nova, and according to "Entertainment Weekly" it's the SAME Nova played by Linda Harrison in the original POTA. Which makes no sense from a timeline perspective. Considering that EW has never shown the Nu Apes respect (no cover or anything) they can just get screwed. Maybe she uses the name Nova (as Caesar shares the name with an old POTA character) but the Nu Apes storyline is centuries before Heston arrives (if he arrives on this timeline at all). So what are they talking about? EW gets all the scoops but I guess they don't have to bother thinking things through.
       
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        No, finding her in a Nova sounds like a joke. The scene where they find her has been shown at NY Comic-Con and a description is available.

        It's possible they won't mention her name. Sometimes they just use the names for the hell of it. I remember in POTA2001 Ari's friend was called Nova and Thade's dad was called Zauis and the names were never brought up unless you looked at the credits.

         

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        Someone is very confused, I think.  I've also read that they call her Nova because they find the little girl hiding in an old Chevy Nova (I wonder if it's the carcass of the one my grandmother owned in 1970?).  Anyway, this is another example of how stupid these homages to the original are.  I wish they wouldn't do them.  Just stick to explaining the basics, like how the world became a nuclear wasteland. 

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          It looks like the mute little girl seen in the "War" trailer is named Nova, and according to "Entertainment Weekly" it's the SAME Nova played by Linda Harrison in the original POTA. Which makes no sense from a timeline perspective. Considering that EW has never shown the Nu Apes respect (no cover or anything) they can just get screwed. Maybe she uses the name Nova (as Caesar shares the name with an old POTA character) but the Nu Apes storyline is centuries before Heston arrives (if he arrives on this timeline at all). So what are they talking about? EW gets all the scoops but I guess they don't have to bother thinking things through.

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75696 From: mlccougar Date: 12/25/2016
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        .html I think it's just a tip of the hat to the original. No further connection than that, obviously. Otherwise, Nova introduced herself to Taylor and she's 2000 years old. LOL 

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        On Saturday, December 24, 2016, 3:11 PM, Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

         

          No, finding her in a Nova sounds like a joke. The scene where they find her has been shown at NY Comic-Con and a description is available.

          It's possible they won't mention her name. Sometimes they just use the names for the hell of it. I remember in POTA2001 Ari's friend was called Nova and Thade's dad was called Zauis and the names were never brought up unless you looked at the credits.

         

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        Someone is very confused, I think.  I've also read that they call her Nova because they find the little girl hiding in an old Chevy Nova (I wonder if it's the carcass of the one my grandmother owned in 1970?).  Anyway, this is another example of how stupid these homages to the original are.  I wish they wouldn't do them.  Just stick to explaining the basics, like how the world became a nuclear wasteland. 

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          It looks like the mute little girl seen in the "War" trailer is named Nova, and according to "Entertainment Weekly" it's the SAME Nova played by Linda Harrison in the original POTA. Which makes no sense from a timeline perspective. Considering that EW has never shown the Nu Apes respect (no cover or anything) they can just get screwed. Maybe she uses the name Nova (as Caesar shares the name with an old POTA character) but the Nu Apes storyline is centuries before Heston arrives (if he arrives on this timeline at all). So what are they talking about? EW gets all the scoops but I guess they don't have to bother thinking things through.

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75699 From: haristas Date: 12/28/2016
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        I found this by accident on YouTube last night.  Even though it's called "TV Trailer," it's actually a "TV spot."  I wish it were included on the Blu-ray in better quality.

        I bought this on 16mm when I was a teenager in the '70s.  Still have it, though I haven't own a projector in decades.

        Anyway, this was my first introduction to PLANET OF THE APES.  I came home from school one day in, I guess, February 1968 and started watching afternoon kid TV from NYC.  I'll never forget how my eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw this commercial.  It's basically a short version of the trailer.  The part at the very end with no sound is where an announcer would say when it was opening or at what theaters.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsM_xAKEfGo
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        Great fine Rory! Thanks!

        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <Haristas@...> wrote :

        I found this by accident on YouTube last night.  Even though it's called "TV Trailer," it's actually a "TV spot."  I wish it were included on the Blu-ray in better quality.

        I bought this on 16mm when I was a teenager in the '70s.  Still have it, though I haven't own a projector in decades.

        Anyway, this was my first introduction to PLANET OF THE APES.  I came home from school one day in, I guess, February 1968 and started watching afternoon kid TV from NYC.  I'll never forget how my eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw this commercial.  It's basically a short version of the trailer.  The part at the very end with no sound is where an announcer would say when it was opening or at what theaters.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsM_xAKEfGo
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        Group: pota Message: 75701 From: mikem3978 Date: 12/29/2016
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        This is a great find, Rory.  Thanks!  This does bring you back to the feeling that's kept us wrapped up with this movie for almost 50 years.


        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <Haristas@...> wrote :

        I found this by accident on YouTube last night.  Even though it's called "TV Trailer," it's actually a "TV spot."  I wish it were included on the Blu-ray in better quality.

        I bought this on 16mm when I was a teenager in the '70s.  Still have it, though I haven't own a projector in decades.

        Anyway, this was my first introduction to PLANET OF THE APES.  I came home from school one day in, I guess, February 1968 and started watching afternoon kid TV from NYC.  I'll never forget how my eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw this commercial.  It's basically a short version of the trailer.  The part at the very end with no sound is where an announcer would say when it was opening or at what theaters.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsM_xAKEfGo
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        Group: pota Message: 75702 From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/30/2016
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        Good morning. Hope everyone had a great holiday. The Teaser poster for WAR is now on the group website in the One Sheets section: War for the Planet of the Apes

         Of course we'll be updating that page as new posters are released.


        Have a great New Year's everyone!  

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        Incredibly cool.


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        Subject: [pota] War Teaser Poster

        Good morning. Hope everyone had a great holiday. The Teaser poster for WAR is now on the group website in the One Sheets section: War for the Planet of the Apes http://www.potamediaarchive.com/War.htm


        http://www.potamediaarchive.com/War.htm

        War for the Planet of the Apes http://www.potamediaarchive.com/War.htm


        View on www.potamediaarchiv... http://www.potamediaarchive.com/War.htm
        Preview by Yahoo


        Of course we'll be updating that page as new posters are released.


        Have a great New Year's everyone!
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        Group: pota Message: 75704 From: mlccougar Date: 1/3/2017
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        .html.htmlThis book is set to be out in the spring... It says it's the second novel compilation, but I didn't even know about the first one until now...

        https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Omnibus-John-Jakes/dp/1785653911/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1483449796&sr=8-3&keywords=RISE+OF+THE+PLANET+OF+THE+APES+PAPERBACK&linkCode=sl1&tag=sinatraguide-20&linkId=afb497f989abec5d31fc39cd76ab03cd
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        Group: pota Message: 75705 From: Dario Sciola Date: 1/3/2017
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        What is really weird about this anthology is that is has "Planet" as adapted by William Quick from the 2001 Burton film!

        I remember hearing that the novelization was better than the movie. I did pick it up (cheaply!) at one point, as well as the two other novels ("Colony" and "The Fall") Quick based in that universe, but never got around to reading them.

        Has anyone read any of these?

        Dario

        On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:51 AM, mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

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        Group: pota Message: 75706 From: mlccougar Date: 1/4/2017
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        .html.htmlYeah, it is weird about "Planet" being the 2001 film novelization... Maybe copyright issues stopped them from using Boulle's original version?

        I've not read any of the 2001 "Apes" related books, so I have nothing to add to that other than I think I recall reading somewhere that in the book, I think it was Thade that's supposed to be a white Gorilla in the book? Does that sound right?







        In a message dated 1/3/2017 1:40:02 PM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:


        What is really weird about this anthology is that is has "Planet" as adapted by William Quick from the 2001 Burton film!


        I remember hearing that the novelization was better than the movie. I did pick it up (cheaply!) at one point, as well as the two other novels ("Colony" and "The Fall") Quick based in that universe, but never got around to reading them.


        Has anyone read any of these?


        Dario


        On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 11:51 AM, mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
        This book is set to be out in the spring... It says it's the second novel compilation, but I didn't even know about the first one until now...

        https://www.amazon.com/Planet-Apes-Omnibus-John-Jakes/dp/1785653911/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1483449796&sr=8-3&keywords=RISE+OF+THE+PLANET+OF+THE+APES+PAPERBACK&linkCode=sl1&tag=sinatraguide-20&linkId=afb497f989abec5d31fc39cd76ab03cd











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        Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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        Group: pota Message: 75708 From: Jeff K. Date: 1/6/2017
        Subject: (SPOILER) "War" - - the story so far
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        "If we lose this battle that's the end of the world as we know it! We will have proved ourselves inferior, weak. And all those groveling cowards who are alive when the battle is over will be the weakest of all. This will be the end of human civilization and the world will belong to a planet of apes!" - - - a 20th Century prophet

         

         

        2016 was the Chinese Year of the Monkey but 2017 is Fox's Year of the Ape, so we've had our first taste of the latest chapter in the revitalized "Planet of the Apes" franchise. "War For the POTA" is set to arrive July 14. The filmmakers stopped by New York Comic-Con on 10/6/16. More recently, the first trailer was dropped and Fox allowed websites to post their on-set reports (from January 2016). The end result is a lot of information out there of what to expect in 6 months. As I did for past movies, I wanted to find the best stuff and put it together in one place.

