Greetings Apedom,

I've been carefully reading all the discussions on the APE remake
scandal. (It is much more interesting than the Clinton sex scandal.) So
here's my two cents worth.

JP said an APE remake couldn't be bad. I would love to think so, but the
way SciFi Hollywood films have been going, I just don't know. I can
count GREAT Science Fiction films made this decade on one hand. There
have been alot of so so SciFi, and even more utter @*%#$! Never the
less, I'd rather see a bad APEs film than nothin'.

Also, Cameron, along with Lucas and Spielberg, is one of the greatest
American SciFi film makers of the last twenty years. His dark style
would have been perfect for a new APES film. It hurts me to learn he is
a no good quiter.

There is alot of great story potential at many points along the POTA
TIMELINE. If not a new APES film, then how about some original APE
novels. The bookshops are full of original STAR TREK and STAR WARS
novels. Why no APES??? After STAR WARS and STAR TREK, PLANET OF THE APES
is the biggest SciFi movie franchise of all time. POTA shouldn't be such
a distant third. Can anyone out there write? I'd be the first to buy an
original APE novel!

Also, JP, are you refering to the Ursus, Zaius, Cornelius 12" figures,
or, by some miracle, are the Zira, Taylor, and Slave Gorilla 12" figures
out already? (There is a picture of these on Chris' APE page.)

Ape On Dudes,

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reece wrote:

> Also, JP, are you refering to the Ursus, Zaius, Cornelius 12" figures,
> or, by some miracle, are the Zira, Taylor, and Slave Gorilla 12" figures
> out already? (There is a picture of these on Chris' APE page.)

Yes, those are the three I was referring to, though the new ones are in
the plans, as I hear. Again, I have digital pic's of these guys also,
if anyone's into collecting ape pictures/scans. :) Actually, though I
don't have the time, I think it would be neat to make a photo-comic by
taking pictures of these characters in different poses playing out a
story... frame after frame... maybe the apes attacking a corn field
full of Barbies??? (they're the same basic size). Well, I know, kooky
idea... but if I were younger and had the time, I'd probably play with
the idea a bit.

You're right, the ape movie "could" be bad... but somehow I think they'd
do a good job if they ever got to it. And, if Cameron did it, you know
it would be good. Here's a thought that might LIVEN UP some discussion
here: Fantasy Cast.

Anyone care to take a stab at re-casting the film (just for fun) with a
fantasy cast? Like, how about if it had been made as a comedy and Dr.
Zauis was played by Rodney Dangerfield... and Nova were Daisy Fuentes?
Hah ha... okay, so it's still early in the morning Sunday, and my mind
is not totally awake yet. :)

Ape-On, You'all

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Great topic JP.... Here is my fantasy cast for a new APEs flix.

As a human lead I'd like to see (in decending order):

1. Mel Gibson
2. Brad Pitt
3. Tom Cruise
4. Kurt Russell
5. Nick Cage
6. Denzel Washington

As a Zaius-type character I'd like to see:

1. Anthony Hopkins
2. Sean Connery

As a Ursus/Aldo type character:

1. Dennis Hopper
2. Gene Hackman
3. James Earl Jones
4. James Caan

As a Cornelius type character:

1. Jeremy Irons
2. Liam Neeson

As a Zira type character:

1. Holly Hunter
2. Meg Ryan


Ape On,

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jpctqm@... wrote:

>
> The attitude of "I don't want a remake" seems quite odd for ape fans.
> Seems to me, even if it isn't good -- it can't change the way we feel
> about the original(s), can it?

No, but it will affect the way an ebntire generation thinks about
"Planet of the Apes" - even if it sucks (an almost certainty - see
below), it will be thought of by many as the definitive version if it's
successful. That's what I don't want.

>And, today with the improved special
> effects and the [outlandish] big budgets... well, how can it be anything
> but great?

Well . . . have you seen Godzilla? Armageddon? Big, empty, expensive
pieces of garbage.

I've read both scripts for the remake - they're utterly AWFUL. They
contain no trace of the satire or drama seen in the first film.

Phil

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There are novelizations of all of the POTA movies on Ebay according to
Steve(Alexander). I agree with Reece, I don't really care if the new film is
bad, its better than nothing, I think its time they made another one, if it is
bad I doubt it will screw up the image of the other POTA movies, people expect
bad sequels and if it is good it would just make the rest of the ape movie
look better.
I doubt Fox is going to make the movie though, most big budget sci-fi movies
made fairly recently didn't do that great, Waterworld, Soldier, and I'm sure
there are some others I can't think of right now.

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Heres my fantasy cast also there is a biography of Roddy McDowell on A&E
tonight sometime around 9:00 or 10:00 I think I'm not absolutely sure it will
be on.
Taylor:Kurt Russel or Al Pacino
Zira:Meg Ryan or Glen Close
Cornelius: Kevin Cleine
Dr. Zauis: Marlon Brando
General Ursus: Bruce Willis
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BlakerG@... wrote:

>
> I don't really care if the new film is
> bad, its better than nothing,

That's exactly why most movies suck these days. Audiences don't demand
better products.

>I think its time they made another one, if it is
> bad I doubt it will screw up the image of the other POTA movies, people expect
> bad sequels and if it is good it would just make the rest of the ape movie
> look better.

You realize it's going to be a remake, though, right? It's not a
sequel.

> I doubt Fox is going to make the movie though, most big budget sci-fi movies
> made fairly recently didn't do that great-

Yeah, but Fox is making another new sci-fi film that ties in with
another sci-fi film series from teh 70's, and they think will do okay,
so they're more than likely willing to give a POTA remake a shot.
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Incrediable Dr. Zauis and Cornelius statues at:
http://www.doll-hobby.com/soon.htm


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>There is alot of great story potential at many points along the POTA
>TIMELINE. If not a new APES film, then how about some original APE
>novels. The bookshops are full of original STAR TREK and STAR WARS
>novels. Why no APES??? After STAR WARS and STAR TREK, PLANET OF THE APES
>is the biggest SciFi movie franchise of all time. POTA shouldn't be such
>a distant third. Can anyone out there write? I'd be the first to buy an
>original APE novel!

