Click on the "Coming Soon" bar then scroll down the "pre-order" page a fair
way 'til you find the link for Medicom "Planet Of The Apes" page.
Best,
KEN

Becker0715@... wrote:

> In a message dated 12/16/1999 2:25:30 AM Central Standard Time,
> kentaylor@... writes:
>
> > Go here for some pics of the new Medicom figures.
> > Best,
> > KEN
> >
> > http://www.justbetoys.com/index2.html"
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> I didn't see any links/pics of apes figures???
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Attachments :

Heres a sort cut to the images.
Enjoy! (image attachment)

Very nice, these 8' figures are much better that the 7" figures.
Still looking for the 12 inch. figures, any ideas?

Alex

-----Original Message-----
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Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 3:01 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: medicom toys APE figures

>Click on the "Coming Soon" bar then scroll down the "pre-order" page a fair
>way 'til you find the link for Medicom "Planet Of The Apes" page.
>Best,
>KEN
>
>Becker0715@... wrote:
>
>> In a message dated 12/16/1999 2:25:30 AM Central Standard Time,
>> kentaylor@... writes:
>>
>> > Go here for some pics of the new Medicom figures.
>> > Best,
>> > KEN
>> >
>> > http://www.justbetoys.com/index2.html"
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I think I may have found a second POTA reference in Austin Powers 2,

We've been over the whole, "and the planet is ruled by DAMN DIRTY
APES..." quote from the movie, which is cool, but I think there might be a
second. When Austin and Felicity travel to Dr. Evil's secret volcano-island
place, they take a yellow submarine there (very cool Beatles reference).
They then get on a yellow raft and paddle to shore. Later, they drag the
raft a little way, and it looks a lot like the shoreline we all know and
love from POTA. Now, I could be just looking too far into this, but I don't
think it's too far-fetched that there would be two POTA references. There's
movie references all over the place, including several Star Wars ones. So,
anybody out there think I might've found a subtle hint, or have I just been
watching too much of both movies!




Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....


P.S. I heard TBS is running a POTA marathon on Christmas Day. Is it true?
Anybody else hear about it? I haven't seen or heard about it on T.V. or
anything....
______________________________________________________

.html Hey Ross T,

 I can't tell you if it was intentional or just plain convenient as far as locations go, but you are correct that we filmed the beach raft scene near the same location as the POTA beach scene. Good eye my friend.

And yes, TBS is running an "Ape-a-thon" on Christmas.

And to all you true blue Apes fans out there, there's a special holiday greeting for you at:

http://apemania.com/Xmas.htm

Have  a great season everyone.

Brian Penikas
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"Ross T." wrote:

I think I may have found a second POTA reference in Austin Powers 2,

    We've been over the whole, "and the planet is ruled by DAMN DIRTY
APES..."  quote from the movie, which is cool, but I think there might be a
second.  When Austin and Felicity travel to Dr. Evil's secret volcano-island
place, they take a yellow submarine there (very cool Beatles reference).
They then get on a yellow raft and paddle to shore.  Later, they drag the
raft a little way, and it looks a lot like the shoreline we all know and
love from POTA.  Now, I could be just looking too far into this, but I don't
think it's too far-fetched that there would be two POTA references.  There's
movie references all over the place, including several Star Wars ones.  So,
anybody out there think I might've found a subtle hint, or have I just been
watching too much of both movies!

Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....

P.S.  I heard TBS is running a POTA marathon on Christmas Day.  Is it true?
Anybody else hear about it?  I haven't seen or heard about it on T.V. or
anything....
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Yes, very funny scene.
But I have to admit the best spoof was the one from the exsorcist with the
spinning chair.
"I need a an old priest and a young priest".
"The power of Christ compels you".

Outrageously Funny!

Merry X-Mas all!
Alex



-----Original Message-----
From: Ross T. <smoothrt@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 12:50 AM
Subject: [pota] Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me....

>I think I may have found a second POTA reference in Austin Powers 2,
>
> We've been over the whole, "and the planet is ruled by DAMN DIRTY
>APES..." quote from the movie, which is cool, but I think there might be a
>second. When Austin and Felicity travel to Dr. Evil's secret

volcano-island

>place, they take a yellow submarine there (very cool Beatles reference).
>They then get on a yellow raft and paddle to shore. Later, they drag the
>raft a little way, and it looks a lot like the shoreline we all know and
>love from POTA. Now, I could be just looking too far into this, but I

don't

>think it's too far-fetched that there would be two POTA references.

There's

>movie references all over the place, including several Star Wars ones. So,
>anybody out there think I might've found a subtle hint, or have I just been
>watching too much of both movies!
>
>
>
>
>Ross (Dr. Milo)
>
>Smoothness is all....
>
>
>P.S. I heard TBS is running a POTA marathon on Christmas Day. Is it true?
>Anybody else hear about it? I haven't seen or heard about it on T.V. or
>anything....
>

Hey all you ape-o-holics, I just wanted to wish you all a safe and happy
holiday. Don't get to strung out on egg nog and get all philosophical about
pota on TBS this holiday!!!
And while we are on the topic of Austin Powers, dont ya just think Dr. Evil
is a cool screen name?

Respectfuly
Dr. E

Sorry to keep up about Austin Powers since this is a POTA mailing list but
isn't The Spy Who Shagged Me hillarious? You know what I would love to see
in the next Austin Powers? A mini-me version of fat bastard!!!! HAHA!!
Well I'm going to have to watch Austin Powers once again and see if I can
find a 3rd Planet of the Apes reference. Lets see who can come up with the
most outrageous. Merry Christmas

Dr. Mini-Fat Bastard

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NEWS OR POSSIBLE MISINFORMATION ON THE NEW FILM


  This was aired on December 26th, 1999 and no you're not dreaming.
I thought I was dreaming when I heard this unless there's a serious
misinformation campaign going on at Fox.
  Today, the Fox Entertainment News, which has two co-hosts that are a lot
like Mary Hart and Rob Weller from Entertainment tonight, did an entire show
dedicated to the greatest Sci-Fi Films of the 20th Century.
   It was all part of a film/end of the century special aired 26 DEC
  1999 at sometime around 5PM eastern standard time.
  They mentioned the Planet of the Apes and played the scene where Taylor
finds the statue of Liberty.
  They had a university professor disect the film and explain why it was
such a milestone in science fiction.
  After talking to him and I quote, the host of the show said, "James
Cameron is currently involved in the production of the new film."
  His female co-host said, "Yes that should be neat."
  To this the professor said, something like "as we face the end of the
millennium, it'll be interesting to see what type of twist James Cameron
comes up with for the new film."
  Now am I wrong or haven't all the recent posts about the movie read that
Cameron was gone and Michael Bay was in?
  Is Fox doing a massive misinformation campaign or something to keep people
from knowing what's going on until the finished product surfaces or
something?
  This came from the lips of a Fox entertainment broadcaster.
  Now, I don't always trust media and I myself am a military journalist at
Hunter Army Airfield, Georgia.
  If a journalist goes spouting out things of which he knows nothing about,
he tends to lose his credibility.  So if this guy who co-anchors for a fox
news program in a major market said something as blatantly unchecked and
unresearched as this, he can forget about making it as a journalist
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-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hoknes [comicsape@...]
Sent: Monday, 27 December 1999 19:10
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] New Apes Film

