Cougar, there is a difference between the ability to feel PAIN and the ability to THINK. When PETA (or whoever) equates a Rat and a Pig with a Boy, they're (probably) talking about the PAIN such animals suffer being comparable. If they are talking about the capacity to THINK (rationally, presumably), then they are not in their "right minds" as I said. Pain is caused by the activation of neurons in the dermis, is it not? And rats and pigs have such pain-receptor nerves, do they not? Therefore, they FEEL PAIN whenever labs perform tests on them that they are not allowed to do on HUMAN test subjects.   Remember when the Chairman of the Presidential Commission refers to Zira's "atrocities"... and then compares them to what Humans today (i.e. in 1973) were doing to "beasts"... and, in Zira's world, MAN IS CONSIDERED NOTHING BUT A BEAST. "Beware the BEAST Man..."   Groups like PETA want animals to be treated ETHICALLY -- the "E" in PETA. They don't believe [or, I hope they don't!] that animals like Rats and Pigs can actually THINK on the same level as a Human Being. It is their ability to feel PAIN that makes them sympathetic, and worthy of ethical treatment, and not of the cruel treatment that they often suffer.   Patrick --- On Tue, 8/26/08, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...> wrote: From: mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: CONQUEST stuff To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 26, 2008, 7:39 PM In a message dated 8/26/08 7:32:34 PM Central Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilto n@... writes: Your comparison to Clydesdales and farm animals is, quite frankly, disingenuous. Nobody in their right mind believes that horses, cows, (etc) are cognitively comparable to a human being. *** Oh really now? Then how come there's one group (actually PETA I believe) that has a saying that goes something like "A rat is a pig is a boy" meaning to them EVERYTHING is "equal" ... It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.

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*** Any idea if this film is on DVD anywhere, or will I have to search out the VHS of it? ***

 

 

 

In a message dated 8/26/08 7:48:05 PM Central Daylight Time, atragon1@... writes:

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In a message dated 8/26/08 9:09:02 PM Central Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

Believe me, it would be much easier if Mandemus hadn't said that line of dialogue! It would be easier to place BATTLE about 12 years or so after CONQUEST [ i.e. in 2003 or 2004], having Mendez's line about "twelve years of peace" refer to the 12 years following a Nuke War that almost immediately occurred after the events of CONQUEST.

 

*** Yes, but exactly what gives you the indication that the "twelve years of peace" are almost "immediately" after the events of CONQUEST... There could have been the nuclear war, etc., and then between that event and the events of BATTLE, who knows how many other skirmishes occurred between the (mutant) humans and the apes?

 

I mean the let's go by your scenario and say the war was in 2004.. Does that automatically place BATTLE in 2016? No... I mean there could have been years in-between the events where they were battling over territory, food, etc., etc., and then they may have decided to come to some sort of truce, both sides being tired of the battling... Plus, Lisa has that line when she tells Caesar "You were trespassing on their territory" so during their "peace talks," they may have agreed that the humans could "have" the city...(And yes, I know Caesar says he didn't know was inhabited so he may have thought the mutants were dead, having lived in an "uninhabitable"city, who knows... I am just making that up after all.) ***

 

But Mandemus' line makes it mandatory to place BATTLE some 27 years after CONQUEST. Because that dialogue is in the film, it's canon as far as I'm concerned. You'll notice that David Gerrold, in his novelization of BATTLE, refers to the founding of Ape City "nine years" before the events of the film [Chapter One, page 12 of the paperback]. Gerrold also has Mendez telling Kolp: "If we shoot them... we break years of peace." In the film, Mendez refers to "TWELVE YEARS of peace." Gerrold has Mandemus say, "Caesar, I must ask a favor. This armory has been my home for many, many years." In the film, Mandemus says "for TWENTY-SEVEN YEARS."

*** And thank God for Gerrold to have the right idea to drop those "numbers"... I wish ALL of them (the films and novels) had been more ambiguous as to years/dates... It'd make things a lot easier and, in some cases, much more palatable... ***

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All Chuck...all week!

They say that it's a brand new print of Beneath!

http://www.filmlinc.com/wrt/onsale/charltonheston/program.html"

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In a message dated 8/27/08 6:44:36 AM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

They say that it's a brand new print of Beneath!

http://www.filmlinc.com/wrt/onsale/charltonheston/program.html/font>

**** "Those lucky bloody bastards...***

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Hunter,

I recently submitted a planet of the apes parody t-shirt to a t-shirt contest on www.torsopants.com and I won. I don't receive commissions if they sell more or less of them. I created the shirt since I'm a big POTA fan and thought you might be the guy to share it with, who could let other fans know about it.

thanks

Gary

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In a message dated 8/27/08 4:31:13 PM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Is it just in Australia , or is the BABY MILO range actually being worn by one in two of the adolescents in other countries as well?

Neil and I noticed an upward trend about 8 months ago and it just keeps getting bigger! I bought both my girls a Baby Milo hoodie for $20 each…not sure if they are genuine or a cheap knock-off????

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In a message dated 8/27/08 4:31:13 PM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

Is it just in Australia , or is the BABY MILO range actually being worn by one in two of the adolescents in other countries as well?

Neil and I noticed an upward trend about 8 months ago and it just keeps getting bigger! I bought both my girls a Baby Milo hoodie for $20 each…not sure if they are genuine or a cheap knock-off??? ?

*** No sign of BAPE/Baby Milo stuff here at all... As far as I knew, it was only hot in Japan... Too bad it's really just a "cutesy" line that has no real APES connection.. Sure the creator might be a fan (not sure of that) but it's really pretty far off from anything "authentic" APES-wise. I think the dude just sort of borrowed the name and used a lil' chimp cause all the teddy bear and kitty designs were spoken for... ***

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In a message dated 8/27/08 5:50:46 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

The only problem I have with it all is that there are thousands of teenagers wearing them and I bet the majority, if not all, of them have no idea about the Planet of the Apes connection.

