--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:
> Thanks to Greg P., issue #8 of the Marvel UK comics is now available
> for download:
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> Hunter

> >
> > Patrick, do you kind of wonder if anyone's reading this stuff??
> >
> > John O.
>
> ***If they ain't, it's their loss! At least it's on-topic POTA

> right?
>
> Patrick ;)

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
> <patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:
> > *** I get what you're saying. But it ain't just Caesar who could

>
> ***Hmmm. Patrick... I think your writing may actually contradict

>
> I'm suggesting that Armando is the owner of the mother ape. I'm

>
> >
> > But... Caesar says that "no one knows" he exists EXCEPT for

>
>
> But he did take Caesar into the city, even though Caesar was raised

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy@w...> wrote:
> >
> > Patrick wrote:
> Why would Armando have to show Caesar how to move like a "primitive

> SHOW him how such creatures moved, doing a "charades" routine

> >
> > It sounds like Armando is reminding Caesar to walk like an ape

>
> **** Caesar was very likely built somewhat differently

> > Why would Armando insist that "there can be only one talking

>
> **** It's unfortunate that this line of dialogue is even in the

>
> >
> > Caesar: "But OUTSIDE OF YOU, no one knows I even exist." [my

>
> **** Here Caesar's response makes is sound as if Armando is

>
> I don't know if I said that right, but it makes sense to me.
>
>
> --Helen

> And... ask yourself this: Would Caesar willingly become a parent

> some other talking chimps... only to have them TAKEN AWAY from

> to be raised elsewhere by other people >
> Patrick

> The "unfortunate" part of the line (from your hypothesis'
> perspective) is Armando's words "only one". If Zira's family tree

> been extended not only to a son but also to GRANDCHILDREN, then
> Armando's line wouldn't be accurate. He would've had to

> can be NO talking chimpanzees on Earth except for YOU and YOUR
> CHILDREN, Caesar"... but this ain't what he says. "Unfortunately".
>
> Patrick

> Did anyone on the DG win this?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3853619740&ssPage
> Name=STRK:MEWA:IT
>
>
> If so, I'm curious what was on it. Were there releases for the other 4
> films as well?

> Thanks to Greg P., issue #8 of the Marvel UK comics is now

> http://www.goatley.com/pota/

> Any home brewers out there? We need some Planet of the Apes beer.

> I'll support, mold and cast whatever you would like to do. With

> Did anyone on the DG win this?

> If so, I'm curious what was on it. Were there releases for the

> Not to dismiss everything else you have written, but how does this

>
> ----------
> From: Neil[SMTP:NFOSTER@...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:14:37 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ape Beer
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy@w...> wrote:
> Any home brewers out there? We need some Planet of the Apes beer.

-- Mmmmm... beer... Ape beer! What a great idea!!
I wonder what sort of alcoholic brews the apes on the POTA would
have drunk? They must have had something!

Neil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil" <nfoster@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:52 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Beware - Yahoo snooping feature!


>
>
> Anyone who cares about their privacy may want to read the following
> message supplied by our friend Mez who owns the Friends & Fugitives
> TV site (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/friends_and_fugitives/)
>
>
> Everyone,
>
> Yahoo is now using something called "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo
> Group users around the net and see what you're doing and where you
> are going similar to cookies. Yahoo is recording every website and
> every group you visit.
>
> Take a look at their updated privacy statement:
> http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy
>
> About half-way down the page, in the section on cookies, you will
> see a link that says "web beacons". Click on the phrase "web
> beacons". That will bring you to a paragraph entitled "Outside the
> Yahoo Network." In this section you'll see a little "click here to
> opt out" link that will let you "opt-out" of their new method of
> snooping.
>
> Once you have clicked that link, you are exempted. Notice
> the "Success" message on the top of the next page. Be careful
> because once you opt out, on that page there will be a "Cancel Opt-
> out" button that, if clicked, will *undo* your opt-out.
>
> Feel free to forward this to other groups.
>
> /Mez
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:54 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] planet of the apes newton swap cards / posters


>
> That's what I love about POTA Groups, and that's why I think it is so
> very important that we attract as many people as possible to them!
>
> We may one day have answers to questions such as "Why was there never a
> Conquest Power Records?" "Was one planned?" etc.
>
> Now we just need to find someone who sent away for the Aussie Fan Club
> pack and got a POTA Note Pad etc!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Whitty, Michael [Michael.Whitty@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2004 10:48 AM
> To: whitty@...
> Subject: FW: [PotaDG] planet of the apes newton swap cards / posters
>
>
> >
> > ----------
> > From: Hoknes[SMTP:TERRYHOKNES@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 10:00:56 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] planet of the apes newton swap cards / posters
> > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> >
> hey neil it was neat to finally see the swap cards
> now we know there is a POTA swap card
> and we know that #13 had a poster!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 8:49 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Well, Mr. Whitty?