From: jon cupp

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 12:18 AM

Subject: New Apes Film

                                           
NEWS OR POSSIBLE MISINFORMATION ON THE NEW FILM


  This was aired on December 26th, 1999 and no you're not dreaming.
I thought I was dreaming when I heard this unless there's a serious
misinformation campaign going on at Fox.
  Today, the Fox Entertainment News, which has two co-hosts that are a lot
like Mary Hart and Rob Weller from Entertainment tonight, did an entire show
dedicated to the greatest Sci-Fi Films of the 20th Century.
   It was all part of a film/end of the century special aired 26 DEC
  1999 at sometime around 5PM eastern standard time.
  They mentioned the Planet of the Apes and played the scene where Taylor
finds the statue of Liberty.
  They had a university professor disect the film and explain why it was
such a milestone in science fiction.
  After talking to him and I quote, the host of the show said, "James
Cameron is currently involved in the production of the new film."
  His female co-host said, "Yes that should be neat."
  To this the professor said, something like "as we face the end of the
millennium, it'll be interesting to see what type of twist James Cameron
comes up with for the new film."
  Now am I wrong or haven't all the recent posts about the movie read that
Cameron was gone and Michael Bay was in?
  Is Fox doing a massive misinformation campaign or something to keep people
from knowing what's going on until the finished product surfaces or
something?
  This came from the lips of a Fox entertainment broadcaster.
  Now, I don't always trust media and I myself am a military journalist at
Hunter Army Airfield, Georgia.
  If a journalist goes spouting out things of which he knows nothing about,
he tends to lose his credibility.  So if this guy who co-anchors for a fox
news program in a major market said something as blatantly unchecked and
unresearched as this, he can forget about making it as a journalist

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It amazes me how little research is conducted for News programs such as that.
They probably had some intern look up some info. on the Internet. As
long as
we have this discussion group and sites like Cinescape, we'll be able to
get a
better understanding of what the film will be like. Has anyone heard
any other
rumors? I hope they are not using the "teen-friendly" cast like they
were planning.
"POTA 90210" is not what I want to see...

Steve

Hey Everybody,
My friends and I are making an online ape RPG, I am personally designing all
the zones and characters and stuff, if anybody has any good ideas or wants to
help out please contact me. The game will be a "mud" using circle mud code,
it will be up pretty soon if anyone is interested

It strikes me that the presenter perhaps picked up on an old rumour and used
it, safe in the knowledge that it's only people like us who would notice
that they're wrong. I shouldn't imagine the presenters themselves did too
much research. I'm surprised they didn't quote Oliver Stone too.

The fact is, they can connect whoever they want with the remake simply
because it looks like it'll take so long to get made that by the time it
appears everyone will have forgotten all about these rumours anyway.

My opinions - I don't believe it should be remade. I mean, you wouldn't
remake Casablanca, you wouldn't remake Gone With The Wind, you wouldn't
remake Ben Hur, and you wouldn't remake Star Wars. So why remake Planet of
the Apes?

On the other hand, I wouldn't totally object to a new treatment if it was
done with the right personnel. But of the people quoted so far, only Oliver
Stone carries any weight with me. James Cameron? No. Arnie? Get a grip.

Part of me will be glad if they fail to remake it. But given the lack of
originality in Hollywood these days, I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

Alan

.html I have to disagree.  I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
it a big production.  Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
would be a big mistake.  A totally different story would be great
though.  I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great Expectations"
that was every much as good as the original.  Your points are good,
especially where it counts - they should not attempt to REMAKE
it.  A new film though would be great.  I'm not a huge Cameron
or Arnold fan (have nothing in particular against them), but I think
they'd be pretty good in it.  Just an opinion.

On to another topic:
I found a good source for Planet of the Apes comics at:
http://members.aol.com/hrbholding/
...if that's of any interest to anyone on this list.  I am not promoting
them and am not associated with them in any way except that I
am buying some comics for myself from them.

Happy Holidays!

"90-CORVETTE"
 
 
 

Alan Maxwell wrote:

It strikes me that the presenter perhaps picked up on an old rumour and used
it, safe in the knowledge that it's only people like us who would notice
that they're wrong. I shouldn't imagine the presenters themselves did too
much research. I'm surprised they didn't quote Oliver Stone too.

The fact is, they can connect whoever they want with the remake simply
because it looks like it'll take so long to get made that by the time it
appears everyone will have forgotten all about these rumours anyway.

My opinions - I don't believe it should be remade. I mean, you wouldn't
remake Casablanca, you wouldn't remake Gone With The Wind, you wouldn't
remake Ben Hur, and you wouldn't remake Star Wars. So why remake Planet of
the Apes?

On the other hand, I wouldn't totally object to a new treatment if it was
done with the right personnel. But of the people quoted so far, only Oliver
Stone carries any weight with me. James Cameron? No. Arnie? Get a grip.

Part of me will be glad if they fail to remake it. But given the lack of
originality in Hollywood these days, I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

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90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...> wrote:

>I have to disagree. I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
>and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
>it a big production.

That doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. "Batman and Robin" and
"Independence Day", for example, were both big budget, and are the two worst
films I've ever seen. As for Arnie - can you imagine it? There are only two
possibilities for an Ape film featuring Arnie -

1) An all-action big budget effects-filled slug fest - 90 minutes of him
killing apes, blowing things up, performing stunts and uttering bad
one-liners.

2) A serious film, in which he actually has to try *acting*.

I'm not trying to launch a personal attack on Arnie, but can you imagine
PotA in either of these formats? Sends shivers down my spine.

>Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
>would be a big mistake. A totally different story would be great
>though. I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great Expectations"
>that was every much as good as the original.

I've always thought if they were dead set on trying something fresh, they
could do a lot worse than filming the original book. Despite what I said
about big-budget films, it could probably be done now, whereas the money and
technology weren't up to it back in the sixties.

Alan

I think the silence coming from Fox is enough to convince me that
the development is already going awry. The last two rumors to come
out were of the "Summer 2001 release" and the "teen friendly" casting.
That is what sends shiver up and down my spine...

I think if Fox stood on solid ground regarding this movie project, we would
have heard new information on a script, director and casting. Someone on
this list once discussed what it would take to develop the sets,
costumes and
makeup for the movie. I thought it was an accurate estimate and agree that
it would take months to make the most basic concepts come to life.

Fox does not have the time to develop a movie of this caliber for the Summer
2001 release. I believe their only option is to delay it until they get
their crap
together. If they try to rush this movie out by 2001, we're going to
end up with
a craptacular movie that rivals the dismal "Wing Commander" (or worse).

Let's hope we hear some good news from Fox...and soon.

Alan Maxwell wrote:

>
> 90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...> wrote:
> >I have to disagree. I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
> >and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
> >it a big production.
>
> That doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. "Batman and Robin" and
> "Independence Day", for example, were both big budget, and are the two worst
> films I've ever seen. As for Arnie - can you imagine it? There are only two
> possibilities for an Ape film featuring Arnie -
>
> 1) An all-action big budget effects-filled slug fest - 90 minutes of him
> killing apes, blowing things up, performing stunts and uttering bad
> one-liners.
>
> 2) A serious film, in which he actually has to try *acting*.
>
> I'm not trying to launch a personal attack on Arnie, but can you imagine
> PotA in either of these formats? Sends shivers down my spine.
>
> >Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
> >would be a big mistake. A totally different story would be great
> >though. I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great Expectations"
> >that was every much as good as the original.
>
> I've always thought if they were dead set on trying something fresh, they
> could do a lot worse than filming the original book. Despite what I said
> about big-budget films, it could probably be done now, whereas the money and
> technology weren't up to it back in the sixties.
>
> Alan
>
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Well, I wouldn't mind seeing an ape remake, you can just imagine the web
sites exploding on the net on planet of the apes, with sneak peaks on
images, wav files, trailers and so on. How awsome that would be!
As for the movie itself, Heaven knows it can't be worst the Star Wars
Episode 1 (The $100 million dallor movie version of "The muppets meet Star
Wars"), now that movie really sucked.