Funny you should mention that Reece --- because i have written two chapters
of an ape novel, set AFTER the first movie end and before the 2nd one
begins. I will be trying to explain the space ship that took Zira +
Cornelius back to earth (and how Taylor was involved in that!) . . . as
well as going into the Heresy trial that Dr. Zaius threatened the two of
them with. I fully agree with you that there should be Ape books . . . I
am trying to figure out how to find an agent to find a publisher (thanks
Jeff, for your suggestions...)

- Armando (still knows how to write in English)


By the way, Reece . . . are you in Japan?



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>There are novelizations of all of the POTA movies on Ebay according to
>Steve(Alexander). I agree with Reece, I don't really care if the new film is

I don't know what they are charging on E-bay . . . but I have multiple
copies of all the books, that I would be willing to sell off pretty
reasonably. If you are interested, contact me directly (off list)

- Armando (horder of man's paper products)



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>Great topic JP.... Here is my fantasy cast for a new APEs flix.
>
>As a human lead I'd like to see (in decending order):
>
>1. Mel Gibson
>2. Brad Pitt
>3. Tom Cruise
>4. Kurt Russell
>5. Nick Cage
>6. Denzel Washington

UGH! what an awful list. those are almost all slick Hollywood types. How
could they pull off the cynicsm needed for the role? Cage would be doing
his usual "Elvis" except he could branch out into "Elvis meets the Apes".
Ugh, I wish I could provide you with a better choice, but unfortunately
nobody comes to mind.

>As a Cornelius type character:
>1. Jeremy Irons
>2. Liam Neeson

I think Irons would be interesting. Because he has the sort of sympathetic
nature that might work well for Cornelius (but WHO would he have sex with
--- Jeremy Irons ALWAYS has to have a sensual scene in his movies!) . . .



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Armando,

I bet a few of us out here in Apedome would love to proof read your APEs
saga in the making. Sounds interesting.

Also, what condition are your APE novelizations, and how much are you
asking??? My copies are falling apart and I need some 'fresh" ones!

Yes, I'm in Japan... But I'm still looking for those Japanese MOC Mego
figures. I've found all the Japanese movie poster though!

Ape On,
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I have a contact who is a writer at Fox and I asked him about the Cameron situation on the POTA movie. He said the rumor that he heard was that Cameron was determined to take POTA into a totally new direction and that he was not interested in a remake, which is what Fox wanted. The company wanted him to remain true to the original movie and they did not like the direction Cameron was going with his storyline. Cameron supposedly told Fox that his efforts should be spent in promoting new ideas, not repolishing old ones.

That's the rumor...if it's true or not...who knows. The fact is, no new movie anytime soon (sigh). Here's one thought...if he's so into new ideas, why is working on a script for True Lies 2?

Also, the 2 POTA paperbacks I got on Ebay were about $3.50 each, not bad...shipping's about $3.00.

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Armando, how long do you plan on making your novel?
Speaking of which about six monthes ago, a representative from Random House
or Little Brown (I'm not sure) emailed me asking if I knew where to find any
copies of "Monkey Planet", because she said her company was interested in
reprinting the book, and she figured I would know because of my webpage.

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Hey Armando,

That new piece you're working on sound great! Any chance of
getting a sneak preview of it....? I'm really interested, especially on
how you plan on explaining a few things.



Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....

>Hey Armando,
>
> That new piece you're working on sound great! Any chance of
>getting a sneak preview of it....? I'm really interested, especially on
>how you plan on explaining a few things.

Thank you for your interest. I am searching for the proper way to copywrite
what I have written so far (one must be paranoid!) and then I will somehow
share. Would you all prefer if I post it here on the list, or just send it
to individuals who ask . . .

- Armando (only two chapters in, remember!)



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Armando,
Writer's Guild of America (WGA) is the proper method for protecting
your manuscript. They charge a ten dollar fee and that protects it for
ten years. You do not have to be a member of the Guild to register work
through them and it is THE MOST efficient and secure way to protect your
writing.

JP

> Thank you for your interest. I am searching for the proper way to copywrite
> what I have written so far (one must be paranoid!) and then I will somehow
> share. Would you all prefer if I post it here on the list, or just send it
> to individuals who ask . . .
>
> - Armando (only two chapters in, remember!)
>
>

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I'd like to see a copy of your chapters, please.

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TBS going 'Ape' over new show

By Richard Katz

NEW YORK (Variety) - As if to prove that anyone can get a job in showbiz,
TBS Superstation has started production on
``Channel of the Apes,'' a comedy series featuring a group of chimpanzees
who run their own television network.

``Channel of the Apes'' (working title), an expansion of TBS' ``Monkey-ed
Movies'' shorts, will premiere on the cable
network in June 1999.

The ``Monkey-ed Movies'' shorts featured costumed chimpanzees and
orangutans acting out scenes from Hollywood's
most popular movies including ``Titanic,'' ``Good Will Hunting'' and ``As
Good As It Gets.''

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BlakerG@... wrote:

> >
> > I don't really care if the new film is
> > bad, its better than nothing,
>
> That's exactly why most movies suck these days. Audiences don't demand
> better products.
>
> >I think its time they made another one, if it is
> > bad I doubt it will screw up the image of the other POTA movies, people expect
> > bad sequels and if it is good it would just make the rest of the ape movie
> > look better.
>
> You realize it's going to be a remake, though, right? It's not a
> sequel.
>
> > I doubt Fox is going to make the movie though, most big budget sci-fi movies
> > made fairly recently didn't do that great-
>
> Yeah, but Fox is making another new sci-fi film that ties in with
> another sci-fi film series from teh 70's, and they think will do okay,
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I'd like to know where the person got their information about the movie being a remake when most talk is about Cameron writing a new script!!

