>
> Robin is the daughter of Roy Kabat, the animal furnisher for Escape
> from the Planet of the Apes and Dr. Dolittle, among other films.
> Mr. Kabat worked with American Humane to establish the first

> dog program. Robin now heads Dogs for the Deaf.

>
> There is a more proper welcome! You must not have much trouble
> finding us! You got here before I did.
>
> The kids are here with me. They all say "hi."
>
> I posted a message a couple minutes ago. Did you find that?

> I post it again? We can start from here if you like.
>
> Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Helen, I am here. This didn't sound like the message

> > me, but I thought I would reply anyway and let you know I was

> >
> > Robin
> >

>
> Yes, hello and welcome to the PotA DG. We're all thrilled to have
> you as a guest.
> Kasey/Undomiel
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > There is a more proper welcome! You must not have much trouble
> > finding us! You got here before I did.
> >
> > The kids are here with me. They all say "hi."
> >
> > I posted a message a couple minutes ago. Did you find that?
> Should
> > I post it again? We can start from here if you like.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Helen, I am here. This didn't sound like the message
> welcoming
> > > me, but I thought I would reply anyway and let you know I was
> here.
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> Welcome Robin! We have been looking forward to talking with you.
Elaine

>
> Hello and thank you for the welcome. This sounds like an interesting
> group. As I told Helen, I was not around my father when the filming
> of Planet of the Apes took place, but I would love to answer
> questions about Dogs for the Deaf, etc.

>
> If a deaf person wanted or needed to get a dog to help them out

> would they have to do? What types of tasks do the dogs preform for
> their people? At what age do you start training the dogs? If

> wanted to get involved in helping with something like this how

> they go about doing it?
> Kasey/Undomiel

>
> Hi All,
>
> Robin is still on-line, but it appears that Yahoo (West Coast) is
> working a bit slowly. We're trying to iron things out...
>
> All is well.
>
> Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I have to get going now and get to work. I hope Robin is able to
return
> sometime and discuss her work with us. Elaine

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario <ev001@n...> wrote:

Hi,

Dario from Canada here. I've never heard of "Dogs for the Deaf". Is
it
something only in the US or are there other countries participating?

>
> Hello and thank you for the welcome. This sounds like an
interesting
> group. As I told Helen, I was not around my father when the
filming
> of Planet of the Apes took place, but I would love to answer
> questions about Dogs for the Deaf, etc.
--- End forwarded message ---

>
> Hello and thank you for the welcome. This sounds like an

> group. As I told Helen, I was not around my father when the filming
> of Planet of the Apes took place, but I would love to answer
> questions about Dogs for the Deaf, etc.

>
> After my family visited with you, we all thought it would have been
> fun to talk a little bit about your experiences with the "big cats"
> and the elephants. How young were you when you lived amongst the
> animals? Can you somehow briefly encapsulate your time at
> JungleLand? Is there one (or two) experiences that you found
> particularly memorable or impressive as a child?
>
> Helen

>
> Good bye Elaine. I'm still here, Robin. --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > I have to get going now and get to work. I hope Robin is able to
> return
> > sometime and discuss her work with us. Elaine

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Helen,
>
> Living at Jungleland as a child was a great experience. We
actually
> lived on the premesis from about 1956-1958. I loved it.
>
> One Christmas eve, a lioness had two cubs. She killed one, which
was
> not uncommon in those days with big cats in captivity, and the
> trainer got the other one out. My father brought it to the house
and
> I hand raised Honey, as I named her. She lived in the house with
us
> until she was just over a year old. Then she went into training.
>
> My favorite, though, was the elephants. In those days, very
little
> was done with African elephants. We had one African and the rest
> were Indian elephants. I loved working with them and playing with
> them. I had my own elephant act with one of the younger elephants
> that I performed at Jungleland and on the TV show my dad produced
on
> KTLA in Los Angeles called Circus. The Ringmaster was Dick Lane
of
> Rollerderby fame.
>
> I also had a liberty pony act that I enjoyed working with and
> performing with. This is where the ponies are loose and run
around
> the ring and do different tricks depending on what the trainer
wants
> them to do.
>
> Being the "ham" that I am, I enjoyed working with these animals
and
> performing with them.
>
> I also sold tickets and worked in the gift shop at Jungleland. It
> was excellent training. I learned so much about animals from all
the
> different trainers at Jungleland. There were all great to me and
> very patient. The only trainer I did not like was Mable Stark.
At
> the time, she was the world's only woman tiger trainer. She worked
at
> Jungleland many years and I was scared to death of her. She was
very
> ornery and mean.
>
> One time my dad had an elephant at a fund raiser Easter egg hunt
for
> some group. I rode on the elephant during the egg hunt, and I
could
> see all the eggs from my high vantage point!
>
> It was not a normal childhood, but it was a fun one.
>
> If anyone has any specific questions, let me know.
>
> Robin --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> >
> > After my family visited with you, we all thought it would have
been
> > fun to talk a little bit about your experiences with the "big
cats"
> > and the elephants. How young were you when you lived amongst
the
> > animals? Can you somehow briefly encapsulate your time at
> > JungleLand? Is there one (or two) experiences that you found
> > particularly memorable or impressive as a child?
> >
> > Helen

>
> From: Dario <ev001@n...>
> Date: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:37 pm
> Subject: Hi Robin!!
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Dario from Canada here. I've never heard of "Dogs for the Deaf". Is
> it
> something only in the US or are there other countries participating?
>
> >
> > Hello and thank you for the welcome. This sounds like an
> interesting
> > group. As I told Helen, I was not around my father when the

> > of Planet of the Apes took place, but I would love to answer
> > questions about Dogs for the Deaf, etc.

