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In a message dated 1/28/2006 3:33:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

And all those corny lines they adapted from the original….

 

Don't remind me.

If you ever feel the need to watch it,

though I can't imagine why, cut those,

Limbo's one-liners, and Heston's scene.

Oh and a bout half the battle at the end.

Then it's almost watchable.  Almost.

 

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In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:39:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Neil does get depressed by the lack of input

 

Really?  Then allow me to sing his praise once again.

 

Best Zira drawing, ever!

 

 ~~~In the voice of Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons~~~~

 

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In a message dated 1/28/2006 5:41:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:

Neil's artwork is brilliant

 

Not only the characters but the backgrounds as well.

And he does nifty explosions too.

 

 

 

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The Batman style POTA drawings are too funny!

Neil really is an artistic chameleon.

 

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In a message dated 1/28/2006 6:46:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Tuska claims the hand and gun are his, and he is FURIOUS that the APE HEAD is NOT!

 

It's not the first forgery I've seen.  I've got a Kim Hunter caricature

from Sardi's.  She told me there was one, but it was still hanging in the

restaurant.  And she didn't think the fake was very flattering. I was

going to report it to eBay.  But then I thought how many people

have this kind of forgery?  In a way it's kind of unique itself.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/28/2006 7:14:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

..gotta go play cricket..LATER!

 

Bowl a googly.

I don't know what that is

but it's cricket talk.

Bit of a sticky wicket, what?

 

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In a message dated 1/28/2006 8:08:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

after we've met Mustapha.

 

Whenever I hear the name Mustapha I think of Austin Powers.

What is with the Mike Meyers theme today?

 

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In a message dated 1/28/2006 7:33:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

I'd love to see him draw the main story for the next mini series, but I figure Ty needs someone with more of a 'name' to sell the book.

 

I don't think so.

In fact I think quite the reverse.

If Neil was doing the artwork he'd

no only make a name for himself,

but expand Ty's reputation for quality

as well.  It's kind of selfish to keep

Neil's work all to ourselves, when a

new generation of POTA fans could

be enjoying it.  The original POTA

comic's artwork is shite compared

to his stuff.  His is photo-realistic.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/28/2006 8:15:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

I was thinking of him in my head as 'Steve Majors' when I was drawing him

 

Steve Majors?

Lee Majors...

Steve Austin

The Six Million Dollar Man

Austin Powers...

Now we're full circle...back to

Wayne's World!

 

 

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In a message dated 1/28/2006 10:27:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

Interesting that Wanda is now on the council. I would have preferred to have seen Carsia instead. Would be interesting to imagine how she changed her plans from trying to overthrow the council to working within the system instead.

 

Yeah, even though they both failed, Carsia's project did

get off the ground, so to speak.  Good thing it flew away.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/29/2006 12:35:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

And maybe Galen's dad has Zaius' niece tied up in a dungeon and is using her to blackmail him!

 

I have no visual reference for her.

The female orang working the

bookshelves in Conquest is

the only one I can picture,

since she's the only one

we've ever seen.  I wonder

if Neil would draw her like

that, or differently???

 

 

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In a message dated 1/29/2006 4:09:17 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

or Mr Echo in Lost

 

Or Mis Directo, as I call him.

Since his character seems like

a Red Herring to me.  He's like

The Chief in Cuckoo's Nest.

He'll probably pop up at the end

to save someone.  Though if he,

and Locke, and Sayid would

whip those beach bums into

shape they could be running

that island!  With a bit of

training from those guys Ana

Lucia could probably kill half of

The Others just by accident!

Strange that on the IMDB

they spell it Mistereko.

But when ever I hear

Mustapha, I picture

Will Ferrell in a Fez.

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 1/29/2006 4:59:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Mustapha, I picture

Will Ferrell in a Fez.

Austin Power . . .

 

Mike Meyers again.

 

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In a message dated 1/28/2006 10:27:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

I find Zaius thinking here very interesting. perhaps one of those ancient human books in his office is by Mario Puzo. Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.

 

"But I never knew until this day that it was Carisa who betrayed me."

     ~~~Zaius in the voice of Brando's Godfather~~~~

 

 

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 4:51 PM

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In a message dated 1/25/06 3:31:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

As far as how decayed SF is or isn't, since I consider the TV series to be a separate continuity from the films, it's only been about 500 years since man's downfall, based on that New York picture dated 2503 in the first episode.

