Oh, Wikipedia certainly has its uses, Tarry, I agree. But it's the
bane of journalism and should never be used for such a purpose,
because there's just no way to know, without conducting further
research, if anything you find there is true or accurate--and if
that's the case, then it's easier (and probably more sensible) for a
person to look up their info elsewhere.

This bit about Central City is a perfect example--someone doing
research for an article might think Breck was the governor of Central
City because that's what they found on Wikipedia, and thus repeat that
in their work. That false idea would then become propagated as others
referenced that article down the line.

Now, just to be clear: I was only joking when I said Wikipedia is the
root of all evil--because I do think it's an amazing site in terms of
what it offers--but the information on that site has to be taken with
a grain of salt, as it is no more reliable than any mispronounced
utterances from George W. Bush.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
> I think the wikipedia system is run pretty good
> im sure there are problems and ive heard criticisms
> but i personally have been using it for years
> and think its the greatest site on the net
>

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In a message dated 9/22/08 4:28:36 PM Central Daylight Time, handleyr@... writes:

  Wikipedia is the route of all evil.  :)

I thought it was FOX for giving us a bunch of sh*t extras in the Blu-Ray set...

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In a message dated 9/22/08 5:53:47 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

I hear that Tom Rubalcava from the group was commissioned to do the cover of the upcoming Scrolls magazine.

 

Dave or John (or Tom), any chance of sharing it with the DG? I'm sure our members who choose to have nothing to do with any of the other Apes groups would appreciate the chance to see what it looks like.

*** I'd like to see it posted over here, as well as any other information regarding SCROLLS... ***

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:

> *** I'd like to see it posted over here, as well as any other

information regarding SCROLLS...

Tom's amazing art can be seen here...

http://www.drawingboard.org/viewtopic.php?t=65050

and here...

http://trubalcava.com/blog/2008/09/16/simian-scrolls-uk-apes-fanzine-cover/

We were really pleased with how the new cover turned out. Tom was one
of the nicest people to ever contribute to Simian Scrolls. It's when
you get introduced to someone like this that all the aggravation and
frustration that sometimes bogs you down when trying to put a fanzine
together just melts away and it becomes a pleasure.

I don't have much information for you right now. Scrolls 15 is
currently going through the final proof reading/correction stage and
will hopefully go off to the printers in the next few weeks.

Dave

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In a message dated 9/23/08 1:12:28 AM Central Daylight Time, smugster2000@... writes:

I don't have much information for you right now. Scrolls 15 is currently going through the final proof reading/correction stage and will hopefully go off to the printers in the next few weeks.

*** Cool cover... And, as always, I'll be looking fwd. to the new SCROLLS... ***

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Personally I stay because I like to read about POTA.

And this group has more "meat" in it than the "others".

They may post more, but there's less substance there.

 

In a message dated 9/22/2008 5:30:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

Can't say I blame him or anyone else for leaving though, I don't
really see why anyone would bother with this group anymore (apart from
those who use it to recruit our members and stuff for various projects.)

Neil

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-- For some reason neither link shows me any pictures. Any chance of
uploading a copy to the files?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@ wrote:
>
> > *** I'd like to see it posted over here, as well as any other
> information regarding SCROLLS...
>
> Tom's amazing art can be seen here...
>
> http://www.drawingboard.org/viewtopic.php?t=65050
>
> and here...
>
>
http://trubalcava.com/blog/2008/09/16/simian-scrolls-uk-apes-fanzine-cover/
>
> We were really pleased with how the new cover turned out. Tom was one
> of the nicest people to ever contribute to Simian Scrolls. It's when
> you get introduced to someone like this that all the aggravation and
> frustration that sometimes bogs you down when trying to put a fanzine
> together just melts away and it becomes a pleasure.
>
> I don't have much information for you right now. Scrolls 15 is
> currently going through the final proof reading/correction stage and
> will hopefully go off to the printers in the next few weeks.
>
> Dave
>