        This isn't meant to spoil the movie. This is 100% what the filmmakers felt was OK to share about the movie so we can feel confident and get excited for it (or not). They are basically putting their cards on the table. Will it be all action or have a stupid story? This is what they want to achieve (doesn't mean they will but it's the goal). The filmmakers presumably want to keep the integrity of the film (not to be confused with the marketing, which sometimes does go overboard). They don't want to spoil their movie either.

        I am a big spoiler head. The internet is like a candy store for me. But still, I learn, what, 1% of what a movie has to offer (if it's a good one)? Even if I know basically what happens, there's still the script, the acting, the music, the look. There's a lot to take in during a movie and I see this as prolonging the enjoyment, sipping as opposed to taking it all in one gulp.

        BUT I know there are those who want to be Sgt. Schultzes and "know noth-ing!". So I have put this into two parts. "Story" outlines what happens in the movie and includes the (possible) spoilers. "Production" is the more general stuff about the shooting with no story elements. But those who don't even want to know there's snow in the movie (oops!) should leave now. See you in July. For the rest, I'll see you below…

         

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        First of all, it's the same folks who gave us "Dawn"; the same director and writers, mostly the same cast (ape-wise), prob the same sensibility. If you liked "Dawn" there's a good chance you'll like this. In fact, I have a feeling "Ape" fans will like this more. I loved "Dawn" but it was a tradish good guy/bad guy story. What I've always loved about POTA is it's more ambiguous tone; we like certain characters but no one is perfect. The filmmakers plan to put their hero through the mill and go to the dark side. It's the Caesar of "Rise" or maybe "Conquest" (or worse?). That's tough to do in this age of expensive blockbusters. We'll see what they achieve but points for trying.

        Also of note is that "War" has had the most privilege of any "Ape" movie. It had a full three years from script to screen, more than any of the others ("Dawn" lost a year to a director change). It also (presumably) has the biggest budget, given the success of "Dawn" ($710 million worldwide) and a hope "Apes" can do better as more people get on board. Plus, Matt Reeves is only the second director to do two "Ape" movies. So if experience counts, he can bring that to "War" (though it didn't help J. Lee Thompson with "Battle" - - or maybe it did?). Any way you slice it, "War" has the most resources of any POTA ever. Though that's not to say they didn't struggle or were given a blank checkbook. To paraphrase the director, they will be working hard on the movie until it is ripped from their hands.

        So what is all this time and effort going toward? That's why we're here, my beloved.

         

        1.       STORY

         

        a)       ACT ONE

        "I believe we have the best opening of all the movies". - - - producer Dylan Clark

         

        "War" picks up 2 years after "Dawn", with the promised conflict between Caesar's band and the human military. Things have not gone well and the apes have been forced out of their "Dawn" village and up into a cavey "hidden fortress" behind a waterfall ("Hidden Fortress" was the name of the film during production, which works both for the story and also a nod to Akira Kurosawa's "Hidden Fortress" (1958), a big influence on the story for the original "Star Wars" movie).

        Reeves: "It was raining so hard that our equipment almost got swept away. It was an insane experience. But it was quite beautiful and wonderful to capture on film…almost like those images from "Last of the Mohicans", there is an ape community behind the waterfall and that's how they've been able to hide all this time".

        Reeves: "(Caesar has) taken on almost legendary status because - - somehow - - though the (human) army is armed with all kinds of weaponry from the armory, the apes of course only have scavenged weapons, they have weapons they've made - - yet they're surviving in the woods and part of that is because of Caesar's intelligent command. And (the humans) believe that if they could find him, the apes would fall".

        Reeves: "As the film begins, we're in Muir Woods. We actually start the film from the human point-of-view and we're moving up the mountains through the woods looking for Caesar, who is rumored to be commanding the war from some hidden command center. And they spot an ape trench… and they basically set out a giant attack".

        For those expecting or wanting a war movie, the opening is where to look. Dylan Clark: "I think the audience has been waiting for this kind of fight to happen but I also think they don't want to just see human army vs. ape army. You can't have an entire movie of that… Matt wanted to start in the geography that you understood where the ape habitat was and then lead the audience, through the character of Caesar, on this mythic journey. And each step along the way… are very different… What I love about the journey is that we're in the apes' point-of-view. We are experiencing this movie through Caesar – the narrative weight of this film is on his back".

         

        This first act is basically the war that gives the film it's title. A battle that ends with a tragedy that turns the story. Andy Serkis: "(A) cataclysmic event happens very early on in our story, which sends (Caesar) in a direction that he's just not expecting; that is when it becomes very personal, a very personal tragedy that drives him to a place where he forgets himself and wants revenge and that becomes his pure, driving force. And that is an alien feeling to him and he struggles to fight and battle that for the whole journey".

        (SPECULATION: What tragedy? No hint but I suspect he could lose his family. The son has been recast and as we'll see there's not much room for his family in this story. Plus it's a tragedy that carries believable weight. So that's my bet.)

        In "Dawn", Caesar sought to live in peace with humans (having come from their world and seen the good as well as the bad) and catch the monkey wrench thrown into the works by his pal Koba (who only saw the bad side of humans). In this film the humans have pushed Caesar so far that he wonders if maybe Koba was right and the humans (as a whole) are impossible to get along with. Reeves: "Caesar will come to understand why Koba felt the way he did, and the question is whether he can overcome the darkness within him when Koba could not. The war in this movie is both within and out of Caesar".

        The filmmakers loved Koba and the actor who played him (Toby Kebbell) and toyed with keeping him alive. Did he survive "Dawn"? No. But he's a presence in the film, maybe literally. Reeves: "Koba's presence is huge in the film. He really haunts Caesar… (Caesar) starts to lose his empathy for humans and in a way starts to become like Koba… and we have some presence of Koba actually in this film in many ways, like these turncoats and in glimpses of him that Caesar has". That comment suggests Koba might return as a ghost or an image Caesar has (What about the return of "Dawn" humans Jason Clarke and Keri Russell? Dylan Clark won't comment. Hmmm).

        The "turncoats" of which he speaks are the apes who rallied around Koba in "Dawn". They didn't just come back and instead are working for the humans. Reeves: "They couldn't imagine that Caesar would ever allow them back into the fold. Just in order to survive, they're willing to prostrate themselves and it's a pretty cool part of the story". They are called the Kongs, as in Donkey Kong (or derogatorily, "Donkeys"). Hey, what's a war without traitors?

        Act one sets up what is the main struggle of the film. Reeves: "(The) whole idea was how does what happened with Koba inform this and challenge Caesar and bring him to places he's never gone to… The war is this huge external conflict, but almost an even bigger internal conflict, the process he's going through that brings all kinds of discoveries that also, not only make the movie's canvas much bigger and grander and more epic, but there actually ends up being more emotion. There ends up being more humor. All these things, which are surprises in the story, Caesar is going on that journey…unlike anything that's happened in any of the other films so far. It's pretty exciting".

         

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        ACT TWO

         

        "Some of it is very tender. Some of it is very emotional. Some of it is very wrenching. Some of it is incredibly funny, because the journey of the characters that he meets on this path toward the Colonel is the most unexpected group that joins (Caesar). There are discoveries that he makes and as he discovers them, it brings you new tones in the movie that we've never had yet… There's so much in this movie that we haven't shown you". - - - Matt Reeves

         

        Lost in anger , what Reeves calls "a badass Clint Eastwood Caesar" feels ineffective as a leader and decides on a road trip of revenge to find the human commander behind the carnage: the Colonel (Woody Harrelson). Just as the humans think the apes would fold without Caesar, Caesar believes the war would end if he could finish the Colonel. His friends want to keep an eye on him, so he is joined by Maurice the orangutan, former nemesis Rocket, and bodyguard Luca (the loud-mouthed gorilla from "Dawn", who got his own action figure before NECA ended their Apes line).

         

        MAURICE – The orangutan is played for the third time by Karin Konoval, who says, "With this film, his story is richer, deeper and fuller. You get to see much more of him on many levels, and in terms of interactions and choices he makes along the way". She calls Maurice Caesar's "conscience": "Whatever Caesar's journey is, Maurice is a part of that. He also has a very special journey of his own… it's another aspect of his character that gets explored in this new film and that is very beautiful".

         

        ROCKET – Also returning for a third film is Terry Notary, the indispensable ape movement trainer and expert, whose Rocket gave Caesar a hurdle on his way to leadership in "Rise". They've since become close, especially now. Rocket's son was killed by Koba in "Dawn" and Notary says, "The space between the last film and this one you feel the friendship between Caesar and Rocket having grown through that experience, through that loss. That gives Rocket the maturity and ability to help Caesar in his own plight and to push him where he needs to go. It's a bit of a role reversal".