Thank God there would only be apes to deal with and not space aliens. For
Lucas has clearly proven that there is indeed so much fantasy a person can
swollow. (What an understatement and disapointment)

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve <steven.temple@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 3:06 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film

>I think the silence coming from Fox is enough to convince me that
>the development is already going awry. The last two rumors to come
>out were of the "Summer 2001 release" and the "teen friendly" casting.
>That is what sends shiver up and down my spine...
>
>I think if Fox stood on solid ground regarding this movie project, we would
>have heard new information on a script, director and casting. Someone on
>this list once discussed what it would take to develop the sets,
>costumes and
>makeup for the movie. I thought it was an accurate estimate and agree that
>it would take months to make the most basic concepts come to life.
>
>Fox does not have the time to develop a movie of this caliber for the

Summer

>2001 release. I believe their only option is to delay it until they get
>their crap
>together. If they try to rush this movie out by 2001, we're going to
>end up with
>a craptacular movie that rivals the dismal "Wing Commander" (or worse).
>
>Let's hope we hear some good news from Fox...and soon.
>
>Alan Maxwell wrote:
>>
>> 90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...> wrote:
>> >I have to disagree. I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
>> >and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
>> >it a big production.
>>
>> That doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. "Batman and Robin" and
>> "Independence Day", for example, were both big budget, and are the two

worst

>> films I've ever seen. As for Arnie - can you imagine it? There are only

two

>> possibilities for an Ape film featuring Arnie -
>>
>> 1) An all-action big budget effects-filled slug fest - 90 minutes of him
>> killing apes, blowing things up, performing stunts and uttering bad
>> one-liners.
>>
>> 2) A serious film, in which he actually has to try *acting*.
>>
>> I'm not trying to launch a personal attack on Arnie, but can you imagine
>> PotA in either of these formats? Sends shivers down my spine.
>>
>> >Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
>> >would be a big mistake. A totally different story would be great
>> >though. I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great Expectations"
>> >that was every much as good as the original.
>>
>> I've always thought if they were dead set on trying something fresh,

they

>> could do a lot worse than filming the original book. Despite what I said
>> about big-budget films, it could probably be done now, whereas the money

and

>> technology weren't up to it back in the sixties.
>>
>> Alan
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mail.mia.bellsouth.net wrote:

>
> As for the movie itself, Heaven knows it can't be worst the Star Wars
> Episode 1 (The $100 million dallor movie version of "The muppets meet Star
> Wars"), now that movie really sucked.

Well said. Star Wars Episode 1 was perhaps the biggest film
disappointment I have ever seen. Absolute garbage. Lucas only interest
was in making as many space aliens as possible because the more critters
he introduced in the film, the more he could introduce on the toy
shelves in the stores. You would think Lucas would have enough money
and would have wanted to make a great movie instead of a 2+ hour long
toy commercial.

90-CORVETTE

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Like I've said before gang, at my last luncheon with the Fox folks the topic of the apes film came up.  The new Apes movie people are working closely with the CD-ROM group exchanging concepts and ideas, but ALL are in agreement that they do not intend to rush into making a new POTA film unless they can do the name justice.  They don't want a Wild Wild West or Avengers disaster on there consciences!!!

Also, it's up in the air as to what effects labs will be providing the apes this time around.  Both Stan Winston and Rick Baker have done some wonderful tests.  Only time will tell....

brian
 

Steve wrote:

I think the silence coming from Fox is enough to convince me that
the development is already going awry.  The last two rumors to come
out were of the "Summer 2001 release" and the "teen friendly" casting.
That is what sends shiver up and down my spine...

I think if Fox stood on solid ground regarding this movie project, we would
have heard new information on a script, director and casting.  Someone on
this list once discussed what it would take to develop the sets,
costumes and
makeup for the movie.  I thought it was an accurate estimate and agree that
it would take months to make the most basic concepts come to life.

Fox does not have the time to develop a movie of this caliber for the Summer
2001 release.  I believe their only option is to delay it until they get
their crap
together.  If they try to rush this movie out by 2001, we're going to
end up with
a craptacular movie that rivals the dismal "Wing Commander" (or worse).

Let's hope we hear some good news from Fox...and soon.

Alan Maxwell wrote:
>
>  90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...> wrote:
>  >I have to disagree.  I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
>  >and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
>  >it a big production.
>
>  That doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. "Batman and Robin" and
>  "Independence Day", for example, were both big budget, and are the two worst
>  films I've ever seen. As for Arnie - can you imagine it? There are only two
>  possibilities for an Ape film featuring Arnie -
>
>  1) An all-action big budget effects-filled slug fest - 90 minutes of him
>  killing apes, blowing things up, performing stunts and uttering bad
>  one-liners.
>
>  2) A serious film, in which he actually has to try *acting*.
>
>  I'm not trying to launch a personal attack on Arnie, but can you imagine
>  PotA in either of these formats? Sends shivers down my spine.
>
>  >Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
>  >would be a big mistake.  A totally different story would be great
>  >though.  I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great Expectations"
>  >that was every much as good as the original.
>
>  I've always thought if they were dead set on trying something fresh, they
>  could do a lot worse than filming the original book. Despite what I said
>  about big-budget films, it could probably be done now, whereas the money and
>  technology weren't up to it back in the sixties.
>
>  Alan
>
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mail.mia.bellsouth.net <byruiz@...> wrote:

>Well, I wouldn't mind seeing an ape remake, you can just imagine the web
>sites exploding on the net on planet of the apes, with sneak peaks on
>images, wav files, trailers and so on. How awsome that would be!

Unless the film turns out to be a load of cack! :-)

One of my main fears regarding a possible remake is the prospect of all
these new "fans". Primarily - think of the collectables market. Ape items
can be quite expensive these days (they're certainly not getting any
cheaper) - imagine the boom in prices if a new film emerged. Fans like us
("real" fans if I might be so cynical) who have been collecting all along
would suddenly become the victims of the hype surrounding a remake. Imagine
walking into your local comic shop and being confronted with items going for
twenty quid or something when a year or two before they were costing a
couple of quid at most and still not shifting any copies.

And on another completely different note, but still Ape-related - a couple
of questions about the computer game. Does anyone know - Is it being
designed solely for the PC, or for other formats? And is it being designed
specifically for use with 3D-accelerated PCs or optional? Any answers or
indeed any new information at all would be gratefully received. It looks
like a mouthwatering prospect indeed (here's where someone tells me it's
been abandoned :-) ).

Alan

I agree with Alan - Fox seems to be scared to go ahead without big names
which probably means the story will be sacrificed ...... I say Spielberg
would be the best choice for producer/director but I think he works for
someone else.....

