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> Subject: [pota] Re: Ape Comic book
>
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> Monitor EBAY and you'll likely see it there eventually... plus
> you'll know the current "market price" for it then. :-)
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> BlakerG@... wrote:
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> > Hasn't been much activity recently. Anyway a friend of mine has
> a softcover
> > book that is similiar to a comic book. Its an adaption of
> Planet of the Apes
> > and comes with a 45 record. It was made in the early 70s. Does
> anybody out
> > there know how much this might be worth?
> > Sincerely,
> > Chris
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THE GREAT LAWGIVER!!!

(Fox has licensed us to sell them, by the way)

Brian
http://apemania.com

"Jones, Mike" wrote:

what was the name of the ape statue in the first movie that stood in the
square and all the apes worshiped as the founder.

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> www.homepages.msn.com/TimesSquare/dr_milo/index.html

> Go Y2"APE"!
>
> The 2000 PLANET OF THE APES calendar is only $ 20.00 each + postage &
> handling ($ 2.00 Canada, $ 2.00 U.S., $ 4.00 International per calendar) and
> feature a combination of colour/black and white stills from the movies,
> television and cartoon along with key information listed on important dates
> in ape history, making this a handy reference guide. Each calendar will
> contain a dust cover and photos are a full page in size. Cash is the
> preferred method of payment but I will also accept only money orders drawn
> on a national bank made payable to Dan Vernaet.
>
> Send to:
> Dan Vernaet
> dvernaet@...
> 604-104 Confederation Dr.
> St. Thomas, Ontario
> N5P-4C1
> CANADA
>
> All orders must be received by November 1, 1999.
> A full page ad will appear in the next issue of APE CHRONICLES.
> http://www.dlcwest.com/~comicsape/apenewproducts.htm
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> Is this item liscenced by 2oth? If not, be cautious.
>
> Terry Hoknes wrote:
>
> > Go Y2"APE"!
> >
> > The 2000 PLANET OF THE APES calendar is only $ 20.00 each + postage &
> > handling ($ 2.00 Canada, $ 2.00 U.S., $ 4.00 International per calendar) and
> > feature a combination of colour/black and white stills from the movies,
> > television and cartoon along with key information listed on important dates
> > in ape history, making this a handy reference guide. Each calendar will
> > contain a dust cover and photos are a full page in size. Cash is the
> > preferred method of payment but I will also accept only money orders drawn
> > on a national bank made payable to Dan Vernaet.
> >
> > Send to:
> > Dan Vernaet
> > dvernaet@...
> > 604-104 Confederation Dr.
> > St. Thomas, Ontario
> > N5P-4C1
> > CANADA
> >
> > All orders must be received by November 1, 1999.
> > A full page ad will appear in the next issue of APE CHRONICLES.
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> Did Heston not allow his likeness to be used (I know this has
> happened with other celebrities before)? Or am I being silly and reading too
> much into it?

>
> I have a little query about the latest Apes figures (the 7-inch ones). Is

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> Actually, I haven't been able to find the 7" figures down here yet (I
> live in MS).
> Does there appear to be an abundance of these in the retail stores? I'm
> just
> wondering if I should go ahead and order them off the net...just in case
> they
> don't make it down this way anytime soon.
>

>
> Steve Temple wrote:
>
> Actually, I haven't been able to find the 7" figures down here yet (I
> live in MS).
> Does there appear to be an abundance of these in the retail stores? I'm
> just
> wondering if I should go ahead and order them off the net...just in case
> they
> don't make it down this way anytime soon.
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> I just got my three new 12" figures of Gorilla

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> Here's a before and after of a Hasbro Cornelius figure that I altered.
> The sculpt looks totally different, and all I did was change the hair
> and repaint the face. Also put him on a thinner, more poseable body,
> darkened the leather, and gave him green boots to replace the brown.
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> http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/9953/comparecornelius.jpg
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> Here's a before and after of a Hasbro Cornelius figure that I altered.
> The sculpt looks totally different, and all I did was change the hair
> and repaint the face. Also put him on a thinner, more poseable body,
> darkened the leather, and gave him green boots to replace the brown.

