--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:

> no, all these similarities jumped out at me.
> because i am always thinking pota LOL
> "go vegetarian" prints automatically at the bottom of my emails.
> like the apes in battle, i also chew nuts.

*** Don't you mean "like the humans in BATTLE"? Vegetarianism is
forced on the humans by Caesar's orders -- as MacDonald says, "... at
our master's command..."

Virgil, when he's requisitioning a pistol from Mandemus, mentions
that MacDonald -- "with Caesar's permission" -- may wish to
shoot/cook/eat a rabbit.

I wonder... after "BATTLE", after MacDonald implored Caesar to "free
us COMPLETELY", did Caesar throw the anti-carnivorism law off the
books? The humans have a destiny, too... and the diet they evolved
with involves the ingestion of animal protein, like it or not.

Were fish considered "vegetarian fare"? In "TOMORROW'S TIDE", are the
fish being caught only for use as fertilizer on the farms? Or do the
apes eat fish, the way some vegetarians today don't consider fish-
meat to be on-par with land-animal meat? If the apes DON'T eat fish,
do they still allow humans to do so (in 3085, that is)?

Patrick

---------------------------------------------------------

>
> "John O." <jspy@w...> wrote:
>
> Rob/Ron, do you look for POTA comparisons in movies, or did this

just jump out at you? I saw this movie a few months ago, and it
didn't hit me.

>
> By the way, what's "go vegetarian" mean? Does it have something to

do with POTA.

>
> Glad you're not hiding your alias anymore.
>
> John O.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...>

wrote:

> > i recently saw an old movie called "children of the damned" i

enjoyed it, and it reminded me of the pota movies. for example, much
of the action takes place in an abandoned cathedral (that is later
stormed by an army!) also, there is a character that really reminds
me of hasslein. (he fears that children will become great danger to
human race). and one other thing: the children in the cathedral: a
female, a black male, but no fat kid LOL

> > rob/ron
> > >
> > go vegetarian!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
> no, all these similarities jumped out at me.
> because i am always thinking pota LOL
> "go vegetarian" prints automatically at the bottom of my emails.
> like the apes in battle, i also chew nuts.

*** Don't you mean "like the humans in BATTLE"? Vegetarianism is
forced on the humans by Caesar's orders -- as MacDonald says, "... at
our master's command..."

Virgil, when he's requisitioning a pistol from Mandemus, mentions
that MacDonald -- "with Caesar's permission" -- may wish to
shoot/cook/eat a rabbit.

I wonder... after "BATTLE", after MacDonald implored Caesar to "free
us COMPLETELY", did Caesar throw the anti-carnivorism law off the
books? The humans have a destiny, too... and the diet they evolved
with involves the ingestion of animal protein, like it or not.

Were fish considered "vegetarian fare"? In "TOMORROW'S TIDE", are the
fish being caught only for use as fertilizer on the farms? Or do the
apes eat fish, the way some vegetarians today don't consider fish-
meat to be on-par with land-animal meat? If the apes DON'T eat fish,
do they still allow humans to do so (in 3085, that is)?

Patrick

---------------------------------------------------------

go vegetarian!

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In a message dated 12/14/2004 10:14:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

*** I think Mandemus' line -- "27 years" since the Armory became his
home -- does make it impossible for Cornelius to be the child born
from the Breeding Annex "rutting". He's just a boy, not a 26-or-27
year old adult in "BATTLE".

 

So how old does that make Caesar?

Especially old I'd say.  About 50, which is old for present day un genetically modified apes.  If Virgil was his student when he was a boy then he must be half Caesar's age.  And he must have learned an awful lot very quickly to pull that off, since he's older than Caesar.  Next!

 

Okay, Lisa may belong to Mrs. Riley.  But then WHY is she working on the files at the Command Post or Ape Management or wherever?  Only a few options make sense.  She's just a loaner, or they get a discount is they offer the assistance of their slaves doing menial work or in the breeding program.  Or . . . because she's been distracted lately by Caesar and his shenanigans. and Mrs. Riley has sent her BACK to Ape Management for reconditioning.  If that's the case then there's no real reason the chimpette in the Breeding Annex can't be Lisa.  Though that come-hither look didn't seem like the sort of reaction that Lisa would give Caesar seeing him there.  That's the only real reason I can give for that being a separate character regardless of Natalie playing her or not.  Apes did play other background roles.  I do think that was Kim Hunter being carried off with the protestors in Beneath, whether she considered herself as playing Zira or not.  I do think Zira would be busy getting a crash course from Milo in being an Ape-O-Naut.  However, Zira's character does seem the type to make one last-ditch effort at peace before leaving her home planet for good.  Since she had no way of knowing about a doomsday device, or that it would be set off.  But I doubt they were up there on a joyride. They would have to be considering interplanetary travel, if not time travel.  Yeah, I know . . . it's a stretch, but so are all the movies.  

 

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> And what's Ursus' secretary reading, anyway? Ape's Wear Daily? And

shouldn't it be in scroll format? Or is this one of
those 'forbidden' books from 'before the time when the world was
nearly destroyed'?

-- Actually it's just that bloody artist using artistic licence
again!
I know we only see scrolls on screen but I just find it hard to
believe that they haven't figured out how to bind a few pages
together and make books, using scrolls for everything written down
would just become too cumbersome in my opinion.

Then again knowing me I'll go ahead and contradict myself later ;-)

Neil

Quite right Greg, and you can bet all these elements WILL come
together.