Greg

Oh yeah, that's a good point.  I always forget about that picture in the first episode.  There's also those dudes who left that projection in one episode.  Kind of like something out of Star Trek.

Yeah, the TV show is a separate "thing" for the films series....  BUT....


IT STILL FALLS UNDER THE LAWS OF BOULLE!!!!

So sayth the Lawgiver!

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The style is something like that used in PULP FICTION where a lot of things are out of place and sequence it seems until they all tie together.   It may NOT work as a comic but we will be trying to make it work.

 

Michael

Simply to interrogate them and they will not be happy until they hear “WE ARE SPIES SENT TO DISCOVER THE SECRETS OF YOUR CITY AND ITS’ FORTRESS”.

If we do a second series of Apes comics for Mr. Comics, I'll happily consider Neil's work.  I agree with you, he's quite good.

But, we had all of our writer/artist teams booked up before issue #1 hit the stands.  You have to assign about five months ahead of newsstand or you'll never make your schedules, so we had all our artists in place, literally before anyone even heard we were publishing. 

The other factor involved in my choosing the artists (and writers and staff), is that they are ALL Canadian.  Every last person working on Apes, from the cover artist, writers, pencillers, colourists, letterers, and the printers, are all Canadian.  That is a big part of the point of Mr. Comics, to create a publisher that can work with the vast talent pool here, in Canada, of comic artists.  When you consider how much talent we bacon-eatin' hockey players have contributed to the industry since its creation, it's a wonder there aren't MORE publishers in Canada.  A quick list of us top flight Canucks in the biz:  John Byrne, Todd McFarlane, Cam Stewart, Dale Keown, Darwyn Cooke, David Finch, Leonard Kirk, Tom Grummet, Tom Fowler, Gene Ha, Travis Charet, Yanick Paquette, Ian Boothby, Dave Ross, etc, etc, etc....I'm just scratching the surface, and already that's many of Marvel, Wildstorm and DC's major players, and I've barely left the Toronto area.

We do have another, fairly well known Ape artist, here in Toronto named Kent Burles, and HE'S doing a story for us in issue #5. 

Now, having said all that, I WILL try to find a spot for a pin-up or something for Neil.  I also like his work, and I've been sent a pair of pin-ups by Neil, which I'm hoping to use, somewhere.  There was literally no room in issue #1 and #2, but I'll be assembling #3 in a couple of weeks, and we'll see then.  If not, then #4 might be the place to go.  I promise, I am interested in showcasing the work of Neil (and a couple of other talented non-Canadians) before the run is finished, but there's unfortunately no space in the first six issues for a full story.

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--- Neil T Foster <nfoster@...> wrote:

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > As you all know, Neil can imitate the style of
> various artists.
> > For the new group comic, should we ask him to do a
> certain style other
> than his own?
> > I was thinking the "Batman - The Animated Series"
> style..
> > Neil, you got a variety of apes drawn in this
> style you could share
> with us?
> > If so could you please send as individual emails -
> I can't seem to
> > currently log on to the group to see files!
>
>
> Neil
>
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.html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 6:27:06 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Maybe when we have shown the 22 pages from GOING HOME (part1) we should re-post Beware the Beast daily and include the 7 additional pages that are not available on-line?

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.html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 6:27:48 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

>For the new group comic, should we ask him to do a certain style other than his own?
>I was thinking the "Batman - The Animated Series" style..
>Neil, you got a variety of apes drawn in this style you could share with us?

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.html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 6:36:01 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

So….what does everyone think?  Personally, I always prefer the realistic/detailed style Neil uses, but I know people like to see different styles...


I'll agree that I prefer the more realistic drawings, but as I just posted, for a more "animated" type of drawing these aren't at all bad... Especially the drawings where the heads are in proportion to the bodies... I've never been a fan of the HUGE body, small head concept...
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.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 4:09:37 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Where did I get the name from?  Well, it was a Clint Eastwood movie.  I think the character is Big Ed Mustapha…..anyone know the movie

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Does any one know if the GOing Home comic will be assembled in a PDF
format like Within the Planet of the Apes is on the Archive group?
John

.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 2:50:57 PM Central Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

Does any one know if the GOing Home comic will be assembled in a PDF
format like Within the Planet of the Apes is on the Archive group?

You may have to ask our resident APES helper Greg P. about that... He does an awful lot that doesn't seem to get the recognition it deserves, even going as far as sacrificing a coverless copy of TV series book # 4 "Lord of the Apes" for inclusion on the TV series sight...

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.html.html In a message dated 1/28/06 5:42:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT available separately!

Oh, great!  Now I have to think about whether I'm going to buy that head or not!