>
> Philip Nobile wrote:
>
> Here's a before and after of a Hasbro Cornelius figure that I altered.
> The sculpt looks totally different, and all I did was change the hair
> and repaint the face. Also put him on a thinner, more poseable body,
> darkened the leather, and gave him green boots to replace the brown.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Temple [steven.temple@...]
> Sent: Friday, 10 September 1999 2:19
> To: pota@egroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Augmented Cornelius figure-
>
>
> I agree 100%....marvelous work! If you don't mind me asking, what type
> of paint
> did you use on the face? And dye on his jacket? I recommend sending
> that image
> to Hasbro so they can finally see a "true" POTA figure. Maybe they'll
> fire the idiots
> that designed those figs. and hire some real artists. Philip, you are
> very talented
> and I can't wait to see more of your work.
>
> Steve
>
> 90-CORVETTE wrote:
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> >
> > Philip Nobile wrote:
> >
> > Here's a before and after of a Hasbro Cornelius figure that I altered.
> > The sculpt looks totally different, and all I did was change the hair
> > and repaint the face. Also put him on a thinner, more poseable body,
> > darkened the leather, and gave him green boots to replace the brown.
>
> Absolutely awesome!
> You are a true artist.
> Now can you do any good to the Zira and... argh... "Taylor" figures?
>
> LOL
>
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> Philip Nobile wrote:
> >
> > Here's a before and after of a Hasbro Cornelius figure that I altered.
> > The sculpt looks totally different, and all I did was change the hair
> > and repaint the face. Also put him on a thinner, more poseable body,
> > darkened the leather, and gave him green boots to replace the brown.
>
> Absolutely awesome!
> You are a true artist.
> Now can you do any good to the Zira and... argh... "Taylor" figures?
>
> LOL
>
> Take care.
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> I agree 100%....marvelous work! If you don't mind me asking, what type
> of paint
> did you use on the face? And dye on his jacket? I recommend sending
> that image
> to Hasbro so they can finally see a "true" POTA figure. Maybe they'll
> fire the idiots
> that designed those figs. and hire some real artists. Philip, you are
> very talented
> and I can't wait to see more of your work.
>
> Steve
>
> 90-CORVETTE wrote:
>
> >
> > Philip Nobile wrote:
> >
> > Here's a before and after of a Hasbro Cornelius figure that I altered.
> > The sculpt looks totally different, and all I did was change the hair
> > and repaint the face. Also put him on a thinner, more poseable body,
> > darkened the leather, and gave him green boots to replace the brown.
>
> Absolutely awesome!
> You are a true artist.
> Now can you do any good to the Zira and... argh... "Taylor" figures?
>
> LOL
>
> Take care.
>
> 90-CORVETTE
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> I also agree - amazing what a haircut and a few hours in the solarium can
> do.....
>
> Did you CUT the hair or REPLACE it?
>
> Michael
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Temple [steven.temple@...]
> > Sent: Friday, 10 September 1999 2:19
> > To: pota@egroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] Re: Augmented Cornelius figure-
> >
> >
> > I agree 100%....marvelous work! If you don't mind me asking, what type
> > of paint
> > did you use on the face? And dye on his jacket? I recommend sending
> > that image
> > to Hasbro so they can finally see a "true" POTA figure. Maybe they'll
> > fire the idiots
> > that designed those figs. and hire some real artists. Philip, you are
> > very talented
> > and I can't wait to see more of your work.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > 90-CORVETTE wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Philip Nobile wrote:
> > >
> > > Here's a before and after of a Hasbro Cornelius figure that I altered.
> > > The sculpt looks totally different, and all I did was change the hair
> > > and repaint the face. Also put him on a thinner, more poseable body,
> > > darkened the leather, and gave him green boots to replace the brown.
> >
> > Absolutely awesome!
> > You are a true artist.
> > Now can you do any good to the Zira and... argh... "Taylor" figures?
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Take care.
> >
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> I just heard that Hasbro has bought out Wizards of the Coast. For those
> of
> you who are not familiar with WOTC, they are the gaming company that
> owns
> Five Rings and TSR (who came out with the original Dungeons & Dragons).
> They are also the co. that is responsible for the Pokemon CCG craze
> right now.
>
> Knowing Hasbro's past reputation of goofing things up (i.e. POTA
> merchandise),
> it will be interesting to see how a toy company handles a gaming company
> of
> WOTC's caliber.
>
> Steve
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In most cases an average copy of these "Power Records" are worth $5.00   Though a sealed/mint copy should be worth $20.00

 

Most have lots of wear.