*** My sentiments exactly... I don't dig when people wear things like that and have no idea of where it really comes from... And I'm not just talking "teens" here, it's just about every age range...

Like you said, the majority of them have no idea of what APES is (and sadly, if any of them do, it's from the Burton film!!!!) Like here is the States, people like James Dean/Marilyn Monroe and a few others are now just an "image" on a poster or t-shirt or whatever, and you know damn well that the good percentage of the people hanging that poster on the wall, etc. have never seen either of their work(s)... They're just going for the image they think it portrays and they have no idea of what these people did, other than appearing on merchandise...

 

Probably the most popular use of 'Apes' in the world at this moment and yet the real Planet of the Apes doesn't actually benefit from it which is a bit sad really.

 

*** Again, you're correct... I mean BAPE is a partial play on the APES name, but I doubt anyone gets the connection... Hell, if I didn't know what it it, I probably wouldn't get it either... At least not at first... A gorilla on horseback says APES to me... Some smiley lil' monkey on a hoodie doesn't...

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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:00 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Bathing Ape

*** Again, you're correct... I mean BAPE is a partial play on the APES name, but I doubt anyone gets the connection.. . Hell, if I didn't know what it it, I probably wouldn't get it either... At least not at first... A gorilla on horseback says APES to me... Some smiley lil' monkey on a hoodie doesn't...

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In a message dated 8/27/08 6:05:57 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Its not just the Baby Milo designs that are all over the place here, many of the hoodies feature actual POTA images and sayings like 'ape shall never kill ape' etc.

*** That's interesting... I always thought it was just that lil' monkey... ***

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POTA 2001 did actually get a few people to watch the original you know!

And I must say if we could only use the BABY MILO fuss to our advantage we would have a truckload of teenagers ready for POTA!

Anyone know how to get in touch with Nico?

Michael

---- mlccougar@... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/27/08 5:50:46 PM Central Daylight Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> The only problem I have with it all is that there are thousands of teenagers
> wearing them and I bet the majority, if not all, of them have no idea about
> the Planet of the Apes connection.
>
> *** My sentiments exactly... I don't dig when people wear things like that
> and have no idea of where it really comes from... And I'm not just talking
> "teens" here, it's just about every age range...
> Like you said, the majority of them have no idea of what APES is (and sadly,
> if any of them do, it's from the Burton film!!!!) Like here is the States,
> people like James Dean/Marilyn Monroe and a few others are now just an "image"
> on a poster or t-shirt or whatever, and you know damn well that the good
> percentage of the people hanging that poster on the wall, etc. have never seen
> either of their work(s)... They're just going for the image they think it
> portrays and they have no idea of what these people did, other than appearing on
> merchandise...
>
>
> Probably the most popular use of 'Apes' in the world at this moment and yet
> the real Planet of the Apes doesn't actually benefit from it which is a bit
> sad really.
>
>
>
> *** Again, you're correct... I mean BAPE is a partial play on the APES name,
> but I doubt anyone gets the connection... Hell, if I didn't know what it it,
> I probably wouldn't get it either... At least not at first... A gorilla on
> horseback says APES to me... Some smiley lil' monkey on a hoodie doesn't...
>
>
>
> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel
> deal here.
> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

Yup. The one I got for my 10nyear old is orange and has very good pics of Ursus and Zaius on it, some glyphs etc. It's very cool.

---- Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> -- Its not just the Baby Milo designs that are all over the place here,
> many of the hoodies feature actual POTA images and sayings like 'ape
> shall never kill ape' etc.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of mlccougar@...
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:00 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Bathing Ape
>
>
>
>
>
> *** Again, you're correct... I mean BAPE is a partial play on the APES
> name, but I doubt anyone gets the connection... Hell, if I didn't know
> what it it, I probably wouldn't get it either... At least not at
> first... A gorilla on horseback says APES to me... Some smiley lil'
> monkey on a hoodie doesn't...
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=48738/stime=1219878035/nc1=5008814/nc2=3858793/nc3=3848627>
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Anchor Bay released it on DVD a few years ago (with some nice extras). If its not on Amazon, you can find one on eBay...

 

In a message dated 8/27/2008 2:31:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:

*** Any idea if this film is on DVD anywhere, or will I have to search out the VHS of it? ***

 

 

 

In a message dated 8/26/08 7:48:05 PM Central Daylight Time, atragon1@aol. com writes:

As an aside, you should check out the 1959 Hammer film: The Abominable Snowman. This film is not the typical Hammer fare, but offers some interesting views on humanity and its relationship with potential "near human" beings. Its a great film.

 

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As far as I knew, it was only hot in Japan...

 

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It does have a POTA connection.  The creator is an Apes fan.  He's a Japanese billionaire, who's also a rapper, and his house is basically a museum for his toy collection.  Unfortunately, most of the BAPE stuff you see for sale are cheap knockoffs.  The chances of getting real BAPE stuff are Slim & None and Slim just left town.  The coolest thing about his house, aside from the walls being glass cases full of the coolest toys on the planet was the fact that he could drive his super car into his house, and then back out the other side without turning or backing up.

 

 

 

In a message dated 08/27/08 16:31:44 Central Standard Time, mlccougar writes:

As far as I knew, it was only hot in Japan...

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sallywhitty@...
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Cc: mlccougar@...
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Bathing Ape

And I must say if we could only use the BABY MILO fuss to our advantage we would have a truckload of teenagers ready for POTA!

Anyone know how to get in touch with Nico?