BlakerG@... wrote:

> >
> > I don't really care if the new film is
> > bad, its better than nothing,
>
> That's exactly why most movies suck these days. Audiences don't demand
> better products.
>
> >I think its time they made another one, if it is
> > bad I doubt it will screw up the image of the other POTA movies, people expect
> > bad sequels and if it is good it would just make the rest of the ape movie
> > look better.
>
> You realize it's going to be a remake, though, right? It's not a
> sequel.
>
> > I doubt Fox is going to make the movie though, most big budget sci-fi movies
> > made fairly recently didn't do that great-
>
> Yeah, but Fox is making another new sci-fi film that ties in with
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I sell lots of apes collectibles and I sometimes wonder if many apes fans are simply into collectibles and quickly forget about the movies altogether. Merchandise seems so far away from the actual stories etc. There is big money being made in the apes products with no sight anywhere of charlton heston, the cast or crew of the movies ever being mentioned or remembered. Just curious to hear some feedback from others on this topic which is never addressed. Check out the POTA International Fan club website at www.dlcwest.com/~comicsape/ape.htm

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In the news I heard about the movie it was never made clear wether it was a
remake or an entirely different movie. I just thought Cameron would revamp the
original movie and add a couple of twists. Happy Holidays to everyone.

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Terry Hoknes wrote:

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> I'd like to know where the person got their information about the movie being a remake when most talk is about Cameron writing a new script!!

I read several posts describing Cameron's outline, and it sounded like a
remake to me. Fox wants another franchise, and to do that, they'd have
to start from scratch, because asking a modern audience to be familiar
with the existing Apes timeline and going to see a sixth would be too
great a gamble for a large-budget production. Financially, it doesn't
make sense.

Even if Cameron DID want to build on the existing stories, perhaps this
is why he left the preoject. Fox wants a REMAKE.

>
> BlakerG@... wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't really care if the new film is
> > > bad, its better than nothing,
> >
> > That's exactly why most movies suck these days. Audiences don't demand
> > better products.
> >
> > >I think its time they made another one, if it is
> > > bad I doubt it will screw up the image of the other POTA movies, people expect
> > > bad sequels and if it is good it would just make the rest of the ape movie
> > > look better.
> >
> > You realize it's going to be a remake, though, right? It's not a
> > sequel.
> >
> > > I doubt Fox is going to make the movie though, most big budget sci-fi movies
> > > made fairly recently didn't do that great-
> >
> > Yeah, but Fox is making another new sci-fi film that ties in with
> > another sci-fi film series from teh 70's, and they think will do okay,
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I would like to talk to any collectors of POA movie props and etc's.
Not really interested in the merchandise, thanx.

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Hi there,
I'm an Aussie APE collector with a pretty comprehensive collection but am looking to hook up with other collectors in the hope that I might be able find more stuff ( sounds good in theory).
I also work for 2oth Century Fox Home Entertainment here in Australia and come across snippets of info on upcoming APE activity. i.e: Inkworks ( I think) will be releasing all new collector cards next spring. Also Hasbro may be releasing a series of 5 seven inch figures ( if interest is strong from retailers at Toy fair). So there you go, incase you didn't already know.
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Hey everybody,

Now that the holidays are over and I have a little bit of money in
my wallet, I think I'm finally going to buy the POTA soundtrack. I've
wanted to do this for a while, and I've come to the conclusion that it
isn't carried in any stores around my area. My next alternative is to
buy it on-line, and I was wondering if anybody has purchased the POTA
soundtrack on-line before. I've looked around a little bit, and the
best deal I found was at Pentagon on-line (about $13.98 when you add
shipping and all that fun stuff). I've never heard of them before, so
if anybody either knows if they're safe and reliable, and/or knows where
I can find I better deal, I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks!



Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....

You may want to try Amazon.com. They carry a wide selection of CDs.
Try to get the recent release that contains selections from Escape, as
well as the original soundtrack.

Ross T. wrote:

>
> Hey everybody,
>
> Now that the holidays are over and I have a little bit of money in
> my wallet, I think I'm finally going to buy the POTA soundtrack. I've
> wanted to do this for a while, and I've come to the conclusion that it
> isn't carried in any stores around my area. My next alternative is to
> buy it on-line, and I was wondering if anybody has purchased the POTA
> soundtrack on-line before. I've looked around a little bit, and the
> best deal I found was at Pentagon on-line (about $13.98 when you add
> shipping and all that fun stuff). I've never heard of them before, so
> if anybody either knows if they're safe and reliable, and/or knows where
> I can find I better deal, I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks!
>
> Ross (Dr. Milo)
>
> Smoothness is all....
>
>

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Actor-director-writer Don Taylor, who played
Elizabeth Taylor's bridegroom in
``Father of the Bride'' and went on to helm such features as ``Escape From
the Planet of the Apes'' and ``The
Island of Dr. Moreau,'' died Tuesday at the UCLA Medical Center in L.A. of
heart failure. He was 78.

Taylor starred opposite Barry Fitzgerald as the younger detective in the
1948 film-noir classic ``The Naked City.''
In 1950, he appeared in the comedy classic ``Father of the Bride,'' which
starred Miss Taylor (not related) and
Spencer Tracy.

Born in Pittsburgh, Taylor began acting in college stage productions at
Penn State University, where he studied
speech and drama.

On the recommendation of Penn State alumni Julius and Phil Epstein -- the
screenwriters of ``Casablanca'' who
had seen him in a college production -- Taylor made his way to Hollywood
(by hitchhiking) in 1942 after graduation.
MGM signed the clean-cut, all-American Taylor to a seven-year contract.

After several minor roles, Taylor enlisted in the Air Force, where he was
recruited by Irving ``Swifty'' Lazar for a lead
role in the Moss Hart-directed Army-Air Force production of Hart's play
``Winged Victory.''

