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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31571 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: New Comic proposed cover |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31572 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Ebay |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31573 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31574 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31575 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Howdy! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31576 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31577 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31578 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Ebay |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31579 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31580 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31581 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31582 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: New Comic proposed cover |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31583 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31584 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31585 |
From: Dario |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dr Zaius Davis |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31586 |
From: Dario |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31587 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31588 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31589 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31590 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31591 |
From: PhoenixCa7@aol.com |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31592 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31593 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Howdy! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31594 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31595 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31596 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31597 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31598 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31599 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31600 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31601 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31602 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31603 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31604 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31605 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31606 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31607 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31608 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31609 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31610 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31611 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31612 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31613 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31614 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31615 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31616 |
From: Dario |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31617 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31618 |
From: luke_the_drifter52 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31619 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31620 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31621 |
From: taebokitti@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dr Zaius Davis |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31622 |
From: taebokitti@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31623 |
From: taebokitti@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31624 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31625 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31626 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31627 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31628 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31629 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31630 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31631 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31632 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31633 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31634 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31635 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31636 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31637 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31638 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31639 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31640 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: A rose by any other name |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31641 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31642 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31643 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31644 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31645 |
From: PhoenixCa7@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31646 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31647 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: 40th Anniversary DVD!!!! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31648 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31649 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: 40th Anniversary DVD!!!! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31650 |
From: Melinda G Kettler |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within Strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31651 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dr Zaius Davis |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31652 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: POTA lollipop |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31653 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Ebay |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31654 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31655 |
From: HollowedOut |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: A huge favor from everyone in the PotaDG |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31656 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31657 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31658 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31659 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31660 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31661 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31662 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Nonsense |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31663 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Nonsense |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31664 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Nonsense |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31665 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Return cards now available |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31666 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: OT: "Fantasy" a reality |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31667 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: A huge favor from everyone in the PotaDG |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31668 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Fantasy" a reality |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31669 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Return cards now available |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31670 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: New Within strips. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31571 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: New Comic proposed cover |
.html
.html
Message
Here is the cover,
and the link to the cover again in case you missed it…
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/new%20comic%20cover%232%20art.jpg

-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Whitty
Sent:
Sunday, 4
September 2005
9:30
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] New Comic
proposed cover
Well there’s nobody talking
about the new cover – I’m amazed!
Seeing it the first time sent
shivers down my spine. But I have
always loved that finale of Conquest featuring Caesar’s speech.
As we all know, the version of
Conquest we saw was modified from the original they showed to test audiences
(because these test audiences thought it was too violent). The musical score was changed too
because it was “too scary”.
I wonder – if the new comic
generates enough interest…..maybe that could encourage Fox to dig through
the archives and do a release of the original version. But, hey, who even knows if it still
exists?
Michael
--
--
<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31572 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Ebay |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> This is interesting.
> Same person selling the lollipop is selling a holy grail of POTA
> collectibles - the radio.
> I must say this box looks too good to be true.maybe a repro?
-- Well being the curious person that I am I did email the seller and
asked if he could tell me the maker and year that the lollipop was
from. Here is the reply I got:
"I do not know the name of the company as their is no name or year on
card. I bought the only box of 25 lollipops at an auction in new york,
being a big Ape collector it was a rare find for me as I never had any
of the Chocolate lollipops as a kid"
Neil <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31573 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, PhoenixCa7@a... wrote:
> Strip 46 is the last one that I have.
-- Yep thst sounds about right to me so who wants to be first up to
see the next couple of chapters then?
Neil <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31574 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> -- Yep thst sounds about right to me so who wants to be first up to
> see the next couple of chapters then?
-- Of course that should read - 'Yep THAT sounds about right' sorry my
typing fingers need to go on a diet! ;-)
Neil <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31575 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Howdy! |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Great to have you on board.
> It actually makes all the hard work worthwhile when people
appreciate it (as you obviously do).
> Thanks.
-- Yeah I second that, welcome aboard!
Neil <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31576 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Neil, I think maybe we could show the next page of PENCILS for GOING
> HOME.
> What do you think?
-- Nah I don't think people would want to see that would they? I'm
sure everyone would rather wait for a finished page or two wouldn't
they?
Neil <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31577 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Seeing it the first time sent shivers down my spine. But I have
always loved that finale of Conquest featuring Caesar's speech.
-- I think this is a fantastic cover, I think I prefer it to the first
one. I am so happy to see the attention to detail on the costume, this
can only be a good thing and I really hope that that attention is
carried on with the interior art.
It will be interesting to see exactly how much of a connection the
cover actually has to the story, is it representing what is happening
in it or is it just one of those 'Marvel type' covers that looks great
but really has nothing to do with the story? Personally I think it
seems like it would be the former.
The only worry I have is the little monkey hanging onto Caesar(?)'s
left leg. Wonder what that is all about?
Neil <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31578 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Ebay |
.html.html
OK.
I have spoken to the guy who sold him that
radio.
His name is Mark and he’s the same
guy who has the only known GENUINE lollipop (that has Ploog
art I seem to recall).
I’ll find out more and get back to
you.
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005
10:20 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ebay
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> This is interesting.
> Same person selling the lollipop is selling a
holy grail of POTA
> collectibles - the radio.
> I must say this box looks too good to be
true.maybe a repro?
-- Well being the curious person that I am I did
email the seller and
asked if he could tell me the maker and year that
the lollipop was
from. Here is the reply I got:
"I do not know the name of the company as
their is no name or year on
card. I bought the only box of 25 lollipops at an
auction in new york
,
being a big Ape collector
it was a rare find for me as I never had any
of the Chocolate lollipops as a kid"
Neil
--
<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31579 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.html.html
I’d like to nominate our two newest
members.
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005
10:23 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Last Within
strip
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PhoenixCa7@a... wrote:
> Strip 46 is the last one that I have.
-- Yep thst sounds about right to me so who wants
to be first up to
see the next couple of chapters then?
Neil
--
<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31580 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.html.html
They seem to be a little bit drunk!
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005
10:26 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Last Within
strip
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> -- Yep thst sounds about right to me so who
wants to be first up to
> see the next couple of chapters then?
-- Of course that should read - 'Yep THAT sounds
about right' sorry my
typing fingers need to go on a diet! ;-)
Neil
--
<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31581 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.html.html
Is there something you’re not
telling me?
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005
10:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Last Within
strip
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Neil, I think maybe we could show the next
page of PENCILS for GOING
> HOME.
> What do you think?
-- Nah I don't think people would want to see that
would they? I'm
sure everyone would rather wait for a finished
page or two wouldn't
they?
--
<.html <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 31582 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: New Comic proposed cover |
.html.html
Ty
did mention that this comic is going to be CONTROVERTIAL.
Given the primitive gorillas on the cover
for issue #1 and the inclusion of primitive apes and a monkey on the cover for
issue #2, I am wondering if this means there will be something about primitive
apes included.
But then again, the Marvel comic covers
had flying monkeys…..so it could just be a cool cover!
I actually like this cover better than a
lot of the Marvel covers!
So to be consistent with the movies,
should CONQUEST Caesar have feet and shoes the shape of a human and Battle
Caesar have ape feet? J
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005
10:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Comic
proposed cover
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Seeing it the first time sent shivers down my
spine. But I have
always loved that finale of Conquest featuring
Caesar's speech.
-- I think this is a fantastic cover, I think I
prefer it to the first
one. I am so happy to see the attention to detail
on the costume, this
can only be a good thing and I really hope that
that attention is
carried on with the interior art.
It will be interesting to see exactly how much of
a connection the
cover actually has to the story, is it
representing what is happening
in it or is it just one of those 'Marvel type' covers
that looks great
but really has nothing to do with the story?
Personally I think it
seems like it would be the former.
The only worry I have is the little monkey hanging
onto Caesar(?)'s
left leg. Wonder what that is all about?
Neil
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From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Is there something you're not telling me?
-- No I just thought people would rather wait and see finished pages
rather than seeing the pencils and having the story or any suprises
ruined for them.
Neil <.html
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Message: 31584 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I'd like to nominate our two newest members.
-- Well if they ask they shall receive. Anyone?
Do you have copies of the next 2 chapters to send out or will I have
to do it?
Neil <.html
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Message: 31585 |
From: Dario |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dr Zaius Davis |
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Glad ya made it Anthony. Now I'd really like to hear the same from
John.
I've lived through to hurricanes, but they were both very mild. Just a
few trees scattered here and there. In both cases, I was visiting
another country, once the US and once Mexico.
The toughest I've had to endure was the big ice storm in Quebec about 7
years ago. No power for over a week doesn't sound that bad, but it sure
is when it's the middle of the winter and your only source of heat IS
electricity. Some had to endure it for 3 weeks so I'm not complaining.
