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Another interesting point – do I
recall correctly that the first in the ADVENTURE series broke comic sales
records?
What then can we conclude from this?
Maybe this was the first disappointment for less resilient fans than us and
they have simply not recovered since then!
Maybe that’s a good indicator too –
whom do we know from the ADVENTURES letters?
I still think there are a lot of “borderline”
fans who have been disappointed and have turned away. There’s also that realization
a lot of US are getting that the TV Show was a bit silly (being generous) and
the movies, while being something a kid can love, leave intelligent adults
saying “hey! You can’t DO that!”.
That’s why POTA, more than any other
franchise, needs an intelligent reboot
And I still believe that comics, novels
etc done right will sell.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of rassmguy Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 6:39 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really
all there is?
So, I've just finished re-reading Revolution on the
Planet of the Apes--damn, I love that series--and I noticed a trend that was
both fascinating and disturbing. In the letters pages, I recognized the name of
practically everyone who had written in, as almost all of us (yes, a truncated
version of a letter from me was among them...and boy did I sound dorky) hailed
from this and/or the other Yahoo group.
On the one hand, that was kind of a cool experience. I've been re-reading much
of my collection over the past two years--Star Trek, Hellblazer, Star Wars,
Swamp Thing, Preacher and a bunch of other titles--and despite knowing a
letter-writer here and there, the majority were unknown to me. With Revolution,
though, almost everyone who wrote in is in our small communities.
Which leads me to the other hand in this scenario...are we really all there is?
Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now, that the only people who
would write in to a new comic book series would come from us--even though
combined, the POTA and DG groups only number something like a thousand members,
some of whom overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really. A thousand fans is a
VERY small group, compared to the millions that go to see any given film, or
the tens of thousands that purchase spinoff fiction--so how is it that almost
every person whose letter was published in those six issues can be found in
these two groups?
Are Planet of the Apes fans a dying breed?
(I've posted this question in both groups, as I'm interested in hearing a
number of different perspectives. )
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Message: 53527
From: Michael & Sally Whitty
Date: 5/16/2009
Subject: Are we really all there is - DVD sales.....
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The DVDs are different.
Lots of people who are not hard core, or
even soft core fans will buy the DVDs for PRESENTATION, or VALUE.
If they are borderline, the extras can be
just the push they need and they get more plentiful with each POTA DVD release.
The packaging is also great and WOW there’s
a DIFFERENT version of one of the movies.
Like when ALIEN comes out on DVD in the
collection sets – I always buy them! I’m not in an ALIENS group,
don’t even like all the movies but something tells my psyche they MUST go
in the collection!
I think POTA is similar to non-fans.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 6:43 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really
all there is?
It's a
good point and i think its a good reality check
Due to the fact of the small numbers I am surprised that Fox
is able to have good sales numbers
on the multiple DVD releases
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Message: 53528
From: Michael & Sally Whitty
Date: 5/16/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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I disagree. It hasn’t hurt Star Trek!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 6:43 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really
all there is?
I also believe the internet is a big killer
now you can be a fan and a collector of POTA
stuff and NOT have to have any involvement with other fans
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Message: 53529
From: Michael & Sally Whitty
Date: 5/16/2009
Subject: Neil's Pin-Ups in Revolution.
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Yes they look awesome don’t they!
Neil, do you have some with the borders
that you can share?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of rassmguy Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 6:47 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Are we
really all there is?
I forgot to mention, in my previous note, that I
absolutely loved Neil Foster's two pinups in the final issue. Neil, you are one
fine Planet of the Apes artist, man.
.
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Message: 53530
From: Michael & Sally Whitty
Date: 5/16/2009
Subject: Re: Group Site Picture
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The colour looks great – who did
that?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 8:17 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Group Site
Picture
I
lifted that part of the panel from a test colouring (not by me) done of that
page.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Michael & Sally
Whitty Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:55 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Group Site
Picture
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Neil,
The colours look great – where’s that from?
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Message: 53531
From: Michael & Sally Whitty
Date: 5/16/2009
Subject: Re: Numbers
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Cougar’s on the Mego site and he
recruited the one fan of POTA already! J
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 9:51 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Numbers
How
many POTA Mego toy collectors do we think are out there?
are they actually fans of the movies/tv OR just mego fans ?
Is there a way we could promote our POTA groups/products to
Mego groups and sites?
Rich
First of all, you have to realize one very important
thing. Although I know it’s done with hand on heart and “for
the greater good”, there’s no way on earth, or any parallel
universe, that there’s 800 or so members on the POTA group.
When James and I ran the DG we both took turns at
“recruiting” and were so devastated by the lack of people out
there, we agreed to get family and friends to boost the numbers. This
eventually led to the pair of us even registering fake YAHOO! And HOTMAIL (and
any others we could) Email addresses and joining them up to the DG. The
goal was to inflate the numbers so the few fans that did come across Yahoo!
Would choose the DG over any other group.
I am not “bashing” the POTA group here but I am
saying they would have no more than maybe 120 genuine POTA fans on the
group. Nor am I sitting in judgement…it’s not for
me to judge someone who is simply trying to attract more POTA fans,
particularly when I have done the same thing in the past. I just decided
one day to purge the excess fakes and the DG numbers went from 600 to 100.
Personally, when I dealt with Debbie at Fox, I seriously
tried to sidestep numbers. I was able to say my group consisted of almost
a thousand POTA fans and that gave me a lot more confidence than saying I
represent 100 fans does.
However, being completely honest, I am saying that the
number is nowhere near a thousand – it’s not even 200 people.
Given the state of the internet and that anyone who likes
POTA would do a search and easily find the groups, I think this is a good
indication of the number of English speaking fans out there.
Michael
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of rassmguy Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 6:39 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really
all there is?
So, I've
just finished re-reading Revolution on the Planet of the Apes--damn, I love
that series--and I noticed a trend that was both fascinating and disturbing. In
the letters pages, I recognized the name of practically everyone who had
written in, as almost all of us (yes, a truncated version of a letter from me
was among them...and boy did I sound dorky) hailed from this and/or the other
Yahoo group.
On the one hand, that was kind of a cool experience. I've been re-reading much
of my collection over the past two years--Star Trek, Hellblazer, Star Wars,
Swamp Thing, Preacher and a bunch of other titles--and despite knowing a
letter-writer here and there, the majority were unknown to me. With Revolution,
though, almost everyone who wrote in is in our small communities.
Which leads me to the other hand in this scenario...are we really all there is?
Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now, that the only people who
would write in to a new comic book series would come from us--even though combined,
the POTA and DG groups only number something like a thousand members, some of
whom overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really. A thousand fans is a VERY
small group, compared to the millions that go to see any given film, or the
tens of thousands that purchase spinoff fiction--so how is it that almost every
person whose letter was published in those six issues can be found in these two
groups?
Are Planet of the Apes fans a dying breed?
(I've posted this question in both groups, as I'm interested in hearing a
number of different perspectives. )
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Message: 53532
From: Michael & Sally Whitty
Date: 5/16/2009
Subject: My question is: HOW MANY FANS ARE THERE IN JAPAN?!?!?!
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From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 9:55 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
It is
a good point to note that readers of Revolution would have to hear about it
from advance promo on the internet
and of course that will be through the yahoogroups or any
main POTA websites
but it does make sense that the "promoters" of ape
fandom would be on these groups and we would know them all (including myself)
But it also shows that the comic series definitely need
bigger promotion to reach others
Because unless you are already a monthly comic fan you would
not ever hear about the series if you were a general POTA fan
It's not
all that gloomy, but yes we are a dying breed.
You've got to remember that Revolution is a comic and (sadly) a large
number of fans do not read comics. As it was also from a relatively new
and smaller publisher, the comics had to really push their way onto
retailers shelves. So you just cannot judge POTA fandom numbers by the
fact that 'we' were heavily influenced by Revolution and thus made our
presence known by submitting letters.
However there is still a large population of people out there that liked
the Apes movies and do 'connect' with them. Do are not necessarily fans
in the sense that they actively participate in these forums. But they
would enjoy and appreciate a good POTA series revival (if we can ever
get one).
PS: I was thinking of going down to Toronto
again this year to once
again meet up with all the creators that put out Revolution, but it
appears that the Paradise Comic con was put on hiatus this year because
of scheduling conflicts. Too bad. I'm still kicking myself for not
getting that group photo when I had the chance last year.