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Maxwell [alan@...]
> Sent: Thursday, 30 December 1999 6:13
> To: pota@egroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film
>
>
> 90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...> wrote:
> >I have to disagree. I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
> >and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
> >it a big production.
>
> That doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. "Batman and Robin" and
> "Independence Day", for example, were both big budget, and are
> the two worst
> films I've ever seen. As for Arnie - can you imagine it? There
> are only two
> possibilities for an Ape film featuring Arnie -
>
> 1) An all-action big budget effects-filled slug fest - 90 minutes of him
> killing apes, blowing things up, performing stunts and uttering bad
> one-liners.
>
> 2) A serious film, in which he actually has to try *acting*.
>
> I'm not trying to launch a personal attack on Arnie, but can you imagine
> PotA in either of these formats? Sends shivers down my spine.
>
> >Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
> >would be a big mistake. A totally different story would be great
> >though. I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great Expectations"
> >that was every much as good as the original.
>
> I've always thought if they were dead set on trying something fresh, they
> could do a lot worse than filming the original book. Despite what I said
> about big-budget films, it could probably be done now, whereas
> the money and
> technology weren't up to it back in the sixties.
>
> Alan
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dumont [afryt4u@...]
Sent: Thursday, 30 December 1999 1:44
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film

 
Like I've said before gang, at my last luncheon with the Fox folks the topic of the apes film came up.  The new Apes movie people are working closely with the CD-ROM group exchanging concepts and ideas, but ALL are in agreement that they do not intend to rush into making a new POTA film unless they can do the name justice.  They don't want a Wild Wild West or Avengers disaster on there consciences!!!

Also, it's up in the air as to what effects labs will be providing the apes this time around.  Both Stan Winston and Rick Baker have done some wonderful tests.  Only time will tell....

brian
 

Steve wrote:

I think the silence coming from Fox is enough to convince me that
the development is already going awry.  The last two rumors to come
out were of the "Summer 2001 release" and the "teen friendly" casting.
That is what sends shiver up and down my spine...

I think if Fox stood on solid ground regarding this movie project, we would
have heard new information on a script, director and casting.  Someone on
this list once discussed what it would take to develop the sets,
costumes and
makeup for the movie.  I thought it was an accurate estimate and agree that
it would take months to make the most basic concepts come to life.

Fox does not have the time to develop a movie of this caliber for the Summer
2001 release.  I believe their only option is to delay it until they get
their crap
together.  If they try to rush this movie out by 2001, we're going to
end up with
a craptacular movie that rivals the dismal "Wing Commander" (or worse).

Let's hope we hear some good news from Fox...and soon.

Alan Maxwell wrote:
>
>  90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...> wrote:
>  >I have to disagree.  I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
>  >and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
>  >it a big production.
>
>  That doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. "Batman and Robin" and
>  "Independence Day", for example, were both big budget, and are the two worst
>  films I've ever seen. As for Arnie - can you imagine it? There are only two
>  possibilities for an Ape film featuring Arnie -
>
>  1) An all-action big budget effects-filled slug fest - 90 minutes of him
>  killing apes, blowing things up, performing stunts and uttering bad
>  one-liners.
>
>  2) A serious film, in which he actually has to try *acting*.
>
>  I'm not trying to launch a personal attack on Arnie, but can you imagine
>  PotA in either of these formats? Sends shivers down my spine.
>
>  >Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
>  >would be a big mistake.  A totally different story would be great
>  >though.  I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great Expectations"
>  >that was every much as good as the original.
>
>  I've always thought if they were dead set on trying something fresh, they
>  could do a lot worse than filming the original book. Despite what I said
>  about big-budget films, it could probably be done now, whereas the money and
>  technology weren't up to it back in the sixties.
>
>  Alan
>
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First off, Independence Day was pretty cool. I agree with most of you guys
about the new POTA, if it is rushed it will definately stink, if it has big
name stars it will probobly stink. But still some of the original apes films
were sub-par, even if the movie wasnt made to live up to its name, would that
be a bad thing. POTA has some pretty big fottsteps to fill and id be happy
just if the story continued. I'd love for more people to enjoy a nerw film
and maybe spark an interest in the old films as well. All I'm saying is that
beggers cant be choosers and we should be happy a sequal or a remkae is even
a possibility!!

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

>I agree with Alan - Fox seems to be scared to go ahead without big names
>which probably means the story will be sacrificed ...... I say Spielberg
>would be the best choice for producer/director but I think he works for
>someone else.....

They could be really daring and try a two-gun approach of two directors! Get
a serious director for the main plot points, exposition, character scenes,
etc., and for the necessary action scenes, bring on someone like George
Miller!

OK, I admit it, I'm entering the realms of fantasy now.

Alan

What do you know, about two minutes after asking the question, I find a
website stating that it is indeed being made for both PC and Playstation.

Alan


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: 29 December 1999 22:28
Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film

>Brian,
>
>Any news on when we might see the game?
>
>Is it being made for Playstation?
>
>Michael
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Dumont [afryt4u@...]
> Sent: Thursday, 30 December 1999 1:44
> To: pota@egroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film
>
>
>
> Like I've said before gang, at my last luncheon with the Fox folks the
>topic of the apes film came up. The new Apes movie people are working
>closely with the CD-ROM group exchanging concepts and ideas, but ALL are in
>agreement that they do not intend to rush into making a new POTA film

unless

>they can do the name justice. They don't want a Wild Wild West or Avengers
>disaster on there consciences!!!
> Also, it's up in the air as to what effects labs will be providing the
>apes this time around. Both Stan Winston and Rick Baker have done some
>wonderful tests. Only time will tell....
>
> brian
>
>
> Steve wrote:
>
> I think the silence coming from Fox is enough to convince me that
> the development is already going awry. The last two rumors to come
> out were of the "Summer 2001 release" and the "teen friendly"
>casting.
> That is what sends shiver up and down my spine...
> I think if Fox stood on solid ground regarding this movie project,
>we would
> have heard new information on a script, director and casting.
>Someone on
> this list once discussed what it would take to develop the sets,
> costumes and
> makeup for the movie. I thought it was an accurate estimate and
>agree that
> it would take months to make the most basic concepts come to life.
>
> Fox does not have the time to develop a movie of this caliber for
>the Summer
> 2001 release. I believe their only option is to delay it until

they

>get
> their crap
> together. If they try to rush this movie out by 2001, we're going
>to
> end up with
> a craptacular movie that rivals the dismal "Wing Commander" (or
>worse).
>
> Let's hope we hear some good news from Fox...and soon.
>
> Alan Maxwell wrote:
> >
> > 90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...> wrote:
> > >I have to disagree. I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
> > >and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
> > >it a big production.
> >
> > That doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. "Batman and

Robin"

>and
> > "Independence Day", for example, were both big budget, and are
>the two worst
> > films I've ever seen. As for Arnie - can you imagine it? There
>are only two
> > possibilities for an Ape film featuring Arnie -
> >
> > 1) An all-action big budget effects-filled slug fest - 90

minutes

>of him
> > killing apes, blowing things up, performing stunts and uttering
>bad
> > one-liners.
> >
> > 2) A serious film, in which he actually has to try *acting*.
> >
> > I'm not trying to launch a personal attack on Arnie, but can you
>imagine
> > PotA in either of these formats? Sends shivers down my spine.
> >
> > >Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
> > >would be a big mistake. A totally different story would be
>great
> > >though. I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great Expectations"
> > >that was every much as good as the original.
> >
> > I've always thought if they were dead set on trying something
>fresh, they
> > could do a lot worse than filming the original book. Despite

what

>I said
> > about big-budget films, it could probably be done now, whereas
>the money and
> > technology weren't up to it back in the sixties.
> >
> > Alan
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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.html Well, there you go then!  I can tell you this much, APEMANIA is involved with the motion captures (our Dr. Zaius has already been to Paris France for some of that) and will be doing voice-over characterizations sometime in January (from what we were last told).  So this game IS happening, but I don't know if it has a confirmed release date yet.