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__ Thanks but I still can't see it. I don't get emails from the group
anymore so that's why I was hoping someone would upload it to the
files section.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> Here you are sweets! X0x0x0
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> Neil
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 September 2008 7:25 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Simian Scrolls cover
>
>
>
> -- For some reason neither link shows me any pictures. Any chance of
> uploading a copy to the files?
>
> Neil
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,

"Dave B"

> <smugster2000@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> mlccougar@ wrote:
> >
> > > *** I'd like to see it posted over here, as well as any other
> > information regarding SCROLLS...
> >
> > Tom's amazing art can be seen here...
> >
> > http://www.drawingb

<http://www.drawingboard.org/viewtopic.php?t=65050>

> oard.org/viewtopic.php?t=65050
> >
> > and here...
> >
> >
> http://trubalcava.
>

<http://trubalcava.com/blog/2008/09/16/simian-scrolls-uk-apes-fanzine-cover/

> > com/blog/2008/09/16/simian-scrolls-uk-apes-fanzine-cover/
> >
> > We were really pleased with how the new cover turned out. Tom was one
> > of the nicest people to ever contribute to Simian Scrolls. It's when
> > you get introduced to someone like this that all the aggravation and
> > frustration that sometimes bogs you down when trying to put a fanzine
> > together just melts away and it becomes a pleasure.
> >
> > I don't have much information for you right now. Scrolls 15 is
> > currently going through the final proof reading/correction stage and
> > will hopefully go off to the printers in the next few weeks.
> >
> > Dave
> >
>

-- I wasn't trying to start one of those 'we're better than them'
things or any of that crap. I really don't care enough anymore, I was
just pointing out that for me the group is pretty meaningless these
days, Planet of the Apes really isn't that important (though fondly
remembered.) Peace all.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Personally I stay because I like to read about POTA.
> And this group has more "meat" in it than the "others".
> They may post more, but there's less substance there.

On the subject of Wikipedia, I've been adding a bit to the POTA Wiki
site 'Simian Scrolls' over the last few weeks:

http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

I don't know why, it hadn't been updated in 2 years, but I've been
filling in some of the blanks (missing entries for tv episodes, pages
for guest actors and characters). I've just been sketching out the
framework for these new pages and adding some photos, if anyone has
the time or inclination to flesh them out with episode synopses,
character biographies, trivia, that kind of thing, please do, I'd be
very grateful. Or to correct any mistakes.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, Wikipedia certainly has its uses, Tarry, I agree. But it's the
> bane of journalism and should never be used for such a purpose,
> because there's just no way to know, without conducting further
> research, if anything you find there is true or accurate--and if
> that's the case, then it's easier (and probably more sensible) for a
> person to look up their info elsewhere.
>
> This bit about Central City is a perfect example--someone doing
> research for an article might think Breck was the governor of
Central
> City because that's what they found on Wikipedia, and thus repeat
that
> in their work. That false idea would then become propagated as
others
> referenced that article down the line.
>
> Now, just to be clear: I was only joking when I said Wikipedia is
the
> root of all evil--because I do think it's an amazing site in terms
of
> what it offers--but the information on that site has to be taken
with
> a grain of salt, as it is no more reliable than any mispronounced
> utterances from George W. Bush.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@> wrote:
> > I think the wikipedia system is run pretty good
> > im sure there are problems and ive heard criticisms
> > but i personally have been using it for years
> > and think its the greatest site on the net
> >
>

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /SS_15.jpg
Uploaded by : hill19652000 <shop@...>
Description : Simian Scrolls

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/SS_15.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmliles

Regards,

hill19652000 <shop@...>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> __ Thanks but I still can't see it. I don't get emails from the group
> anymore so that's why I was hoping someone would upload it to the
> files section.
>
> Neil
>

Neil, If I've done it right should be in the file section now.

Best, Graham.

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In a message dated 9/23/08 2:09:32 AM Central Daylight Time, TZer0@... writes:

Personally I stay because I like to read about POTA.

And this group has more "meat" in it than the "others".

They may post more, but there's less substance there.

**** I know I try to "say" what I can regarding APES... I left the group... ***

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Nothing wrong with "The Group".

I just consider them POTA Lite.

Fine for most discussions.  Just

not in depth ones that might stir up

controversy.  A droid with a restraining

bolt.  An engine with a speed governor.