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Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 11:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Bathing Ape

 

It does have a POTA connection.  The creator is an Apes fan.  He's a Japanese billionaire, who's also a rapper,

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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Bathing Ape

*** That's interesting. .. I always thought it was just that lil' monkey...

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In a message dated 8/27/08 9:36:32 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

 

I really don't know how he has got away with it over the years though, surely he must have some sort of okay from Fox?

 

There's the one design on there that resembles the VAN HALEN logo... I wonder if Eddie knows about that? I'm sure he'd be ready to sue...

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Neil

 

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This is Melissa's Hoodie.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 8/26/08 9:09:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
>
> Believe me, it would be much easier if Mandemus hadn't said that line of
> dialogue! It would be easier to place BATTLE about 12 years or so after CONQUEST
> [ i.e. in 2003 or 2004], having Mendez's line about "twelve years of peace"
> refer to the 12 years following a Nuke War that almost immediately occurred
> after the events of CONQUEST.
>
> *** Yes, but exactly what gives you the indication that the "twelve years of
> peace" are almost "immediately" after the events of CONQUEST...  [ Cougar, I said it WOULD be easier, ignoring the "12 years of peace" and "27 years" Armory bit, to re-chronologize the Post-CONQUEST timeline, having the Nuke War follow CONQUEST within the year (either late 1991 or early 1992) and then have there be period of about a decade or 12 years follow, with BATTLE taking place, say, in 2003 or 2004. It all depends on when the Nuke War takes place, and they never did exactly nail that date down in the Films or Episodes .] There could have been the nuclear war, etc., and then between that event and the events of BATTLE, who knows how many other skirmishes occurred between the (mutant) humans and the apes? [ see below]
>
> I mean the let's go by your scenario and say the war was in 2004.. Does that
> automatically place BATTLE in 2016? [No, no, no... my scenario has the Nuke War in 2006, and BATTLE in 2018. In my If-I-Could-Ignore-The-Onscreen-Numbers bit, I said it would be easier if the war -- the Nuke War -- happened SOON AFTER the events of CONQUEST, in 1991-1992, so that BATTLE would be in 2003-2004.] No... I mean there could have been years
> in-between the events where they were battling over territory, food, etc.,
> etc., and then they may have decided to come to some sort of truce, both sides
> being tired of the battling... Plus, Lisa has that line when she tells
> Caesar "You were trespassing on their territory" so during their "peace talks,"
> they may have agreed that the humans could "have" the city...(And yes, I know
> Caesar says he didn't know was inhabited so he may have thought the mutants
> were dead, having lived in an "uninhabitable"city, who knows... I am just making
> that up after all.) ***

I think it's evident that Caesar -- before his journey to the Forbidden City -- assumes that everyone who had been in that city perished when the Nuke(s) hit it. When MacDonald brings up the idea of those Archive tapes, Caesar says, "But the Bomb left nothing!" ... and MacDonald reminds him that the lower levels of the city were designed to withstand a nuclear overblast... which convinces Caesar that those Tapes COULD BE THERE STILL.

It isn't until they go to the Armory with Virgil -- to get the guns and the geiger counter -- that it is mentioned that the radioactive city MAY still be inhabited. I suspect that it was Virgil who suggested this to Caesar when he was told about this mission. Virgil would've been the one to suggest bringing along a geiger counter (being the only one of the three who knew how to "read" it and interpret the radioactivity level); and Virgil also would've been the one to tell Caesar that in spite of the fact that a nuke had hit that city, it could also be inhabited still -- provided that the survivors were in the lower levels of the city and could seal off those sections from the radioactive-contaminated upper levels. I doubt if Caesar would've even thought to bring along any weapons on that journey had it not been for Virgil's recommendation.

Because of Caesar's initial assumption that the Bomb left "nothing"... I think it's clear that there weren't any post-Nuke skirmishes between the city's humans and Caesar's apes.

Think about it: before the Bomb wiped out the city (or, at least, its surface and upper levels), there had to have been some warning that War was in progress. You know... air-raid sirens, those old Emergency Broadcast signals on TV... stuff like that. Some of the humans had to have fled from that city and made it beyond the dangerous perimeter of the Blastzone... since there are Humans in Caesar's "Ape City" in BATTLE. Humans who were kept in a subservient position because they had once been the "masters" -- i.e. they were from Breck's city and not from some area which didn't enslave Apes (that is, the Provinces). It was the humans from Breck's city who had electrically conditioned the Apes to cringe from the "No" command. Not the humans who lived in the Provinces. Yet Caesar had to make a law -- the "First Law" -- that humans may never again say "No" to an ape. Caesar would never have been justified in making that law if the humans he ruled over were innocent of the Ape Slavery sin. It was their guilt for having participated in the Slavery that tainted Breck's city that made Caesar's "First Law" justified... at least as it pertained to the Adult humans. One could argue that the children born since the Nuke War shouldn't be punished for the sins of their parents; it's obvious that Cornelius wouldn't have had Aldo's reaction to hearing a human say "No!" to him, since Cornelius never suffered the Conditioning tortures at APE MANAGEMENT.