Brian
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
APEMANIA.COM

Alan Maxwell wrote:

What do you know, about two minutes after asking the question, I find a
website stating that it is indeed being made for both PC and Playstation.

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: 29 December 1999 22:28
Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film

>Brian,
>
>Any news on when we might see the game?
>
>Is it being made for Playstation?
>
>Michael
>    -----Original Message-----
>    From: Brian Dumont [mailto:afryt4u@...]
>    Sent: Thursday, 30 December 1999 1:44
>    To: pota@egroups.com
>    Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film
>
>
>
>    Like I've said before gang, at my last luncheon with the Fox folks the
>topic of the apes film came up.  The new Apes movie people are working
>closely with the CD-ROM group exchanging concepts and ideas, but ALL are in
>agreement that they do not intend to rush into making a new POTA film
unless
>they can do the name justice.  They don't want a Wild Wild West or Avengers
>disaster on there consciences!!!
>    Also, it's up in the air as to what effects labs will be providing the
>apes this time around.  Both Stan Winston and Rick Baker have done some
>wonderful tests.  Only time will tell....
>
>    brian
>
>
>    Steve wrote:
>
>        I think the silence coming from Fox is enough to convince me that
>        the development is already going awry.  The last two rumors to come
>        out were of the "Summer 2001 release" and the "teen friendly"
>casting.
>        That is what sends shiver up and down my spine...
>        I think if Fox stood on solid ground regarding this movie project,
>we would
>        have heard new information on a script, director and casting.
>Someone on
>        this list once discussed what it would take to develop the sets,
>        costumes and
>        makeup for the movie.  I thought it was an accurate estimate and
>agree that
>        it would take months to make the most basic concepts come to life.
>
>        Fox does not have the time to develop a movie of this caliber for
>the Summer
>        2001 release.  I believe their only option is to delay it until
they
>get
>        their crap
>        together.  If they try to rush this movie out by 2001, we're going
>to
>        end up with
>        a craptacular movie that rivals the dismal "Wing Commander" (or
>worse).
>
>        Let's hope we hear some good news from Fox...and soon.
>
>        Alan Maxwell wrote:
>        >
>        >  90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...> wrote:
>        >  >I have to disagree.  I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
>        >  >and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
>        >  >it a big production.
>        >
>        >  That doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. "Batman and
Robin"
>and
>        >  "Independence Day", for example, were both big budget, and are
>the two worst
>        >  films I've ever seen. As for Arnie - can you imagine it? There
>are only two
>        >  possibilities for an Ape film featuring Arnie -
>        >
>        >  1) An all-action big budget effects-filled slug fest - 90
minutes
>of him
>        >  killing apes, blowing things up, performing stunts and uttering
>bad
>        >  one-liners.
>        >
>        >  2) A serious film, in which he actually has to try *acting*.
>        >
>        >  I'm not trying to launch a personal attack on Arnie, but can you
>imagine
>        >  PotA in either of these formats? Sends shivers down my spine.
>        >
>        >  >Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
>        >  >would be a big mistake.  A totally different story would be
>great
>        >  >though.  I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great Expectations"
>        >  >that was every much as good as the original.
>        >
>        >  I've always thought if they were dead set on trying something
>fresh, they
>        >  could do a lot worse than filming the original book. Despite
what
>I said
>        >  about big-budget films, it could probably be done now, whereas
>the money and
>        >  technology weren't up to it back in the sixties.
>        >
>        >  Alan
>        >
>
>
>
>
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Anyone out there know this one,

I think this question was addressed way back..., but I'm not sure. Is
the original Ape City set from the first two movies still up and standing.
I'm guessing not, considering it's been over thirty years, and that the Fox
Ranch was sold many years ago. Who was the Fox Ranch sold to? Is it a
public place now? I would be interested to know if there's anything left or
any kind of evidence left at the site that would prove the set once stood
there. If the set was somehow intact after all these years, that would be
incredible if it was used in the new movie (they did use the same set for
beneath, two years after the original you know). Any answers or thoughts?




Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....

______________________________________________________

Hello Ross,

Unfortunately, APE CITY came down just before M*A*S*H and Kung Fu went into
production. Many of the "lake" scenes in those tv series are right smack dab
in the middle of the Ape City reservoir. Some school chums of mine used to
always boast about playing on and around the Ape sets (during our days in
Junior High) but by the time I finally ventured out there with them (1980) it
was all gone.

An ape collector by the name of Greg Larson recently made a trek to the ol'
Fox ranch location and found evidence of the staircase that Cornelius walks up
to greet Zira that (right before their infamous "kissing" scene). Greg also
found some rebar stubs left over from the outdoor cage as well as the entrance
to the "sub-terranian" tunnel that Zaius and Ursus discover in "Beneath".

That's pretty much it, other than the watering hole itself, sans the bridge to
invasion.

I've aksed Greg if he has photos or would consider a photo venture back to the
ranch to take pictures for a special page on the APEMANIA website, so it's in
the works.

Also, a backpacking friend of one of the APEMANIA cast members recently was
hiking through the old Fox ranch when lo-and-behold a guy (from England) jumps
out from behind some rocks dressed as Cornelius!!! Ape-arently he is writing a
book and was there for a quick photoshoot. Any one heard anything more about
this?

Lemmee know,

Brian
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
APEMANIA.COM

Ross T. wrote:

> Anyone out there know this one,
>
> I think this question was addressed way back..., but I'm not sure. Is
> the original Ape City set from the first two movies still up and standing.
> I'm guessing not, considering it's been over thirty years, and that the Fox
> Ranch was sold many years ago. Who was the Fox Ranch sold to? Is it a
> public place now? I would be interested to know if there's anything left or
> any kind of evidence left at the site that would prove the set once stood
> there. If the set was somehow intact after all these years, that would be
> incredible if it was used in the new movie (they did use the same set for
> beneath, two years after the original you know). Any answers or thoughts?
>
> Ross (Dr. Milo)
>
> Smoothness is all....
>
>

The Planet of the Apes game is being made for Sega Dreamcast.

A while ago I saw something about it on the POTA International Fanclub page.

And I have dreamcast and I get these Dreamcast magazines, and yesterday while

looking through it I saw coming releases for every month in 2000. And the
POTA

game was in a catagory for sometime in the year 2000.

I assume the powers that be are remaining tight-lipped about the story, too?

The lead character being named Ulysses demonstrates at least an awareness of
the novel, and from what I can see from the screen shots released so far
there appears to be an element of technology that would be more at home in
the novel. Some of it however looks much more film-based (the old cathedral,
the underground).

Whatever, it's still looking very promising.

Alan


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: 30 December 1999 03:01
Subject: [pota] Re: D'OH!

