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Group: potadg Message: 35774 From: hill19652000 Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: 4 pints, or 4 points? :).
Group: potadg Message: 35775 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Going Home
Group: potadg Message: 35776 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home
Group: potadg Message: 35777 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home
Group: potadg Message: 35778 From: Neil Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 09 SPOILER
Group: potadg Message: 35779 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Set Cover
Group: potadg Message: 35780 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35781 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: One group?
Group: potadg Message: 35782 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35783 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: The state of the franchise of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 35784 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home
Group: potadg Message: 35785 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Set Cover
Group: potadg Message: 35786 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 35787 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35788 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home
Group: potadg Message: 35789 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home
Group: potadg Message: 35790 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home
Group: potadg Message: 35791 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35792 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home
Group: potadg Message: 35793 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Legacy Set Cover
Group: potadg Message: 35794 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: One group?
Group: potadg Message: 35795 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35796 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35797 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: The state of the franchise of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 35798 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Set Cover
Group: potadg Message: 35799 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35800 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: The state of the franchise of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 35801 From: John Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 35802 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35803 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35804 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35805 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Set Cover
Group: potadg Message: 35806 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35807 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35808 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35809 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Radio Spots CD cover Take II
Group: potadg Message: 35810 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35811 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35812 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 35813 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Remakes
Group: potadg Message: 35814 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Set Cover
Group: potadg Message: 35815 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Radio Spots CD cover Take II
Group: potadg Message: 35816 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
Group: potadg Message: 35817 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35818 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Radio Spots CD cover Take II
Group: potadg Message: 35819 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Radio Spots CD cover Take II
Group: potadg Message: 35820 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: New home-page beast!
Group: potadg Message: 35821 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Back to the group comic.......
Group: potadg Message: 35822 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Tuska FRAUD!
Group: potadg Message: 35823 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
Group: potadg Message: 35824 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: A Question for Ty
Group: potadg Message: 35825 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
Group: potadg Message: 35826 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT available se
Group: potadg Message: 35827 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Tuska FRAUD!
Group: potadg Message: 35828 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
Group: potadg Message: 35829 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT available se
Group: potadg Message: 35830 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
Group: potadg Message: 35831 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT availabl
Group: potadg Message: 35832 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT availabl
Group: potadg Message: 35833 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
Group: potadg Message: 35834 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
Group: potadg Message: 35835 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: More cartoon DVD news
Group: potadg Message: 35836 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 35837 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Back to the group comic.......
Group: potadg Message: 35838 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Back to the group comic.......
Group: potadg Message: 35839 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Back to the group comic.......
Group: potadg Message: 35840 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
Group: potadg Message: 35841 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: A Question for Ty
Group: potadg Message: 35842 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
Group: potadg Message: 35843 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
Group: potadg Message: 35844 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Back to the group comic.......
Group: potadg Message: 35845 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: New home-page beast!
Group: potadg Message: 35846 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
Group: potadg Message: 35847 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
Group: potadg Message: 35848 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
Group: potadg Message: 35849 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT availabl
Group: potadg Message: 35850 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35851 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: cricket FRAUD! ;-)
Group: potadg Message: 35852 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Radio Spots CD cover Take II
Group: potadg Message: 35853 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35854 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35855 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
Group: potadg Message: 35856 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35857 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Back to the group comic.......
Group: potadg Message: 35858 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Back to the group comic.......
Group: potadg Message: 35859 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35860 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35861 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35862 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35863 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35864 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35865 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 35866 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Back to the group comic.......
Group: potadg Message: 35867 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35868 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35869 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35870 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
Subject: Going Home page 13
Group: potadg Message: 35871 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35872 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
Group: potadg Message: 35873 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12



Group: potadg Message: 35774 From: hill19652000 Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: 4 pints, or 4 points? :).
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Ty Templeton <tybunny@g...> wrote:
>
> It's called Pussycats, but you get the points for remembering the
source,
> even without the name. Excellent!
>

Lennon also used the name on "Rock and Roll", his covers album just
before he retired to became a house husband. It's on the lead in to
the last track, can't remember what the last track is at the moment
and the cat is preventing me from looking :)
Best Graham.
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Group: potadg Message: 35775 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Going Home
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Don’t want to spoil it for you…..

 

But I will ask – who do you think would be more likely to make guest appearances on a revamped TV Show……Naugton or Ron Harper?

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tshaf37@...
Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2006 1:32 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Going Home (original pencils & text) 09 SPOILER

 

In a message dated 1/27/2006 2:09:44 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Sorta feel obliged to take them ALL away in a sense.

 

However one of them will not be coming back…..

 

This is something many fanfic writers have done to conclude the TV Show – kill off a character….

 

Michael

 

Well, I do hope if you kill any of them off it will be Alan. I can relate to Pete so much better then Alan?

 


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Group: potadg Message: 35776 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home
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In a message dated 1/27/2006 3:44:02 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Don't want to spoil it for you…..

 

But I will ask – who do you think would be more likely to make guest appearances on a revamped TV Show……Naugton or Ron Harper?

Michael

Probably Ron Harper. James Naughton seemed like he didn't have anything nice to say about the show. I just thought as far as the characters went I related with him the best.
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Group: potadg Message: 35777 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home
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Well you will be happy to know that the character of all survivors changes drastically!

By the way – what do you like about Pete/like less about Alan?

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tshaf37@...
Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2006 9:05 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Going Home

 

In a message dated 1/27/2006 3:44:02 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Don’t want to spoil it for you…..

 

But I will ask – who do you think would be more likely to make guest appearances on a revamped TV Show……Naugton or Ron Harper?

Michael

Probably Ron Harper. James Naughton seemed like he didn't have anything nice to say about the show. I just thought as far as the characters went I related with him the best.


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Group: potadg Message: 35778 From: Neil Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 09 SPOILER
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Sorta feel obliged to take them ALL away in a sense.

-- Good idea, let's do it. Kill them all and blow up the planet!

So long and thanks for all the fish,
Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 35779 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/27/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Set Cover
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    I think it's simply because everyone (meaning the
    general public) always thinks of Roddy when they hear
    about POTA.....so they use pics of Cornelius or Caesar
    for recognition....and I think that THEY think that no
    one (in the general public) could tell one chimp from
    another....

    they are probably all based on this photo......

    Tim

    --- "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
    wrote:

    > That's an interesting observation Rory.
    >
    > Michael
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
    > Haristas@...
    > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:59 PM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Legacy Set Cover
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 1/24/06 8:42:04 PM Eastern
    > Standard Time,
    > Michael.Whitty@... writes:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > What's the deal with Conquest Caesar being all over
    > everything?
    >
    > My guess is that FOX is up to something with
    > CONQUEST.....
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > No, my guess is that Roddy McDowall made a deal with
    > them before he died.
    >
    > You'll notice on the box covers now for PLANET that
    > both Charlton Heston and
    > Roddy McDowall's names are above the title. It used
    > to be only Heston. I
    > think maybe giving McDowall above the title credit
    > for all future
    > presentations of PLANET was a way to get his
    > cooperation for the 30th
    > Anniversary stuff, hosting the Behind documentary
    > and allowing the use of
    > his home movies, and I'm sure McDowall wanted to
    > make sure he'd always be
    > remembered for APES. So now his ape puss is all
    > over everything and they're
    > selling his head. Good for him.
    >
    > -- Rory
    >
    >
    >
    >

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    Group: potadg Message: 35780 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/27/2006
    Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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    In a message dated 1/27/2006 8:49:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, mystic4ever@... writes:
    I really enjoyed the 2001 film and am surprised how many other fans
    didn't.  It's only disappointing when you compare it to the original,
    which nothing could compare to.
     