However, if you look at the homepage, you will see something else is
happening.....anyone see the banner has changed?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Thanks for uploading another strip, Neil (and thanks to Mike as
well). Things are moving along. I'm now guessing that this story
takes place prior to Planet, and that we're seeing the reason for
the hunt that captures Taylor. Still, I'm wondering when we'll see
those objects from the time capsule re-enter the story and what
effect they'll have on Ursus and Marcus.

By the way,

LordTZer0 has won the competition and gets a free copy of Parts 1 &
2 of "Beware the Beast" ashcan edition.

T, send me your mailing details.

Michael

So did Roddy and Sal.....you're in good company!!! ;)

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...>
wrote:

> like the apes in battle, i also chew nuts.

Jeff!

Patrick said "rutting"! HA! Beat you to it! ;)

Michael


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Not to dismiss everything else you have written, but how does
> this square with your notion that Caesar decides it's time to

leave

> his seed around [to beget a talking offspring] when he meets up

with

> Miss Right in the breeding annex? He's GOT to "know" he will

never

> see that child!
> >
> > -- I've always though that an interesting story could be written
> about the child that may have been the result of the union in the
> breeding annex. If the child developed the power of speech and the
> intelligence from Caesar and survived, could he after the events

of

> Battle not come looking to 'claim his right to the crown'. His one
> main rival, Cornelius, is out of the way. Maybe he would be bitter
> being the forgotten bastard (first) son who felt he had been
> overlooked in the grand scheme of things? Or maybe he wasn't even

a

> he after all? An ape Empress maybe?
> >
> > Neil ----------------------------------------------
>
> *** Helen, in regards to Caesar's situation in that Breeding Annex
> scene, we have to remember that Caesar is trying to pretend that

he's

> just another non-evolved ape who can't speak English like his Ape-
> onaut parents. He MUST "fit in" to the Ape Management chimpanzee
> group. When he is brought to the Breeding Annex for the purpose of
> inseminating the female that had just arrived there --
>
> "Attention training control. Four females have arrived for
> insemination. Three gorillas and one chimpanzee. Please select

four

> superior males--three gorillas, one chimp--and send them to the
> Breeding Annex immediately." ("CONQUEST" novelization, page 78)
>
> -- he MUST do what would come "naturally" to any chimp-from-the-

wild.

> In John Jakes' novelization, he has Caesar notice [a large square

of

> black glass in one of the cage walls. The privacy of the shrubbery
> was a charade. But of course, the callous breeders--the genetic
> experts--would want to be sure the rutting took place. In order

that

> more slaves might be produced!] (pg. 79)

Yup - it's a stretch, but as we learned in "Back to the Future", you
can throw in about 50 different timelines if you want!

To me, Return does not, and SHOULD not, fit. But to each their own!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>

wrote:

> > Yeah - I'm saying that the events of "Return" could be set after
> Escape....ie where the ape revolution has changed dates - however

it

> means the Zira and Cornelius from Return are not OUR Zira and
> Cornelius, but cheap imitations! Maybe that explains the

different

> voices! ;) PATRICK?
> >
> > Michael
>
> *** WHAAAT?! Oh, trying to fit "Return" into the POTA movie/TV
> timeline...
>
> I don't think it's possible, guys & gals. Quite frankly, I CAN

make

> sense out of "Hasslein's Theory" (of Time, etc)... but "RETURN"

has

> something called "Doctor Stanton's theory of TIME-THRUST", and

I'll

> be jiggered if I can tell what the *&#$ Larry Spiegel meant by

that

> when he wrote "FLAMES OF DOOM"! It has something to do with

sending

> Man into the Future, but your standard Einsteinian time-dilation
> effects would do that too, at near-light velocities.

Just speak up if you want to see the first 3 pages.

I could only get Neil Foster to do the artwork though, so just
pretend you like the shoddy artwork, OK? ;)

You'll find "teasers" on the POTADG homepage:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/potadg

By the way, the person responsible for selling licences at Fox
believes she has found a company that wants to go ahead with a
regular Planet of the Apes comic book. The company I am having
discussions with is notorious for turning original comics into
movies/cartoons/tv movies. They are looking very closely at the new
comic as the basis for a new movie/cartoon/tv movie. Wish us luck!

Michael

.html.html In a message dated 12/14/2004 8:30:36 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

I know we only see scrolls on screen but I just find it hard to
believe that they haven't figured out how to bind a few pages
together and make books, using scrolls for everything written down
would just become too cumbersome in my opinion.

The APES do have books... They are in the episode "The Cure", and the novelizations explain the differences between "ape made" books, and the medical book in "The Surgeon"...

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.html.html In a message dated 12/14/2004 10:16:38 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Just speak up if you want to see the first 3 pages.

Show them...

<.html <.html

.html.html I can see your wanting to have a "conclusion" for the TV series characters, etc. BUT, a question first: Why did you choose to have your first TV series based comic be the "last"? I mean look at all the fan-fics on Kass' sight, and whatever else Dave B. can come up with... There are more stories that could have been told before you closed it out...<.html <.html

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In a message dated 12/14/2004 9:44:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

So did Roddy and Sal.....you're in good company!!!  ;)

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...>
wrote:

> like the apes in battle, i also chew nuts.

 

 

Yeah, I wasn't going to touch that one.

I've been kicked out for less.