         

        LUCA – When Jason Clarke/Malcolm first enters the ape village in "Dawn", a gorilla sounds off a warning. That's Luca. He's here for Caesar's protection. Whatever else "War" reveals about him remains to be seen, but these new movies have sorely needed a gorilla character since Buck in "Rise".

         

        The quartet travel from San Francisco along the Pacific coast up into the Sierra Nevada Mountains looking for the Colonel's headquarters – all shot in Canada, of course (Tofino on Vancouver Island was used as the coastline). Along the way they meet up with a couple of interesting additions.

         

        BAD APE – This character (played by comedic actor Steve Zahn) may be the surprise of the movie. He's a complete ape outsider, wasn't part of Caesar's community (doesn't even know sign language) and suggests what other apes may be out there on the planet. Reeves: "He's a really funny but heart-breaking character as Steve plays him. He refers to himself as Bad Ape because that's what his captors referred to him as".

        As Zahn notes: "It's not really comedy. It's just a different speed to this really heavy, I mean, this (movie) gets DARK, this one. It gets really violent. Which is something interesting to me… That's what's so great about the script. It relies so much on what you bring to it… they don't hit you over the head with stuff". Zahn found an in with the character's enthusiasm: "it's like, "Oh, great!" No matter what's going on, he's like, "Oh, I'm just so glad to be around other apes!" He was off by himself in the mountains, you know? And they find him and that's a big deal because they really thought they were the only apes that survived… I escaped from the Portland Zoo when things went bad. And I learned to speak. They taught me how to speak, which is another big, huge thing… Caesar and him kind of have a comradery, we have experiences that are similar. And that's why they kind of bond. Even though they're very different".

        Adds Notary: "He's a good element in this film for taking us in new directions and leading us off into this thing and lightening up a certain heaviness. Because it's a very dark, heavy movie and it needed this… The design that we've come up with for his character, I think, is wonderful and I think the fans are really going to love him". Reeves: "We found a photo on the internet that looked exactly like that ape and we wrote (the character) to that ape. Our voices (the writers) were that ape for a long time, which was a lot less funny. (Zahn) read with me over Skype. There was a very emotional scene where you find out his backstory, where he and Caesar are talking and he started doing the scene and I started crying over Skype".

        Comments producer Dylan Clark: "I think we're going to find a much better back and forth balance between very impactful emotional drama and how it effects Caesar, but also give entertainment and lighter moments. There's levity…There are more reasons to smile and laugh than there were in prior movies… Steve Zahn's going to show up and give us a taste of the possibility and the question of what else might be out there".

        To watch Zahn himself explain about the character: ign.com/videos/2016/12/10/war-for-the-planet-of-the-apes-steve-zahn-introduces-his-character-bad-ape

         

        NOVA (Amiah Miller) – They find an orphaned human girl (orphaned because, well, Caesar just killed her father; Serkis: "Caesar is an empathetic character, but really where we take him in this movie is where that bleeds away, where he loses that… It's the most emotionally draining part of his arc that I've played"). She happens to be mute, so her name is a nod to the most beloved mute human on the POTA (also, Bad Ape gives her the hood ornament from a Nova car). Despite Caesar's objection, Maurice insists on taking her along. The relationship between Maurice and Nova is of note and was inspired by the scene in "Dawn" between Maurice and Kodi Smit-McPhee. Reeves: "When we were setting out to write the new story, we knew we really wanted to tap into that vein because that was one of the really emotional and almost mystical places - - this connection between humans and apes that the films could capture".

        Reeves calls her "the sign post" and says, "She's a critical part of the story. She's part of a giant mystery but she's part of the emotional core… As (Caesar is) driven to a darker and darker place, the presence of this little girl keeps that flicker of humanity somewhere alive in the back of his heart. And so she's a very, very important part of the story."

         

        Reeves: "This very unlikely posse of apes sets up the river, toward the Sierras, to get the Colonel. Caesar has turned in a dark way. They think they've found where the human soldiers are supposed to be… as Caesar starts making that journey up the river, he starts finding these other clues that start to fill in a larger picture about the humans – not just about the humans but also about the apes. There's a big unfolding mystery that unravels… The movie starts as a war movie and it becomes a kind of Western and then it unfolds to a grand mystery and then it becomes a real battle of wills between Caesar and the Colonel".

         

        ACT THREE

         

        "There's a real sense of foreboding in this movie… There's a sense that this is the crux, this is the climactic moment". - - - Andy Serkis

         

        It all comes to a head when Caesar and Co. track the Colonel to his mountain headquarters (shot on Mt. Seymour in British Columbia, standing in for the Sierra's Mt. Whitney). It's a former quarantine station (filmed at Tower Rock Armory) the soldiers have commandeered and is being patched up with ape slave labor (providing a nice mix of human and ape architecture; the apes use their patented "tree" designs). Reporters at the January 2016 set visit saw a scene being filmed where Caesar was on an X-shaped cross being interrogated. According to Dylan Clark, "We're not making the Bible story… it's not meant to be a cross, but if it's perceived as one, I think that might be an interesting conversation – however that's not the intent". (Not making the Bible story? See below)

         

        As for the Colonel, Reeves calls him "a Kurtzian 'Apocalypse Now'-type character with great gravitas and intensity… The movie does have an 'Apocalypse Now' structure in a way in that Caesar is making his way up the river, so to speak, but in this case it's into the mountains and through the snow… And along the way he discovers more and more evidence of the Colonel's atrocities. And how extreme he is. And when he reaches the Colonel, he comes to understand that he is a colonel who is extreme because of the extreme circumstances the humans are in. He's become almost godlike to the humans". (Another famous ape story will also get an 'Apocalypse Now' makeover this year as "Kong: Skull Island" - - with Terry Notary in the title role - - is set during the Vietnam War).

        Reeves: "This group that follows him, they are the Alpha Omega, which is actually a reference to 'Beneath'. But that's the beginning and the end, because this group believes that if they succeed then the humans will survive. If they fail, the humans end and the human race will vanish. It will become a planet of apes". It helps that the ALZ virus has reared it's head again with another surprise for the humans (regression?). Reeves: "The humans are in a very, very tragic situation and that's why they are fighting as brutally as they are. Because, wouldn't you?". The mix of "Alpha Omega" and the new, improved virus has led some to speculate that this is the birth of the mutants ( birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/12/16/are-we-getting-some-mutant-humans-on-the-planet-of-the-apes ). The soldiers, in good Vietnam movie fashion, have anti-ape slogans on their helmets like "Monkey Killer" and "Bedtime For Bonzo". The actors, including Woody, did their own camouflage makeup.

         

        In the trailer, the Colonel looks at a picture of his son (a kind of parallel with Gary Oldman in "Dawn"). Reeves just calls that a piece of the puzzle. According to Reeves, the Colonel is "not a villain, but he's an extremely tortured, dark character and Woody was just incredible and it was great to see them (Woody and Andy) acting opposite each other. One of the things in a war film is that you have (the) spectacle of the battles but what matters is the drama at the forefront, the intimate battle of wills that exists between Caesar and the Colonel… it's the core of the movie… Woody reveals where the extremity in his actions come from - - as he reveals the justification behind all these chilling acts… nothing is a lie. You realize he's not crazy. It's just that the world has gone crazy, the world is extreme… One of the things that has gotten very important to us is the story becomes less interesting the moment you lose empathy… these are characters in the most extreme situation and they are pushed to do things in order to secure their own survival. And the things they do are questionable, but the reasons they end up doing them are relatable and understandable. So we don't try to have any character that you can just dismiss".

        Serkis notes: "the third act of the movie or a large part of the movie takes place in a very inhospitable environment. There was a bleakness to it, but Matt really… I think we both sailed close to insanity. I feel I really sailed close to insanity in this film". Not unlike the legendary reports about the making of 'Apocalypse Now'. Adds Dylan Clark: "The film is about, "will Caesar regain his humanity and become the Caesar we know and love? Or will he not?" That exploration that Matt went on with Andy was bleak at times".

         

        (SPOILER: The rest of this deals with the end of the movie; though the actual end of the movie hasn't been revealed, this might be too close for comfort for some. Be warned).

        Perhaps the end of the movie can be summed up in one word: Moses. The creators of "Rise" saw Caesar as a Moses figure, though the director saw him more as Spartacus. But that was just a warm up to Reeves: "In "Rise", he comes from humble beginnings and he rises to being a revolutionary. In "Dawn" he's confronted with having to become a leader and trying to lead in difficult times. He tries to bridge the two populations to see if he can find peace and that failed. That thrusts you into a huge escalation, which is "War", but we didn't want it to be an escalation in action… We wanted it to be an escalation in terms of character dilemma. We wanted to take Caesar and really push him. We felt we wanted Caesar to become the ape Moses. We wanted him to become this giant, mythic figure and the tests he endures in this film are tests that secure his place as the key figure in ape history that will go down and be remembered forever. That's ambitious… it felt like the natural place to go and we're really excited about where we went".

