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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26061 |
From: Theresa |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26062 |
From: Theresa |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Greetings to Kass and Theresa! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26063 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26064 |
From: hidalgo_girl05 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26065 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26066 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not There |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26067 |
From: Theresa |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26068 |
From: hidalgo_girl05 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Have to Leave |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26069 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: The following is from Dave Ballard |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26070 |
From: taebokitti@aol.com |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Bye from Elaine |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26071 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Greetings to Kass and Theresa! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26072 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26073 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26074 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: inspiration to write |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26075 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26076 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Bye from Elaine |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26077 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Another from Dave... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26078 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26079 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: The following is from Dave Ballard |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26080 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Bye from Elaine |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26081 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26082 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Greetings to Kass and Theresa! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26083 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26084 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26085 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26086 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: question about readership |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26087 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: more from Dave... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26088 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26089 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: writing apes as apes |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26090 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26091 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Another from Dave... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26092 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Another from Dave... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26093 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26094 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26095 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: There ought not be a law... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26096 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: The following is from Dave Ballard |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26097 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26098 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: question about readership |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26099 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26100 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: There ought not be a law... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26101 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26102 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26103 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: There ought not be a law... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26104 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26105 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26106 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26107 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Mike's questions re: the tv show |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26108 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Last one tonight from Dave Ballard... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26109 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: There ought not be a law... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26110 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26111 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Values... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26112 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26113 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26114 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26115 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26116 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26117 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26118 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26119 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26120 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Mike's questions re: the tv show |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26121 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26122 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26123 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26124 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26125 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Kass, Theresa, Kasey, Elaine... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26126 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Gotta go! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26127 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: more from Dave... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26128 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Gotta go! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26129 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Gotta go! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26130 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Gotta go! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26131 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Gotta go! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26132 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: more from Dave... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26133 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: I'm still here... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26134 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26135 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26136 |
From: John |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: FanFic |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26137 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26138 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26139 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26140 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26141 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last one tonight from Dave Ballard... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26142 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last one tonight from Dave Ballard... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26143 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last one tonight from Dave Ballard... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26144 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Theresa, before you go... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26145 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26146 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Theresa, before you go... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26147 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26148 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26149 |
From: ron kenner |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Values... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26150 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Values... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26151 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26152 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26153 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Kass, Theresa, Kasey, Elaine... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26154 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26155 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26156 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26157 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: What do you wish someone would write? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26158 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: I'm still here... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26159 |
From: Kasey |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Kass, Theresa, Kasey, Elaine... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26160 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26061 |
From: Theresa |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
.htmlBut Kass is older.
T.
--- Kassidy Rae < valwp@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05"
> <elfgirl_06@c...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone who writes
> fanfiction. I'm
> > excited about being able to chat with some of my
> most favorite
> > authors of PotA fanfictions.
> > Kasey/Undomiel
>
> ++That's so nice of you to say:). I'm glad you
> enjoyed our
> fictions. T and I have been fans since the series
> first aired.
>
> Kass
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a...
> wrote:
> > > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with
> us about
> writing,
> > fanfiction
> > > and pota. Elaine
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________
<.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26062 |
From: Theresa |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Greetings to Kass and Theresa! |
.html--- Kassidy Rae < valwp@...> wrote:
> Hi, Elaine, Helen and Kasey. Glad to be here. I'm
> glad my pal T
> could join me here. "Scattered Remains" was the
> first long POTA tv
> fic I read and I fell in love with it! Promptly
> wrote Theresa and
> probably drove her crazy, too;)
> Kass
>
***Actually, I was already crazy long before you wrote
to me. But I've loved POTA (the movies and the tv
series -- but mostly Burke on the tv series) since the
very beginning.
T.>
>
>
>
>
>
__________________________________
<.html
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|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26063 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
.htmlOMG, I feel so old. Thanks, Kasey;)
I had written a couple of fictions in another fandom. The dvds to
the tv series came out and I bought them, thinking, well, let's see
how dumb the show really was. I thought because I was 12 at the
time that the show would probably seem juvenile to me as an adult. I
was totally wrong. I love it now as much as then (though my heart
was broken when the show was cancelled).
I don't know if I'm good enough at it to give advice, but I'd say,
put your heart in it, have fun with it, and go over it again and
again for grammar and punctuation errors. Don't let your love for
the writing hinge on feedback, because that's a sure route to
disappointment.
Kass
-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05" <elfgirl_06@c...>
wrote:
>
> Hum, let's see. I wasn't alive yet so I unfortunantely can't say
the
> same. But on to some questions...
> What promted you to start writing PotA fanfiction? Is there any
> advice that you would give to those of us who enjoy the art of
> writing?
> Kasey
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05"
<elfgirl_06@c...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone who writes fanfiction. I'm
> > > excited about being able to chat with some of my most favorite
> > > authors of PotA fanfictions.
> > > Kasey/Undomiel
> >
> > ++That's so nice of you to say:). I'm glad you enjoyed our
> > fictions. T and I have been fans since the series first aired.
> >
> > Kass
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > > > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with us about
> > writing,
> > > fanfiction
> > > > and pota. Elaine <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26064 |
From: hidalgo_girl05 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
.html:) Don't feel too bad my siblings are all at least 20 years older
than I am... acident baby!
What inspires you to write? I know that authors of this genre don't
receive all that much feedback, but it is nice. But how long, on
average, does it take you to complete a story? What factors tend to
make a story well written (besides grammar and spelling) and
interesting enough to hold the readers attention?
Kasey
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
>
> OMG, I feel so old. Thanks, Kasey;)
>
> I had written a couple of fictions in another fandom. The dvds to
> the tv series came out and I bought them, thinking, well, let's
see
> how dumb the show really was. I thought because I was 12 at the
> time that the show would probably seem juvenile to me as an adult.
I
> was totally wrong. I love it now as much as then (though my heart
> was broken when the show was cancelled).
>
> I don't know if I'm good enough at it to give advice, but I'd say,
> put your heart in it, have fun with it, and go over it again and
> again for grammar and punctuation errors. Don't let your love for
> the writing hinge on feedback, because that's a sure route to
> disappointment.
>
> Kass
>
> -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05" <elfgirl_06@c...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hum, let's see. I wasn't alive yet so I unfortunantely can't say
> the
> > same. But on to some questions...
> > What promted you to start writing PotA fanfiction? Is there any
> > advice that you would give to those of us who enjoy the art of
> > writing?
> > Kasey
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05"
> <elfgirl_06@c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone who writes fanfiction.
I'm
> > > > excited about being able to chat with some of my most
favorite
> > > > authors of PotA fanfictions.
> > > > Kasey/Undomiel
> > >
> > > ++That's so nice of you to say:). I'm glad you enjoyed our
> > > fictions. T and I have been fans since the series first aired.
> > >
> > > Kass
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > > > > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with us about
> > > writing,
> > > > fanfiction
> > > > > and pota. Elaine <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26065 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, Theresa <tkarle_725@y...> wrote:
> But Kass is older.
>
> T.
++Relatively speaking, T, we're older than sin to Kasey. But thanks
for that comment. WHICH IS A LIE.
Hussy.
Kass
>
>
> --- Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05"
> > <elfgirl_06@c...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone who writes
> > fanfiction. I'm
> > > excited about being able to chat with some of my
> > most favorite
> > > authors of PotA fanfictions.
> > > Kasey/Undomiel
> >
> > ++That's so nice of you to say:). I'm glad you
> > enjoyed our
> > fictions. T and I have been fans since the series
> > first aired.
> >
> > Kass
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a...
> > wrote:
> > > > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with
> > us about
> > writing,
> > > fanfiction
> > > > and pota. Elaine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
<.html
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|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26066 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not There |
|
.html You have to know the characters. You can put them in almost any
situation and so long as they sound like the characters, so long as
the group dynamics are in place, people who love the show will
relate.
What do you say, oldtimer T?
(running very fast)
Kass <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 26067 |
From: Theresa |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
.html--- Kassidy Rae < valwp@...> wrote:
> ++Relatively speaking, T, we're older than sin to
> Kasey. But thanks
> for that comment. WHICH IS A LIE.
> Hussy.> Kass
***I love you too, Kass!
T.
__________________________________
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26068 |
From: hidalgo_girl05 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Have to Leave |
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.html I'm sorry that I can't stick around for longer, but I have to rush
off to my job interview. This has been very nice and informative.
Hopefully other people will come on and ask questions too. Thank you
so much!
The young one,
Kasey <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26069 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: The following is from Dave Ballard |
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.html Helen,
Once again the time-zones will probably prevent my taking part in
any `live' discussions (bummer)
Could I ask that you consider posting some of the following on my
behalf.
Many thanks,
Dave B
1: Hi Girls
Hey T! Long time, no see!
Ladies and gents, T was the one that showed me how it should be done
and in the realm of Fan Fiction she has no equal. She was there
first, she's the giant on whose shoulders I precariously balance.
Her contagious enthusiasm, wisdom and encouragement was a huge
factor in my development as a fanfic writer.
Kass, what can I say? Without Kass there'd be no 'Sleeping Gods'
or 'The Unquiet.' The audio of 'Values' would only have been half as
good as it was. Her own work is an inspiration and she's the perfect
reader, enthusiastic but honest. She takes no prisoners and keeps me
on my toes but even when I screw up she's appreciative of what I
tried to do.
There was a dedication on Values that read 'For Kassidy Rae, who
always makes things better" and that's something she has continued
to do ever since.
Let's hear it for the girls. (cue thunderous applause and a standing
ovation) <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26070 |
From: taebokitti@aol.com |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Bye from Elaine |
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.html .html
I hope to talk again sometime with you and Theresa, Kass. Theresa,I read your story today and it has great characters and you wrote an excellent story. Anyone who hasn't read this story, should read it. I am
expecting a phone call and do not have a separate phone line. Thanks again ladies for spending time with us. Elaine<.html <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26071 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Greetings to Kass and Theresa! |
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Hi Kass.
Might be a good idea to explain now that T
is Theresa, not our resident T, “LordTZer0”!
Thanks for joining us.
I recall for years it has been a struggle
to actually get people to READ fan-fics.
This is the main reason I sought a writer
and a comic artist to present fan-fic in a different
way – via a comic book in small, easily digestible chunks. We ended up with Beware the Beast, and I
would have to guess this was read more widely than most other fan-fics.
What other ideas do you have to get people
reading?
Another I have tried is actually posting
chunks of fan-fics with summaries.
We also tried (with little success)
posting chapters of Boulle’s novel, with illustrations.
It still didn’t rouse too much
activity.
So I’m always looking for new ideas.
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae
[valwp@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
11:29 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Greetings to
Kass and Theresa!
Hi, Elaine, Helen and Kasey. Glad to be
here. I'm glad my pal T
could join me here. "Scattered
Remains" was the first long POTA tv
fic I read and I fell in love with it!
Promptly wrote Theresa and
probably drove her crazy, too;)
Hello to all at the DG!
Kass
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26072 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
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In a message dated 2/17/05 7:48:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, valwp@... writes:
You have to know the characters. You can put them in almost any
situation and so long as they sound like the characters, so long as
the group dynamics are in place, people who love the show will
relate.