>
> This is the kind of life most children pretend! That is so cool.
> We are actually reading your reply one by one here and the kids

> get back with questions in a bit...
>
> Isn't funny that, having grown up with the exotic animals, you

> up devoting your life to working with "Man's best friend!" That's
> neat. How did it come about that you decided to work with Dogs

> the Deaf?
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Helen,
> >
> > Living at Jungleland as a child was a great experience. We
> actually
> > lived on the premesis from about 1956-1958. I loved it.
> >
> > One Christmas eve, a lioness had two cubs. She killed one,

> was
> > not uncommon in those days with big cats in captivity, and the
> > trainer got the other one out. My father brought it to the

> and
> > I hand raised Honey, as I named her. She lived in the house

> us
> > until she was just over a year old. Then she went into

> >
> > My favorite, though, was the elephants. In those days, very
> little
> > was done with African elephants. We had one African and the

> > were Indian elephants. I loved working with them and playing

> > them. I had my own elephant act with one of the younger

> > that I performed at Jungleland and on the TV show my dad

> on
> > KTLA in Los Angeles called Circus. The Ringmaster was Dick Lane
> of
> > Rollerderby fame.
> >
> > I also had a liberty pony act that I enjoyed working with and
> > performing with. This is where the ponies are loose and run
> around
> > the ring and do different tricks depending on what the trainer
> wants
> > them to do.
> >
> > Being the "ham" that I am, I enjoyed working with these animals
> and
> > performing with them.
> >
> > I also sold tickets and worked in the gift shop at Jungleland.

> > was excellent training. I learned so much about animals from

> the
> > different trainers at Jungleland. There were all great to me

> > very patient. The only trainer I did not like was Mable Stark.
> At
> > the time, she was the world's only woman tiger trainer. She

> at
> > Jungleland many years and I was scared to death of her. She was
> very
> > ornery and mean.
> >
> > One time my dad had an elephant at a fund raiser Easter egg hunt
> for
> > some group. I rode on the elephant during the egg hunt, and I
> could
> > see all the eggs from my high vantage point!
> >
> > It was not a normal childhood, but it was a fun one.
> >
> > If anyone has any specific questions, let me know.
> >
> > Robin --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > After my family visited with you, we all thought it would have
> been
> > > fun to talk a little bit about your experiences with the "big
> cats"
> > > and the elephants. How young were you when you lived amongst
> the
> > > animals? Can you somehow briefly encapsulate your time at
> > > JungleLand? Is there one (or two) experiences that you found
> > > particularly memorable or impressive as a child?
> > >
> > > Helen

>
> Ashley says: "You mentioned the Liberty Pony Act and the elephant
> act. Did you ever actually train any of the animals yourself?

> if you did, how did you do it?"
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > This is the kind of life most children pretend! That is so

> > We are actually reading your reply one by one here and the kids
> will
> > get back with questions in a bit...
> >
> > Isn't funny that, having grown up with the exotic animals, you
> ended
> > up devoting your life to working with "Man's best friend!"

> > neat. How did it come about that you decided to work with Dogs
> for
> > the Deaf?
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Helen,
> > >
> > > Living at Jungleland as a child was a great experience. We
> > actually
> > > lived on the premesis from about 1956-1958. I loved it.
> > >
> > > One Christmas eve, a lioness had two cubs. She killed one,
> which
> > was
> > > not uncommon in those days with big cats in captivity, and the
> > > trainer got the other one out. My father brought it to the
> house
> > and
> > > I hand raised Honey, as I named her. She lived in the house
> with
> > us
> > > until she was just over a year old. Then she went into
> training.
> > >
> > > My favorite, though, was the elephants. In those days, very
> > little
> > > was done with African elephants. We had one African and the
> rest
> > > were Indian elephants. I loved working with them and playing
> with
> > > them. I had my own elephant act with one of the younger
> elephants
> > > that I performed at Jungleland and on the TV show my dad
> produced
> > on
> > > KTLA in Los Angeles called Circus. The Ringmaster was Dick

> > of
> > > Rollerderby fame.
> > >
> > > I also had a liberty pony act that I enjoyed working with and
> > > performing with. This is where the ponies are loose and run
> > around
> > > the ring and do different tricks depending on what the trainer
> > wants
> > > them to do.
> > >
> > > Being the "ham" that I am, I enjoyed working with these animals
> > and
> > > performing with them.
> > >
> > > I also sold tickets and worked in the gift shop at Jungleland.
> It
> > > was excellent training. I learned so much about animals from
> all
> > the
> > > different trainers at Jungleland. There were all great to me
> and
> > > very patient. The only trainer I did not like was Mable