Some people like water in their whiskey.

 

 

In a message dated 9/23/2008 3:56:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Yes, some people on the group may post with less substance, or you could even come up with a percentage, but please don't insult the entire group or you are also insulting 90% of this group (an yourself, indirectly).

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One thing you can say about Bush . . .

He's willing to be hated to do what he believes.

What gets me is every 4 years there is a popularity

contest to become the most hated.  Strange isn't it?

Especially given how little power the office actually has.

 

 

In a message dated 9/23/2008 4:08:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, handleyr@... writes:

but the information on that site has to be taken with
a grain of salt, as it is no more reliable than any mispronounced
utterances from George W. Bush.

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Thanks Graham. Anyone else have a problem seeing the pictures from
the links or is it just me for some reason?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > __ Thanks but I still can't see it. I don't get emails from the group
> > anymore so that's why I was hoping someone would upload it to the
> > files section.
> >
> > Neil
> >
>
>
> Neil, If I've done it right should be in the file section now.
>
> Best, Graham.
>

-- Excellent cover by the way.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Graham. Anyone else have a problem seeing the pictures from
> the links or is it just me for some reason?
>
> Neil
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > >
> > > __ Thanks but I still can't see it. I don't get emails from the
group
> > > anymore so that's why I was hoping someone would upload it to the
> > > files section.
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> >
> >
> > Neil, If I've done it right should be in the file section now.
> >
> > Best, Graham.
> >
>

> Neil & I were discussing on the weekend that we would like to do a "this
> month on the POTA", summarising any news/events from the month.

> Hunter, would that be something you would welcome on your site?

Sure, that'd be cool to see.

Hunter

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To followup that report, Fox has sent over high resolution cover art for all five Apes films on Blu-ray: Planet of the Apes, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, Escape From the Planet of the Apes, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes and Battle For the Planet of the Apes.

The 40th Anniversary Collection will include special packaging and collectible booklet.

We've included direct links to each Apes Blu-ray release below as well as each film's respective cover art. 

• Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Collection

• Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Edition

• Beneath The Planet of The Apes

• Escape from the Planet of The Apes

• Conquest of the Planet of The Apes

• Battle for The Planet of The Apes

 

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Yes - illustration and colour both fantastic!

---- Neil <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> -- Excellent cover by the way.
>
> Neil
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Graham. Anyone else have a problem seeing the pictures from
> > the links or is it just me for some reason?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > __ Thanks but I still can't see it. I don't get emails from the
> group
> > > > anymore so that's why I was hoping someone would upload it to the
> > > > files section.
> > > >
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Neil, If I've done it right should be in the file section now.
> > >
> > > Best, Graham.
> > >
> >
>
>

We were thinking just how much POTA stuff there's been of late and maybe we would appreciate it more seing it in a monthly summary?

Michael


---- Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> > Neil & I were discussing on the weekend that we would like to do a "this
> > month on the POTA", summarising any news/events from the month.
>
> > Hunter, would that be something you would welcome on your site?
>
> Sure, that'd be cool to see.
>
> Hunter

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In a message dated 9/23/08 1:09:03 PM Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:

In a message dated 9/23/08 2:09:32 AM Central Daylight Time, TZer0@... writes:

Personally I stay because I like to read about POTA.

And this group has more "meat" in it than the "others".

They may post more, but there's less substance there.

**** I know I try to "say" what I can regarding APES... I left the group... ***

*** Thats should say: "I NEVER left the group... ***

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although I still don't like that they used apemania instead of the real actors, I do appreciate that they FINALLY have all appropriate characters and scenarios for each film.....!