>Well, there you go then! I can tell you this much, APEMANIA is involved

with

>the motion captures (our Dr. Zaius has already been to Paris France for

some of

>that) and will be doing voice-over characterizations sometime in January

(from

>what we were last told). So this game IS happening, but I don't know if it

has

>a confirmed release date yet.
>
>Brian
>Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
>APEMANIA.COM
>
>Alan Maxwell wrote:
>
>> What do you know, about two minutes after asking the question, I find a
>> website stating that it is indeed being made for both PC and Playstation.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
>> To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
>> Date: 29 December 1999 22:28
>> Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film
>>
>> >Brian,
>> >
>> >Any news on when we might see the game?
>> >
>> >Is it being made for Playstation?
>> >
>> >Michael
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Brian Dumont [afryt4u@...]
>> > Sent: Thursday, 30 December 1999 1:44
>> > To: pota@egroups.com
>> > Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Like I've said before gang, at my last luncheon with the Fox folks

the

>> >topic of the apes film came up. The new Apes movie people are working
>> >closely with the CD-ROM group exchanging concepts and ideas, but ALL are

in

>> >agreement that they do not intend to rush into making a new POTA film
>> unless
>> >they can do the name justice. They don't want a Wild Wild West or

Avengers

>> >disaster on there consciences!!!
>> > Also, it's up in the air as to what effects labs will be providing

the

>> >apes this time around. Both Stan Winston and Rick Baker have done some
>> >wonderful tests. Only time will tell....
>> >
>> > brian
>> >
>> >
>> > Steve wrote:
>> >
>> > I think the silence coming from Fox is enough to convince me

that

>> > the development is already going awry. The last two rumors to

come

>> > out were of the "Summer 2001 release" and the "teen friendly"
>> >casting.
>> > That is what sends shiver up and down my spine...
>> > I think if Fox stood on solid ground regarding this movie

project,

>> >we would
>> > have heard new information on a script, director and casting.
>> >Someone on
>> > this list once discussed what it would take to develop the sets,
>> > costumes and
>> > makeup for the movie. I thought it was an accurate estimate and
>> >agree that
>> > it would take months to make the most basic concepts come to

life.

>> >
>> > Fox does not have the time to develop a movie of this caliber

for

>> >the Summer
>> > 2001 release. I believe their only option is to delay it until
>> they
>> >get
>> > their crap
>> > together. If they try to rush this movie out by 2001, we're

going

>> >to
>> > end up with
>> > a craptacular movie that rivals the dismal "Wing Commander" (or
>> >worse).
>> >
>> > Let's hope we hear some good news from Fox...and soon.
>> >
>> > Alan Maxwell wrote:
>> > >
>> > > 90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...> wrote:
>> > > >I have to disagree. I think Arnold would be cool in POTA's,
>> > > >and Cameron has the ability to spend enough money to make
>> > > >it a big production.
>> > >
>> > > That doesn't necessarily make it a good thing. "Batman and
>> Robin"
>> >and
>> > > "Independence Day", for example, were both big budget, and

are

>> >the two worst
>> > > films I've ever seen. As for Arnie - can you imagine it?

There

>> >are only two
>> > > possibilities for an Ape film featuring Arnie -
>> > >
>> > > 1) An all-action big budget effects-filled slug fest - 90
>> minutes
>> >of him
>> > > killing apes, blowing things up, performing stunts and

uttering

>> >bad
>> > > one-liners.
>> > >
>> > > 2) A serious film, in which he actually has to try *acting*.
>> > >
>> > > I'm not trying to launch a personal attack on Arnie, but can

you

>> >imagine
>> > > PotA in either of these formats? Sends shivers down my spine.
>> > >
>> > > >Where I do agree with you is that a "remake"
>> > > >would be a big mistake. A totally different story would be
>> >great
>> > > >though. I just watched a remake on PBS of "Great

Expectations"

>> > > >that was every much as good as the original.
>> > >
>> > > I've always thought if they were dead set on trying something
>> >fresh, they
>> > > could do a lot worse than filming the original book. Despite
>> what
>> >I said
>> > > about big-budget films, it could probably be done now,

whereas

>> >the money and
>> > > technology weren't up to it back in the sixties.
>> > >
>> > > Alan
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Does anyone have a detailed list of all the locations from the films & TV
series? Obviously there were the scenes on the Ranch and in Century City, as
well as Colorado. I'm curious as to whether there is a complete list, with
details of exact locations.

Alan


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: 30 December 1999 06:33
Subject: [pota] Re: New Apes Film

>Hello Ross,
>
>Unfortunately, APE CITY came down just before M*A*S*H and Kung Fu went into
>production. Many of the "lake" scenes in those tv series are right smack

dab

>in the middle of the Ape City reservoir. Some school chums of mine used to
>always boast about playing on and around the Ape sets (during our days in
>Junior High) but by the time I finally ventured out there with them (1980)

it

>was all gone.
>
>An ape collector by the name of Greg Larson recently made a trek to the

ol'

>Fox ranch location and found evidence of the staircase that Cornelius walks

up

>to greet Zira that (right before their infamous "kissing" scene). Greg

also

>found some rebar stubs left over from the outdoor cage as well as the

entrance

>to the "sub-terranian" tunnel that Zaius and Ursus discover in "Beneath".
>
>That's pretty much it, other than the watering hole itself, sans the bridge

to

>invasion.
>
>I've aksed Greg if he has photos or would consider a photo venture back to

the

>ranch to take pictures for a special page on the APEMANIA website, so it's

in

>the works.
>
>Also, a backpacking friend of one of the APEMANIA cast members recently was
>hiking through the old Fox ranch when lo-and-behold a guy (from England)

jumps

>out from behind some rocks dressed as Cornelius!!! Ape-arently he is

writing a

>book and was there for a quick photoshoot. Any one heard anything more

about

>this?
>
>Lemmee know,
>
>Brian
>Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
>APEMANIA.COM
>
>Ross T. wrote:
>
>> Anyone out there know this one,
>>
>> I think this question was addressed way back..., but I'm not sure.

Is

>> the original Ape City set from the first two movies still up and

standing.

>> I'm guessing not, considering it's been over thirty years, and that the

Fox

>> Ranch was sold many years ago. Who was the Fox Ranch sold to? Is it a
>> public place now? I would be interested to know if there's anything left

or

>> any kind of evidence left at the site that would prove the set once stood
>> there. If the set was somehow intact after all these years, that would

be

>> incredible if it was used in the new movie (they did use the same set for
>> beneath, two years after the original you know). Any answers or

thoughts?

>>
>> Ross (Dr. Milo)
>>
>> Smoothness is all....
>>
>>

Hey,

I have Nintendo 64. Any luck of the POTA game becoming available on
that system?




Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....

______________________________________________________

Did any of you ever see the binder for Inkworks' series? I know that one was
supposed to be released, but I never saw it anywhere.

Alan

Alan Maxwell wrote:

>
> Did any of you ever see the binder for Inkworks' series? I know that one was
> supposed to be released, but I never saw it anywhere.
>
> Alan
>

Try Ebay and you'll see a ton of 'em.

Dear all,
Thought you might like to see the packaging for the upcoming Aussie
release of the TV series on video in March. The product will be
available in two types of packaging:
RETAIL: As two box sets each containing three cassettes. Each of the
cassettes in the boxes will be packaged in cardboard slip cases.
RENTAL: Six individually packaged cassettes in clamshell style plastic
boxes.
The packaging featured is from the first four rental cassettes. There
are some amendments being made to volumes 5 & 6.
The scans show the front and spines of each cover.
VOLUME 1:
ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW / THE GLADIATORS / THE TRAP.

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv1.jpg

VOLUME 2:
THE GOOD SEEDS / THE LEGACY

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv2.jpg

VOLUME 3:
TOMORROW'S TIDE / THE SURGEON

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv3.jpg

VOLUME 4:
THE DECEPTION / THE HORSE RACE

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv4.jpg

As mentioned in previous correspondence, this release is only planned
for Australia and New Zealand ....at this stage. We have tried to
maintain the continuity of the packaging from the movie release on video
in April of '99 ( in Australia). I trust you find them interesting.
Best to all,
KEN

Hi Ken.
The covers look great!
Any word on a DVD release for any of the ape sagas?