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.html.html In a message dated 1/28/06 5:08:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Bad news readers……I have heard back from George Tuska re a supposed illustration by him that was published by our friends at Simian Scrolls.

Neil, before I go on…..do you have a scan of the offending illustration and accompanying title?



This is a black day for POTA fandom……



Michael




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.html.html In a message dated 1/28/06 4:30:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, abmac@... writes:

I like it except for the obvious black rectangle around the text. Can't you put the text directly atop the picture?

Oh, that's showing up on some monitors?  I keep my brightness down so much I don't see it.  I'll have to darken down the rest of it.

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.html.html In a message dated 1/28/06 4:21:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Firstly – love that Central City Neil.  Just the way it is sposed ta look!

For those of you who ARE getting confused, we are trying to fuse the "back at the ranch" story with Galen's torture.



Did this confuse anyone or am I unnecessarily concerned?



Michael



I've always been confused that the Ape City from PLANET ends up on the West Coast in the TV series.

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.html.html In a message dated 1/28/06 4:50:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

As you all know, Neil can imitate the style of various artists.

For the new group comic, should we ask him to do a certain style other than his own?



I don't remember who it was, but I always liked the artist's style who did the BENEATH adaptation in the original Marvel mag.

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If someone subscribes to the two timelines theory, the TV show can be part of the original timeline, since the apes took over much later. - - - Jeff

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Rory – you need to re-order the head, dude! 

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.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 3:02:35 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I've always been confused that the Ape City from PLANET ends up on the West Coast in the TV series.

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.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 3:02:46 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

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It's fairly simple – Neil and I both contacted him after asking "our friends at Scrolls" whether the ape head was drawn by Tuska and getting rather wishy-washy responses from them.

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OK – but could you handle that "more cartoony" look?

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Does any one know if the GOing Home comic will be assembled in a PDF
format like Within the Planet of the Apes is on the Archive group?
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Going Home pdf

I'd be happy to do so, as long as it's okay with Neil and Mike.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> This may explain why you don't get many comments. It's impossible to

comment on the story when things are out of place and sequence.

-- I don't think Mike quite explained it properly. Some things are
being seen as they happen AT THE SAME TIME but in different places.
They are not out of sequence though.

> Eventually people will get frustrated and decide that you don't have

a plan and you're just making it up as you go along,

-- Well anyone thinking that or who has suggested that to you would be
TOTALLY WRONG. This thing is planned out, in fact it is planned out to
cover at least 3 comic stories.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Hey Greg, would you mind casting a similarly critical eye

over "BEWARE THE BEAST"? We really are getting laughed at by a few
publishers about the quality of that story and the writing style..

-- Now that would be a good idea. I drew the damn thing and I still
can't understand Gideon's motivation for continuing to chase that
human into a place he knew was strictly off limits! Just because 'one
had never got away'? I don't buy that!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:

> How did you get a hold of him? And, have you asked him if he'd do a
> "question/answer" session on here like the one you had set up with

Ty?

-- I've got a postal address for him that I can send you privately if
you want, I don't want to go splashing it on the group forum though.

I really don't think there would be much chance of him doing a
question /answer session though unfortunately.

Neil

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 9:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Hey Greg, would you mind casting a similarly critical eye
over "BEWARE THE BEAST"?  We really are getting laughed at by a few
publishers about the quality of that story and the writing style..

-- Now that would be a good idea. I drew the damn thing and I still
can't understand Gideon's motivation for continuing to chase that
human into a place he knew was strictly off limits! Just because 'one
had never got away'? I don't buy that!

Neil

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Hey – I notice the Home Page picture is the Beware the Beast poster.

Now, I've never seen this before, but I don't like it.  You'll notice the gorilla has a belt around his waist.  THAT'S TV SHOW STUFF!!!
Terrible!  Terrible!  Terrible!

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Neil does get depressed by the lack of input, so if anyone else wants to remind him that he IS appreciated…..now might be a good time.  I know for sure Neil HAS got better things to do with his time…..

Yes, Neil, you are appreciated, even if you are a timelooper and far to faithful to the look of the TV show gorillas!  DAMN THAT TV SHOW!