Dario
----- Original Message -----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@optonline. net>
Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:39 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
> So, I've just finished re-reading Revolution on the Planet of the
> Apes--damn, I love that series--and I noticed a trend that was both
> fascinating and disturbing. In the letters pages, I recognized the
> name of practically everyone who had written in, as almost all of
> us (yes, a truncated version of a letter from me was among
> them...and boy did I sound dorky) hailed from this and/or the other
> Yahoo group.
>
> On the one hand, that was kind of a cool experience. I've been re-
> reading much of my collection over the past two years--Star Trek,
> Hellblazer, Star Wars, Swamp Thing, Preacher and a bunch of other
> titles--and despite knowing a letter-writer here and there, the
> majority were unknown to me. With Revolution, though, almost
> everyone who wrote in is in our small communities.
>
> Which leads me to the other hand in this scenario...are we really
> all there is? Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now,
> that the only people who would write in to a new comic book series
> would come from us--even though combined, the POTA and DG groups
> only number something like a thousand members, some of whom
> overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really. A thousand fans is a
> VERY small group, compared to the millions that go to see any given
> film, or the tens of thousands that purchase spinoff fiction--so
> how is it that almost every person whose letter was published in
> those six issues can be found in these two groups?
>
> Are Planet of the Apes fans a dying breed?
>
> (I've posted this question in both groups, as I'm interested in
> hearing a number of different perspectives. )
>
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/PotaDG/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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Message: 53533
From: Jeff
Date: 5/16/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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I, for one, live breath and eat POTA, but HATE the
comics. Always have. I have all the POTA mags, but only 3 issues of
the first comics. NONE that came out after that. There are a lot
of fans who LOVE the movie(s) and that's it. I just "draw the line"
at the comics.
It's not all that gloomy, but yes we are a dying breed.
You've
got to remember that Revolution is a comic and (sadly) a large number of
fans do not read comics. As it was also from a relatively new and smaller
publisher, the comics had to really push their way onto retailers
shelves. So you just cannot judge POTA fandom numbers by the fact that
'we' were heavily influenced by Revolution and thus made our presence
known by submitting letters.
However there is still a large
population of people out there that liked the Apes movies and do
'connect' with them. Do are not necessarily fans in the sense that they
actively participate in these forums. But they would enjoy and appreciate
a good POTA series revival (if we can ever get one).
PS: I was
thinking of going down to Toronto again this year to once again meet up
with all the creators that put out Revolution, but it appears that the
Paradise Comic con was put on hiatus this year because of scheduling
conflicts. Too bad. I'm still kicking myself for not getting that group
photo when I had the chance last year.
Dario
----- Original
Message ----- From: rassmguy <handleyr@optonline. net> Date:
Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:39 pm Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really all there
is?
> So, I've just finished re-reading Revolution on the Planet
of the > Apes--damn, I love that series--and I noticed a trend that
was both > fascinating and disturbing. In the letters pages, I
recognized the > name of practically everyone who had written in, as
almost all of > us (yes, a truncated version of a letter from me was
among > them...and boy did I sound dorky) hailed from this and/or the
other > Yahoo group. > > On the one hand, that was kind
of a cool experience. I've been re- > reading much of my collection
over the past two years--Star Trek, > Hellblazer, Star Wars, Swamp
Thing, Preacher and a bunch of other > titles--and despite knowing a
letter-writer here and there, the > majority were unknown to me. With
Revolution, though, almost > everyone who wrote in is in our small
communities. > > Which leads me to the other hand in this
scenario...are we really > all there is? Are we so small and isolated
a group of fans now, > that the only people who would write in to a
new comic book series > would come from us--even though combined, the
POTA and DG groups > only number something like a thousand members,
some of whom > overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really. A thousand
fans is a > VERY small group, compared to the millions that go to see
any given > film, or the tens of thousands that purchase spinoff
fiction--so > how is it that almost every person whose letter was
published in > those six issues can be found in these two
groups? > > Are Planet of the Apes fans a dying breed? >
> (I've posted this question in both groups, as I'm interested in
> hearing a number of different perspectives. ) > >
> > >
------------ --------- --------- ------ > > To
visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/PotaDG/ >
Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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Message: 53534
From: Terry Hoknes
Date: 5/16/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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Bringing up Star Wars, Star Trek or Doctor
Who
is a good way to compare
These are much longer running franchises which have
been kept fairly constantly popular over many many years
and their following is way way way bigger than we
could ever hope for for POTA
however my question next is have the sales of these
big franchises
been hurt in the past decade by the internet
etc.
Are comic sales and toy sales as good as they used
to be ?
Are soundtracks and dvd releases selling as good as
they used to be ?
I do believe a franchise does have to reach the
masses either through TV or Movie
POTA has had only one project officially released
in the 2 major venues in the past 34 yrs
The big 3 franchises mentioned above still have had
a lot of new projects on the go in the past 34 yrs
and new projects this year alone
!!
I think a POTA movie or tv show that ties in
directly to the original movies is the only way the old stuff could be boosted
From:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 6:43
AM To:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really all there
is?
I also believe the internet is a
big killernow you
can be a fan and a collector of POTA stuff and NOT have to have any
involvement with other fans
I, for one, live breath and eat POTA, but HATE
the comics. Always have. I have all the POTA mags, but only 3
issues of the first comics. NONE that came out after that. There
are a lot of fans who LOVE the movie(s) and that's it. I just
"draw the line" at the comics.
It's not all that gloomy, but yes we are a dying breed.
You've
got to remember that Revolution is a comic and (sadly) a large number
of fans do not read comics. As it was also from a relatively new and
smaller publisher, the comics had to really push their way
onto retailers shelves. So you just cannot judge POTA fandom numbers by
the fact that 'we' were heavily influenced by Revolution and thus made
our presence known by submitting letters.
However there is still
a large population of people out there that liked the Apes movies and
do 'connect' with them. Do are not necessarily fans in the sense that
they actively participate in these forums. But they would enjoy and
appreciate a good POTA series revival (if we can ever get
one).
PS: I was thinking of going down to Toronto again this year
to once again meet up with all the creators that put out Revolution,
but it appears that the Paradise Comic con was put on hiatus this year
because of scheduling conflicts. Too bad. I'm still kicking myself for
not getting that group photo when I had the chance last
year.
Dario
----- Original Message ----- From: rassmguy
<handleyr@optonline. net> Date:
Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:39 pm Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really all
there is?
> So, I've just finished re-reading Revolution on the
Planet of the > Apes--damn, I love that series--and I noticed a
trend that was both > fascinating and disturbing. In the letters
pages, I recognized the > name of practically everyone who had
written in, as almost all of > us (yes, a truncated version of a
letter from me was among > them...and boy did I sound dorky) hailed
from this and/or the other > Yahoo group. > > On the
one hand, that was kind of a cool experience. I've been re- >
reading much of my collection over the past two years--Star Trek, >
Hellblazer, Star Wars, Swamp Thing, Preacher and a bunch of other >
titles--and despite knowing a letter-writer here and there, the >
majority were unknown to me. With Revolution, though, almost >
everyone who wrote in is in our small communities. > > Which
leads me to the other hand in this scenario...are we really > all
there is? Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now, > that
the only people who would write in to a new comic book series >
would come from us--even though combined, the POTA and DG groups >
only number something like a thousand members, some of whom >
overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really. A thousand fans is a >
VERY small group, compared to the millions that go to see any given
> film, or the tens of thousands that purchase spinoff fiction--so
> how is it that almost every person whose letter was published in
> those six issues can be found in these two groups? >
> Are Planet of the Apes fans a dying breed? > > (I've
posted this question in both groups, as I'm interested in > hearing
a number of different perspectives. ) > > >
> >
------------ --------- --------- ------ > > To
visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/PotaDG/ >
Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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Message: 53536
From: PofTAfan@aol.com
Date: 5/16/2009
Subject: Re: Numbers
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I don't collect Mego toys, I only collect movie stills and other movie memorablia.
I have to agree about the small number of true fans who love POTA, and the
others who just watch the movies but are not true fans. I still want to do a
art book on the Planet of the Apes.
Kevin
PofTAfan
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 16 May 2009 9:00 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Numbers
Cougar's on the Mego site and he
recruited the one fan of POTA already! J
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 9:51 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Numbers
How
many POTA Mego toy collectors do we think are out there?
are they actually fans of the movies/tv OR just mego fans ?