What do you say, oldtimer T?
(running very fast)
Kass
Also remember that the apes are apes; don't write them as human beings.
-- Roriopia<.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26073 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
.html++Same to you, gal pal. But you already know it:)
K
> ***I love you too, Kass!
>
> T.
>
>
>
> __________________________________
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26074 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: inspiration to write |
.htmlLots of things. you mean just for this fandom or in general?
I'll answer it as what inspires me pertaining to this fandom. Pure
love of the relationship between the three friends, in a nutshell.
But I always love the APES. I've been spellbound ever since the
original movie, and those terrifying faces coming through the field,
astride horses, hunting the dumb humans.
I loved Roddy. Galen was my favorite of his characters. He was
funny, fussy, and very open-minded and generous. He lived by his
principles and though he'd probably end up dying for them as well,
he didn't let that deter him.
Love James Naughton. Good Lord, he was my first major crush. What
a pretty boy! Rebellious, smart-alecky -- what's not to love;) All
praise the shirtless scenes...;)
Urko. I remember him shaking that gun over the map during "The
Interrogation" -- what the heck did he have to have his gun out
for, shaking it? I love his blustering, his fierceness.
But mainly the group dynamic. It's usually the personal
interactions that intrigue me enough to write.
Okay, I'm rambling. I guess by this you can tell that I really do
love the show, thoough;0
It depends on how long it takes me to write something. I wrote my
PoTA parody in one day at work. No Price Too Great and Echoes From
the Past were months long efforts.
As far as what makes a story good? I think like I said in an earlier
post, knowing the characters, being able to write them recognizably.
Good dialog is important, especially in fan fic. A real live honest
to God plot.
Kass
ahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05" <elfgirl_06@c...> wrote:
>
> :) Don't feel too bad my siblings are all at least 20 years older
> than I am... acident baby!
> What inspires you to write? I know that authors of this genre
don't
> receive all that much feedback, but it is nice. But how long, on
> average, does it take you to complete a story? What factors tend
to
> make a story well written (besides grammar and spelling) and
> interesting enough to hold the readers attention?
> Kasey
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > OMG, I feel so old. Thanks, Kasey;)
> >
> > I had written a couple of fictions in another fandom. The dvds
to
> > the tv series came out and I bought them, thinking, well, let's
> see
> > how dumb the show really was. I thought because I was 12 at the
> > time that the show would probably seem juvenile to me as an
adult.
> I
> > was totally wrong. I love it now as much as then (though my
heart
> > was broken when the show was cancelled).
> >
> > I don't know if I'm good enough at it to give advice, but I'd
say,
> > put your heart in it, have fun with it, and go over it again and
> > again for grammar and punctuation errors. Don't let your love
for
> > the writing hinge on feedback, because that's a sure route to
> > disappointment.
> >
> > Kass
> >
> > -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05" <elfgirl_06@c...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hum, let's see. I wasn't alive yet so I unfortunantely can't
say
> > the
> > > same. But on to some questions...
> > > What promted you to start writing PotA fanfiction? Is there
any
> > > advice that you would give to those of us who enjoy the art of
> > > writing?
> > > Kasey
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05"
> > <elfgirl_06@c...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone who writes fanfiction.
> I'm
> > > > > excited about being able to chat with some of my most
> favorite
> > > > > authors of PotA fanfictions.
> > > > > Kasey/Undomiel
> > > >
> > > > ++That's so nice of you to say:). I'm glad you enjoyed our
> > > > fictions. T and I have been fans since the series first
aired.
> > > >
> > > > Kass
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > > > > > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with us about
> > > > writing,
> > > > > fanfiction
> > > > > > and pota. Elaine <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26075 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> You have to know the characters. You can put them in almost any
> situation and so long as they sound like the characters, so long
as
> the group dynamics are in place, people who love the show will
> relate.
> What do you say, oldtimer T?
> (running very fast)
> Kass
***Actually, I'm not getting these posts in any kind of order so I
popped over to the homepage to do quick replies.
Getting the characters right is the #1 most important factor for me
in fan fic. If Pete Burke is slapping Galen around and raping women
or if Galen suddenly enjoys eating beef and betraying his friends,
I'm probably not going to stick around and finish the story because
they aren't the character I know from the television series.
"Oldtimer!" my hairy behind!! You'd better run, girl.
T. (Theresa) <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26076 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Bye from Elaine |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I hope to talk again sometime with you and Theresa, Kass.
Theresa,I read your
> story today and it has great characters and you wrote an excellent
story.
> Anyone who hasn't read this story, should read it. I am expecting
a phone call
> and do not have a separate phone line. Thanks again ladies for
spending time
> with us. Elaine
***Sorry you have to leave us so soon, Elaine! Glad you enjoyed the
story.
Theresa <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26077 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Another from Dave... |
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.html 2: Is there a single character you enjoy writing for more than any
other. Do you think you could do, let's say, a Burke solo adventure? <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26078 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
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Kass & T,
Dealing specifically with the TV Show:
With all due respect to everyone else, I
think Dave Ballard is the best at capturing the spirit and atmosphere of the TV
show – MOST particularly in the CD production Values, IMHO.
However, all due respect to the TV Show
itself, would it not have eventually died a natural and early death even WITH
ratings if the show didn’t stop being a “chase, catch, escape”
formula?
I’m currently looking at writing a NEW series of TV Show adventures and I’m
departing WILDLY from the tired formula because I don’t think it would
have worked THEN, and I KNOW it wouldn’t work NOW (excuse my arrogance! J).
Do you disagree?
Ie
if you were writing stories you hoped a TV Executive would pick up
and want to immortalise, would you try to “imitate” or embrace the
spirit of the TV Show or give it a new injection?
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae
[valwp@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
11:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Welcome
Kass!
·
OMG, I feel so old. Thanks, Kasey;)
I had written a couple of fictions in another
fandom. The dvds to
the tv series came out and I bought them,
thinking, well, let's see
how dumb the show really was. I thought
because I was 12 at the
time that the show would probably seem juvenile to
me as an adult. I
was totally wrong. I love it now as much as
then (though my heart
was broken when the show was cancelled).
I don't know if I'm good enough at it to give
advice, but I'd say,
put your heart in it, have fun with it, and go
over it again and
again for grammar and punctuation errors.
Don't let your love for
the writing hinge on feedback, because that's a
sure route to
disappointment.
Kass
-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"hidalgo_girl05" <elfgirl_06@c...>
wrote:
>
> Hum, let's see. I wasn't alive yet so I
unfortunantely can't say
the
> same. But on to some questions...
> What promted you to start writing PotA
fanfiction? Is there any
> advice that you would give to those of us who
enjoy the art of
> writing?
> Kasey
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy
Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"hidalgo_girl05"
<elfgirl_06@c...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone
who writes fanfiction. I'm
> > > excited about being able to chat
with some of my most favorite
> > > authors of PotA fanfictions.
> > > Kasey/Undomiel
> >
> > ++That's so nice of you to say:).
I'm glad you enjoyed our
> > fictions. T and I have been fans
since the series first aired.
> >
> > Kass
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > > > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled
you can chat with us about
> > writing,
> > > fanfiction
> > > > and pota. Elaine
--
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26079 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: The following is from Dave Ballard |
.htmlMr. Ballard can kiss butt like nobody's business, can't he, T;)
Seriously, that's so -- so freakin' NICE of Dave. He's one of the
most talented guys around in my book (and many others). That's a
huge compliment, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
You just want more fudge, don't you? I SAID I WAS MAKING IT, DAVE!;)
<Kass, what can I say? Without Kass there'd be no 'Sleeping Gods'
> or 'The Unquiet.' The audio of 'Values' would only have been half
as good as it was. Her own work is an inspiration and she's the
perfect reader, enthusiastic but honest. She takes no prisoners and
keeps me on my toes but even when I screw up she's appreciative of
what I tried to do.>
++Appreciation for Dave is always the easy part. And if I weren't
honest with you, I wouldn't do either of us any favors. I assume
you mean there'd be no Sleeping Gods or Unquiet because I'm a
tireless nagger?:) The thing is, everybody was wild over Dave's
first tv series fan fic, and there was a lot of feedback. It was
perfect, but I also knew that it was the exception rather than the
rule. But Dave's always loved apes, so he never depended on the
feedback for inspiration. He leaned on his love of the apes, as it
should be. Dave's writing has a lot of complicated emotional issues
along with his soaring plots, so he's always got plenty to work
with.
>
>< There was a dedication on Values that read 'For Kassidy Rae, who
> always makes things better" and that's something she has continued
> to do ever since.>
+AT risk of us becoming nauseating ;), that means more to me than I
can say. I'll probably have that cd and that saying on it until,
well, forever.
Bet y'all don't know that my husband helped with a little of the
recording on "Values". I thought that was very cool. my best
friend's daughter plays "Chris,", too.
I love apes and I love to enjoy them with other people (kinky!)
Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26080 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Bye from Elaine |
.htmlI'm sure we'll talk again soon, Elaine. You ladies have done a
great job here at the DG this week.
Kass
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I hope to talk again sometime with you and Theresa, Kass.
Theresa,I read your
> story today and it has great characters and you wrote an excellent
story.
> Anyone who hasn't read this story, should read it. I am expecting
a phone call
> and do not have a separate phone line. Thanks again ladies for
spending time
> with us. Elaine <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26081 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
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And I’d have to say you are the best
person for this job!
For those who don’t know, Kass recently filtered a translation of
Argentinean TV Show comics.
By that I mean after they were translated,
Kass made them sound like words that WOULD be used by Galen, Urko, Pete etc and she did a great job.
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae
[valwp@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
11:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] another piece of
advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not Theresa;)
You have to know the characters. You can put
them in almost any
situation and so long as they sound like the
characters, so long as
the group dynamics are in place, people who love
the show will
relate.
What do you say, oldtimer T?
(running very fast)
Kass
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26082 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Greetings to Kass and Theresa! |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Might be a good idea to explain now that T is Theresa, not our
resident
> T, "LordTZer0"!
***I'm "T" on most of the lists I belong to, but I understand
LordTZerO was on this one first, so he's T here. But I'll just be
it tonight.
>
> I recall for years it has been a struggle to actually get people
to READ fan-fics.
***Well, I know POTA the tv series is a very small fandom, so I've
always considered finding any stories set in it to be golden.
>
> This is the main reason I sought a writer and a comic artist to
present fan-fic in a different way - via a comic book in small,
easily digestible chunks. We ended up with Beware the Beast, and I
would have to guess this was read more widely than most other fan-
fics.
***Read it and enjoyed it immensely.
>
> What other ideas do you have to get people reading?
>
***If the interest is there and the work is good, like Field of
Dreams, they will come.
> We also tried (with little success) posting chapters of Boulle's
novel, with illustrations. It still didn't rouse too much activity.
***I feel that the novel's a bit cerebral for folks who are just
looking to be entertained. I think that's the main reason why
sitcoms are so popular on tv -- you don't have to sit and think
about anything; it's just in your face for 30 minutes and then it's
over and done with and you can move on to the next one.