        (SPOILERx2: OK, now this REALLY touches on the ending. Look away! Turn back now!!! No, really!) Andy Serkis says that Caesar reconnects with the Colonel's slave apes and "by the end, he's able to redeem himself and lead the exodus of the apes to freedom once more. It's a fantastic journey. An amazing arc". Is that the end of the movie? I doubt it. We know the apes win, that's a given. But does Caesar die and we move into the future (a la the end of "Battle")? Or are we going to continue on with Caesar? Dunno. As we know, Moses never lived to enter the Promised Land (he caught God on a bad day). Yet Reeves doesn't sound like he's done with Caesar: "The trilogy I'd say is that this is a Caesar arc that is specifically in our minds how he becomes a mythic, giant character… But we don't see this story as ending". Dylan Clark adds: "We never set out to make a trilogy… Our hope is that we make a whole movie that works here, and that we can continue with these characters that we love". Are they talking about continuing POTA generally or Caesar's story specifically? I vote they end Caesar's story one way or another and then push forward a couple centuries with a new dynamic between human and ape. But who knows about the future?

         

         

         

         

         

         

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        George Perez Variant For Green Lantern/Planet of the Apes #1 Revealed

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        Ten Films We're Looking Forward To In 2017

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        Zira and Cornelius plan their escape in new preview for Tarzan on the Planet of the Apes #5

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        Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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        Woody Harrelson found War for the Planet of the Apes shoot 'daunting'

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        Directed by Matt Reeves, who helmed the last movie Dawn of the Planet of the Apes back in 2014, Woody was grateful to join the action universe in ...

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        Fox's New VR Unit FoxNext Partners With Chris Milk's Within for 'Planet of the Apes' Experience

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        First Look: 'Apes' Andy Serkis Discloses Challenges (EUR Exclusive)

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        20th Century Fox shows off 2017 slate at footage presentation

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        Last up on the release schedule among the films Fox showed off is Matt Reeves' War on the Planet of the Apes (July 14), sequel to Rise of the Planet ...

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        The top 11 composers who have created musical masterpieces for geeky properties

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        6 new War For The Planet Of The Apes plot points that change everything

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        Group: pota Message: 75712 From: haristas Date: 1/26/2017
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        Here's something I just found on YouTube (seems it's been up for a month!), Matt Reeves talking about what's in the trailer for WAR FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC4_3HeOVm4


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        Group: pota Message: 75713 From: mlccougar Date: 1/28/2017
        Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes: Tales From The Forbidden Zone
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        .html.htmlIn case anybody's interested, this book *is* available at Barnes and Noble... Picked it up today, $14.95 plus tax...










        New book coming out on the 24th:



        Planet of the Apes: Tales from the Forbidden Zone Paperback – January 24, 2017

        The 1968 <I style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(51,51,51); FONT-SIZE: 14px">Planet of the Apes film has inspired generations of authors. Now a who's who of modern writers produces sixteen all-new tales, exclusive to this volume, set in the world of the original films and television series.

        Dan Abnett • Kevin J. Anderson • Jim Beard • Nancy Collins
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        Each explores a different drama within the post-apocalyptic world, treating readers to unique visions and nonstop action.




        Planet of the Apes: Tales from the Forbidden Zone: Jim Beard, Kevin J. Anderson, Nancy Collins, Jonathan Maberry, Rich Handley: 9781785652684: Amazon.com: Books




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        Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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        EXCLUSIVE: Planet Of The Apes/Green Lantern #1 Preview

        Comicbook.com

        When BOOM! Studios and DC Comics announced their Planet of the Apes and Green Lantern crossover, many fans didn't know what to expect.

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        Win A Copy of Planet of the Apes: Tales From the Forbidden Zone

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        With the release of War of the Planet of the Apes – the third in 20 Century Fox's successful reboot of their venerable science fiction series – on the ...

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        War for the Planet of the Apes Release Date, Trailer, Plot Details & Everything We Know

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        Since the beginning, the Planet of the Apes franchise has focused on the broader ideas of its out-there premise, using stories of simian revolution and ...

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        Cornelius Gets A Ring In 'Planet Of The Apes/Green Lantern' #1

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        Subject: Hasslein's Dad a Nazi
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        Group: pota Message: 75717 From: smugster2000 Date: 2/6/2017
        Subject: Simian Scrolls
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        Now available from Hunter's PLANET OF THE APES site: Issue 19 of SIMIAN SCROLLS, a free PDF magazine!


        https://pota.goatley.com/scrolls.html"


        Printed copies will become available but they take time (and money) to produce so anyone who wants one, please be patient and watch this space.


        we hope you enjoy SS19 and know that work on issue 20 has already begun - contributions are always very welcome.


        APES LIVE!


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        Group: pota Message: 75718 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/6/2017
        Subject: Re: Simian Scrolls
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        Thanks Dave! Can't wait to read the new issue.


        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <smugster2000@...> wrote :

        Now available from Hunter's PLANET OF THE APES site: Issue 19 of SIMIAN SCROLLS, a free PDF magazine!


        https://pota.goatley.com/scrolls.html"


        Printed copies will become available but they take time (and money) to produce so anyone who wants one, please be patient and watch this space.


        we hope you enjoy SS19 and know that work on issue 20 has already begun - contributions are always very welcome.


        APES LIVE!


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        Group: pota Message: 75719 From: haristas Date: 2/6/2017
        Subject: Re: Simian Scrolls
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        Oh, no!  Looks like ape on ape violence and shootings are on the "rise" in the south side neighborhoods of Ape City!  Will President Rumpus send in the federal troop?  Read story inside!





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        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2017 1:48 am
        Subject: [pota] Simian Scrolls

         
        Now available from Hunter's PLANET OF THE APES site: Issue 19 of SIMIAN SCROLLS, a free PDF magazine!


        Printed copies will become available but they take time (and money) to produce so anyone who wants one, please be patient and watch this space.

        we hope you enjoy SS19 and know that work on issue 20 has already begun - contributions are always very welcome.

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        Group: pota Message: 75720 From: mlccougar Date: 2/6/2017
        Subject: Re: Simian Scrolls
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        .html.htmlI'll looking fwd. to the printed issue :)

        Please keep us posted as things come together, thanks!







        In a message dated 2/6/2017 5:43:47 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

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        Printed copies will become available but they take time (and money) to produce so anyone who wants one, please be patient and watch this space.













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        Group: pota Message: 75721 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 2/6/2017
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        Been ages since I ordered a new Simian Scrolls! Would love one!
        Lemme know where to send money and when ;-)
        ;-)

        On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:45 AM, smugster2000@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

        Now available from Hunter's PLANET OF THE APES site: Issue 19 of SIMIAN SCROLLS, a free PDF magazine!


        https://pota.goatley.com/ scrolls.html"


        Printed copies will become available but they take time (and money) to produce so anyone who wants one, please be patient and watch this space.


        we hope you enjoy SS19 and know that work on issue 20 has already begun - contributions are always very welcome.


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        Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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        I love Planet of the Apes and have bought pretty much every tie-in comic that has been released since the early 90's. Some have been outstanding; ...

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        Planet Of The Apes/Green Lantern #1 Review - An Unlikely Success

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        Interview: Thompson, Jordan & Bagenda Take On PLANET OF THE APES/GREEN LANTERN

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        Group: pota Message: 75723 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/8/2017
        Subject: POTA turns 49
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        So that means 1 year until the movie turns 50. What wuz the POTA movie doing 50 years ago? It wuz in Michael Wilson Land. Heston sez in his diary that he read 70 pages of Wilson's draft on 1/25/67 and it "seems to me immensely good, an improvement on the Rod Serling script".

        Wilson's final draft wuz dated 3/28/67, before it went to John T. Kelley for a final polish (a writer Mort Abrahams met on "Bonanza").

        Happy Anniversary, you maniacs!

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75724 From: haristas Date: 2/8/2017
        Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
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        What was Mort Abrahams doing on Bonanza?  Did he produce a few episodes?  If so, I didn't know that obviously.


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        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 10:02 am
        Subject: [pota] POTA turns 49

         
         
          So that means 1 year until the movie turns 50. What wuz the POTA movie doing 50 years ago? It wuz in Michael Wilson Land. Heston sez in his diary that he read 70 pages of Wilson's draft on 1/25/67 and it "seems to me immensely good, an improvement on the Rod Serling script".
          Wilson's final draft wuz dated 3/28/67, before it went to John T. Kelley for a final polish (a writer Mort Abrahams met on "Bonanza").
          Happy Anniversary, you maniacs!
         
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        Group: pota Message: 75725 From: Saulo Adami Date: 2/8/2017
        Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
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        Happy 49th Anniversary for all, my dear Ape Friend!

        Saulo Adami
        From Brazil
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        Em qua, 8/2/17, Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> escreveu:

        Assunto: [pota] POTA turns 49
        Para: "lawford42@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com>, "Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG]" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Data: Quarta-feira, 8 de Fevereiro de 2017, 13:04












        So that means 1 year until
        the movie turns 50. What wuz the POTA movie doing 50 years
        ago? It wuz in Michael Wilson Land. Heston sez in his diary
        that he read 70 pages of Wilson's draft on 1/25/67 and it
        "seems to me immensely good, an improvement on the Rod
        Serling script".
        Wilson's final draft wuz dated 3/28/67, before it went to
        John T. Kelley for a final polish (a writer Mort Abrahams
        met on "Bonanza"). Happy Anniversary, you
        maniacs! Sent from Mail
        for Windows 10









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        Group: pota Message: 75726 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/9/2017
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        Don't see any "Bonanza" credits for Mort or John T. Kelley, or any shared credits. Brian Pendreigh mentioned "Bonanza", maybe a mistake. But Mort dug Kelley's writing and he wuz the one who brought the POTA script up to speed (both Heston and Mort felt Michael Wilson's final product wasn't quite right).