Following his discharge from the service, Taylor resumed his motion picture
work full time, landing a top role in the
trend-setting crime drama ``The Naked City.''

Taylor's other film acting credits include ``Stalag 17'' (1953), ``Father's
Little Dividend'' (1951), ``Battleground'' (1949),
``Flying Leathernecks'' (1951), ``The Bold and the Brave'' (1956) and
``I'll Cry Tomorrow'' (1955).

After moving behind the camera, Taylor directed 15 motion pictures,
including ``Ride the Wild Surf'' (1964), ``Escape
from the Planet of the Apes'' (1971), ``Tom Sawyer'' (1973), ``Echoes of a
Summer'' (1976), ``The Island of Dr. Moreau'' (1977),
``Damien: Omen II'' (1978) and ``The Final Countdown'' (1980).

Taylor's television directing credits include episodes of ``The Wild, Wild
West,'' ``Night Gallery,'' ``Cannon'' and
``Alfred Hitchcock Presents.''

As a writer, Taylor was nominated for an Emmy for the NBC television show
``The Night They Tore Down Riley's Bar.''

Last year, Taylor wrote and directed the play ``Silver Buckles On His
Knee,'' which starred Mariette Hartley when it was
produced by the University of Las Vegas Theater Group.

Taylor is survived by his wife, actress Hazel Court Taylor; two daughters,
Avery Taylor Moore and Anne Taylor Fleming;
a son, Jonathan David Taylor; stepdaughter Sally Walsh; sister Janet
Tuttle; and a granddaughter.

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This list was recommended to me by Steve Temple, who occasionally posts here. I will be very interested in hearing more about one of my favorite sci-fi movies (I really only regard the first one as a true classic).
My name is Eric Paddon, I'm a grad student at Ohio University and I am also the author of an original POTA story that represents my own take on a different reality following the events of the first movie. It is a crossover story with the universe of another favorite sci-fi saga of mine Battlestar Galactica, and has been posted in installments on the archive of the Battlestar Galactica Fanfic List, which can be found at www.oct.net/~red/piper/index.html I have made a strenuous effort to maintain continuity and consistency with the first movie and also provide some further background insights on the characters.
I still hope that if a new POTA movie is ever made that it will follow up on the original series (which I don't think were given a proper sense of closure) instead of remaking it in an offbeat fashion.



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All you Hardcores out there better get a look at this:

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I was just curious if this list is still going on. Haven't heard much in a
while.

Latest remake news - one source says that Cameron left the project after
reading Graham (SPEED) Yost's script. This makes no sense, since Cameron
was allegedly writing his own script. A newer source says Yost was never
involved, and that Fox is looking for new writers. Any of you guys have an
agent?

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Nobody here but us sleepy apes...
Seriously though, I just got back from Atlanta and haven't had much time to post anything new. I just called my contact over at 20th Cent. Theatricals and he said that things were quiet regarding the remake...so nothing new to report. Maybe we can go into suspended animation and wake back up when the movie is finished. Ha.

Later,
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Quick question all,

As I was watching the end to the 1st POTA movie, my Dad came home
(mild POTA fan). We started talking about the movie a bit, and he said
that Charleton Heston was wearing a wig while playing the role of
Taylor. I find this pretty hard to swallow. Anybody know if Heston did
or did not wear a wig?



Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....

I know in his autobiography, he states that the "fall" they made for him
in Beneath didn't match the hair in the first film very well. A fall is
like a toupee.

Ross T. wrote:

>
> Quick question all,
>
> As I was watching the end to the 1st POTA movie, my Dad came home
> (mild POTA fan). We started talking about the movie a bit, and he said
> that Charleton Heston was wearing a wig while playing the role of
> Taylor. I find this pretty hard to swallow. Anybody know if Heston did
> or did not wear a wig?
>
> Ross (Dr. Milo)
>
> Smoothness is all....
>
>

Sorry to bother you with this, but since you're into POTA I thought I'd
point it out to you:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=61635302


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Just an FYI - Planet of the Apes as American Myth has just been released in
softcover - it looks to be an interesting read, and contains stills from
all five films depicting scenes that were cut from the films (Taylor's
swimming during his escape/chase scene, a pre-credit shot from Escape,
showing the inside of the ship as it approaches Earth, etc.). Check it
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I highly recommend anyone interested in POTA figs. to check out the site Philip mentioned last month. The custom Taylor figure was really cool...which by the way, has anyone seen the newest 12 inch Signature Series in the stores yet?
It's the new ones including Zira, Gorilla Slave and Taylor in his flight suit.
Has anyone else heard anything on the smaller action figures that Hasbro was going to release?

Thought I'd throw out a topic for discussion since it's been so quiet lately.
We know that the astronauts used Hasslein's Theory to supposedly travel to a distant star system. Does anyone have any theories regarding the actual physics driving the ship to its destination? Did they use an Ion drive or some other means of propulsion?

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> I highly recommend anyone interested in POTA figs. to check out the site Philip mentioned last month. The custom Taylor figure was really cool...which by the way, has anyone seen the newest 12 inch Signature Series in the stores yet?

Not til the summer - scroll down after this page loads-

http://members.aol.com/palfile/page/index.htm

And go to Tomart.com to see the smaller 6" figures.

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Could someone please send me a .jpg of the 6 inch figures? AOL isn't
accessing the site. Thanks!
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I couldn't access the site from Japan either. Somebody send us all a
JPEG of those six inch figures. (I hope they have my beloved Nova
figure!)

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reece wrote:

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> I couldn't access the site from Japan either. Somebody send us all a
> JPEG of those six inch figures. (I hope they have my beloved Nova
> figure!)

The 6" figures are: Taylor, Cornelius, Zaius, Gorilla Soldier, and what
appears to be the sergeant from the TV series (gorilla soldier with
silver stripes on his vest). This same TV soldier has replaced the
Conquest Slave Ape in the 12" line.