>
>
> But Mandemus' line makes it mandatory to place BATTLE some 27 years after
> CONQUEST. Because that dialogue is in the film, it's canon as far as I'm
> concerned. You'll notice that David Gerrold, in his novelization of BATTLE, refers
> to the founding of Ape City "nine years" before the events of the film
> [Chapter One, page 12 of the paperback]. Gerrold also has Mendez telling Kolp: "If
> we shoot them... we break years of peace." In the film, Mendez refers to
> "TWELVE YEARS of peace." Gerrold has Mandemus say, "Caesar, I must ask a favor.
> This armory has been my home for many, many years." In the film, Mandemus says
> "for TWENTY-SEVEN YEARS."
>
> *** And thank God for Gerrold to have the right idea to drop those
> "numbers"... I wish ALL of them (the films and novels) had been more ambiguous as to > years/dates... It'd make things a lot easier and, in some cases, much more
> palatable... ***
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*** Well, Gerrold had the "right" to drop the numbers that were spoken onscreen (and, in certain cases, actually scripted), so as to give a new chronology. But his chronology seems too truncated to me. Gerrold has BATTLE following CONQUEST by a mere 9 years, presumably with the Nuke War having happened soon after the events of CONQUEST. This would make young Cornelius only about 8 years old, wouldn't it? I always thought of Cornelius as being about the same age as the human kid he was playing War with, somewhere it seemed to me to be the age of 12 or 13.

But that's all irrelevant, as far as I'm concerned. Whether some like it or not, actual chronological information is presented on-screen -- which makes it canon , as far as I'm concerned. The BATTLE prologue is said to be in "NORTH AMERICA" in the year 2670. It doesn't tell us the Month, or the Day of that Month, but it narrows it down to 1 out of 365 possible days in that future year!

And Mandemus specifically tells Caesar that the Armory has been his home for 27 years. The absolutely earliest time in which that Armory could've begun to be his home was when Caesar acquired the ARMS that make up the Armory, and that was in 1991, when CONQUEST takes place. Assuming that Caesar led his freed simian people out of Breck's city to that rather nearby forest location -- and we know it's nearby since it took only 3 days for the Trio to get there, investigate the Archives, and get back to Ape City for that round-trip -- then Caesar began to store those Arms in that Armory later in the year 1991.

Thus, adding 27 years to 1991 brings us to the year A.D. 2018, which is when BATTLE must take place. Since there has been 12 years of peace up until that date, that means that SOMETHING had to have happened 12 years earlier, in A.D. 2006, which involved armed conflict.

This may be interpretation on my part, but I think it is logical to conclude that the Nuke War is being referenced here by Mendez. Some 15 years after Caesar and his people escaped from Breck's city, human civilization was wiped out with nukes, flattening Breck's city and killing him in the bargain.

These chronological nuggets necessitate filling in the blanks in some kind of logical way. I don't think that Caesar would've held off impregnating Lisa, quite frankly. But since Cornelius in BATTLE is nowhere near 26 or 27 years old, that means that Lisa did not give birth to him anytime soon after CONQUEST. The most logical suggestion I can think of, then, is to suggest that Caesar and Lisa had other children before they had Cornelius... but those children all had to have died somehow, leaving Caesar with only one child -- his youngest (and now only) son, his heir.

Unlike Gerrold, I'm not gonna pretend that Mandemus didn't specify "27 years" of living in Caesar's Armory, and that Mendez didn't specify "12 years of peace" (etc). If it's on the screen, it's canon -- period.

Patrick

 

I took me a while to get around t it, but I finally found some time to
upload a few ape sketches I got from Gabrielle Morisette, Sam Agro and
Ty Templeton at the Paradise comic con.

You can check them out in the Paradise2008 album under Photos.

Enjoy.

Dario

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@...> wrote:
>
> I took me a while to get around t it, but I finally found some time to
> upload a few ape sketches I got from Gabrielle Morisette, Sam Agro and
> Ty Templeton at the Paradise comic con.
>
> You can check them out in the Paradise2008 album under Photos.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Dario
>

Thanks for this Dario, (I'd caught them over on your Facebook page)

They're all great but I think the Morisette is the stand out one.

Brilliant.

Best wishes, Graham.

That's too funny.

Well, we're going through that hurricane nonsense again, so I might
disappear from here for a while but I'll be back.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah....well, in our defense, Gabby's isn't a con sketch! It's a
page from
> the comic! Sam and I did ours in under five minutes, Gabby took an
hour or
> two for his.
>
> Nyah nyah.
>
> Ty the curiously defensive Guy.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Graham Hill <shop@...>wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I took me a while to get around t it, but I finally found some
time to
> > > upload a few ape sketches I got from Gabrielle Morisette, Sam
Agro and
> > > Ty Templeton at the Paradise comic con.
> > >
> > > You can check them out in the Paradise2008 album under Photos.
> > >
> > > Enjoy.
> > >
> > > Dario
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for this Dario, (I'd caught them over on your Facebook
page)
> >
> > They're all great but I think the Morisette is the stand out one.
> >
> > Brilliant.
> >
> > Best wishes, Graham.
> >
> >
>

Yes, Gabby's was a prelim (but detailed) sketch he had done in
preparation for a panel in Revolution. He actually had a few versions of
the same sketch. I guess he really wanted to get that panel just right.
I took me a while to decide which one to buy.

Dario

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From: Ty Templeton <tybunny@...>
Date: Sunday, August 31, 2008 11:23 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Paradiase ape sketches

> Yeah....well, in our defense, Gabby's isn't a con sketch! It's a
> page from
> the comic! Sam and I did ours in under five minutes, Gabby took an
> hour or
> two for his.
>
> Nyah nyah.
>
> Ty the curiously defensive Guy.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 7:31 AM, Graham Hill
> <shop@...>wrote:
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I took me a while to get around t it, but I finally found some
> time to
> > > upload a few ape sketches I got from Gabrielle Morisette, Sam
> Agro and
> > > Ty Templeton at the Paradise comic con.
> > >
> > > You can check them out in the Paradise2008 album under Photos.
> > >
> > > Enjoy.
> > >
> > > Dario
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for this Dario, (I'd caught them over on your Facebook page)
> >
> > They're all great but I think the Morisette is the stand out one.
> >
> > Brilliant.
> >
> > Best wishes, Graham.
> >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah....well, in our defense, Gabby's isn't a con sketch! It's a page from
> the comic! Sam and I did ours in under five minutes, Gabby took an hour or
> two for his.
>
> Nyah nyah.
>
> Ty the curiously defensive Guy.
>
>

Oh God ... I've put my great size nines in it again !!!