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:20 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49

         

         

        What was Mort Abrahams doing on Bonanza?  Did he produce a few episodes?  If so, I didn't know that obviously.

        -----Original Message-----
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        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 10:02 am
        Subject: [pota] POTA turns 49

         

         

          So that means 1 year until the movie turns 50. What wuz the POTA movie doing 50 years ago? It wuz in Michael Wilson Land. Heston sez in his diary that he read 70 pages of Wilson's draft on 1/25/67 and it "seems to me immensely good, an improvement on the Rod Serling script".

          Wilson's final draft wuz dated 3/28/67, before it went to John T. Kelley for a final polish (a writer Mort Abrahams met on "Bonanza").

          Happy Anniversary, you maniacs!

         

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        Well, I'm not disputing it, I just wanted to know if you had further details for my own edification.

        BUT, as to John T. Kelley (who also worked uncredited on CONQUEST's script before he died), John O'Callaghan (interviewed in the latest Simian Scrolls, by the way -- and I haven't read it yet), says in his book "Simians & Serialism"  (Do you have the book, by the way, Jeffery?), after having read ALL drafts of the script, that John T. Kelley "did hardly anything substantive at all to Wilson's script -- except change a few lines of dialogue." (O'Callaghan doesn't say which lines, but he lurks here and if he knows, please let me know and I'll pass it along.)  He also says that it may have been Kelley that was responsible for "the change of the protagonist's name from Thomas to Taylor -- and it's not abundantly clear whose idea it really was.  Heston's contract, dated May 2nd (1967), states the actor was 'to play the part of George Thomas.'"

        What is clear for me at least is that Michael Wilson is THE author of the screenplay to PLANET OF THE APES.  Serling gets co-credit only because of the Writers Guild rules, and John T. Kelley did hardly anything creative.  It's Wilson's work, and I'd say Schaffner deserves more credit on what the script is than Kelley. 



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        To: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 3:46 am
        Subject: RE: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49 [1 Attachment]

         
          Don't see any "Bonanza" credits for Mort or John T. Kelley, or any shared credits. Brian Pendreigh mentioned "Bonanza", maybe a mistake. But Mort dug Kelley's writing and he wuz the one who brought the POTA script up to speed (both Heston and Mort felt Michael Wilson's final product wasn't quite right).
         
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        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:20 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49
         
         
        What was Mort Abrahams doing on Bonanza?  Did he produce a few episodes?  If so, I didn't know that obviously.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 10:02 am
        Subject: [pota] POTA turns 49
         
         
          So that means 1 year until the movie turns 50. What wuz the POTA movie doing 50 years ago? It wuz in Michael Wilson Land. Heston sez in his diary that he read 70 pages of Wilson's draft on 1/25/67 and it "seems to me immensely good, an improvement on the Rod Serling script".
          Wilson's final draft wuz dated 3/28/67, before it went to John T. Kelley for a final polish (a writer Mort Abrahams met on "Bonanza").
          Happy Anniversary, you maniacs!
         
        Sent from Mail for Windows 10
         
         
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        Google

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        Group: pota Message: 75729 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/10/2017
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        I finally ordered the book today… on Jerry Goldsmith's birthday.

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 7:58 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49

         

         

        Well, I'm not disputing it, I just wanted to know if you had further details for my own edification.

         

        BUT, as to John T. Kelley (who also worked uncredited on CONQUEST's script before he died), John O'Callaghan (interviewed in the latest Simian Scrolls, by the way -- and I haven't read it yet), says in his book "Simians & Serialism"  (Do you have the book, by the way, Jeffery?), after having read ALL drafts of the script, that John T. Kelley "did hardly anything substantive at all to Wilson's script -- except change a few lines of dialogue." (O'Callaghan doesn't say which lines, but he lurks here and if he knows, please let me know and I'll pass it along.)  He also says that it may have been Kelley that was responsible for "the change of the protagonist's name from Thomas to Taylor -- and it's not abundantly clear whose idea it really was.  Heston's contract, dated May 2nd (1967), states the actor was 'to play the part of George Thomas.'"

         

        What is clear for me at least is that Michael Wilson is THE author of the screenplay to PLANET OF THE APES.  Serling gets co-credit only because of the Writers Guild rules, and John T. Kelley did hardly anything creative.  It's Wilson's work, and I'd say Schaffner deserves more credit on what the script is than Kelley. 



        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 3:46 am
        Subject: RE: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49 [1 Attachment]

         

          Don't see any "Bonanza" credits for Mort or John T. Kelley, or any shared credits. Brian Pendreigh mentioned "Bonanza", maybe a mistake. But Mort dug Kelley's writing and he wuz the one who brought the POTA script up to speed (both Heston and Mort felt Michael Wilson's final product wasn't quite right).

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:20 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49

         

         

        What was Mort Abrahams doing on Bonanza?  Did he produce a few episodes?  If so, I didn't know that obviously.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 10:02 am
        Subject: [pota] POTA turns 49

         

         

          So that means 1 year until the movie turns 50. What wuz the POTA movie doing 50 years ago? It wuz in Michael Wilson Land. Heston sez in his diary that he read 70 pages of Wilson's draft on 1/25/67 and it "seems to me immensely good, an improvement on the Rod Serling script".

          Wilson's final draft wuz dated 3/28/67, before it went to John T. Kelley for a final polish (a writer Mort Abrahams met on "Bonanza").

          Happy Anniversary, you maniacs!

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

         

         

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        NetEnt, leading provider of digital gaming solutions, has signed an agreement with 20th Century Fox Consumer Products to exclusively license the Planet of the Apes film franchise for online casino gaming.

        The mentality of the Rump invades the planet of the apes.  BAD!

        PLANET OF THE APES LIMITED-EDITION POSTERS FROM KEVIN WILSON AND GREY MATTER ART 


        I think it stinks.











        -----Original Message-----
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        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 6:21 am
        Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

         
        Google
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        CalvinAyre.com
        The partnership covers the entire Planet of the Apes brand – which has a rich heritage spanning more than 50 years – and will see the multi-media ...
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        The Nerd Recites
        Grey Matter Art latest limited-edition posters are in honour of the classic 1968 film, Planet of the Apes. Kevin Wilson, the artist, worked in collaboration ...
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        Group: pota Message: 75731 From: haristas Date: 2/10/2017
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        Excellent!  I don't know how interested you'll be in the analysis of Goldsmith's score -- my eyes glaze over at a certain point too, not knowing musical language -- but the stuff around it detailing Apjac Productions and Fox is great. 


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 11:25 am
        Subject: RE: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49 [1 Attachment]

         
          I finally ordered the book today… on Jerry Goldsmith's birthday.
         
         
        Sent from Mail for Windows 10
         
        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 7:58 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49
         
         
        Well, I'm not disputing it, I just wanted to know if you had further details for my own edification.
         
        BUT, as to John T. Kelley (who also worked uncredited on CONQUEST's script before he died), John O'Callaghan (interviewed in the latest Simian Scrolls, by the way -- and I haven't read it yet), says in his book "Simians & Serialism"  (Do you have the book, by the way, Jeffery?), after having read ALL drafts of the script, that John T. Kelley "did hardly anything substantive at all to Wilson's script -- except change a few lines of dialogue." (O'Callaghan doesn't say which lines, but he lurks here and if he knows, please let me know and I'll pass it along.)  He also says that it may have been Kelley that was responsible for "the change of the protagonist's name from Thomas to Taylor -- and it's not abundantly clear whose idea it really was.  Heston's contract, dated May 2nd (1967), states the actor was 'to play the part of George Thomas.'"
         
        What is clear for me at least is that Michael Wilson is THE author of the screenplay to PLANET OF THE APES.  Serling gets co-credit only because of the Writers Guild rules, and John T. Kelley did hardly anything creative.  It's Wilson's work, and I'd say Schaffner deserves more credit on what the script is than Kelley. 


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 3:46 am
        Subject: RE: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49 [1 Attachment]
         
          Don't see any "Bonanza" credits for Mort or John T. Kelley, or any shared credits. Brian Pendreigh mentioned "Bonanza", maybe a mistake. But Mort dug Kelley's writing and he wuz the one who brought the POTA script up to speed (both Heston and Mort felt Michael Wilson's final product wasn't quite right).
         
        Sent from Mail for Windows 10
         
        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:20 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49
         
         
        What was Mort Abrahams doing on Bonanza?  Did he produce a few episodes?  If so, I didn't know that obviously.
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 10:02 am
        Subject: [pota] POTA turns 49
         
         
          So that means 1 year until the movie turns 50. What wuz the POTA movie doing 50 years ago? It wuz in Michael Wilson Land. Heston sez in his diary that he read 70 pages of Wilson's draft on 1/25/67 and it "seems to me immensely good, an improvement on the Rod Serling script".
          Wilson's final draft wuz dated 3/28/67, before it went to John T. Kelley for a final polish (a writer Mort Abrahams met on "Bonanza").
          Happy Anniversary, you maniacs!
         