    That's kind of the point.
    why remake a movie
    if you can't improve on the original?
     
     
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35781 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/27/2006
    Subject: Re: One group?
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    I thought we weren't going to bring this up again.....

    --- Haristas@... wrote:

    > In a message dated 1/25/06 12:45:35 AM Eastern
    > Standard Time,
    > Michael.Whitty@... writes:
    >
    >
    > > Ironic how I stood up for them all to the point
    > where it nearly cost me the
    > > group and they repay me by stabbing me in the back
    > and supporting the guy
    > > who placed them on moderation! I guess POTA
    > really IS all about irony!
    > >
    > > Michael
    > >
    >
    > I think a better question to ask, Michael, is "What
    > are Yahoo groups all
    > about?"
    >
    > -- Rory
    >


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    Group: potadg Message: 35782 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/27/2006
    Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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    In a message dated 1/27/2006 10:38:53 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
    What was the first one?
     
    That War Of The Worlds stinker.
     
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35783 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/27/2006
    Subject: Re: The state of the franchise of the Planet of the Apes
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    Hey Ty.....when is issue #2 coming out? I look forward
    to it.....!

    Tim

    --- Ty Templeton <tybunny@...> wrote:

    > >
    > > It's not like he'll know anything.
    > > Capital and EMI his sales figures from
    > > The Beatles for years. From what I
    > > hear the comic industry is worse than
    > > the music industry.
    > >
    >
    > Whilst I LOVE any comparison between me and mssrs.
    > Macca, Winston O'Boogie,
    > Little Richie and Hari Georgesong, I'm not sure
    > where you've gotten this
    > impression about the comic industry.
    >
    > Diamond Distributing, the main distrubution system
    > for Comic Shops in North
    > America, regularly releases their sales figures (a
    > couple of months after
    > stuff hits the newsstand). The Top 300 sales
    > figures are widely reported on
    > the internet the week of release, and as
    > co-publisher for Mr. Comics,
    > (rather than a hired writer/artist etc.) I'm not
    > sure who would be keeping
    > the sales figures from me.
    >
    > Now, after saying all that.
    >
    > Our sales are better than a number of people thought
    > they'd be, but lower
    > than I'd hoped. Of course, I was hoping for
    > something in the quarter million
    > range, each issue hand delivered by half naked
    > starlets on mopeds. In the
    > real world, no one's swimming in Scrooge McDuck
    > money around Casa de Senor
    > Comica quite yet, but we're doing okay.
    >
    > Ty the Guy. Extra points for anyone who can source
    > all four of the Beatle
    > nicknames mentioned above.
    >


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    Group: potadg Message: 35784 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/27/2006
    Subject: Re: Going Home
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    .html.html In a message dated 1/27/06 4:44:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:


    Don't want to spoil it for you…..




    But I will ask – who do you think would be more likely to make guest appearances on a revamped TV Show……Naugton or Ron Harper?

    Michael



    Harper would do anything for a buck!

    -- Rory
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    Group: potadg Message: 35785 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/27/2006
    Subject: Re: Legacy Set Cover
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      .html.htmlIn a message dated 1/27/06 7:50:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:


      I think it's simply because everyone (meaning the
      general public) always thinks of Roddy when they hear
      about POTA.....so they use pics of Cornelius or Caesar
      for recognition....and I think that THEY think that no
      one (in the general public) could tell one chimp from
      another....

      they are probably all based on this photo......

      Tim




      Yes, that is the image used on the video covers, and it's the model for the "Ultimate Edition" bust.

      I don't like it because I don't think McDowall's Caesar makeup is as good as Cornelius' in the original.  Look at booth and tell me what you think.

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      Group: potadg Message: 35786 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/27/2006
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      Hello,

      This email message is a notification to let you know that
      a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
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      File : /Going Home/GH Pencils & Text/wmTV page 12 (pencilsl).jpg
      Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>
      Description :

      You can access this file at the URL:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Going%20Home/GH%20Pencils%20%26%20Text/wmTV%20page%2012%20%28pencilsl%29.jpg

      To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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      Regards,

      munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>
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      Group: potadg Message: 35787 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/27/2006
      Subject: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
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        Group: potadg Message: 35788 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/27/2006
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        In a message dated 1/27/2006 4:25:35 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

        Well you will be happy to know that the character of all survivors changes drastically!

        By the way – what do you like about Pete/like less about Alan?

         

        Michael

         

        I like Pete better then Alan I guess because he excepted his situation and went on with it whereas Alan cried like a little girl. I do realize being stranded in the future of talking apes and the world being destroyed would be a big shock to the system to say the least so I do feel for Alan I guess. It just seemed he ran things and wouldn't except it and they went on Gods good humor from place to place. Lets face it if I was Pete I would have left Alan, knowing you wont find a city, let alone a computer and any kind of technology. I like Pete because he seems carefree in a lot of ways like me and he thinks he's Gods gift to woman. When I was younger I was a lot like him.
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        Group: potadg Message: 35789 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/27/2006
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        In a message dated 1/27/2006 3:44:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
        who do you think would be more likely to make guest appearances on a revamped TV Show……
        Ron Harper
         
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 35790 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/27/2006
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           I still like my idea of a sitcom where Virdon and Zauis share an apartment. Ron and Booth would be game. Naughton wouldn't do anything POTA unless he could sing. - - - Jeff
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:37 PM
        Subject: [PotaDG] Going Home

        Don’t want to spoil it for you…..

         

        But I will ask – who do you think would be more likely to make guest appearances on a revamped TV Show……Naugton or Ron Harper?

        Michael

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tshaf37@...
        Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2006 1:32 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Going Home (original pencils & text) 09 SPOILER

         

        In a message dated 1/27/2006 2:09:44 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

        Sorta feel obliged to take them ALL away in a sense.

         

        However one of them will not be coming back…..

         

        This is something many fanfic writers have done to conclude the TV Show – kill off a character….

         

        Michael

         

        Well, I do hope if you kill any of them off it will be Alan. I can relate to Pete so much better then Alan?

         



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        Group: potadg Message: 35791 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/27/2006
        Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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          Speaking of which, Fox's remake of "The Omen" comes out June 6th. That was fast. The trailer is already online. - - - Jeff
         
        ----- Original Message -----
        Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 4:50 PM
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.

        In a message dated 1/27/2006 8:49:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, mystic4ever@... writes:
        I really enjoyed the 2001 film and am surprised how many other fans
        didn't.  It's only disappointing when you compare it to the original,
        which nothing could compare to.
         
        That's kind of the point.
        why remake a movie
        if you can't improve on the original?
         