Dario
Haristas@... wrote:
In a message dated 9/2/05 8:44:38
PM Eastern Daylight Time, abmac@... writes:
I
live 50 miles northwest of New Orleans. I lost electricity at 6 a.m.
Monday morning and just regained it about 5 p.m. today (Friday). I've
had internet access for less than twenty minutes.
The heat and humidity were almost unbearable, but worst of all was the
boredom. Anyway, I'm alive.
Anthony
I went through the same thing last year with Hurricane Francis, though
luckily I only lost power for a couple days. Living in the South in
summer is not pleasant if you don't have air conditioning, and not
having electricity in general sucks. Life before the modern electrical
age must have sucked big time.
-- Rory
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From: Dario |
Date: 9/3/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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Thanks for passing that along Neil. At last the 'classic ape' look.
Michael, don't'cha recognize those naked apes. Must be that shipment
from Borneo. You know, the one that not supposed to have Chimps. ;)
The question is who is the guy kneeling in front?
Dario
Michael Whitty wrote:
Message
This feels
more like POTA!
However –
what are those naked zoo
gorillas doing?
AND……is that
lion sculpture
supposed to be saying we are in NYC?
Hmmmm
…..nice
cover though!
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent: Saturday, 3
September 2005
9:20 AM
To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] New
Comic
proposed cover
I have
just uploaded the cover art
for issue 2 of the forthcoming comic from Metallic Rose comics:
This
proposed cover is a fantastic
painting by Dennis Rodier and here is a bit of news from Ty Templeton
about how
things are progressing:
Sneak
previews are starting next
week. Probably more towards the end of the week, rather than the
beginning. We still have yet to letter some of the pages in the first
issue. But we have pages from a couple of issues and a couple of
covers
now, so we're down to a matter of days, not weeks.
We had to
stop production for about
a month, because of a personel change in our lead feature penciller,
which has
been happily fixed. Our new penciller (Max Douglas, aka Salgood Sam,
of
Dr. Strange, Wonder Woman, Ghost Rider, etc. fame) is just finishing up
issue
one, while our OTHER lead penciller (Tom Fowler, of Green Arrow and
Star Wars:
Bobba Fett fame) is halfway through issue three.
Enjoy
folks!
Neil
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Message: 31587 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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Typically, mine are at work!
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005
11:38 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Last Within
strip
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I'd like to nominate our two newest members.
-- Well if they ask they shall receive. Anyone?
Do you have copies of the next 2 chapters to send
out or will I have
to do it?
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Message: 31588 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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In a message dated 9/3/2005 6:31:05 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
Well there's nobody talking about the new cover – I'm amazed!
The cover, nice as it is, makes no sense... Why have the Caesar figure drawn that way while his comrades in arms are "other looking"... <.html
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Message: 31589 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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The "Conquest" apes are supposed to be
primitive. Remember the naked orangs with Caesar? I don't have a problem with
"naked" apes (actually, they turn me on). But I don't know about the monkey.
Looks kind of silly. I preferred the first cover. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 6:16
PM
Subject: [PotaDG] New Comic proposed
cover
Ty
did mention that
this comic is going to be CONTROVERTIAL.
Given the primitive
gorillas on the cover for issue #1 and the inclusion of primitive apes and a
monkey on the cover for issue #2, I am wondering if this means there will be
something about primitive apes included.
But then again, the
Marvel comic covers had flying monkeys
..so it could just be a cool cover!
I actually like this
cover better than a lot of the Marvel covers!
So to be consistent
with the movies, should CONQUEST Caesar have feet and shoes the shape of a
human and Battle Caesar have ape feet? J
Michael
-----Original
Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005 10:58
AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Comic proposed
cover
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Seeing it the first time sent shivers down my
spine. But I have always
loved that finale of Conquest featuring Caesar's
speech.
-- I think this is a
fantastic cover, I think I prefer it to the first one. I am so happy to see the attention to detail on the
costume, this can only be a good
thing and I really hope that that attention is carried on with the interior art.
It will be interesting to see exactly how much of a
connection the cover actually has
to the story, is it representing what is happening in it or is it just one of those 'Marvel type' covers that
looks great but really has
nothing to do with the story? Personally I think it seems like it would be the former.
The only worry I have is the little monkey hanging onto
Caesar(?)'s left leg. Wonder what
that is all about?
Neil
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Message: 31590 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Well there's nobody talking about the new cover - I'm amazed!
>
Hi Michael, I must admit I like the new cover but the main reason
why
I've not really talked about the comics yet is I'd like to see what
the interior pages look like,once we see them I think more people
will
have things to say.
Best Graham.
>
> --
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31591 |
From: PhoenixCa7@aol.com |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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I would love to see the latest strips!
Thanks!
Jim <.html <.html
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Message: 31592 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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In a message dated 9/4/2005 6:50:10 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
The "Conquest" apes are supposed to be primitive. Remember the naked orangs with Caesar?
Then how is it that when they are going thru processing they magically transform into "POTA" apes? I think that all the apes seen in POTA are supposed to be seen as just generalized apes... I mean it's
stupid to believe that a creature that looks like Caesar would not stand out like a sore thumb in the midst of the so called "primitive" ape population. If there was supposed to be that much of a difference
there would be no question that he is different. They wouldn't have to do an investigation, he'd stand out as not even being an "ape"...<.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31593 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Howdy! |
.htmlThank you Mike for keeping the spirit of "Planet of the Apes" alive
Dan
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Great to have you on board.
>
> It actually makes all the hard work worthwhile when people
appreciate it
> (as you obviously do).
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michael
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31594 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.htmlGreat looking cover Mike
The style is different from "Within" and the others but looks
interesting Are you using another artist
When will the new comic be starting
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Here is the cover, and the link to the cover again in case you
missed
> it.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/new%20comic%20cover%232%
20art
> .jpg
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005 9:30 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] New Comic proposed cover
>
> Well there's nobody talking about the new cover - I'm amazed!
>
> Seeing it the first time sent shivers down my spine. But I have
always
> loved that finale of Conquest featuring Caesar's speech.
>
> As we all know, the version of Conquest we saw was modified from
the
> original they showed to test audiences (because these test
audiences
> thought it was too violent). The musical score was changed too
because
> it was "too scary".
>
> I wonder - if the new comic generates enough interest...maybe that
could
> encourage Fox to dig through the archives and do a release of the
> original version. But, hey, who even knows if it still exists?
>
> Michael
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Message: 31595 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.htmlI second that nomination Thanks Mike
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I'd like to nominate our two newest members.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Neil
> Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005 10:23 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Last Within strip
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PhoenixCa7@a... wrote:
> > Strip 46 is the last one that I have.
>
> -- Yep thst sounds about right to me so who wants to be first up
to
> see the next couple of chapters then?
>
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Message: 31596 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.htmlMe too
Dan
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PhoenixCa7@a... wrote:
> I would love to see the latest strips!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jim <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31597 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "cornelius382" <Cornelius718@a...>
wrote:
> Great looking cover Mike
> The style is different from "Within" and the others but looks
> interesting Are you using another artist
-- That is because that cover is nothing to do with our strips (Within
& Going Home etc.) It is for the new upcoming 6 issue mini-series from
Metallic Rose comics. I'm not sure when they are to be released I
believe it is sometime later this year?
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31598 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, PhoenixCa7@a... wrote:
> I would love to see the latest strips!
-- On the way to you now Jim. You know the routine by now, please
comment and nominate someone else to receive them next.
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31599 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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, "cornelius382" <Cornelius718@a...>
wrote:
> Me too
-- On the way Dan, when you have read them please be so kind as to
post a comment and nominate the next person to receive them.
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31600 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:
> I'd like to see what
> the interior pages look like,once we see them I think more people
will have things to say.
-- Well that's the thing isn't it. Until we get to see some of the
interior art we really won't know what we are in for. All we can do I
suppose is hope that it is as good as and reflects the cover art.
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31601 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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This is actually the cover for a brand new
comic that’s being released in North America
very
shortly.
It isn’t one that Neil and I have
done (ours don’t have a publisher yet) – it is the work of Metallic
Rose Comics (headed up by Ty Templeton).
Michael
-----Original
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cornelius382
Sent: Monday, 5 September 2005
3:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Comic
proposed cover
Great looking cover Mike
The style is different from "Within" and
the others but looks
interesting Are you using another artist
When will the new comic be starting
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Here is the cover, and the link to the cover
again in case you
missed
> it.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/new%20comic%20cover%232%
20art
> .jpg
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Sunday, 4 September 2005 9:30 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] New Comic proposed cover
>
> Well there's nobody talking about the new
cover - I'm amazed!
>
> Seeing it the first time sent shivers down my
spine. But I have
always
> loved that finale of Conquest featuring
Caesar's speech.