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Does anyone know where I could find copies of the POTA TV episodes or copies
of the animated series?

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>Does anyone know where I could find copies of the POTA TV episodes or

copies

>of the animated series?

They're on Ebay all the time.

Thanks goes out to Philip for the figure update...I wonder why they changed the gorilla slave to the Gorilla Sgt? It would have been cool if they did both.
I noticed the new 12" line now comes with display stands...about time.
I wasn't too impressed with Zira, but I agree with Reece...bring on Nova!

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Personals

OCM/F (Orange County Mensa, Female) seeks M/SO (Male Sentient Orangutan) living in the 40th century for fun, frolic and long walks along the beach. It helps if you're the Minister of Science and Chief Defender of the Faith, and have a strong desire to battle Charlton Heston whilst exterminating the human race. Do you remember me? We met at Ape City's assembly meeting; you glared at me, muttered "evil human," and then you started to recite: "Beware the beast man, for he is the devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed�shun him, for he is the harbinger of death." I was entranced, I was lost forever. What is this thing called love? P.S. I'll bring the flea dip, you bring the bananas. - Sincerely, Lovelorn in Santa Ana, CA

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Hi, how's it going? Can I come to your chat room?
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We have a chat room?

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DON'T email me - email the person listed below.

>>I have Battle for the Planet of the Apes with added scenes which are not
>>in the home video version. If interested email me LMC10@...

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Everyone--
If you want an up-to-date site on the new movie, go to this website:

http://www.cinescape.com/links/mvplanetapesreturnnr.html"

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Hi, everyone!

You believe in Cameron ideas for a PLANET OF THE APES new movie?

Adami
tinarosa@...


P.S.: I am Luiz Saulo Adami, from Brazil, O ÚNICO HUMANO BOM É AQUELE QUE
ESTÁ MORTO! author. I am interested in exchange my book for PLANET OF THE
APES international items. Please, e-mail me!

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Assunto: [pota] New Movie

>Everyone--
>If you want an up-to-date site on the new movie, go to this website:
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>http://www.cinescape.com/links/mvplanetapesreturnnr.html"
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Dear all,
For what it's worth, please find attached my current wants list for APE
items. I have a pretty comprehensive collection but am looking for the odder
items. If you are able to assist, I'd love to here from you. I work for 2oth
Century Fox Home Ent. here in Australia and we are preparing for the video
release of the THX versions in APE-ril. I hope you can open the attached.
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Good afternoon! Havent seen any messages yet but I thought I'd
introduce myself.

I'm Steve Meakin in London I've been a fan since I can remember he's
some proof!

First Question: Where did I get the name General Urko from when now I
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Steve,
General Urko was the gorilla militant from the television series of 1974.
General Ursus was the fanatical gorilla from "Beneath the Planet of the Apes".

I believe they changed the name to Urko when the series came out because it was easier to pronounce when the actors had the prosthetic makeup on.

Glad to meet you and welcome!

Steve (Alexander)

>>> <Steve.Meakin@...> - 3/5/99 7:34 AM >>>

Good afternoon! Havent seen any messages yet but I thought I'd
introduce myself.

I'm Steve Meakin in London I've been a fan since I can remember he's
some proof!

First Question: Where did I get the name General Urko from when now I
hear of Ursus? am I simply mistaken?

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Correect. However, to offer a more plot fititng explaiation, i say that Urko
was Ursuss' predecesser, and Zaius was whom Dr Zaius' parents named him after.

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Andrew Parmet just updated his apes site at Spleenworld.com with a cool new interface and some great ape humor. He is also posting some of Sam Hamm's old movie script (if anyone is interested).

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Hi, I'm Rick, new to the group. I was curious if anyone has or has seen a
plate from the Planet of the Apes. Christopher Sausville mentions it in his
guide but I've never seen it anywhere. I have the mug, cup and bowl but I'd
really like the plate. Anyone have one for sale or trade? Thanks.

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From Cinescape Insider (March 11, 1999)

Apes' Set For 2001
Although Fox's presentation at ShoWest was dominated by Star Wars:
Episode One -- The Phantom Menace, studio honcho Bill Mechanic
found time to talk about some of Fox's other hot properties. Much to the
Insider's pleasure, Cinescape reporter Frank Kurtz told me that the exec
announced that the Planet of the Apes remake will finally make it into
theaters for Summer 2001. The audience's response to the announcement
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The following is an exerpt from the online magizene " Zentertainment. To
subscribe, go to www.ZENtertainment.com

<<
Speaking at SHOWEST, FOX's Bill Mechanic announced
the PLANET OF THE APES feature film is scheduled for
a summer 2001 release. Additionally, CINESCAPE reports
the film is currently being developed by William
Broyles Jr., (Apollo 13, Entrapment, Cast Away).
http://www.cinescape.com >>


Looks like we'll have to wait a while longer for the new movie


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My sister says she's seen a TV commercial for Serta mattresses featuring a man and someone playing Dr. Zira. Can anyone verify this, or is it a case of monkeyshines?

I was reading today's (March 19th) L.A. Times article about a Frenchman who skated around the world. Twice the article referred to China's "Forbidden Zones." So, what does this make Chairman Mao...the original Lawgiver?

To quote Crow T. Robot from Mystery Science Theater 3000: "Do the apes know they're filming in the Forbidden Zone?"

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dagrushon@... wrote:

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> My sister says she's seen a TV commercial for Serta mattresses featuring a man and someone playing Dr. Zira. Can anyone verify this, or is it a case of monkeyshines?

I've seen it - the guy is dreaming, but the viewer doesn't immediately
know that. Something about "With Serta you can (something fantastic),
or play chess with Cornelius, from Planet of the Apes. And it shows a
guy in a suit sitting on the beach playing chess with Cornelius - and
it's the most accurate recreation of POTA I've ever seen in a spoof yet.