<.html

Hey - say PLEASE!! ;)

Michael

> ----------
> From: mlccougar@...[SMTP:MLCCOUGAR@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 3:32:15 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Check out the "teasers" on the homepage!
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

In a message dated 12/14/2004 10:16:38 PM Central Standard Time,
Michael.Whitty@... writes:



Just speak up if you want to see the first 3 pages.



Show them...

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What competition?

<.html

Only when people were looking for an excuse to kick you out.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/14/2004 9:44:57 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
> So did Roddy and Sal.....you're in good company!!! ;)
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...>
> wrote:
>
> > like the apes in battle, i also chew nuts.
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, I wasn't going to touch that one.
> I've been kicked out for less.

For being the biggest jerk! ;) Hey, hang on - I won that one!

You won the competition for commenting on the "Within" strip.

Since then, you'll find the completed pages are now Printable
Downloadable Files, as you suggested you wanted.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> What competition?

I can't say much Cougar, but I think you will like how this develops.

"With each death, a new life is born".

"Don't judge a book by its cover".

Michael

> ----------
> From: mlccougar@...[SMTP:MLCCOUGAR@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 4:28:29 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Why "Going Home"?
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

I can see your wanting to have a "conclusion" for the TV series
characters,
etc. BUT, a question first: Why did you choose to have your first TV
series
based comic be the "last"? I mean look at all the fan-fics on Kass'
sight,
and whatever else Dave B. can come up with... There are more stories
that
could have been told before you closed it out...

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In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:42:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

For being the biggest jerk!  ;)  Hey, hang on - I won that one!

You won the competition for commenting on the "Within" strip.

 

Wasn't me.

I won the video clip one.

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In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:36:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

like the apes in battle, i also chew nuts.

 

 

Yeah, I wasn't going to touch that one.

I've been kicked out for less.

I'm glad someone did though.

 

<.html

Well, you just won another one.

Oh, the irony!

Hey Patrick - did you ever get your copy?

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: LordTZer0@...[SMTP:LORDTZER0@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 4:50:37 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Within - Competition Winner.
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:42:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Michael.Whitty@... writes:


For being the biggest jerk! ;) Hey, hang on - I won that one!

You won the competition for commenting on the "Within" strip.



Wasn't me.
I won the video clip one.

.html.html In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:55:43 PM Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Wasn't me.
I won the video clip one.

I'll take the prize then...<.html <.html

.html

In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:56:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Well, you just won another one.

Oh, the irony!

 

That's okay.

<.html

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In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:58:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

I'll take the prize then...

You can have it.

<.html

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In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:58:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

I'll take the prize then...

 

Seriously, Cougar can have the prize.

<.html

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Going Home/teaser.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>
Description : finished & rough pencils from the forthcoming comic

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Going%20Home/teaser.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> Okay, Lisa may belong to Mrs. Riley.

**** If that is Lisa.

>But then WHY is she working on the
> files at the Command Post or Ape Management or wherever?

**** Looking at the history of slavery in America one can see that
slaves were often hired and/or boarded out to others. That wasn't
uncommon at all. And with show or working animals, they are often
sent out with trainers and/or handlers. When someone OWNS an
animal, what's important is what is written on the papers.

>Only a few options
> make sense. She's just a loaner, or they get a discount is they

offer the

> assistance of their slaves doing menial work or in the breeding

program. Or . . .

> because she's been distracted lately by Caesar and his

shenanigans. and Mrs.

> Riley has sent her BACK to Ape Management for reconditioning.
>If that's the
> case then there's no real reason the chimpette in the Breeding

Annex can't

> be Lisa.

**** Could be. Might not be.

>Though that come-hither look

**** Yeah, the look my cows have when it's "that time." You guys
don't spend a lot of time around ANIMALS, do you? Apes may share
our DNA (as do other animals), but they are still ANIMALS.

>didn't seem like the sort of reaction
> that Lisa would give Caesar seeing him there.
> ...Apes did play other background roles.
> I know . . . it's a stretch, but so are all the movies.

**** B-I-N-G-O!!

I have to give you guys a lot of credit! I can't believe what you
both have accomplished here on the DG. Neil has become somewhat of
a Yahoo! technical nerd, and Michael is actually quite a talented
writer! The homepage is very good, the comics are quite an
enticement, and the behind-the-scenes stuff is going on un-noticed
and without [much] fanfare by all of us casual observers. I'm
impressed with how you have pulled all of this together and keep it
all fresh! Nice work, guys!

Oh, by the way, I like that scrolly thing on the homepage. Great
likenesses!

--Helen

Thanks Helen.

If you click on the scrolly thing you will see another new updated
teaser (that was only uploaded a few hours ago!).

Here's hoping soon you will see the first 3 pages too.

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:51:56 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Kudos to Michael and Neil!!!
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

I have to give you guys a lot of credit! I can't believe what you
both have accomplished here on the DG. Neil has become somewhat of
a Yahoo! technical nerd, and Michael is actually quite a talented
writer! The homepage is very good, the comics are quite an
enticement, and the behind-the-scenes stuff is going on un-noticed
and without [much] fanfare by all of us casual observers. I'm
impressed with how you have pulled all of this together and keep it
all fresh! Nice work, guys!

Oh, by the way, I like that scrolly thing on the homepage. Great
likenesses!

--Helen

In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:36:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

like the apes in battle, i also chew nuts.

 

 

Yeah, I wasn't going to touch that one.

I've been kicked out for less.

I'm glad someone did though.

 

go vegetarian!

