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In a message dated 1/24/2007 8:09:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

And yes if you want to do a flying monkeys cover go ahead – Marvel sure did!

 

Do a cover of Monkeys Flying out of my butt.

I know that day will come, sooner or later.

 

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In a message dated 1/21/2007 11:15:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, itsthewho@... writes:

 I personally love your new strip,and have loved all of your strips (except  being honest the Zira horse thing)

 

Anyway, I was sleep writing when I wrote that.

I write all my stuff that way, so I can't be held

responsible for anything I wrote.  If Neil isn't

interested in finishing just maybe it could

be posted without the pictures.  Then if

someone wants to rewrite it they can.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/25/2007 3:44:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

But that's a fairly unusual venue hey?

I dunno.  I wouldn't be surprised it they

aired it on ESPN.  I've seen some

pretty strange filler on late at

night.  I'm not sure that the

genres they assign hold

up any more.  I can't

believe some of the

movies on AMC.

Classics they ain't!

 

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Yeah, I'm on it ...

Best,Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Plus Graham may want to read through the strip again to maybe get
> ideas and stuff and reacquaint himself with which characters are in it.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 11:54 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Comics.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It would be nice to have all the major TV show characters for the cover
> - but really whatever you want.
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=42950/stime=1169690767/nc1=3858789/nc2=3848610/nc3=4299910>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 1/24/2007 2:54:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> shop@... writes:
>
> I might just do that ... Does anyone know whether apes see in colour or not
> ?
> Best, Graham.
>
>
>
>
> All primates can see color.
> Not sure if they can see colour or not.
> I think the U is silent. Or invisible, or something.

 

Not in England it isn't !!!

Graham.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> OK - only if he has man-boobs from drinking too much beer! :-)
>
>
>
> It would be nice to have all the major TV show characters for the cover -
> but really whatever you want.
>
>
>
 Hi Michael, I take it the cover has to be in the same proportions as a modern comic ?

Best, Graham.

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I seem to had a few post go astray again,so if anything duplicates my apologies

Best, Graham.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 11:56 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

Neil,

 

Can you tell us when you do?

 

I very rarely visit the home page....

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> Cool and do you think you could get a link to the full painting for
> the ones you use in the future as well? I think the Urko is my
> favorite Graham painting at the moment. Great to see those characters
> used in such an uncharacteristic way.
>
>
Now I've joined the 21st century with this image hosting thing I should be able to do this John.(Once I know which pic Neil uses)

Saves Neil a job...

Best wishes Graham.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 7:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Comics.

Do a cover of Monkeys Flying out of my butt.

I know that day will come, sooner or later.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 7:31 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Stories

Not sure if they can see colour or not.

I think the U is silent.  Or invisible, or something.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> OK - only if he has man-boobs from drinking too much beer! :-)
>
>
>
> It would be nice to have all the major TV show characters for the cover -
> but really whatever you want.
>
>
>
> And yes if you want to do a flying monkeys cover go ahead - Marvel sure did!
>
>

 

Hi Michael, I take it the cover needs to be in the same proportions as a modern comic ?

Got a rough compositon worked out , may be a bit to clever for it's own good but ... Hmm flying monkeys hadn't thougt of them...

Best,Graham.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2007 5:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Stories

Not in England it isn't !!!

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...to see if this gets through. Yahoo seems to be stuffing up
(unbelievable I know!) So please just ignore this.

Thanks,
Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2007 6:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

Now I've joined the 21st century with this image hosting thing I should be able to do this John.(Once I know which pic Neil uses)

Saves Neil a job...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2007 1:26 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Yahoo problems

See what happens when you cut Neil’s Grass doing a comic cover?!?!?  J

England has a big chance of winning the one day match against the Aussie B side today.......

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2007 5:32 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comics.

Yeah, I'm on it ...

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  Bugger... I was working on a story and there was something at the back of my mind that  said they were colour blind...colour was going to be a story point ... hmm plan B...

Best, Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> I'm fairly sure they are colour-blind.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Graham Hill
> Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 7:36 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Stories
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" whitty@ wrote:
> >
> > Keep going!
> >
> >
> I might just do that ... Does anyone know whether apes see in colour or not
> ?
>
> Best, Graham.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 7:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

Anyway, I was sleep writing when I wrote that.

I write all my stuff that way, so I can't be held

responsible for anything I wrote.  If Neil isn't

interested in finishing just maybe it could

be posted without the pictures.  Then if

someone wants to rewrite it they can.

.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Cool, I'm really excited about this. I can't wait (but I know I have
> to!)
>
> Neil
>
>
The board is cut, some scribbles doubling up as preparatory drawings, created some free time to start putting "brush to canvas" on sunday.

All being well should take 2 or 3 weeks (The drying time of oils means I lose time between layers)

Best Graham.

Best Graham.