> <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26083 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
.htmlI may have missed a post, but are there other "fandoms" that you
write fan fiction for, Kass?
Theresa, are you mainly a POTA girl?
Helen
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Lots of things. you mean just for this fandom or in general?
>
> I'll answer it as what inspires me pertaining to this fandom.
Pure
> love of the relationship between the three friends, in a
nutshell.
>
> But I always love the APES. I've been spellbound ever since the
> original movie, and those terrifying faces coming through the
field,
> astride horses, hunting the dumb humans.
>
> I loved Roddy. Galen was my favorite of his characters. He was
> funny, fussy, and very open-minded and generous. He lived by his
> principles and though he'd probably end up dying for them as well,
> he didn't let that deter him.
>
> Love James Naughton. Good Lord, he was my first major crush.
What
> a pretty boy! Rebellious, smart-alecky -- what's not to love;)
All
> praise the shirtless scenes...;)
>
> Urko. I remember him shaking that gun over the map during "The
> Interrogation" -- what the heck did he have to have his gun out
> for, shaking it? I love his blustering, his fierceness.
>
> But mainly the group dynamic. It's usually the personal
> interactions that intrigue me enough to write.
>
> Okay, I'm rambling. I guess by this you can tell that I really do
> love the show, thoough;0
>
> It depends on how long it takes me to write something. I wrote my
> PoTA parody in one day at work. No Price Too Great and Echoes
From
> the Past were months long efforts.
>
> As far as what makes a story good? I think like I said in an
earlier
> post, knowing the characters, being able to write them
recognizably.
> Good dialog is important, especially in fan fic. A real live
honest
> to God plot.
>
> Kass
>
> ahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05" <elfgirl_06@c...> wrote:
> >
> > :) Don't feel too bad my siblings are all at least 20 years
older
> > than I am... acident baby!
> > What inspires you to write? I know that authors of this genre
> don't
> > receive all that much feedback, but it is nice. But how long, on
> > average, does it take you to complete a story? What factors tend
> to
> > make a story well written (besides grammar and spelling) and
> > interesting enough to hold the readers attention?
> > Kasey
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > OMG, I feel so old. Thanks, Kasey;)
> > >
> > > I had written a couple of fictions in another fandom. The
dvds
> to
> > > the tv series came out and I bought them, thinking, well,
let's
> > see
> > > how dumb the show really was. I thought because I was 12 at
the
> > > time that the show would probably seem juvenile to me as an
> adult.
> > I
> > > was totally wrong. I love it now as much as then (though my
> heart
> > > was broken when the show was cancelled).
> > >
> > > I don't know if I'm good enough at it to give advice, but I'd
> say,
> > > put your heart in it, have fun with it, and go over it again
and
> > > again for grammar and punctuation errors. Don't let your love
> for
> > > the writing hinge on feedback, because that's a sure route to
> > > disappointment.
> > >
> > > Kass
> > >
> > > -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05"
<elfgirl_06@c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hum, let's see. I wasn't alive yet so I unfortunantely can't
> say
> > > the
> > > > same. But on to some questions...
> > > > What promted you to start writing PotA fanfiction? Is there
> any
> > > > advice that you would give to those of us who enjoy the art
of
> > > > writing?
> > > > Kasey
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05"
> > > <elfgirl_06@c...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone who writes
fanfiction.
> > I'm
> > > > > > excited about being able to chat with some of my most
> > favorite
> > > > > > authors of PotA fanfictions.
> > > > > > Kasey/Undomiel
> > > > >
> > > > > ++That's so nice of you to say:). I'm glad you enjoyed
our
> > > > > fictions. T and I have been fans since the series first
> aired.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kass
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > > > > > > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with us
about
> > > > > writing,
> > > > > > fanfiction
> > > > > > > and pota. Elaine <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26084 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
.html--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
Kass & T,
Dealing specifically with the TV Show:
With all due respect to everyone else, I think Dave Ballard is the
best at capturing the spirit and atmosphere of the TV show - MOST
particularly in the CD production Values, IMHO.
***And as a male, it's only natural for you to appreciate Dave's
amazing ability to recreate the tv series, especially in the
technical and mechanical aspects. I, too, am a big fan of his
talents, for they are immense ... and he's also shown himself to be
a sensitive writer who knows his audience and knows what they like.
He picked up immediately that women like the relationship more than
the gadgets, and he started putting more of that in his wonderful
tales.
Females, on the other hand, tend to deal less specifically with
technology, mechanical gadgets, etc., and go more for the
characterization and emotional aspects of the series. While I'm
definitely not a romance novelist, I do tend to focus on the
characters and their relationships a bit more. Sexist of me.
Perhaps. But I am what I am.
>
> However, all due respect to the TV Show itself, would it not have
> eventually died a natural and early death even WITH ratings if the
show didn't stop being a "chase, catch, escape" formula?
***The series suffered from TPTB's total lack of understanding of
the premise. I can remember the first time I saw it being shocked
that the humans actually spoke. It could've been taken to a much
high plane of excellence, but when you're dealing with executives
who think most of the audience has a 9th grade education, they tend
to 'talk down' to us. Sometimes I'm amazed that Star Trek ever made
it on the air.
>
> I'm currently looking at writing a NEW series of TV Show
adventures and I'm departing WILDLY from the tired formula because I
don't think it would have worked THEN, and I KNOW it wouldn't work
NOW (excuse my arrogance! :-)). Do you disagree?
***I honestly don't know. You haven't said where you're going to
take the series.
>
Ie if you were writing stories you hoped a TV Executive would pick
up and want to immortalise, would you try to "imitate" or embrace the
spirit of the TV Show or give it a new injection?> Michael
***I lived in LA, I worked in the industry, I'd NEVER allow an
executive to touch anything of mine ever. And I know that sounds
arrogant, but it's how I feel.
Theresa
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Date: 2/17/2005 |
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Respectfully,
People change T!
I think after 5 years with these 2 Galen would chew off his arm to get away!
And in REAL life, how many 3-way friendships SURVIVE? It usually ends up with 2 of them killing the
3rd and eating them!
So I must say the group dynamics in the TV Show 3some could go ANYWHERE…..the
trick would be explaining WHY to me.
And while I do see your point in a sense,
I think it might be time to get away from the stereotypes that made the 3
characters so predictable! I mean who
wants to read something when you KNOW it will end with all 3 on the road to the
next town after making a difference to another community?
The older I get, the more I experience how nothing is predictable –
particularly when dealing with group dynamics!
Michael
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From: tkarle_725
[tkarle_725@...]
Sent:
Friday, 18
February 2005
12:01
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: another
piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not Theresa;)
***Actually, I'm not getting these posts in any
kind of order so I
popped over to the homepage to do quick
replies.
Getting the characters right is the #1 most
important factor for me
in fan fic. If Pete Burke is slapping Galen
around and raping women
or if Galen suddenly enjoys eating beef and
betraying his friends,
I'm probably not going to stick around and finish
the story because
they aren't the character I know from the
television series.
"Oldtimer!" my hairy behind!!
You'd better run, girl.
T. (Theresa)
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From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: question about readership |
.html<I recall for years it has been a struggle to actually get people to
READ fan-fics.>
+++It all depends on the fandom. We don't have a big fanfic base in
POTA for sure.
<This is the main reason I sought a writer and a comic artist to
present fan-fic in a different way - via a comic book in small,
easily digestible chunks. We ended up with Beware the Beast, and I
would have to guess this was read more widely than most other fan-
fics.>
++I don't know, but I'd be willing to bet that is absolutely true.
>
< What other ideas do you have to get people reading?>
++You can only write what you love, do it because you love it, and
hope someone loves it with you.
No, that's not true. There are folks with the capacity to drum up
enthusiasm for lots of things, so why not fan fiction? I think maybe
you can engage folks or make them more aware, but it's lots of work
and success is never guaranteed.
One one big thing is that you REALLY never know how many people have
read your work. I get letters, off and on, but never very many.
There are some people who have told me they love my stories and it
is very gratifying. I, basically, just want to write and do my
projects. I have my own site so I put up what I want and again hope
others find the love of POTA and enjoy it with me. I will say that
depending on others to recognize my work only allows others to
control my happiness with or about my work. On the other hand, I
REALLY appreciate simple appreciation. Everybody does, I guess. I
wish every author and every person who put hard work into these
projects could get the appreciation they deserve. It does wonders
for the mood:)
Kass <.html
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Message: 26087 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: more from Dave... |
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just 'place two characters in a room and see what happens'.
4: Do you think you could tell, without knowing who the author was,
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Message: 26088 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
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.html --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
Theresa, are you mainly a POTA girl?
Helen
***Helen,
I've written in several fandoms, to include Trek (the original),
Starsky and Hutch, Lancer, and Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
Scattered Remains was probably my one-shot for PoTA, although I do
have two other unfinished stories in that one.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26089 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: writing apes as apes |
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> Also remember that the apes are apes; don't write them as human
beings.
>
> -- Roriopia
+++Rorister,
I'd like to hear you expand upon that. For example?
Cassiopediobaccilli <.html
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Message: 26090 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
.htmlI'm guessing Star Trek probably inspires the most fan fiction. Or
maybe Dr. Who. Are the Quick novels considered fan fiction? (I
haven't read them yet, but aren't they prequel stories for POTA
2001 -- which was, I think, itself, more of a fan fic.)
Helen
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "tkarle_725" <tkarle_725@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> Theresa, are you mainly a POTA girl?
> Helen
>
> ***Helen,
>
> I've written in several fandoms, to include Trek (the original),
> Starsky and Hutch, Lancer, and Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
> Scattered Remains was probably my one-shot for PoTA, although I do
> have two other unfinished stories in that one.
>
> T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26091 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Another from Dave... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> 2: Is there a single character you enjoy writing for more than any
> other. Do you think you could do, let's say, a Burke solo
adventure?
+++Burke is easiest to write for. Sarcasm and flippancy is an
easily identifiable trait of his. Virdon is hardest. He's more
the 'straight man'. Galen's fun, always curious, and I love the
light-hearted banter that goes on between him and Burke on occasion.
I wrote a long part for Burke without his companions in "No Price
Too Great". Alan loses his disc to the apes, you see, and it's all
Burke's fault. He has to get it back (thus part of the reason for
the title, "NPTG".) I prefer them all together. Writing for the
trio makes them come alive. It's that interaction again that I
like, the way they bounce off each other. So no, I don't want to do
a fic without all three of them, even if they're not in the picture
all the time.
Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26092 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Another from Dave... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> 2: Is there a single character you enjoy writing for more than any
> other. Do you think you could do, let's say, a Burke solo
adventure?
***In PoTA, I enjoyed writing Virdon the most (which is kinda weird
because I love/lust after Burke). But a Burke solo adventure? No.
For me, the series was about loyalty and friendship among the three
main characters. And that trilogy works a lot in television -- Joe,
Hoss and Ben; Kirk, Spock and McCoy; Galen, Burke and Virdon. There
are probably more, but I'm trying to think quickly and type even
faster.