         
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 35792 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/28/2006
        Subject: Re: Going Home
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        In a message dated 1/27/2006 11:36:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
         Naughton wouldn't do anything POTA unless he could sing. - - -
         
        He gets that from his brother.
        You know . . .He's a Pepper.
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 35793 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
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        That sure looks like the pose they base them on.

         

        And yes Rory, the early sculpts are better.  These look more like plastic and the hair is a lesser quality.

         

        Michael

         

        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
        Sent: Saturday, 28 January 2006 11:50 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Legacy Set Cover

         

        I think it's simply because everyone (meaning the
        general public) always thinks of Roddy when they hear
        about POTA.....so they use pics of Cornelius or Caesar
        for recognition....and I think that THEY think that no
        one (in the general public) could tell one chimp from
        another....

        they are probably all based on this photo......

        Tim

        --- "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
        wrote:

        > That's an interesting observation Rory.

        > Michael
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
        > Haristas@...
        > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:59 PM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Legacy Set Cover
        >
        >
        > In a message dated 1/24/06 8:42:04 PM Eastern
        > Standard Time,
        > Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > What's the deal with Conquest Caesar being all over
        > everything?
        >
        > My guess is that FOX is up to something with
        > CONQUEST.....
        >
        > Michael
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > No, my guess is that Roddy McDowall made a deal with
        > them before he died.
        >
        > You'll notice on the box covers now for PLANET that
        > both Charlton Heston and
        > Roddy McDowall's names are above the title.  It used
        > to be only Heston.  I
        > think maybe giving McDowall above the title credit
        > for all future
        > presentations of PLANET was a way to get his
        > cooperation for the 30th
        > Anniversary stuff, hosting the Behind documentary
        > and allowing the use of
        > his home movies, and I'm sure McDowall wanted to
        > make sure he'd always be
        > remembered for APES.  So now his ape puss is all
        > over everything and they're
        > selling his head.  Good for him.
        >
        >
        -- Rory


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        Group: potadg Message: 35794 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
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        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...> wrote:
        > I thought we weren't going to bring this up again.....

        -- So just ignore it instead of replying to the post and drawing more
        attention to it. Why not comment on one of the many other posts on
        more interesting topics?

        Neil
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        Group: potadg Message: 35795 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
        Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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        In a message dated 1/27/2006 11:46:16 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
        Speaking of which, Fox's remake of "The Omen" comes out June 6th. That was fast. The trailer is already online. - - - Jeff
        Is Hollywood out of idea or something? Whats with all the remakes?
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        Group: potadg Message: 35796 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
        Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:
        > That's kind of the point.
        > why remake a movie
        > if you can't improve on the original?

        -- But I thought the idea was that it wasn't meant to be a remake?

        Neil
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        Group: potadg Message: 35797 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
        Subject: Re: The state of the franchise of the Planet of the Apes
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        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...> wrote:
        > Hey Ty.....when is issue #2 coming out? I look forward
        > to it.....!

        -- Ty has already replied to this question. Check out post number
        35721.

        Neil
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        Group: potadg Message: 35798 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/28/2006
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          I think they are both good...just different (despite
          what Roddy said!) Cornelius looks younger and scrappy
          while Caesar is wise and someone you don't want to
          cross...
          Tim

          --- Haristas@... wrote:

          > In a message dated 1/27/06 7:50:30 PM Eastern
          > Standard Time,
          > apefan23@... writes:
          >
          >
          > > I think it's simply because everyone (meaning the
          > > general public) always thinks of Roddy when they
          > hear
          > > about POTA.....so they use pics of Cornelius or
          > Caesar
          > > for recognition....and I think that THEY think
          > that no
          > > one (in the general public) could tell one chimp
          > from
          > > another....
          > >
          > > they are probably all based on this photo......
          > >
          > > Tim
          > >
          >
          >
          >
          > Yes, that is the image used on the video covers, and
          > it's the model for the
          > "Ultimate Edition" bust.
          >
          > I don't like it because I don't think McDowall's
          > Caesar makeup is as good as
          > Cornelius' in the original. Look at booth and tell
          > me what you think.
          >
          >
          >


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          Group: potadg Message: 35799 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/28/2006
          Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
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            These are really great guys....altho I don't wish to
            see any of the leads get killed....

            Tim


            --- Neil T Foster <nfoster@...> wrote:

            >
            > Neil
            >
            >


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            Group: potadg Message: 35800 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/28/2006
            Subject: Re: The state of the franchise of the Planet of the Apes
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            Yes I read that....I responded before I read his
            answer...I was catching up on 400 emails!!!...you miss
            a few days and sheesh they pile up!!

            Tim

            --- Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

            > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
            > <apefan23@y...> wrote:
            > > Hey Ty.....when is issue #2 coming out? I look
            > forward
            > > to it.....!
            >
            > -- Ty has already replied to this question. Check
            > out post number
            > 35721.
            >
            > Neil
            >
            >
            >
            >


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            Group: potadg Message: 35801 From: John Date: 1/28/2006
            Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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            What? No boats in your Central City sketch? Great as always. I Look
            foward to following the fugitives demise. Make sure you take Burkes
            shirt off when you kill him. I wouldn't want you to disappoint anyone.



            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
            >
            >
            > Hello,
            >
            > This email message is a notification to let you know that
            > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
            > group.
            >
            > File : /Going Home/GH Pencils & Text/wmTV page 12
            (pencilsl).jpg
            > Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@h...>
            > Description :
            >
            > You can access this file at the URL:
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Going%20Home/GH%
            20Pencils%20%26%20Text/wmTV%20page%2012%20%28pencilsl%29.jpg
            >
            > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
            > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
            >
            > Regards,
            >
            > munkeyman63au <nfoster@h...>
            >
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            Group: potadg Message: 35802 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/28/2006
            Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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            In a message dated 1/28/2006 8:44:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
            -- But I thought the idea was that it wasn't meant to be a remake?
             
            Boxoffice Mojo doesn't see it that way.
             
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            Group: potadg Message: 35803 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/28/2006
            Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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            In a message dated 1/28/2006 8:45:05 A.M. Central Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:
            Is Hollywood out of idea or something? Whats with all the remakes?
             
            Not only that, but their remaking movies that were fine in the first place.
            It took them 3 times to get the Maltese Falcon right, but don't remake
            a classic.  Not unless it's going to be infinitely better.
             
             
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            Group: potadg Message: 35804 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
            Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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            .html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 8:45:18 AM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
            >That's kind of the point.
            >why remake a movie
            >if you can't improve on the original?

            -- But I thought the idea was that it wasn't meant to be a remake?


            Exactly... They took the idea of an ape dominated world and all that, but it had nothing in common with APES other than the name...
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            Group: potadg Message: 35805 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
            Subject: Re: Legacy Set Cover
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            .html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 9:17:11 AM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

            while Caesar is wise and someone you don't want to
            cross...


            And along came BATTLE where they basically cut his balls off....
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            Group: potadg Message: 35806 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
            Subject: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
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              When I wrote this I was trying to get an effect they get in the movies where two different things are happening at the same time.

               

              Firstly – love that Central City Neil.  Just the way it is sposed ta look!

               

              For those of you who ARE getting confused, we are trying to fuse the “back at the ranch” story with Galen’s torture.

               

              Did this confuse anyone or am I unnecessarily concerned?