--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

> From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
> Subject: [PotaDG] All Five Planet of the Apes Blu-ray Covers
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 7:20 PM
> http://www.thehdroom.com/news/All_Five_Planet_of_the_Apes_Blu-ray_Covers
> /3497
>
> Last week we reported Twentieth Century Fox Home
> Entertainment would
> release each of the Planet of the Apes films on Blu-ray
> individually as
> well as a part of the 40th Anniversary box set on November
> 4.
>
> To followup that report, Fox has sent over high resolution
> cover art for
> all five Apes films on Blu-ray: Planet of the Apes, Beneath
> the Planet
> of the Apes, Escape From the Planet of the Apes, Conquest
> of the Planet
> of the Apes and Battle For the Planet of the Apes.
>
> The 40th Anniversary Collection will include special
> packaging and
> collectible booklet.
>
> We've included direct links to each Apes Blu-ray
> release below as well
> as each film's respective cover art.
>
> * Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Collection
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7PX80?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7PX80>
>
>
>
>
>
> * Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Edition
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q186?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q186>
>
>
>
>
>
> * Beneath The Planet of The Apes
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q10Y?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q10Y>
>
>
>
>
>
> * Escape from the Planet of The Apes
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q15O?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q15O>
>
>
>
>
>
> * Conquest of the Planet of The Apes
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q13G?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q13G>
>
>
>
>
>
> * Battle for The Planet of The Apes
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q0Z0?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q0Z0>
>
>
>
>
> Neil

I have no problem with them having used Ape Mania to pose for illustrations.

I am a bit squeaminsh that they used them for the labels, particularly when I am told Fox has enormous archives of never-seen POTA photos (the guy from Rittenhouse told me so and he went through them for his $100 set!).

So in a perfect world I would have preferred illustrations on the labels too...then nobody would have even realised they were actors and would have simply thought it was innovative illustrating.

Michael


---- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

> although I still don't like that they used apemania instead of the real actors, I do appreciate that they FINALLY have all appropriate characters and scenarios for each film.....!
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/23/08, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
> > Subject: [PotaDG] All Five Planet of the Apes Blu-ray Covers
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 7:20 PM
> > http://www.thehdroom.com/news/All_Five_Planet_of_the_Apes_Blu-ray_Covers
> > /3497
> >
> > Last week we reported Twentieth Century Fox Home
> > Entertainment would
> > release each of the Planet of the Apes films on Blu-ray
> > individually as
> > well as a part of the 40th Anniversary box set on November
> > 4.
> >
> > To followup that report, Fox has sent over high resolution
> > cover art for
> > all five Apes films on Blu-ray: Planet of the Apes, Beneath
> > the Planet
> > of the Apes, Escape From the Planet of the Apes, Conquest
> > of the Planet
> > of the Apes and Battle For the Planet of the Apes.
> >
> > The 40th Anniversary Collection will include special
> > packaging and
> > collectible booklet.
> >
> > We've included direct links to each Apes Blu-ray
> > release below as well
> > as each film's respective cover art.
> >
> > * Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Collection
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7PX80?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> > 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7PX80>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Edition
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q186?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> > 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q186>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Beneath The Planet of The Apes
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q10Y?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> > 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q10Y>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Escape from the Planet of The Apes
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q15O?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> > 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q15O>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Conquest of the Planet of The Apes
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q13G?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> > 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q13G>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Battle for The Planet of The Apes
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q0Z0?ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> > 0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q0Z0>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil
>
>
>

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In a message dated 9/24/08 1:24:51 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

I am a bit squeaminsh that they used them for the labels, particularly when I am told Fox has enormous archives of never-seen POTA photos (the guy from Rittenhouse told me so and he went through them for his $100 set!).

*** Which "$100.00 set" are you referring to? The "Linda Harrison" set?

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I never get any of the picture attachments, I've tried changing Yahoo
settings, different computers, I don't know why they never come
through.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Graham. Anyone else have a problem seeing the pictures from
> the links or is it just me for some reason?
>
> Neil
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > >
> > > __ Thanks but I still can't see it. I don't get emails from the
group
> > > anymore so that's why I was hoping someone would upload it to
the
> > > files section.
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> >
> >
> > Neil, If I've done it right should be in the file section now.
> >
> > Best, Graham.
> >
>

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Ah, thanks!