I see Neils put up a new home page picture so, as requested, here's a link to the full painting.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/GorillainCathedralcolour.jpg

Best wishes Graham.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Saturday, 27 January 2007 9:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Home page picture

I see Neils put up a new home page picture so, as requested, here's a link to the full painting.

http://i178. photobucket. com/albums/ w252/hill1965200 0/GorillainCathe dralcolour. jpg

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Thanks Graham!!! That is fantastic.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> I see Neils put up a new home page picture so, as requested, here's
a
> link to the full painting.
>
>
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/GorillainCathedra
lc\
> olour.jpg
>
<http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/GorillainCathedr
al\
> colour.jpg>
>
> Best wishes Graham.
>

.html Nice one Graham.  Curious. How big are the original paintings and how long does it take to  paint one? Or all they all different?

Dario

Neil T Foster wrote:

-- Thanks for that Graham. Weird how your post got through before the one I sent hours ago advising members that a new Home Page picture was up! Ah, Yahoo, we love you!

 

Neil

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Saturday, 27 January 2007 9:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Home page picture

I see Neils put up a new home page picture so, as requested, here's a link to the full painting.

http://i178. photobucket. com/albums/ w252/hill1965200 0/GorillainCathe dralcolour. jpg

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/22/2007 7:57:20 AM Central Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > Thanks Mike, but in all honesty I really do believe Patrick

mentioned it

>
> *** BEHIND came out in 1998, Patrick wasn't in these groups until

around the same time I found them, very late 2000/early2001 or so...
Creber is still the originator...

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario <darios@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the homepage logo/bookmark Graham.
>
> Actually with the tons of POTA pics I have, I've always wanted to make
> POTA bookmarks since I'm an avid reader and always keep bookmarks handy.
> Quite easy to do with any art and photo editing tools to jazz them up
> and blend/crop/recolour/scale/texture etc. But in the end I need one of
> those damned plastic lamination machines and I don't have one or have
> access to one. Arrgh!
>
> Dario
>
> You can never have too many book marks Dario !!
> I always wanted book marks as a kid,so it just seemed like a good idea.

The tricky thing was the compostion, tall and thin but I think it works ok.

I had a idea of doing a set of 4 but that petered out, there is talk of Scrolls using it as a free gift  (not sure if I should mention that or not ... oh well too late now)

The Dr Galen X-mas card was going to be the second bookmark but I ended up chopping the top off and knocking up the card.

Best Wishes Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- I wonder if they had detectives on the POTA? That could be a

starting

> idea for a new story!
>
> Neil

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*** In "BATTLE" MacDonald did some detective work at the crime scene
where Cornelius had suffered his mortal injuries. Remember when he
waves his hand over the embers of the fire? That tells him how long
ago those embers have been smoldering (i.e. since the time of
the "incident") -- meaning that Cornelius wasn't alone when he fell.

Then he yanks down the branch off of which the young chimp fell...
and he notices the chop-marks in it -- obviously made from a cutting
implement. When Virgil laments, "How could a benevolent God allow a
branch from one of His trees to break..." (etc etc), MacDonald tells
him that the branch didn't just BREAK... it was CUT. This evidence is
used against Aldo at the crucial moment, when Virgil remarks, "Ape
has never killed ape... let alone an ape child. The branch did not
break... it was cut -- by a sword. Aldo has killed an ape child."

Then there's the TV series.

In "THE SURGEON" Galen and Burke commit a burglary: posing as medical
personnel called to Zaius' home (where Zaius has supposedly suffered
a heart attack), they get inside... Burke jimmies open Zaius' locked
bookshelf-cabinet to get the surgery book written by Dr. Mather...
and they steal the statue of an orangutan named 'Doswa' (the name
given by Effinger in his novelization), pretending that it is Zaius.

When Urko is called to Zaius' home to investigate this matter, he
eventually gets Zaius to tell him what KIND of book had been
stolen... and when he discovers it was a book on SURGERY, he knows
enough to go to the hospital.

Not too shabby detective work on the part of Urko. As the Chief of
Security, he evidently is the "top cop" in Central City. He's not
stupid, either. Remember in "THE TRAP" when he finds the artifacts in
the Miller home... "The one called Virdon... he would want to
investigate this," he says.

A fine deduction, which proves (of course) to be correct.

Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> Cool and do you think you could get a link to the full painting for
> the ones you use in the future as well?

Been playing around with this image hosting thing so I should be able to do this my-self  John (once I know which painting Neil uses)

Saves Neil another job

Grahm.

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*** In "BATTLE" MacDonald did some detective work at the crime scene
where Cornelius had suffered his mortal injuries. Remember when he
waves his hand over the embers of the fire? That tells him how long
ago those embers have been smoldering (i.e. since the time of
the "incident") -- meaning that Cornelius wasn't alone when he fell.

Then he yanks down the branch off of which the young chimp fell...
and he notices the chop-marks in it -- obviously made from a cutting
implement. When Virgil laments, "How could a benevolent God allow a
branch from one of His trees to break..." (etc etc), MacDonald tells
him that the branch didn't just BREAK... it was CUT. This evidence is
used against Aldo at the crucial moment, when Virgil remarks, "Ape
has never killed ape... let alone an ape child. The branch did not
break... it was cut -- by a sword. Aldo has killed an ape child."

Then there's the TV series.