Theresa <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26093 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Welcome Kass! |
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I can’t say too much yet, but I just
don’t see the reason to do more “episodes”. BUT, I’m glad others do and I love
reading them, and thinking (as I did with Values) “This could have been a
future episode!”
The reason I’m writing is to get
POTA back on the map, and to avoid that map containing ANYTHING like the Burton
movie.
AND to entertain people
and give them something to think about, and look forward to.
I think if I achieve this, some producer (Tarrantino?!?! Terry Gilliam?!?!?!
J)
might grab it and do something – maybe an
animated series on Sci-Fi Chanel?
No, I have no delusions, but I am going to
have a crack. Worst case scenario –
more COMICS! Neil, is your pencil
sharpened?
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: tkarle_725
[tkarle_725@...]
Sent:
Friday, 18
February 2005
12:23
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Welcome
Kass!
***I honestly don't
know. You haven't said where you're going to
take the series.
>
Ie if you were writing stories you hoped a TV
Executive would pick
up and want to immortalise, would you try to
"imitate" or embrace the
spirit of the TV Show or give it a new
injection?> Michael
***I lived in LA, I worked in the industry, I'd
NEVER allow an
executive to touch anything of mine ever.
And I know that sounds
arrogant, but it's how I feel.
Theresa
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26094 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I mean who wants to read something when you KNOW it will end with
all 3
> on the road to the next town after making a difference to another
> community?
***Actually, I would. I liked the premise then (and still do). I
know there are some others who want to read prequels, some sequels,
but in my own particular fan fic preferences, I want the characters
as they were on the screen, set during that time period, with no
wives or kidlets. I want that in all my fandoms.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26095 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: There ought not be a law... |
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.html What are the laws that would regulate the collection and
distribution of a fan directed compilation of original [POTA]
stories?
Helen <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26096 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: The following is from Dave Ballard |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> Mr. Ballard can kiss butt like nobody's business, can't he, T;)
> Seriously, that's so -- so freakin' NICE of Dave. He's one of the
> most talented guys around in my book (and many others). That's a
> huge compliment, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
> Kass
***Gotta love the boy, Kass!! He's amazing in both his talents and
his ability to boost egos and kiss tushies!!
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26097 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
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.html Here is another:
5: Do you think lady writers might have made any obvious difference
to the direction of the TV series? <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26098 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: question about readership |
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Well, you already know I love your stories
Kass.
I’m kinda fond of you too…well,
when you’re not nagging poor RORY!
J
As for appreciation – a parable is in order!
Last night my wife decided to make Jelly (Jello to
you guys I think?) for the girls to take to school.
It wasn’t good enough to give them one
flavour – they have a “Colours” day at school so they get a
rainbow.
Not just any rainbow, but a perfect
ROYGBIV in order, layered meticulously.
And 50 of them!
Do after 5 hours, at around
1am
,
I
wondered what the kids eating these would think. Would they have ANY idea how much time
and preparation went into it, and in context how
difficult it was because the twins have limited Sally and I to about 4 hours
sleep per night for a week.
Or would they just eat them, enjoy them,
then cry because they did not get seconds?
I think the latter.
And yes, if one of the kids DID cry
because they didn’t get seconds, they’d probably wear it and never
get another.
UNLESS they were MY kids whom I love unconditionally
– then I guess they’d feel my anger, I’d get some lip, we’d lick our wounds, learn a lesson and start
again! Lucky for them I would love
them enough not to abandon them.
So I guess we need to love the fan-fic writer?
J
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae
[valwp@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
12:23 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: question
about readership
<I recall for years it has been a struggle to
actually get people to
READ fan-fics.>
+++It all depends on the fandom. We don't
have a big fanfic base in
POTA for sure.
<This is the main reason I sought a writer and
a comic artist to
present fan-fic in a different way - via a comic
book in small,
easily digestible chunks. We ended up with
Beware the Beast, and I
would have to guess this was read more widely than
most other fan-
fics.>
++I don't know, but I'd be willing to bet that is
absolutely true.
>
< What other ideas do you have to get people
reading?>
++You can only write what you love, do it because
you love it, and
hope someone loves it with you.
No, that's not true. There are folks with
the capacity to drum up
enthusiasm for lots of things, so why not fan
fiction? I think maybe
you can engage folks or make them more aware, but
it's lots of work
and success is never guaranteed.
One one big thing is that you REALLY never know
how many people have
read your work. I get letters, off and on,
but never very many.
There are some people who have told me they love
my stories and it
is very gratifying. I, basically, just want
to write and do my
projects. I have my own site so I put up
what I want and again hope
others find the love of POTA and enjoy it with me.
I will say that
depending on others to recognize my work only
allows others to
control my happiness with or about my work.
On the other hand, I
REALLY appreciate simple appreciation.
Everybody does, I guess. I
wish every author and every person who put hard
work into these
projects could get the appreciation they deserve.
It does wonders
for the mood:)
Kass
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26099 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
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She said the B word (Burton
)!
Moderators!
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Message-----
From: ape_mom
[sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
12:31 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: inspiration
to write
I'm guessing Star Trek probably inspires the most
fan fiction. Or
maybe Dr. Who. Are the Quick novels
considered fan fiction? (I
haven't read them yet, but aren't they prequel
stories for POTA
2001 -- which was, I think, itself, more of
a fan fic.)
Helen
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"tkarle_725" <tkarle_725@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> Theresa, are you mainly a POTA girl?
> Helen
>
> ***Helen,
>
> I've written in several fandoms, to include Trek
(the original),
> Starsky and Hutch, Lancer, and Voyage to the
Bottom of the Sea.
> Scattered Remains was probably my one-shot
for PoTA, although I do
> have two other unfinished stories in that
one.
>
> T.
--
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26100 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: There ought not be a law... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> What are the laws that would regulate the collection and
> distribution of a fan directed compilation of original [POTA]
> stories?
> Helen
***Whoever owns the copyright would be the ones who made the
decision. I remember back in the mid-late 70s, Trek fans managed to
get their stories compiled and published in paperback form. And
they sold so well that the copyright owners kept letting them do
it. Several of those authors went on to do their own
Paramount/Roddenberry-blessed novels.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26101 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
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OH!
Can’t we kill of just ONE of them!!??
We’ll take his shirt off! J
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: tkarle_725
[tkarle_725@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
12:36 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: another
piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not Theresa;)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I mean who wants to read something when you
KNOW it will end with
all 3
> on the road to the next town after making a
difference to another
> community?
***Actually, I would. I liked the premise
then (and still do). I
know there are some others who want to read
prequels, some sequels,
but in my own particular fan fic preferences, I
want the characters
as they were on the screen, set during that time
period, with no
wives or kidlets. I want that in all my
fandoms.
T.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26102 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> Here is another:
>
> 5: Do you think lady writers might have made any obvious
difference
> to the direction of the TV series?
***Possibly. Depends on the lady writer. I do know what a lady
producer did to the prequel of Bonanza. Called Ponderosa, she
turned it into a politically correct mess of stereotypical
characters that no one could identify with. Of course, she's the
same one who gave us a morality lesson with an iron mallet every
week on Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman.
Of course, I'm not your typical 'lady writer' -- I like
action/adventure and as little romance as possible. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26103 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: There ought not be a law... |
.htmlI had actually heard something about that. But there is such a huge
fanbase there! Would FOX be the ones responsible for that decision
concerning POTA stuff? Boulle's heirs? Is this anything that
anyone actually has a desire to go for?
Helen
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "tkarle_725" <tkarle_725@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > What are the laws that would regulate the collection and
> > distribution of a fan directed compilation of original [POTA]
> > stories?
> > Helen
>
> ***Whoever owns the copyright would be the ones who made the
> decision. I remember back in the mid-late 70s, Trek fans managed
to
> get their stories compiled and published in paperback form. And
> they sold so well that the copyright owners kept letting them do
> it. Several of those authors went on to do their own
> Paramount/Roddenberry-blessed novels.
>
> T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26104 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
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Ally McGibbon?
No wait, that was
written by my all time favourite MALE TV writer!
-----Original
Message-----
From: ape_mom
[sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
12:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Dave had a bunch
of questions...
Here is another:
5: Do you think lady writers might have made any
obvious difference
to the direction of the TV series?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26105 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
.htmlAh. My kind of woman!!!
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "tkarle_725" <tkarle_725@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Here is another:
> >
> > 5: Do you think lady writers might have made any obvious
> difference
> > to the direction of the TV series?
>
> ***Possibly. Depends on the lady writer. I do know what a lady
> producer did to the prequel of Bonanza. Called Ponderosa, she
> turned it into a politically correct mess of stereotypical
> characters that no one could identify with. Of course, she's the
> same one who gave us a morality lesson with an iron mallet every
> week on Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman.
>
> Of course, I'm not your typical 'lady writer' -- I like
> action/adventure and as little romance as possible. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26106 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> OH!
> Can't we kill of just ONE of them!!??
> We'll take his shirt off! :-)
> Michael
***No. They're useless when they're dead, even with their shirts
off. I prefer them warm, alive, preferably sweaty and grimy, with
their shirts off.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26107 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Mike's questions re: the tv show |
.html>
> However, all due respect to the TV Show itself, would it not have
> eventually died a natural and early death even WITH ratings if the
show
> didn't stop being a "chase, catch, escape" formula?
++It's very popular to put the tv show down (though I'm not
inferring that you are doing so) by calling it a fugitive type
show. I don't regard that as a bad thing in itself, unlike LOTS of
folks. How long was "The Fugitive" itself on? Was it a bad show?
No. The quality of the writing, more than this formula itself,
makes or breaks a show. But there's more to it than that. there's
scheduling, advertisement, lots of behind the scene station
finageling (sp?)-- all that has to do with it and more. So to
answer your question, no, I don't think it HAD to die an early death
because of the "chase, catch, escape" formula. It had to have good
writing, and that's it, IMO. Good actors they already had.
> I'm currently looking at writing a NEW series of TV Show
adventures and
> I'm departing WILDLY from the tired formula because I don't think
it
> would have worked THEN, and I KNOW it wouldn't work NOW (excuse my
> arrogance! :-)).
>
> Do you disagree?
>
+++Yes. I think you can tell that based on my answer above. But by
saying that I don't mean that I disagree with you taking it into a
new direction. It's a good idea to go in fresh directions
. > Ie if you were writing stories you hoped a TV Executive would
pick up
> and want to immortalise, would you try to "imitate" or embrace the
> spirit of the TV Show or give it a new injection?
++If I were writing stories, I'd write what I've written. These are
the ideas that interested me enough to write them: a story about
Virdon's disc, could it tear the trio apart; is there a line Virdon
would NOT cross to keep that disc and his hope alive? A story about
the fugitives 10 years down the line, still on the POTA. Would the
three friends still be together? What changes have they endured,
what are they doing, how did they survive?
Okay, but IF i were going to be ambitious and write a story to try
and tempt a tv exec, it would have to be a new concept, being that
tv is a very different animal now than what it was then. I'd still
retain the bond of the fugitives, whoever they might be in my
version, and I'd try to emphasize the apes and their society. I
think I'd like to retain some of the menace and strangeness I got
from my impressions of the apes in the first movie.