(actually that's what my friends have called me since my school-days)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> And another..me mate Moxy!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> nlmoxham
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 1:09 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: wikipedia
>
>
>
> On the subject of Wikipedia, I've been adding a bit to the POTA

Wiki

> site 'Simian Scrolls' over the last few weeks:
>
> http://planetofthea

<http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page>

> pes.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
>
> I don't know why, it hadn't been updated in 2 years, but I've been
> filling in some of the blanks (missing entries for tv episodes,

pages

> for guest actors and characters). I've just been sketching out the
> framework for these new pages and adding some photos, if anyone has
> the time or inclination to flesh them out with episode synopses,
> character biographies, trivia, that kind of thing, please do, I'd

be

> very grateful. Or to correct any mistakes.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

com, "rassmguy"

> <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh, Wikipedia certainly has its uses, Tarry, I agree. But it's the
> > bane of journalism and should never be used for such a purpose,
> > because there's just no way to know, without conducting further
> > research, if anything you find there is true or accurate--and if
> > that's the case, then it's easier (and probably more sensible)

for a

> > person to look up their info elsewhere.
> >
> > This bit about Central City is a perfect example--someone doing
> > research for an article might think Breck was the governor of
> Central
> > City because that's what they found on Wikipedia, and thus repeat
> that
> > in their work. That false idea would then become propagated as
> others
> > referenced that article down the line.
> >
> > Now, just to be clear: I was only joking when I said Wikipedia is
> the
> > root of all evil--because I do think it's an amazing site in

terms

> of
> > what it offers--but the information on that site has to be taken
> with
> > a grain of salt, as it is no more reliable than any mispronounced
> > utterances from George W. Bush.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

com, "Terry

> Hoknes" <hoknescards@> wrote:
> > > I think the wikipedia system is run pretty good
> > > im sure there are problems and ive heard criticisms
> > > but i personally have been using it for years
> > > and think its the greatest site on the net
> > >
> >
>

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*** The talk of behind the scenes pictures has me wondering if Roddy took any still pictures while on the set of the APES films or if he only filmed things... He was a top-notch photographer and APES would have been a great subject to take pictures of....

 

If he did take any on the set shots, I'm sure they would have been interesting even if not up to par with his "studio work"... ***

 

 

 

In a message dated 9/24/08 3:49:44 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Yes, that's the one.

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 4:35 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] All Five Planet of the Apes Blu-ray Covers

 

In a message dated 9/24/08 1:24:51 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

I am a bit squeaminsh that they used them for the labels, particularly when I am told Fox has enormous archives of never-seen POTA photos (the guy from Rittenhouse told me so and he went through them for his $100 set!).

*** Which "$100.00 set" are you referring to? The "Linda Harrison" set?

 

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In a message dated 9/24/08 4:09:43 PM Central Daylight Time, johnbkirtley@... writes:

There's also pictures of Roddy filming on the set of Conquest. We have the brilliant footage

that Roddy took on the set of POTA so it is safe to presume there is a lot more footage from Roddys estate as well as his photographic record of the movies. There are also pictures of Roddy as Galen taking pictures on the TV set!

 

*** Yes, I have seen Roddy filming on the CONQUEST set, and I'm sure that there's a good amount of unused "home-movies" from the films that we'll never see... I'm certain that we just seen a portion of what he filmed on the PLANET set and that there's more that went unused...

 

As far as the picture of him taking photos on the tV series set, do you have a link to that photo or is it in a book (and if so, which one?) ***

 

 

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He HAD to have taken MANY shots! SOmewhere out there is a box full of incredible behind the scenes photos in someone's attic...!! Who became the owner of Roddy's estate????


Here's proof he took photos on the POTA set!

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@... > wrote:

> From: mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...>
> Subject: [PotaDG] Behind the scenes pics ( was: All Five Planet of the Apes Blu-ray Covers)
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 4:02 PM
> *** The talk of behind the scenes pictures has me wondering
> if Roddy took
> any still pictures while on the set of the APES films or if
> he only filmed
> things... He was a top-notch photographer and APES would
> have been a great
> subject to take pictures of....
>
> If he did take any on the set shots, I'm sure they
> would have been
> interesting even if not up to par with his "studio
> work"... ***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/24/08 3:49:44 AM Central Daylight
> Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Yes, that's the one.
>
>
>

THought this was cool.....

and with gas stations running out of gas everywhere...(I went to thirteen different stations today before I found one that had gas!).....seems it's time for The ROad Warrior to set about on his rounds!

http://mine.myxer.com/2008/09/24/t-shirt-celebrates-sci-fi-post-apocalyptic-classics/

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In a message dated 9/24/08 9:58:38 PM Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

Who became the owner of Roddy's estate????