In "THE SURGEON" Galen and Burke commit a burglary: posing as medical
personnel called to Zaius' home (where Zaius has supposedly suffered
a heart attack), they get inside... Burke jimmies open Zaius' locked
bookshelf-cabinet to get the surgery book written by Dr. Mather...
and they steal the statue of an orangutan named 'Doswa' (the name
given by Effinger in his novelization) , pretending that it is Zaius.

When Urko is called to Zaius' home to investigate this matter, he
eventually gets Zaius to tell him what KIND of book had been
stolen... and when he discovers it was a book on SURGERY, he knows
enough to go to the hospital.

Not too shabby detective work on the part of Urko. As the Chief of
Security, he evidently is the "top cop" in Central City. He's not
stupid, either. Remember in "THE TRAP" when he finds the artifacts in
the Miller home... "The one called Virdon... he would want to
investigate this," he says.

A fine deduction, which proves (of course) to be correct.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Saturday, 27 January 2007 4:23 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comics.

The board is cut, some scribbles doubling up as preparatory drawings, created some free time to start putting "brush to canvas" on sunday.

All being well should take 2 or 3 weeks (The drying time of oils means I lose time between layers)

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Thanks alot for sharing your work, Graham. Its really great to see
these characters I know and love used in such a (for lack of a better
description) serious artistic way. Not that Neil, (or even I for that
matter)don't take our art serious. But your paintings just seem more
in line with pieces of real art as opposed to the pop culture APES
art usually is associated with. Very unusual.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> >
> > Cool and do you think you could get a link to the full painting
for
> > the ones you use in the future as well? I think the Urko is my
> > favorite Graham painting at the moment. Great to see those
characters
> > used in such an uncharacteristic way.
> >
> >
> Now I've joined the 21st century with this image hosting thing I
should
> be able to do this John.(Once I know which pic Neil uses)
>
> Saves Neil a job...
>
> Best wishes Graham.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Dario <darios@...> wrote:

>
> Thanks for the homepage logo/bookmark Graham.
>
> Actually with the tons of POTA pics I have, I've always wanted to

make

> POTA bookmarks since I'm an avid reader and always keep bookmarks

handy.

> Quite easy to do with any art and photo editing tools to jazz them up
> and blend/crop/recolour/scale/texture etc. But in the end I need one

of

> those damned plastic lamination machines and I don't have one or have
> access to one. Arrgh!
>
> Dario
>
>

Yeah you can never have too many bookmarks Dario !!!
I always wanted them as a kid so...
Originally I was going for a set of 4 but this petered out (The Dr
Galen X-mas card was going to be the second) I don't know whether I
should say this (Too late now ) but Scrolls was thinking about using it
as a "free gift" for one of their upcoming issues.
The composition was a bit awkward,long and thin but I think it works ok.
Best, Graham.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Saturday, 27 January 2007 7:05 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

 But your paintings just seem more
in line with pieces of real art as opposed to the pop culture APES
art usually is associated with. Very unusual.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 25 January 2007 11:56 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

Neil,

 

Can you tell us when you do?

 

I very rarely visit the home page....

 

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excellent work Graham!! Is that a gorilla from the TV
cards cleverly relocated to the catherdral?

TIm


--- Graham Hill <shop@...> wrote:

>
> I see Neils put up a new home page picture so, as
> requested, here's a
> link to the full painting.
>
>

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/GorillainCathedralc\

> olour.jpg
>

<http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/GorillainCathedral\

> colour.jpg>
>
> Best wishes Graham.
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> excellent work Graham!! Is that a gorilla from the TV
> cards cleverly relocated to the catherdral?
>
> TIm
>
>
Pretty much Tim, tweaked abit, You can probably tell I was more interested in painting the back ground than the gorilla so I just needed some quick reference . 

Best Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks alot for sharing your work, Graham. Its really great to see
> these characters I know and love used in such a (for lack of a better
> description) serious artistic way. Not that Neil, (or even I for that
> matter)don't take our art serious. But your paintings just seem more
> in line with pieces of real art as opposed to the pop culture APES
> art usually is associated with. Very unusual.
>
>
Glad you like them John, I do come from a fine art back ground,abstract and semi-abstract, so it's probably that you've pick up on.

With the ape pics I do have to be careful in the sense that the things I find interesting might not be what a POTA fan does if you see what I mean.

With this home page pic you can probably tell that I knocked out the gorilla pretty quickly because the thing that interested me and the bit I worked on , was the background.

I'm trying to pay more attention to the figure work as with most of my pictures the colour sort of pulls things together, the problem being when / if  the pics are printed this usually throws the colours out of wack  and highlights the dodgy figure drawing, the Urko Scrolls cover suffered a bit from this.

So more time  on drawing and the underpainting but still trying to keep it quite loose and lively

Best Graham.

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Very good point John. I hadn't really thought about that. It is
> unusual to see POTA images as 'serious art' when you think about it.
> Maybe that's why some of those Marvel magazine painted covers are so
> well loved?
>
> Neil
>
>
I think of those covers as the natural successors to the old pulp magazine covers ,Doc Savage etc.