> > At
> > > the time, she was the world's only woman tiger trainer. She
> worked
> > at
> > > Jungleland many years and I was scared to death of her. She

> > very
> > > ornery and mean.
> > >
> > > One time my dad had an elephant at a fund raiser Easter egg

> > for
> > > some group. I rode on the elephant during the egg hunt, and I
> > could
> > > see all the eggs from my high vantage point!
> > >
> > > It was not a normal childhood, but it was a fun one.
> > >
> > > If anyone has any specific questions, let me know.
> > >
> > > Robin --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > > <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > After my family visited with you, we all thought it would

> > been
> > > > fun to talk a little bit about your experiences with the "big
> > cats"
> > > > and the elephants. How young were you when you lived amongst
> > the
> > > > animals? Can you somehow briefly encapsulate your time at
> > > > JungleLand? Is there one (or two) experiences that you found
> > > > particularly memorable or impressive as a child?
> > > >
> > > > Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ashley,
>
> I worked with the trainers and they helped me. I taught the
> different animals a lot of the things, with the help of the adult
> trainers. They were my mentors.
>
> Remember, this was back in the 50's and animal training methods
were
> more compulive back then than they are now. We were never mean,
and
> never hurt the animals, but animal care and training was very
> different from what it is now. The exotics lived in cages back
then
> instead of "habitats" like they do now.
>
> With the liberty pony act, we used lunge lines and lunge whips to
> train the animals. With the elephants, we used the traditional
> elephant hook, which, when used properly is not inhumane. When
you
> have something as big as an elephant, you need to have control!
>
> Hope this answers your questions.
>
> Robin
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ashley says: "You mentioned the Liberty Pony Act and the
elephant
> > act. Did you ever actually train any of the animals yourself?
> And,
> > if you did, how did you do it?"
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > This is the kind of life most children pretend! That is so
> cool.
> > > We are actually reading your reply one by one here and the
kids
> > will
> > > get back with questions in a bit...
> > >
> > > Isn't funny that, having grown up with the exotic animals, you
> > ended
> > > up devoting your life to working with "Man's best friend!"
> That's
> > > neat. How did it come about that you decided to work with
Dogs
> > for
> > > the Deaf?
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Helen,
> > > >
> > > > Living at Jungleland as a child was a great experience. We
> > > actually
> > > > lived on the premesis from about 1956-1958. I loved it.
> > > >
> > > > One Christmas eve, a lioness had two cubs. She killed one,
> > which
> > > was
> > > > not uncommon in those days with big cats in captivity, and
the
> > > > trainer got the other one out. My father brought it to the
> > house
> > > and
> > > > I hand raised Honey, as I named her. She lived in the house
> > with
> > > us
> > > > until she was just over a year old. Then she went into
> > training.
> > > >
> > > > My favorite, though, was the elephants. In those days, very
> > > little
> > > > was done with African elephants. We had one African and the
> > rest
> > > > were Indian elephants. I loved working with them and playing
> > with
> > > > them. I had my own elephant act with one of the younger
> > elephants
> > > > that I performed at Jungleland and on the TV show my dad
> > produced
> > > on
> > > > KTLA in Los Angeles called Circus. The Ringmaster was Dick
> Lane
> > > of
> > > > Rollerderby fame.
> > > >
> > > > I also had a liberty pony act that I enjoyed working with
and
> > > > performing with. This is where the ponies are loose and run
> > > around
> > > > the ring and do different tricks depending on what the
trainer
> > > wants
> > > > them to do.
> > > >
> > > > Being the "ham" that I am, I enjoyed working with these
animals
> > > and
> > > > performing with them.
> > > >
> > > > I also sold tickets and worked in the gift shop at
Jungleland.
> > It
> > > > was excellent training. I learned so much about animals
from
> > all
> > > the
> > > > different trainers at Jungleland. There were all great to
me
> > and
> > > > very patient. The only trainer I did not like was Mable
> Stark.
> > > At
> > > > the time, she was the world's only woman tiger trainer. She
> > worked
> > > at
> > > > Jungleland many years and I was scared to death of her. She
> was
> > > very
> > > > ornery and mean.
> > > >
> > > > One time my dad had an elephant at a fund raiser Easter egg
> hunt
> > > for
> > > > some group. I rode on the elephant during the egg hunt, and
I
> > > could
> > > > see all the eggs from my high vantage point!
> > > >
> > > > It was not a normal childhood, but it was a fun one.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has any specific questions, let me know.
> > > >
> > > > Robin --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > > > <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > After my family visited with you, we all thought it would
> have
> > > been
> > > > > fun to talk a little bit about your experiences with
the "big
> > > cats"
> > > > > and the elephants. How young were you when you lived
amongst
> > > the
> > > > > animals? Can you somehow briefly encapsulate your time at
> > > > > JungleLand? Is there one (or two) experiences that you
found
> > > > > particularly memorable or impressive as a child?
> > > > >
> > > > > Helen