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26108 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Last one tonight from Dave Ballard... |
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.html 6: Got any tips on how to make Pete Burke impulsive but not stupid,
Alan Virdon responsible but not dull? Galen inquisitive but not
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26109 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: There ought not be a law... |
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.html --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
I had actually heard something about that. But there is such a huge
fanbase there! Would FOX be the ones responsible for that decision
concerning POTA stuff? Boulle's heirs? Is this anything that
anyone actually has a desire to go for?
Helen
***I had someone approach me once about pro-publishing Scattered
Remains. I really wasn't interested at the time (still ain't). As
for who owns the copyright -- the last folks who marketed a film
about them, I guess. (And I won't say it.)
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26110 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
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OK T, I know this is getting personal, but
did you LIKE
Dr Quinn?
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From: tkarle_725
[tkarle_725@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
12:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave had a
bunch of questions...
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
<sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> Here is another:
>
> 5: Do you think lady writers might have made
any obvious
difference
> to the direction of the TV series?
***Possibly. Depends on the lady
writer. I do know what a lady
producer did to the prequel of Bonanza.
Called Ponderosa, she
turned it into a politically correct mess of
stereotypical
characters that no one could identify with.
Of course, she's the
same one who gave us a morality lesson with an
iron mallet every
week on Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman.
Of course, I'm not your typical 'lady writer' -- I
like
action/adventure and as little romance as
possible.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26111 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Values... |
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.html I am a huge, huge, way huge fan of the audio recording of Dave
Ballard's Values! I love audio drama (don't know what it is
technically called) and this was so well done I was in tears! Is
there anything like this being planned for a future presentation? I
would love to have more.
And to all those that were involved in that production, I have to
say thank you. It was/is wonderful.
Helen <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26112 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
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Can we compromise?
I know Kass has already seen Pete naked
thanks to Neil and Dave….maybe we could get you and Pete to have a
stimulating, shirtless conversation, then kill him something like Bobby in NYPD
Blue? J Seriously, there’s a
death that made ME cry!
Michael
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Message-----
From: tkarle_725
[tkarle_725@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
12:51 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: another
piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not Theresa;)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> OH!
> Can't we kill of just ONE of them!!??
> We'll take his shirt off! :-)
> Michael
***No. They're useless when they're dead,
even with their shirts
off. I prefer them warm, alive, preferably
sweaty and grimy, with
their shirts off.
T.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26113 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
.html> And in REAL life, how many 3-way friendships SURVIVE?
++I have the same two best friends I had from 10th grade. I don't
know it that is all that common, but it happens.
Kass> <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26114 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> OK T, I know this is getting personal, but did you LIKE Dr Quinn?
>
>***Hmmm, I thought I'd dripped enough sarcasm on her name. No. I
didn't like Dr. Quinn. That series could've been so much more than
what it was.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26115 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
.htmlWe had a teen in the house and she loved Charmed. I started
watching it with her. It has a campy sensibility about it and I
like the idea of three sister witches. A fun fandom. I wrote a 3
part story and a two part story for Charmed, my first ever fan fics.
In the last year I wrote a couple of Starsky and Hutch fics, too.
Kass
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> I may have missed a post, but are there other "fandoms" that you
> write fan fiction for, Kass?
>
> Theresa, are you mainly a POTA girl?
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Lots of things. you mean just for this fandom or in general?
> >
> > I'll answer it as what inspires me pertaining to this fandom.
> Pure
> > love of the relationship between the three friends, in a
> nutshell.
> >
> > But I always love the APES. I've been spellbound ever since the
> > original movie, and those terrifying faces coming through the
> field,
> > astride horses, hunting the dumb humans.
> >
> > I loved Roddy. Galen was my favorite of his characters. He was
> > funny, fussy, and very open-minded and generous. He lived by
his
> > principles and though he'd probably end up dying for them as
well,
> > he didn't let that deter him.
> >
> > Love James Naughton. Good Lord, he was my first major crush.
> What
> > a pretty boy! Rebellious, smart-alecky -- what's not to love;)
> All
> > praise the shirtless scenes...;)
> >
> > Urko. I remember him shaking that gun over the map during "The
> > Interrogation" -- what the heck did he have to have his gun out
> > for, shaking it? I love his blustering, his fierceness.
> >
> > But mainly the group dynamic. It's usually the personal
> > interactions that intrigue me enough to write.
> >
> > Okay, I'm rambling. I guess by this you can tell that I really
do
> > love the show, thoough;0
> >
> > It depends on how long it takes me to write something. I wrote
my
> > PoTA parody in one day at work. No Price Too Great and Echoes
> From
> > the Past were months long efforts.
> >
> > As far as what makes a story good? I think like I said in an
> earlier
> > post, knowing the characters, being able to write them
> recognizably.
> > Good dialog is important, especially in fan fic. A real live
> honest
> > to God plot.
> >
> > Kass
> >
> > ahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05" <elfgirl_06@c...> wrote:
> > >
> > > :) Don't feel too bad my siblings are all at least 20 years
> older
> > > than I am... acident baby!
> > > What inspires you to write? I know that authors of this genre
> > don't
> > > receive all that much feedback, but it is nice. But how long,
on
> > > average, does it take you to complete a story? What factors
tend
> > to
> > > make a story well written (besides grammar and spelling) and
> > > interesting enough to hold the readers attention?
> > > Kasey
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > OMG, I feel so old. Thanks, Kasey;)
> > > >
> > > > I had written a couple of fictions in another fandom. The
> dvds
> > to
> > > > the tv series came out and I bought them, thinking, well,
> let's
> > > see
> > > > how dumb the show really was. I thought because I was 12 at
> the
> > > > time that the show would probably seem juvenile to me as an
> > adult.
> > > I
> > > > was totally wrong. I love it now as much as then (though my
> > heart
> > > > was broken when the show was cancelled).
> > > >
> > > > I don't know if I'm good enough at it to give advice, but
I'd
> > say,
> > > > put your heart in it, have fun with it, and go over it again
> and
> > > > again for grammar and punctuation errors. Don't let your
love
> > for
> > > > the writing hinge on feedback, because that's a sure route
to
> > > > disappointment.
> > > >
> > > > Kass
> > > >
> > > > -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05"
> <elfgirl_06@c...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hum, let's see. I wasn't alive yet so I unfortunantely
can't
> > say
> > > > the
> > > > > same. But on to some questions...
> > > > > What promted you to start writing PotA fanfiction? Is
there
> > any
> > > > > advice that you would give to those of us who enjoy the
art
> of
> > > > > writing?
> > > > > Kasey
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hidalgo_girl05"
> > > > <elfgirl_06@c...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, welcome to anyone and everyone who writes
> fanfiction.
> > > I'm
> > > > > > > excited about being able to chat with some of my most
> > > favorite
> > > > > > > authors of PotA fanfictions.
> > > > > > > Kasey/Undomiel
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ++That's so nice of you to say:). I'm glad you enjoyed
> our
> > > > > > fictions. T and I have been fans since the series first
> > aired.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kass
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > > > > > > > Welcome Kass! We are thrilled you can chat with us
> about
> > > > > > writing,
> > > > > > > fanfiction
> > > > > > > > and pota. Elaine <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26116 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Can we compromise?
>
> I know Kass has already seen Pete naked thanks to Neil and
Dave..maybe
> we could get you and Pete to have a stimulating, shirtless
conversation,
> then kill him something like Bobby in NYPD Blue? :-) Seriously,
> there's a death that made ME cry!
>
> Michael
***I saw Kass seeing Pete naked ... believe me, I have nightmares
about that. But if you kill him, it has to be like Bobby in Dallas,
not like Bobby in NYPD Blue. Pete has to appear in a shower
(completely naked) and the whole year before was just a dream.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26117 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> > And in REAL life, how many 3-way friendships SURVIVE?
> ++I have the same two best friends I had from 10th grade. I don't
> know it that is all that common, but it happens.
Kass>
***It happens, Kass. Look at Paul, David and Antonio. 30 years and
still going strong.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26118 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Teams, etc.. |
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.html It's obvious that most of us here know each other from other groups,
too. I'm wondering... Other that Values, do you all get together
and conspire? I don't just mean you two, Kass and T. I'm wondering
if you do team efforts with Dave and other writers.
Helen <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26119 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> In the last year I wrote a couple of Starsky and Hutch fics, too.
> Kass
***And I know she won't toot her own horn here, but they both were
award-winning fics!!
So there, Kass!!
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26120 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Mike's questions re: the tv show |
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Cool – I’m not putting it
down. I love/d it genuinely, but it
is like an uncle I loved as a child then met years later to realise all the
flaws I had earlier missed.
And you are right, the Fugitive was
GREAT. That’s a very good
point!
But I do think the overall story arc for
the POTA TV Show needed work.
Yes, totally agreed, good writers are the
key.
And yes, that’s a perfect
illustration of what I was thinking – Virdon IS
human; there ARE things that would tempt him to depart from the set character
we encounter!
The disc is one…..and as Dr Z
discovered, the other is his
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Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae
[valwp@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
12:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] re: Mike's
questions re: the tv show
>
> However, all due respect to the TV Show
itself, would it not have
> eventually died a natural and early death
even WITH ratings if the
show
> didn't stop being a "chase, catch,
escape" formula?
++It's very popular to put the tv show down
(though I'm not
inferring that you are doing so) by calling it a
fugitive type
show. I don't regard that as a bad thing in
itself, unlike LOTS of
folks. How long was "The Fugitive"
itself on? Was it a bad show?
No. The quality of the writing, more than
this formula itself,
makes or breaks a show. But there's more to
it than that. there's
scheduling, advertisement, lots of behind the
scene station
finageling (sp?)-- all that has to do with it and
more. So to
answer your question, no, I don't think it HAD to
die an early death
because of the "chase, catch, escape"
formula. It had to have good
writing, and that's it, IMO. Good actors
they already had.
> I'm currently looking at writing a NEW series
of TV Show
adventures and
> I'm departing WILDLY from the tired formula
because I don't think
it
> would have worked THEN, and I KNOW it
wouldn't work NOW (excuse my
> arrogance! :-)).
>
> Do you disagree?
>
+++Yes. I think you can tell that based on my
answer above. But by
saying that I don't mean that I disagree with you
taking it into a
new direction. It's a good idea to go in
fresh directions
. > Ie if you were writing stories you
hoped a TV Executive would
pick up
> and want to immortalise, would you try to
"imitate" or embrace the
> spirit of the TV Show or give it a new
injection?
++If I were writing stories, I'd write what I've
written. These are
the ideas that interested me enough to write
them: a story about
Virdon's disc, could it tear the trio apart; is
there a line Virdon
would NOT cross to keep that disc and his hope
alive? A story about
the fugitives 10 years down the line, still on the
POTA. Would the
three friends still be together? What
changes have they endured,
what are they doing, how did they survive?