I'm always amazed at Comic guys who do sketches at conventions

The speed you all knock them out at ... I couldn't draw anything in 5 minutes ... well not so you could recognise it anyway !!!

Best, Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> That's too funny.
>
> Well, we're going through that hurricane nonsense again, so I might
> disappear from here for a while but I'll be back.
>

Look after yourself John,

Best,Graham

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
>
> By the way...I was being lighthearted and silly. Everyone's sketches are
> better than mine. I'm a writer and a cartoonist, but Sam and Gabby are very
> talented illustrators, there's a huge difference between cartooning and
> illustrating. 
> Ty
>
 Oh, I know you were Ty :)

That's a valid point though about the difference between cartoonist and illustrators.

In comics I suppose it breaks down to ...hm say an Alex Toth school on one hand and on the other lets say Neal Adams

(Just for the sake of the argument, I don't really think Adams is quite as "Photo realistic " as it's some times stated)

Or in comic strip terms Alex Raymond (or maybe a better example is Hal Foster) on one side, Milton Caniff on the other (!! ? )

Completely different set of skills and more importantly objectives.

Best,Graham.

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I was looking at the APE-MANIA websight and there was no mention of their involvement with the Blu-Ray DVD set (at least not that I seen anyway...)

 

As a matter of fact, the newest thing under their "current events" was from 2003... I know that some websights fall behind in being updated because things do get in the way, but something that they seem to have been quite a part of not being added to their websight is a little odd... I'd think that somebody over there would want to have that added to their credentials?

 

No knock against them, I'd just think they'd make their participation known by now...

 

Whitty, you seem to have contact with Brian, did he say anything to you about this?

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He emailed Helen privately, recently, to ask a question, then mentioned a lot of exciting things coming from FOX at the end of the year.

Helen and I quizzed him, but he could not say anything.

So I think it's the old privacy and secrecy policy....maybe he can't even admit they did the apes for the DVDs!

Michael

---- mlccougar@... wrote:

> I was looking at the APE-MANIA websight and there was no mention of their
> involvement with the Blu-Ray DVD set (at least not that I seen anyway...)
>
> As a matter of fact, the newest thing under their "current events" was from
> 2003... I know that some websights fall behind in being updated because things
> do get in the way, but something that they seem to have been quite a part of
> not being added to their websight is a little odd... I'd think that somebody
> over there would want to have that added to their credentials?
>
> No knock against them, I'd just think they'd make their participation known
> by now...
>
> Whitty, you seem to have contact with Brian, did he say anything to you
> about this?
>
>
>
> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel
> deal here.
> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

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Whitty,

 

Have you started your search for the elusive owner of BAPE yet? Any results and/or is anyone else from this group trying to contact him too?

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I have been trying to contact Nigo for years with no luck at all.

If anyone in the group has any ideas please let me know.

Michael

---- mlccougar@... wrote:

> Whitty,
>
> Have you started your search for the elusive owner of BAPE yet? Any results
> and/or is anyone else from this group trying to contact him too?
>
>
>
> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel
> deal here.
> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

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In a message dated 9/2/08 5:32:57 AM Central Daylight Time, pota1968@... writes:

Here's what see at Apemania.com

*** And where did you find it? I mean in what category?

 

If I didn't know any better, I'd say it almost looks like your computer wizardry at work...

 

In any case, whoever wrote that up needs to review actual names and spellings of names... Charleton Heston? J. Lee Cobb? At least Roddy's name was spelled right instead of the usual screw up of Roddy MacDowall or Roddy McDowell...

 

One thing that is a bit optimistic is at the bottom where it says "HD Exclusive Content" and then lists the few things... I'm only slightly optimistic that this means the bulk of the material will be released in the standard format, but I suppose it's possible it could be... I'm not holding my breath though... Most of those mentioned featurettes sound like recycled bits/ideas from BEHIND anyway...

Like "Impact of the Apes": You know that just has to be an extension of the end of BEHIND where it showed some of the collectibles and then that stupid SIMPSONS thing... You know this featurette has to be more of the same... ***

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In a message dated 9/2/08 12:35:09 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

So I think it's the old privacy and secrecy policy....maybe he can't even admit they did the apes for the DVDs!

*** Alex set the record straight for me... I guess I didn't look at the right page, but yes, it is mentioned on APE-MANIA's sight... "Privacy" as far as what the extras contents might be, but not a secret about their involvement... And say what you will about my being a skeptic, but I still think these extras sound like extensions of bits of the BEHIND documentary... ***

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In a message dated 9/2/08 12:35:09 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

He emailed Helen privately, recently, to ask a question, then mentioned a lot of exciting things coming from FOX at the end of the year.

Helen and I quizzed him, but he could not say anything.

*** BTW: I didn't think she was around anymore... At least not on this group... ***

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Speaking of screw-ups . . .

In the Fun Facts of the IMDB it says the original theatrical release had two moons that were taken out after Beneath was greenlighted.  I saw the original release.  There weren't any moons!  In fact theym mention there's always a cloud cover at night.  I'm going to challenge that.  Not sure about boats on a dock.  Anyone? Bueller?

 

 

In a message dated 9/2/2008 6:47:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:

In any case, whoever wrote that up needs to review actual names and spellings of names... Charleton Heston? J. Lee Cobb? At least Roddy's name was spelled right instead of the usual screw up of Roddy MacDowall or Roddy McDowell...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] No BLU-RAY mention by APE-MANIA

Not sure about boats on a dock.  Anyone? Bueller?