>
> As we all know, the version of Conquest we
saw was modified from
the
> original they showed to test audiences
(because these test
audiences
> thought it was too violent). The
musical score was changed too
because
> it was "too scary".
>
> I wonder - if the new comic generates enough
interest...maybe that
could
> encourage Fox to dig through the archives and
do a release of the
> original version. But, hey, who even
knows if it still exists?
>
> Michael
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31602 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote
>
> All we can do I
> suppose is hope that it is as good as and reflects the cover art.
>
> Neil
Totally agree Neil, It's funny but this talk about the new comic
has got me pondering why comics seem to play such an important role
in apes fandom, other cult films or tv shows have comic versions
(StarTrek and Star Wars) but they never seem to be as central as the
ape comics do.
The quality of the Marvel stuff obviously has a lot to do with this
but I think it's not the only reason.I just wonder whether in a pre
Video DVD world the comics were the only form of habitual
entertainment ( weekly, monthly)we could get, ones we could
constantly look over and cherish.This ofcourse builds quite an
attachment and can be contrasted with modern cult shows ,say Buffy,
where you can get the DVDs within months, constant re-runs,lots more
stuff,So there's not an attachment made to just one thing. Does any
the above make sense? What do you all think? Going full circle this
creates high expections for any new comics.
Best Graham. <.html
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Message: 31603 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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I absolutely
agree.
The Marvel
comics were the only way for we POTA fans top get a regular fix for a LONG
time.
In the modern
era, nobody would have done a comic of the movie would they? But they
featured ALL 5!
I still want
to know if there are any future issues pencilled/planned but never
released.
Michael
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote > > All we can do I
> suppose is hope that it is as good as and reflects the cover
art. > > Neil
Totally agree Neil, It's funny but
this talk about the new comic has got me pondering why comics seem
to play such an important role in apes fandom, other cult films or tv
shows have comic versions (StarTrek and Star Wars) but they never seem to
be as central as the ape comics do. The quality of the Marvel stuff
obviously has a lot to do with this but I think it's not the only reason.I
just wonder whether in a pre Video DVD world the comics were the only form
of habitual entertainment ( weekly, monthly)we could get, ones we could
constantly look over and cherish.This ofcourse builds quite an
attachment and can be contrasted with modern cult shows ,say Buffy,
where you can get the DVDs within months, constant re-runs,lots more
stuff,So there's not an attachment made to just one thing. Does any
the above make sense? What do you all think? Going full circle this
creates high expections for any new comics. Best
Graham. <.html
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Message: 31604 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:
>this talk about the new comic has got me pondering why comics seem
to play such an important role in apes fandom, other cult films or
tv shows have comic versions(StarTrek and Star Wars) but they never
seem to be as central as the ape comics do.
The quality of the Marvel stuff obviously has a lot to do with this
but I think it's not the only reason.I just wonder whether in a pre
Video DVD world the comics were the only form of habitual
entertainment ( weekly, monthly)we could get, ones we could
constantly look over and cherish. This of course builds quite an
attachment and can be contrasted with modern cult shows ,say Buffy,
where you can get the DVDs within months, constant re-runs,lots more
stuff,So there's not an attachment made to just one thing.
-- Excellent post Graham! I had never thought about it this way
before but what you say makes a lot of sense. I remember back in the
day when our Apes ruled the world I spent hours and hours just
staring at those comics for that very reason, it was about all the
Apes one could get. Other than that it was the TV show once a week
(and even that was gone before it really got started) or hoping that
one of the local cinemas would reshow one of the movies very, very
occasionally (if you got really lucky!).
I even taped Beneath when it was shown on TV on my little old
cassette recorder and listened to that over and over again, so I
suppose if we had videos back then I would have spent most of that
time watching them instead of re-reading the comics over and over.
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31605 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> In the modern era, nobody would have done a comic of the movie would
they?
-- Well they did for the POTA2001 re-hash.
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31606 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: New Comic proposed cover |
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I taped the
movies at the Drive-In "Go Ape" marathon (we only got 4 movies
though).
I also have
"fake memories" of the movies because I saw them a couple of times, and read the
comics HUNDREDS of times (and as we all know the comics are closer to the
shooting scripts than they are to the movies).
Michael
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000"
<shop@a...> wrote: >this talk about the new comic has got me
pondering why comics seem to play such an important role in apes fandom,
other cult films or tv shows have comic versions(StarTrek and Star Wars)
but they never seem to be as central as the ape comics do. The quality
of the Marvel stuff obviously has a lot to do with this but I think it's
not the only reason.I just wonder whether in a pre Video DVD world the
comics were the only form of habitual entertainment ( weekly, monthly)we
could get, ones we could constantly look over and cherish. This of course
builds quite an attachment and can be contrasted with modern cult shows
,say Buffy, where you can get the DVDs within months, constant
re-runs,lots more stuff,So there's not an attachment made to just one
thing.
-- Excellent post Graham! I had never thought about it this way
before but what you say makes a lot of sense. I remember back in the
day when our Apes ruled the world I spent hours and hours just staring
at those comics for that very reason, it was about all the Apes one could
get. Other than that it was the TV show once a week (and even that was
gone before it really got started) or hoping that one of the local cinemas
would reshow one of the movies very, very occasionally (if you got really
lucky!). I even taped Beneath when it was shown on TV on my little old
cassette recorder and listened to that over and over again, so I
suppose if we had videos back then I would have spent most of that
time watching them instead of re-reading the comics over and
over.
Neil <.html
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Message: 31607 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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Yup - and I
seem to recall this was available BEFORE the movie!
But generally
they don't do this right?
Michael
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote: > In the modern era, nobody would
have done a comic of the movie would they?
-- Well they did for the
POTA2001 re-hash.
Neil <.html
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Message: 31608 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.htmlHey Michael....I like the new cover too....I hope the
comic is as good....
I haven't been writing much as I am glued to the news
about New Orleans....and although I am so relieved
that the people are out of the squalor of the
Superdome and Convention Center.....they are now
showing other parts of the city and I'm still trying
to find out about my sister's house (she is safe!) so
I have been very distracted....APES is a good
distraction from the distraction tho! Very glad you
all are here!
Tim
--- Michael Whitty < whitty@...> wrote:
> Well there's nobody talking about the new cover -
> I'm amazed!
>
> Seeing it the first time sent shivers down my spine.
> But I have always
> loved that finale of Conquest featuring Caesar's
> speech.
>
> As we all know, the version of Conquest we saw was
> modified from the
> original they showed to test audiences (because
> these test audiences
> thought it was too violent). The musical score was
> changed too because
> it was "too scary".
>
> I wonder - if the new comic generates enough
> interest...maybe that could
> encourage Fox to dig through the archives and do a
> release of the
> original version. But, hey, who even knows if it
> still exists?
>
> Michael
>
> --
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31609 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> -
>
> -- Excellent post Graham! I had never thought about it this way
> before but what you say makes a lot of sense. I remember back in
the
> day when our Apes ruled the world I spent hours and hours just
> staring at those comics for that very reason, it was about all the
> Apes one could get. Other than that it was the TV show once a week
> (and even that was gone before it really got started) or hoping
that
> one of the local cinemas would reshow one of the movies very, very
> occasionally (if you got really lucky!).
> I even taped Beneath when it was shown on TV on my little old
> cassette recorder and listened to that over and over again, so I
> suppose if we had videos back then I would have spent most of that
> time watching them instead of re-reading the comics over and over.
>
> Neil
It really was a different world, I've just watched some of the Return
cartoons which Dave Ballard was kind enough to send me. I kept
wondering why the orange Urko seemed so odd, then I realised I'd only
ever seen these in black and white.
Graham. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31610 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.htmlIt actually makes sense that there would still be some
not so developed apes around....and no one ever
explained what happened to the monkeys
Tim
--- Michael Whitty < whitty@...> wrote:
>
> Given the primitive gorillas on the cover for issue
> #1 and the inclusion
> of primitive apes and a monkey on the cover for
> issue #2, I am wondering
> if this means there will be something about
> primitive apes included.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31611 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.htmlI want to see them!!!!!!!
Tim
--- Neil < nfoster@...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > I'd like to nominate our two newest members.
>
> -- Well if they ask they shall receive. Anyone?
> Do you have copies of the next 2 chapters to send
> out or will I have
> to do it?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31612 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.htmlI would imagine most Americans are hooked up with the
news....I've noticed the Brits and Aussies are talking
more here! What was the coverage of the Katrina
aftermath like overseas?
Tim
>
> > Well thereâs nobody talking about the new cover
> â Iâm amazed!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31613 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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Hi
Tim
Great to hear
she made it.
Hope the
house is still there, and if it is I hope the looters don't visit!