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I've always loved pota the films,which it has to be said got progressively
worse as the series went on (i still like them of course )and the t.v series
was good,it was repeated about four years ago in the u.k which gave me a
chance to tape it.

But as much as i like pota the thought of a new film fills me with
dread.After all the piss poor remkes off the past few years would it not be
better to let this great series alone ??

II guess they'll say they can do the makeup better now, but i always liked
the old makeup, i thought most of the apes looked great.A few secondary apes
looked a bit dodgy paticularly some members of the council meeting in
Beneath..

What i really mean is would it be nicer to have fond memories orf this great
institution then grimace at the mention or thought of a fucked up remake ??

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>I've always loved pota the films,which it has to be said got progressively
>worse as the series went on (i still like them of course )and the t.v series
>was good,it was repeated about four years ago in the u.k which gave me a
>chance to tape it.

Steve, as I often do here on the list . . . I have to defend the later
movies. I think that "Conquest" was the second best film in the series,
from a 'concept' perspective. And 'battle for' was third best. Sure, they
had lousy budgets . . . but they WERE trying to tell interesting stories
that were also relevant to the race relationships of America at the time.

I think the 2nd film was a hodge podge (they had to basically start the
story over and reintroduce the concept for the first half of the movie . .
. before they could move on), and Heston was an overacting buffon!


- Armando (with his two cents)








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I have to agree with Armando (Sam) on the progression of the series as well. They did manage to bring the series full-circle and I think they did a fair job considering the ever-decreasing budget they were given. I also understand why a lot of people are worried about a remake, but I'm trying to remain optimistic and hope that Fox doesn't screw this one up. I've read the scripts that were originally considered and the fact that they were rejected make me feel a little better. They should send our group the scripts and let us give some feedback. I think there are a lot of talented minds in this group that could fix their script problems.

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Steve -- thanks for agreeing with me! and HOW did you get the pleasure of
reading early versions of the new script???


- Armando (curious man in a nice black turtleneck)



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<<

Steve, as I often do here on the list . . . I have to defend the later
movies. I think that "Conquest" was the second best film in the series,
from a 'concept' perspective. And 'battle for' was third best. Sure, they
had lousy budgets . . . but they WERE trying to tell interesting stories
that were also relevant to the race relationships of America at the time.

I think the 2nd film was a hodge podge (they had to basically start the
story over and reintroduce the concept for the first half of the movie . .
. before they could move on), and Heston was an overacting buffon!


- Armando (with his two cents)

>>

I gotta agree, my favorite movie was the fth, and then the first,and them
fourth.

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Andrew Parmet has been posting one of the scripts on his site at Spleenworld.com. A friend of mine sent the other script to me by mail. I haven't seen anything posted on Cameron's treatment yet (has anyone seen what he worked on before he dropped out?)

S

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> Steve -- thanks for agreeing with me! and HOW did you get the pleasure of
> reading early versions of the new script???
>
>
> - Armando (curious man in a nice black turtleneck)
>
>
>
> _____________

>Godzilla , Pyscho and a couple of others. I think Speilberg will be a good
>director for POTA if they decide to make a new one. Although its doubtful he'd
>want to do the movie.
>
>Chris

yeah . . . World War II soldiers / deaths in the holocaust / talking apes .
. . i don't see it happening!


- Armando



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I saw this article on mrshowbiz.com about Cameron backing out of the
project and its current status:

http://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/990325/cameronapes032599.h
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Hello Ape Fans!

Does anyone on this list have a phone number for somebody at Fox? I would
like to speak to someone about licensing the characters from PoA for the
novel I am working on. Thanks for your help


- Armando (keepin' quiet lately)



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Hello,

I am a 29 year old male living in Boston, and i have been an ape fan
since i was little. I am looking for people to talk to about Ape movies,
toys, collectibles, etc.. My favorite Ape movie is Battle. My favorite
Ape is Aldo. I went so far as to have Cornelius and Zira on the top of
my weddng cake. If you would like to talk Apes, email me!

Thanks,

Harley


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That's cool, having Corneilous and Zira on the cake. If you want, by the way,
you can have the name Aldo for a nickname.

-Caesar

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Greetings my fellow human captures, does anyone know where I can buy copies
of the series return to the planet of the apes im intreasted in the cartoon
series.

Tshaf37@...

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Don't know if any of you guys are into this stuff, but I need some cash
and have out this custom figure of Brent on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=100396748

If you're interested, you can see some of the other POTA junk I did over
at:

http://www.toymania.com/megomuseum/custom/pn01..html"

Thanks for the ear-

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>I was always wondering as a kid why Taylor was able to talk to the apes.
>It seems like Taylor would have suspected that he was on Earth right away
>when he heard the apes speak a language that he could understand (or make
>sense of anyway).

Charlton Heston said there was a discussion with Richard Zanuck and Franklin Schaffner during the production about this and Heston insisted that they ignore the point on the grounds that "English is the lingua franca" of film and it would simply be easier to assume that the audience would be suspending it's disbelief on this point. I think it was the correct choice because making a deal of it would have tipped the audience too much in advance and ruined the point of the film. Sometimes, the best cinematic tricks come as a result of plot points that don't work when you analyze them too much (Hitchcock's crop dusting scene in North By Northwest, or the horse head in the bed in the Godfather to name two examples).

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>I was always wondering as a kid why Taylor was able to talk to the apes.
>It seems like Taylor would have suspected that he was on Earth right away
>when he heard the apes speak a language that he could understand (or make
>sense of anyway).

Charlton Heston said there was a discussion with Richard Zanuck and Franklin Schaffner during the production about this and Heston insisted that they ignore the point on the grounds that "English is the lingua franca" of film and it would simply be easier to assume that the audience would be suspending it's disbelief on this point. I think it was the correct choice because making a deal of it would have tipped the audience too much in advance and ruined the point of the film. Sometimes, the best cinematic tricks come as a result of plot points that don't work when you analyze them too much (Hitchcock's crop dusting scene in North By Northwest, or the horse head in the bed in the Godfather to name two examples).