Only when people were looking for an excuse to kick you out.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 12/14/2004 9:44:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
> So did  Roddy and Sal.....you're in good company!!!  ;)
>
> Michael
>
> ---  In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> 
> wrote:
>
> > like the apes in battle, i also chew  nuts.
>
>
> 
> 
> Yeah, I wasn't going to touch that one.
> I've been kicked out for less.

go vegetarian!

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In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:18:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:

ok, no i am not gay like brent.

but that was the phrase in the movie "chew nuts"

 

Really?  Where?

<.html

.html Caesar and Lisa could also adopt an orphaned ape. Elaine<.html

An orphaned child of refugees from the war zone. I can see them
doing that, Elaine. Traditionally, the chimpanzees are pacifists.

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> Caesar and Lisa could also adopt an orphaned ape. Elaine

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:18:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> brindlepit2002@y... writes:
>
> ok, no i am not gay like brent.
> but that was the phrase in the movie "chew nuts"
>
>
>
>
> Really? Where?

In Battle when McDonald is talking to Caesar about going to the
Forbidden City to find the archives of his parents. "Now we live...
and chew nuts at our master's command."
Kasey/Undomiel

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In a message dated 12/15/2004 12:21:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, elfgirl_06@... writes:

In Battle when McDonald is talking to Caesar about going to the
Forbidden City to find the archives of his parents. "Now we live...
and chew nuts at our master's command."

Yeah, I'm not going to touch that one either.

Even though it cry's out for it.  It's just too easy.

 

 

<.html

This set was just from the first movie, which would exclude those you
mentioned. Maybe they'll come out with apes from the other movies
later? The other orangutans would be cool (like Mikey said), but at
$45 a crack? That would have been a good idea for the Medicoms (and
get them at toyzz.com for $4!)

Doesn't anyone know if this is series 1 with more to follow, or is
this it? Maybe it depends on sales, I guess.

John O.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> Sideshow should create all the major ape characters. I would also
like to see
> Julius made. I ordered the marauding gorilla but individual
gorillas should
> be made, Ursus, Urko, Aldo etc.
> Elaine

Yeah, and just to mix it up a bit, make it a gorilla child!

John O.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

>
> An orphaned child of refugees from the war zone. I can see them
> doing that, Elaine. Traditionally, the chimpanzees are pacifists.
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > Caesar and Lisa could also adopt an orphaned ape. Elaine

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> Thanks for uploading another strip, Neil (and thanks to Mike as

well). Things are moving along. I'm now guessing that this story
takes place prior to Planet, and that we're seeing the reason for the
hunt that captures Taylor.

***I'll buy that for a dollar.

Still, I'm wondering when we'll see those objects from the time
capsule re-enter the story and what effect they'll have on Ursus and
Marcus.

*** I don't get it. In strip 10, Marcus comes to Ursus talking of
rumors of a discovery that could help Ursus' proposal for an army.
Then in strip 11, it seems that Marcus has already told Ursus what
the rumors are. I assumed the discovery he was talking about was the
book of evolution? I figured enough time had passed between strip 8
and 9 that word would have gotten back to the city. Although I'm not
sure why the book would help the proposal for the army. If not, WHAT
was the other discovery? When can we see the 'lost' 10.5 strip?

John O.

Patrick, are you subscribing to the circular timeline? Or a circular
with diversion then merger timeline?

What about when Cornelius is explaining his finds at the cave in
Planet - when he says the finding at this level date back some 1300
years... a stage of primitive barbarism. If they could speak for 700
years, I doubt they would still be in this stage. This would back up
his "statements to Hasslein's interrogators about there being
centuries between the enslavement of Apes and their achievement of
speech."

John O.




-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

>
> P.S. I don't think "ESCAPE" changed any "ape revolution" dates,

since

> Cornelius' testimony to the Commission reveals that English has

been

> the language of his ancestors for "two thousand years, roughly".

That

> means that there were talking apes around since the 20th Century,

as

> opposed to his later statements to Hasslein's interrogators about
> there being centuries between the enslavement of Apes and their
> achievement of speech. Aldo didn't "happen" five centuries after

the

> Pet Plague, folks... he came on the scene around five YEARS after
> that!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@Y...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 12:30:23 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I am wondering why you wrote...
> > > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> > >
> >
> > Are you talking about the original five movies? IMHO if they

don't

> > all occur in the same timeline, then any prequels, sequels, etc.,
> > could occur anywhere out there -- as POTA2001 did -- and still be
> > POTA! I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I'd rather that any
> > future stuff "fit."
> >
> > --Helen
> >
> > (Is there such a word as universes?)
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> > <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Or you COULD assume we are dealing with more than one timeline,
> > and
> > > therefore place these events after the first movie, I guess?
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > > > In a message dated 12/12/2004 12:51:52 PM Central Standard
> Time,
> > > > veetus@e... writes:
> > > >
> > > > > In my chronology I tried to use the dates as given. Then

you

> > > only have to assume the chronology in the first film is wrong.

I didn't think you were gay, RobRon (and nor would it matter of you
are).

I grew up on Benny Hill and I find it almost impossible to miss a sexual
innuendo - sorry!

Michael

>
> ----------
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ok, no i am not gay like brent.
but that was the phrase in the movie "chew nuts"

LordTZer0@... wrote:


In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:36:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:



like the apes in battle, i also chew nuts.



Yeah, I wasn't going to touch that one.
I've been kicked out for less.

I'm glad someone did though.





go vegetarian

OK - I'm not gonna go anywhere NEAR that one!