Is there a way we could promote our POTA groups/products to
Mego groups and sites?
Rich
First of all, you have to realize one very important
thing. Although I know it's done with hand on heart and "for
the greater good", there's no way on earth, or any parallel
universe, that there's 800 or so members on the POTA group.
When James and I ran the DG we both took turns at
"recruiting" and were so devastated by the lack of people out
there, we agreed to get family and friends to boost the numbers. This
eventually led to the pair of us even registering fake YAHOO! And HOTMAIL (and
any others we could) Email addresses and joining them up to the DG. The
goal was to inflate the numbers so the few fans that did come across Yahoo!
Would choose the DG over any other group.
I am not "bashing" the POTA group here but I am
saying they would have no more than maybe 120 genuine POTA fans on the
group. Nor am I sitting in judgement…it9s not for
me to judge someone who is simply trying to attract more POTA fans,
particularly when I have done the same thing in the past. I just decided
one day to purge the excess fakes and the DG numbers went from 600 to 100.
Personally, when I dealt with Debbie at Fox, I seriously
tried to sidestep numbers. I was able to say my group consisted of almost
a thousand POTA fans and that gave me a lot more confidence than saying I
represent 100 fans does.
However, being completely honest, I am saying that the
number is nowhere near a thousand – it's not even 200 people.
Given the state of the internet and that anyone who likes
POTA would do a search and easily find the groups, I think this is a good
indication of the number of English speaking fans out there.
Michael
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of rassmguy Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 6:39 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really
all there is?
So, I've
just finished re-reading Revolution on the Planet of the Apes--damn, I love
that series--and I noticed a trend that was both fascinating and disturbing. In
the letters pages, I recognized the name of practically everyone who had
written in, as almost all of us (yes, a truncated version of a letter from me
was among them...and boy did I sound dorky) hailed from this and/or the other
Yahoo group.
On the one hand, that was kind of a cool experience. I'v
e been re-reading much
of my collection over the past two years--Star Trek, Hellblazer, Star Wars,
Swamp Thing, Preacher and a bunch of other titles--and despite knowing a
letter-writer here and there, the majority were unknown to me. With Revolution,
though, almost everyone who wrote in is in our small communities.
Which leads me to the other hand in this scenario...are we really all there is?
Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now, that the only people who
would write in to a new comic book series would come from us--even though combined,
the POTA and DG groups only number something like a thousand members, some of
whom overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really. A thousand fans is a VERY
small group, compared to the millions that go to see any given film, or the
tens of thousands that purchase spinoff fiction--so how is it that almost every
person whose letter was published in those six issues can be found in these two
groups?
Are Planet of the Apes fans a dying breed?
(I've posted this question in both groups, as I'm interested in hearing a
number of different perspectives. )
I think something that does not negate the
movies/TV Show but shows a different take.
That’s why I have chosen to go back
into the timeline before Taylor
landed. This is something that’s as yet unexplored. In the movies it’s
only AFTER Taylor
lands.
That’s why my take on the timelines
is that originally there was a completely different revolution (one that made
more sense than CONQUEST) and then after Taylor lands, earth blows up and Z,C
& M travel back in time, the CAESAR led revolution is completely different
(earlier, and more driven by things other than those that make sense like
genetic manipulation etc).
In other words I think you need to be able
to draw your own links to the original, and have the original make-ups (maybe
with modern tech to move mouths better like robotics or CGA).
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 11:47 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
Bringing
up Star Wars, Star Trek or Doctor Who
is a good way to compare
These are much longer running franchises which have been
kept fairly constantly popular over many many years
and their following is way way way bigger than we could ever
hope for for POTA
however my question next is have the sales of these big
franchises
been hurt in the past decade by the internet etc.
Are comic sales and toy sales as good as they used to be ?
Are soundtracks and dvd releases selling as good as they
used to be ?
I do believe a franchise does have to reach the masses
either through TV or Movie
POTA has had only one project officially released in the 2
major venues in the past 34 yrs
The big 3 franchises mentioned above still have had a lot of
new projects on the go in the past 34 yrs
and new projects this year alone !!
I think a POTA movie or tv show that ties in directly to the
original movies is the only way the old stuff could be boosted
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 6:43 AM To:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really
all there is?
I also
believe the internet is a big killernow
you can be a fan and a collector of POTA stuff and NOT have to have any
involvement with other fans
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I’d like to see that too, but I think you’d
be kissing your investment set up money goodbye.
I am dedicated to getting out monthly
comics illustrated by Neil, because I think there’s enough POTA fans who would
come back for comics that are well done. I think Ty proved that.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@... Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 11:48 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Numbers
still want to do a
art book on the Planet of the Apes.
Kevin
PofTAfan
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Yeah, I know, but it something I would really like to do, yeah, I may lose money on it but it something I would really like to do,
also, I really would like to see a monthly comic, but alsoI would like to see an monthly internet comic also and some fan made episode on the internet.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 16 May 2009 9:57 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Numbers
I'd like to see that too, but I think you'd
be kissing your investment set up money goodbye.
I am dedicated to getting out monthly
comics illustrated by Neil, because I think there's enough POTA fans who would
come back for comics that are well done. I think Ty proved that.
Michael
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 11:48 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Numbers
still want to do a
art book on the Planet of the Apes.
In a message dated 5/16/09 5:21:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
Also Rich I think you need
to lower your figure even more from the thousand members as a lot of the ones
on the POTA group are not even real people!
I'd say there's at least a few thousand people, not based on the
Yahoo groups numbers but based on the sell outs of the of the
movie and TV soundtrack CDs... Granted some of those sold to fans of the
composers but I'd guess most sold to fans of the films and television
series...
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Date: 5/17/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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In a message dated 5/16/09 8:48:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
hoknescards@... writes:
why DO you draw the line at
comics?
*** Most of them are pure crap... "Viking" apes, "Robin Hoodesque"
apes, APE-NATION, and the list goes on... The only ones I can say I really
like(d) are the film adaptions... ***
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have there been a true count of people who are ape fans, because of these numbers being thrown out here,
there isn't an actual count of who are ape fans.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@...
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 17 May 2009 1:14 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
In a message dated 5/16/09 5:21:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
Also Rich I think you need
to lower your figure even more from the thousand members as a lot of the ones
on the POTA group are not even real people!
I'd say there's at least a few thousand people, not based on the
Yahoo groups numbers but based on the sell outs of the of the
movie and TV soundtrack CDs... Granted some of those sold to fans of the
composers but I'd guess most sold to fans of the films and television
series...
In a message dated 5/16/09 8:48:44 PM Central Daylight Time, hoknescards@ shaw.ca writes:
why DO you draw the line at
comics?
*** Most of them are pure crap... "Viking" apes, "Robin
Hoodesque" apes, APE-NATION, and the list goes on... The only ones I can say I
really like(d) are the film adaptions... ***
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On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:
In a message dated 5/16/09 8:48:44 PM Central Daylight Time, hoknescards@... writes:
why DO you draw the line at comics?
*** Most of them are pure crap... "Viking" apes, "Robin Hoodesque" apes, APE-NATION, and the list goes on... The only ones I can say I really like(d) are the film adaptions... ***
What do I get from joining a group like this one? Well...lots of things. For starters, it's great to know that I am not the only one that lives breathes and will die with Planet of the Apes on my mind.
Also, I get a heads-up of new developments, so that I know what to look out for, product-wise. Nobody at home enjoys the work I do on my dollies, so at least I can share my work with some who can appreciate the love
that went into it. There are some very great discussions that are ape-related that I have been lurking on. It's great to see somebody else's take or idea. I love the photos that are shared here. They
are great references for my hobby. And it's great to see the various personalities mingling with each other. And sometimes the discussions get pretty hilarious and I actually smile or laugh out loud. It's
just fun for me.
I actually never grew up with comics, so I am clueless as far as that part of the world.
Jessica.
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I don't collect Mego toys either, but I have to because of the scale. 1:6 is easier to work with, but 1:9 is smaller so the market scene at Ape City won't take up so much space. I have about 12 megos.
I have more 1:6 figures (humans) which are being churned into apes over time. I am more of a crafter than a collector.
Jessica.