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.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 4:55:47 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Now that would be a good idea. I drew the damn thing and I still
can't understand Gideon's motivation for continuing to chase that
human into a place he knew was strictly off limits! Just because 'one
had never got away'? I don't buy that!

Well, to me it makes sense, even some apes must have HUGE egos, huge enough that they're not gonna let a pestilence slip thru their grip...

Anyway, just like Taylor's ship being a way to get the apes from their time back to our's, Gideon's chase of the human was just a way to get to the main part of the story... It got him from "here to there" and the "there" is where the action takes place...

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
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> Of course it is OK with me and I'm sure it is with Neil

-- Actually, no I'd rather we didn't. I think I would rather wait
until it is all inked maybe.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:08 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home pdf

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Of course it is OK with me and I'm sure it is with Neil

-- Actually, no I'd rather we didn't. I think I would rather wait
until it is all inked maybe.

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 5:05:04 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Now, I've never seen this before, but I don't like it.  You'll notice the gorilla has a belt around his waist.  THAT'S TV SHOW STUFF!!!
Terrible!  Terrible!  Terrible!

What they did to the gorillas on the TV show was a crime!

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12

In a message dated 1/29/2006 4:55:47 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Now that would be a good idea. I drew the damn thing and I still
can't understand Gideon's motivation for continuing to chase that
human into a place he knew was strictly off limits! Just because 'one
had never got away'? I don't buy that!

Well, to me it makes sense, even some apes must have HUGE egos, huge enough that they're not gonna let a pestilence slip thru their grip...

Anyway, just like Taylor's ship being a way to get the apes from their time back to our's, Gideon's chase of the human was just a way to get to the main part of the story... It got him from "here to there" and the "there" is where the action takes place...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New home-page beast!

In a message dated 1/29/2006 5:05:04 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Now, I've never seen this before, but I don't like it.  You'll notice the gorilla has a belt around his waist.  THAT'S TV SHOW STUFF!!!
Terrible!  Terrible!  Terrible!

What they did to the gorillas on the TV show was a crime!

C'mon now... Waist belts are not a crime... The TV gorilla carrying "human looking" pistols (rather than the BENEATH pistols) was a crime, but the way in which they carried them isn't bad...

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-- Well anyone thinking that or who has suggested that to you would be
TOTALLY WRONG. This thing is planned out, in fact it is planned out to
cover at least 3 comic stories.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> Now, I've never seen this before, but I don't like it. You'll

notice the gorilla has a belt around his waist. THAT'S TV SHOW
STUFF!!!

> Terrible! Terrible! Terrible!

-- Rory he is dressed slightly differently from the everyday soldier
gorillas because he isn't one, he works for a seperate department. It
was decided by the writer to have him dressed slightly differently. I
thought you had read Beware the Beast?

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 5:12:40 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

 

Obviously you aren't going out of your way to be negatively critical then?

As far as what? Beware the Beast? Hell no, I like that one, even though some of the people you showed it to said it had faults... They're probably of the opinion that you need "explosions" every other page to be of any substance... Or, they don't know APES anyway and really DON'T GET what's going on to begin with...
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home page 13

I don't mean to suggest that it isn't planned, only that the audience might get a tad frustrated if it starts to seem like the answer to any question is "you'll find out later".

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:17 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12

In a message dated 1/29/2006 5:12:40 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

 

Obviously you aren't going out of your way to be negatively critical then?

As far as what? Beware the Beast? Hell no, I like that one, even though some of the people you showed it to said it had faults... They're probably of the opinion that you need "explosions" every other page to be of any substance... Or, they don't know APES anyway and really DON'T GET what's going on to begin with...

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:

> Well, to me it makes sense, even some apes must have HUGE egos, huge

enough that they're not gonna let a pestilence slip thru their grip...

-- Well maybe it needs a back story to explain something like that
then.

> Anyway, just like Taylor's ship being a way to get the apes from

their time back to our's, Gideon's chase of the human was just a way
to get to the main part of the story...

-- Which is what some of the parts of Going Home are as well but it
seems with that we need to provide reasons why it is all happening.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home page 13

 

Here are the questions I have: What happened to Alan?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
>Well, to me it makes sense, even some apes must have HUGE egos, huge
enough that they're not gonna let a pestilence slip thru their grip...