*** I'm not sure who became the owner, maybe his companion at the time?

 

I do know that there was some sort of stipulation that his "archives" (or something like that), were not to be opened until 100 years after his death... ***

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100 years! all of his fans will be gone!!!

--- On Thu, 9/25/08, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@... > wrote:

> From: mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...>
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Behind the scenes pics ( was: All Five Planet of the Apes Blu-ra...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2008, 1:12 AM
> In a message dated 9/24/08 9:58:38 PM Central Daylight Time,
>
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> Who became the owner of Roddy's estate????
>
>
> *** I'm not sure who became the owner, maybe his
> companion at the time?
>
> I do know that there was some sort of stipulation that his
> "archives" (or
> something like that), were not to be opened until 100 years
> after his death...
> ***
>
>
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Onya Hilly!
>
>
>
> Now there's another reason I like this group......me mate Hilly!
>
>
>

Oh... you say that now...but what about when we win the Ashes back

Best,Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> We were thinking just how much POTA stuff there's been of late and maybe we would appreciate it more seing it in a monthly summary?
>
> Michael
>

I think this is a great idea, It's so easy to miss things or get behind with posts.

This should give a nice clean focus to fandom.

Best,Graham.

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In a message dated 9/25/08 3:42:24 PM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

is it this month the Blu-Ray editions were announced or was that late last month?

It was this month that we seen the packaging for the "individual releases", but as far as actually knowing they were releasing the APES films on Blu-Ray, I'd say go back to June at least...

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I know alot of people are upset that these covers don't feature
original photos, but I'm kind of impressed that they tried to put
together something completely new for this set. I'm sure it would
have been easier / cheaper for Fox to just cut & paste a new cover
together from their archives. Its more effort than they've ever shown
before & they look better than I was expecting.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.thehdroom.com/news/All_Five_Planet_of_the_Apes_Blu-
ray_Covers
> /3497
>
> Last week we reported Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment would
> release each of the Planet of the Apes films on Blu-ray
individually as
> well as a part of the 40th Anniversary box set on November 4.
>
> To followup that report, Fox has sent over high resolution cover
art for
> all five Apes films on Blu-ray: Planet of the Apes, Beneath the
Planet
> of the Apes, Escape From the Planet of the Apes, Conquest of the
Planet
> of the Apes and Battle For the Planet of the Apes.
>
> The 40th Anniversary Collection will include special packaging and
> collectible booklet.
>
> We've included direct links to each Apes Blu-ray release below as
well
> as each film's respective cover art.
>
> * Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Collection
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7PX80?
ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7PX80>
>
>
>
>
> * Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Edition
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q186?
ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q186>
>
>
>
>
> * Beneath The Planet of The Apes
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q10Y?
ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q10Y>
>
>
>
>
> * Escape from the Planet of The Apes
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q15O?
ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q15O>
>
>
>
>
> * Conquest of the Planet of The Apes
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q13G?
ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q13G>
>
>
>
>
> * Battle for The Planet of The Apes
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q0Z0?
ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q0Z0>
>
>
>
> Neil
>

-- Personally I think the new covers are fantastic. I find it amusing
that some Apes fans are so up in arms about them. So they don't use
original stills from the movies, no big deal to me. And after all the
years of complaining about the wrong characters on the covers or the
cover giving away the ending of the movie etc. some fans now complain
about getting something different which has obviously had some serious
thought put into it. Unbelievable!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> I know alot of people are upset that these covers don't feature
> original photos, but I'm kind of impressed that they tried to put
> together something completely new for this set. I'm sure it would
> have been easier / cheaper for Fox to just cut & paste a new cover
> together from their archives. Its more effort than they've ever shown
> before & they look better than I was expecting.

I'm very impressed by their efforts.