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:09 PM, <PofTAfan@...>
wrote:
Yeah, I know, but it something I would really like to do, yeah, I may lose money on it but it something I would really like to do,
also, I really would like to see a monthly comic, but alsoI would like to see an monthly internet comic also and some fan made episode on the internet.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
I'd like to see that too, but I think you'd be kissing your investment set up money goodbye.
I am dedicated to getting out monthly comics illustrated by Neil, because I think there's enough POTA fans who would come back for comics that are well done. I think Ty proved
that.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@... Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 11:48 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Numbers
still want to do a art book on the Planet of the Apes.
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <
sallywhitty@...> wrote:
Cougar's on the Mego site and he recruited the one fan of POTA already! J
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 9:51 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Numbers
How many POTA Mego toy collectors do we think are out there?
are they actually fans of the movies/tv OR just mego fans ?
Is there a way we could promote our POTA groups/products to Mego groups and sites?
Rich
First of all, you have to realize one very important thing. Although I know it's done with hand on heart and "for the greater good", there's no way on
earth, or any parallel universe, that there's 800 or so members on the POTA group.
When James and I ran the DG we both took turns at "recruiting" and were so devastated by the lack of people out there, we agreed to get family and friends to
boost the numbers. This eventually led to the pair of us even registering fake YAHOO! And HOTMAIL (and any others we could) Email addresses and joining them up to the DG. The goal was to inflate the numbers so the
few fans that did come across Yahoo! Would choose the DG over any other group.
I am not "bashing" the POTA group here but I am saying they would have no more than maybe 120 genuine POTA fans on the group. Nor am I sitting in judgement…it's not for me to judge someone who is simply trying to attract more POTA fans, particularly when I have done the same thing in the past. I just decided
one day to purge the excess fakes and the DG numbers went from 600 to 100.
Personally, when I dealt with Debbie at Fox, I seriously tried to sidestep numbers. I was able to say my group consisted of almost a thousand POTA fans and
that gave me a lot more confidence than saying I represent 100 fans does.
However, being completely honest, I am saying that the number is nowhere near a thousand – it's not even 200 people.
Given the state of the internet and that anyone who likes POTA would do a search and easily find the groups, I think this is a good indication of the number of
English speaking fans out there.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 6:39 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
So, I've just finished re-reading Revolution on the Planet of the Apes--damn, I love that series--and I noticed a trend that was both fascinating and disturbing. In the letters pages, I
recognized the name of practically everyone who had written in, as almost all of us (yes, a truncated version of a letter from me was among them...and boy did I sound dorky) hailed from this and/or the other Yahoo
group.
On the one hand, that was kind of a cool experience. I've been re-reading much of my collection over the past two years--Star Trek, Hellblazer, Star Wars, Swamp Thing, Preacher and a bunch of other titles--and
despite knowing a letter-writer here and there, the majority were unknown to me. With Revolution, though, almost everyone who wrote in is in our small communities.
Which leads me to the other hand in this scenario...are we really all there is? Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now, that the only people who would write in to a new comic book series would come from
us--even though combined, the POTA and DG groups only number something like a thousand members, some of whom overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really. A thousand fans is a VERY small group, compared to the
millions that go to see any given film, or the tens of thousands that purchase spinoff fiction--so how is it that almost every person whose letter was published in those six issues can be found in these two groups?
Are Planet of the Apes fans a dying breed?
(I've posted this question in both groups, as I'm interested in hearing a number of different perspectives.)
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I’m not sure about that Mike –
I think it’s more SOUNDTRACK collectors who snapped them up.
But there COULD be 1,000 fans out there….
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@... Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 3:14 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
In a message dated 5/16/09 5:21:56 PM
Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
Also Rich I think you
need to lower your figure even more from the thousand members as a lot of the
ones on the POTA group are not even real people!
I'd say there's at least
a few thousand people, not based on the Yahoo groups numbers but based on
the sell outs of the of the movie and TV soundtrack CDs... Granted
some of those sold to fans of the composers but I'd guess most sold to fans of
the films and television series...
I don’t think we could DEFINE an
APES FAN let alone count them!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@... Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 3:28 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
have there been a true count of people who are ape fans, because of
these numbers being thrown out here, there isn't an
actual count of who are ape fans.
Kevin
-----Original
Message-----
From: mlccougar@aol. com
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, 17 May 2009 1:14 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
In a message dated
5/16/09 5:21:56 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
Also Rich I think you
need to lower your figure even more from the thousand members as a lot of the
ones on the POTA group are not even real people!
I'd say there's at least
a few thousand people, not based on the Yahoo groups numbers but based on
the sell outs of the of the movie and TV soundtrack CDs... Granted
some of those sold to fans of the composers but I'd guess most sold to fans of
the films and television series...
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 4:13 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
In a
message dated 5/16/09 8:48:44 PM Central Daylight Time, hoknescards@ shaw.ca
writes:
why DO
you draw the line at comics?
*** Most of them are pure crap... "Viking" apes,
"Robin Hoodesque" apes, APE-NATION, and the list goes on... The only
ones I can say I really like(d) are the film adaptions... ***
What do I get from joining a group like this one? Well...lots of
things. For starters, it's great to know that I am not the only one that
lives breathes and will die with Planet of the Apes on my mind. Also, I
get a heads-up of new developments, so that I know what to look out for,
product-wise. Nobody at home enjoys the work I do on my dollies, so at
least I can share my work with some who can appreciate the love that went into
it. There are some very great discussions that are ape-related that I
have been lurking on. It's great to see somebody else's take or
idea. I love the photos that are shared here. They are great
references for my hobby. And it's great to see the various personalities
mingling with each other. And sometimes the discussions get pretty
hilarious and I actually smile or laugh out loud. It's just fun for me.
I actually never grew up with comics, so I am clueless as far as that
part of the world.
Jessica.
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I think so…
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 4:37 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Numbers
How many POTA Mego toy collectors do we think are out
there?
are they actually fans of the movies/tv OR just mego
fans ?
Is there a way we could promote our POTA
groups/products to Mego groups and sites?
Rich
First of all, you have to
realize one very important thing. Although I know it’s done with hand on
heart and “for the greater good”, there’s no way on earth, or any parallel
universe, that there’s 800 or so members on the POTA group.
When James and I ran the
DG we both took turns at “recruiting” and were so devastated by the lack of
people out there, we agreed to get family and friends to boost the
numbers. This eventually led to the pair of us even registering fake
YAHOO! And HOTMAIL (and any others we could) Email addresses and joining them
up to the DG. The goal was to inflate the numbers so the few fans that
did come across Yahoo! Would choose the DG over any other group.
I am not “bashing” the
POTA group here but I am saying they would have no more than maybe 120 genuine
POTA fans on the group. Nor am I sitting in judgement…it’s not for me to judge
someone who is simply trying to attract more POTA fans, particularly when I
have done the same thing in the past. I just decided one day to purge the
excess fakes and the DG numbers went from 600 to 100.
Personally, when I dealt
with Debbie at Fox, I seriously tried to sidestep numbers. I was able to
say my group consisted of almost a thousand POTA fans and that gave me a lot
more confidence than saying I represent 100 fans does.
However, being completely
honest, I am saying that the number is nowhere near a thousand – it’s not even
200 people.
Given the state of the
internet and that anyone who likes POTA would do a search and easily find the
groups, I think this is a good indication of the number of English speaking
fans out there.
So, I've just finished re-reading Revolution on the
Planet of the Apes--damn, I love that series--and I noticed a trend that was
both fascinating and disturbing. In the letters pages, I recognized the name of
practically everyone who had written in, as almost all of us (yes, a truncated
version of a letter from me was among them...and boy did I sound dorky) hailed
from this and/or the other Yahoo group.
On the one hand, that was kind of a cool experience. I've been re-reading much
of my collection over the past two years--Star Trek, Hellblazer, Star Wars,
Swamp Thing, Preacher and a bunch of other titles--and despite knowing a
letter-writer here and there, the majority were unknown to me. With Revolution,
though, almost everyone who wrote in is in our small communities.
Which leads me to the other hand in this scenario...are we really all there is?
Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now, that the only people who
would write in to a new comic book series would come from us--even though
combined, the POTA and DG groups only number something like a thousand members,
some of whom overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really. A thousand fans is a
VERY small group, compared to the millions that go to see any given film, or
the tens of thousands that purchase spinoff fiction--so how is it that almost
every person whose letter was published in those six issues can be found in
these two groups?