The 45's in at least the "battle" set come in 2 different colors.  One is bright yellow and one is a dark pink

 

Only 4 of the movies had a "power record" release back in 1974 from Power Records/Marvel Comics.

 

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Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 8:55 PM

Subject: [pota] Ape Comic book

a friend of mine has a softcover book that is similiar to a comic book. Its an adaption of Planet of the Apes and comes with a 45 record. It was made in the early 70s. Does anybody out there know how much this might be worth?
Sincerely,
Chris

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MICHAEL:  Yes the magazines never finished the series off unfortunately.  Doug Moench was the writer so either him or marvel would have kept the unpublished stories.  There was a recent interview with Doug about his work on POTA in Comic Book Marketplace magazine #68

 

 

I remember when the Curtis POTA Comic Books were taken off the market - it took me a while to find out they were discontinued as I live in Australia.

 

You may recall all the movies had been retold in comic book format at the end of Issue #28, which containes the final chapter of Battle.

 

Also in #28 was a story in the continuing series of Terror on the Planet of the Apes - "Revolt of the Gorriloids".  This story was far from finished and I have always wanted to know if the remaining parts of this story were written and awaiting artwork (or even complete and sitting around somewhere!!) - does anyone have an answer?  Recently when the new comic series came about, Adventure Comics began to re-do the "Terror" series and I thought maybe they would know (or even pick up where Curtis left off) , but alas Adventure Comics no longer survive either.......

 

Also, I would like to know the same about the "Ape Chronicles" series of which Part V appeared in issue #29 (the final issue).

 

Can anyone help me out here?

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Sent: Saturday, 9 October 1999 18:22
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Subject: [pota] Terror on the Planet of the Apes

MICHAEL:  Yes the magazines never finished the series off unfortunately.  Doug Moench was the writer so either him or marvel would have kept the unpublished stories.  There was a recent interview with Doug about his work on POTA in Comic Book Marketplace magazine #68

 

 

I remember when the Curtis POTA Comic Books were taken off the market - it took me a while to find out they were discontinued as I live in Australia.

 

You may recall all the movies had been retold in comic book format at the end of Issue #28, which containes the final chapter of Battle.

 

Also in #28 was a story in the continuing series of Terror on the Planet of the Apes - "Revolt of the Gorriloids".  This story was far from finished and I have always wanted to know if the remaining parts of this story were written and awaiting artwork (or even complete and sitting around somewhere!!) - does anyone have an answer?  Recently when the new comic series came about, Adventure Comics began to re-do the "Terror" series and I thought maybe they would know (or even pick up where Curtis left off) , but alas Adventure Comics no longer survive either.......

 

Also, I would like to know the same about the "Ape Chronicles" series of which Part V appeared in issue #29 (the final issue).

 

Can anyone help me out here?

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>Dude, why'd you blow the ending of the movie right on the front
>page!?!??!
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>Well, I was just being a wiseass.
>
>BUT - I can tell you that Fox's decision to put that shot on the video box
>would have ruined the ending for my girlfriend, had I not concealed it
>before showing her the film. She'd never seen the film, and loved the
>ending (she's 23, no pedophile jokes, please).

>
> Well, I guess I can cross White Heat off my list of films to see . . .

>
> Yeah, that packaging is possibly the worst idea since... well, I reckon the

>Well, I was just being a wiseass.
>
>BUT - I can tell you that Fox's decision to put that shot on the video box
>would have ruined the ending for my girlfriend, had I not concealed it
>before showing her the film. She'd never seen the film, and loved the
>ending (she's 23, no pedophile jokes, please).

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Dude, why'd you blow the ending of the movie right on the front
page!?!??!

> Terry Hoknes wrote:
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> Well, I guess I can cross White Heat off my list of films to see . . .
>
> My next post will reveal the "surprise" ending of "The Sixth Sense".
>
> Har har.
>
> Back to the on-topicity, did anyone see that page linked from teh Fan Club
> page, showing pics of Taylor's ship in storage at the Fox lot, with the
> Doomsday missile lying next to it? Cool stuff.
>
> Phil
>
>

> Not that it surprised me, but the Cornelius and Zaius
> figures looked terrible. The sloppy paint job on
> Cornelius' face was just pure mud and the colors are way off.

>
> Steve Temple wrote:
> Not that it surprised me, but the Cornelius and Zaius
> figures looked terrible. The sloppy paint job on
> Cornelius' face was just pure mud and the colors are way off.