>
> This is the kind of life most children pretend! That is so cool.
> We are actually reading your reply one by one here and the kids

> get back with questions in a bit...
>
> Isn't funny that, having grown up with the exotic animals, you

> up devoting your life to working with "Man's best friend!" That's
> neat. How did it come about that you decided to work with Dogs for
> the Deaf?
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Helen,
> >
> > Living at Jungleland as a child was a great experience. We
> actually
> > lived on the premesis from about 1956-1958. I loved it.
> >
> > One Christmas eve, a lioness had two cubs. She killed one, which
> was
> > not uncommon in those days with big cats in captivity, and the
> > trainer got the other one out. My father brought it to the house
> and
> > I hand raised Honey, as I named her. She lived in the house with
> us
> > until she was just over a year old. Then she went into

> >
> > My favorite, though, was the elephants. In those days, very
> little
> > was done with African elephants. We had one African and the rest
> > were Indian elephants. I loved working with them and playing with
> > them. I had my own elephant act with one of the younger

> > that I performed at Jungleland and on the TV show my dad produced
> on
> > KTLA in Los Angeles called Circus. The Ringmaster was Dick Lane
> of
> > Rollerderby fame.
> >
> > I also had a liberty pony act that I enjoyed working with and
> > performing with. This is where the ponies are loose and run
> around
> > the ring and do different tricks depending on what the trainer
> wants
> > them to do.
> >
> > Being the "ham" that I am, I enjoyed working with these animals
> and
> > performing with them.
> >
> > I also sold tickets and worked in the gift shop at Jungleland.

> > was excellent training. I learned so much about animals from all
> the
> > different trainers at Jungleland. There were all great to me and
> > very patient. The only trainer I did not like was Mable Stark.
> At
> > the time, she was the world's only woman tiger trainer. She

> at
> > Jungleland many years and I was scared to death of her. She was
> very
> > ornery and mean.
> >
> > One time my dad had an elephant at a fund raiser Easter egg hunt
> for
> > some group. I rode on the elephant during the egg hunt, and I
> could
> > see all the eggs from my high vantage point!
> >
> > It was not a normal childhood, but it was a fun one.
> >
> > If anyone has any specific questions, let me know.
> >
> > Robin --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > After my family visited with you, we all thought it would have
> been
> > > fun to talk a little bit about your experiences with the "big
> cats"
> > > and the elephants. How young were you when you lived amongst
> the
> > > animals? Can you somehow briefly encapsulate your time at
> > > JungleLand? Is there one (or two) experiences that you found
> > > particularly memorable or impressive as a child?
> > >
> > > Helen

>
> "What made you grow up to do things with dogs and not jungle
> animals?"
>
>
> "I wish I had a childhood like that!"
>
> --Amanda

>
> So, was it your lion, Honey, that bit Jane Mansfield's daughter?
>
> Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
>
> -
>
> No, it wasn't my lion that bit Jan Mansfield's son. That was a
> classic case of a parent or other adult not watching a child. It
was
> not the lions fault, but of course the lion got blamed and,
> unfortunately, that lawsuit was the beginning of the end for
> Jungleland. It was too bad.
>
> A few years earlier, my father had supplied a pink elephant for
one
> of Jane's birthday parties in Vegas. They painted this elephant
all
> pink and brought it into the hotel for her party. I have pictures
of
> it in my scrapbook.
>
> I also have some Jungleland memorabelia that I am going to be
putting
> on e-bay one of these days to sell. My kids aren't interested in
it,
> and it seems like it is time to get rid of it.
>
> One of the interesting things I have is my father's original
script
> for the Dr. Dolittle movie with Rex Harrison. It has all of his
> notes in it and everything.
>
> My father also produced the Chucko the Birthday Clown show in Los
> Angeles in the early 60's. I have a few copies of the book
written
> by Chucko's wife about those years.
>
> Yes, it was a different life (smile).
>
> Robin
>
> -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > So, was it your lion, Honey, that bit Jane Mansfield's daughter?
> >
> > Helen

>
> From Raymond: "Hi Robin. How's TyBo? How big were the elephants
> that you worked with?"

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Raymond, Ty Bo is great. He is here sleeping in my office.
He
> always sleeps while I have to work! I keep trying to trade places
> with him, but he won't do it!! It is a dog's life (smile).
>
> The elephants ranged from babies to huge, full grown adults. That
> was back in the days when they imported exotic animals from India
and
> Africa. Elephants were seldom born in captivity back then, so we
> would buy babies that were shipped in. They were still on a
bottle
> and very sweet and cute.
>
> Elephants are wonderful, gentle, and very intelligent. They
develop
> strong bonds with their trainers just like horses and dogs.
>
> The biggest one we had back then was a full grown female named
Emma.
> I used to ride her all the time.
>
> Did you know that an elephant's skin is actually made of many very
> thin layers. It is not tough like most people think it is.
>
> Take care.
>
> Robin--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
<sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > From Raymond: "Hi Robin. How's TyBo? How big were the
elephants
> > that you worked with?"