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In a message dated 9/2/08 3:36:35 PM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

What is there NOT to celebrate????

**** The fact that they didn't bother to get real commentaries from some of the surviving cast/crew... I'm talking like they're sitting there watching the film and talking about it as it's playing, NOT those little audio snippets they threw in on the 35th Anniversary DVD... ***

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In a message dated 9/2/08 3:48:10 PM Central Daylight Time, TZer0@... writes:

In the Fun Facts of the IMDB it says the original theatrical release had two moons that were taken out after Beneath was greenlighted.  I saw the original release.  There weren't any moons!  In fact they mention there's always a cloud cover at night.  I'm going to challenge that.

*** And your challenge is correct... That is one of the biggest piles of sh*t I've heard. And one other thing: Why would they remove them anyway? It'd make no sense because there's not even a mention of the moon in BENEATH, so supposedly removing two moons from PLANET would be pointless becuase there's nothing that would contradict either film in that case... What they should have removed is Dehn's "3955" crap... That should have been fixed before shooting even started...

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In a message dated 9/2/08 2:27:48 PM Central Daylight Time, pota1968@... writes:

From the looks of the Blu-ray description I completely agree with you.

**** What's your take on my earlier post where it says that the extras are included in the Blu-Ray/HD set? (Where I said it "sort of read" like maybe the other stuff will be released seperately, and the extras will not be included. And I'm sure I am wrong about that, it's just one way of reading what was in their description...)

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:41 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] No BLU-RAY mention by APE-MANIA

 

*** And your challenge is correct... That is one of the biggest piles of sh*t I've heard. And one other thing: Why would they remove them anyway? It'd make no sense because there's not even a mention of the moon in BENEATH, so supposedly removing two moons from PLANET would be pointless becuase there's nothing that would contradict either film in that case... What they should have removed is Dehn's "3955" crap... That should have been fixed before shooting even started...

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Now there were extra moons on POTA2K1.

 

 

In a message dated 9/2/2008 4:44:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:

so supposedly removing two moons from PLANET would be pointless

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No they'er saying at Lake Powell

there's a marina with white boats.

It also says there's a ocean liner

steaming by as Chuck rails at the

Statue of Liberty.  Never saw that!

 

 

In a message dated 9/2/2008 4:50:04 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

 

 

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] No BLU-RAY mention by APE-MANIA

Not sure about boats on a dock.  Anyone? Bueller?

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Yeah.  Three or four. 

But to say they were on the original

and then removed, for some cockamamie reason?

That's nuts!

 

In a message dated 9/2/2008 6:16:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- There were 2 moons in the 2001 remake I think. Maybe the reviewer got mixed up?

 

Neil

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In a message dated 9/2/08 6:16:26 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- There were 2 moons in the 2001 remake I think. Maybe the reviewer got mixed up?

**** Now THAT I can see happening... But it's a pretty sad state when a reviewer doesn't know which entity they just watched... I mean I suppose someone could get things from the original films mixed up, but to (possibly) confuse a film from '68 with a film from '01 is just inexcusable... But that's the way things go in "young Hollywood" these days... ***

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In a message dated 9/2/08 7:57:21 PM Central Daylight Time, TZer0@... writes:

No they're saying at Lake Powell there's a marina with white boats.It also says there's a ocean liner steaming by as Chuck rails at the Statue of Liberty.  Never saw that!

*** Whoever wrote that needs to pull their finger outta their ear and put it back in their a** where it belongs... Next thing you know they'll be saying that Heston and crew really were in New York Harbor... ***

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Hey guys. Well, the powers back, had some debris to clean up out of the
yard, & my house is now an island surrounded by water but none got in
the house & all is okay. Things should be able to return to normal here
in the next few days.

I just challenged it as well. Hopefully, they'll change it.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
> Speaking of screw-ups . . .
> In the Fun Facts of the IMDB it says the original theatrical release
had two
> moons that were taken out after Beneath was greenlighted. I saw the
> original release. There weren't any moons! In fact theym mention
there's always a
> cloud cover at night. I'm going to challenge that. Not sure about
boats on
> a dock. Anyone? Bueller?
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/2/2008 6:47:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> mlccougar@... writes:
>
> In any case, whoever wrote that up needs to review actual names and
> spellings of names... Charleton Heston? J. Lee Cobb? At least
Roddy's name was
> spelled right instead of the usual screw up of Roddy MacDowall or
Roddy McDowell...
>
>
>
>
> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find
your travel
> deal here.
> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> Hey guys. Well, the powers back, had some debris to clean up out of the
> yard, & my house is now an island surrounded by water but none got in
> the house & all is okay. Things should be able to return to normal here
> in the next few days.
>

Good to hear no water got into your house John, hope everything gets back to normal for you soon.

Best wishes, Graham.

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What? & miss all the fun here in the swamps? I'm a live action Zartan.
Muhahahahahaha!!!!


So, where did the home page pic come from?




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Good to hear.
>
>
>
> Ever consider moving? :-)
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> John
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2008 11:20 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Powers back.
>
>
>
> Hey guys. Well, the powers back, had some debris to clean up out of

the

> yard, & my house is now an island surrounded by water but none got

in

> the house & all is okay. Things should be able to return to normal

here

> in the next few days.
>

Good question.......Neil?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> What? & miss all the fun here in the swamps? I'm a live action Zartan.
> Muhahahahahaha!!!!
>
>
> So, where did the home page pic come from?
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Good to hear.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ever consider moving? :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf Of
> > John
> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 September 2008 11:20 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Powers back.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey guys. Well, the powers back, had some debris to clean up out of
> the
> > yard, & my house is now an island surrounded by water but none got
> in
> > the house & all is okay. Things should be able to return to normal
> here
> > in the next few days.
> >
>

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As Mick Jones used to sing in The Clash . . .