Okay, but IF i were going to be ambitious and
write a story to try
and tempt a tv exec, it would have to be a new
concept, being that
tv is a very different animal now than what it was
then. I'd still
retain the bond of the fugitives, whoever they
might be in my
version, and I'd try to emphasize the apes and
their society. I
think I'd like to retain some of the menace and
strangeness I got
from my impressions of the apes in the first
movie.
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26121 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
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I respectfully suggest you don’t share
a house with them?! J
I should clarify – 3 way friendships
where the 3 live together, and remain together.
Michael
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Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae
[valwp@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
12:56 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: another
piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not Theresa;)
> And in REAL life, how many 3-way friendships
SURVIVE?
++I have the same two best friends I had from 10th
grade. I don't
know it that is all that common, but it happens.
Kass>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26122 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
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Graet
!
For a moment there you lost all
credibility! J
Not really though – to each her own – I just
picked you as a “Dr Quinn SUCKS” person!
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: tkarle_725
[tkarle_725@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
12:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave had a
bunch of questions...
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> OK T, I know this is getting personal, but
did you LIKE Dr Quinn?
>
>***Hmmm, I thought I'd dripped enough sarcasm
on her name. No. I
didn't like Dr. Quinn. That series could've
been so much more than
what it was.
T.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26123 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: another piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not T |
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Oh dear – how about Alan then?
J
-----Original
Message-----
From: tkarle_725
[tkarle_725@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
1:01 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: another
piece of advice from the old whipper snapper (no, not Theresa;)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Can we compromise?
>
> I know Kass has already seen Pete naked
thanks to Neil and
Dave..maybe
> we could get you and Pete to have a
stimulating, shirtless
conversation,
> then kill him something like Bobby in NYPD
Blue? :-) Seriously,
> there's a death that made ME cry!
>
> Michael
***I saw Kass seeing Pete naked ... believe me, I
have nightmares
about that. But if you kill him, it has to
be like Bobby in Dallas,
not like Bobby in NYPD Blue. Pete has to
appear in a shower
(completely naked) and the whole year before was
just a dream.
T.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26124 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> It's obvious that most of us here know each other from other
groups,
> too. I'm wondering... Other that Values, do you all get together
> and conspire? I don't just mean you two, Kass and T. I'm
wondering
> if you do team efforts with Dave and other writers.
>
> Helen
***I've never teamed with anyone else; I don't think I could, but
not because of ego or anything like that. I'm just a very slow,
very, very picky writer. I wrote a Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
story back in the mid-1990s; it wasn't extremely long, but it took
me nine months (an appropriate time period, I guess). Scattered
Remains took six months.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26125 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Kass, Theresa, Kasey, Elaine... |
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.html Since we are celebrating women writers of PotA fan fiction... could
you run down a list of some of the women writers out there that are
writing PotA fanfic?
Helen <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26126 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Gotta go! |
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Hey, gotta go but I have really
enjoyed this.
I hope I won’t disappoint everyone with the new TV
Show comic “Going Home” (I have just seen roughs for the next 4
pages)!
Please take a look at our “Within” strip – Helen where did
you hide it? – and have fun with it….it is like a Haiku in that I
have a rigid guideline I formulaically apply but I am loving doing this and
Neil’s art is superb. See if
you can crack the formula! J
I realise you are both busy with other things and other
groups, but know you are both more than welcome to stay on the DG (and Helen’s
gonna need support if and when the guys get back
because she’s in BIG trouble!!! J).
All the best to you both.
Michael
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26127 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: more from Dave... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> 3: Do any of you plot your stories out in advance or is it
> just 'place two characters in a room and see what happens'.
++Both ways, but with POTA, I plot, at least somewhat. Remember
NPTG, Dave, when I was writing it? You'd say, "how are you going to
get them out of this?" and I didn't know, exactly. I had a loose
plot that got more complicated as it went along and at least some
inkling of how to get them out of the situation before i'd post the
next chapter.
>
> 4: Do you think you could tell, without knowing who the author
was,
> if they were male or female? What gives it away?
++Not always, but to me it seems you can tell once in a while:
sometimes, women have a "different" voice. sometimes that voice is
more "feminine" in the way they phrase things. More elegant, less
blunt, less clearly goal-oriented. Sometimes the stories are very
relationship-oriented rather than action-oriented. These examples
may be stereotypical, but still on occasion true.
I always feel that on the whole relying on stereotypes is a mistake.
Too limiting. Remember calling me "Kass Tarrentino"? I'd never
seen a QT film at that time:)
kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26128 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Gotta go! |
.htmlUm, "Within"? Um, I put it on my desk, I'm sure. It's possible
Raymond got it a little wet when he spilled soda on my keyboard this
morning, but I think if he did it will dry out. I was wondering
where it went, but I know it's around here somewhere.
REally.
Helen
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Hey, gotta go but I have really enjoyed this.
>
> I hope I won't disappoint everyone with the new TV Show
comic "Going
> Home" (I have just seen roughs for the next 4 pages)!
>
> Please take a look at our "Within" strip - Helen where did you
hide it?
> - and have fun with it..it is like a Haiku in that I have a rigid
> guideline I formulaically apply but I am loving doing this and
Neil's
> art is superb. See if you can crack the formula! :-)
>
> I realise you are both busy with other things and other groups,
but know
> you are both more than welcome to stay on the DG (and Helen's
gonna need
> support if and when the guys get back because she's in BIG
trouble!!!
> :-)).
>
> All the best to you both.
>
> Michael <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26129 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Gotta go! |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Hey, gotta go but I have really enjoyed this.
>> I realise you are both busy with other things and other groups,
but know
> you are both more than welcome to stay on the DG (and Helen's
gonna need
> support if and when the guys get back because she's in BIG
trouble!!!
> :-)).
> All the best to you both.
Michael
***Thanks and nice to meet you, Michael!! As for Helen, be kind!!
The lady's done good this week.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26130 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Gotta go! |
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You’re not too old for a spanking,
young lady!
-----Original
Message-----
From: ape_mom
[sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
1:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Gotta go!
Um, "Within"? Um, I put it on my
desk, I'm sure. It's possible
Raymond got it a little wet when he spilled soda
on my keyboard this
morning, but I think if he did it will dry
out. I was wondering
where it went, but I know it's around here
somewhere.
REally.
Helen
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Hey, gotta go but I have really enjoyed this.
>
> I hope I won't disappoint everyone with the
new TV Show
comic "Going
> Home" (I have just seen roughs for the
next 4 pages)!
>
> Please take a look at our "Within"
strip - Helen where did you
hide it?
> - and have fun with it..it is like a Haiku in
that I have a rigid
> guideline I formulaically apply but I am
loving doing this and
Neil's
> art is superb. See if you can crack the
formula! :-)
>
> I realise you are both busy with other things
and other groups,
but know
> you are both more than welcome to stay on the
DG (and Helen's
gonna need
> support if and when the guys get back because
she's in BIG
trouble!!!
> :-)).
>
> All the best to you both.
>
> Michael
--
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26131 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Gotta go! |
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I’ll be kind.
She’s done a wonderful job and I am honoured
to know her.
And you, and Kass.
Bye.
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: tkarle_725
[tkarle_725@...]
Sent: Friday, 18 February 2005
1:19 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Gotta go!
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Hey, gotta go but I have really enjoyed this.
>> I realise you are both busy with other
things and other groups,
but know
> you are both more than welcome to stay on the
DG (and Helen's
gonna need
> support if and when the guys get back because
she's in BIG
trouble!!!
> :-)).
> All the best to you both.
Michael
***Thanks and nice to meet you, Michael!! As
for Helen, be kind!!
The lady's done good this week.
T.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26132 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: more from Dave... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > 3: Do any of you plot your stories out in advance or is it
> > just 'place two characters in a room and see what happens'.
>
>
***Hey, thanks for finding this one, Kass. I remembered scanning
it, but I've been going so fast, I couldn't find it again. I
usually start out with an outline or a summary of what's going to
happen. And then I sit down and write, but I rarely write straight
from beginning to end. I might want to write Chapter 7 first, so I
do it. Then Chapter 2 calls, so I do it next. I'm not a slave to
the outline, though. Sometimes the characters step back from the
work, place their hands on their hips, and yell (loudly), "You want
us to WHAT?!" And I always listen to them. They know themselves
better than I do. ;-)
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26133 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: I'm still here... |
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.html It's been interesting this week to see different "favorite sites"
pop up amongst the girls. I was surprised to see that there is a
network just for fan fiction writers. Then I read in a news article
that writing fan fiction has actually become quite popular. I
really didn't know it was so huge. What other networks are there
for fan fiction authors?
What about outlets? Is the internet the only outlet
for "publishing" you work? Do copyright laws discourage you from
posting your work at other sites?
Helen <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26134 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: |
.htmlOK, which one is Kassidy and which one is Teresa?
What is your favorite fan fic subject? Is it "Star Wars"? "Star Trek"?
What do you think of "Mork and Mindy"? That's sci-fi, isn't it?
What is the germ of an idea? How do you decide what to write about? - - -
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:13 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: more from Dave...
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > 3: Do any of you plot your stories out in advance or is it
> > just 'place two characters in a room and see what happens'.
>
>
> ++Both ways, but with POTA, I plot, at least somewhat. Remember
> NPTG, Dave, when I was writing it? You'd say, "how are you going to
> get them out of this?" and I didn't know, exactly. I had a loose
> plot that got more complicated as it went along and at least some
> inkling of how to get them out of the situation before i'd post the
> next chapter.
> >
> > 4: Do you think you could tell, without knowing who the author
> was,
> > if they were male or female? What gives it away?
>
> ++Not always, but to me it seems you can tell once in a while:
> sometimes, women have a "different" voice. sometimes that voice is
> more "feminine" in the way they phrase things. More elegant, less
> blunt, less clearly goal-oriented. Sometimes the stories are very
> relationship-oriented rather than action-oriented. These examples
> may be stereotypical, but still on occasion true.
>
> I always feel that on the whole relying on stereotypes is a mistake.
> Too limiting. Remember calling me "Kass Tarrentino"? I'd never
> seen a QT film at that time:)
>
> kass
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26135 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> Here is another:
>
> 5: Do you think lady writers might have made any obvious
difference
> to the direction of the TV series?
+++I'd prefer to find some actual sci-fi shows with women writers on
staff and observe that show rather than speculate, because I'm sure
tv show writers have so many different influences converging upon
them that influence the work. There's so much to factor in that
could make a difference in the direction of the scripts - there's
the writer's immediate supervisors, the network itself, everybody
whose fingers are in the pie, so to speak, not to mention the
guidelines of the show's bible that the writer's follow. I can't
separate those readily in my mind from those differences that might
come about in scripts soley because they're written by a male vs. a
female. Are there many writers in the sci-fi and television
communities that are female, I wonder? Anybody know? somehow I
doubt it, but I have no real foundation for that guess other than
the fact that I know more men who like sci-fi than women (like in
this group, for example, if you consider POTA sci-fi, that is).
kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26136 |
From: John |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: FanFic |
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.html I have to admit that until Beware the Beast I didn't give Planet of
the Apes FanFic's a chane. I felt "why should I care about a story
written by some fan",it doesn't really count in the POTA universe and
is basically someones opinion of what "could've happened". Then I was
suckered into Beware the Beast because it was in comic form. Neil's
artwork was the way I had always invisioned a Planet of the Apes
comic looking. The story was original and I never found myself
saying "that's not right". I lost myself in the character just as if
it was comercially produced. I then second guessed myself. I mean, if
these three guys could do a comic that was that good, maybe I could
enjoy some of these other stories that were out there. I have since
become quite a fan of FanFic. Who better to write stories about these
characters than the people who love them as much as I do. I never
dreamed there would be that much Planet of the Apes material out
there without any help from FOX and most of it is really good. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26137 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> Here is another:
5: Do you think lady writers might have made any obvious
difference to the direction of the TV series?