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>Yeah, the chick's got a dick! or was that the Crying game?
>
>Anyway, The "Icarus" site is very cool and a good read. Don't miss it!
>
>Here in Australia 2oth Century Fox Home Entertainment is planning to

>the entire run of the TV series early next year based on the success of the
>movie release earlier this year.
>The packaging will be similar to the movie release ( to maintain some
>continuity) yet will be more authentic. i.e. will feature the correct apes

>corresponding tapes ( and no spoilers!). The tapes will be available in two
>box sets with 7 episodes in each box. Australia is being used as a trial,

>the release is successful
>( by comparison) they could be released in other countries. As our VHS

>is PAL, this means the tapes cannot be viewed on NTSC systems used in the

>Japan and Canada.
>More news as it happens!!
>
>Philip *** wrote:
>
>> Well, I guess I can cross White Heat off my list of films to see . . .
>>
>> My next post will reveal the "surprise" ending of "The Sixth Sense".
>>
>> Har har.
>>
>> Back to the on-topicity, did anyone see that page linked from teh Fan

>> page, showing pics of Taylor's ship in storage at the Fox lot, with the
>> Doomsday missile lying next to it? Cool stuff.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>

> Does anyone have any more news on the computer game? I've read a couple of
> brief descriptions, seen the few screenshots that were going around
> (mouthwatering stuff) and I know it's not going to be released for ages. But
> that's it. Anyone got any other news on its development?
>
> Alan
>
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>
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>
> Heston would be proud, his figure acutally has hair AND a pistol...ha
> ha.
>
> Hmmmmm... My wish list for the 7" figs. would be:
> Nova, Brent, Zira, Ursus (geez, I can't imagine how bad that one will
> look).
> I would like to see them do the human mutants for once...
>
> I figure the Nova fig. will look like a bad Xena sculpt...but let's hope
> not.
>
> Steve
>
> Alan Maxwell wrote:
>
> >
> > Steve Temple wrote:
> > Not that it surprised me, but the Cornelius and Zaius
> > figures looked terrible. The sloppy paint job on
> > Cornelius' face was just pure mud and the colors are way off.
>
> This was one of my biggest complaints too (except for the ones I've
> mentioned previously) - the paint on their faces was poor. I actually liked
> the gorilla ones overall, but I have two complaints - the "TV stripes" (not
> that I don't like the TV series, but in the interests of accuracy...) and
> the fact that the two gorilla figs were very very similar.
>
> Of course I still bought them all anyway.
>
> OK, so it's self-indulgence time - if they brought out other 7" figs (and
> assuming they were going to do a good job on them), what would you like to
> see?
>
> My votes:
> Zira; Ursus; Nova; Brent
>
> And how about some nice presentation-style box sets (if you've seen DC
> Comics' JLA sets you'll know the sort of thing I mean), 5 figures in each:
> "Beneath" set - all 5 mutants, complete with separate "flesh" masks
> "Escape" set - (assuming Cornelius & Zira were already available separately)
> Hasslein, a military guy, Armando, and the two human doctors
> "Conquest" set - MacDonald, Breck, and one of each kind of Ape (in the
> different coloured uniforms)
> "Battle" set - Aldo, Virgil, Kolp, MacDonald, Alma
> "TV" set - Virdon, Burke, Galen, Urko, Zaius
>
> *Sigh*. If only Fox had given me that job...
>
> Alan
>
> "I remember days that felt like it was raining daisies"
>
> -----------------"Oiceboug, Roit Ahaid"------------------
> The Artist Formerly Known As ceeam3
> Alan Maxwell - Email alan@...
>
> Dunfermline & West Fife:
> http://www.auldgreytoon.freeserve.co.uk/dunf.htm
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> Is this for real?!? Some country might actually see a video release of the
> TV series? Wow.
>
> And Australian PAL is slightly different from UK PAL, isn't it? I had my
> hopes up for a minute. PAL, NTSC, SECAM... I get confused...
>
> Alan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...>
> To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
> Date: 13 October 1999 21:22
> Subject: [pota] Re: POTA INTERNATIONAL FAN CLUB WEBSITE UPDATED
>
> >Yeah, the chick's got a dick! or was that the Crying game?
> >
> >Anyway, The "Icarus" site is very cool and a good read. Don't miss it!
> >
> >Here in Australia 2oth Century Fox Home Entertainment is planning to
> release
> >the entire run of the TV series early next year based on the success of the
> >movie release earlier this year.
> >The packaging will be similar to the movie release ( to maintain some
> >continuity) yet will be more authentic. i.e. will feature the correct apes
> to
> >corresponding tapes ( and no spoilers!). The tapes will be available in two
> >box sets with 7 episodes in each box. Australia is being used as a trial,
> if
> >the release is successful
> >( by comparison) they could be released in other countries. As our VHS
> system
> >is PAL, this means the tapes cannot be viewed on NTSC systems used in the
> U.S,
> >Japan and Canada.
> >More news as it happens!!
> >
> >Philip *** wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I guess I can cross White Heat off my list of films to see . . .
> >>
> >> My next post will reveal the "surprise" ending of "The Sixth Sense".
> >>
> >> Har har.
> >>
> >> Back to the on-topicity, did anyone see that page linked from teh Fan
> Club
> >> page, showing pics of Taylor's ship in storage at the Fox lot, with the
> >> Doomsday missile lying next to it? Cool stuff.
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >>