               

              Michael

               

              -----Original Message-----
              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
              Sent:
              Saturday, 28 January 2006 12:54 PM
              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: [PotaDG] Going Home (original pencils & text) 12

               

              Neil

               

               


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              Group: potadg Message: 35807 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
              Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
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              .html.html In a message dated 1/28/06 10:50:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:


              These are really great guys....altho I don't wish to
              see any of the leads get killed....

              Tim


              Kill them!  Kill them all!

              General Aldo
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              Group: potadg Message: 35808 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
              Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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              Sure makes you wonder…..

               

              -----Original Message-----
              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tshaf37@...
              Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 1:42 AM
              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.

               

              In a message dated 1/27/2006 11:46:16 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

              Speaking of which, Fox's remake of "The Omen" comes out June 6th. That was fast. The trailer is already online. - - - Jeff

              Is Hollywood out of idea or something? Whats with all the remakes?


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              Group: potadg Message: 35809 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
              Subject: Radio Spots CD cover Take II
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              Attachments :
                .html.html I made a second cover for the eventual "Radio Spots" (and other stuff) CD.  I like this one better even though I spent less time making it.  What do you think?

                -- Rory

                Head dudes, please put in file sections!
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                Group: potadg Message: 35810 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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                Yes – a RE-INVENTION right?

                 

                Novel idea, had it been properly executed.

                 

                Michael

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
                Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 1:44 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.

                 

                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
                > That's kind of the point.
                > why remake a movie
                > if you can't improve on the original?

                -- But I thought the idea was that it wasn't meant to be a remake?

                Neil


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                Group: potadg Message: 35811 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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                .html.html In a message dated 1/28/06 3:46:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:


                Not only that, but their remaking movies that were fine in the first place.

                Yeah, like PLANET OF THE APES and KING KONG.

                -- Rory
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                Group: potadg Message: 35812 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
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                I’m telling Valerie you said that! ;)

                 

                And I don’t see it as a demise…..I see it as “becoming real”.

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
                Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 7:27 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

                 

                What? No boats in your Central City sketch? Great as always. I Look
                foward to following the fugitives demise. Make sure you take Burkes
                shirt off when you kill him. I wouldn't want you to disappoint anyone.



                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
                >
                >
                >
                Hello,
                >


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                Group: potadg Message: 35813 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: Remakes
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                It’s rather obvious they are trying to make money from an established “name brand”.

                 

                Michael

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
                Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 7:45 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.

                 

                In a message dated 1/28/2006 8:45:05 A.M. Central Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:

                Is Hollywood out of idea or something? Whats with all the remakes?

                 

                Not only that, but their remaking movies that were fine in the first place.

                It took them 3 times to get the Maltese Falcon right, but don't remake

                a classic.  Not unless it's going to be infinitely better.


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                Group: potadg Message: 35814 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: Re: Legacy Set Cover
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                He seemed a bit distracted by his family in Battle !

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 8:18 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Legacy Set Cover

                 

                In a message dated 1/28/2006 9:17:11 AM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:


                while Caesar is wise and someone you don't want to
                cross...



                And along came BATTLE where they basically cut his balls off....

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                Group: potadg Message: 35815 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: Re: Radio Spots CD cover Take II
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                .htmlI like it except for the obvious black rectangle around the text. Can't you put the text directly atop the picture?


                On Jan 28, 2006, at 1:30 p.m., Haristas@... wrote:

                I made a second cover for the eventual "Radio Spots" (and other stuff) CD. I like this one better even though I spent less time making it. What do you think?

                -- Rory

                Head dudes, please put in file sections!
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                Group: potadg Message: 35816 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.
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                And all those corny lines they adapted from the original….

                 

                Michael

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 8:17 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.

                 

                In a message dated 1/28/2006 8:45:18 AM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

                >That's kind of the point.
                >why remake a movie
                >if you can't improve on the original?

                -- But I thought the idea was that it wasn't meant to be a remake?



                Exactly... They took the idea of an ape dominated world and all that, but it had nothing in common with APES other than the name...

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                Group: potadg Message: 35817 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
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                Dude, that knucklehead Aldo needs a work over too don’t you think?

                 

                Michael

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
                Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 2:58 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12

                 

                In a message dated 1/28/06 10:50:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:



                These are really great guys....altho I don't wish to
                see any of the leads get killed....

                Tim



                Kill them!  Kill them all!

                General Aldo

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                Group: potadg Message: 35818 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: Re: Radio Spots CD cover Take II
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                .html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 3:24:00 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:


                I made a second cover for the eventual "Radio Spots" (and other stuff) CD.  I like this one better even though I spent less time making it.  What do you think?


                I like it...
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                Group: potadg Message: 35819 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: Re: Radio Spots CD cover Take II
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                I like it too Rory, and I must have a low-resolution screen because I can’t SEE the black rectangle!

                Michael

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
                Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 8:29 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Radio Spots CD cover Take II

                 

                I like it except for the obvious black rectangle around the text. Can't you put the text directly atop the picture?

                 

                 

                On Jan 28, 2006, at 1:30 p.m., Haristas@... wrote:



                I made a second cover for the eventual "Radio Spots" (and other stuff) CD.  I like this one better even though I spent less time making it.  What do you think?

                -- Rory

                Head dudes, please put in file sections!
                 


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                Group: potadg Message: 35820 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                Subject: New home-page beast!
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                  Hey – I notice the Home Page picture is the Beware the Beast poster.

                   

                  I know we have a lot of new members here so is there anyone who does not know what BEWARE THE BEAST is?


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                  Group: potadg Message: 35821 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Back to the group comic.......
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                  As you all know, Neil can imitate the style of various artists.

                   

                  For the new group comic, should we ask him to do a certain style other than his own?

                   

                  I was thinking the “Batman – The Animated Series” style….

                   

                  Neil, you got a variety of apes drawn in this style you could share with us?

                  If so could you please send as individual emails – I can’t seem to currently log on to the group to see files!

                  Michael

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                  Group: potadg Message: 35822 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Tuska FRAUD!
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                  Bad news readers……I have heard back from George Tuska re a supposed illustration by him that was published by our friends at Simian Scrolls.

                   

                  Neil, before I go on…..do you have a scan of the offending illustration and accompanying title?

                   

                  This is a black day for POTA fandom……

                   

                  Michael

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                  Group: potadg Message: 35823 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
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                  .html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:08:56 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

                  This is a black day for POTA fandom……


                  How so? Fill us in?
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                  Group: potadg Message: 35824 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: A Question for Ty
                  .html
                  .html.htmlTy,

                  Have you ever considered letting an "outsider illustrate an issue (or more) of the APES comics your company is publishing? The one I am thinking of is Neil from this group, his recent work is excellent...

                  He does a lot af great drawing for the Going Home comics he and Whitty are doing, so maybe your should consider those as part of his "portfolio" and let him get a shot at "the big time" with an actually published comic?
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                  Group: potadg Message: 35825 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
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                  Let me add my song of praise to Neil here…..

                   

                  Not only does he spend hours a day making and uploading home page pictures and other bits and pieces for us to discuss, but he actually provides us with comics of an excellent standard and asks for nothing in return other than a few comments (and recently he has not even been getting these!).