Are Planet of the Apes fans a dying breed?
(I've posted this question in both groups, as I'm interested in hearing a
number of different perspectives. )
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Yeah- he's selling a COPY so it's not the
original!!!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 7:49 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] 1974 Planet of
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Personally , I don't mind that the fan base is small.....we can keep closer track of each other and any new that comes up can be shared, checked out and certified within a short period of time.....
Star Wars and other shows sometimes seem like their fan base is TOO large!!!
Tim
From: rassmguy <handleyr@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:39:05 PM Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
So, I've just finished re-reading Revolution on the Planet of the Apes--damn, I love that series--and I noticed a trend that was both fascinating and disturbing. In the letters pages, I recognized the name of
practically everyone who had written in, as almost all of us (yes, a truncated version of a letter from me was among them...and boy did I sound dorky) hailed from this and/or the other Yahoo group.
On the one hand, that was kind of a cool experience. I've been re-reading much of my collection over the past two years--Star Trek, Hellblazer, Star Wars, Swamp Thing, Preacher and a bunch of other titles--and
despite knowing a letter-writer here and there, the majority were unknown to me. With Revolution, though, almost everyone who wrote in is in our small communities.
Which leads me to the other hand in this scenario...are we really all there is? Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now, that the only people who would write in to a new comic book series would come from
us--even though combined, the POTA and DG groups only number something like a thousand members, some of whom overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really. A thousand fans is a VERY small group, compared to the
millions that go to see any given film, or the tens of thousands that purchase spinoff fiction--so how is it that almost every person whose letter was published in those six issues can be found in these two groups?
Are Planet of the Apes fans a dying breed?
(I've posted this question in both groups, as I'm interested in hearing a number of different perspectives. )
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From: Tim "apefan"
Date: 5/17/2009
Subject: POTA on the brain
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According to Google alerts, POTA is very much on the brain of bloggers who have seen the new Star Trek as well as the LOST season finale.....(I
won't explain why in case some have not seen it!)
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Date: 5/17/2009
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This is why I’m so keen to see JJ Abrams
get involved.
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan" Sent: Monday, 18 May 2009 1:27 AM To: pota@yahoogroups.com; POTA DG Subject: [PotaDG] POTA on the
brain
According to Google alerts, POTA is very much on the brain
of bloggers who have seen the new Star Trek as well as the LOST season
finale.....( I won't explain why in case some have not seen it!)
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From: Wendy Kostora
Date: 5/17/2009
Subject: Re: So who liked Star Trek?
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My mother is probably the one of the small majority still around who had seen its first run of Star Trek
on TV. Although she is 76 years old and suffers from a storke induced dementia she really enjoyed the film. I find it astonishing that she can remember all the characters even though the
characters where played by other and younger actors, whereas she can't even remember my name. Thanks to Star Trek my mom had a fabulous and memorable afternoon.
Wendy
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com From: skintricks@... Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 07:48:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [PotaDG] So who liked Star Trek?
Loved it! My son who is not a fan LOVED it. Lacey (a friend) who HATES Trek, LOVED it.
I do but I won't
be sharing them as I would like to possibly try and make signed prints of
them available at some time in the future.
If I upload them
it sort of negates bothering to do that and as we've recently seen from other
Apes stuff of mine that is available online someone else is likely to try and
make money from them. I never have, the signed poster prints we did of Beware
the Beast were not sold for profit. Any money received was only to cover the
costs of packaging and postage etc. Same with the print runs of the
comics.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael & Sally Whitty Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:43
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Neil's
Pin-Ups in Revolution.
Yes they look awesome
don’t they!
Neil, do you have
some with the borders that you can share?
.
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From: Terry Hoknes
Date: 5/17/2009
Subject: Re: 1974 Planet of the Apes Blueprint - eBay (item 300313318643 end
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does anybody know more about this
item?
who made it?
was it used?
are there others?
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] 1974 Planet of the Apes Blueprint - eBay (item
300313318643 end time Jun-05-09 171528 PDT)
Yeah- he's selling a
COPY so it's not the original!!!
From:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 7:49
PM To:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] 1974 Planet of the Apes
Blueprint - eBay (item 300313318643 end time Jun-05-09 171528
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From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Wendy Kostora Sent: Monday, 18 May 2009 3:37 AM To: potadg@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] So who liked
Star Trek?
My mother
is probably the one of the small majority still around who had seen its
first run of Star Trek on
TV. Although she is 76 years old and suffers from a storke induced
dementia she really enjoyed the film. I find it astonishing that she can
remember all the characters even though the characters where played
by other and younger actors, whereas she can't even remember my
name. Thanks to Star Trek my
mom had a fabulous and memorable afternoon.
Wendy
To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
From: skintricks@cox. net
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 07:48:56 -0700
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] So who liked Star Trek?
Loved it! My son who is not a fan LOVED it.
Lacey (a friend) who HATES Trek, LOVED it.
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It looks genuine.
I have blueprints for the first movie's buildings
and the ship that came in that TV shopping network exclusive and they have the same
stamp on the bottom.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Monday, 18 May 2009 7:07 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] 1974 Planet
of the Apes Blueprint - eBay (item 300313318643 end time Jun-05-09 171528 PDT)

does anybody know more about this item?
who made it?
was it used?
are there others?
Subject: RE:
[PotaDG] 1974 Planet of the Apes Blueprint - eBay (item 300313318643 end time
Jun-05-09 171528 PDT)
Yeah- he's selling a COPY so it's not the original!!!
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 7:49 PM To:PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] 1974 Planet of
the Apes Blueprint - eBay (item 300313318643 end time Jun-05-09 171528 PDT)
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From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/17/2009
Subject: Re: Group Site Picture
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The grate Dave
Ballard was responsible for the excellent colours.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael & Sally Whitty Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:45
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Group
Site Picture
The colour looks
great – who did that?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 8:17
AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Group Site
Picture
I lifted that part of the panel
from a test colouring (not by me) done of that
page.
Neil T.
Foster
-----Original
Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally
Whitty Sent: Friday, May
15, 2009 6:55 PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Group Site
Picture
.
Neil,
The
colours look great –
where’s that
from?
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From: Michael & Sally Whitty
Date: 5/17/2009
Subject: Re: Group Site Picture
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Sounds like a magician! J
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Monday, 18 May 2009 7:39 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Group Site
Picture
The
grate Dave Ballard was responsible for the excellent colours.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Michael & Sally
Whitty Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:45
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Group Site
Picture
The colour looks great – who did that?
Michael
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 8:17 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Group Site
Picture
I lifted
that part of the panel from a test colouring (not by me) done of that page.
Neil
T. Foster
-----Original
Message----- From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Michael & Sally
Whitty Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:55 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Group Site
Picture
.
Neil,
The colours look great – where’s that from?
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From: Neil
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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So you didn't like Revolution on the POTA Mike?
Neil T. Foster
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
> *** Most of them are pure crap... "Viking" apes, "Robin Hoodesque" apes, APE-NATION, and the list goes on... The only ones I can say I really like(d) are the film adaptions... ***
Actor
Frank Aletter died 13 May 2009 of cancer. Born 14 January 1926 in
Queens, New York City, he acted on stage and in films, but was best
known for starring in the sitcoms Bringing Up Buddy (1960-61), and the short-lived It's About Time
(1966-67). In the latter role, he played an astronaut who travels back
in time to the Stone Age, and appeared in all 17 episodes. He also had
regular roles on The Cara Williams Show (1964-65) and Nancy (1970).
He was also a guest star in more than 100 television series. His sf/f/h appearances include: Automan (1984), Fantasy Island (1978 and 1979), Project U.F.O. (1978), The Bionic Woman (1978),
Kolchak: The Night Stalker (1975), The Invisible Man (1975), The Six Million Dollar Man (1975), Planet of the Apes (1974), My Favorite Martian (1963), and
The Twilight Zone (1963), as well as the film Now You See Him, Now You Don't (1972).
Aletter was married to actress and former Miss America Lee
Meriwether from 1958 to 1974, and married Estella Gelerter Hodes in
1984. She survives him, as do two daughters, actress Kyle Aletter, and
stuntwoman Lesley Aletter.
Somebody recently was looking for pics of the Addar scenes-in-a-bottle models... here's the Tree House.....just picked it up on ebay
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Date: 5/18/2009
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Just out of interest Jeff have you actually read these comics or are you basing your opinions of them on their titles and/or content?