>
> The line has so many possibilities, and they really just blew it.

>
> Heston would be proud, his figure acutally has hair AND a pistol...ha
> ha.
>
> Hmmmmm... My wish list for the 7" figs. would be:
> Nova, Brent, Zira, Ursus (geez, I can't imagine how bad that one will
> look).
> I would like to see them do the human mutants for once...
>
> I figure the Nova fig. will look like a bad Xena sculpt...but let's hope
> not.
>
> Steve
>
> Alan Maxwell wrote:
>
> >
> > Steve Temple wrote:
> > Not that it surprised me, but the Cornelius and Zaius
> > figures looked terrible. The sloppy paint job on
> > Cornelius' face was just pure mud and the colors are way off.
>
> This was one of my biggest complaints too (except for the ones I've
> mentioned previously) - the paint on their faces was poor. I actually liked
> the gorilla ones overall, but I have two complaints - the "TV stripes" (not
> that I don't like the TV series, but in the interests of accuracy...) and
> the fact that the two gorilla figs were very very similar.
>
> Of course I still bought them all anyway.
>
> OK, so it's self-indulgence time - if they brought out other 7" figs (and
> assuming they were going to do a good job on them), what would you like to
> see?
>
> My votes:
> Zira; Ursus; Nova; Brent
>
> And how about some nice presentation-style box sets (if you've seen DC
> Comics' JLA sets you'll know the sort of thing I mean), 5 figures in each:
> "Beneath" set - all 5 mutants, complete with separate "flesh" masks
> "Escape" set - (assuming Cornelius & Zira were already available separately)
> Hasslein, a military guy, Armando, and the two human doctors
> "Conquest" set - MacDonald, Breck, and one of each kind of Ape (in the
> different coloured uniforms)
> "Battle" set - Aldo, Virgil, Kolp, MacDonald, Alma
> "TV" set - Virdon, Burke, Galen, Urko, Zaius
>
> *Sigh*. If only Fox had given me that job...
>
> Alan
>
> "I remember days that felt like it was raining daisies"
>
> -----------------"Oiceboug, Roit Ahaid"------------------
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> Alan Maxwell - Email alan@...
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> The line has so many possibilities, and they really just blew it.
>
> Here's my attempt at a Mutant from a couple years ago:
>
> http://www.toymania.com/megomuseum/custom/pn01..html"
>
> Steve Temple wrote:
> >
> > Heston would be proud, his figure acutally has hair AND a pistol...ha
> > ha.
> >
> > Hmmmmm... My wish list for the 7" figs. would be:
> > Nova, Brent, Zira, Ursus (geez, I can't imagine how bad that one will
> > look).
> > I would like to see them do the human mutants for once...
> >
> > I figure the Nova fig. will look like a bad Xena sculpt...but let's hope
> > not.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Alan Maxwell wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Steve Temple wrote:
> > > Not that it surprised me, but the Cornelius and Zaius
> > > figures looked terrible. The sloppy paint job on
> > > Cornelius' face was just pure mud and the colors are way off.
> >
> > This was one of my biggest complaints too (except for the ones I've
> > mentioned previously) - the paint on their faces was poor. I actually liked
> > the gorilla ones overall, but I have two complaints - the "TV stripes" (not
> > that I don't like the TV series, but in the interests of accuracy...) and
> > the fact that the two gorilla figs were very very similar.
> >
> > Of course I still bought them all anyway.
> >
> > OK, so it's self-indulgence time - if they brought out other 7" figs (and
> > assuming they were going to do a good job on them), what would you like to
> > see?
> >
> > My votes:
> > Zira; Ursus; Nova; Brent
> >
> > And how about some nice presentation-style box sets (if you've seen DC
> > Comics' JLA sets you'll know the sort of thing I mean), 5 figures in each:
> > "Beneath" set - all 5 mutants, complete with separate "flesh" masks
> > "Escape" set - (assuming Cornelius & Zira were already available separately)
> > Hasslein, a military guy, Armando, and the two human doctors
> > "Conquest" set - MacDonald, Breck, and one of each kind of Ape (in the
> > different coloured uniforms)
> > "Battle" set - Aldo, Virgil, Kolp, MacDonald, Alma
> > "TV" set - Virdon, Burke, Galen, Urko, Zaius
> >
> > *Sigh*. If only Fox had given me that job...
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > "I remember days that felt like it was raining daisies"
> >
> > -----------------"Oiceboug, Roit Ahaid"------------------
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> > Alan Maxwell - Email alan@...
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>
> Speaking of figures, rumour has it that Japanese Toy company Medicom are planning a
> release of APE figures. If this eventuates, they'd really be something to look
> forward to as their attention to detail is awesome on their other lines. Cornelius
> and two different Gorillas are possible first releases.
>
> Philip Nobile wrote:
>
> > The line has so many possibilities, and they really just blew it.
> >
> > Here's my attempt at a Mutant from a couple years ago:
> >
> > http://www.toymania.com/megomuseum/custom/pn01..html"
> >
> > Steve Temple wrote:
> > >
> > > Heston would be proud, his figure acutally has hair AND a pistol...ha
> > > ha.
> > >
> > > Hmmmmm... My wish list for the 7" figs. would be:
> > > Nova, Brent, Zira, Ursus (geez, I can't imagine how bad that one will
> > > look).
> > > I would like to see them do the human mutants for once...
> > >
> > > I figure the Nova fig. will look like a bad Xena sculpt...but let's hope
> > > not.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Alan Maxwell wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve Temple wrote:
> > > > Not that it surprised me, but the Cornelius and Zaius
> > > > figures looked terrible. The sloppy paint job on
> > > > Cornelius' face was just pure mud and the colors are way off.
> > >
> > > This was one of my biggest complaints too (except for the ones I've
> > > mentioned previously) - the paint on their faces was poor. I actually liked
> > > the gorilla ones overall, but I have two complaints - the "TV stripes" (not
> > > that I don't like the TV series, but in the interests of accuracy...) and
> > > the fact that the two gorilla figs were very very similar.
> > >
> > > Of course I still bought them all anyway.
> > >
> > > OK, so it's self-indulgence time - if they brought out other 7" figs (and
> > > assuming they were going to do a good job on them), what would you like to
> > > see?
> > >
> > > My votes:
> > > Zira; Ursus; Nova; Brent
> > >
> > > And how about some nice presentation-style box sets (if you've seen DC
> > > Comics' JLA sets you'll know the sort of thing I mean), 5 figures in each:
> > > "Beneath" set - all 5 mutants, complete with separate "flesh" masks
> > > "Escape" set - (assuming Cornelius & Zira were already available separately)
> > > Hasslein, a military guy, Armando, and the two human doctors
> > > "Conquest" set - MacDonald, Breck, and one of each kind of Ape (in the
> > > different coloured uniforms)
> > > "Battle" set - Aldo, Virgil, Kolp, MacDonald, Alma
> > > "TV" set - Virdon, Burke, Galen, Urko, Zaius
> > >
> > > *Sigh*. If only Fox had given me that job...
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > "I remember days that felt like it was raining daisies"
> > >
> > > -----------------"Oiceboug, Roit Ahaid"------------------
> > > The Artist Formerly Known As ceeam3
> > > Alan Maxwell - Email alan@...
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> Does anybody have any pics of these new figures, I'd like to see what they
> look like. How many of them are there, which characters do they have?
> Sincerely,
> Chris