I do wish they went with illustrated labels but I won't complain
because yes, they are doing something DIFFERENT!

And no statue of liberty! Rory must be over the moon!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> I know alot of people are upset that these covers don't feature
> original photos, but I'm kind of impressed that they tried to put
> together something completely new for this set. I'm sure it would
> have been easier / cheaper for Fox to just cut & paste a new cover
> together from their archives. Its more effort than they've ever
shown
> before & they look better than I was expecting.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.thehdroom.com/news/All_Five_Planet_of_the_Apes_Blu-
> ray_Covers
> > /3497
> >
> > Last week we reported Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment
would
> > release each of the Planet of the Apes films on Blu-ray
> individually as
> > well as a part of the 40th Anniversary box set on November 4.
> >
> > To followup that report, Fox has sent over high resolution cover
> art for
> > all five Apes films on Blu-ray: Planet of the Apes, Beneath the
> Planet
> > of the Apes, Escape From the Planet of the Apes, Conquest of the
> Planet
> > of the Apes and Battle For the Planet of the Apes.
> >
> > The 40th Anniversary Collection will include special packaging and
> > collectible booklet.
> >
> > We've included direct links to each Apes Blu-ray release below as
> well
> > as each film's respective cover art.
> >
> > * Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Collection
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7PX80?
> ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> >
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7PX80>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Planet of the Apes: 40th Anniversary Edition
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q186?
> ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> >
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q186>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Beneath The Planet of The Apes
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q10Y?
> ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> >
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q10Y>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Escape from the Planet of The Apes
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q15O?
> ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> >
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q15O>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Conquest of the Planet of The Apes
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q13G?
> ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> >
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q13G>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > * Battle for The Planet of The Apes
> > <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G7Q0Z0?
> ie=UTF8&tag=themanroomcom-2
> >
>
0&link_code=as3&camp=211189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B001G7Q0Z0>
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil
> >
>

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No not yet, but . . .

I was watching Glen Beck the other day, and he had a guy on who said

if the oil supply dropped 2 million barrels a day, or 10 %, for and extended

period of time, say 30 days or more, it would be "Mad Max, neighbor against

neighbor."  That's a quote.  And he said everyone he's talked to, said the same.

Gas isn't as bad here.  This is Texas after all.  But some stations only have regular.

 

 

In a message dated 9/25/2008 9:57:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

seems it's time for The ROad Warrior to set about on his rounds!

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Yes, but you MUST know by now Neil that when it comes to getting it
right, nearly every POTA fan thinks only THEY can GET it right!

We are a strange bunch.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Personally I think the new covers are fantastic. I find it
amusing
> that some Apes fans are so up in arms about them. So they don't use
> original stills from the movies, no big deal to me. And after all
the
> years of complaining about the wrong characters on the covers or the
> cover giving away the ending of the movie etc. some fans now
complain
> about getting something different which has obviously had some
serious
> thought put into it. Unbelievable!
>
> Neil
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> >
> > I know alot of people are upset that these covers don't feature
> > original photos, but I'm kind of impressed that they tried to put
> > together something completely new for this set. I'm sure it would
> > have been easier / cheaper for Fox to just cut & paste a new
cover
> > together from their archives. Its more effort than they've ever
shown
> > before & they look better than I was expecting.
>

In 100 years the petrol powered automobile will be the plaything of the
very, very rich only.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> No not yet, but . . .
> I was watching Glen Beck the other day, and he had a guy on who said
> if the oil supply dropped 2 million barrels a day, or 10 %, for and
extended
> period of time, say 30 days or more, it would be "Mad Max, neighbor
against
> neighbor." That's a quote. And he said everyone he's talked to,
said the
> same.
> Gas isn't as bad here. This is Texas after all. But some stations
only
> have regular.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/25/2008 9:57:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> seems it's time for The ROad Warrior to set about on his rounds!
>
>
>
>
>
> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life
financial
> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information,
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Personally, I would be happy with just the art & photos

from the original release posters & lobby cards.  It's

not very original, but at least it'd be the originals.