>
> I know that you have to leave at 2:30. Maybe there is time for a
> couple more questions. I'm glad that the board is working smoothly
> now. I'm so glad to talk with you again.
>
> I have two questions myself.
>
> First...
>
> How did your dad become interested in Dogs for the Deaf? It seems,
> again, to be an odd move... from exotic jungle animals to common
> house pets... (Not that I would be happy if my family took in a
> hearing elephant!) And, hearing dogs to boot. That was a new

> right?

> Hi Robin!
>
> My twins just woke me up and I have to try to get a little more

> but I wanted to say "hi" and "welcome".
>
> Have you been able to find Baby Milo for Helen? :-)
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 4:07 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Soon we will be talking with Robin Dickson...
>
>
> Robin is the daughter of Roy Kabat, the animal furnisher for Escape
> from the Planet of the Apes and Dr. Dolittle, among other films.
> Mr. Kabat worked with American Humane to establish the first

> dog program. Robin now heads Dogs for the Deaf.
>
> --

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
>
> My dad retired to southern Oregon in 1971. He brought a few
animals
> with him but thought he was pretty much done with animals.
>
> In 1976 he received a phone call from American Humane Assn. at
their
> headquarters in DEnver, CO. They had started doing some
experimental
> work with trying to train Hearing Dogs. They were having some
> problems and, because of his work with animals in movies, asked
him
> if he would help. He flew to Denver and spent two weeks watching
> what they were doing and offering suggestions. Then he came back
and
> started DFD. He was so intrigued with the whole concept and saw
the
> potential for it that he took an old barn on his ranch and made
> kennels on the ground floor and made the hay loft into a training
> apartment.
>
> The main thing they were doing wrong at American Humane, was they
> were just trying to get the dogs to work in a big, open room. He
> said, no, you have to have a mock apartment or house so the dogs
get
> used to working in a home-like environment. This was what we did
> with the movie/tv animals. We knew what kind of a set they would
be
> working in and made a mock up of that set and trained the animal
to
> do what it needed to do before getting to the studio. It made
> filming time much easier.
>
> That is what we still do today. We have four training apartments
> here at Dogs for the Deaf that are fully functional. The trainers
do
> all of the sound training there so the dogs get used to working in
a
> home environment. Then, when we place the dog, the transition is
> much easier.
>
> I have to go now. I can check the site later and see if there are
> any other questions, if that will work???
>
> This has been fun. Thanks for the opportunity.
>
> Robin
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I know that you have to leave at 2:30. Maybe there is time for
a
> > couple more questions. I'm glad that the board is working
smoothly
> > now. I'm so glad to talk with you again.
> >
> > I have two questions myself.
> >
> > First...
> >
> > How did your dad become interested in Dogs for the Deaf? It
seems,
> > again, to be an odd move... from exotic jungle animals to common
> > house pets... (Not that I would be happy if my family took in a
> > hearing elephant!) And, hearing dogs to boot. That was a new
> idea,
> > right?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
>
> -
>
> Hi,
>
> No, we have not had any luck on that.
>
> Robin-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Robin!
> >
> > My twins just woke me up and I have to try to get a little more
> sleep,
> > but I wanted to say "hi" and "welcome".
> >
> > Have you been able to find Baby Milo for Helen? :-)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@y...]
> > Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 4:07 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Soon we will be talking with Robin Dickson...
> >
> >
> > Robin is the daughter of Roy Kabat, the animal furnisher for
Escape
> > from the Planet of the Apes and Dr. Dolittle, among other
films.
> > Mr. Kabat worked with American Humane to establish the first
> hearing
> > dog program. Robin now heads Dogs for the Deaf.
> >
> > --

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/15/2005 1:32:24 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> This is just a reminder to visit the homepage
>
>
> I recognize Wanda and
> Fauna and the rest. But
> who's that in the middle?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Elaine, you crack me up!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: taebokitti@a... [taebokitti@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 3:53 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Song of the Day
>
> This is a tune Zira is singing while she is in the spaceship going
back
> in time to earth.
>
> On The Earth Again (sung to On The Road Again by Willie Nelson)
>
> On the Earth again
> I can't wait to get on the Earth again
> Up here with my simian mate
> I can't wait to get on the Earth again
>
> On the Earth again
> I can't wait to get on the Earth again
> Low gravity's making my uterus droop
> Soon I'll be cleaning baby chimp poop
> I can't wait to get on the Earth again
>
> Dr Zaius is a fool
> He should let humans and apes rule
> But oh noooooo
> So here we are in space
> With a billion light years to go
>
> I can't wait to get on teh Earth again!
>
> Bandstand with Taebokitti
>
> --