>
> The reason I ask this is because both Taylor and Brent had dogtags,
> and they also seemed to be very knowledgable about the atom bomb (in
> Beneath) - it sounds like they had special clearance...I don't know
> much about astronauts; are they supposed to be in the military as well
> as being in the space program?
>
> Of course, Taylor and Brent were both from a parallel earth (hence
> the ANSA on their uniforms), so anything is possible...
>
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> Yes.
>
> Traditionally, most astronauts are in the military. Wasn't the
> schoolteacher on the Challenger supposed to be the first civillian in
> space?
>
> Taylor was a Colonel, I believe.
>
> renaissance29@... wrote:
> >
> > The reason I ask this is because both Taylor and Brent had dogtags,
> > and they also seemed to be very knowledgable about the atom bomb (in
> > Beneath) - it sounds like they had special clearance...I don't know
> > much about astronauts; are they supposed to be in the military as well
> > as being in the space program?
> >
> > Of course, Taylor and Brent were both from a parallel earth (hence
> > the ANSA on their uniforms), so anything is possible...
> >
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>
> The reason I ask this is because both Taylor and Brent had dogtags,
>and they also seemed to be very knowledgable about the atom bomb (in
>Beneath) - it sounds like they had special clearance...I don't know
>much about astronauts; are they supposed to be in the military as well
>as being in the space program?
>
> Of course, Taylor and Brent were both from a parallel earth (hence
>the ANSA on their uniforms), so anything is possible...
>
>
>
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Maybe it was Brent's ship (or Burke and Virdon's!) or some other space explorer....Maybe Stewart landed on the POTA first, had an adventure and tried to escape, only to end up with a crack in the glass....

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: renaissance29@... [mailto:renaissance29@...]
Sent: Monday, 25 October 1999 9:46
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] How did Milo find and repair Taylor's starship
(EFTPOTA)?

  It's unlikely that Milo (even with the help of Zira and Cornelius)
could've  retrieved even part of Taylor's ship (after it had sunk in
the lake in "Planet"), rebuilt it, and gotten it launched again.  After
all, the technology that the apes had in "Planet" and "Beneath" was
very limited; it was around the technology that our own Earth had
pre-Industrial revolution (maybe around 1850).  There were no
railroads, cars, etc., so there was NO real way that Milo could've
figured out how to do something like this.

  However, since I like to try to think up explanations for the
unexplainable (and since it obviously did happen in the context of the
films), how about this: shortly after it crashed, the spaceship somehow
miraculously washed up on shore (maybe there was a hurricane/typhoon of
some sort which hit the lake where the ship sunk, and which caused the
ship to be "propelled" out of the water), Milo noticed the ship first,
and with the help of Zira and Cornelius (and many strong horses) pulled
it out of sight into a wooded area.  The schematics/repair instructions
(for the ship) were in the ship itself (which was waterproof). Anyway,
with these instructions, maybe he somehow did the impossible and
repaired it, set up a launch pad, etc. using some parts he had found
somewhere (maybe in the remains of NYC).  The ship was waterproof, so
it wasn't damaged too much.  The ship had some extra ANSA uniforms
(that fit all of the apes, since they were roughly human size)...

  Of course, that still doesn't explain why the ship looked so much
different at the beginning of "Escape" than it did in "Planet" (it was
white in planet and gray in escape, I believe).  Maybe the time travel
and the re-entrance into Earth's atmostphere affected the color?

  Yes, I know it's not a great explanation, but I couldn't think of a
better one...

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> * Brent looks (and sounds!) very, very similar to a younger Taylor
> (when Taylor had the beard in Planet) - since I don't believe in
> coincidences, this may have been done by the filmmakers to explain why
> Nova likes and trusts him, since she liked and trusted Taylor..

>
> Yes... We do all remember "I Dream of Jeannie," right?