 

 

In a message dated 9/25/2008 11:04:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Yes, but you MUST know by now Neil that when it comes to getting it
right, nearly every POTA fan thinks only THEY can GET it right!

We are a strange bunch.

Michael

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Very true.  The new Toyota Celica GT will come with You Choice

of either a Subaru Boxer engine, or a high performance hybrid

with electric motors in each wheel.  Not quite Mad Max's

On/Off supercharger, but still very Road Worthy!

 

In a message dated 9/25/2008 11:06:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

In 100 years the petrol powered automobile will be the plaything of the
very, very rich only.

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In a message dated 9/25/08 11:14:58 PM Central Daylight Time, TZer0@... writes:

Personally, I would be happy with just the art & photos from the original release posters & lobby cards.  It's not very original, but at least it'd be the originals.

*** That's all I ever wanted... ***

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Personally I think the new covers are fantastic. I find it amusing
> that some Apes fans are so up in arms about them. So they don't use
> original stills from the movies, no big deal to me. And after all the
> years of complaining about the wrong characters on the covers or the
> cover giving away the ending of the movie etc. some fans now complain
> about getting something different which has obviously had some serious
> thought put into it. Unbelievable!
>
> Neil
>

 

I 've come round to liking the new designs in the last few days.

Now, as you know, I usually don't get my knickers in a twist if an image is "off-model" or "on-model" or stuff of that nature but there was something that bothered me about them...and the funny thing was I came to the conclusion it was just that they were digital photos/ illustrations... I was just being a grumpy old git,  I wouldn't have been bothered if they were traditional paintings or drawings... as you say they're well designed nothing wrong with them at all, so it was just my own Prejudice.

The thin line between photos and artwork is going to get even thinner in the next few years so I'm sure we're going to see more of this type of work in the future.

(Tim Bradstreet (SP?) is an illustrator who's been doing covers for Marvel's Punisher comic for awhile now and his work has a lot of digital manipulated photos)

Best,Graham.

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In a message dated 9/26/08 3:26:46 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

But you already know what they look like!

***Yes, I know what the original poaters/lobby cards, etc. look like... But these films have never had their original poster artwork depicted on the various videos and/or DVDs (that I'm aware of), so why not use them on something like this upcoming box-set... I know it will not be happening now of course, it will remain a "why didn't they" question... ***

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Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group
Title:		Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa's Birthday
Date:		Saturday September 27, 2008
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*** I was tipped off to this link by another egroup, but I figured I'd post the link here (just not that other person's complete post)... ***

 

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Notes:		Happy Birthday James! (President of the Assembly: Planet of the Apes (1968))
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> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 7:32 PM
> Google News Alert for: Planet of the Apes
>
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> FOX MOVIE CHANNEL BECOMES "CHANNEL OF THE APES"
>
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> the ground-breaking Planet of the Apes science-fiction
> franchise, includes the first five theatrical films, ...
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Matt,

 

I didn't know you're still haunting this board... You should chime in more often...

 

 

In a message dated 10/1/08 4:41:29 PM Central Daylight Time, matthew.sotis@... writes:

On the finkbuilt chimp tunic? Thanks! They were pulled from a mold i made of one of the actual glyphs years ago.

----- Original Message ----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:23:03 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Male chimp tunic

Very nice.  Matt Sotis, I didn¢t realize you made the glyphs!

 

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In a message dated 10/1/08 4:48:35 PM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Please excuse my ignorance – but I thought the glyphs were leather and therefore would have been hand-carved or something?

*** I believe the original glyphs were leather over the glyph underneath to make it look "hand-forged" or whatever, but don't quote me on that... ***

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In a message dated 10/1/08 4:52:05 PM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Hell – EVERYBODY should!  J

*** I agree Whitty J...   We need to hear from "everyone"... I still haven't heard anyone's reviews of Terry's "APE CHRONICLES", which I'd be curious about... Wonder if he'll review the BLU-RAY set? ***

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I'd sure like to have a mold of that mold! : )

 

 

In a message dated 10/1/2008 4:40:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, matthew.sotis@... writes:

On the finkbuilt chimp tunic? Thanks! They were pulled from a mold i made of one of the actual glyphs years ago.

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