Let us
know what happens!
Michael
Hey Michael....I like the new cover too....I
hope the comic is as good....
I haven't been writing much as I am
glued to the news about New Orleans....and although I am so
relieved that the people are out of the squalor of the Superdome and
Convention Center.....they are now showing other parts of the city and I'm
still trying to find out about my sister's house (she is safe!) so I
have been very distracted....APES is a good distraction from the
distraction tho! Very glad you all are here!
Tim
--- Michael
Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
> Well there's nobody
talking about the new cover - > I'm amazed! > >
Seeing it the first time sent shivers down my spine. > But I have
always > loved that finale of Conquest featuring Caesar's >
speech. > > As we all know, the version of Conquest we saw
was > modified from the > original they showed to test audiences
(because > these test audiences > thought it was too
violent). The musical score was > changed too because > it
was "too scary". > > I wonder - if the new comic generates
enough > interest...maybe that could > encourage Fox to dig
through the archives and do a > release of the > original
version. But, hey, who even knows if it > still exists? >
> Michael <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31614 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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I have copise
of this and the Extended Battle if anyone needs them too.
Michael
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote: > - > > -- Excellent
post Graham! I had never thought about it this way > before but what
you say makes a lot of sense. I remember back in the > day when our
Apes ruled the world I spent hours and hours just > staring at those
comics for that very reason, it was about all the > Apes one could get.
Other than that it was the TV show once a week > (and even that was
gone before it really got started) or hoping that > one of the local
cinemas would reshow one of the movies very, very > occasionally (if
you got really lucky!). > I even taped Beneath when it was shown on TV
on my little old > cassette recorder and listened to that over and over
again, so I > suppose if we had videos back then I would have spent
most of that > time watching them instead of re-reading the comics over
and over. > > Neil
It really was a different
world, I've just watched some of the Return cartoons which Dave Ballard
was kind enough to send me. I kept wondering why the orange Urko seemed so
odd, then I realised I'd only ever seen these in black and
white. Graham. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31615 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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It is all
over the news, but not 24 hours as I imagine it would be in the
US.
Michael
I would imagine most Americans are hooked up
with the news....I've noticed the Brits and Aussies are talking more
here! What was the coverage of the Katrina aftermath like overseas?
Tim
> > > Well thereâ(tm)s nobody talking about
the new cover > â" Iâ(tm)m amazed! <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31616 |
From: Dario |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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I've always preffered the 'ape' feet with the stick out toe. I noticed
them in most of the movies, but did not immediately pick up on the fact
when 'normal' feet were used. Mind you that this is not a big deal for
me, just a nice touch.
As for the possibility that the story will be controvertial, that would
be great. I like my stories a bit spicy, just like my food.
Dario
Michael Whitty wrote:
Ty
did mention
that this comic is going to be CONTROVERTIAL.
Given the
primitive gorillas on the cover
for issue #1 and the inclusion of primitive apes and a monkey on the
cover for
issue #2, I am wondering if this means there will be something about
primitive
apes included.
But then
again, the Marvel comic covers
had flying monkeys…..so it could just be a cool cover!
I actually
like this cover better than a
lot of the Marvel covers!
So to be
consistent with the movies,
should CONQUEST Caesar have feet and shoes the shape of a human and
Battle
Caesar have ape feet? J
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Sunday, 4
September 2005
10:58 AM
To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re:
New Comic
proposed cover
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
<whitty@c...> wrote:
> Seeing it the first time sent
shivers down my
spine. But I have
always loved that finale of Conquest
featuring
Caesar's speech.
-- I think this is a fantastic cover, I
think I
prefer it to the first
one. I am so happy to see the attention
to detail
on the costume, this
can only be a good thing and I really
hope that
that attention is
carried on with the interior art.
It will be interesting to see exactly
how much of
a connection the
cover actually has to the story, is it
representing what is happening
in it or is it just one of those 'Marvel
type' covers
that looks great
but really has nothing to do with the
story?
Personally I think it
seems like it would be the former.
The only worry I have is the little
monkey hanging
onto Caesar(?)'s
left leg. Wonder what that is all about?
Neil
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Message: 31617 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/4/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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Agreed
As for the possibility that the story will be
controvertial, that would be great. I like my stories a bit spicy, just like
my food.
Dario
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31618 |
From: luke_the_drifter52 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.htmlThe last strip I have is 43. I would love it if someone would catch me
up to the current strip.
Thnaks
John
In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PhoenixCa7@a... wrote:
> Strip 46 is the last one that I have.
>
> Jim <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31619 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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Well someone
better comment on the one Neil sent 'em! :)
The last strip I have is 43. I would love
it if someone would catch me up to the current strip.
Thnaks John
In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PhoenixCa7@a...
wrote: > Strip 46 is the last one that I have. > >
Jim <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31620 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.htmlGood luck to your sister, Tim, and the others in the eye of the disaster.
The looting and so forth, it's not all black and white. I heard hotels in
Texas are increasing their rates substantially to take advantage of the
displaced people. And even New Orleans cops were looting DVDs from Walmart.
People like to see others as good or bad (and perhaps judge others before
they've walked in those shoes) but this shows how tenuous society can be (a
common theme of POTA). - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Comic proposed cover
> Hey Michael....I like the new cover too....I hope the
> comic is as good....
>
> I haven't been writing much as I am glued to the news
> about New Orleans....and although I am so relieved
> that the people are out of the squalor of the
> Superdome and Convention Center.....they are now
> showing other parts of the city and I'm still trying
> to find out about my sister's house (she is safe!) so
> I have been very distracted....APES is a good
> distraction from the distraction tho! Very glad you
> all are here!
>
> Tim
>
> --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> > Well there's nobody talking about the new cover -
> > I'm amazed!
> >
> > Seeing it the first time sent shivers down my spine.
> > But I have always
> > loved that finale of Conquest featuring Caesar's
> > speech.
> >
> > As we all know, the version of Conquest we saw was
> > modified from the
> > original they showed to test audiences (because
> > these test audiences
> > thought it was too violent). The musical score was
> > changed too because
> > it was "too scary".
> >
> > I wonder - if the new comic generates enough
> > interest...maybe that could
> > encourage Fox to dig through the archives and do a
> > release of the
> > original version. But, hey, who even knows if it
> > still exists?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --
> >
>
>
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31621 |
From: taebokitti@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dr Zaius Davis |
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In a message dated 9/2/2005 8:21:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Glad you are with us Anthony. > Neil, can we celebrate with new strips?
-- Okay but who is first and are we taliking about Within? If we are, can anyone remember what chapter we are up to?
Neil
Chapter 46? Elaine
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Message: 31622 |
From: taebokitti@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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I like this cover, it shows Caesar as being very powerful. Elaine<.html <.html
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Message: 31623 |
From: taebokitti@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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In a message dated 9/3/2005 5:23:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PhoenixCa7@a... wrote:
> Strip 46 is the last one that I have.
-- Yep thst sounds about right to me so who wants to be first up to see the next couple of chapters then?
Neil
I am ready for the next chapter. Elaine
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Message: 31624 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
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This weekend I picked up two excellent issues
of the entertainment trade paper "Variety". The first is the Sept. 1st issue,
which features Army Archerd's last column for them after 52 years, as well as a
nice retropective of his career. POTAers might know that he was friends with
Arthur Jacobs and did cameos in the "Ape" movies; he was the boxing ref in
"Escape" and played some apes. In fact, in his last column, among his memories,
he mentions visiting the POTA set and reporting on being made into an ape, as
well as when readers "joined me for a tear at eulogies I delivered to Richard
Burton and Arthur Jacobs". I guess he will still be writing for "Variety", but
not his famous column.
Also, "Variety" picked Fox execs Tom Rothman
and Jim Gianopulos as their "Showmen of the Year" in a huge magazine tribute (92
pages!) that has articles not only on them but on Fox itself and it's many
divisions. There's also interviews of Rothman by Richard Zanuck and of
Gianopulos by James Cameron. Nothing hard hitting. There's a POTA2001 picture on
the Zanuck interview but the film is not mentioned. There's a history of Fox
(during the last decade) that mentions POTA2001's record opening. There's
also a list of Fox movies in development. No POTA2 but Fox is planning remakes
of "Day the Earth Stood Still", "Fantastic Voyage" and "The Omen". They're also
not against sequels, with new "Die Hard", "Garfield", "Cheaper By the Dozen",
"Big Momma's House" , "Ice Age" and TWO "X-Men" films in in
development.
Fox is getting credit as the top studio of
the year so far at the box office, thanks to two movies that aren't theirs, they
only get a distribution fee ("Star Wars Episode 3" and "Mr. and Mrs. Smith") as
well as their own "Fantastic 4" (which is owned by Marvel, thus another
franchise Fox is doing for someone else while their own franchise POTA
flounders; are these guys financial geniuses or what? I guess as long as they
get their salary and it looks good on paper that's all that matters) and
"Robots".