        Sent from Mail for Windows 10
         
         
         
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        Group: pota Message: 75732 From: Dario Date: 2/10/2017
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        Hmmm. 

        This book never really interested me as I assumed it would restrict itself to the music. But if there is more about Apjac and Fox that actually deals with other aspects of the production, I may have to reconsider. 

        Dario


        On Feb 10, 2017, at 12:13 PM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

         

        Excellent!  I don't know how interested you'll be in the analysis of Goldsmith's score -- my eyes glaze over at a certain point too, not knowing musical language -- but the stuff around it detailing Apjac Productions and Fox is great. 


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 11:25 am
        Subject: RE: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49 [1 Attachment]

         
          I finally ordered the book today… on Jerry Goldsmith's birthday.
         
         
        Sent from Mail for Windows 10
         
        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 7:58 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49
         
         
        Well, I'm not disputing it, I just wanted to know if you had further details for my own edification.
         
        BUT, as to John T. Kelley (who also worked uncredited on CONQUEST's script before he died), John O'Callaghan (interviewed in the latest Simian Scrolls, by the way -- and I haven't read it yet), says in his book "Simians & Serialism"  (Do you have the book, by the way, Jeffery?), after having read ALL drafts of the script, that John T. Kelley "did hardly anything substantive at all to Wilson's script -- except change a few lines of dialogue." (O'Callaghan doesn't say which lines, but he lurks here and if he knows, please let me know and I'll pass it along.)  He also says that it may have been Kelley that was responsible for "the change of the protagonist's name from Thomas to Taylor -- and it's not abundantly clear whose idea it really was.  Heston's contract, dated May 2nd (1967), states the actor was 'to play the part of George Thomas.'"
         
        What is clear for me at least is that Michael Wilson is THE author of the screenplay to PLANET OF THE APES.  Serling gets co-credit only because of the Writers Guild rules, and John T. Kelley did hardly anything creative.  It's Wilson's work, and I'd say Schaffner deserves more credit on what the script is than Kelley. 


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 3:46 am
        Subject: RE: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49 [1 Attachment]
         
          Don't see any "Bonanza" credits for Mort or John T. Kelley, or any shared credits. Brian Pendreigh mentioned "Bonanza", maybe a mistake. But Mort dug Kelley's writing and he wuz the one who brought the POTA script up to speed (both Heston and Mort felt Michael Wilson's final product wasn't quite right).
         
        Sent from Mail for Windows 10
         
        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:20 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49
         
         
        What was Mort Abrahams doing on Bonanza?  Did he produce a few episodes?  If so, I didn't know that obviously.
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 10:02 am
        Subject: [pota] POTA turns 49
         
         
          So that means 1 year until the movie turns 50. What wuz the POTA movie doing 50 years ago? It wuz in Michael Wilson Land. Heston sez in his diary that he read 70 pages of Wilson's draft on 1/25/67 and it "seems to me immensely good, an improvement on the Rod Serling script".
          Wilson's final draft wuz dated 3/28/67, before it went to John T. Kelley for a final polish (a writer Mort Abrahams met on "Bonanza").
          Happy Anniversary, you maniacs!
         
        Sent from Mail for Windows 10
         
         
         

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        Group: pota Message: 75733 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/10/2017
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        Better hurry up. Less than 10 copies left!

        Dario: I'm thinking. Don't rush me!

         

        Better hurry.

         

        pithikosentertainment.com/index.html

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

        From: Dario dario.sciola@... [pota]
        Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 2:00 PM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49

         

         

        Hmmm. 

         

        This book never really interested me as I assumed it would restrict itself to the music. But if there is more about Apjac and Fox that actually deals with other aspects of the production, I may have to reconsider. 

        Dario

         


        On Feb 10, 2017, at 12:13 PM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

         

        Excellent!  I don't know how interested you'll be in the analysis of Goldsmith's score -- my eyes glaze over at a certain point too, not knowing musical language -- but the stuff around it detailing Apjac Productions and Fox is great. 

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 11:25 am
        Subject: RE: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49 [1 Attachment]

         

          I finally ordered the book today… on Jerry Goldsmith's birthday.

         

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 7:58 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49

         

         

        Well, I'm not disputing it, I just wanted to know if you had further details for my own edification.

         

        BUT, as to John T. Kelley (who also worked uncredited on CONQUEST's script before he died), John O'Callaghan (interviewed in the latest Simian Scrolls, by the way -- and I haven't read it yet), says in his book "Simians & Serialism"  (Do you have the book, by the way, Jeffery?), after having read ALL drafts of the script, that John T. Kelley "did hardly anything substantive at all to Wilson's script -- except change a few lines of dialogue." (O'Callaghan doesn't say which lines, but he lurks here and if he knows, please let me know and I'll pass it along.)  He also says that it may have been Kelley that was responsible for "the change of the protagonist's name from Thomas to Taylor -- and it's not abundantly clear whose idea it really was.  Heston's contract, dated May 2nd (1967), states the actor was 'to play the part of George Thomas.'"

         

        What is clear for me at least is that Michael Wilson is THE author of the screenplay to PLANET OF THE APES.  Serling gets co-credit only because of the Writers Guild rules, and John T. Kelley did hardly anything creative.  It's Wilson's work, and I'd say Schaffner deserves more credit on what the script is than Kelley. 

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 3:46 am
        Subject: RE: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49 [1 Attachment]

         

          Don't see any "Bonanza" credits for Mort or John T. Kelley, or any shared credits. Brian Pendreigh mentioned "Bonanza", maybe a mistake. But Mort dug Kelley's writing and he wuz the one who brought the POTA script up to speed (both Heston and Mort felt Michael Wilson's final product wasn't quite right).

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:20 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49

         

         

        What was Mort Abrahams doing on Bonanza?  Did he produce a few episodes?  If so, I didn't know that obviously.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] < PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2017 10:02 am
        Subject: [pota] POTA turns 49

         

         

          So that means 1 year until the movie turns 50. What wuz the POTA movie doing 50 years ago? It wuz in Michael Wilson Land. Heston sez in his diary that he read 70 pages of Wilson's draft on 1/25/67 and it "seems to me immensely good, an improvement on the Rod Serling script".

          Wilson's final draft wuz dated 3/28/67, before it went to John T. Kelley for a final polish (a writer Mort Abrahams met on "Bonanza").

          Happy Anniversary, you maniacs!

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

         

         

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75734 From: haristas Date: 2/11/2017
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        Good Gawd! Wasn't everyone paying attention. The book deals with the ENTIRE series, every sequel, every score, script development, cut scenes and where they were, and much more! Get the book!




        -----Original Message-----
        From: Dario dario.sciola@... [pota]
        To: pota
        Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 5:14 pm
        Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49

        Hmmm.

        This book never really interested me as I assumed it would restrict itself to the music. But if there is more about Apjac and Fox that actually deals with other aspects of the production, I may have to reconsider.

        Dario




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        Group: pota Message: 75735 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/18/2017
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        This weekend in New York is the annual Toy Fair that announces the year's wares from toymakers. With a new POTA movie one would think there will be some action but so far "Apes" is only getting some Reaction figures. These are kind of retro figures, as if the popular franchises had been done in 3 ¾' "Star Wars"-style in the '70's. Basically they are meant to look like cheesy '70's toys. They are kind of fun for under-represented movies like "Jaws", what have you. But POTA had it's share of toys in the '70's and better than this.

        NECA is still holding to their No Apes policy. : (

        news.toyark.com/2017/02/18/toy-fair-2017-reaction-figures-planet-apes-motu-aliens-shogun-240623

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75736 From: john_harley63 Date: 2/18/2017
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        Are there any books with the production codes for the POTA tv series does anyone know?
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        Group: pota Message: 75737 From: CPKaye Date: 2/18/2017
        Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
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        I don't know of any books offhand, John, but here is the list that I put together. Hope it helps. -- charlene

        EP# Episode Title ProdCode US Broadcast UK Broadcast
        01 Escape From Tomorrow B-503 09/13/1974 10/13/1974
        02 The Gladiators B-502 09/20/1974 10/20/1974
        03 The Trap B-505 09/27/1974 10/27/1974
        04 The Good Seeds B-501 10/04/1974 11/03/1974
        05 The Legacy B-504 10/11/1974 11/10/1974
        06 Tomorrow's Tide B-508 10/18/1974 11/17/1974
        07 The Surgeon B-509 10/25/1974 11/24/1974
        08 The Deception B-510 11/01/1974 12/01/1974
        09The Horse Race B-511 1/08/1974 12/08/1974
        10 The Interrogation B-512 11/15/1974 12/15/1974
        11 The Tyrant B-513 11/22/1974 12/22/1974
        12 The Cure B-506 11/29/1974 12/29/1974
        13 The Liberator B-507 12/13/1974 01/12/1975
        14 Up Above the World So High B-514 12/20/1974 ??????