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I know the apes aren't telepathic. But maybe Taylor figured at the time the
apes used telepathic communication and thats how he understood them. The apes
probably didn't realize they were using a human language they'll probably
thought the lawgiver invented it and accepted that. On the thing with the
hiergolyphics maybe the apes have a seprate language for their religion, like
how Preists used Latin in church but spoken vernacular outside of church.

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It's also possible that in the confusion, Taylor didn't have time, or metal
state of mind to think about how the Apes used English

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In a message dated 5/18/99 6:55:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
michaelw@... writes:

<< Or it could be another huge flaw in the script (like the identity of
which ape first uttered "no"). It would be difficult to explain away
all the script inconsistencies.

>>

I have a theory on how that flaw can be explained too...

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>It's also possible that in the confusion, Taylor didn't have time, or metal
>state of mind to think about how the Apes used English
>
>-Caesar
>

see, that's the best 'excuse' i can go with, as well. but it's still a stretch!

- Armando


- Sam Rosenthal

Hotel in Sommerset, PA. We'll be on the road till May 26th. We have our
laptop with us, however replies won't be as prompt as usual . . .

_____________

>I was born in Santa Monica, but I can't recall meeting any sentient apes.

that's because most of the sentient apes moved to orange county, where they
got positions in the republican party.

- Armando


- Sam Rosenthal

Outside of Philly in the New Jersey hotel room. We'll be on the road till
May 26th. We have our laptop with us, however replies won't be as prompt as
usual . . .

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Caution!
Someone from the ISP melim.com.br is sending
out the HAPPY computer virus. I just received it
with the subject of the email being PLANET OF
THE APES. If you receive an email from a Luis
at @..., DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY.
It will contain an attachment called HAPPY99.EXE.

DO NOT OPEN THAT FILE!
That is how you launch the computer virus.
This monster is trying to destroy us, please be
very careful fellow ape fans!

Thank you and good luck!
WATCH OUT FOR IT!

POTA's Rules, by the way :-)




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Thanks for spreading the word.Somebody should sell these arseholes into
slavery !
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To: Dana Duffy <letterpeople@...>
Cc: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 9:06 PM
Subject: [pota] CAUTION: Someone is sending out a virus!

>Caution!
>Someone from the ISP melim.com.br is sending
>out the HAPPY computer virus. I just received it
>with the subject of the email being PLANET OF
>THE APES. If you receive an email from a Luis
>at @..., DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY.
>It will contain an attachment called HAPPY99.EXE.
>
>DO NOT OPEN THAT FILE!
>That is how you launch the computer virus.
>This monster is trying to destroy us, please be
>very careful fellow ape fans!
>
>Thank you and good luck!
>WATCH OUT FOR IT!
>
>POTA's Rules, by the way :-)
>
>
>
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Before a lynch mob statrs, I'd like to chime in and say that this
particular virus, once activated, attaches itself to ALL your outgoing
email. Luis most likely had no idea that he was sending the virus on.

However, I think I recall someone on the list notifying him a few months
ago. Luis lives in Brazil, I believe, and may not have understood what
someone was telling him about this virus.

steve hodson wrote:

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> Thanks for spreading the word.Somebody should sell these arseholes into
> slavery !
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> >Caution!
> >Someone from the ISP melim.com.br is sending
> >out the HAPPY computer virus. I just received it
> >with the subject of the email being PLANET OF
> >THE APES. If you receive an email from a Luis
> >at @..., DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY.
> >It will contain an attachment called HAPPY99.EXE.
> >
> >DO NOT OPEN THAT FILE!
> >That is how you launch the computer virus.
> >This monster is trying to destroy us, please be
> >very careful fellow ape fans!
> >
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> >WATCH OUT FOR IT!
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What you say could be true, however, since the message contained
absolutely NO TEXT, only the attachment itself, it is reason for extreme
caution. I have set up my mail program to automatically filter out anything
coming in from Luis and have notified his ISP that he is sending out the
Virus. Now they can sort it out, hopefully. There really is no excuse for
sending out a virus, especially when it is the ONLY thing contained in
the email... no other message. An ape gone astray? Maybe just a human!
:-)

Cheers,
90


Philip Nobile wrote:

> Before a lynch mob statrs, I'd like to chime in and say that this
> particular virus, once activated, attaches itself to ALL your outgoing
> email. Luis most likely had no idea that he was sending the virus on.
>
> However, I think I recall someone on the list notifying him a few months
> ago. Luis lives in Brazil, I believe, and may not have understood what
> someone was telling him about this virus.
>
> steve hodson wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for spreading the word.Somebody should sell these arseholes into
> > slavery !
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...>
> > To: Dana Duffy <letterpeople@...>
> > Cc: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
> > Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 9:06 PM
> > Subject: [pota] CAUTION: Someone is sending out a virus!
> >
> > >Caution!
> > >Someone from the ISP melim.com.br is sending
> > >out the HAPPY computer virus. I just received it
> > >with the subject of the email being PLANET OF
> > >THE APES. If you receive an email from a Luis
> > >at @..., DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY.
> > >It will contain an attachment called HAPPY99.EXE.
> > >
> > >DO NOT OPEN THAT FILE!
> > >That is how you launch the computer virus.
> > >This monster is trying to destroy us, please be
> > >very careful fellow ape fans!
> > >
> > >Thank you and good luck!
> > >WATCH OUT FOR IT!
> > >
> > >POTA's Rules, by the way :-)
> > >
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90-CORVETTE wrote:

>
> What you say could be true,

It is true. This is how the virus works. It's the only thing it does -
send itself out on every email you send. It doesn't wipe your hard
drive, or do any permanent damage - it's annoying, but it's not the
apocalypse. Read here- http://vil.mcafee.com/vil/vpe10144.asp - to
learn more about it.