>
>
> OK I wached it and I enjoyed it very much.
>
> I think we will probably see a feature length film based on this
> episode one day.
>
> It sure had some themes very similar to POTA, don't you think?
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> > Did you watch THE OUTER LIMITS "Sixth Finger" episode?
> >
> > -- Rory
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/11/2004 5:49:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> nfoster@h... writes:
>
> -- I've always though that an interesting story could be written
> about the child that may have been the result of the union in the
> breeding annex.
>
>
>
> Well, if that really was Natalie in that scene, then there's
nothing that
> says it couldn't have been Lisa. So maybe the child that was born
from that
> union WAS Cornelius. Unless someone remembers a time difference
that makes it
> impossible.

> wow that is a very cool item
> never heard of it before
>
> anybody have info?
>
>
> > Did anyone on the DG win this?
> >
> >
>

> > Name=STRK:MEWA:IT
> >
> >
> > If so, I'm curious what was on it. Were there
> releases for the other 4
> > films as well?
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/12/2004 8:33:22 AM Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> > Battle: 2018
>
> Where did you get this year/date as being the time for BATTLE?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/12/2004 8:33:22 AM Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> > Battle: 2018
>
> Where did you get this year/date as being the time for BATTLE?

----- Original Message -----
From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 6:31 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I am wondering why you wrote...


>
>
> Conquest: 1991
> Battle: 2018
>
> I dont' think it works. I've played with this a bit, too. I'd love
> to know what happens to that offspring.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 12/11/2004 5:49:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > nfoster@h... writes:
> >
> > -- I've always though that an interesting story could be written
> > about the child that may have been the result of the union in the
> > breeding annex.
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, if that really was Natalie in that scene, then there's
> nothing that
> > says it couldn't have been Lisa. So maybe the child that was born
> from that
> > union WAS Cornelius. Unless someone remembers a time difference
> that makes it
> > impossible.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:23 AM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: I am wondering why you wrote...

In a message dated 12/12/2004 11:21:30 AM Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

I'll have to go back and look.  I was trying to remember it...

The year 2670 is mentioned, but that is way after the actual events of the movie... 2670 is when Caesar is long dead, and the Lawgiver is telling his story...

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:29 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I am wondering why you wrote...

In a message dated 12/12/04 1:18:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Natalie said that was her in the breeding
annex but I don't think it was Lisa. It didn't act like the same character.
Lisa seemed shy.  - - - Jeff

I think the truth is that Caesar was very promiscuous and sired many illegitimate offspring in his years at the circus and later in life.  Think about, what else did he have to between acts and in that tree house.  He may have been an ape, but he was also a man, right Jeff?

-- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 10:32 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I am wondering why you wrote...

In a message dated 12/12/04 1:22:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Yeah that really is a mistake. People think 2670 is the year of "Battle" itself (Caesar's time). They even printed that on the box for the VHS copy. The "official" date on the Fox website (and Marvel's chronology) is 2001. Don't remember what the novel says. - - - Jeff

All the dates in all the movies should be "offically" moved up about fifty years, right Jeff?

-- Rory

>
> ----------
> From: veetus@...[SMTP:VEETUS@...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 6:13:43 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Well, Mr. Whitty?
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

>>I have a one sided 7" 33 1/3 for BATTLE which contains 2 radio spots,

>
> ----------
> From: mlccougar@...[SMTP:MLCCOUGAR@...]
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 12:01:48 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] APES promo records
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, kidro85@a... wrote:
> Hello all, Does anybody think we will see another POTA film
again? Or a TV
> series again?
>
> I don't like to think that we wont, but I don't have a good
feeling that we
> will see another film.
>
> Happy Holidays--- Tony

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/12/2004 11:24:45 PM Central Standard Time,
> kidro85@a... writes:
>
> > Does anybody think we will see another POTA film again? Or a TV
series
> > again?
>
> I think the chances of it are slim and none, and slim's out of
town...