There's also a list of Fox's top hits over
the last decade. The top 15 are: 1. "Titanic" ($1.9 billion worldwide); 2. "Star
Wars Episode 1" ($923 million ww); 3. "Star Wars Episode 3" ( $829 million so
far ww); 4. "ID4" ($817 million ww); 5. "Star Wars Episode 2" ($650 million ww);
6. "Day After Tomorrow" ($543 million ww); 7. "Die Another Day" ($432 million
ww; I guess they had a connection with this James Bond flick somehow); 8. "Cast
Away" ($428 million ww); 9. "X2" ($407 million ww); 10. "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" ($
384 million ww so far); 11. "Ice Age" ($382 million ww); 12. "True Lies" ($380
million ww); 13. "There's Something About Mary" ($371 million ww); 14. "Die Hard
3" ($361 million ww); and 15. POTA2001 ($ 360 million ww). Meanwhile, in my
opinion, Fox continues to turn out crap that take advantage of marketable ideas
that have good openings ("Fantastic 4", "Alien vs. Predator", "Day After
Tomorrow", "I, Robot") but don't capture the audiences fancy the way other
studios do. The last time Fox had the # 1 movie of the year was "Titanic" almost
a decade ago. So the idea that these guys are "Showmen of the year" is laughable
to me. Maybe they're "Slight of Hand Men of the year" or "Jump on George Lucas'
Bandwagon Men of the Year" but "showmen" in terms of putting on a good show?
Please. But it's a fascinating mag that provides a great rundown on
Fox.
In the August issue of "Cinefantastique",
Richard Zanuck says, "With POTA, it seemed we never had a chance to really do
what we wanted to do with it. Before Tim (Burton) even signed on, the studio had
a July 4 release date and there was no script. We started shooting in November,
we finished in March and we had to release it in July. It was just a panic all
the way through - - we were writing as we were going along and it wasn't the way
to make the picture". I think Burton (and Zanuck) have done an excellent job
post- POTA with "Big Fish" and "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" (my favorite
summer movie) and so my eye is more on Fox for the POTA fiasco. Burton should
have told them the schedule and script were unacceptable (like Oliver Stone and
James Cameron did) but probably felt he could make it work and do better with
the sequel. Meanwhile Fox continues to wallow in mediocrity. So I can't say I'm
much interested in a POTA sequel anymore. Fox will just screw it up again. Let
them knock themselves out building up George Lucas' and Marvel's franchises.
They don't deserve POTA. - - - Jeff
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31625 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
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Thanks Jeff.
Some very insightful
observations here.
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Monday, 5 September 2005
11:01 PM
To: the gang;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com; potacollective
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: "Variety"
is the spice of life/POTA2001
This weekend I picked up two
excellent issues of the entertainment trade paper "Variety". The
first is the Sept. 1st issue, which features Army Archerd's last column for
them after 52 years, as well as a nice retropective of his career. POTAers
might know that he was friends with Arthur Jacobs and did cameos in the
"Ape" movies; he was the boxing ref in "Escape" and played
some apes. In fact, in his last column, among his memories, he mentions
visiting the POTA set and reporting on being made into an ape, as well as when
readers "joined me for a tear at eulogies I delivered to Richard Burton
and Arthur Jacobs". I guess he will still be writing for
"Variety", but not his famous column.
Also, "Variety"
picked Fox execs Tom Rothman and Jim Gianopulos as their "Showmen of the
Year" in a huge magazine tribute (92 pages!) that has articles not only on
them but on Fox itself and it's many divisions. There's also interviews of
Rothman by Richard Zanuck and of Gianopulos by James Cameron. Nothing hard
hitting. There's a POTA2001 picture on the Zanuck interview but the film is not
mentioned. There's a history of Fox (during the last decade) that mentions
POTA2001's record opening. There's also a list of Fox movies in
development. No POTA2 but Fox is planning remakes of "Day the Earth Stood
Still", "Fantastic Voyage" and "The Omen". They're
also not against sequels, with new "Die Hard", "Garfield",
"Cheaper By the Dozen", "Big Momma's House" ,
"Ice Age" and TWO "X-Men" films in in
development.
Fox is getting credit as the
top studio of the year so far at the box office, thanks to two movies that
aren't theirs, they only get a distribution fee ("Star Wars Episode
3" and "Mr. and Mrs. Smith") as well as their own
"Fantastic 4" (which is owned by Marvel, thus another franchise Fox
is doing for someone else while their own franchise POTA flounders; are these
guys financial geniuses or what? I guess as long as they get their salary and
it looks good on paper that's all that matters) and "Robots".
There's also a list of Fox's
top hits over the last decade. The top 15 are: 1. "Titanic" ($1.9
billion worldwide); 2. "Star Wars Episode 1" ($923 million ww); 3.
"Star Wars Episode 3" ( $829 million so far ww); 4. "ID4"
($817 million ww); 5. "Star Wars Episode 2" ($650 million ww); 6.
"Day After Tomorrow" ($543 million ww); 7. "Die Another
Day" ($432 million ww; I guess they had a connection with this James Bond
flick somehow); 8. "Cast Away" ($428 million ww); 9. "X2"
($407 million ww); 10. "Mr. and Mrs. Smith" ($ 384 million ww so
far); 11. "Ice Age" ($382 million ww); 12. "True Lies"
($380 million ww); 13. "There's Something About Mary" ($371 million
ww); 14. "Die Hard 3" ($361 million ww); and 15. POTA2001 ($ 360
million ww). Meanwhile, in my opinion, Fox continues to turn out crap that take
advantage of marketable ideas that have good openings ("Fantastic 4",
"Alien vs. Predator", "Day After Tomorrow", "I,
Robot") but don't capture the audiences fancy the way other studios do.
The last time Fox had the # 1 movie of the year was "Titanic" almost
a decade ago. So the idea that these guys are "Showmen of the year"
is laughable to me. Maybe they're "Slight of Hand Men of the year" or
"Jump on George Lucas' Bandwagon Men of the Year" but
"showmen" in terms of putting on a good show? Please. But it's a
fascinating mag that provides a great rundown on Fox.
In the August
issue of "Cinefantastique", Richard Zanuck says, "With POTA, it
seemed we never had a chance to really do what we wanted to do with it. Before
Tim (Burton) even signed on, the studio had a July 4 release date and there was
no script. We started shooting in November, we finished in March and we had to
release it in July. It was just a panic all the way through - - we were writing
as we were going along and it wasn't the way to make the picture". I think
Burton (and Zanuck) have done an excellent job post- POTA with "Big
Fish" and "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" (my favorite
summer movie) and so my eye is more on Fox for the POTA fiasco. Burton should
have told them the schedule and script were unacceptable (like Oliver Stone and
James Cameron did) but probably felt he could make it work and do better with
the sequel. Meanwhile Fox continues to wallow in mediocrity. So I can't say I'm
much interested in a POTA sequel anymore. Fox will just screw it up again. Let
them knock themselves out building up George Lucas' and Marvel's franchises.
They don't deserve POTA. - - - Jeff
--
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31626 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.htmlOkay thanks I never heard of Metallic Rose
I will be on the look out for it
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> -- That is because that cover is nothing to do with our strips
(Within
> & Going Home etc.) It is for the new upcoming 6 issue mini-series
from
> Metallic Rose comics. I'm not sure when they are to be released I
> believe it is sometime later this year?
>
> Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31627 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.htmlThank you Neil Got them last night
As usual great artwork The story reminds me of "Beneath" which was
the first movie I saw as a child
I dont know what else I can say that wont give things away and I
really dont know any of the other members to nominate one
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> -- On the way Dan, when you have read them please be so kind as to
> post a comment and nominate the next person to receive them.
>
> Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31628 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.htmlOkay I nominate Graham LOL
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote
> >
> > All we can do I
> > suppose is hope that it is as good as and reflects the cover art.
> >
> > Neil
>
> Totally agree Neil, It's funny but this talk about the new comic
> has got me pondering why comics seem to play such an important
role
> in apes fandom, other cult films or tv shows have comic versions
> (StarTrek and Star Wars) but they never seem to be as central as
the
> ape comics do.
> The quality of the Marvel stuff obviously has a lot to do with
this
> but I think it's not the only reason.I just wonder whether in a
pre
> Video DVD world the comics were the only form of habitual
> entertainment ( weekly, monthly)we could get, ones we could
> constantly look over and cherish.This ofcourse builds quite an
> attachment and can be contrasted with modern cult shows ,say
Buffy,
> where you can get the DVDs within months, constant re-runs,lots
more
> stuff,So there's not an attachment made to just one thing. Does
any
> the above make sense? What do you all think? Going full circle
this
> creates high expections for any new comics.