Jeff will though I'm POSITIVE!

Michael

>
> ----------
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:18:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> brindlepit2002@y... writes:
>
> ok, no i am not gay like brent.
> but that was the phrase in the movie "chew nuts"
>
>
>
>
> Really? Where?

In Battle when McDonald is talking to Caesar about going to the
Forbidden City to find the archives of his parents. "Now we live...
and chew nuts at our master's command."
Kasey/Undomiel

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In a message dated 12/15/2004 3:29:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

I grew up on Benny Hill and I find it almost impossible to miss a sexual
innuendo - sorry!

 

"Ho ho ho . . . A cheap sexual allusion makes the world go round."

                                   ~~~Michael Palin of Monty Python~~~~

 

Disclaimer  --  WARNING  -- Using this quote can get you in trouble.

Especially with Feminists.

 

 

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:)

Whitty

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In a message dated 12/15/2004 3:29:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

I grew up on Benny Hill and I find it almost impossible to miss a sexual
innuendo - sorry!


"Ho ho ho . . . A cheap sexual allusion makes the world go round."
~~~Michael Palin of Monty Python~~~~

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Wow!

 

The artwork looks great.

Better than some "so called"

professionally draw comic books.

 

 

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I can't wait for the next installment of this and Within. Looks
awesome.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> Wow!
>
> The artwork looks great.
> Better than some "so called"
> professionally draw comic books.

.html.html In a message dated 12/15/2004 9:30:26 AM Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

Sideshow should create all the major ape characters. I would also like to see Julius made. I ordered the marauding gorilla but individual gorillas should be made, Ursus, Urko, Aldo etc.

This all sounds good when it's said here, but look, does anyone here (other than a few) have the room and/or money to collect "all the major ape characters" if they'd ever be made available? My guess is no... They should just concentrate on doing a few of them really well, rather than have every ape that was ever on screen made into a figure... And how "major" would you be going? Every ape that was on the screen or said a word of dialog? Be realistic when you say these things... People may say "Oh, I'd buy them if they were available..." and then they never follow thru... Talk is cheap... Just look at the Rittenhouse cards... "Everyone" was saying how they want them, how they'd buy them, etc. etc. and look: 999 sets of cards didn't even manage to sell out...

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.html.html In a message dated 12/15/04 10:45:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

This all sounds good when it's said here, but look, does anyone here (other than a few) have the room and/or money to collect "all the major ape characters" if they'd ever be made available?

Not at nearly $50 a pop.  It's a little insane, especially when you think, as I do, is this POTA or is it just a piece of plastic, with about as much connection with a movie made thirty-six years ago as I do with a rock on the moon?  Maybe I'm just getting old, but more and more I'm caring less and less about this stuff.  I prefer my memories of when I was a kid and going to the movies to that of some hunk of plastic.

-- Rory<.html <.html

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> The artwork looks great.Better than some "so called" professionally

draw comic books.

I agree!!! These drawings put any ADVENTURE sh*t to shame and more!

Excellent !!! BRavo!!!

Tim


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.html I can see them adopting an orphan. To make it more interesting, they might adopt an orphaned gorilla or orangutan. Elaine<.html

.html.html In a message dated 12/15/2004 11:39:26 PM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

Excellent !!! BRavo!!!

Tim

Agreed...

While I don't know if I like the idea of an "intact" Human City, I am curious to see where the story might go... (I am somewhat against the idea of Humanity having survived like that, I mean in all the time, you'd have to think the Apes would have crossed paths with that... True, it's Virdon's "dream" to find a city like that, but to me, it seemed unfeasible...)

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.html There sounds like quite a few people collect action figures here besides myself. The figures are my favorite collectables, especially the mego figures. Star Wars has an action figure of every character that has walked across the screen so why can't pota? Elaine<.html

.html I'm misty eyed, Rory. There is a poet in you. Elaine <.html

.html.html In a message dated 12/16/2004 12:18:22 AM Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

Star Wars has an action figure of every character that has walked across the screen so why can't POTA?

Well, the majority of SW figures are 3 3/4" NOT 12" tall!! It's a lot easier to display a bunch of small figures than 12" figures... Space requirements alone for "every ape" that was on screen would be ridiculous... Had "every ape" been made 3 3/4" inch like SW or 6" like Medicoms (or even 8" like MEGO), then it'd be something different... That "would" be feasible... But you're talking 12" figures? Where the hell could you fit them all!?

And as for your question of "why shouldn't every ape be made if every SW character was"... I'll tell you: Because APES deserves dignity... APES doesn't need to be bled (merchandised) to death... They did that in the 70s and look at some of the sh*t that was made... Wouldn't you rather see a few excellent quality APES items made, than a sh*t load of stuff that will look bad, and bring the APES name down a notch because all they'll see it as is mindless crap being thrown out to make a buck?

And, btw, I collect APES action figures... But I guess I'd rather keep my head in reality and have a few good ones made, than living in this fantasy world of $50 figures that will never be made anyway...

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Whoa! Unexpected and dramatic. I can't wait to see where this is
going!

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/15/2004 11:39:26 PM Central Standard Time,
> apefan23@y... writes:
>
> > Excellent !!! BRavo!!!
> >
> > Tim
>
> Agreed...
>
> While I don't know if I like the idea of an "intact" Human City, I
am curious
> to see where the story might go... (I am somewhat against the idea
of
> Humanity having survived like that, I mean in all the time, you'd
have to think the
> Apes would have crossed paths with that... True, it's
Virdon's "dream" to find