>
> +++I'd prefer to find some actual sci-fi shows with women writers
on staff and observe that show rather than speculate, because I'm
sure tv show writers have so many different influences converging
upon them that influence the work.
***Kass,
The original Trek had a lot of women in the production staff,
including writers. D.C. Fontana who wrote many memorable episodes,
was female. Of course, back then, she had to use her initials in
order to be respected.
Are there many writers in the sci-fi and television
> communities that are female, I wonder? Anybody know? somehow I
> doubt it, but I have no real foundation for that guess other than
> the fact that I know more men who like sci-fi than women (like in
> this group, for example, if you consider POTA sci-fi, that is).
> kass
***I don't know since I rarely watch any scifi anymore. Since the
remake of POTA (the movie ... gag!) and the remake of Battlestar
Galactica (another politically correct nightmare), I've stepped back
from the current stuff. I could probably get very involved in
Stargate SG-1 though ... but I don't have time right now what with
the kidlet's activities and our beloved S&H. I'll probably glom
onto them when they go into second or third generation syndication.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26138 |
From: Dave B |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
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.html Yawnnnnnnnnnnnn...
I just got out of bed to say hello. I see Helen has done me proud
and it looks like things have been a roaring success.
I'm taking my teddy back to bed and I look forward to reading
through the night's post at a more decent hour.
G'night,
Dave B <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26139 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: |
.html--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
OK, which one is Kassidy and which one is Teresa?
***I'm Theresa (with an h)
>What is your favorite fan fic subject? Is it "Star Wars"? "Star
Trek"? What do you think of "Mork and Mindy"? That's sci-fi, isn't
it? What is the germ of an idea? How do you decide what to write
about? - - - Jeff
***My favorite fan fic subject at the moment is Starsky and Hutch,
although I also dabble in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Lancer
(the 1968-70 western) and a few others. As for Mork and Mindy, I
consider that a sitcom.
As for the 'germ of an idea' -- I set my brain on 'search and seize'
and when it comes up with an idea that I can visualize, I go for it.
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26140 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dave had a bunch of questions... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:
> Yawnnnnnnnnnnnn...
>
> I just got out of bed to say hello. I see Helen has done me proud
> and it looks like things have been a roaring success.
>
> I'm taking my teddy back to bed and I look forward to reading
> through the night's post at a more decent hour.
> G'night,
> Dave B
***Hi Dave!! We love you!!
T. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26141 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last one tonight from Dave Ballard... |
.html6: Got any tips on how to make Pete Burke impulsive but not stupid,
> Alan Virdon responsible but not dull? Galen inquisitive but not
> ignorant?
Dave Ballard, you write them that way all the time. Being one
doesn't automatically infer the flip side of the coin, and if it
does, disprove it. Impulsive doesn't mean stupid, it can also mean
lots of good things - like the fact that your heart sometimes prods
you into heroics before your brain catches up and calls you a fool
and stops you from doing something that should be done. Give Al
something to deal with that shows his keen mind. Give him a
desperate situation with high stakes and watch his determination and
strength of character, his toughness and cunning. Or give him a
woman and let him wrestle with (not her) the issues of what it means
when he betrays his loyalty to his wife - or does he? Galen isn't
ignorant if you show his flexibility, his ability to think and react
on his feet rather than focusing on the technologically-challenged
state of ape civilization.
Thanks for all the questions:)
Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26142 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last one tonight from Dave Ballard... |
.htmlWhat Kass said!!
Well, I have to run and get dinner. Thanks to Helen for inviting me
to this wonderful list -- and to Kass for suggesting it! I've had a
lovely, enjoyable time! Ya'll be good and, Helen, you need to take
over the reins more often!
Good night all.
T. (Theresa)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
>
> 6: Got any tips on how to make Pete Burke impulsive but not
stupid,
> > Alan Virdon responsible but not dull? Galen inquisitive but not
> > ignorant?
>
> Dave Ballard, you write them that way all the time. Being one
> doesn't automatically infer the flip side of the coin, and if it
> does, disprove it. Impulsive doesn't mean stupid, it can also
mean
> lots of good things - like the fact that your heart sometimes
prods
> you into heroics before your brain catches up and calls you a fool
> and stops you from doing something that should be done. Give Al
> something to deal with that shows his keen mind. Give him a
> desperate situation with high stakes and watch his determination
and
> strength of character, his toughness and cunning. Or give him a
> woman and let him wrestle with (not her) the issues of what it
means
> when he betrays his loyalty to his wife - or does he? Galen isn't
> ignorant if you show his flexibility, his ability to think and
react
> on his feet rather than focusing on the technologically-challenged
> state of ape civilization.
>
> Thanks for all the questions:)
>
> Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26143 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last one tonight from Dave Ballard... |
.htmlOh, I hate to see you go. Thanks for coming out to visit with us
Theresa. We have enjoyed having you. (I've been a little
distracted, by kids and meals and pets...) I've actually learned a
lot this evening. Thank you.
Helen
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "tkarle_725" <tkarle_725@y...> wrote:
>
> What Kass said!!
>
> Well, I have to run and get dinner. Thanks to Helen for inviting
me
> to this wonderful list -- and to Kass for suggesting it! I've had
a
> lovely, enjoyable time! Ya'll be good and, Helen, you need to
take
> over the reins more often!
>
> Good night all.
>
> T. (Theresa)
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > 6: Got any tips on how to make Pete Burke impulsive but not
> stupid,
> > > Alan Virdon responsible but not dull? Galen inquisitive but
not
> > > ignorant?
> >
> > Dave Ballard, you write them that way all the time. Being one
> > doesn't automatically infer the flip side of the coin, and if it
> > does, disprove it. Impulsive doesn't mean stupid, it can also
> mean
> > lots of good things - like the fact that your heart sometimes
> prods
> > you into heroics before your brain catches up and calls you a
fool
> > and stops you from doing something that should be done. Give Al
> > something to deal with that shows his keen mind. Give him a
> > desperate situation with high stakes and watch his determination
> and
> > strength of character, his toughness and cunning. Or give him a
> > woman and let him wrestle with (not her) the issues of what it
> means
> > when he betrays his loyalty to his wife - or does he? Galen
isn't
> > ignorant if you show his flexibility, his ability to think and
> react
> > on his feet rather than focusing on the technologically-
challenged
> > state of ape civilization.
> >
> > Thanks for all the questions:)
> >
> > Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26144 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Theresa, before you go... |
|
.html Please give us the name of your PotA fan fic again, and an address
where it can be found.
Thanks again for being with us.
Helen <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26145 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> It's obvious that most of us here know each other from other
groups,
> too. I'm wondering... Other that Values, do you all get together
> and conspire? I don't just mean you two, Kass and T. I'm
wondering
> if you do team efforts with Dave and other writers.
>
> Helen
++Dave and I beta each other's fan fics. We worked on the Ape
herald together, and Values, like you said. i distribute US copies
of Scrolls which John and Dave helm. Dave and I work quite a bit
together whenever we can. Mike, Dave, Neil, Greg and others on the
spanish comics. Let's see, I edited Greg's copy for both sets of
cards. Greg does like EVERYTHING, and shares with everyone. when
he has a tv project, he shares with me. (He scanned ALL the annuals
for me site, for one HUGE thing). one of the last projects I was in
on was the POTA tv series anniversary contest with Glenn and James.
A great experience.
T and I are in 2 fandoms together (well, actually 3, but I'm not
active in one of them and I don't think she is, either?). We have a
lot in common with our love of fan fic and big mouths.
Yeah I do a lot of group projects. Satisfies the creativity in me.
Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26146 |
From: tkarle_725 |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Theresa, before you go... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> Please give us the name of your PotA fan fic again, and an address
> where it can be found.
>
> Thanks again for being with us.
>
> Helen
***Glad I popped on one more time. The title is Scattered Remains --
takes place right after The Interrogation episode. You can find it
on Kass's lovely POTA site or at www.womenwritersblock.com . If you
go to the latter, click on Library, then my name, and it'll take you
to my page.
Thanks again for having me!
Theresa <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26147 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
.htmlI'm amazed at the amount of networking that happens and I think it's
awesome! I appreciate that you mentioned a sample of the variety of
fan fiction media that exists. The comics, the cards, the stories,
the audio, the contests, the magazines, etc.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > It's obvious that most of us here know each other from other
> groups,
> > too. I'm wondering... Other that Values, do you all get
together
> > and conspire? I don't just mean you two, Kass and T. I'm
> wondering
> > if you do team efforts with Dave and other writers.
> >
> > Helen
>
> ++Dave and I beta each other's fan fics. We worked on the Ape
> herald together, and Values, like you said. i distribute US copies
> of Scrolls which John and Dave helm. Dave and I work quite a bit
> together whenever we can. Mike, Dave, Neil, Greg and others on
the
> spanish comics. Let's see, I edited Greg's copy for both sets of
> cards. Greg does like EVERYTHING, and shares with everyone. when
> he has a tv project, he shares with me. (He scanned ALL the
annuals
> for me site, for one HUGE thing). one of the last projects I was
in
> on was the POTA tv series anniversary contest with Glenn and
James.
> A great experience.
>
> T and I are in 2 fandoms together (well, actually 3, but I'm not
> active in one of them and I don't think she is, either?). We have
a
> lot in common with our love of fan fic and big mouths.
>
> Yeah I do a lot of group projects. Satisfies the creativity in me.
> Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26148 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: inspiration to write |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "tkarle_725" <tkarle_725@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> > In the last year I wrote a couple of Starsky and Hutch fics, too.
> > Kass
>
> ***And I know she won't toot her own horn here, but they both were
> award-winning fics!!
>
> So there, Kass!!
>
> T.
++NO, I wouldn't have. But thank you. I was kind of surprised
myself at that.
Remind me to give you a hug later. or smack you. either or:)
Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26149 |
From: ron kenner |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Values... |
.htmli would like to order this.
where do i go?
ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
I am a huge, huge, way huge fan of the audio recording of Dave Ballard's Values! I love audio drama (don't know what it is technically called) and this was so well done I was in tears! Is
there anything like this being planned for a future presentation? I would love to have more.
And to all those that were involved in that production, I have to
say thank you. It was/is wonderful.
Helen
go vegetarian!

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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26150 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Values... |
.htmlHi Ron,
I actually think I have a couple left. I will be glad to check on
that for you if you'd like. I distributed them when Values first
came out.