                   

                  Neil does get depressed by the lack of input, so if anyone else wants to remind him that he IS appreciated…..now might be a good time.  I know for sure Neil HAS got better things to do with his time…..

                   

                  Michael

                   

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                  Sent:
                  Sunday, 29 January 2006 9:19 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [PotaDG] A Question for Ty

                   

                  Ty,

                  Have you ever considered letting an "outsider illustrate an issue (or more) of the APES comics your company is publishing? The one I am thinking of is Neil from this group, his recent work is excellent...

                  He does a lot af great drawing for the Going Home comics he and Whitty are doing, so maybe your should consider those as part of his "portfolio" and let him get a shot at "the big time" with an actually published comic?

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                  Group: potadg Message: 35827 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Tuska FRAUD!
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                  I will – just wait till we have the picture and I’ll explain….but in a nutshell – he did NOT draw the ape face!

                   

                  Michael

                   

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                  Sent:
                  Sunday, 29 January 2006 9:21 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Spam Alert: Re: [PotaDG] Tuska FRAUD!

                   

                  In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:08:56 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:


                  This is a black day for POTA fandom……



                  How so? Fill us in?

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                  Group: potadg Message: 35828 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
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                  .html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:40:09 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

                  asks for nothing in return other than a few comments (and recently he has not even been getting these!).

                  I do chime in with commentary, but I can't be the only one with anything good to say about his work... If I am, then that IS too bad... 




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                  Group: potadg Message: 35829 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
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                  Rory – you need to re-order the head, dude! 

                   

                  Michael

                   

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                  Sent:
                  Sunday, 29 January 2006 9:40 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: [PotaDG] Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT available seperately

                   

                  Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT available separately!

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                  Group: potadg Message: 35830 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
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                  .htmlI'd love to see Neil's work get the exposure it deserves. I rank him up there with Alfredo Alcala and Mike Ploog as an Apes artist. Nobody else is even close.


                  On Jan 28, 2006, at 4:19 p.m., mlccougar@... wrote:

                  Ty,

                  Have you ever considered letting an "outsider illustrate an issue (or more) of the APES comics your company is publishing? The one I am thinking of is Neil from this group, his recent work is excellent...

                  He does a lot af great drawing for the Going Home comics he and Whitty are doing, so maybe your should consider those as part of his "portfolio" and let him get a shot at "the big time" with an actually published comic?
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                  Group: potadg Message: 35831 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT availabl
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                  .html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:58:36 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

                  you need to re-order the head, dude! 

                  I'll be ordering that ugly head... Hopefully with a comb (and/or maybe a scissors,) it could be made to look better... And maybe there'd be a way to give him a Cornelius type collar so he'd look better too...
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                  Group: potadg Message: 35832 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT availabl
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                  Maybe we should ask Brian at Apemania to offer a makeover kit?  J

                   

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                  Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 10:01 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT available...

                   

                  In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:58:36 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:


                  you need to re-order the head, dude! 



                  I'll be ordering that ugly head... Hopefully with a comb (and/or maybe a scissors,) it could be made to look better... And maybe there'd be a way to give him a Cornelius type collar so he'd look better too...

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                  Group: potadg Message: 35833 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
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                  .html.html In a message dated 1/28/2006 5:09:37 PM Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:

                  I'd love to see Neil's work get the exposure it deserves.


                  I agree 100%... And truthfully, I prefer his art over either of the guys that you mentioned... Neil's work had me convinced from Beware the Beast...
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                  Group: potadg Message: 35834 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/28/2006
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                  Alcala and Ploog have nostalgia on their side. I liked the unusual stuff that Ploog came up with, as well. Neil's artwork is brilliant, but we're mostly seeing familiar types of characters and settings. I'd like to see some Ploogian mutant animals, drones, shamblers, and yes, even giant brains in jars.

                  On Jan 28, 2006, at 5:22 p.m., mlccougar@... wrote:

                  In a message dated 1/28/2006 5:09:37 PM Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:

                  I'd love to see Neil's work get the exposure it deserves.

                  I agree 100%... And truthfully, I prefer his art over either of the guys that you mentioned... Neil's work had me convinced from Beware the Beast...

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                  Group: potadg Message: 35835 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/28/2006
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                    www.tvshowsondvd.com has more from Fox. Ape-parently the "Return to the POTA" cartoon show won't be available separate from the "Ultimate Collection" on March 28th. What I understand is they are redoing it so it can be released separately as a single disc (in the collection it's 2 discs). So I GUESS they are going to cram them all onto one disc, which sucks. I'd rather pay for 2 discs, like they did with "Clone Wars" (Vol.1, Vol. 2).
                    We'll see how the dust settles on that but in the meantime those not getting the Ultimate Collection (like me) will have to wait.  - - - Jeff
                   
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                  Group: potadg Message: 35836 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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                  Hello,

                  This email message is a notification to let you know that
                  a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
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                  To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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                  Group: potadg Message: 35837 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
                  Subject: Re: Back to the group comic.......
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                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
                    > As you
                    all know, Neil can imitate the style of various artists.
                    > For the new
                    group comic, should we ask him to do a certain style other than his own?
                    >
                    I was thinking the "Batman - The Animated Series" style..
                    > Neil, you got
                    a variety of apes drawn in this style you could share with us?
                    > If so
                    could you please send as individual emails - I can't seem to
                    > currently
                    log on to the group to see files!
                     
                    Neil
                     
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                    Group: potadg Message: 35838 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
                    Subject: Re: Back to the group comic.......
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                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
                      > As you
                      all know, Neil can imitate the style of various artists.
                      > For the new
                      group comic, should we ask him to do a certain style other than his own?
                      >
                      I was thinking the "Batman - The Animated Series" style..
                      > Neil, you got
                      a variety of apes drawn in this style you could share with us?
                      > If so
                      could you please send as individual emails - I can't seem to
                      > currently
                      log on to the group to see files!
                      Neil
                       
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                      Group: potadg Message: 35839 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
                      Subject: Re: Back to the group comic.......
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                        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
                        > As you
                        all know, Neil can imitate the style of various artists.
                        > For the new
                        group comic, should we ask him to do a certain style other than his own?
                        >
                        I was thinking the "Batman - The Animated Series" style..
                        > Neil, you got
                        a variety of apes drawn in this style you could share with us?
                        > If so
                        could you please send as individual emails - I can't seem to
                        > currently
                        log on to the group to see files!
                        Neil
                         
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                        Group: potadg Message: 35840 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
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                        Maybe when we have shown the 22 pages from GOING HOME (part1) we should re-post Beware the Beast daily and include the 7 additional pages that are not available on-line?

                        Michael

                         

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                        Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 10:23 AM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Question for Ty

                         

                        In a message dated 1/28/2006 5:09:37 PM Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:


                        I'd love to see Neil's work get the exposure it deserves.



                        I agree 100%... And truthfully, I prefer his art over either of the guys that you mentioned... Neil's work had me convinced from Beware the Beast...