Did You Stay Or Did You Go?

and, if so, would you go again?

 

 

In a message dated 9/3/2008 8:20:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

Hey guys. Well, the powers back, had some debris to clean up out of the
yard, & my house is now an island surrounded by water but none got in
the house & all is okay. Things should be able to return to normal here
in the next few days.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Powers back.

Good question.... ...Neil?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
>
> What? & miss all the fun here in the swamps? I'm a live action Zartan.
> Muhahahahahaha! !!!
>
>
> So, where did the home page pic come from?

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Stayed both during Katrina & this storm. I have too many animals to
try & run away & I would never leave them. This time around wasn't
bad at all. Power was out for days, not weeks. Still have standing
water around my house but none got into it. Hell, I live in a swamp.
it comes with the territory. Lots of debris to pick up but all & all,
I made out really well. Even returned to work today. ;(

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
> As Mick Jones used to sing in The Clash . . .
> Did You Stay Or Did You Go?
> and, if so, would you go again?
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/3/2008 8:20:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> DrZaiusDavis@... writes:
>
> Hey guys. Well, the powers back, had some debris to clean up out
of the
> yard, & my house is now an island surrounded by water but none got
in
> the house & all is okay. Things should be able to return to normal
here
> in the next few days.
>
>
>
>
> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find
your travel
> deal here.
> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)
>

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For everyone who's stoked about the upcoming APES Blu-Ray set, read this... It may  stop you from rushing out to buy a player as soon as you would have... At least if you were planning on Blu-Ray thinking it would be around "forever"...

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Blu-ray 'Has Five Years Left,' Says Samsung Exec

by Donald Melanson, posted Sep 4th 2008 at 3:43PM

While we can't say if it represents a general sentiment at Samsung or not, the company's UK director of consumer electronics, Andy Griffiths, sure went out on a bit of a limb in a recent interview with Pocket-lint, with him saying that Blu-ray has, to paraphrase David Bowie, only "five years left," and that he "certainly wouldn't give it ten." He did say, however, that he thought 2008 would be Blu-ray's year, adding that "it's going to be huge", and that Samsung is "heavily back-ordered at the moment."

As for Samsung's future after Blu-ray's supposed demise, Griffiths seems to think that OLED will be the next big thing, and he's pegging 2010 as a possible date for it to become mainstream and replace LCD. He didn't offer a prediction as to when it will die out though.

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Oldest gorilla in captivity dies in Dallas at 55

By LINDA STEWART BALL, Associated Press Writer 

DALLAS - The oldest gorilla in captivity, a 55-year-old female named Jenny, has died at the Dallas Zoo — her home for more than half a century, a spokesman said Friday.

Zoo officials decided to euthanize Jenny on Thursday night because of an inoperable tumor in her stomach. Jenny had stopped eating and drinking recently, and tests showed she was unlikely to recover, spokesman Sean Greene said.

Jenny's keepers described her as very sweet though a little bossy.

"If she doesn't want to go out on a certain day, she doesn't," Todd Bowsher, curator of the zoo's Wilds of Africa exhibit, said in May, when the zoo held a birthday bash to celebrate Jenny's longevity. "But she really likes people."

The International Species Information System, which maintains records on animals at 700 institutions around the world, confirmed earlier this year that Jenny was the oldest gorilla in its database.

Jenny was born in the wild and was acquired by the zoo in 1957. She gave birth in 1965 to a female named Vicki, and officials aren't sure why she didn't conceive again. Vicki was sent to a Canadian zoo at age 5.

At the time of Jenny's death she was one of five gorillas at the Dallas Zoo.

Gorillas in the wild normally live to age 30 or 35, but they can survive years longer in a zoo, with veterinary care and protection from predators. Still, of the roughly 360 gorillas in North American zoos, only four were over 50 as of this spring.

Just last month, another gorilla at the zoo, 43-year-old Hercules, died after undergoing a medical procedure for spinal disease.

In 2004, Dallas police shot and killed a 13-year-old gorilla named Jabari at the zoo after it jumped over a wall, bit three people and snatched up a toddler by his teeth. The enclosure was remodeled and the city paid a fine to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

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Title:		Return to the Planet of the Apes Premier
Date:		Saturday September 6, 2008
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http://blog.fantasticfest.com/2008/09/fantastic-fest-to-screen-original-uncut.html"

"For over 35 years this version of CONQUEST languished in the Fox vault, unseen by human (or ape) eyes, and now, the original, uncut version will be receiving its world premiere at this year's edition of Fantastic Fest, the largest genre film festival in the U.S., running from September 18 - 25, 2008 at the Alamo Drafthouse South Lamar in Austin, TX.

This one-time only screening will be free and open to the general public on Saturday, September 20, at 12pm. Following this, Fox Home Entertainment will make this version available exclusively in the PLANET OF THE APES 40 Year Evolution Blu-Ray Collection available in stores on November 4th. The Fantastic Fest CONQUEST screening will be in 1080p HD, making this the first public high def screening of any of the APES films, and will preceded by Fox DVD giveaways and previews. Come witness the birth of the PLANET OF THE APES like you've never seen before - before anyone else does!"

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In a message dated 9/6/08 2:15:57 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Neil – when's the next flight?

*** Well, if you're going, then I suppose I'll have to get someone to start "panhandling" online collecting money for me (and saying how I deserve a trip like that...) I've seen it before on this group, so why not...***

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In a message dated 9/6/08 3:49:11 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Mike – how much could it cost to fly there and back and get a cheap room?