-- Well maybe it needs a back story to explain something like that
then.

I actually thought that the Gideon character was explained well enough that he really wouldn't need a backstory... He's an extiminator, he excels at his job, and he won't let his record become blemished by an upright beast... There, the backstory is told... ;)

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home page 13

 

Here are the questions I have: What happened to Alan? Who is Mustapha and when do we get to meet him? When is Ponytail going to ask a question and listen to the whole fricken answer? If Zaius and the Council decide to offer Galen a pardon for the murder of Urko's Lieutenant all the way back in the first episode, how are they going to find him so they can tell him about it? Will Alan and Pete also be offered pardons? If not, does Zaius really think Galen will accept?

 

Greg

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

> Well maybe it needs a back story to explain something like that
> then.

-- And I have other problems with it as well. Why did that tribe of
humans keep chasing him endlessly across the desert? Surely they would
have just given up once he was well away from their caves? Maybe their
reasons need explaining in greater detail? Oh that's right, it was
just a plot device to keep the story moving on to another place even
though if you stop and analyse it it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:

> C'mon now... Waist belts are not a crime...

-- That's right. Ursus had one.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:29 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> Well maybe it needs a back story to explain something like that
> then.

-- And I have other problems with it as well. Why did that tribe of
humans keep chasing him endlessly across the desert? Surely they would
have just given up once he was well away from their caves? Maybe their
reasons need explaining in greater detail? Oh that's right, it was
just a plot device to keep the story moving on to another place even
though if you stop and analyse it it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Neil

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.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 5:30:59 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

Why did that tribe of humans keep chasing him endlessly across the desert? Surely they would have just given up once he was well away from their caves? Maybe their reasons need explaining in greater detail?

You surely can't expect a reason from an animal? Their "pack mentality" kicked in is my guess...

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-- That's right. Ursus had one.

Actually, no he didn't... His holster was attached to his uniform...

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:

> I actually thought that the Gideon character was explained well

enough that he really wouldn't need a backstory... He's an
extiminator, he excels at his job, and he won't let his record become
blemished by an upright beast...

-- And how did he become like that though? I need to know these things
or does he just like killing humans for the sake of killing humans.
And where did this branch of 'exterminators' suddenly spring from? We
need that explained.

Like Mike suggested one can be over critical of anything if one wants
to be.

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 5:39:33 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

One can be over critical of anything if one wants to be.

And instead of being overly critical, some go to the point of creating their own far out scenarios to "unflub" everything!

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.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 5:43:54 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Most of which will be answered taday if Neil agrees to a "double whammy"!  :)

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:

> You surely can't expect a reason from an animal? Their "pack

mentality" kicked in is my guess...

-- Even an animal has the brains to know when to give up. Their
original motivation was obviously to get Gideon away from their caves
but really, why then keep chasing him halfway across the FZ?!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12

Like Mike suggested one can be over critical of anything if one wants
to be.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:

> Actually, no he didn't... His holster was attached to his uniform...

-- Really? I had always thought it was on a belt but was mostly under
that armour vest thingy of his. Damn I'll have to go and watch the
movie again.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> You surely can't expect a reason from an animal? Their "pack
mentality" kicked in is my guess...

-- Even an animal has the brains to know when to give up. Their
original motivation was obviously to get Gideon away from their caves
but really, why then keep chasing him halfway across the FZ?!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home page 13

In a message dated 1/29/2006 5:43:54 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Most of which will be answered taday if Neil agrees to a "double whammy"!  :)

I'm for that! 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:51 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New home-page beast!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> Actually, no he didn't... His holster was attached to his uniform...

-- Really? I had always thought it was on a belt but was mostly under
that armour vest thingy of his. Damn I'll have to go and watch the
movie again.

Neil

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In a message dated 1/29/2006 9:34:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

This may explain why you don't get many comments. It's impossible to comment on the story when things are out of place and sequence.

 

I know how he feels.  I revealed why I thought Zira