> a city like that, but to me, it seemed unfeasible...)

Thanks to Greg P., Marvel UK issue 9 is now available (a day early).

http://www.goatley.com/pota/

Note: the system hosting my web site is having some hardware problems.
It's due to be replaced sometime between Christmas and New Year's,
hopefully. I'll be on vacation during that time, so it's possible
that my Apes page will be inaccessible for a while during the holidays.
But it will be back....

Hunter

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In a message dated 12/16/2004 12:23:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

I'm misty eyed, Rory. There is a poet in you. Elaine

 

I can understand Rory's frustration.

He can't even get a scanner and all

these THINGS are coming out.  Luckily,

I only collect the characters I like.  So

I'm never bothered about trying to get

complete collections.

<.html

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
 
> The artwork looks great.Better than some "so called" professionally
draw comic books.

I agree!!! These drawings put any ADVENTURE sh*t to shame and more!

go vegetarian!

I didn't think you were gay, RobRon (and nor would it matter of you
are).

I grew up on Benny Hill and I find it almost impossible to miss a sexual
innuendo - sorry!

Michael

>
> ----------
> From:       ron kenner[SMTP:BRINDLEPIT2002@...]
> Sent:       Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:17:03 AM
> To:       PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:       Re: [PotaDG] Re: children of the apes
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>
ok, no i am not gay like brent.
but that was the phrase in the movie "chew nuts"

LordTZer0@... wrote:


In a message dated 12/14/2004 11:36:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
LordTZer0@... writes:



like the apes in battle, i also chew nuts.



Yeah, I wasn't going to touch that one.
I've been kicked out for less.

I'm glad someone did though.





go vegetarian

go vegetarian!

.html There is nothing like the memory of seeing pota for the first time. for me it was Conquest at a drive in. Collectibles can't compare to that. Elaine<.html

Wow! I finally had time to look at this and "Within". Amazing work,
guys. And they very definitely have the Apes look and feel. Thanks
for sharing them!

"Going Home" reminds me of something I always find funny about the TV
Series. Gorillas must have gotten a lot weaker over the years,
because there's no way Virdon and Burke could beat up so many gorillas
so easily. 8-)

Hunter

.html.html In a message dated 12/16/04 10:29:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:

hey rory-
i was recently reading on e of the marvel/curtis mags and found a letter written by YOU!
it was awesome.
do you still live down there in florida? that's minutes away from where i grew up.
rob/ron

Unfortunately, I still live in Ft. Lauderdale.  I left for about ten years, but came back.  Now I'm ready to get out again.

I had a couple letters published in that Marvel mag.  I was sad when it folded.  That was the end of the original POTA phenomenon.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Yeah - I'm a sirry iriot. ;)

>
> ----------
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no offence was taken;
i also grew up with mr hill...

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

I didn't think you were gay, RobRon (and nor would it matter of you
are).

I grew up on Benny Hill and I find it almost impossible to miss a sexual
innuendo - sorry!

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: ron kenner[SMTP:BRINDLEPIT2002@...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:17:03 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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ok, no i am not gay like brent.
but that was the phrase in the movie "chew nuts"

Some good points Greg.

To be consistent I think we need to simply have reference to a SF that
we all recognise. I pained with this one actually, but then I think
most of the problems with POTA scripting occur when an explanation is
offered. It is more fun to leave the reader wondering.

Perhaps San Fran is wiped out with a different technology (germ
warfare?) at the turn of the century, justifying a city close to what we
know. Perhaps regulations will come in force that attempt to preserve
the "classic" look of some cities (to the point of even re-doing
buildings as they originally looked). Maybe cities go underground for
various reasons and the new cities are "BENEATH" the Planet of the Apes!
There are endless places for the imagination to take us.

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: Greg Plonowski[SMTP:URKO3085@...]
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 4:05:43 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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I for one hope we get to see lots more of the ruins of San Fransisco.
Knowing the amount of research that Neil did to get the interior of
Brent's
ship right for BtB, I can only imagine what he's done for the city.
Although
of course there would have been some changes to the city over the 500
years
or so between when Alan lived there and when the city was destroyed (or
partially destroyed, given Galen's comment). Since Galen's never seen an
intact human city I'm guessing it just looks to him like the city's in
better shape than the cities he saw in The Trap or The Legacy, not that
the
city is perfectly preserved and still inhabited by advanced humans.

Greg P.

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--

These gorillas are suffering from fatigue! ;)

Michael

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Wow! I finally had time to look at this and "Within". Amazing work,
guys. And they very definitely have the Apes look and feel. Thanks
for sharing them!

"Going Home" reminds me of something I always find funny about the TV
Series. Gorillas must have gotten a lot weaker over the years,
because there's no way Virdon and Burke could beat up so many gorillas
so easily. 8-)

Hunter

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In a message dated 12/16/2004 2:11:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Unfortunately, I still live in Ft. Lauderdale.  I left for about ten years, but came back.  Now I'm ready to get out again.

 

That's an interesting OT Topic.

If you could live anywhere,

where would you live?  The

DFW Metroplex's main

attraction is that it makes

other places seem interesting

by comparison.  Mostly flat,

it's like a 1000 square miles

of Malls and Restaurants.

Any place that has a beach

or mountains seems like a

paradise compared to this

steel, glass and concrete

solar furnace in the Summer,

and no, it's not a dry heat.

 

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Hi Gang, Been gone a while and came back to find the excellent comin (
Going Home ) I loved the TV series so to me this is awesome! Good Job