Most of the painters of them, in the 30's and 40's, came from a fine art back ground, looking for work in the depression. I'm thinking of people like Norm' saunders and John Walter Scott who had really loose gutsy styles that got more so under the deadline pressure.

They brought a lot of "high art" teqniques to low art, at a time when the subject matter ("Spicy Detective stories")  was seen as "trash"

Best Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Dario <darios@...> wrote:

>
> Nice one Graham. Curious. How big are the original paintings and how
> long does it take to paint one? Or all they all different?
>
> Dario
>

Hi Dario,
The originals do vary but this one was about 33 cm by 50 odd cm (It's
somewhere in the corner of the studio, which my partner has started to
call the "Forbidden Zone" because of the mess, I claim it's just a
working studio !!! )
I'd paint bigger but I've got enough problem with the scanner as it
is !!!
Again each one takes differant times to paint but 20 painting hours
would be round about.
Best,Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- Just a thought, have you ever used or considered using acrylics
> Graham?
>
> Neil
>
>

Yeah, tried a few times but never been keen, just like the "depth" of
oils.
The funny thing is I did paint quite abit with water colours when I was
a student so I'm used to building up layers there, just never came too
terms with acrylics...Plastic you see, far too modern...
Best, Graham.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

>
> This is awesome!
>
>
>
> Graham - this reminds me of a TV Show trading card - is that correct?
>
>

Yep, used the card for the gorilla,with a bit of tweaking for the
position of the head and shoulders (some change on the legs because of
the reflected light)
As I said to John my real interest in the picture was the back ground
so I bashed out the figure far to quickly and sort of got to the point
where I should have made changes but it was all a bit too late :)
Really not happy with the face, I like the background though !!
Best, Graham.

Yeah, I paint in a very cartoon / pop culture way so I have come to
love watercolors. It cuts down the time immensely. I think that is
another reason why I am so impressed with your painting and style,
because it differs from mine so much.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > -- Just a thought, have you ever used or considered using acrylics
> > Graham?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> Yeah, tried a few times but never been keen, just like the "depth" of
> oils.
> The funny thing is I did paint quite abit with water colours when I
was
> a student so I'm used to building up layers there, just never came
too
> terms with acrylics...Plastic you see, far too modern...
> Best, Graham.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> Graham - would you ever be interested in doing something with Neil where one
> of you does pencils and the other does ink? Or paint? Or whatever? :-)
>
>
>
You know Michael, it's funny you should mention that...

I had thought about printing one of Neil's pages very lightly on to board and just painting  over it like I would my own underpaintings as an experiment, I've never work on other peoples stuff,so I don't know if it would work...

I don't know how well you're up with modern comics but there's an artist called Alex Ross who does painted work ,at the moment he's doing the exact same thing, painting over some one elses pencils to produce work quicker, (He had been doing one 48 page book a year, by himself  but felt this meant he was out of sight in a comercial sense for far too long .)

The pair are managing a 24 page bi-monthly comic.

So it's a possibility (Wouldn't have to worry about the figure work )

Best,Graham.

I believe Alex Ross still uses live models for his paintings also. I
saw a tour of his studio on (I believe) one of the special features
of one of the Justice League box sets. Really impressive.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Graham - would you ever be interested in doing something with Neil
> where one
> > of you does pencils and the other does ink? Or paint? Or
whatever? :-)
> >
> >
> >
> You know Michael, it's funny you should mention that...
>
> I had thought about printing one of Neil's pages very lightly on to
> board and just painting over it like I would my own underpaintings
as
> an experiment, I've never work on other peoples stuff,so I don't
know if
> it would work...
>
> I don't know how well you're up with modern comics but there's an
artist
> called Alex Ross who does painted work ,at the moment he's doing the
> exact same thing, painting over some one elses pencils to produce
work
> quicker, (He had been doing one 48 page book a year, by himself but
> felt this meant he was out of sight in a comercial sense for far too
> long .)
>
> The pair are managing a 24 page bi-monthly comic.
>
> So it's a possibility (Wouldn't have to worry about the figure work
[:)]
> )
>
> Best,Graham.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

>
> Yeah, I paint in a very cartoon / pop culture way so I have come to
> love watercolors. It cuts down the time immensely. I think that is
> another reason why I am so impressed with your painting and style,
> because it differs from mine so much.
>
>

You'll have to put some pictures up John I'd love to see them.
It's funny when it comes to comics,I love people like Bruce Timm, Daryn
Cooke, all these cartoony (Never like to use that word but you know
what I mean) artists yet when it comes to my own work my natural
instincts go almost in the opposite direction.
There's a graphic novel out called "Rocketo" by a guy who's worked in
animation (Forgotten his name for the minute)it's got some really nice
water colours at the back of the book, to be as simple and economical
as them sigh...
Best wishes Graham.