*** More than it would cost for me to just buy a Blu-Ray player and the DVD set so I could watch CONQUEST at naseum in the living room... ***

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Hi, folks,

Does anyone happen to know the first date that "The Liberator" aired
on Sci-Fi Channel?

Thanks!
Rich

Hi, folks,

Does anyone happen to know the first date that "The Liberator" aired
on Sci-Fi Channel?

Thanks!
Rich

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In a message dated 9/6/08 8:13:51 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Can anyone here get along and tell us what we could expect?

**** I don't know how close LordT is to the event city, but I think being he's in TX and all, he'd be the most logical choice... ****

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In a message dated 9/6/08 2:06:33 PM Central Daylight Time, handleyr@... writes:

Does anyone happen to know the first date that "The Liberator" aired on Sci-Fi Channel?

*** I couldn't give you a date for this, other than knowing it would have aired on SCI-FI when they first went on the air (and that's what, 15 years ago give or take...) I'd say email or write SCI-FI, but I'm guessing they either couldn't tell you, or even if they knew, you'd probably get the typical "Thanks for watching The SCI-FI Channel" form letter... ***

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:

> *** I couldn't give you a date for this, other than
> knowing it would have aired on SCI-FI when they first
> went on the air (and that's what, 15 years ago give
> or take...)

Yep--early '90s. I've been unable to find a more specific date,
unfortunately.

> I'd say email or write SCI-FI, but I'm guessing they
> either couldn't tell you, or even if they knew, you'd
> probably get the typical "Thanks for watching The
> SCI-FI Channel" form letter...

Heh heh. If that at all. Given the ineptitude of the Sci-Fi Channel
management--or, should I say, the
Wrestling/B-Horror/Prematurely-Canceled-TV-Show Channel--in recent
years, I doubt they even know they RAN the Planet of the Apes TV
series at this point.

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On Sep 5, 2008, at 11:54:34 PM, "Tim \" <apefan23@...> wrote:

From:	"Tim \" <apefan23@...>
Subject:	[PotaDG] UNCUT ORIGINAL CONQUEST SCREENING IN TEXAS!!!
Date:	September 5, 2008 11:54:34 PM CDT
To:	POTA <pota@yahoogroups.com>, "POTA DG" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>

http://blog. fantasticfest. com/2008/ 09/fantastic- fest-to-screen- original- uncut.html"

"For over 35 years this version of CONQUEST languished in the Fox vault, unseen by human (or ape) eyes, and now, the original, uncut version will be receiving its world premiere at this year's edition of Fantastic Fest, the largest genre film festival in the U.S., running from September 18 - 25, 2008 at the Alamo Drafthouse South Lamar in Austin, TX.

This one-time only screening will be free and open to the general public on Saturday, September 20, at 12pm. Following this, Fox Home Entertainment will make this version available exclusively in the PLANET OF THE APES 40 Year Evolution Blu-Ray Collection available in stores on November 4th. The Fantastic Fest CONQUEST screening will be in 1080p HD, making this the first public high def screening of any of the APES films, and will preceded by Fox DVD giveaways and previews. Come witness the birth of the PLANET OF THE APES like you've never seen before - before anyone else does!"

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Hello,

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave B
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 11:33 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: ..Calling Dave Ballard...come in Dave....

The Chad Valley scans were sent to me by Mark Talbot Butler. I don't
know if it was Mark himself who was responsible for the scanning but
he did send them with the express wish that they be shared with as
much of APEDOM as possible.

With that in mind I think we'd all be delighted to see what you intend
to do with them.

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Whitty, you should take those images and turn them into a "rotating gallery" that can be played on a DVD player...

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/8/08 4:31:27 PM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Very nice Neil!

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 7:22 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Chad Valley strips 'remastered'

 

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http://movies. groups.yahoo. com/group/ PotaDG/files/ Chad%20Valley% 20slides/

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Chad Valley strips 'remastered'

Very nice Neil!

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This is something I never owned. Looking foward to seeing the entire
film strip "remastered." Thanks Neil.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
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> -- Thanks, it's not been exactly easy so far, here's a sample of the
> sort of thing I've had to 'fix':
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>
>
>
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> Every panel needs something doing to it so this could be a long term
> project!
>
> More to come soon.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:30 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Chad Valley strips 'remastered'
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Very nice Neil!
>
> .
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> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=48819/stime=1220909437/nc1=5008817/nc2=3858796/nc3=3848607>
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I did - but I sold it before I got to enjoy it too much! I actually thought there was a soundtrack too! MTB - can you verify? Actually, are you alive? I hear rumours but I can't authenticate...... :)

The stories are crap but hey - so were all the POTA stories in the day (well, POWER RECORDS, for example). It really is great to see these in full restored splendour!

AND....it's the TV Series!

Neil - when we have run the series maybe we can ask Hunter to host it and Kass/Mez will be able to enjoy/be embarrased by it? :)

Michael

---- John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

> This is something I never owned. Looking foward to seeing the entire
> film strip "remastered." Thanks Neil.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > -- Thanks, it's not been exactly easy so far, here's a sample of the
> > sort of thing I've had to 'fix':
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Every panel needs something doing to it so this could be a long term
> > project!
> >
> > More to come soon.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 7:30 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Chad Valley strips 'remastered'
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Very nice Neil!
> >
> > .
> >
> > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
> s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> > sgId=48819/stime=1220909437/nc1=5008817/nc2=3858796/nc3=3848607>
> >
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>

Neil and I were thinking maybe the guys at BROKEN SEA would like to
put a soundtrack to it and maybe we could do it as a slideshow?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
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>
> Whitty, you should take those images and turn them into
a "rotating gallery"
> that can be played on a DVD player...
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/8/08 4:31:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Very nice Neil!
>
>
>