>
> That was my next question:
>
> You mentioned that your father furnished the animals for Dr.
> Dolittle. That's huge! There were a number of animals in that
> movie and they weren't just walk on parts. I think you mentioned
> that you have memories of this movie. Can you recall something
> specific? Your dad working late hours? This must have been a huge
> challenge for him!
>
> Also, please talk some more about the Dr. Dolittle memorabilia that
> you have. I think some of our members would find it interesting.
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
> >
> > -
> >
> > No, it wasn't my lion that bit Jan Mansfield's son. That was a
> > classic case of a parent or other adult not watching a child. It
> was
> > not the lions fault, but of course the lion got blamed and,
> > unfortunately, that lawsuit was the beginning of the end for
> > Jungleland. It was too bad.
> >
> > A few years earlier, my father had supplied a pink elephant for
> one
> > of Jane's birthday parties in Vegas. They painted this elephant
> all
> > pink and brought it into the hotel for her party. I have

> of
> > it in my scrapbook.
> >
> > I also have some Jungleland memorabelia that I am going to be
> putting
> > on e-bay one of these days to sell. My kids aren't interested in
> it,
> > and it seems like it is time to get rid of it.
> >
> > One of the interesting things I have is my father's original
> script
> > for the Dr. Dolittle movie with Rex Harrison. It has all of his
> > notes in it and everything.
> >
> > My father also produced the Chucko the Birthday Clown show in Los
> > Angeles in the early 60's. I have a few copies of the book
> written
> > by Chucko's wife about those years.
> >
> > Yes, it was a different life (smile).
> >
> > Robin
> >
> > -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > So, was it your lion, Honey, that bit Jane Mansfield's daughter?
> > >
> > > Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I love the home page pictures and colours.
>
> A big "thanks" to those involved!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 8:53 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day
>
>
> Isn't she great? We have a real treat for you tomorrow morning,
so
> stay tuned!
>
> Seriously. And always check the home page. The home pages are
> created by the ladies and contain pictures and links of things
that
> are dear to our hearts. Almost all of the pages were a group
> effort, with one woman saying "Ick, too much pink!" and another
one
> saying "Pink? I LOVE pink!" "Too dark!" "Too bright!" "Ick,
too
> much pink!" "That clashes!" Etc. Usually someone came up with a
> color scheme and someone else added a picture. These gals make a
> great team! I wish they would come and decorate my house. "Pink,
> please."
>
> Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
wrote:
> > Elaine, you crack me up!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: taebokitti@a... [taebokitti@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 3:53 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Song of the Day
> >
> > This is a tune Zira is singing while she is in the spaceship
going
> back
> > in time to earth.
> >
> > On The Earth Again (sung to On The Road Again by Willie Nelson)
> >
> > On the Earth again
> > I can't wait to get on the Earth again
> > Up here with my simian mate
> > I can't wait to get on the Earth again
> >
> > On the Earth again
> > I can't wait to get on the Earth again
> > Low gravity's making my uterus droop
> > Soon I'll be cleaning baby chimp poop
> > I can't wait to get on the Earth again
> >
> > Dr Zaius is a fool
> > He should let humans and apes rule
> > But oh noooooo
> > So here we are in space
> > With a billion light years to go
> >
> > I can't wait to get on teh Earth again!
> >
> > Bandstand with Taebokitti
> >
> > --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't know if it is too late to respond to this or not, but I
will
> give it a try.
>
> For the filming of Dr. Dolittle, most of it was filmed in England
so
> it involved getting the animals to England, getting exemptions
from
> their quarantine laws, and a lot of other hoops to jump through.
>
> The thing I remember most from what my dad talked about was that
Rex
> Harrison did not like animals and was actually afraid of some of
> them! This proved to be a real challenge, to say the least.
>
> As I said, I have the original script that my dad used during
> training and filming. I have the original 8mm film of my dad and
the
> other trainers teaching the giraffe to be ridden for the movie.
No
> one had ever trained a giraffe to be ridden before. The giraffe
did
> not like it at first!! I also have photographs, posters, and other
> such things from the movie.
>
> Sorry I had to leave at 11:30, but I had an appointment in town.
>
> Thanks so much for setting this up. It was fun. I would
definitely
> do it again if you want to.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Robin
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > That was my next question:
> >
> > You mentioned that your father furnished the animals for Dr.
> > Dolittle. That's huge! There were a number of animals in that
> > movie and they weren't just walk on parts. I think you
mentioned
> > that you have memories of this movie. Can you recall something
> > specific? Your dad working late hours? This must have been a
huge
> > challenge for him!
> >
> > Also, please talk some more about the Dr. Dolittle memorabilia
that
> > you have. I think some of our members would find it interesting.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > -
> > >
> > > No, it wasn't my lion that bit Jan Mansfield's son. That was
a
> > > classic case of a parent or other adult not watching a child.
It
> > was
> > > not the lions fault, but of course the lion got blamed and,
> > > unfortunately, that lawsuit was the beginning of the end for
> > > Jungleland. It was too bad.
> > >
> > > A few years earlier, my father had supplied a pink elephant
for
> > one
> > > of Jane's birthday parties in Vegas. They painted this
elephant
> > all
> > > pink and brought it into the hotel for her party. I have
> pictures
> > of
> > > it in my scrapbook.
> > >
> > > I also have some Jungleland memorabelia that I am going to be
> > putting
> > > on e-bay one of these days to sell. My kids aren't interested
in
> > it,
> > > and it seems like it is time to get rid of it.
> > >
> > > One of the interesting things I have is my father's original
> > script
> > > for the Dr. Dolittle movie with Rex Harrison. It has all of
his
> > > notes in it and everything.
> > >
> > > My father also produced the Chucko the Birthday Clown show in
Los
> > > Angeles in the early 60's. I have a few copies of the book
> > written
> > > by Chucko's wife about those years.
> > >
> > > Yes, it was a different life (smile).
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >
> > > -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
<sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, was it your lion, Honey, that bit Jane Mansfield's
daughter?
> > > >
> > > > Helen