I've always wanted to try Ralph Bakshi's method of painting over an
actual photo. Like he would do with a clear plastic animation cell.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Graham - would you ever be interested in doing something with Neil
> where one
> > of you does pencils and the other does ink? Or paint? Or
whatever? :-)
> >
> >
> >
> You know Michael, it's funny you should mention that...
>
> I had thought about printing one of Neil's pages very lightly on to
> board and just painting over it like I would my own underpaintings
as
> an experiment, I've never work on other peoples stuff,so I don't
know if
> it would work...
>
> I don't know how well you're up with modern comics but there's an
artist
> called Alex Ross who does painted work ,at the moment he's doing the
> exact same thing, painting over some one elses pencils to produce
work
> quicker, (He had been doing one 48 page book a year, by himself but
> felt this meant he was out of sight in a comercial sense for far too
> long .)
>
> The pair are managing a 24 page bi-monthly comic.
>
> So it's a possibility (Wouldn't have to worry about the figure work
[:)]
> )
>
> Best,Graham.
>

I have a pencil for an idea of a more dark and violent ape concept in
the art folder. I haven't done much APES paintings because I feel
they need to look the way I remember them and I've never been able to
be comfortable with the way they turn out for me. Neil's ruined any
ideas of pursuing the apes as an art outlet. ;)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I paint in a very cartoon / pop culture way so I have come
to
> > love watercolors. It cuts down the time immensely. I think that
is
> > another reason why I am so impressed with your painting and
style,
> > because it differs from mine so much.
> >
> >
> You'll have to put some pictures up John I'd love to see them.
> It's funny when it comes to comics,I love people like Bruce Timm,
Daryn
> Cooke, all these cartoony (Never like to use that word but you know
> what I mean) artists yet when it comes to my own work my natural
> instincts go almost in the opposite direction.
> There's a graphic novel out called "Rocketo" by a guy who's worked
in
> animation (Forgotten his name for the minute)it's got some really
nice
> water colours at the back of the book, to be as simple and
economical
> as them sigh...
> Best wishes Graham.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

>
> I believe Alex Ross still uses live models for his paintings also. I
> saw a tour of his studio on (I believe) one of the special features
> of one of the Justice League box sets. Really impressive.
>
>

He certainly works at it !!!

Nearly all his paintings as you say John are based on live models, he
has a certain one for Superman, an other for Green Lantern...

I sort of relate to the process, he seems to have to go through certain
hoops, he does rough break downs, then it's into the photographic studio
to get all the reference... so a very long process but it does produce
good work ... just quite slow.

Bruce Timm from the Justice league / Batman animated show is always
giving him grief about what a strung out way he has of doing comics.

Best Graham.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

>
> I have a pencil for an idea of a more dark and violent ape concept in
> the art folder. I haven't done much APES paintings because I feel
> they need to look the way I remember them and I've never been able to
> be comfortable with the way they turn out for me. Neil's ruined any
> ideas of pursuing the apes as an art outlet. ;)
>
>
>

Just had a look John, that's great !!!
I'd like to see your colour work !!!
I'd also like to get a bit more bold with apes but as you say the child
hood memory of them sort of holds me back...
That's why I like the Marvel stuff because ... well most the artists
couldn't give a rats behind whether they kept on model or not :)
Best, Graham.
(on a different note these messages are turning up quick at the moment,
looks like yahoo might have sorted things out)

Here's something I had scanned in my computer already....

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e375/drzaiusdavis/ashleywatercolor.jpg

<img
src="http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e375/drzaiusdavis/ashleywatercolo
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 5:23 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

 when / if  the pics are printed this usually throws the colours out of wack  and highlights the dodgy figure drawing, the Urko Scrolls cover suffered a bit from this.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 6:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comics.

Yeah, tried a few times but never been keen, just like the "depth" of
oils.
The funny thing is I did paint quite abit with water colours when I was
a student so I'm used to building up layers there, just never came too
terms with acrylics...Plastic you see, far too modern...

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 8:51 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

Graham – would you ever be interested in doing something with Neil where one of you does pencils and the other does ink?  Or paint?  Or whatever?  J

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In a message dated 1/27/2007 6:34:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, shop@... writes:

> Yeah, I paint in a very cartoon / pop culture way so I have come to
> love watercolors. It cuts down the time immensely. I think that is
> another reason why I am so impressed with your painting and style,
> because it differs from mine so much.
>
>
You'll have to put some pictures up John I'd love to see them.
It's funny when it comes to comics,I love people like Bruce Timm, Daryn
Cooke, all these cartoony (Never like to use that word but you know
what I mean) artists yet when it comes to my own work my natural
instincts go almost in the opposite direction.
There's a graphic novel out called "Rocketo" by a guy who's worked in
animation (Forgotten his name for the minute)it's got some really nice
water colours at the back of the book, to be as simple and economical
as them sigh...
Best wishes Graham.

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Timm and Cooke's style have a way of making comics look ... well .. like comics should look. As for apes art work, the absolute best illustrator of simians in comics is the great Carmine Infantino. His work on the "Detective Chimp" series in the fifties is beautiful. And don't forget his Gorilla Grodd from The Flash.

 

That said, I would love to see Timm and/or Cooke's take on POTAs. Here is Mr. Timm's version of Sheena vs Kong.