Neil T. Foster
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> ditto
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mlccougar@...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
> In a message dated 5/16/09 8:48:44 PM Central Daylight Time, hoknescards@... writes:
> why DO you draw the line at comics?
> *** Most of them are pure crap... "Viking" apes, "Robin Hoodesque" apes, APE-NATION, and the list goes on... The only ones I can say I really like(d) are the film adaptions... ***
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Date: 5/18/2009
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There's also the
Forum of the Apes group as well, there seems to be a fair number of people
on that who don't seem to members of either of the 'big 2' Yahoo Apes groups,
though it does seem to be made up mostly of people who like to dress up as
Apes and not looney fans like us lot who like to dissect everything
'Ape'.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
rassmguy Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:39 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really all there
is?
Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now, that the only people who
would write in to a new comic book series would come from us--even though
combined, the POTA and DG groups only number something like a thousand
members, some of whom overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really.
.
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From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Actor Frank Aletter Dies [1 Attachment]
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Geez another one
gone. Maybe that's one of the reasons POTA seems to be dead, just about
anyone who had anything to do with it in the old days has passed
on.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan" Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:11 PM To: POTA;
POTA DG Subject: [PotaDG] Actor Frank Aletter Dies [1
Attachment]
He was Leuric in "Up Above the World So High"
Actor Frank Aletter Dies
By Kit Hawkins
May 18, 2009
Actor Frank Aletter died 13 May 2009 of cancer. Born 14 January 1926
in Queens, New York City, he acted on stage and in films, but was best
known for starring in the sitcoms Bringing Up Buddy (1960-61),
and the short-lived It's About Time (1966-67). In the latter
role, he played an astronaut who travels back in time to the Stone Age,
and appeared in all 17 episodes. He also had regular roles on The
Cara Williams Show (1964-65) and Nancy (1970).
He was also a guest star in more than 100 television series. His
sf/f/h appearances include: Automan (1984), Fantasy Island
(1978 and 1979), Project U.F.O. (1978), The Bionic Woman
(1978), Kolchak: The Night Stalker (1975), The Invisible
Man (1975), The Six Million Dollar Man (1975), Planet of the Apes (1974), My Favorite
Martian (1963), and The Twilight Zone (1963), as well as the
film Now You See Him, Now You Don't (1972).
Aletter was married to actress and former Miss America Lee Meriwether
from 1958 to 1974, and married Estella Gelerter Hodes in 1984. She
survives him, as do two daughters, actress Kyle Aletter, and stuntwoman
Lesley Aletter.
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From: Michael & Sally Whitty
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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I like to dress up as an ape….well,
if you call a French Maid an ape that is…..
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Monday, 18 May 2009 10:41 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
There's
also the Forum of the Apes group as well, there seems to be a fair number
of people on that who don't seem to members of either of the 'big 2' Yahoo Apes
groups, though it does seem to be made up mostly of people who like to
dress up as Apes and not looney fans like us lot who like to dissect everything
'Ape'.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of rassmguy Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:39 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really
all there is?
Are we so
small and isolated a group of fans now, that the only people who would write in
to a new comic book series would come from us--even though combined, the POTA
and DG groups only number something like a thousand members, some of whom
overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really.
.
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Message: 53572
From: mlccougar@aol.com
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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In a message dated 5/18/09 6:19:04 AM Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
So you
didn't like Revolution on the POTA
*** No, I didn't care for that either... I will say the artwork was
okay though... **
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From: jessica rotich
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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I am part of that forum, too. (I just can't have enough apes!!!) lots of really fantastic photos in addition to Kevin's recent ones. Even though we don't really dissect
everything ape, we dissect the costumes and props. I'm surprised that not many of the members there are members on the apes yahoo group. The Forum of the Apes is actually another great resource for my hobby,
which is practically anything ape related, most especially costumes and props...I recreate these in 1:6 and 1:9 scale. Bri from Apemania has been a very valuable resource on the Forum. Dave
Ballard's repaints of two ape busts from Apemania totally ROCK! You
guys should see his repaints...Dave should post them in his album
here.
Jessica.
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Neil Foster <
ntfoster@...> wrote:
There's also the
Forum of the Apes group as well, there seems to be a fair number of people
on that who don't seem to members of either of the 'big 2' Yahoo Apes groups,
though it does seem to be made up mostly of people who like to dress up as
Apes and not looney fans like us lot who like to dissect everything
'Ape'.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of
rassmguy Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:39 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Are we really all there
is?
Are we so small and isolated a group of fans now, that the only people who
would write in to a new comic book series would come from us--even though
combined, the POTA and DG groups only number something like a thousand
members, some of whom overlap? It's rather mind-boggling, really.
.
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From: nlmoxham
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Are we really all there?
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It doesn't bother me that much that there aren't more fans, I feel like I'm part of a well-kept secret. We're kinda like the mutants in Beneath, hidden from the outside world
but waiting to reveal ourselves to them. (That sounds wrong)
But what's funny is that I think POTA is one of the most recognisable franchises, in spite of that. A lot of people will know what a POTA ape looks like, it's right up there with the Daleks/Ewoks/Klingons in
people's consciousness and it's not going to be forgotten any time soon. Like others, I hope that a well-made new project could open the gates to a whole flood of new fans. In fact I'm sure it could, the
tricky part is getting something new to catch the imagination of today's more cynical audiences. POTA 2001 and Adventure Comics disappointed, Revolution was much better (and not just because Ty might be reading
this) but it didn't get the audience it deserved, or was it too rooted in POTA details?
The thing about Doctor Who/Star Wars/Star Trek is that they DO have very intricate complex, self-referencing stories and don't apologise for that, in fact it's hard core of fans thrive on it. In an ideal world
I'd like to see a new TV series commisioned first, to give it a chance to generate an audience. A movie is big gamble that can kill a franchise for a decade if it flops, as we have seen.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Personally , I don't mind that the fan base is small.....we can keep closer track of each other and any new that comes up can be shared, checked out and certified within a short period of time.....
> Star Wars and other shows sometimes seem like their fan base is TOO large!!!
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
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From: haydon.mark
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there?
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I agree i would love to see a new series of planet of the apes, but do you really think thats going to happen?
the other question that there isn't many fans left, well i think by the prices of everything pota on ebay shows there is still a market for it.
Has for original props from any of the movies even the tim Burton 2001 version you need to take out a second morgage for some of it.
If there wasn't many fans then these things would be cheap.
Mego, sideshow , medi com, comics and to get your hands on an original first edition hardback book i could get a good car for that.
So anyone who thinks its the case that its died in the water then i think maybe they have not taken into consideration the prices of things tells another story.
Just because not everyone has something to say does not mean they are not there.
I check all my messages from the group nearly every day but dont always have anything to say, also sometimes its hard to understand what some subjects are about because they dont follow the thread from previous message.
Anyway im still here.
Mark :)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> It doesn't bother me that much that there aren't more fans, I feel like I'm part of a well-kept secret. We're kinda like the mutants in Beneath, hidden from the outside world but waiting to reveal
ourselves to them. (That sounds wrong)
>
> But what's funny is that I think POTA is one of the most recognisable franchises, in spite of that. A lot of people will know what a POTA ape looks like, it's right up there with the Daleks/Ewoks/Klingons in
people's consciousness and it's not going to be forgotten any time soon. Like others, I hope that a well-made new project could open the gates to a whole flood of new fans. In fact I'm sure it could, the
tricky part is getting something new to catch the imagination of today's more cynical audiences. POTA 2001 and Adventure Comics disappointed, Revolution was much better (and not just because Ty might be reading
this) but it didn't get the audience it deserved, or was it too rooted in POTA details?
>
> The thing about Doctor Who/Star Wars/Star Trek is that they DO have very intricate complex, self-referencing stories and don't apologise for that, in fact it's hard core of fans thrive on it. In an ideal
world I'd like to see a new TV series commisioned first, to give it a chance to generate an audience. A movie is big gamble that can kill a franchise for a decade if it flops, as we have seen.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > Personally , I don't mind that the fan base is small.....we can keep closer track of each other and any new that comes up can be shared, checked out and certified within a short period of time.....
> > Star Wars and other shows sometimes seem like their fan base is TOO large!!!