> Best Graham. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31629 |
From: cornelius382 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.htmlI did Mike I liked it
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Well someone better comment on the one Neil sent 'em! :) <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31630 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.htmlWe don't know yet....the closest I've heard reports in
her neighborhood was there was only five feet of
water...we probably won't know for months until we can
get into the city...
--- "Whitty, Michael" < Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:
> Hi Tim
>
> Great to hear she made it.
>
> Hope the house is still there, and if it is I hope
> the looters don't visit!
>
> Let us know what happens!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tim
> "apefan"
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 9:01 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Comic proposed cover
>
>
> Hey Michael....I like the new cover too....I hope
> the
> comic is as good....
>
> I haven't been writing much as I am glued to the
> news
> about New Orleans....and although I am so relieved
> that the people are out of the squalor of the
> Superdome and Convention Center.....they are now
> showing other parts of the city and I'm still trying
> to find out about my sister's house (she is safe!)
> so
> I have been very distracted....APES is a good
> distraction from the distraction tho! Very glad you
> all are here!
>
> Tim
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31631 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "cornelius382" <Cornelius718@a...>
wrote:
> Okay I nominate Graham LOL
-- Cheers, thanks for that, copies are on their way to Graham now.
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31632 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "cornelius382" <Cornelius718@a...>
wrote:
> Okay thanks I never heard of Metallic Rose
-- That's understandable as they are a new comic company recently put
together by Ty Templeton and a few other Canadian comic talents. If it
wasn't for the fact that they were putting out a new POTA comic I
doubt we would have known about them at all!
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31633 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> This weekend I picked up two excellent issues of the entertainment
trade paper "Variety". The first is the Sept. 1st issue,...(etc)...
They don't deserve POTA.
-- Thanks Jeff, some very interesting things there but unfortunately
for us Apes fans apparently not a lot to get excited about! I agree
wholeheartedly with your last line.
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31634 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "cornelius382" <Cornelius718@a...>
> wrote:
> > Okay I nominate Graham LOL
>
> -- Cheers, thanks for that, copies are on their way to Graham now.
>
> Neil
Cool comics over the internet,I take it all back, the 21st centary
is a wonderful thing , who needs cassette recorders and black and
white Tvs :) Loved the strips!!
I'm amazed at how you ,neil and Mike, keep this up, such hard work
should be recognised more often than we do !! I'm sure everyone here
appreciates them so take a bow!!(I mean you wouldn't get me doing a
strip,producing that much work ,like pulling teeth, we're talking
bell tower and rifle after a few hours)
I'm still a bit new here so I hope I do this right but I nominate
Dario next for the strips
Best Graham. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31635 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "cornelius382" <Cornelius718@a...>
wrote:
> Okay I nominate Graham LOL
>
> Thanks for that!!
Best Graham. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31636 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html
.html
Thanks
Graham.
I hope you
have also seen "BEWARE THE BEAST".
And yes, you
are doing the right thing - a quick comment then nominate the next
recipient.
Cheers.
Michael
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote: > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
"cornelius382" <Cornelius718@a...> > wrote: > > Okay I
nominate Graham LOL > > -- Cheers, thanks for that, copies are on
their way to Graham now. > > Neil
Cool comics over the
internet,I take it all back, the 21st centary is a wonderful thing , who
needs cassette recorders and black and white Tvs :) Loved the
strips!! I'm amazed at how you ,neil and Mike, keep this up, such hard work
should be recognised more often than we do !! I'm sure everyone here
appreciates them so take a bow!!(I mean you wouldn't get me doing a
strip,producing that much work ,like pulling teeth, we're talking bell
tower and rifle after a few hours) I'm still a bit new here so I hope I do
this right but I nominate Dario next for the strips Best Graham. <.html
<.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31637 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Thanks Graham.
>
> I hope you have also seen "BEWARE THE BEAST".
>
> And yes, you are doing the right thing - a quick comment then
nominate the
> next recipient.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Michael
Morning Michael, (is it morning where you are? late evening in the
UK) yep seen Beware the beast, just wish I could afford to buy the
hard copies!! ( mutter mutter, self-employed, tax bill, mutter,
accountants bill, mutter)
Best Graham.
>
>
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31638 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Thanks Graham.
-- Michael are you going to send out the strips to Graham's nominee or
do you want me to do it?
Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31639 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
.htmlThanks Mike, Neil,
Sometimes I feel I'm overplaying Fox but I really feel that's the best way
to keep POTA alive. A new movie franchise, it doesn't take a genius to
realize how important that is to renewing interest in POTA. A GOOD movie. We
talk about why people are interested in the comic books. By now I'm pretty
jaded but I remember Adventure's POTA comic in, er, ... 1990? THAT was an
event and even though they weren't perfect they were POTA. Even at their
worst they were an event. I don't remember thinking, "This could lead to a
movie!" Somewhere in there I think Adam Rifkin was mentioned as a possible
director of a new movie. That seemed so incredible back then, but since
then: Oliver Stone, James Cameron, Tim Burton. Three of my favorite
directors. And then the movie turned out to be what it was. There's no
better indictment than that, than to spend a decade listening to the ideas
of Peter Jackson, Oliver Stone, James Cameron and Tim Burton, and that's the
best you can come up with? All those high priced screenwriters (and I've
read many of their scripts).
That's it. I'm not going to bring this up anymore. After POTA2001 I hoped
Fox could learn their lesson. Tim Burton DID, and if he went to Fox and
said, "Let me do it my way", I would be excited about that. But Fox owns
POTA and their current history does not provide me with hope. And, how the
film franchise goes, so does things like comic books, action figures and
trading cards. This should be a good time for POTA, given the unease in the
world. But Fox isn't that far seeing. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil" <nfoster@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:04 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > This weekend I picked up two excellent issues of the entertainment
> trade paper "Variety". The first is the Sept. 1st issue,...(etc)...
> They don't deserve POTA.
>
> -- Thanks Jeff, some very interesting things there but unfortunately
> for us Apes fans apparently not a lot to get excited about! I agree
> wholeheartedly with your last line.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31640 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: A rose by any other name |
.htmlFor those who think Hollywood is blind, they aren't. I went to John
Chambers' wake, where Rick Baker called POTA2001 a "bad movie". I forget the
name of it, but there was a cable TV series that did a special about
POTA2001 (I taped it, it's around here somewhere), in which Rick Baker
almost chokes mentioning they spent a decade doing POTA scripts, and
producer Ralph Winter seems to be sick when he says, "Well, that's the
ending Tim Burton wanted". I don't have any proof but I think the special
was made after POTA2001 was cursed by the public.
For his part, Tim Burton has vowed he will never start a movie that
doesn't have a final script, and he will never do a movie that has a release
date first. These are all a result of his POTA2001 experiences, as are his
wife (Helena Bonham Carter) and child; his producer, Richard Zanuck, and
others. But it's not worth talking about POTA2001 anymore. Fox sucks. - - -
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: <veetus@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001
> Thanks Mike, Neil,
>
> Sometimes I feel I'm overplaying Fox but I really feel that's the best
way
> to keep POTA alive. A new movie franchise, it doesn't take a genius to
> realize how important that is to renewing interest in POTA. A GOOD movie.
We
> talk about why people are interested in the comic books. By now I'm pretty
> jaded but I remember Adventure's POTA comic in, er, ... 1990? THAT was an
> event and even though they weren't perfect they were POTA. Even at their
> worst they were an event. I don't remember thinking, "This could lead to a
> movie!" Somewhere in there I think Adam Rifkin was mentioned as a possible
> director of a new movie. That seemed so incredible back then, but since
> then: Oliver Stone, James Cameron, Tim Burton. Three of my favorite
> directors. And then the movie turned out to be what it was. There's no
> better indictment than that, than to spend a decade listening to the ideas
> of Peter Jackson, Oliver Stone, James Cameron and Tim Burton, and that's
the
> best you can come up with? All those high priced screenwriters (and I've
> read many of their scripts).
> That's it. I'm not going to bring this up anymore. After POTA2001 I
hoped
> Fox could learn their lesson. Tim Burton DID, and if he went to Fox and
> said, "Let me do it my way", I would be excited about that. But Fox owns
> POTA and their current history does not provide me with hope. And, how the
> film franchise goes, so does things like comic books, action figures and
> trading cards. This should be a good time for POTA, given the unease in
the
> world. But Fox isn't that far seeing. - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil" <nfoster@...>
> To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 2:04 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001
>
>
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > > This weekend I picked up two excellent issues of the entertainment
> > trade paper "Variety". The first is the Sept. 1st issue,...(etc)...