Bill

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 9:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

You know Michael, it's funny you should mention that...

I had thought about printing one of Neil's pages very lightly on to board and just painting  over it like I would my own underpaintings as an experiment, I've never work on other peoples stuff,so I don't know if it would work...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 9:37 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comics.

 Neil's ruined any
ideas of pursuing the apes as an art outlet. ;)

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 9:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: Watercolor

Here's something I had scanned in my computer already....

http://i43.photobuc ket.com/albums/ e375/drzaiusdavi s/ashleywatercol or.jpg

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 9:53 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comics.

(on a different note these messages are turning up quick at the moment,
looks like yahoo might have sorted things out)

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Well, I suppose I could give it another try. ;)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- That's nice John. Now get painting those Apes!
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of John
> Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 9:58 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] OT: Watercolor
>
>
>
> Here's something I had scanned in my computer already....
>
> http://i43.photobuc
>
<http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e375/drzaiusdavis/ashleywatercolor.
jp
> g> ket.com/albums/e375/drzaiusdavis/ashleywatercolor.jpg
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
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> sgId=43041/stime=1169942397/nc1=3858789/nc2=3848627/nc3=3848443>
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of atragon1@...
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 10:15 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Comics.. Infantino, Cooke, Timm

That said, I would love to see Timm and/or Cooke's take on POTAs. Here is Mr. Timm's version of Sheena vs Kong.

Bill

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2007 1:26 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: {Spam?} [PotaDG] Yahoo problems

Neil

 

Take Graham off moderation!

 

See what happens when you cut Neil’s Grass doing a comic cover?!?!?  J

England has a big chance of winning the one day match against the Aussie B side today.......

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> Here's something I had scanned in my computer already....
>
That's great John, Reminds me a lot a guy called coop ( I think that's what he calls himself , does a lot of pop culture stuff)

Love the deep colours.

Best, Graham.

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- I do remember that picture Graham but is there any chance you could
> show us it again if it isn't too much trouble just to refresh our
> memories?
> I know I could go and dig out my copy of Scrolls but I seem to recall
> you saying that it was cropped a bit or something else was done to it

to

> fit the cover?
>
> Neil
>
>
> I think it's in the files section Neil but if not give me a day or so

to dig it out.
I've really "gone off" this painting since seeing it printed (No
offence meant at all to the Scoll guys, it was cool that they used
it !!! but I seem to remember that they printed from a hard copy I'd
sent them from my printer so it did change the colours and hence I've
started to pay more attention to the figures in the paintings since )
If I find it I might try and play with it some more.
Best, Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- But you do know that you don't have to build them up in layers if you
> don't want to? You can always use them straight from the tube without
> thinning them down. I understand where you are coming from though, I
> tend to stick to the mediums I'm used to these days.
>
> I tried oils once or twice but never really liked them myself (probably
> too impatient to have to wait for them to dry I think. I first 'learnt
> to paint' using watercolours and that is one of the reasons I now use
> acrylics, as I can use them as if they are watercolours.
>
> Besides, I'm too old and crusty to change now. ;-)
>
> Neil
>
>
Yeah, My partner uses acrylics all the time and her paintings have the "finnish" ,pretty much, of oils but as you say, I learnt to paint with oils as a youngster so...

Best Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Great, we'll have to arrange something then. Maybe even a fully
> painted POTA comic? How cool would that be!!
>
> Neil
>
>
 (Thinking out aloud)

Hm... I think I've just committed to work on a painted comic ?

Oh my god...

 drawing comics are like pulling teeth... over and over, I keep telling people  this !!! 

Sigh...

I'm off to the "forbidden Zone" to start painting...

(seriously though, it would be cool, back breaking labour but cool)

Graham.

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In a message dated 1/27/2007 1:54:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, shop@... writes:

I think of those covers as the natural successors to the old pulp magazine covers ,Doc Savage etc.

 

Doc Savage! The Man Of Bronze

The 30's answer to Buckaroo Banzai with

a little Brock Samson thrown in for good measure.

 

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I just founds this sentence.

All mammals except apes, monkeys, birds, and most humans, are color blind.

Which is strange since birds aren't mammals.  And does this include the platypus?

I think octopi see color as well.

 

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In a message dated 1/27/2007 5:34:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I've always wanted to try Ralph Bakshi's method of painting over an
actual photo. Like he would do with a clear plastic animation cell.

That's Rotoscoping isn't it? 

I think Linkletter's new film did a computer form of that.

 

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Yes!!! I'm a big fan of Coop. He's a friend from "Church"
Muhahahahahahaha!!!!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> >
> > Here's something I had scanned in my computer already....
> >
> That's great John, Reminds me a lot a guy called coop ( I think that's
> what he calls himself , does a lot of pop culture stuff)
>
> Love the deep colours.
>
> Best, Graham.
>

Here is a map that makes me itch my thighs.

Thanks, Neil.