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                        Group: potadg Message: 35841 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                        Subject: A Question for Ty
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                        So would Neil!  Have you two been conspiring?!?!?!?!?  ;)

                         

                        Michael

                         

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
                        Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 10:35 AM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Question for Ty

                         

                        Alcala and Ploog have nostalgia on their side. I liked the unusual stuff that Ploog came up with, as well. Neil's artwork is brilliant, but we're mostly seeing familiar types of characters and settings. I'd like to see some Ploogian mutant animals, drones, shamblers, and yes, even giant brains in jars.

                         

                        On Jan 28, 2006, at 5:22 p.m., mlccougar@... wrote:



                        In a message dated 1/28/2006 5:09:37 PM Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:


                        I'd love to see Neil's work get the exposure it deserves.


                        I agree 100%... And truthfully, I prefer his art over either of the guys that you mentioned... Neil's work had me convinced from Beware the Beast...
                         


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                        Group: potadg Message: 35842 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
                        Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
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                          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
                          > Bad
                          news readers..I have heard back from George Tuska re a supposed
                          >
                          illustration by him that was published by our friends at Simian Scrolls.
                          >
                          Neil, before I go on...do you have a scan of the offending illustration and accompanying title?
                          > This is a black day for POTA fandom..
                           
                          Neil
                           
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                          Group: potadg Message: 35843 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
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                            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
                            > Bad
                            news readers..I have heard back from George Tuska re a supposed
                            >
                            illustration by him that was published by our friends at Simian Scrolls.
                            >
                            Neil, before I go on...do you have a scan of the offending illustration and accompanying title?
                            > This is a black day for POTA
                            fandom..
                             
                            -- Sorry I sent the wrong one last time, you meant this one didn't you? ;-)
                             
                            Neil
                             
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                            Group: potadg Message: 35844 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
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                              Thanks Neil!

                               

                              So….what does everyone think?  Personally, I always prefer the realistic/detailed style Neil uses for Going Home and Beware the Beast, but I know people like to see different styles…….over to you………

                               

                              Michael

                              Neil

                               

                               


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                              Group: potadg Message: 35845 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
                              Subject: Re: New home-page beast!
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                                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
                                > Hey - I
                                notice the Home Page picture is the Beware the Beast poster.
                                > I know we
                                have a lot of new members here so is there anyone who does not know what BEWARE THE BEAST is?
                                -- Yeah but I did have to crop the image a fair bit to make it fit! Here's what it really looks like:
                                 
                                Neil
                                 
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                                Group: potadg Message: 35846 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                                Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
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                                  VERY FUNNY!

                                   

                                  It wasn’t quite THAT bad a forgery….gotta go play cricket….LATER!

                                   

                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
                                  Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 11:19 AM
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Tuska FRAUD!

                                   

                                  --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

                                  > Bad news readers..I have heard back from George Tuska re a supposed
                                  > illustration by him that was published by our friends at Simian Scrolls.
                                  > Neil, before I go on...do you have a scan of the offending illustration
                                  and accompanying title?
                                  > This is a black day for POTA fandom..

                                   

                                  Neil

                                   

                                   


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                                  Group: potadg Message: 35847 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/28/2006
                                  Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
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                                    Yes I did.

                                     

                                    Tuska claims the hand and gun are his, and he is FURIOUS that the APE HEAD is NOT!

                                     

                                    Michael

                                     

                                    -----Original Message-----
                                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
                                    Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 11:21 AM
                                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Tuska FRAUD!

                                     

                                    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

                                    > Bad news readers..I have heard back from George Tuska re a supposed
                                    > illustration by him that was published by our friends at Simian Scrolls.
                                    > Neil, before I go on...do you have a scan of the offending illustration
                                    and accompanying title?
                                    > This is a black day for POTA fandom..

                                     

                                    -- Sorry I sent the wrong one last time, you meant this one didn't you? ;-)

                                     

                                    Neil

                                     

                                     


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                                    Group: potadg Message: 35848 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
                                    Subject: Re: Tuska FRAUD!
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                                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
                                      > Bad
                                      news readers..I have heard back from George Tuska re a supposed
                                      >
                                      illustration by him that was published by our friends at Simian Scrolls.
                                      >
                                      Neil, before I go on...do you have a scan of the offending illustration and accompanying title?
                                      > This is a black day for POTA
                                      fandom..
                                       
                                      -- Sorry forgot to include the accompanying text last time.
                                       
                                       
                                      Neil
                                       
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                                      Group: potadg Message: 35849 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/28/2006
                                      Subject: Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT availabl
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                                         FOX: Cougar, run in place real fast. Now touch your nose.
                                       
                                        COUGAR: Yes, master.
                                       
                                        FOX: You are our pawn!
                                       
                                      ----- Original Message -----
                                      Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:17 PM
                                      Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT available...

                                      Maybe we should ask Brian at Apemania to offer a makeover kit?  J

                                       

                                      -----Original Message-----
                                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                                      Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 10:01 AM
                                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Return to the Planet of the Apes - Animated series NOT available...

                                       

                                      In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:58:36 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:


                                      you need to re-order the head, dude! 



                                      I'll be ordering that ugly head... Hopefully with a comb (and/or maybe a scissors,) it could be made to look better... And maybe there'd be a way to give him a Cornelius type collar so he'd look better too...

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                                      Group: potadg Message: 35850 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
                                      Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
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                                        This didn't confuse me. What I'm still puzzling over is the motivation of the new bad guys, the SF humans. They dug Pete and Galen (and maybe Alan) out of the rubble that fell on them from the earthquake, which must have been quite an undertaking. Clearly the SF humans want something from Pete and Galen, otherwise why go to all that trouble? Why not just leave them to die? Yet they gave up on questioning Pete pretty quickly, and don't seem as interested in questioning Galen so much as torturing him. Again, they must have expended a lot of energy rescuing the pair (trio?)and transporting them. I hope it was for more than the cheap thrill of cutting up an ape. Hopefully we'll learn more about their motivations when we meet the mysterious Mustapha, but right now these villains are just coming off as mean and one-dimensional. Say what you will about the TV series and how 'dated' it seems by today's standards of drama, but at least the antagonists had clear motivations and weren't just evil for evil's sake. Urko and Zaius were trying to preserve the simian way of life. They saw themselves as patriots and heroes. Hopefully the coming pages will tell us a little more about Ponytail and Gorilla Vest.
                                         
                                        Greg

                                        Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
                                        When I wrote this I was trying to get an effect they get in the movies where two different things are happening at the same time.
                                         
                                        Firstly – love that Central City Neil.   Just the way it is sposed ta look!
                                         
                                        For those of you who ARE getting confused, we are trying to fuse the “back at the ranch” story with Galen’s torture.
                                         
                                        Did this confuse anyone or am I unnecessarily concerned?
                                         
                                        Michael
                                         
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                                        Group: potadg Message: 35851 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/28/2006
                                        Subject: Re: cricket FRAUD! ;-)
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                                          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
                                          > VERY
                                          FUNNY!
                                          > It wasn't quite THAT bad a forgery..gotta go play
                                          cricket..LATER!
                                           
                                          -- Good luck!
                                           
                                           
                                          Neil 8-)
                                           
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                                          Group: potadg Message: 35852 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
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                                          I like it, too, but I agree it would look better without the black panel. If you can't drop out the panel and just have the type, perhaps a different color could be used for the panel.
                                           
                                          Greg
                                           
                                          "Anthony B. McElveen" <abmac@...> wrote:
                                          I like it except for the obvious black rectangle around the text. Can't you put the text directly atop the picture?