> > They don't deserve POTA.
> >
> > -- Thanks Jeff, some very interesting things there but unfortunately
> > for us Apes fans apparently not a lot to get excited about! I agree
> > wholeheartedly with your last line.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31641 |
From: hill19652000 |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Thanks Mike, Neil,
>
> Sometimes I feel I'm overplaying Fox but I really feel that's
the best way
> to keep POTA alive. A new movie franchise, it doesn't take a
genius to
> realize how important that is to renewing interest in POTA. A GOOD
movie. We
> talk about why people are interested in the comic books. By now
I'm pretty
> jaded but I remember Adventure's POTA comic in, er, ... 1990? THAT
was an
> event and even though they weren't perfect they were POTA. Even at
their
> worst they were an event. I don't remember thinking, "This could
lead to a
> movie!" Somewhere in there I think Adam Rifkin was mentioned as a
possible
> director of a new movie. That seemed so incredible back then, but
since
> then: Oliver Stone, James Cameron, Tim Burton. Three of my favorite
> directors. And then the movie turned out to be what it was.
There's no
> better indictment than that, than to spend a decade listening to
the ideas
> of Peter Jackson, Oliver Stone, James Cameron and Tim Burton, and
that's the
> best you can come up with? All those high priced screenwriters
(and I've
> read many of their scripts).
> That's it. I'm not going to bring this up anymore. After
POTA2001 I hoped
> Fox could learn their lesson. Tim Burton DID, and if he went to
Fox and
> said, "Let me do it my way", I would be excited about that. But
Fox owns
> POTA and their current history does not provide me with hope. And,
how the
> film franchise goes, so does things like comic books, action
figures and
> trading cards. This should be a good time for POTA, given the
unease in the
> world. But Fox isn't that far seeing. - - - Jeff
>
Interesting points Jeff, particularly whether the spin offs need a
film franchise to energize them. How ever I think that some times
you need a period where the franchise lays fallow, just look at how
Paramount has run Star Trek into the ground,possibly doing some real
damage to its cash cow.
Best Graham.
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31642 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
.htmlTo a certain extent, I agree, Graham. If you look at the top movies of the
last few years, they began not as movies, but as: comic books ("Spiderman")
or novels ("Lord of the rings", "Shrek", "Harry Potter"). If a comic book
were to go beyond the traditional audience and find controversy, whatever,
where newspapers were writing about it (I remember there was a gay comic
book hero who got a lot of press, and also "The Dark Knight Returns" Batman
story led to the Batman movie franchise. But there's a sense that the POTA
movie franchise got chewed and spit out and it would take a lot to change
that idea. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "hill19652000" <shop@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 4:07 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > Thanks Mike, Neil,
> >
> > Sometimes I feel I'm overplaying Fox but I really feel that's
> the best way
> > to keep POTA alive. A new movie franchise, it doesn't take a
> genius to
> > realize how important that is to renewing interest in POTA. A GOOD
> movie. We
> > talk about why people are interested in the comic books. By now
> I'm pretty
> > jaded but I remember Adventure's POTA comic in, er, ... 1990? THAT
> was an
> > event and even though they weren't perfect they were POTA. Even at
> their
> > worst they were an event. I don't remember thinking, "This could
> lead to a
> > movie!" Somewhere in there I think Adam Rifkin was mentioned as a
> possible
> > director of a new movie. That seemed so incredible back then, but
> since
> > then: Oliver Stone, James Cameron, Tim Burton. Three of my favorite
> > directors. And then the movie turned out to be what it was.
> There's no
> > better indictment than that, than to spend a decade listening to
> the ideas
> > of Peter Jackson, Oliver Stone, James Cameron and Tim Burton, and
> that's the
> > best you can come up with? All those high priced screenwriters
> (and I've
> > read many of their scripts).
> > That's it. I'm not going to bring this up anymore. After
> POTA2001 I hoped
> > Fox could learn their lesson. Tim Burton DID, and if he went to
> Fox and
> > said, "Let me do it my way", I would be excited about that. But
> Fox owns
> > POTA and their current history does not provide me with hope. And,
> how the
> > film franchise goes, so does things like comic books, action
> figures and
> > trading cards. This should be a good time for POTA, given the
> unease in the
> > world. But Fox isn't that far seeing. - - - Jeff
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> film franchise to energize them. How ever I think that some times
> you need a period where the franchise lays fallow, just look at how
> Paramount has run Star Trek into the ground,possibly doing some real
> damage to its cash cow.
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Message: 31643 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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Could you
please?
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote: > Thanks Graham.
--
Michael are you going to send out the strips to Graham's nominee or do you
want me to do it?
Neil
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Message: 31644 |
From: Neil |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Could you please?
-- Yep, I had a feeling you would say that so I already sent the
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Message: 31645 |
From: PhoenixCa7@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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Thanks for the latest strips, Neil! Awesome!! The first was very brutal and gave a definite sense of what was going on. Very nice. The second was also outstanding. The likenesses were uncanny and right on!
Can't wait to see the next installment!!
I would like to nominate Tim to receive it next.
Thanks again!
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Message: 31646 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
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In a message dated 9/5/05 6:58:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
That's it. I'm not going to bring this up anymore. After POTA2001 I hoped
Fox could learn their lesson. Tim Burton DID, and if he went to Fox and
said, "Let me do it my way", I would be excited about that. But Fox owns
POTA and their current history does not provide me with hope. And, how the
film franchise goes, so does things like comic books, action figures and
trading cards. This should be a good time for POTA, given the unease in the
world. But Fox isn't that far seeing. - - - Jeff
Does anyone remember how, right after POTA2001 came out, I keep saying, "There will be no sequel. There will be no sequel." And how mad that made Alex (Remember him?).
Well, you didn't have to be a genius then to see how bad a movie it was and that as far as launching a new APES franchise it was an utter disaster.
I think eventually Fox will do a new apes film, but it'll be in 2030 or something... and it'll all be CGI... and we'll all be watching it on some future home video screen while we poop in our depends...
and it will suck.
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Message: 31647 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: 40th Anniversary DVD!!!! |
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A picture of the 40th Anniversary DVD of.....
THE SOUND OF MUSIC!!!!

Now, can Fox not be planning a 40th Anniversary Boxed set of the APES series?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31648 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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Onya.
I'm under the
pump at work at the moment - very busy!
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote: > Could you please?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31649 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: 40th Anniversary DVD!!!! |
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Soooo......what sort of extras do we get for the SOUND OF MUSIC
40th Anniversary Rory?
Is there
anything new and exciting or is it just re-hashed bullshit?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31650 |
From: Melinda G Kettler |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within Strip |
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I would love to see the next installment, if I may. Thank you for all
your hard work guys!
Melinda
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31651 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Dr Zaius Davis |
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In a message dated 9/2/2005 7:44:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
abmac@... writes:
The heat and humidity were almost
unbearable
Yeah, if I hadn't been born in Texas I wouldn't still be living here.
I doubt I'll will permanently. My A/C was a out for a couple few
hours and I had to go to the movies. March of the Penguins,
of course, the pictures of them freezing to death made me
feel cooler. My folks have the right idea. Straight to
Colorado
right at the beginning of summer, and don't come back until
it's over. I was at AnimeFest this weekend. It's at the
Hyatt
Regency right next to Reunion Arena where they took the
refugees. The hotel was packed all weekend with Search
and Rescue workers and their dogs from all over the country.
Not sure why they were their, but I guess you can only do
the kind of work for so long before you need a little R&R.
But all their busses and fire engines sure made it tough to
park. It sure was interesting though. All the Nevada and
LA and Riverside Rescue Squad uniforms juxtaposed to
all the Cat Girls and Cosplayers made it very surreal.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31652 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: POTA lollipop |
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In a message dated 9/3/2005 5:58:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
It does look like a
home-made product.
I saw some edible decals lolli's in a candy store window
in the West End this weekend. They had Elephants and
stuff on them. You can pretty much do anything these days.
Anyone going to get one done for a POTA Birthday Cake?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31653 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Ebay |
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In a message dated 9/3/2005 6:17:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
Same person selling
the lollipop is selling a holy grail of POTA collectibles – the
radio.
I must say this box
looks too good to be true…maybe a
repro?
For four frickin' grand I could have one made!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31654 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
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In a message dated 9/3/2005 8:09:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
I'd like to nominate
our two newest members.
I'd like to nominate myself,
as I've been in town all weekend.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31655 |
From: HollowedOut |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: A huge favor from everyone in the PotaDG |
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I'm still dealing with family issues... my father in
law had a really bad stroke two months ago so my
presence has been nil.
My Brother sent me this request and I was hoping y'all
might be able to help out, especially the ones from
other countries!!
Be back soon and take care everyone!!!