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 4:46 AM
Subject: [pota] AUSSIE VIDEO PACKAGING FOR APES TV SERIES

>Dear all,
>Thought you might like to see the packaging for the upcoming Aussie
>release of the TV series on video in March. The product will be
>available in two types of packaging:
>RETAIL: As two box sets each containing three cassettes. Each of the
>cassettes in the boxes will be packaged in cardboard slip cases.
>RENTAL: Six individually packaged cassettes in clamshell style plastic
>boxes.
>The packaging featured is from the first four rental cassettes. There
>are some amendments being made to volumes 5 & 6.
>The scans show the front and spines of each cover.
>VOLUME 1:
>ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW / THE GLADIATORS / THE TRAP.
>
>http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv1.jpg
>
>VOLUME 2:
>THE GOOD SEEDS / THE LEGACY
>
>http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv2.jpg
>
>VOLUME 3:
>TOMORROW'S TIDE / THE SURGEON
>
>http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv3.jpg
>
>VOLUME 4:
>THE DECEPTION / THE HORSE RACE
>
>http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv4.jpg
>
>As mentioned in previous correspondence, this release is only planned
>for Australia and New Zealand ....at this stage. We have tried to
>maintain the continuity of the packaging from the movie release on video
>in April of '99 ( in Australia). I trust you find them interesting.
>Best to all,
>KEN
>
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What format will the tapes be available in?  (Just PAL?)

Brian

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

Dear all,
Thought you might like to see the packaging for the upcoming Aussie
release of the TV series on video in March. The product will be
available in two types of packaging:
RETAIL: As two box sets each containing three cassettes. Each of the
cassettes in the boxes will be packaged in cardboard slip cases.
RENTAL: Six individually packaged cassettes in clamshell style plastic
boxes.
The packaging featured is from the first four rental cassettes. There
are some amendments being made to volumes 5 & 6.
The scans show the front and spines of each cover.
VOLUME 1:
ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW / THE GLADIATORS / THE TRAP.

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv1.jpg

VOLUME 2:
THE GOOD SEEDS / THE LEGACY

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv2.jpg

VOLUME 3:
TOMORROW'S TIDE / THE SURGEON

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv3.jpg

VOLUME 4:
THE DECEPTION / THE HORSE RACE

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv4.jpg

As mentioned in previous correspondence, this release is only planned
for Australia and New Zealand ....at this stage. We have tried to
maintain the continuity of the packaging from the movie release on video
in April of '99 ( in Australia). I trust you find them interesting.
Best to all,
KEN

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.html That's correct, the cassettes will only be available in the PAL format as we are a PAL territory.
Best,
KEN

Brian Dumont wrote:

 THANX KEN!

What format will the tapes be available in?  (Just PAL?)

Brian

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

Dear all,
Thought you might like to see the packaging for the upcoming Aussie
release of the TV series on video in March. The product will be
available in two types of packaging:
RETAIL: As two box sets each containing three cassettes. Each of the
cassettes in the boxes will be packaged in cardboard slip cases.
RENTAL: Six individually packaged cassettes in clamshell style plastic
boxes.
The packaging featured is from the first four rental cassettes. There
are some amendments being made to volumes 5 & 6.
The scans show the front and spines of each cover.
VOLUME 1:
ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW / THE GLADIATORS / THE TRAP.

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv1.jpg

VOLUME 2:
THE GOOD SEEDS / THE LEGACY

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv2.jpg

VOLUME 3:
TOMORROW'S TIDE / THE SURGEON

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv3.jpg

VOLUME 4:
THE DECEPTION / THE HORSE RACE

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv4.jpg

As mentioned in previous correspondence, this release is only planned
for Australia and New Zealand ....at this stage. We have tried to
maintain the continuity of the packaging from the movie release on video
in April of '99 ( in Australia). I trust you find them interesting.
Best to all,
KEN

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.html Thanks Alex,
Our DVD release schedule is governed by a word wide schedule ( outside the U.S. and Canada) and APES is not scheduled at this time. Chances are it/they will be released on DVD in America first but at this stage, I do not have a release date. If I hear anything, I'll let the group know.
Best,
KEN

mail.mia.bellsouth.net wrote:

Hi Ken.
The covers look great!
Any word on a DVD release for any of the ape sagas?

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 04, 2000 4:46 AM
Subject: [pota] AUSSIE VIDEO PACKAGING FOR APES TV SERIES

>Dear all,
>Thought you might like to see the packaging for the upcoming Aussie
>release of the TV series on video in March. The product will be
>available in two types of packaging:
>RETAIL: As two box sets each containing three cassettes. Each of the
>cassettes in the boxes will be packaged in cardboard slip cases.
>RENTAL: Six individually packaged cassettes in clamshell style plastic
>boxes.
>The packaging featured is from the first four rental cassettes. There
>are some amendments being made to volumes 5 & 6.
>The scans show the front and spines of each cover.
>VOLUME 1:
>ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW / THE GLADIATORS / THE TRAP.
>
>http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv1.jpg
>
>VOLUME 2:
>THE GOOD SEEDS / THE LEGACY
>
>http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv2.jpg
>
>VOLUME 3:
>TOMORROW'S TIDE / THE SURGEON
>
>http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv3.jpg
>
>VOLUME 4:
>THE DECEPTION / THE HORSE RACE
>
>http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/tv4.jpg
>
>As mentioned in previous correspondence, this release is only planned
>for Australia and New Zealand ....at this stage. We have tried to
>maintain the continuity of the packaging from the movie release on video
>in April of '99 ( in Australia). I trust you find them interesting.
>Best to all,
>KEN
>
>
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Hi John,
Thanks, glad you like the sleeves. Per your request follow the links to see
the backs of the 6 covers. As you will see, they're pretty generic.
Please note that this current art is incorrectly labelled as being Hi Fi
stereo. The tapes are in fact mono.
Best,
KEN
http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/apesb1.jpg

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/apesb2.jpg

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/apesb3.jpg

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/apesb4.jpg

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/apesb5.jpg

http://www.pixhost.com/pixk/kentaylor/apesb6.jpg

Ken,


How will we be able to purchase these videos?--

.html The tapes are being released March 8 and as mentioned previously are an Aussie only release.
Unless you have a duel format VCR that plays both NTSC and PAL cassettes, you will not be able to watch them as we are a PAL territory.
The packaging shown to date is for the rental versions and will only be available to Rental video stores. The retail packaging for consumers will be slightly different. There will be two box sets of three tapes each. A blue toned box and a purple toned box.
Unfortunately, TCFHE Australia is not set up to sell direct to the public at the moment but I'm sure that an Aussie on-line video service will make them available. I'll do some investigating and advise closer to the release date.
Best,
KEN

Jmjlm2@... wrote:

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You'd have to go to Australia.

And figure out a way to get your VCR to play PAL VHS tapes (they won't work
in the States).

Unless of course, you're already IN Australia or Europe - then it should
work fine.

>From: Jmjlm2@...
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] Re: AUSSIE VIDEO PACKAGING FOR APES TV SERIES
>Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 14:11:34 EST
>
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______________________________________________________

Philip *** wrote:

>
> You'd have to go to Australia.
>
> And figure out a way to get your VCR to play PAL VHS tapes (they won't work
> in the States).
>
> Unless of course, you're already IN Australia or Europe - then it should
> work fine.
>

I'm sure you'll also be able to find the tapes on Ebay, via individuals
selling out of Australia.