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/12/2004 11:27:22 P.M. Central Standard
Time,
> mlccougar@a... writes:
>
> I think the chances of it are slim and none, and slim's out of
town...
>
>
>
>
> I think there will be one if the script is there. But you look
back at the
> last ten years, and all there versions that were gone over and
rejected, and
> then the one that finally got Greenlighted . . . It's probably
going to be a
> long time before there's anything worth making. I see it's
Zanuck's
> birthday. We have him to thank for the original, just barely.
But then again we
> have him to "thank" for the new one, so it kind of cancels each
other out. With
> any luck He'll have passed on, or be too old a feeble to have
anything to do
> with the next one.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> So tonight I watched this great film for the first time in about 5
yrs
> It is one of my favorites and tonite reminded me of how much i
liked it
> the pacing is so good
> it has such happy moments and then really brings it down to
depression near the end
>
> anybody notice that Milo really acts and talks like Roddy does
later as Galen in the TV series?
> I thought it could have been Roddy speaking
>
> is Hasslein mentioned in "conquest"
> I wondered how much would the POTA timeline change if Hasslein
himself is not killed in this movie and would go on further in the
storyline would he be a hero or a criminal?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Sideshow's website says that both the Astronaut Taylor and the
Forbidden Zone Taylor are sold out. They join the original Dr. Zauis
in the sold out category. Swimsuit Model Taylor is still available
with Nova. - - - Jeff

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> Is there anyone out there that has any of the PLANET OF THE APES
films
> "promotional" records that were made to help promote the movies?
(i.e. Radio spots,
> radio interviews, etc.) If so, would you be able to make a tape of
it/them?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/12/2004 4:36:09 PM Central Standard Time,
> taebokitti@a... writes:
>
> > My guess is they would probably drink the same beer we drink.
>
> The Apes have wine... Also in the novels of ESCAPE it mentions
that some Apes
> are alcoholics, so that's another reference to liquor... And, in
the BATTLE
> novel, it has Lisa saying something about a fermented liquid that
Apes
> consume...

> In a message dated 12/12/2004 12:51:52 PM Central Standard Time,
> veetus@e... writes:
>
> > In my chronology I tried to use the dates as given. Then you

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> does anybody have this UK annual ??

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> Caesar is very intelligent and I think while he was growing up he
read lots
> of books, possibly wrote a few books, did homestudy college
courses and earned
> a graduate degree, travelled extensively(he was in the circus) and
probably
> learned to speak another language making him bilingual. This all
contributed to
> his being a great leader, after leading a successful revolt. Elaine

>
> Or you COULD assume we are dealing with more than one timeline,

> therefore place these events after the first movie, I guess?
>
> Michael
>
>
> > In a message dated 12/12/2004 12:51:52 PM Central Standard Time,
> > veetus@e... writes:
> >
> > > In my chronology I tried to use the dates as given. Then you
> only have to assume the chronology in the first film is wrong.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> Yes, Sideshow needs to make more apes not humans. Elaine

> Funny, I watched Beneath again recently and I really forgot until
> mid-way through the movie that Roddy was not Cornelius! That fill-
> in did a fine job!
>
> Michael
>

I always thought the same thing until this weekend when I was looking
at parts of Planet, then a half-hour later looking at parts of
Beneath.  The actor did a good job, but I could tell it wasn't Roddy,
right away.

Even though Roddy didn't sign up for Beneath, technically, he is in
all 5 movies since the last part of Planet (with Roddy) was also in
the first part of Beneath.

John O.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Funny, I watched Beneath again recently and I really forgot until
> mid-way through the movie that Roddy was not Cornelius!  That fill-
> in did a fine job!
>
> Michael
>

go vegetarian!

go vegetarian!

__________________________________

In a message dated 12/12/2004 3:20:23 PM Central Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:

2) Who is/was Paul Stader?