Just a thought: I've pondered (every so often) the notion that the
two fields of literature -- Sci Fi and the Detective novel -- are
birds of the same feather, that they both came about due to similar
underpinnings. The best SF novels have good science in them, often
extrapolating on current trends in Science in order to imagine where
Science may PLAUSIBLY take us in the Future... and in order for
Science itself to be considered "good" it has to pass the ultimate
test: the Scientific Method. The use of pure Reason to make sense of
data gathered in a foolproof manner.

This is what makes the Detective Novel genre so similar: a Detective
is a kind of Scientist, using his or her REASONING abilities to make
sense of data -- the "clues" that lead to him/her solving the puzzle.

Think of Taylor in Cornelius' cave... using his knowledge of 20th
Century state-of-the-art technology to deduce the nature of the pre-
Simian Human culture which bequeathed its own civilization to the
ancestors of Zaius, et al. The Apes didn't seem to have any idea of
the possibility (let alone the actuality) of artificial heart valves,
false teeth, etc. [Although Wanda, in "THE INTERROGATION" did wear a
pair of glasses...]

Taylor, examining those artifacts, makes some reasonable deductions
about the humans who lived lo, those 2,000 or so years prior to the
events of "PLANET". "He was a weak, fragile animal... but he was here
before you... and he was BETTER than you are!"

Although Zaius claimed that he, too, could offer up an "alternate
explanation" for those artifacts which would be just as ingenious as
the one Taylor came up with -- and he sounds just like a religious
fanatic proponent of Creationism [so-called "Intelligent Design"]
trying to explain away the fossil record -- but such an explanation
would be (he says) CONJECTURE... not proof.

And then the nail-in-the-coffin makes its presence known: the Doll.
The TALKING human doll... the "clue" that solves the mystery. And
they all know it. That's why Zaius, ultimately, decides to have the
Cave (and all its artifacts) dynamited. Zaius is merely the latest
culprit in a twenty-century-long conspiracy to foist (and then
maintain) a fraud upon the simian citizens of Ape City. In other
words, a CRIME... and the detective (Taylor) solves it.

Too bad he didn't have the authority (or power) to bring the
perpetrator to justice. And Zaius, putting Cornelius under arrest
(forcibly silenced), ain't about to allow THAT to happen.

Yes... both the Detective (or Mystery) Novel and the SF Novel share
the trait whereby a protagonist uses REASON to get to the Truth.
Unlike a Fantasy novel (where "magic" can turn the truth into knots
by defying reality) -- and I include supernatural Horror novels in
this other genre -- true SF and Detective Novels rely on the
underlying reality of Nature. Sure, one can readily enjoy a Fantasy
novel, a Horror novel, a Sword-and-Sorcery story (I myself am a big
fan of the original Robert E. Howard stories of Conan/Kull/Bran Mak
Morn/etc) ... but those stories require a suspension of disbelief,
just as enjoyment of the "pagan" Classics (the Iliad & Odyssey, etc)
require the suspension of disbelief in the existence of the pantheon
of gods like Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, etc. But Detective novels and the
best hard-SF novels don't require such a suspension of disbelief:
they only "work" if the facts in them are reasonable.

Even though I consider the 1968 "PLANET OF THE APES" to be
predominantly a SATIRE, it is satire done within an SF framework, and
that scene in the Cave is the best example of that. Later entries in
the POTA saga -- especially the TV series -- did even more to set it
in a specifically SF framework. When Virdon and Burke re-introduce
Scientific and Technological ways to improve the living conditions of
the humans and apes they meet in their journeys, that goes to the
very heart of the matter.

Not to mention the fact that they expose fraud -- 31st Century
debunkers similar to James Randi and Penn & Teller in our times --
in "THE LIBERATOR", making use of their scientific knowledge. They
also help to correct mistaken beliefs (in "THE CURE", "THE GOOD
SEEDS", in almost every episode, come to think about it!).

Science -- the Scientific Method -- trumps Superstition and
Ignorance, every time. That's what makes the Astronauts such a danger
to the Zaiuses and Urkos of the planet of the apes. The top eschelon
of Simian Civilization relies on Superstition and Ignorance to keep
not only the Humans in their place... but to keep the masses of Apes
from overthrowing their leadership in favor of a better, more
equitable one. To paraphrase Urko: "THERE is the danger!"

Patrick

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2007 7:03 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comics.

 Hi Michael, I take it the cover has to be in the same proportions as a modern comic ?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of thaderulestheplanet
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Stupid map

Here is a map that makes me itch my thighs.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 8:28 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

In a message dated 1/27/2007 1:54:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, shop@amgrafcomics. co.uk writes:

I think of those covers as the natural successors to the old pulp magazine covers ,Doc Savage etc.

 

Doc Savage! The Man Of Bronze

The 30's answer to Buckaroo Banzai with

a little Brock Samson thrown in for good measure.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 8:47 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

That's Rotoscoping isn't it? 

I think Linkletter's new film did a computer form of that.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 7:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

 (Thinking out aloud)

Hm... I think I've just committed to work on a painted comic ?