        NOTE: TV Guide listed Up Above as the 13th episode of the series and broadcasted on 12/06/1974. However, the books, Planet of the Apes As American Myth: Race, Politics, and Popular Culture (1996) and Planet of the Apes Revisited (2001) state that in some local markets, the 'lost' episode 'The Liberator' aired on that date as originally scheduled, and 'Up Above' airing on 12/20/1974.
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        Group: pota Message: 75738 From: James Date: 2/19/2017
        Subject: FW: Google Alert - planet apes
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        Group: pota Message: 75739 From: haristas Date: 2/19/2017
        Subject: Re: POTA turns 49
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        Production codes?


        -----Original Message-----
        From: john_harley63@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 6:16 pm
        Subject: [pota] Re: POTA turns 49

         
        Are there any books with the production codes for the POTA tv series does anyone know?
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        Group: pota Message: 75740 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/19/2017
        Subject: Ghost of Toy Fair Past
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        Julius, Urko and Veska were created but never released. Damn, damn, damn.

        A moment of silence, please.

         

        news.toyark.com/2015/02/15/neca-planet-apes-mego-style-figures-toy-fair-2015-152155

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75741 From: haristas Date: 2/20/2017
        Subject: Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past
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        Who's "Veska"?


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sun, Feb 19, 2017 5:45 pm
        Subject: [pota] Ghost of Toy Fair Past

         
         
          Julius, Urko and Veska were created but never released. Damn, damn, damn.
          A moment of silence, please.
         
          news.toyark.com/2015/02/15/neca-planet-apes-mego-style-figures-toy-fair-2015-152155
         
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        Group: pota Message: 75742 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/20/2017
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        The eye patch ape.

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 7:03 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past

         

         

        Who's "Veska"?

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sun, Feb 19, 2017 5:45 pm
        Subject: [pota] Ghost of Toy Fair Past

         

         

          Julius, Urko and Veska were created but never released. Damn, damn, damn.

          A moment of silence, please.

         

          news.toyark.com/2015/02/15/neca-planet-apes-mego-style-figures-toy-fair-2015-152155

         

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        From the TV series.  OK.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2017 10:24 am
        Subject: RE: [pota] Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past [1 Attachment]

         
          The eye patch ape.
         
        Sent from Mail for Windows 10
         
        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 7:03 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past
         
         
        Who's "Veska"?

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sun, Feb 19, 2017 5:45 pm
        Subject: [pota] Ghost of Toy Fair Past
         
         
          Julius, Urko and Veska were created but never released. Damn, damn, damn.
          A moment of silence, please.
         
          news.toyark.com/2015/02/15/neca-planet-apes-mego-style-figures-toy-fair-2015-152155
         
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        Group: pota Message: 75744 From: Dario Sciola Date: 2/20/2017
        Subject: Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past [1 Attachment]
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        "Escape from Tomorrow" episode from the TV series.

        Dario


        Dario

        On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

        The eye patch ape.

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 7:03 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: Ghost of Toy Fair Past

        Who's "Veska"?

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jeff K. veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: lawford42@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>; Neil Moxham neilmoxham@... [PotaDG] <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sun, Feb 19, 2017 5:45 pm
        Subject: [pota] Ghost of Toy Fair Past

        Julius, Urko and Veska were created but never released. Damn, damn, damn.

        A moment of silence, please.

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10


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        Group: pota Message: 75745 From: James Date: 2/22/2017
        Subject: FW: Google Alert - planet apes
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        10 Reasons Why Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes Needs More Respect

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        Group: pota Message: 75746 From: haristas Date: 2/22/2017
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        Burton's Planet of the Apes needs more respect?!!!!!

        No, no, no ,no ,no...... and NO!


        -----Original Message-----
        From: 'James' JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2017 6:51 am
        Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - planet apes

         
        Google
        "planet of the apes"
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        Group: pota Message: 75747 From: Zach Scott Date: 2/22/2017
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        No way!  The 2001 movie was a very bad one.

        Zach



        On February 22, 2017, at 8:17 AM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


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        Burton's Planet of the Apes needs more respect?!!!!!


        No, no, no ,no ,no...... and NO!


        -----Original Message-----
        From: 'James' JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2017 6:51 am
        Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - planet apes

         
        Google
        "planet of the apes"
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        Group: pota Message: 75748 From: haristas Date: 2/23/2017
        Subject: Planet in Edinburgh
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        I'm not sure this will have any importance to anyone here, but I post it for reference sake.

        http://www.filmhousecinema.com/showing/planet-of-the-apes/
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        Group: pota Message: 75749 From: mlccougar Date: 2/23/2017
        Subject: More on upcoming APES figures
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        .html.htmlIn addition to the upcoming ReAction figures, it looks like they're also planning APES figures with an "animated" look to them from a line called ReAnimated... See the following link for a preliminary sketch:

        http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/02/Toy-Fair-2017-Super-7-ReAction-040.jpg

        Also, this may be of interest, as it shows the ReAction figures:

        https://www.instagram.com/p/BQsroH_htcD/?taken-by=brianflynn&hl=en

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        Group: pota Message: 75750 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/23/2017
        Subject: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
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        Word is that Matt Reeves knocked it out of the park directing "War" but if so that will be bittersweet. It looks like he's moving on to darker pastures as director of "The Batman" (starring Ben Affleck, who gave us the John Chambers adventure "Argo"). Maybe call him Tim Burton 2.0 since they have both franchises in common.

        So the guessing game begins anew about who will direct the next Apes. Will Rupert Wyatt come back? Maybe Andy Serkis, who has "The Jungle Book" (2018) under his belt?

        I dug "Dawn" and "War" sounds great so thanks to Reeves for his years of hard work.

         

        deadline.com/2017/02/matt-reeves-is-the-new-batman-director-1201957224

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75751 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/24/2017
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        You should apologize to Mr. Reeves for comparing him to a hack like Burton. LOL.

        And why does his directing Batman mean he can't direct another POTA film?

        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote :

         

            Word is that Matt Reeves knocked it out of the park directing "War" but if so that will be bittersweet. It looks like he's moving on to darker pastures as director of "The Batman" (starring Ben Affleck, who gave us the John Chambers adventure "Argo"). Maybe call him Tim Burton 2.0 since they have both franchises in common.

          So the guessing game begins anew about who will direct the next Apes. Will Rupert Wyatt come back? Maybe Andy Serkis, who has "The Jungle Book" (2018) under his belt?

          I dug "Dawn" and "War" sounds great so thanks to Reeves for his years of hard work.

         

          deadline.com/2017/02/matt-reeves-is-the-new-batman-director-1201957224

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75752 From: haristas Date: 2/24/2017
        Subject: Re: More on upcoming APES figures
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        I don't about this stuff.  Looks to me like a devolution from the Medicoms.  If they don't cost too much I'll get them, but I'll probably never take them out of the packaging.  All of my Necas, except for one Dr. Zaius figure, remain in their packaging. 


        -----Original Message-----
        From: mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thu, Feb 23, 2017 1:56 pm
        Subject: [pota] More on upcoming APES figures

         
        In addition to the upcoming ReAction figures, it looks like they're also planning APES figures with an "animated" look to them from a line called ReAnimated... See the following link for a preliminary sketch:

        http://news.toyark.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/02/Toy-Fair-2017-Super-7-ReAction-040.jpg

        Also, this may be of interest, as it shows the ReAction figures:

        https://www.instagram.com/p/BQsroH_htcD/?taken-by=brianflynn&hl=en

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        Group: pota Message: 75753 From: haristas Date: 2/24/2017
        Subject: Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
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        Oh, I think it would be career suicide for Reeves to direct another POTA movie.  Hollywood is very much into branding and if Reeves did more APES he'd just be thought of as "Mr. POTA" in the industry.  Also, I'll bet he's pretty much POTA'd-out by this time.  I can't imagine it's really much more than a lot of hard work making movies like this.  I'll bet he's tired.

        As to who will direct the next one, that'll be up to Fox after they announce there will be a next one, and no doubt Reeves will still stay on as one of several "Executive Producers" and will have some say in the direction and script development of any further APES movies.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Fri, Feb 24, 2017 6:11 am
        Subject: [pota] Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA

         

        You should apologize to Mr. Reeves for comparing him to a hack like Burton. LOL.

        And why does his directing Batman mean he can't direct another POTA film?

        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote :

         
            Word is that Matt Reeves knocked it out of the park directing "War" but if so that will be bittersweet. It looks like he's moving on to darker pastures as director of "The Batman" (starring Ben Affleck, who gave us the John Chambers adventure "Argo"). Maybe call him Tim Burton 2.0 since they have both franchises in common.
          So the guessing game begins anew about who will direct the next Apes. Will Rupert Wyatt come back? Maybe Andy Serkis, who has "The Jungle Book" (2018) under his belt?
          I dug "Dawn" and "War" sounds great so thanks to Reeves for his years of hard work.
         
          deadline.com/2017/02/matt-reeves-is-the-new-batman-director-1201957224
         
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        Group: pota Message: 75754 From: jamesa1102 Date: 2/25/2017
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        That may be true but it has nothing to do with him directing Batman.