I just hooked the turntable up for a minute, and listened to the interview with Paul... It's not said outright anywhere on there, but I believe Paul was the Stunt Coordinator. In the early portion, he tells of being in the business for 34 years, and then after some more on his background, he starts talking about CONQUEST and some of the guys they hired to be stunt apes. He also talks of the flame-thrower operator and how the trainer with the whip was able to loop the whip around your neck without hurting anybody...

go vegetarian!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
> have mutants ever been made?
>
> "John O." <jspy@w...> wrote:
> All of these figures are from Planet, which other apes would you
want
> to see and would be willing to buy for $40? Right now there's
> Cornelius, Zira, Zaius(2), Soldier 1, Soldier 2.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see Julius.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
> i recently saw an old movie called "children of the damned"
> i enjoyed it, and it reminded me of the pota movies.
> for example, much of the action takes place in an abandoned
cathedral (that is later stormed by an army!)
> also, there is a character that really reminds me of hasslein. (he
fears that children will become great danger to human race).
> and one other thing: the children in the cathedral: a female, a
black male, but no fat kid LOL
> rob/ron
> >
> go vegetarian!
>

>
> In a message dated 12/13/2004 2:35:38 P.M. Central
> Standard Time,
> jspy@... writes:
>
>
> I always thought the same thing until this weekend
> when I was looking
> at parts of Planet, then a half-hour later looking
> at parts of
> Beneath. The actor did a good job, but I could
> tell it wasn't Roddy,
> right away.
>
>
>
> When I first saw it, I knew there was something not
> quite
> right about him. The way he walked and that "Kill
> you and
> disect you," line. But Watson did a good job, but
> you could
> tell he wasn't the same, even if you didn't know it
> wasn't him.
>
>

> ----------
> From: John O.[SMTP:JSPY@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 6:57:58 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor sold out
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

>
> ----------
> From: John O.[SMTP:JSPY@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 7:25:55 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: escape from the planet of the apes - the

> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

> Funny, I watched Beneath again recently and I really forgot until
> mid-way through the movie that Roddy was not Cornelius! That fill-
> in did a fine job!
>
> Michael
>

>
> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:30:23 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I am wondering why you wrote...
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

>
> Or you COULD assume we are dealing with more than one timeline,

> therefore place these events after the first movie, I guess?
>
> Michael
>
>
> > In a message dated 12/12/2004 12:51:52 PM Central Standard Time,
> > veetus@e... writes:
> >
> > > In my chronology I tried to use the dates as given. Then you
> only have to assume the chronology in the first film is wrong.

>
> ----------
> From: LordTZer0@...[SMTP:LORDTZER0@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:30:55 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: escape from the planet of the apes -

> movie
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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Rob/Ron, do you look for POTA comparisons in movies, or did this just
jump out at you?  I saw this movie a few months ago, and it didn't
hit me.

By the way, what's "go vegetarian" mean?  Does it have something to
do with POTA.

Glad you're not hiding your alias anymore.

John O.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
> i recently saw an old movie called  "children of the damned"
> i enjoyed it, and it reminded me of the pota movies.
> for example, much of the action takes place in an abandoned
cathedral (that is later stormed by an army!)
> also, there is a character that really reminds me of hasslein. (he
fears that children will become great danger to human race).
> and one other thing: the children in the cathedral: a female, a
black male, but no fat kid LOL
> rob/ron
> >
> go vegetarian!
>

go vegetarian!

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > Not to dismiss everything else you have written, but how does

>
> -- I've always though that an interesting story could be written

>
> Neil ----------------------------------------------

>
> In a message dated 12/11/2004 5:49:53 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> nfoster@h... writes:
>
> -- I've always though that an interesting story could be written
> about the child that may have been the result of the union in the
> breeding annex.
>
>
>
> Well, if that really was Natalie in that scene, then there's

> Yeah - I'm saying that the events of "Return" could be set after

>
> Michael

>
>
> >
> > ----------
> > From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@Y...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:30:23 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I am wondering why you wrote...
> > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> >
>
> Are you talking about the original five movies? IMHO if they don't
> all occur in the same timeline, then any prequels, sequels, etc.,
> could occur anywhere out there -- as POTA2001 did -- and still be
> POTA! I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I'd rather that any
> future stuff "fit."
>
> --Helen
>
> (Is there such a word as universes?)
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> >
> > Or you COULD assume we are dealing with more than one timeline,
> and
> > therefore place these events after the first movie, I guess?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > > In a message dated 12/12/2004 12:51:52 PM Central Standard

> > > veetus@e... writes:
> > >
> > > > In my chronology I tried to use the dates as given. Then you
> > only have to assume the chronology in the first film is wrong.