-Chris
Note: forwarded message attached.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31656 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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Here's my plan . . .
Fill in that Soup Bowl they've been living in
that's not only below sea level, it's below
lake level. It they need filler they can use all
the debris that's strewn from there to Alabama.
I
haven't been writing much as I am glued to the news about New
Orleans....and although I am so relieved that the people are out of the
squalor of the Superdome and Convention Center.....they are now showing
other parts of the city and I'm still trying to find out about my sister's
house (she is safe!) so I have been very distracted....APES is a
good distraction from the distraction tho! Very glad you all are
here!
Tim
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31657 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Variety" is the spice of life/POTA2001 |
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In a message dated 9/5/2005 7:16:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
Well,
you didn't have to be a genius then to see how bad a movie it was
That's not what you said in that review! Entertaining I think you called
it. And
it is. When I'm really really really bored.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31658 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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Am I alone in thinking this sollution lacks
a great deal of sensitivity?
Here's my plan . . .
Fill in that Soup Bowl they've been living in
that's not only below sea level, it's below
lake level. It they need filler they can use all
the debris that's strewn from there to Alabama.
I haven't been writing much
as I am glued to the news about New Orleans....and although I am so
relieved that the people are out of the squalor of the Superdome and
Convention Center.....they are now showing other parts of the city and
I'm still trying to find out about my sister's house (she is safe!)
so I have been very distracted....APES is a good distraction from the
distraction tho! Very glad you all are
here!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31659 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Last Within strip |
.htmlTHANKS JIM!!!!
Tim
--- PhoenixCa7@... wrote:
> Thanks for the latest strips, Neil! Awesome!! The
> first was very brutal and
> gave a definite sense of what was going on. Very
> nice. The second was also
> outstanding. The likenesses were uncanny and right
> on! Can't wait to see the next
> installment!!
>
> I would like to nominate Tim to receive it next.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Jim
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31660 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Anniversary Reminder |
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Return to the Planet of the Apes Premier
Tuesday September 6, 2005
All Day
This event repeats every year.
Notes:
The Return to the POTA cartoon series premiered on this day in 1975
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31661 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/5/2005 |
| Subject: Re: New Comic proposed cover |
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In a message dated 9/5/2005 10:45:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Am I alone in thinking this sollution lacks a great
deal of sensitivity?
If you don't like that one, wait till you hear my plan for Venice!
Every century or so they've had to rebuild it on the old one.
Well now they say they can't because it's an antique. I
say, too bad! If there's anything you want to save, cart it
off to a museum, pronto! then get on with the rebuilding!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31662 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Nonsense |
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If you are trying to get your ass booted off
the group you are going the right way about it.
In a message dated 9/5/2005 10:45:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Am I alone in thinking this sollution lacks a great
deal of sensitivity?
If you don't like that one, wait till you hear my plan for Venice!
Every century or so they've had to rebuild it on the old one.
Well now they say they can't because it's an antique. I
say, too bad! If there's anything you want to save, cart it
off to a museum, pronto! then get on with the rebuilding!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31663 |
From: LordTZer0@AOL.com |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Nonsense |
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In a message dated 9/6/2005 12:10:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Michael.Whitty@... writes:
If you are trying to get your ass booted off the
group you are going the right way about it.
No I'm saying that those are just things.
And people are more important than things.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31664 |
From: Whitty, Michael |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Nonsense |
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Well, Tim's sister might have lost ALL these
fucking THINGS, T.
Sure, if she lost her life it would be worse
but a whole lot of people's lives are now fucked up and what you are saying is
ridiculous.
Please stop all comments on this group about
this now, it has a very limited future for you.
Michael
In a message dated 9/6/2005 12:10:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Michael.Whitty@... writes:
If you are trying to get your ass booted off the
group you are going the right way about it.
No I'm saying that those are just things.
And people are more important than things.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31665 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Return cards now available |
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To celebrate the 30th anniversary of our favorite cartoon, a set of trading cards using images and adapting the stories from the first three episodes can now be viewed on Hunter's site.
For this set I abandoned the design used for the movie and TV sets and came up with something that I think feels like what Topps would have produced had they done the set back in 1975. The design has nods to the
original TV series set and the novelizations of the cartoon episodes.
My thanks as always to Neil Foster for his stunning wrapper art and to Kassidy Rae for her editorial assistance and encouragement with the card copy. Thanks also to Hunter for hosting the cards and to mastering the
DVDs so I could get decent screen grabs from these episodes.
Hi-res printable files and the raw screen grabs will be available soon.
Greg <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31666 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: OT: "Fantasy" a reality |
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We know him best as the kindly circus owner
Armando, but to the rest of the world he was Mr. Roarke, the proprietor of
"Fantasy Island". Now Ricardo Montalban's famous show is coming to DVD. There's
an announcement plus cover art at ;
Each week had guest stars, so there's no
telling when a POTA guest will show up. I remember there was an episode where
Roddy played the Devil, and faced off against Montalban (don't remember the
season). And of course we all remember his loveable friend Tatoo, whose favorite
donut was "the plain! the plain!". The first season comes out Nov. 15 and
includes the original two TV movies and the first 14 episodes. That's Montalban
overdose! - - - Jeff
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31667 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: A huge favor from everyone in the PotaDG |
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Thanks Chris – I’ll be sending
a postcard!
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HollowedOut
Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2005
12:57 PM
To: POTA group
Subject: [PotaDG] A huge favor
from everyone in the PotaDG
I'm still dealing with family
issues... my father in
law had a really bad stroke two months ago so my
presence has been nil.
My Brother sent me this request and I was hoping
y'all
might be able to help out, especially the ones
from
other countries!!
Be back soon and take care everyone!!!
-Chris
Note: forwarded message attached.
______________________________________________________
Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina
relief effort.
http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31668 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: OT: "Fantasy" a reality |
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Thanks Jeff…..I think! God I hated that show!
J
But then I hated Quantum Leap for years,
the re-evaluated…….
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2005
11:10 PM
To: potacollective;
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com; the gang
Subject: [PotaDG] OT:
"Fantasy" a reality
We know him best as the
kindly circus owner Armando, but to the rest of the world he was Mr. Roarke,
the proprietor of "Fantasy Island". Now Ricardo Montalban's famous
show is coming to DVD. There's an announcement plus cover art at ;
Each week had guest stars, so
there's no telling when a POTA guest will show up. I remember there was an
episode where Roddy played the Devil, and faced off against Montalban (don't
remember the season). And of course we all remember his loveable friend Tatoo,
whose favorite donut was "the plain! the plain!". The first season
comes out Nov. 15 and includes the original two TV movies and the first 14
episodes. That's Montalban overdose! - - - Jeff
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31669 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: Re: Return cards now available |
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Hey Greg
These are fantastic!
Neil, love the artwork as usual! Are the puzzles from Neil’s panoramic
exercises?
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Plonowski
Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2005
10:33 PM
To: friends & fugitives; pota;
PotaDG
Subject: [PotaDG] Return cards now
available
To celebrate the 30th
anniversary of our favorite cartoon, a set of trading cards using images and
adapting the stories from the first three episodes can now be viewed on
Hunter's site.
For this set I abandoned
the design used for the movie and TV sets and came up with something that I
think feels like what Topps would have produced had they done the set back in
1975. The design has nods to the original TV series set and the novelizations
of the cartoon episodes.
My thanks as always to
Neil Foster for his stunning wrapper art and to Kassidy Rae for her editorial
assistance and encouragement with the card copy. Thanks also to Hunter for
hosting the cards and to mastering the DVDs so I could get decent screen grabs
from these episodes.
Hi-res printable files
and the raw screen grabs will be available soon.
Greg
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 31670 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 9/6/2005 |
| Subject: New Within strips. |
.htmlGot the new strips. (Thanks Neil).
Someone mentioned that these will relive the excitment of Beneath and
I wholeheartly agree. Not gonna say what images were used in these,
but they represent some of the classical elements that I at least
associate with Beneath. The violence in image 47 more remeniscient of
Conquest than Beneath, but of course there was plenty of violence in
both movies. For some reason the biggest reaction to violence that I
have when viewing Beneath has always been when 'Ongaro' meets his
maker. I thought that the filming of that scene was very gruesome,
closely followed by Brent's demise. The whole blowing up the planet
thing is really downplayed, compared to those death scenes.
Thanks for the strips guys!
(Not sure who still needs to see the new strips. Anyone? Anyone?
Bueller? Anyone?)
Dario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
Date: Monday, September 5, 2005 7:41 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New Comic proposed cover
> Could you please?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
> Behalf Of
> Neil
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:18 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Comic proposed cover
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> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Graham.
>
> -- Michael are you going to send out the strips to Graham's
> nominee or
> do you want me to do it?
>
> Neil
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