                                          On Jan 28, 2006, at 1:30 p.m., Haristas@... wrote:

                                          I made a second cover for the eventual "Radio Spots" (and other stuff) CD.  I like this one better even though I spent less time making it.  What do you think?

                                          -- Rory

                                          Head dudes, please put in file sections!
                                           
                                           
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                                          Group: potadg Message: 35853 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
                                          Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
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                                          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
                                          > They dug Pete and Galen (and maybe Alan) out of the rubble that fell
                                          on them from the earthquake, which must have been quite an
                                          undertaking.

                                          -- Well that's just an assumption isn't it. Just because they were
                                          caught in an earth tremor dose not automatically mean they would be
                                          buried under tons of rubble does it?

                                          Neil
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                                          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
                                          > Hopefully we'll learn more about their motivations when we meet the
                                          mysterious Mustapha, but right now these villains are just coming off
                                          as mean and one-dimensional. Say what you will about the TV series and
                                          how 'dated' it seems by today's standards of drama, but at least the
                                          antagonists had clear motivations and weren't just evil for evil's
                                          sake.

                                          -- Maybe these humans were fed up being ruled and bullied by apes and
                                          finally had the balls to get organised and fight back? Maybe they
                                          wanted to stop being sheep and decided to become human again?

                                          Neil
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                                          Group: potadg Message: 35855 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
                                          Subject: Re: A Question for Ty
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                                          I love Neil's work, and can't wait to see the pages of Going Home beyond the ones I've seen previously, despite my misgivings about the story itself, which I'm trying to keep an open mind about. Page 12 may just be my favorite page of the ones posted so far, but if I recall correctly the next page has some nice images for TV series fans as well.
                                           
                                          I see Neil's art everyday, as I use the card set wrapper art for my wallpaper both on my home and work PCs, and I've got the BtB color print on my wall at work.
                                           
                                          I'd love to see him get a shot at illustrating a back-up story for Revolution or the next mini-series. (Heck, I'd love to see him draw the main story for the next mini series, but I figure Ty needs someone with more of a 'name' to sell the book. Heck, even if Neil was just doing a pin-up in one of the Apes comics, I'd buy a dozen extra copies.
                                           
                                          Greg  

                                          mlccougar@... wrote:
                                          In a message dated 1/28/2006 4:40:09 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

                                          asks for nothing in return other than a few comments (and recently he has not even been getting these!).

                                          I do chime in with commentary, but I can't be the only one with anything good to say about his work... If I am, then that IS too bad... 


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                                          Group: potadg Message: 35856 From: Neil Date: 1/28/2006
                                          Subject: Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12
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                                          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
                                          > but right now these villains are just coming off as mean and one-
                                          dimensional.

                                          -- Yeah like a LOT of the human race is these days...

                                          Neil
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                                          Group: potadg Message: 35857 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
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                                            These are great. I'd love to see a comic in this style. Who's the astronaut? He doesn't look like any of the film or TV characters. Is he an all-new character?
                                             
                                            Greg

                                            Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
                                            Thanks Neil!
                                             
                                            So….what does everyone think?  Personally, I always prefer the realistic/detailed style Neil uses for Going Home and Beware the Beast, but I know people like to see different styles…….over to you………
                                             
                                            Michael
                                             
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                                            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
                                            > These are great. I'd love to see a comic in this style. Who's the
                                            astronaut? He doesn't look like any of the film or TV characters. Is
                                            he an all-new character?

                                            -- Thanks Greg, yes he is a totally new character I made up. I was
                                            thinking of him in my head as 'Steve Majors' when I was drawing him
                                            but that is open to change.

                                            Neil
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                                            Group: potadg Message: 35859 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
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                                            True, we only see Alan fall into a hole in the ground and get buried under some rubble. But there's a fair bit of it in the panels where we see Pete and Galen get struck on the heads (and some fairly large pieces in Galen's apanel) so I think it's a fair extrapolation that there would be a decent amount of rubble surrounding and or covering their bodies. Not to mention that with the big hole that opened up and swallowed Alan, I'd be a little nervous about venturing into the area and retrieving any bodies, risking my life just so I could torture someone. That's why I'm thinking there must be more to Ponytail and Gorilla Vest than we've seen so far and that this will come to light in the remaining pages, perhaps after we've met Mustapha.
                                             
                                            Greg

                                            Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:
                                            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski wrote:
                                            > They dug Pete and Galen (and maybe Alan) out of the rubble that fell
                                            on them from the earthquake, which must have been quite an
                                            undertaking.

                                            -- Well that's just an assumption isn't it. Just because they were
                                            caught in an earth tremor dose not automatically mean they would be
                                            buried under tons of rubble does it?

                                            Neil






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                                            It's clear from Gorilla Vest's attire that these SF humans have been taking the fight to the apes, unlike many of the humans we encountered in the TV series. I'm just curious about what they want specifically from Pete and Galen (and maybe Alan). They clearly don't like Galen because he's an ape, but they also took an instant dislike to Pete. They didn't just assume he was Galen's servant and offer to rescue him from Galen's servitude so he could join them in their fight against the apes. They were instantly hostile to Pete. They call him an ape lover, although Ponytail calls Galen a liar when he says Pete and Alan are his friends, an interesting contradiction.
                                             
                                            Greg


                                            Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:
                                            -- Maybe these humans were fed up being ruled and bullied by apes and
                                            finally had the balls to get organised and fight back? Maybe they
                                            wanted to stop being sheep and decided to become human again?

                                            Neil
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                                            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
                                            > Say what you will about the TV series and how 'dated' it seems by
                                            today's standards of drama, but at least the antagonists had clear
                                            motivations and weren't just evil for evil's sake. Urko and Zaius
                                            were trying to preserve the simian way of life. They saw themselves
                                            as patriots and heroes

                                            -- Maybe these humans are not just "evil for evil's sake", maybe
                                            they have valid reasons for being the way they are? What if they all
                                            have had family killed by apes in the past, the way the humans were
                                            treated makes this not that far fetched. Then all they would need is
                                            a leader to organise them to fight back, or live in an old abandoned
                                            human city and defend it from any Apes.

                                            Then maybe they could get bolder and actually start an insurgency
                                            and use guerrilla tactics to fight back at the apes. There are
                                            endless possibilities but it would take a whole extra (maybe more!)
                                            comic story to explore all their different motivations.

                                            Neil
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                                            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
                                            > but they also took an instant dislike to Pete. They didn't just
                                            assume he was Galen's servant and offer to rescue him from Galen's
                                            servitude so he could join them in their fight against the apes. They
                                            were instantly hostile to Pete.

                                            -- Maybe because they knew who he was! I'm sure after 9 or 10 years
                                            the 'fame' of the as-tro-nauts would have spred, especially amongst
                                            the human population. Sure they were hunted by Urko and Zaius but they
                                            were still also friendly with a lot of other apes. Maybe that would
                                            make these ape hating humans hostile towards the astronauts.