became a Vet and Animal Psychologist since Neil

seemed unlikely to draw the Young Dr. Zira comic

and it seems no one has an opinion on it one way

or another.  I would have thought someone would

have agreed or disagreed with it . . .  But nothing

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 11:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Going Home page 13

In a message dated 1/29/2006 9:34:18 A.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

This may explain why you don't get many comments. It's impossible to comment on the story when things are out of place and sequence.

 

I know how he feels.  I revealed why I thought Zira

became a Vet and Animal Psychologist since Neil

seemed unlikely to draw the Young Dr. Zira comic

and it seems no one has an opinion on it one way

or another.  I would have thought someone would

have agreed or disagreed with it . . .  But nothing

 

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In a message dated 1/29/2006 11:59:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, tybunny@... writes:

Now, having said all that, I WILL try to find a spot for a pin-up or something for Neil. 

 

 

 

Cool.  Here's my suggestion for the pin-up . . .

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 1/29/2006 4:48:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Well anyone thinking that or who has suggested that to you would be
TOTALLY WRONG.

 

I think it's just a matter of perspective.

If you only read a comic book one page

a week you might have to go back and

re-read pages to fill in what you forgot.

The PDF files are a great way to do that.

Just download them, print them out and

read it like a regular comic book.

 

 

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.html.html In a message dated 1/29/2006 3:17:16 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I don't remember who it was, but I always liked the artist's style who did the BENEATH adaptation in the original Marvel mag.

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-- Which is what some of the parts of Going Home are as well but it
seems with that we need to provide reasons why it is all happening.

Neil

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In a message dated 1/29/2006 4:55:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Now that would be a good idea. I drew the damn thing and I still
can't understand Gideon's motivation for continuing to chase that
human into a place he knew was strictly off limits! Just because 'one
had never got away'? I don't buy that!

 

I don't know that I buy it either, but it's been done. 

Gary Oldman in The Professional, Zenigata in

Lupin The Third,  The Shield . . . there are lots

of "authority overstepping it's bounds" stories.

 

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In a message dated 1/29/2006 5:11:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

The TV gorilla carrying "human looking" pistols (

 

Yeah, a Walther P-38.

I guess they were saying

the gorillas were nazis.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ty Templeton

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:59 AM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Question for Ty

If we do a second series of Apes comics for Mr. Comics, I'll happily consider Neil's work.  I agree with you, he's quite good.

But, we had all of our writer/artist teams booked up before issue #1 hit the stands.  You have to assign about five months ahead of newsstand or you'll never make your schedules, so we had all our artists in place, literally before anyone even heard we were publishing. 

The other factor involved in my choosing the artists (and writers and staff), is that they are ALL Canadian.  Every last person working on Apes, from the cover artist, writers, pencillers, colourists, letterers, and the printers, are all Canadian.  That is a big part of the point of Mr. Comics, to create a publisher that can work with the vast talent pool here, in Canada, of comic artists.  When you consider how much talent we bacon-eatin' hockey players have contributed to the industry since its creation, it's a wonder there aren't MORE publishers in Canada.  A quick list of us top flight Canucks in the biz:  John Byrne, Todd McFarlane, Cam Stewart, Dale Keown, Darwyn Cooke, David Finch, Leonard Kirk, Tom Grummet, Tom Fowler, Gene Ha, Travis Charet, Yanick Paquette, Ian Boothby, Dave Ross, etc, etc, etc....I'm just scratching the surface, and already that's many of Marvel, Wildstorm and DC's major players, and I've barely left the Toronto area.

We do have another, fairly well known Ape artist, here in Toronto named Kent Burles, and HE'S doing a story for us in issue #5. 

Now, having said all that, I WILL try to find a spot for a pin-up or something for Neil.  I also like his work, and I've been sent a pair of pin-ups by Neil, which I'm hoping to use, somewhere.  There was literally no room in issue #1 and #2, but I'll be assembling #3 in a couple of weeks, and we'll see then.  If not, then #4 might be the place to go.  I promise, I am interested in showcasing the work of Neil (and a couple of other talented non-Canadians) before the run is finished, but there's unfortunately no space in the first six issues for a full story.

Ty the Guy.

On 1/29/06, LordTZer0@... < LordTZer0@... > wrote:

In a message dated 1/28/2006 7:33:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

I'd love to see him draw the main story for the next mini series, but I figure Ty needs someone with more of a 'name' to sell the book.

 

I don't think so.

In fact I think quite the reverse.

If Neil was doing the artwork he'd

no only make a name for himself,

but expand Ty's reputation for quality

as well.  It's kind of selfish to keep

Neil's work all to ourselves, when a

new generation of POTA fans could

be enjoying it.  The original POTA

comic's artwork is shite compared

to his stuff.  His is photo-realistic.

 

 

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