Helen
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...>
wrote:
> i would like to order this.
> where do i go?
>
> ape_mom <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> I am a huge, huge, way huge fan of the audio recording of Dave
> Ballard's Values! I love audio drama (don't know what it is
> technically called) and this was so well done I was in tears! Is
> there anything like this being planned for a future presentation?
I
> would love to have more.
>
> And to all those that were involved in that production, I have to
> say thank you. It was/is wonderful.
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
>
>
>
> go vegetarian!
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26151 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
.htmlIs there a fan fic you fantasize aabout but wouldn't do because people
just wouldn't understand? - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Teams, etc..
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > It's obvious that most of us here know each other from other
> groups,
> > too. I'm wondering... Other that Values, do you all get together
> > and conspire? I don't just mean you two, Kass and T. I'm
> wondering
> > if you do team efforts with Dave and other writers.
> >
> > Helen
>
> ++Dave and I beta each other's fan fics. We worked on the Ape
> herald together, and Values, like you said. i distribute US copies
> of Scrolls which John and Dave helm. Dave and I work quite a bit
> together whenever we can. Mike, Dave, Neil, Greg and others on the
> spanish comics. Let's see, I edited Greg's copy for both sets of
> cards. Greg does like EVERYTHING, and shares with everyone. when
> he has a tv project, he shares with me. (He scanned ALL the annuals
> for me site, for one HUGE thing). one of the last projects I was in
> on was the POTA tv series anniversary contest with Glenn and James.
> A great experience.
>
> T and I are in 2 fandoms together (well, actually 3, but I'm not
> active in one of them and I don't think she is, either?). We have a
> lot in common with our love of fan fic and big mouths.
>
> Yeah I do a lot of group projects. Satisfies the creativity in me.
> Kass
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26152 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "tkarle_725" <tkarle_725@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > It's obvious that most of us here know each other from other
> groups,
> > too. I'm wondering... Other that Values, do you all get
together
> > and conspire
++Helen, I went off earlier and told you about some of the projects
where i teamed with others. If you mean strictly writing projects?
Well like I said, the Ape herald. We were able to write our own
articles and then the rest of the crew critiqued and made
suggestions for changes. I took over Gryph's project of trying to
get Galen have some er, fun with his girl-friend Kira, for the sake
of seeing if I could. I can't really do collaborations. I want to
write the way I want to write, no one else's. Would I try it? Not
with T. We're both too stubborn. I don't think so, but never say
never.
Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26153 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Kass, Theresa, Kasey, Elaine... |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> Since we are celebrating women writers of PotA fan fiction...
could
> you run down a list of some of the women writers out there that
are
> writing PotA fanfic?
>
> Helen
__Well of course, Kasey! She's doing good work and I love her
enthusiasm and her take on the characters. I believe I do see a
difference in the generations through her writing, which is great
and interesting. She has a writing partner I believe? or did.
Elaine! Elaine loves Urko, and I believe the group has been treated
to some of her work. Oh and gotta love those songs she's made up
this week! i was cracking up.
Dawn Cunningham put out a new POTA tv series story on her site
within the last year. I still really recommend her crossover
between highlander and POTA. I'm not one for crossovers but this
one was heavily POTA and provides a conclusion to the tv series, one
that I like very much.
Sheila Paulson also put a new one on her site last month, and will
have another out in April.
There are links or the actual stories at my fan fiction page on
site: http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/fanfiction.html"
THANKS TO ALL THE WRITERS OF THE POTA FANDOM. We keep it alive!
Kass <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26154 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
.htmlI have to say, the "Ape Herald" is pretty inspiring. I thought it was all
James. Sounds like it was a team. That was quality work and that people
worked on it without credit just is inspiring. Everyone deserves a round of
applause for that. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:02 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Teams, etc..
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "tkarle_725" <tkarle_725@y...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's obvious that most of us here know each other from other
> > groups,
> > > too. I'm wondering... Other that Values, do you all get
> together
> > > and conspire
>
> ++Helen, I went off earlier and told you about some of the projects
> where i teamed with others. If you mean strictly writing projects?
> Well like I said, the Ape herald. We were able to write our own
> articles and then the rest of the crew critiqued and made
> suggestions for changes. I took over Gryph's project of trying to
> get Galen have some er, fun with his girl-friend Kira, for the sake
> of seeing if I could. I can't really do collaborations. I want to
> write the way I want to write, no one else's. Would I try it? Not
> with T. We're both too stubborn. I don't think so, but never say
> never.
>
> Kass
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26155 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
.htmlMuch of the value of the PotaDG (and the other groups) is the
networking and the variety of new stuff that bubbles to the
surface. It amazes me how people just keep investing themselves in
projects that are basically just there for the enjoyment of other
PotA fans. Ape Herald was that, the comics are that, the cards...
I'm thankful for all the fans that provide that for us.
Helen
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
>
> I have to say, the "Ape Herald" is pretty inspiring. I thought
it was all
> James. Sounds like it was a team. That was quality work and that
people
> worked on it without credit just is inspiring. Everyone deserves a
round of
> applause for that. - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...>
> To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 7:02 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Teams, etc..
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "tkarle_725" <tkarle_725@y...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
<sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's obvious that most of us here know each other from other
> > > groups,
> > > > too. I'm wondering... Other that Values, do you all get
> > together
> > > > and conspire
> >
> > ++Helen, I went off earlier and told you about some of the
projects
> > where i teamed with others. If you mean strictly writing
projects?
> > Well like I said, the Ape herald. We were able to write our own
> > articles and then the rest of the crew critiqued and made
> > suggestions for changes. I took over Gryph's project of trying
to
> > get Galen have some er, fun with his girl-friend Kira, for the
sake
> > of seeing if I could. I can't really do collaborations. I want
to
> > write the way I want to write, no one else's. Would I try it?
Not
> > with T. We're both too stubborn. I don't think so, but never
say
> > never.
> >
> > Kass
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26156 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, <veetus@e...> wrote:
>
> Is there a fan fic you fantasize aabout but wouldn't do because
people
> just wouldn't understand? - - - Jeff
>
Glad you got your butt in here FINALLY. I've already done that!
Gonna hold my secrets over my head now?? It's more like, CAN i
write something and get people into it? It's a challenge.
Kass
(Without controversy, there is no jeff)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...>
> To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:53 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Teams, etc..
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's obvious that most of us here know each other from other
> > groups,
> > > too. I'm wondering... Other that Values, do you all get
together
> > > and conspire? I don't just mean you two, Kass and T. I'm
> > wondering
> > > if you do team efforts with Dave and other writers.
> > >
> > > Helen
> >
> > ++Dave and I beta each other's fan fics. We worked on the Ape
> > herald together, and Values, like you said. i distribute US
copies
> > of Scrolls which John and Dave helm. Dave and I work quite a bit
> > together whenever we can. Mike, Dave, Neil, Greg and others on
the
> > spanish comics. Let's see, I edited Greg's copy for both sets of
> > cards. Greg does like EVERYTHING, and shares with everyone.
when
> > he has a tv project, he shares with me. (He scanned ALL the
annuals
> > for me site, for one HUGE thing). one of the last projects I was
in
> > on was the POTA tv series anniversary contest with Glenn and
James.
> > A great experience.
> >
> > T and I are in 2 fandoms together (well, actually 3, but I'm not
> > active in one of them and I don't think she is, either?). We
have a
> > lot in common with our love of fan fic and big mouths.
> >
> > Yeah I do a lot of group projects. Satisfies the creativity in
me.
> > Kass
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26157 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: What do you wish someone would write? |
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.html Kass, is there a story that you wish someone else would write? What
is it? Who should write it?
Helen <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26158 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: I'm still here... |
.htmlI know that some fandoms have zines wherein all they have are fan
fiction. They're usually quite pricey. I even have one or two:0
Most of them come with a disclaimer, whether or not it is true,
which states they aren't making money.
fanfic.net is there for anyone who wants to post their fan fic. You
do it yourself, so it's easy. Just register with them and go.
They'll notify you if you get a review, even. Nothing rated worse
than R allowed.
There's also adult fan fic sites, if you like that. Then there's a
lot of yahoo fan fiction groups, some specific to certain fandoms,
others open to everything. There are yahoo fanzine groups, even,
for those who want new publications coming out from existing zine
producers.
About copyright: a lot of writers put a disclaimer on their work
("I'm making no profit, writing only for enjoyment. I don't own the
characters etc etc.) in hopes that it will save their butts if
someone comes after them. In my experience, the big companies don't
mess too much with us small fry, as long as we aren't stealing money
from their pockets.
So I'll probably get sued next week. :(
Kass
-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> It's been interesting this week to see different "favorite sites"
> pop up amongst the girls. I was surprised to see that there is a
> network just for fan fiction writers. Then I read in a news
article
> that writing fan fiction has actually become quite popular. I
> really didn't know it was so huge. What other networks are there
> for fan fiction authors?
>
> What about outlets? Is the internet the only outlet
> for "publishing" you work? Do copyright laws discourage you from
> posting your work at other sites?
>
> Helen <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26159 |
From: Kasey |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Kass, Theresa, Kasey, Elaine... |
.html
Yes, I write with a couple different people. Right now Fig and I are finishing up on the sequal for "Stranger". I'm very excited about it, but I wish that more people would
write pota fan fics. I can never get enough to read. Especially since I read over 650 words a minute, things don't tend to last as long as I'd like.
Kasey/Undomiel
--- "Kassidy Rae" < valwp@...> wrote:
From: "Kassidy Rae" < valwp@...>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 03:10:29 -0000
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Kass, Theresa, Kasey, Elaine...
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> Since we are celebrating women writers of PotA fan fiction...
could
> you run down a list of some of the women writers out there that
are
> writing PotA fanfic?
>
> Helen
__Well of course, Kasey! She's doing good work and I love her
enthusiasm and her take on the characters. I believe I do see a
difference in the generations through her writing, which is great
and interesting. She has a writing partner I believe? or did.
Elaine! Elaine loves Urko, and I believe the group has been treated
to some of her work. Oh and gotta love those songs she's made up
this week! i was cracking up.
Dawn Cunningham put out a new POTA tv series story on her site
within the last year. I still really recommend her crossover
between highlander and POTA. I'm not one for crossovers but this
one was heavily POTA and provides a conclusion to the tv series, one
that I like very much.
Sheila Paulson also put a new one on her site last month, and will
have another out in April.
There are links or the actual stories at my fan fiction page on
site: http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/fanfiction.html"
THANKS TO ALL THE WRITERS OF THE POTA FANDOM. We keep it alive!
Kass
Yahoo! Groups Links <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 26160 |
From: Kassidy Rae |
Date: 2/17/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Teams, etc.. |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, <veetus@e...> wrote:
>
> I have to say, the "Ape Herald" is pretty inspiring. I thought
it was all
> James. Sounds like it was a team. That was quality work and that
people
> worked on it without credit just is inspiring. Everyone deserves a
round of
> applause for that. - - - Jeff
Thanks. I only wrote an article (about Galen), but it was fun. The
group was a joy to work with, believe me.
Kass <.html
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