> Yes.
>
> Traditionally, most astronauts are in the military. Wasn't the
> schoolteacher on the Challenger supposed to be the first civillian in
> space?
>
> Taylor was a Colonel, I believe.
>
> renaissance29@... wrote:
> >
> > The reason I ask this is because both Taylor and Brent had dogtags,
> > and they also seemed to be very knowledgable about the atom bomb (in
> > Beneath) - it sounds like they had special clearance...I don't know
> > much about astronauts; are they supposed to be in the military as well
> > as being in the space program?
> >
> > Of course, Taylor and Brent were both from a parallel earth (hence
> > the ANSA on their uniforms), so anything is possible...
> >
> >
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> Please keep in mind this is a huge RUMOR, but I recently read on

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>From: renaissance29@...
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] Did Taylor intentionally set off the Alpha-Omega bomb in
>"Beneath"?
>Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:50:13 -0700
>
><< text1.html>>

>renaissance29@... wrote:
>
>> * Brent looks (and sounds!) very, very similar to a younger Taylor
>> (when Taylor had the beard in Planet) - since I don't believe in
>> coincidences, this may have been done by the filmmakers to explain why
>> Nova likes and trusts him, since she liked and trusted Taylor..
>
>Maybe, but their first choice was Burt Reynolds, believe it or not.

>From: blacktape@... (sam rosenthal)
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: Pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] Re: Observations/comments on "Beneath"...
>Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:03:04 -0500
>
><< text1.html>>

>
> This has never been clear to me. It looks like he may have, but I'm

>

>The only places that I have seen the 7" line is at Toys R Us.
>I did find the 2nd wave of 12" figs. at Target about 2 months ago (they
>were $9.95 each).

>You cite the novelization, and the comic book. How about the film? I

>he did it on purpose. Nova was dead, so he didn't care. Of course, this
>means he attempted to murder Zira and Cornelius, bloodthirsty bastard.

>From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: "Apes List" <pota@egroups.com>
>Subject: [pota] More plot-holes!
>Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:53:03 +0100
>
><< text1.html>>

>Oh, yes. I think he meant to do it. Especially when he called Zaius a
>bloody bastard. I wonder... If Zaius had not been rattling off insults
>at
>Taylor, would Taylor have gone through with it? He did ask for Zaius'
>help as he approached the control, indicating that he was still trying
>to stop the Alpha-Omega bomb.
>
>
>Philip *** wrote:
>
>You cite the novelization, and the comic book. How about the film? I
>think
> he did it on purpose. Nova was dead, so he didn't care. Of course,
>this
> means he attempted to murder Zira and Cornelius, bloodthirsty bastard.
>
>
>
>renaissance29@... wrote:
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>> This has never been clear to me. It looks like he may have, but I'm
> not sure. In the novelization of the film it describes him as pressing
> the button as a kind of "reflex action" before he died, but in the
> Marvel comic book adaptation it clearly shows him pressing the button
> intentionally. Any thoughts?
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> Funny, I always thought that the phrase "Bloody Bastards" was directed
> towards the human race, then against the apes.
> For it was the human race that caused the apes to rise with their nuclear
> war aswell as creating the Alpha Omega bomb.
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> Talor's anger against the human race was complete in Beneath.
> Strange how everyone sees things differently.
>
> Just a thought.

>I'm new to the group here.
>
>I first saw BTPOTA back in '70 when I was 10 and it hooked me right away (I
>didn't see POTA until a few years later when all of the films were
>re-released in theaters in a "Go Ape" marathon). Over the past 30 years, I
>never thought that Taylor's final words were directed at anyone but Dr.
>Zaius, so the idea that he's condemning the human race while ending the
>world is a new one. Judging from how Taylor felt about people in general,
>this explanation of his last action would make sense. But if he truly did
>hate humanity so much, why would he have gone with Brent to try to disarm
>the Bomb in the first place? Was his whole intention to get close enough to
>the Bomb to set it off no matter what else happened?

>> Taylor's anger against the human race was complete in Beneath.
>> Strange how everyone sees things differently.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>

> Just wondering. I never saw any of them in the theatre and think it
>would be great to see them digitally re-mastered, with enhanced sound
>and on a big screen.

>I'm new to the group here.
>
>I first saw BTPOTA back in '70 when I was 10 and it hooked me right away (I
>didn't see POTA until a few years later when all of the films were
>re-released in theaters in a "Go Ape" marathon). Over the past 30 years, I
>never thought that Taylor's final words were directed at anyone but Dr.
>Zaius, so the idea that he's condemning the human race while ending the
>world is a new one. Judging from how Taylor felt about people in general,
>this explanation of his last action would make sense. But if he truly did
>hate humanity so much, why would he have gone with Brent to try to disarm
>the Bomb in the first place? Was his whole intention to get close enough

>the Bomb to set it off no matter what else happened?

>> Taylor's anger against the human race was complete in Beneath.
>> Strange how everyone sees things differently.
>>
>> Just a thought.
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