>
> Have we seen the same "PLANET OF THE APES"???
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>
>
> Well. I was reading the conclusion to this story when my wife
sneaked
> up behind me to see what I was doing. She then burst into laughter
> and proceeded to goof on me for reading a "chick" story and
getting
> into it because it was Planet of the Apes related. She is hoping
you
> can relate other items in our lives into Apes stories. Now if you
> will excuse me. My son wants a cookie. --- The good Dr. Zaius
Davis

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>
>
> Well. I was reading the conclusion to this story when my wife
sneaked
> up behind me to see what I was doing. She then burst into laughter
> and proceeded to goof on me for reading a "chick" story and
getting
> into it because it was Planet of the Apes related. She is hoping
you
> can relate other items in our lives into Apes stories. Now if you
> will excuse me. My son wants a cookie. --- The good Dr. Zaius
Davis







Yahoo! Groups Links

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>
>
> I think she's just hoping that if you do a story where Ursus
spends
> his day off from hunting humans, cleaning the house, doing the
> dishes,taking out the trash, the laundry and then tends to his
yard
> before cooking his family dinner, I'll somehow come around to her
> (and I'm sure she's not alone) way of thinking.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>
>
> If you didn't know that the main characters were chimps and that
the
> story takes place on the Planet of the Apes, its a really
romantic,
> cute "chick" story. The kind I would tease my wife for reading.
Which
> is why she found it so funny for me to be glued to the monitor
> reading it. I meant it all as a compliment I assure you.

> Hi everybody,
>
> I haven't been a member for long, so this is my first post. I

>
> Melinda
>
>
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:44:42 +1100
> From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
> Subject: Sideshow Mutant
>
> Well it's about time!
>
> I sent Sideshow a list of POTA Figures wanted by fans that the DG

> together years ago.
>
> Any new apes coming I wonder?

----- Original Message -----
From: "dg_guest" <dg_guest@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:14 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Lioness and JungleLand


>
>
>
>
> I don't know if it is too late to respond to this or not, but I will
> give it a try.
>
> For the filming of Dr. Dolittle, most of it was filmed in England so
> it involved getting the animals to England, getting exemptions from
> their quarantine laws, and a lot of other hoops to jump through.
>
> The thing I remember most from what my dad talked about was that Rex
> Harrison did not like animals and was actually afraid of some of
> them! This proved to be a real challenge, to say the least.
>
> As I said, I have the original script that my dad used during
> training and filming. I have the original 8mm film of my dad and the
> other trainers teaching the giraffe to be ridden for the movie. No
> one had ever trained a giraffe to be ridden before. The giraffe did
> not like it at first!! I also have photographs, posters, and other
> such things from the movie.
>
> Sorry I had to leave at 11:30, but I had an appointment in town.
>
> Thanks so much for setting this up. It was fun. I would definitely
> do it again if you want to.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Robin
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > That was my next question:
> >
> > You mentioned that your father furnished the animals for Dr.
> > Dolittle. That's huge! There were a number of animals in that
> > movie and they weren't just walk on parts. I think you mentioned
> > that you have memories of this movie. Can you recall something
> > specific? Your dad working late hours? This must have been a huge
> > challenge for him!
> >
> > Also, please talk some more about the Dr. Dolittle memorabilia that
> > you have. I think some of our members would find it interesting.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "dg_guest" <dg_guest@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > -
> > >
> > > No, it wasn't my lion that bit Jan Mansfield's son. That was a
> > > classic case of a parent or other adult not watching a child. It
> > was
> > > not the lions fault, but of course the lion got blamed and,
> > > unfortunately, that lawsuit was the beginning of the end for
> > > Jungleland. It was too bad.
> > >
> > > A few years earlier, my father had supplied a pink elephant for
> > one
> > > of Jane's birthday parties in Vegas. They painted this elephant
> > all
> > > pink and brought it into the hotel for her party. I have
> pictures
> > of
> > > it in my scrapbook.
> > >
> > > I also have some Jungleland memorabelia that I am going to be
> > putting
> > > on e-bay one of these days to sell. My kids aren't interested in
> > it,
> > > and it seems like it is time to get rid of it.
> > >
> > > One of the interesting things I have is my father's original
> > script
> > > for the Dr. Dolittle movie with Rex Harrison. It has all of his
> > > notes in it and everything.
> > >
> > > My father also produced the Chucko the Birthday Clown show in Los
> > > Angeles in the early 60's. I have a few copies of the book
> > written
> > > by Chucko's wife about those years.
> > >
> > > Yes, it was a different life (smile).
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >
> > > -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, was it your lion, Honey, that bit Jane Mansfield's daughter?
> > > >
> > > > Helen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Well it's about time!
>
> I sent Sideshow a list of POTA Figures wanted by fans that the DG out
> together years ago.
>
> Any new apes coming I wonder?
>
> I hope we don't get Stevie and Lewis next! Or Hasslein!
>
> Anyway, good news that they seem to be pushing forward with more Beneath
> figures.
>
> Let's buy up and hope they do ESCAPE etc too.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haristas@a... [Haristas@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 10:25 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com;
> POTA_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com
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> Apes 12 inch Figures Be
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> 70's Outfit Zira!
> That would be cool.
> I doubt they can pull it off.
> That cross between a
> Mod Perky Girl and
> Nanny and The Professor.
> They didn't even get the
> right color boots. Green
> boots will not go with
> Burgundy Velvet.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
>
>
> So what's the plan for tonight?