Guys!

Mark

Who is drawing this stuff? You guys should be
published!

Chris Hight



__________________________________

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In a message dated 12/16/2004 5:35:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, snickertown@... writes:

Who is drawing this stuff? You guys should be
published!

 

Then we'd have to pay some money mad grown-up!

 

Sorry, I thought I was Lucius for a second there.

Not sure what the market is like these days.

But probably everyone who'd buy is in this group

 

.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> Since Galen's never seen an intact human city I'm guessing it just

looks to him like the city's in better shape than the cities he saw
in The Trap or The Legacy, not that the city is perfectly preserved
and still inhabited by advanced humans.

-- The cities we saw in those episodes didn't look to bad from a
distance so who knows, maybe when (or if) they get in the city
things may not be so intact?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:

> There is nothing like the memory of seeing pota for the first

time. for me it was Conquest at a drive in. Collectibles can't
compare to that.

-- How true, the first one I saw was Escape when it came out. I was
totally blown away when they took off their space helmets on the
beach as I never knew about 'Apes' before this.

Then I had to wait a few years before Apes popped up again on TV in
England closely followed by seeing Planet at the cinema on a double
bill with Escape again.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...>
wrote:

> "Going Home" reminds me of something I always find funny about the

TV Series. Gorillas must have gotten a lot weaker over the years,
because there's no way Virdon and Burke could beat up so many
gorillas so easily. 8-)

-- That always amused me as well but as we are going for an
authentic look and feel we have to do the same.

Maybe it's just the way and where they hit them? They do have all
that 20th century astronaut training remember ;-)

Thanks again for the latest UK comic Greg and Hunter.

Neil

> -- That always amused me as well but as we are going for an
> authentic look and feel we have to do the same.

Oh, of course.

> Maybe it's just the way and where they hit them? They do have all
> that 20th century astronaut training remember ;-)

Good point! 8-)

Hunter

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> Not sure what the market is like these days. But probably everyone

who'd buy is in this group

-- Very sad but probably also very true!

Neil

I'm not sure about that.

Didn't the "Adventure" comics' first instalment smash a few records?
Then suddenly the buyers realised "these are rubbish" and stopped buying
(yes, Urchak was great and there were SOME good stories, but
overall....).

Also, I think a TV Show comic would be lapped up in the UK.

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: LordTZer0@...[SMTP:LORDTZER0@...]
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 10:44:12 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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In a message dated 12/16/2004 5:35:34 P.M. Central Standard Time,
snickertown@... writes:

Who is drawing this stuff? You guys should be
published!


Then we'd have to pay some money mad grown-up!

Sorry, I thought I was Lucius for a second there.
Not sure what the market is like these days.
But probably everyone who'd buy is in this group

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Also, I think a TV Show comic would be lapped up in the UK.

-- Actually I never thought about that. The UK always has had a very
loyal following for the TV series (I was one of them!)
They did get those 3 hardback annuals after all and Simian Scrolls
is quite popular over there I believe?

neil

.html.html In a message dated 12/16/04 7:14:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

taebokitti@a... wrote:
> There is nothing like the memory of seeing pota for the first
time. for me it was Conquest at a drive in.

I first saw CONQUEST at a drive-in too, the only APES movie I ever saw at a drive-in.  I taped the movie too, onto cassette off one of those speakers you hung on the car window.  August 1972.  I was 13.

-- Rory

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In a message dated 12/16/04 7:14:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

taebokitti@a... wrote:
> There is nothing like the memory of seeing pota for the first
time. for me it was Conquest at a drive in.

I first saw CONQUEST at a drive-in too, the only APES movie I ever saw at a drive-in.  I taped the movie too, onto cassette off one of those speakers you hung on the car window.  August 1972.  I was 13.

-- Rory

go vegetarian!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...>
wrote:

> i first saw it on video, right when it was first released. (83?)

-- Conquest was actually the last Apes film I got to see. I finally
got to see it when we were on holiday in the US in about '78. We
were staying at my cousins' place at Vero beach. I got to sleep on a
pull out bed in the den which was lucky as they had a TV in there
and I saw it one night when it was showing as the late movie.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

>I taped the movie too, onto cassette off one of those speakers you

hung on the car window.

-- Ha! That sort of brings back memories. When Beneath was first on
TV in the UK I sat through the whole thing with a cassette recorder
up at the speaker and taped the whole thing. It wasn't too bad a
recording either, I got most of the add breaks cut out pretty well
and even didn't miss that much when I flipped the tape over at the
end of side one.

I listened to that tape for weeks after that replaying the movie in
my mind. We are so much luckier these days with DVDs and videos but
I wish I still had that cassette tape!

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 12/16/2004 11:24:25 AM Central Standard Time, goathunter@... writes:

Gorillas must have gotten a lot weaker over the years,
because there's no way Virdon and Burke could beat up so many gorillas
so easily. 8-)

That's the one thing I don't like in the series, and I am glad when it came time, Mark Lenard "put his foot down" and said "no" to having Urko beat up by Burke... Lenard thought it was b.s. that they'd have the Humans able to beat up an Ape...

It irks me that in that series, the Fugitives have a hard time holding their own against an average sized Human, but they can single-handedly take on an armed Gorilla...

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.html.html In a message dated 12/16/2004 2:43:44 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Perhaps San Fran is wiped out with a different technology (germ
warfare?) at the turn of the century, justifying a city close to what we
know.