                                            Neil
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                                            Group: potadg Message: 35863 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
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                                            I'm not saying the SF humans don't have valid reasons for being the way they are, I'm just saying I'd like a little more info about them than what's been presented. All of what you say below may be part of the backstory that you and Mike have worked out, but it would be nice to have some hints of that in the story itself. Maybe this information comes out later in the story when we meet Mustapha (assuming we do meet him in these 222 pages). Ponytail's hatred doesn't seem to be restricted just to apes given the way he treats Pete. If they're trying to mount an insurgency against the apes, wouldn't they need as many human recruits as they could get?
                                             
                                            Greg
                                             

                                            Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:
                                            -- Maybe these humans are not just "evil for evil's sake", maybe
                                            they have valid reasons for being the way they are? What if they all
                                            have had family killed by apes in the past, the way the humans were
                                            treated makes this not that far fetched. Then all they would need is
                                            a leader to organise them to fight back, or live in an old abandoned
                                            human city and defend it from any Apes.

                                            Then maybe they could get bolder and actually start an insurgency
                                            and use guerrilla tactics to fight back at the apes. There are
                                            endless possibilities but it would take a whole extra (maybe more!)
                                            comic story to explore all their different motivations.

                                            Neil
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                                            Group: potadg Message: 35864 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
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                                            Oh. I completely didn't get that they knew who Pete was. In fact, Ponytail calling both Pete and Galen liars would seem to indicate that he doesn't know who they are, or at least heard the stories differently.
                                             
                                            Greg

                                            Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:
                                            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski wrote:
                                            > but they also took an instant dislike to Pete. They didn't just
                                            assume he was Galen's servant and offer to rescue him from Galen's
                                            servitude so he could join them in their fight against the apes. They
                                            were instantly hostile to Pete.

                                            -- Maybe because they knew who he was! I'm sure after 9 or 10 years
                                            the 'fame' of the as-tro-nauts would have spred, especially amongst
                                            the human population. Sure they were hunted by Urko and Zaius but they
                                            were still also friendly with a lot of other apes. Maybe that would
                                            make these ape hating humans hostile towards the astronauts.

                                            Neil






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                                            Execlent job Neil. Real nice, maybe you can draw me a cover for my apes book some day?
                                             
                                            Tom
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                                            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
                                            > Oh. I completely didn't get that they knew who Pete was. In fact,
                                            Ponytail calling both Pete and Galen liars would seem to indicate that
                                            he doesn't know who they are, or at least heard the stories
                                            differently.

                                            -- Okay maybe they don't know who Pete is then and had been observing
                                            them for a while and come to the conclusion that he was more friendly
                                            than a servant should be to an ape?

                                            And of course they are going to want to know what an ape and a couple
                                            of strangers are doing walking around in 'their' city. I'm pretty
                                            certain any 'fugutives' who wanted to join them would not be
                                            travelling with an ape.

                                            Neil
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                                            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
                                            > All of what you say below may be part of the backstory that you and
                                            Mike have worked out, but it would be nice to have some hints of that
                                            in the story itself.

                                            -- No nothing to do with any back story though there is a basic one in
                                            place and more will be revealed at a later date. I am just offering
                                            possible explanations of what may be or why things could be happening
                                            the way they are.

                                            Remember I just draw the pictures.

                                            Neil

                                            PS. Now I'm starting to get a bit worried what your reaction is going
                                            to be when you see page 14 and a few of the ones beyond that!
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                                            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
                                            > I am just offering possible explanations of what may be or why
                                            things could be happening the way they are.

                                            -- And can I just add that if anyone else has an opinion or any ideas
                                            on what is going on and what is motivating characters to act the way
                                            they are please jump in and and let us know what you feel.
                                            We will not bite your head off for having differing opinions and
                                            ideas. After all that is what the group is all about- discussing
                                            things and having your own opinions on things!

                                            Neil
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                                            Group: potadg Message: 35870 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/28/2006
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                                            This is a great page. Nice to see some old friends. The likenesses are spot-on.
                                             
                                            Nice to see that former Prefect Veska, second cousin to Galen (on his mother's side) did not have his political career derailed by his association with Galen, much like Yalu's career has also seemed to thrive.
                                             
                                            Interesting that Wanda is now on the council. I would have preferred to have seen Carsia instead. Would be interesting to imagine how she changed her plans from trying to overthrow the council to working within the system instead.
                                             
                                            I thought the map was in Urko's office rather than the council chambers. I suppose it's possible that sometime in the past 9 years it could have been copied or moved.
                                             
                                            I find Zaius thinking here very interesting. perhaps one of those ancient human books in his office is by Mario Puzo. Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.
                                             
                                            Greg

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                                            Group: potadg Message: 35871 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2006
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                                            Greg,

                                             

                                            Did you see the eyeball on a previous page?

                                             

                                            Ponytail has been WATCHING them walking through SF and talking/acting like friends.

                                             

                                            Ponytail and Gorilla Vest viciously guard SF City and their fortress (another piece I had to use from Dave Ballard’s story).

                                             

                                            Future pages will show you that they ARE quite anti-apes and they DO love to torture them and kill them and….well, you’ll see!

                                             

                                            As for the “contradiction”……Ponytail is obviously a bit paranoid.  He thinks Galen, Pete and Alan are scouts, sussing out SF.  When Galen says “those humans are my friends and…”, ponytail is not hearing “We are spies and we have an army coming” so he starts swinging.  He’s not real smart Greg….sorry!  ;)

                                             

                                            Michael

                                             

                                            -----Original Message-----
                                            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
                                            Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2006 1:01 PM
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                                            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 12

                                             

                                            It's clear from Gorilla Vest's attire that these SF humans have been taking the fight to the apes, unlike many of the humans we encountered in the TV series. I'm just curious about what they want specifically from Pete and Galen (and maybe Alan). They clearly don't like Galen because he's an ape, but they also took an instant dislike to Pete. They didn't just assume he was Galen's servant and offer to rescue him from Galen's servitude so he could join them in their fight against the apes. They were instantly hostile to Pete. They call him an ape lover, although Ponytail calls Galen a liar when he says Pete and Alan are his friends, an interesting contradiction.

                                             

                                            Greg



                                            Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

                                            -- Maybe these humans were fed up being ruled and bullied by apes and
                                            finally had the balls to get organised and fight back? Maybe they
                                            wanted to stop being sheep and decided to become human again?

                                            Neil

                                             


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                                            Group: potadg Message: 35872 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2006
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                                            That will come Greg and there will be a nice twist too.

                                             

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                                            Sent:
                                            Sunday, 29 January 2006 1:22 PM
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                                            I'm not saying the SF humans don't have valid reasons for being the way they are, I'm just saying I'd like a little more info about them than what's been presented.


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                                            Group: potadg Message: 35873 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/29/2006
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                                            Simply to interrogate them and they will not be happy until they hear “WE ARE SPIES SENT TO DISCOVER THE SECRETS OF YOUR CITY AND ITS’ FORTRESS”.

                                             

                                             

                                             

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                                            It's clear from Gorilla Vest's attire that these SF humans have been taking the fight to the apes, unlike many of the humans we encountered in the TV series. I'm just curious about what they want specifically from Pete and Galen (and maybe Alan).


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