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 53576
From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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I thought this
might have been you, explains a lot! ;-)
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael & Sally Whitty Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:28
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
I like to dress up as
an ape….well, if you call a French Maid an ape that is…..
.
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From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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Well I'm not after
reading recent posts on the Forum of the Apes about how that is the best
Apes group to participate on because these Yahoo groups are always fighting
and arguing.
A pity a few of
them don't actually join and see that we are not, instead of taking a couple of
peoples word as gospel.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jessica rotich Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:54 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we really all there
is?
I'm surprised that not many of the members there are members on the
apes yahoo group.
.
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From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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Message
That would be
nice.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jessica rotich Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:54 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we really all there
is?
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Message: 53579
From: jessica rotich
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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Attachments :
Holy smacks! This is so many degrees of wrong!!! LOL!!
Jessica.
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:
I thought this
might have been you, explains a lot! ;-)
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of
Michael & Sally Whitty Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:28
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
I like to dress up as
an ape….well, if you call a French Maid an ape that is…..
.
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From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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That would be
nice.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jessica rotich Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:54 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we really all there
is?
Dave Ballard's repaints
of two ape busts from Apemania totally ROCK! You guys should see his
repaints...Dave should post them in his album here.
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Message: 53581
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
File : /compilation of Ape movie reviews.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
Description : Hoffmans Guide To SF Horror & Fantasy Movies (91-92)
Whoever the artist was on that article, they did a great job on Escape. Wow.
Jess.
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM, <
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
File : /compilation of Ape movie reviews.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
Description : Hoffmans Guide To SF Horror & Fantasy Movies (91-92)
I think they
actually 'borrowed' those first 2 images from VHS covers of those movies, I
think they might have been French releases?
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
jessica rotich Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:44
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New
file uploaded to PotaDG
Whoever the artist was on that article, they did a great job on
Escape. Wow.
This email message is a notification to let you know
that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
File : /compilation of Ape movie reviews.jpg Uploaded
by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@bigpond. com> Description : Hoffmans
Guide To SF Horror & Fantasy Movies (91-92)
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
File : /compilation of Ape movie reviews.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
Description : Hoffmans Guide To SF Horror & Fantasy Movies (91-92)
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:56:39 PM Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to PotaDG
I think they
actually 'borrowed' those first 2 images from VHS covers of those movies, I
think they might have been French releases?
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
jessica rotich Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:44
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New
file uploaded to PotaDG
Whoever the artist was on that article, they did a great job on
Escape. Wow.
This email message is a notification to let you know
that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
File : /compilation of Ape movie reviews.jpg Uploaded
by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@bigpond. com> Description : Hoffmans
Guide To SF Horror & Fantasy Movies (91-92)
I also liked the Planet drawing, too, but I loved the Escape one better. I have not seen Cornelius drawn so nicely, even if it's from the VHS covers.
Jess.
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...
> wrote:
I'll be on the lookout!
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:56:39 PM Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to PotaDG
I think they
actually 'borrowed' those first 2 images from VHS covers of those movies, I
think they might have been French releases?
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
jessica rotich Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:44
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New
file uploaded to PotaDG
Whoever the artist was on that article, they did a great job on
Escape. Wow.
This email message is a notification to let you know
that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
File : /compilation of Ape movie reviews.jpg Uploaded
by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@bigpond. com> Description : Hoffmans
Guide To SF Horror & Fantasy Movies (91-92)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> I thought this might have been you, explains a lot! ;-)
>
>
>
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf
> Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:28 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I like to dress up as an ape..well, if you call a French Maid an ape
> that is...
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=53571/stime=1242653361/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
>
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From: Michael Whitty
Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Re: Are we really all there is?
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Us? Fight? NAH!
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Well I'm not after reading recent posts on the Forum of the Apes about
> how that is the best Apes group to participate on because these Yahoo
> groups are always fighting and arguing.
>
> A pity a few of them don't actually join and see that we are not,
> instead of taking a couple of peoples word as gospel.
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
] On Behalf
> Of jessica rotich
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:54 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
>
>
>
> I'm surprised that not many of the members there are members on the
> apes yahoo group.
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=53573/stime=1242672898/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
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Message: 53589
From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/19/2009
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I was wrong, they
are from German VHS releases not French. I have copies of them all (not great
quality I'm afraid) except for Planet. When I get the chance later I will upload
them to the files section.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:36 PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to
PotaDG
I'll be on the lookout!
From: Neil Foster
<ntfoster@bigpond. com> To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:56:39
PM Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New
file uploaded to PotaDG
I think they
actually 'borrowed' those first 2 images from VHS covers of those movies, I
think they might have been French releases?
Neil T.
Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
jessica rotich Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:44
AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New
file uploaded to PotaDG
Whoever the artist was on that article, they did a great job on
Escape. Wow.
This email message is a notification to let you know
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File : /compilation of Ape movie reviews.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
Description : Hoffmans Guide To SF Horror & Fantasy Movies (91-92)
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 8:57 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
I
thought this might have been you, explains a lot! ;-)
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Michael & Sally
Whitty Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 11:28
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
I like to dress up as an ape….well, if you call a French Maid
an ape that is…..
.
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Message: 53591
From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/19/2009
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One of my numerous
web image searches.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael & Sally Whitty Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:00
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
WHERE DID YOU GET
THIS?!?!?
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 8:57
AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we really all
there is?
I thought this might have been
you, explains a lot! ;-)
Neil T.
Foster
-----Original
Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally
Whitty Sent: Monday, May
18, 2009 11:28 PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we really all
there is?
I like to dress up
as an ape….well, if you call a French Maid an ape that is…..
.
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Message: 53592
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Date: 5/19/2009
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:59:39 AM Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS?!?!?
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 8:57 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
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Message: 53597
From: Tim "apefan"
Date: 5/19/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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I thought I had seen that Escape pic before....! But I wonder about the Planet pic....
From: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:49:18 AM Subject: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to PotaDG
Hello,
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Oh boy!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan" Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 11:24
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is? [1 Attachment]
reminds me of this that I found on flickr...... !!
From: Michael
& Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009
4:59:39 AM Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS?!?!?
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil
Foster Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 8:57 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:59:39 AM Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we really all there is?
WHERE DID YOU GET THIS?!?!?
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2009 8:57 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
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Message: 53603
From: Graham Hill
Date: 5/19/2009
Subject: Re: new foreign posters
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Just added these to the folder for you Tim,
I like the Beneath photo merge poster from Italy just because it gives away Taylor's fate so cavalierly...
Best,Graham.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote: >
> could someone add these to the foreign poster folders? I am not allowed! > Thanks! > > Beneath Argentina > Beneath Italian photobusta collage > Beneath Sweden
> Battle Argentina > Escape Sweden > Planet German > Planet Dutch > Battle Dutch >
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Message: 53604
From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/19/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Many of the images
used in the paintings for those VHS covers have actually been borrowed from the
old Marvel mags.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to
PotaDG
I thought I had seen that Escape pic before....! But I wonder about the
Planet pic....
From:
"PotaDG@yahoogroups .com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups. com> To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:49:18
AM Subject: [PotaDG] New file
uploaded to PotaDG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know
that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
From: Graham Hill <shop@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 1:57:01 PM Subject: [PotaDG] Re: new foreign posters
Just added these to the folder for you Tim,
I like the Beneath photo merge poster from Italy just because it gives away Taylor's fate so cavalierly.. .
Best,Graham.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote: >
> could someone add these to the foreign poster folders? I am not allowed! > Thanks! > > Beneath Argentina > Beneath Italian photobusta collage > Beneath Sweden
> Battle Argentina > Escape Sweden > Planet German > Planet Dutch > Battle Dutch >
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Message: 53606
From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/19/2009
Subject: Re: New Novel covers
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Cool, thanks Tim.
Are these ones that you own?
One of the main
POTA things I actually still collect myself are the different versions and
releases of Boulle's novel. Why, I don't know, just something that has evolved
over the years!
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:25 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] New Novel
covers
I just added covers of Boulle's novel from foreign lands.....
yes! I noticed that some of that looked familiar....it's borrowed from Issue 7
see pic
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:02:51 PM Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to PotaDG
Many of the images
used in the paintings for those VHS covers have actually been borrowed from the
old Marvel mags.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32 PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to
PotaDG
I thought I had seen that Escape pic before....! But I wonder about the
Planet pic....