If you read the novelization of "The Trap", it says in there how the city (Oakland) was almost unrecognizable to them due to the fact that the buildings, etc. were built so long after they left on their mission... So, going by that reference, you have to know that the cities they would encounter in their journeys would be quite different looking than what we might know... (You might say the sets in the episodes look like present day cities, which may be true, BUT you have to remember that they were shooting on a budget, and they just used those sets to give an appearance of a bombed <nuked> out city... It was meant to be future city though...)

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.html.html In a message dated 12/16/2004 9:52:36 PM Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

If you read the novelization of "The Trap",

I meant the novelization of "The Legacy"!!!<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 12/16/04 9:32:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

I listened to that tape for weeks after that replaying the movie in
my mind. We are so much luckier these days with DVDs and videos but
I wish I still had that cassette tape!

Neil

I don't miss my cassette tapes, and no matter how nostalgic I get for the days of my childhood, I'm still very glad for the DVDs and widescreen TVs of today.  As a film buff these are the best of times, right Michael Whitty?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html Look at this picture... There is a SCI-FI Channel logo on it!!! Evans was deceased before that network ever existed, yet he signed a photo with it's logo on it? Someone on eBay had better get their sh*t straight...



eBay item 3860025630 (Ends Dec-19-04 14:51:00 PST) - MAURICE EVANS SIGNED BENEATH THE PLANET OF APES <.html<.html

.html After seeing Conquest in July, I read Bouille's book in the fall and fortunately the original movie was playing in a theater around Christmas. I wasn't able to buy any action figures until the TV show came out. Elaine<.html

.html Maybe Burke and Virdon are in great shape due to their training at NASA and the gorillas don't work out and exercise enough. Like humans, maybe at the end of the day the gorillas go to the bar, have a few beers, smoke heavily etc. The two astronauts are constantly walking and eating vegetarian probably. Their health is most likely is good and they have to rise to the challenge when fighting gorillas. Elaine<.html

.html.html In a message dated 12/16/2004 11:29:10 PM Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

Maybe Burke and Virdon are in great shape due to their training at NASA and the gorillas don't work out and exercise enough. Like humans, maybe at the end of the day the gorillas go to the bar, have a few beers, smoke heavily etc. The two astronauts are constantly walking and eating vegetarian probably. Their health is most likely is good and they have to rise to the challenge when fighting gorillas.

You are kidding right? If not, what you say is a joke, in very poor taste...

I mean even in it's worst shape any Gorilla can easily tear a man apart... They (Burke and Virdon) are usually "beating up" Soldiers and Police Gorillas, Gorillas which would probably be in "good physical shape" due to their militaristic style of training, and (since you said it about the astronauts,) the Gorillas vegetarian diet... Gorillas are naturally stronger than humans, and that would never change...

As far as the astronauts, if anything, what you say about them would actually work against them... I mean since they're constantly on the run, it may be days before they even find a source of food, and when they do, it may not have much nutritional value anyway... The actors potraying them stayed "fit" because they went home to meals etc. every night... But think if those two really were men on the run... Do you really think they'd be that fit? No way... Whatever food they would manage to eat would be burned off right away due to their constantly moving... They'd end up as skin and bones more than likely... Gorilla fighters, no way...

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Hi all,

I just wanted to tell everyone that even though there's going to be a bit
of a wait, you will all appreciated the expanded version of Dave
Ballard's 'Beware the Beast' story that recently concluded here on the
DG. Michael sent me completed copies of both issues, and in addition to
being able to read the whole story in one go, there are quite a few pages
of additional material that serve to tie BtB to the POTA universe as
we've come to know it. I'm not going to spoil the surprise(s) for anyone,
but one sequence in particular is something that most of us have imagined
at one time or another. So it was really cool to see it happening-
simultaneously- with the rest of the story. There's also one panel in
particular I found to be a little chilling in the way it brought
everything full circle in terms of the overall story in BENEATH.

So it bears repeating: kudos to everyone involved in bringing this story
to life. You've dome something to be proud of.


Chris L.

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Oh yeah! Unless you get shoddy DVDs like the Aus release of Life of
Brian! That was dubbed from a video store VHS Hire tape!

But generally, it is great to have the space and acpabilityu to do what
we can now do!

Michael

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In a message dated 12/16/04 9:32:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
nfoster@... writes:




I listened to that tape for weeks after that replaying the movie in
my mind. We are so much luckier these days with DVDs and videos but
I wish I still had that cassette tape!

Neil




I don't miss my cassette tapes, and no matter how nostalgic I get for
the
days of my childhood, I'm still very glad for the DVDs and widescreen
TVs of
today. As a film buff these are the best of times, right Michael
Whitty?

-- Rory

I mean CAPACITY! :-0

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Oh yeah! Unless you get shoddy DVDs like the Aus release of Life of
Brian! That was dubbed from a video store VHS Hire tape!

But generally, it is great to have the space and acpabilityu to do what
we can now do!

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: Haristas@...[SMTP:HARISTAS@...]
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In a message dated 12/16/04 9:32:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
nfoster@... writes:




I listened to that tape for weeks after that replaying the movie in
my mind. We are so much luckier these days with DVDs and videos but
I wish I still had that cassette tape!

Neil




I don't miss my cassette tapes, and no matter how nostalgic I get for
the
days of my childhood, I'm still very glad for the DVDs and widescreen
TVs of
today. As a film buff these are the best of times, right Michael
Whitty?

-- Rory











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