Sorry about that, I was a little late posting our schedule for the
day. You will see it has been posted.

The conference will take place at 4:00pm Pacific time, 7:00pm
Eastern, 12:00Midnight in London, and 11:00am tomorrow in Canberra.
But if you live in Canberra, expect to be there today as the event
will happen tomorrow in the US. I could mail you the chart, but it
would take a few days to get to you and you would be a week late for
last week's show. Here is the link:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/


You'll have to figure out how to cut and paste it to your address
bar, 'cus I'm not good with that.

>
> What time does the show start and is there a dress code?

Since this is an evening conference, I suggest dress casual.
However, if you live in California you may wear your sweats. If you
live in London, pjs are acceptable. In Canberra, just wear
yesterday's clothes.

>
> Dave B

> I haven't heard from anyone a regarding the contest so I am

> I am also adding a prize to the first person who has the correct

> addition to cookies you will receive a Caesar medicom in the

> answers are in Boulle's book.
>
> 1. Name the individual who translated the book from French to

>
> 2. Describe Jinn and Phyllis' spaceship.

>
> 3.What is the name of the Institute where Zira works?

>
> 4. Why did the Grand Council of Soror decide to release Ulysse?

>
> 5.What is the name of Nova 's and Ulysse's son?
>

>
> pota trivia with Taebokitti

Hey James good job on "helping" me with my answers... let's share the cookies huh?

-Chris

> Hey check my answers too!! I don't care avout the Medicom fig but

>
>
> 1. Name the individual who translated the book from French to
> English.
>
> Xan Fielding
>
>
> 2. Describe Jinn and Phyllis' spaceship.
>
> Their ship was a sort of sphere with an envelope—the sail—which

> miraculously fine and light and moved through space propelled by

> series of black blinds that he could roll up or unroll at will,

> reflecting power of certain sections. Furthermore, this elastic
> envelope could be stretched or contracted as the navigator pleased.
>
>
> 3.What is the name of the Institute where Zira works?
>
> Institute for Advanced Biological Study
>
> 4. Why did the Grand Council of Soror decide to release Ulysse?
>
> Public opinion demanded it and they had to yield.
>
> 5.What is the name of Nova 's and Ulysse's son?
>
> Sirius
>
>
>
> Hey James good job on "helping" me with my answers... let's share

>
>
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Hi Melinda and welcome.
>
> Well, I have NO idea where the list ended up!
>
> I spoke to Sideshow recently about the POTA line and they gave the
> standard response "Keep buying we'll keep making".
>
> The big question is: are they doing BENEATH now and ESCAPE next
etc etc
> - nobody there could answer me.
>
> Maybe somebody IN the us can phone them and be more patient than me
> (tick, tick, ching, ching!).
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Melinda G Kettler [mgkettler@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 2:28 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Figures
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I haven't been a member for long, so this is my first post. I
have a
> question in response to Michael's post below. Can you share what
the
> list was of POTA figures wanted by the fans on the DG? Is there an
> email address where you can write to Sideshow with suggestions?
I want
> a GALEN figure!!! He's absolutely my favorite POTA character.
>
> Melinda
>
>
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:44:42 +1100
> From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
> Subject: Sideshow Mutant
>
> Well it's about time!
>
> I sent Sideshow a list of POTA Figures wanted by fans that the DG
out
> together years ago.
>
> Any new apes coming I wonder?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with us about writing,
fanfiction
> and pota. Elaine

>
> Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone who writes fanfiction. I'm
> excited about being able to chat with some of my most favorite
> authors of PotA fanfictions.
> Kasey/Undomiel

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with us about

> fanfiction
> > and pota. Elaine

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05" <elfgirl_06@c...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone who writes fanfiction. I'm
> > excited about being able to chat with some of my most favorite
> > authors of PotA fanfictions.
> > Kasey/Undomiel
>
> ++That's so nice of you to say:). I'm glad you enjoyed our
> fictions. T and I have been fans since the series first aired.
>
> Kass
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with us about
> writing,
> > fanfiction
> > > and pota. Elaine