        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <Haristas@...> wrote :

        Oh, I think it would be career suicide for Reeves to direct another POTA movie.  Hollywood is very much into branding and if Reeves did more APES he'd just be thought of as "Mr. POTA" in the industry.  Also, I'll bet he's pretty much POTA'd-out by this time.  I can't imagine it's really much more than a lot of hard work making movies like this.  I'll bet he's tired.

        As to who will direct the next one, that'll be up to Fox after they announce there will be a next one, and no doubt Reeves will still stay on as one of several "Executive Producers" and will have some say in the direction and script development of any further APES movies.



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        Group: pota Message: 75755 From: haristas Date: 2/25/2017
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        Who said it did?  I see him taking on Batman as merely a calculated career move.  He's obviously not that interested for the time being in making personal films but instead helming large studio franchise pictures.  This will bring him great financial returns and increase his prestige and power in the industry (unless something hugely bombs), but as far as POTA goes, I'm guessing he's ready to move on.  

        If WAR makes more money than DAWN, then Fox will want to get going on the next installment fast (If it doesn't, it may be five or more years before we see another one.), which if Reeves were going to direct it would tie him up for another three or four years.  I can't imagine he'd be interested in that, and if it wasn't Batman he was moving on to, it would be something else.

        Hey, James, how do you feel about the death of the IMDb message boards?  I know it's become your favorite POTA discussion playground for some time now.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sat, Feb 25, 2017 10:11 am
        Subject: [pota] Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA

         
        That may be true but it has nothing to do with him directing Batman.


        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <Haristas@...> wrote :

        Oh, I think it would be career suicide for Reeves to direct another POTA movie.  Hollywood is very much into branding and if Reeves did more APES he'd just be thought of as "Mr. POTA" in the industry.  Also, I'll bet he's pretty much POTA'd-out by this time.  I can't imagine it's really much more than a lot of hard work making movies like this.  I'll bet he's tired.

        As to who will direct the next one, that'll be up to Fox after they announce there will be a next one, and no doubt Reeves will still stay on as one of several "Executive Producers" and will have some say in the direction and script development of any further APES movies.



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        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <Haristas@...> wrote :

        Who said it did?  

        That was the point of the very first post to which I responded.



        Hey, James, how do you feel about the death of the IMDb message boards?  

        About time. Too many crazy people there.
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        Group: pota Message: 75757 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/26/2017
        Subject: Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA
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        Reeves and Burton are definitely different directors but it's interesting that 2 of the 3 "modern" Apes directors so far have "Batman" in common. And the original Apes films had relations with the Batman TV show. If Reeves casts Andy Serkis as the Bookworm it will come full circle.

        Nothing is stopping Reeves from directing another Apes down the road. Certainly not in the immediate future because he's doing "Batman" (maybe 2 or 3). After that I think he will be franchised out and want to do his own stories. But if these Ape movies are still going on in 15 years, maybe.

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

        From: JamesA1102@... [pota]
        Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 3:03 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA

         

         

         

        You should apologize to Mr. Reeves for comparing him to a hack like Burton. LOL.

         

        And why does his directing Batman mean he can't direct another POTA film?

        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote :

         

            Word is that Matt Reeves knocked it out of the park directing "War" but if so that will be bittersweet. It looks like he's moving on to darker pastures as director of "The Batman" (starring Ben Affleck, who gave us the John Chambers adventure "Argo"). Maybe call him Tim Burton 2.0 since they have both franchises in common.

          So the guessing game begins anew about who will direct the next Apes. Will Rupert Wyatt come back? Maybe Andy Serkis, who has "The Jungle Book" (2018) under his belt?

          I dug "Dawn" and "War" sounds great so thanks to Reeves for his years of hard work.

         

          deadline.com/2017/02/matt-reeves-is-the-new-batman-director-1201957224

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75758 From: Jeff K. Date: 2/26/2017
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        I think if Batman hadn't come along Reeves would've done another "Apes" (nothing wrong with a trilogy). Batman is hard to resist and if he does good ones it could give him a couple billion $ winners under his belt. Apes just seems to have an uphill battle getting that kind of audience. Despite all the acclaim these new Apes moves have had, "War" was only #17 on Fandango's poll of the most anticipated movies this year. : (

        Reeves and his lifelong pal J. J. Abrams (they started out repairing Spielberg's home movies together as teenagers) have directed between them movies of "Mission: Impossible", "Star Trek", "Star Wars", POTA and now "Batman". That's quite a list of favorites from their childhood. When they started out, Reeves was the director and J. J. the producer ("The Pallbearer", 1996) and then they created the show "Felicity" together starring Keri "Dawn of the POTA" Russell (the next Catwoman?). It took Reeves 12 years for his next movie "Cloverfield" (produced by the now successful J. J.). It was a low budget hit, followed by "Let Me In", a beloved flop. Then came "Apes", which put him on the A list.

         

        I don't believe Reeves is doing Batman just for the money or his career. He's a true believer and won't just take a gig. He was going to turn down Apes unless they let him do it his way. He might be off Batman next week. The new "DC Universe" films are off to a critically panned start: "Batman v. Superman" (which won 4 Razzie awards yesterday) and "Suicide Squad". They are bleeding directors. So something is wrong creatively and presumably they want Reeves to improve things. If there isn't a support system like he's had with "Apes" he might be back.

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

        From: Haristas@... [pota]
        Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:54 AM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [pota] Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA

         

         

        Oh, I think it would be career suicide for Reeves to direct another POTA movie.  Hollywood is very much into branding and if Reeves did more APES he'd just be thought of as "Mr. POTA" in the industry.  Also, I'll bet he's pretty much POTA'd-out by this time.  I can't imagine it's really much more than a lot of hard work making movies like this.  I'll bet he's tired.

         

        As to who will direct the next one, that'll be up to Fox after they announce there will be a next one, and no doubt Reeves will still stay on as one of several "Executive Producers" and will have some say in the direction and script development of any further APES movies.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Fri, Feb 24, 2017 6:11 am
        Subject: [pota] Re: Official: Matt Reeves leaving POTA

         

         

        You should apologize to Mr. Reeves for comparing him to a hack like Burton. LOL.

         

        And why does his directing Batman mean he can't direct another POTA film?

        ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@...> wrote :

         

            Word is that Matt Reeves knocked it out of the park directing "War" but if so that will be bittersweet. It looks like he's moving on to darker pastures as director of "The Batman" (starring Ben Affleck, who gave us the John Chambers adventure "Argo"). Maybe call him Tim Burton 2.0 since they have both franchises in common.

          So the guessing game begins anew about who will direct the next Apes. Will Rupert Wyatt come back? Maybe Andy Serkis, who has "The Jungle Book" (2018) under his belt?

          I dug "Dawn" and "War" sounds great so thanks to Reeves for his years of hard work.

         

          deadline.com/2017/02/matt-reeves-is-the-new-batman-director-1201957224

         

        Sent from Mail for Windows 10

         

         

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        Group: pota Message: 75759 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 3/1/2017
        Subject: APE MARATHON
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        .html Coming Saturday March 11th on AMCTV. Full Planet of the Apes Marathon with a mini marathon Friday night (the night before) with Planet of the Apes and Beneath the Planet of the Apes. #GoApe!

        Al



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        Group: pota Message: 75760 From: haristas Date: 3/1/2017
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        Funny that twenty years ago this would have been big news, back when things on AMC were fully letterboxed and without commercials. Now, everything is pan&scan and full of commercial breaks.  Still, I guess it keeps POTA alive in the popular culture, so whatever.

        I would imagine AMC is doing this on that weekend because of the opening of KONG: SKULL ISLAND, but it might have nothing to do with it.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: potadg <potadg@yahoogroups.com>; pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Mar 1, 2017 2:49 am
        Subject: [pota] APE MARATHON

         
        Coming Saturday March 11th on AMCTV. Full Planet of the Apes Marathon with a mini marathon Friday night (the night before) with Planet of the Apes and Beneath the Planet of the Apes. #GoApe!

        Al



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        Group: pota Message: 75761 From: Tim Date: 3/1/2017
        Subject: Re: APE MARATHON
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        Yeah...i saw Ceasar yelling Fight Like Apes and Taylor bound on the commercial the other night during TWD and got a little thrill in my gut...!

        On Mar 1, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

         

        Funny that twenty years ago this would have been big news, back when things on AMC were fully letterboxed and without commercials. Now, everything is pan&scan and full of commercial breaks.  Still, I guess it keeps POTA alive in the popular culture, so whatever.


        I would imagine AMC is doing this on that weekend because of the opening of KONG: SKULL ISLAND, but it might have nothing to do with it.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        To: potadg <potadg@yahoogroups.com>; pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wed, Mar 1, 2017 2:49 am
        Subject: [pota] APE MARATHON

         
        Coming Saturday March 11th on AMCTV. Full Planet of the Apes Marathon with a mini marathon Friday night (the night before) with Planet of the Apes and Beneath the Planet of the Apes. #GoApe!

        Al



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