Luis was infected by this virus - it's no reason to blindly demonize
him. I haven't seen this offending email yet, by the way, and I'm
subscribed to the list as well. I also would never open an attachment
of any kind without knowing what it is. But that's me. I'm a different
breed of cat.

> Philip Nobile wrote:
>
> > Before a lynch mob statrs, I'd like to chime in and say that this
> > particular virus, once activated, attaches itself to ALL your outgoing
> > email. Luis most likely had no idea that he was sending the virus on.
> >
> > However, I think I recall someone on the list notifying him a few months
> > ago. Luis lives in Brazil, I believe, and may not have understood what
> > someone was telling him about this virus.
> >
> > steve hodson wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for spreading the word.Somebody should sell these arseholes into
> > > slavery !
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...>
> > > To: Dana Duffy <letterpeople@...>
> > > Cc: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
> > > Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 9:06 PM
> > > Subject: [pota] CAUTION: Someone is sending out a virus!
> > >
> > > >Caution!
> > > >Someone from the ISP melim.com.br is sending
> > > >out the HAPPY computer virus. I just received it
> > > >with the subject of the email being PLANET OF
> > > >THE APES. If you receive an email from a Luis
> > > >at @..., DELETE IT IMMEDIATELY.
> > > >It will contain an attachment called HAPPY99.EXE.
> > > >
> > > >DO NOT OPEN THAT FILE!
> > > >That is how you launch the computer virus.
> > > >This monster is trying to destroy us, please be
> > > >very careful fellow ape fans!
> > > >
> > > >Thank you and good luck!
> > > >WATCH OUT FOR IT!
> > > >
> > > >POTA's Rules, by the way :-)
> > > >
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I know Luis pretty well and I doubt he would intentionally send out a virus
like that. By the way what does this virus do to your computer?

Chris

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This virus is COMPLETELY harmless, but it does annoy the hell out of people.
If anyone is infected with it, let me know, I may still have the instructions
to remove it somewhere

-Caesar

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This posting isn't about email attached viruses. All I'd like to know is, where are the POTA-interested females in the group? I feel as if I'm a voice crying out in the wilderness.


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If anyone is interested...I have extras (in double and triple) of the new POTA Inkworks 80-set trading cards for sale. If interested, please e-mail me privately.

Thanks.


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Hello everyone...Been terribly quiet out here on this site!

Just an FYI for collectors: I went to Toys R Us the other day and they had the 12" figures for $4.99 each. That's a great bargain for Cornelius, Dr. Zaius and Gen. Ursus. I'm sure Philip could make some great conversions with extra parts like those! I'm not sure if all of the stores have them on discount, but check around and see.

Also, has anyone seen the new figures in the stores or have any site information (pics, etc.)?

We should think about using the chat feature on egroups sometime. It would be nice to talk to some of you in real time. Has anyone out there tried it?
Has anyone heard any recent updates on the new movie?

Alexander (Steve)


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Hey! I heard through the grapevine..that they will be available in July...I
saw them in Toy Shop magazine a few months ago. They come in canister tube
instead of boxes. There are also 7 inch figures due out in late summer. There
is also a Sony playstation game in the works for 2000. How do I sent Ape info
to everyone..I'm part of the group..but can't figure out how to send mail to
all members. Thanks Rob

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May I recommend all POTA fans to chat live together using ICQ.
I am already set up at #21857520
There are 40 million people already using it so its the best way to chat
with others
I'd love to talk POTA with orders and you can start chat groups with more
than 2 people chatting live together at once.
You have to download the program at www.mirabilis.com and go from there.
Hopefully this will work out.
Hope to chat with you soon.

TERRY HOKNES
HOKNES COMICS AND COLLECTIBLES
PLANET OF THE APES INTERNATIONAL FAN CLUB
comicsape@...
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steven.temple@... wrote:

>
> Hello everyone...Been terribly quiet out here on this site!
>
> Just an FYI for collectors: I went to Toys R Us the other day and they had the 12" figures for $4.99 each. That's a great bargain for Cornelius, Dr. Zaius and Gen. Ursus. I'm sure Philip could make some great conversions with extra parts like those!

I recommend that you grab these - the clothes can be dyed and altered
(plus at $5 you can buy extra Zaius figs and dye his boots green for
Cornelius), and I have had great success swapping the heads and clothes
onto a more versatile 12" body. Soon as I get a scanner I'll share pics.

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Was just searching the web....I found you can order The Planet of the Apes
Soldier Ape for $24.95 at www.hasbrocollectors.com.... Enjoy!

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Yes it comes in its own case. Quite cool looking!

From: <Pterosaur3@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 5:40 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Calling all Apes

> Was just searching the web....I found you can order The Planet of the Apes
> Soldier Ape for $24.95 at www.hasbrocollectors.com.... Enjoy!

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I've recently purchased the three 12"figures...but not a such a bargain price.

I've come across the forthcoming (August) new sets of POTA figures...Go to
http://www.entertainmentearth.com and do a "quick search" for Planet of the Apes.

---
Stephanie

On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:29:28 steven.temple wrote:
>Hello everyone...Been terribly quiet out here on this site!
>
>Just an FYI for collectors: I went to Toys R Us the other day and they had
> the 12" figures for $4.99 each. That's a great bargain for Cornelius, Dr.
>Zaius and Gen. Ursus. I'm sure Philip could make some great conversions wit
>h extra parts like those! I'm not sure if all of the stores have them on di
>scount, but check around and see.
>
>Also, has anyone seen the new figures in the stores or have any site inform
>ation (pics, etc.)?
>
>We should think about using the chat feature on egroups sometime. It would
> be nice to talk to some of you in real time. Has anyone out there tried it
>?
>Has anyone heard any recent updates on the new movie?
>
>Alexander (Steve)
>
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