From:
"PotaDG@yahoogroups .com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups. com> To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:49:18
AM Subject: [PotaDG] New file
uploaded to PotaDG
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know
that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.
I don't these except the Turkish one......I just found them online.....
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:22:58 PM Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Novel covers
Cool, thanks Tim.
Are these ones that you own?
One of the main
POTA things I actually still collect myself are the different versions and
releases of Boulle's novel. Why, I don't know, just something that has evolved
over the years!
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:25 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] New Novel
covers
I just added covers of Boulle's novel from foreign lands.....
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But not just that
one, all of those VHS covers have images that have been swiped from other
places, be it comic covers or posters etc..
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim
"apefan" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:29 AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to
PotaDG [1 Attachment]
yes! I noticed that some of that looked familiar.... it's borrowed
from Issue 7
see pic
From: Neil Foster
<ntfoster@bigpond. com> To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:02:51
PM Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New
file uploaded to PotaDG
Many of the
images used in the paintings for those VHS covers have actually been borrowed
from the old Marvel mags.
Neil T.
Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Tim "apefan" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:32
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New
file uploaded to PotaDG
I thought I had seen that Escape pic before....! But I wonder about the
Planet pic....
From: "PotaDG@yahoogroups
.com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups. com> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 5:49:18
AM Subject: [PotaDG] New
file uploaded to PotaDG
Hello,
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Subject: Re: Has anyone here ever meet JAMES WHITEMORE ? or have stories ab
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I wish I would have met James Whitmore, Kim Hunter and Roddy McDowell, but I didn't have the chance.
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hoknes <hoknescards@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:59 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Has anyone here ever meet JAMES WHITEMORE ? or have stories about him ?
I'd love to hear any fan stories or anything about
him
Just out of interest Jeff have you actually read these comics or are you
basing your opinions of them on their titles and/or content?
Neil T.
Foster
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff"
<skintricks@ ...> wrote: > > ditto > -----
Original Message ----- > From: mlccougar@.. . > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com >
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 10:24 PM > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Are we
really all there is?
> In a message dated 5/16/09 8:48:44 PM Central
Daylight Time, hoknescards@ ... writes: > why DO you draw the line
at comics? > *** Most of them are pure crap... "Viking" apes, "Robin
Hoodesque" apes, APE-NATION, and the list goes on... The only ones I can say I
really like(d) are the film adaptions... ***
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Message: 53614
From: Terry Hoknes
Date: 5/20/2009
Subject: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy scen
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Anything in the first movie that you don't
like?
Scenes that should have been omitted?
Dumb ideas, contradictions, timeline problems
?
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Message: 53615
From: jessica rotich
Date: 5/20/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
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Seeing Heston's underwear outlined under his white pants when they were treking through the desert.
When Heston bops Julius in the cage, and Julius falls down--the angle of his face when he was bopped is different when he falls down.
What the heck is a TX-9?
Did Dodge really need to uproot that poor little plant...and why was it so easy for to grab that way...plants don't grow well in very loose soil.
Melons growing up on trees.
Corn sown all the way to the edge of a plateau.
Where do they get the mangoes that Nova eats if they are in the NY area?
The thunder and lightning, but no rain, and only in the Forbidden Zone.
Those are the first things that come to mind.
Jessica.
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Terry Hoknes <
hoknescards@...> wrote:
Anything in the first movie that you don't like?
Scenes that should have been omitted?
Dumb ideas, contradictions, timeline problems ?
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Message: 53616
From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/20/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
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No it is
absolutely perfect, the greatest movie ever in the history of movies with not
one tiny little thing wrong with it.
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Terry Hoknes Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:07 PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Can
you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy scenes etc
?
Anything in the first movie that you don't
like?
Scenes that should have been
omitted?
Dumb ideas, contradictions, timeline problems
?
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Message: 53617
From: TZer0@aol.com
Date: 5/20/2009
Subject: Re: Has anyone here ever meet JAMES WHITEMORE ? or have stories ab
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Yeah, the week I spent with Kim was one of those time-of-your-life
moments. I hardly slept all week. Even when nothing was going on, I
was too amped up. Even on the last night when the power failed and we were
all in the lobby of the hotel, just chatting with her or watching her sleep was
so cool. I drove al the way home the next morning with no sleep at all,
and couldn't go to bed until I call and made sure she got home alright. My
only regret was, because they sent a flyer from the festival the year before, I
had missed a day.
In a message dated 5/19/2009 11:04:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
PofTAfan@... writes:
I wish
I would have met James Whitmore, Kim Hunter and Roddy McDowell, but I didn't
have the chance.
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Message: 53618
From: TZer0@aol.com
Date: 5/20/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
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The 3 Monkeys Bit.
I know they thought it was too much.
They were right. Should have cut it.
In a message dated 5/20/2009 12:07:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
hoknescards@... writes:
Anything in the first movie that you don't
like?
Scenes that should have been
omitted?
Dumb ideas, contradictions, timeline problems
?
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Message: 53619
From: Neil Foster
Date: 5/20/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
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I'd like the
accidentally blown off side panel that comes off when they blow the
spaceship hatch to be fixed.
Also when watching
the Blu-ray version at Michael's place I did notice that a few of the special
effects of the ship sinking and some of the matte paintings looked a bit dodgy.
I'd also like Dr.
Galen's mouth to actually move when he speaks one of his lines in the blood
transfusion scene!
Neil T. Foster
-----Original Message----- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
TZer0@... Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 5:49
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Can
you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
...
The 3 Monkeys Bit.
I know they thought it was too much.
They were right. Should have cut it.
In a message dated 5/20/2009 12:07:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
hoknescards@ shaw.ca writes:
Anything in the first movie that you don't
like?
Scenes that should have been
omitted?
Dumb ideas, contradictions, timeline problems
?
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Message: 53620
From: nlmoxham
Date: 5/20/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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If only Battle had been as good as this poster promises...
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nlmoxham Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 11:01
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file
uploaded to PotaDG
If only Battle
had been as good as this poster promises...
>
>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> group.
>
> File : /German VHS covers/german vhs cover 05 (battle).jpg
> Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@.. .>
> Description :
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
>
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
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Yeah, the three monkeys, and maybe also the trophy photographer - if they were going to make the apes primitive they should have been consistent about it.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> The 3 Monkeys Bit.
> I know they thought it was too much.
> They were right. Should have cut it.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/20/2009 12:07:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> hoknescards@... writes:
>
> Anything in the first movie that you don't like?
> Scenes that should have been omitted?
> Dumb ideas, contradictions, timeline problems ?
>
>
> **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in
> the U.S.
> (
http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002)
>
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Message: 53623
From: nlmoxham
Date: 5/20/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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:-o
Well if even THE battle had been as good as this poster promises...
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> What's wrong with Battle?!?!? ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> nlmoxham
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 11:01 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If only Battle had been as good as this poster promises...
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> > group.
> >
> > File : /German VHS covers/german vhs cover 05 (battle).jpg
> > Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@>
> > Description :
> >
> > You can access this file at the URL:
> > http://groups.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/German%20VHS%20covers/german%20v
> hs%20cover%2005%20%28battle%29.jpg>
> yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/German%20VHS%20covers/german%20vhs%20cover%2005
> %20%28battle%29.jpg
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> >
>
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Message: 53624
From: Michael & Sally Whitty
Date: 5/20/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
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Hmmm…..yeah the 3 “wise”
apes for sure – embarrassing!
The photographer….hmmm….I
liked that he had a pretty old-fashioned Box Brownie that seemed to indicate to
me they could be on the brink of some new technologies….
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nlmoxham Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 11:13
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Can you
think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy ...
Yeah, the three monkeys, and maybe also the trophy
photographer - if they were going to make the apes primitive they should have
been consistent about it.
>
>
> The 3 Monkeys Bit.
> I know they thought it was too much.
> They were right. Should have cut it.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/20/2009 12:07:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> hoknescards@ ... writes:
>
> Anything in the first movie that you don't like?
> Scenes that should have been omitted?
> Dumb ideas, contradictions, timeline problems ?
>
>
> ************ **Recession- proof vacation ideas. Find free things
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nlmoxham Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 11:15
PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file
uploaded to PotaDG
:-o
Well if even THE battle had been as good as this poster promises...
> nlmoxham
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 11:01 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If only Battle
had been as good as this poster promises...
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com>
com,
> PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
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