Oh my god...

 drawing comics are like pulling teeth... over and over, I keep telling people  this !!! 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 6:47 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

> I think it's in the files section Neil but if not give me a day or so
to dig it out.
I've really "gone off" this painting since seeing it printed (No
offence meant at all to the Scoll guys, it was cool that they used
it !!! but I seem to remember that they printed from a hard copy I'd
sent them from my printer so it did change the colours and hence I've
started to pay more attention to the figures in the paintings since )

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Monday, 29 January 2007 8:07 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Stupid map

-- Excuse me but... what are you on about here?!?!

 

Neil

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of thaderulestheplanet
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Stupid map

Here is a map that makes me itch my thighs.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- Thanks Graham it is indeed in the files section still:
>

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4By9RcdQF7Dr8R76RGC5J49_pTZYVdmG1qIRLf9ciyF

> OyB7IMELk5GnJekHMWLFdUEbIjA5DQr0KNg2Z6tkW/Members%27%20Art%

20gallery/ape

> s%20920.jpg
>
> I think you are being a little harsh on yourself here as well, I quite
> like it but then we are our own worst critics us 'artistic' types

aren't

> we? ;-)
>


> Neil

Hi Neil,
Just had a look... (the originals stuck in the corner of the studio
some where)
Not harsh enough I think !!!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" ntfoster@ wrote:
> >
> > -- Thanks Graham it is indeed in the files section still:
> >
> http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4By9RcdQF7Dr8R76RGC5J49_pTZYVdmG1qIRLf9ciyF
> > OyB7IMELk5GnJekHMWLFdUEbIjA5DQr0KNg2Z6tkW/Members%27%20Art%
> 20gallery/ape
> > s%20920.jpg
> >
> > I think you are being a little harsh on yourself here as well, I quite
> > like it but then we are our own worst critics us 'artistic' types
> aren't
> > we? ;-)
> >
>
>
> > Neil
> Hi Neil,
> Just had a look... (the originals stuck in the corner of the studio
> some where)
> Not harsh enough I think !!!
>

Oh and another thing,  the fact it was painted very small, less than A4 didn't help ...

Best ,Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, atragon1@... wrote:
>
>
> Timm and Cooke's style have a way of making comics look ... well .. like
> comics should look. As for apes art work, the absolute best illustrator of
> simians in comics is the great Carmine Infantino. His work on the "Detective
> Chimp" series in the fifties is beautiful.

 

DC should have always let Carmine ink his own work, that lovely impressionistic line of his... damn their "commercial sense"

Beautiful is the right word !!!

Best wishes Graham.

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In a message dated 1/28/2007 6:04:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, shop@... writes:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, atragon1@... wrote:
>
>
> Timm and Cooke's style have a way of making comics look ... well .. like
> comics should look. As for apes art work, the absolute best illustrator of
> simians in comics is the great Carmine Infantino. His work on the "Detective
> Chimp" series in the fifties is beautiful.

 

DC should have always let Carmine ink his own work, that lovely impressionistic line of his... damn their "commercial sense"

Beautiful is the right word !!!

Best wishes Graham.

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Here is a sampling of the great Infantino at his best - VIVA Bobo, the Detective Chimp!

Bill

 

 

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Well I have discussed this with THADERULES and he was referring to a
map that Glen has posted on the POTA group.

Frankly, I think the map is pretty darned cool.

If anyone wishes to post it you will see what I mean - a lot of
thought and effort went into it and I can't imagine why someone would
want to pizzle this!

Please be more thoughtful people.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Or maybe I should have said what are you on?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Neil T Foster
> Sent: Monday, 29 January 2007 8:07 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Stupid map
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Excuse me but... what are you on about here?!?!
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of thaderulestheplanet
> Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 11:08 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Stupid map
>
>
>
> Here is a map that makes me itch my thighs.
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=43066/stime=1170022418/nc1=3848602/nc2=3858788/nc3=4299902>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Monday, 29 January 2007 9:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Stupid thade!

Well I have discussed this with THADERULES and he was referring to a
map that Glen has posted on the POTA group.

Frankly, I think the map is pretty darned cool.

If anyone wishes to post it you will see what I mean -

 

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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Members' Art gallery/Caesar Christ watercolor.jpg
Uploaded by : drzaiusdavis <DrZaiusDavis@...>
Description : Caesar Christ Watercolor

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/Caesar%20Christ%20watercolor.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

drzaiusdavis <DrZaiusDavis@...>

Well, you guys asked for it. I have this image tattooed on my forearm.
Its unfinished but I'll post pics when the tattoo is done also. I have
Chuck Heston as the Devil right next to "Caesar Christ" on my left arm.
Muhahahahahahaha!!!!

<img src="http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e375/drzaiusdavis/Ape%
20CULT/CeasarChristwatercolor.jpg">

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Monday, 29 January 2007 1:37 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Caesar Christ Watercolor painting

Well, you guys asked for it. I have this image tattooed on my forearm.
Its unfinished but I'll post pics when the tattoo is done also. I have
Chuck Heston as the Devil right next to "Caesar Christ" on my left arm.
Muhahahahahahaha! !!!

http://i43.photobuc ket.com/albums/ e375/drzaiusdavi s/Ape%
20CULT/CeasarChrist watercolor. jpg

.

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