As for playing the videos, you should have local audio/video places
in your area that can copy off a converted version from PAL. Even my
little tiny speck of a town has a place that can do this. Be prepared
to pay a pretty penny, however.

slave-1 wrote:

> As for playing the videos, you should have local audio/video places
> in your area that can copy off a converted version from PAL. Even my
> little tiny speck of a town has a place that can do this. Be prepared
> to pay a pretty penny, however.

Which brings up the question - is it really worth it to go to all this
trouble? If you're going to end up with dubs anyway, there are people
(on the list and elsewhere) that already have the episodes on tape that
will dub them for much less than a professional post house (many of
which won't touch copyrighted material).

But if you're dying to have the box art for some reason, then go ahead
and make some new friends in Oz!

These things will all be on DVD eventaully . . .

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Philip *** <soylentphil@...> wrote:

>Unless of course, you're already IN Australia or Europe - then it should
>work fine.

Woo-hoo!!!

Very happy Alan,
In Scotland

This is by no means confirmed but I've heard on the apevine that a box set of 6
discs ( including "Behind the POTA") may be released in the U.S this summer on
DVD. Will keep you posted.
Best,
KEN

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Thanks KEN!
I'll keep my eyes and ears open.
POTA on DVD, now that's paradise!

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 2:34 AM
Subject: [pota] POTA on DVD

>This is by no means confirmed but I've heard on the apevine that a box set

of 6

>discs ( including "Behind the POTA") may be released in the U.S this summer

on

>DVD. Will keep you posted.
>Best,
>KEN
>
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.html Yeah, hopefully they'll include the complete version of "Battle" per the Japanese laser disc release.

mail.mia.bellsouth.net wrote:

Thanks KEN!
I'll keep my eyes and ears open.
POTA on DVD, now that's paradise!

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 2:34 AM
Subject: [pota] POTA on DVD

>This is by no means confirmed but I've heard on the apevine that a box set
of 6
>discs ( including "Behind the POTA") may be released in the U.S this summer
on
>DVD. Will keep you posted.
>Best,
>KEN
>
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Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 4:29 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA on DVD

Yeah, hopefully they'll include the complete version of "Battle" per the Japanese laser disc release.

mail.mia.bellsouth.net wrote:

Thanks KEN!
I'll keep my eyes and ears open.
POTA on DVD, now that's paradise!

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 2:34 AM
Subject: [pota] POTA on DVD

>This is by no means confirmed but I've heard on the apevine that a box set
of 6
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on
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mail.mia.bellsouth.net <byruiz@...> wrote:

>Tell me about it, I havn't seen that version in ages!

Lucky you, som of us haven't seen it at all! :-(


Alan

can someone describe the missing scenes from the movies?
i just purchased the new card set and if anyone hasn't gotten them yet,get them!there worth it!

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>>Tell me about it, I havn't seen that version in ages!
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Well, I'm not too good with names but you that girl that is left behind with
Mendez when the mutants go to war with the apes, she is told by Kolp that if
they do not make it back alive, she is to launch the Alpha Omega Bomb!
That's right, the Bomb is seen in Battle for the planet of the Apes.
And they show the Bomb too, excellent scene!

Well, Kolp doesn't make it back so she then goes off to lunch the Bomb, but
Mendez talks her out of it.
And so the timeline of Planet of the Apes takes Mendez and his followers
2000 years later to New York where the Bomb is set off in Beneath. Bringing
the whole Ape Saga Full Circle!

I was pissed to see them delete the scenes, I didn't know about it until I
saw it on Television with the added scenes years ago.
But they simpley wanted to leave the future open, as too saying, that we
make our own future, and not make it seem that man and ape have no hope.

How touching, sob sob. :)
Screw that! Nuke the Bastards!!
hehehehe!!!

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Here's the breakdown, from an old email I sent-

Most of the length is pointless, but there were some significant
differences.

Basically any scene involving traveling, chasing or pursuing is longer. The
bit where Aldo chases the teacher seems to go on forever, and now looks like
a lame ass attempt to evoke the scene where Taylor is trying to escape from
Ape City. Similarly, the trek to the Forbidden City by Caesar, MacDonald,
and Virgil seems to be going for a poor man's version of Taylor's trip
across the Zone.

There are other instances where things are longer - The conversation between
apes and humans immediately following the teacher's chase is a little
longer. While going to the archives, Caesar and Virgil stop and MacDonald
asks what's up. Caesar: "Do you smell them, Virgil?" Virgil: "Yes, but
different. Not like the humans in our village." Kolp spends a bit more
time watching them on the monitor. The chase after Virgil blows the shit
out of the security camera is longer.

Nothing is significantly longer after this until Kolp is about to leave for
Ape City. He pulls his Asian chppyinto this back room and shows her a bomb
- the Alpha Omega Bomb from Beneath! He then tells her that if he doesn't
return, to point the bomb at Ape City and turn it into monkey paste (I'm
paraphrasing). Right before the titular Battle, Kolp radios a fellow
mutant and says, "If fate doesn't smile upon us, send the message."

I need to check the US version, but Aldo ambushing the school bus seems
longer. They knock out the windows and spend a long time emptying their
rifles into the bus. One guy runs out and heads for cover inside this
little lean-to, and Aldo throws a grenade into it, blowing the fuck out of
the entire thing. I can see why they cut this scene.

Aldo then climbs on top of the bus and waves, like Miss America, at the
cheering gorillas who are chanting "Aldo, Aldo!"

The major extra scene comes right after Caesar lets the humans out of the
corral and has the little chat with the humans. Cut back to the Forbidden
City. Kolp's sidekick and the Asian girl (Alma? Velma?) are playing
checkers. A Mutant walks into the room and says "It's over!" The Asian girl
asks him how they made out, or something. "WE LOST!" he yells. "And the
governor?" she asks. He makes a 'ka-boom' gesture with his arms and
collapses on the ground. "Then I know what I must do," she says, and gets
up. She walks over to the bomb console and Kolp's sidekick pleads with to
stop. "This is the Alpha and Omega bomb. It will not only destroy the
apes, but the entire earth! We must keep it. Respect it! Venerate it,
even! For one of its ancestors made us what we are, and what we are, from
this day forward, shall be called 'beautiful'." Incidentally, his name is
Mendez - the leader of the Mutants in BENEATH was called Mendez, and one of
those busts that the Apes smash in Beneath is marked "Mendez XX".


Also, at the end of the longer version, Caesar's statue also shits itself
and pisses blood.

Kidding about that one.

More trivia - you know the "Lawgiver talking to the ape and human children"
wraparound bit? It was from an early draft of Beneath. Taylor and Brent
don't get killed, don't set off the bomb, and instead resolve to rebuild the
human race. Cut to the wraparound segment, with the lawgiver ape (who
stutters, for some reason) talking to the human and ape kids, preaching
harmony and peace, then cut to the ruins of New York, where a group of
mutant APES crawl from Beneath the rubble. One of them sees a dove flying
through the air, whips out a rifle and shoots it dead. The end.
______________________________________________________

I have the original 1972 POTA dolls. I'm an Aussie guy who
was devoted to Kim Hunter and Roddy McDowall.

I would like to swap them for the movie collection if anyone is
interested.

Regards - Alex

From Cinescape Online:

The UPN TV Network may be snagging a potential TV series
concept created by Spawn creator Todd McFarlane called
Gorilla World. The series, which sounds whole lot like Planet
of the Apes, will tell stories of a post-apocalyptic Earth where
gorillas rule and humans are endangered. According to Variety,
UPN wants to see a script for a pilot.

Regarding how close the concept is to Fox�s upcoming Planet
of the Apes return, McFarlane says, "When was Fox granted
the rights to be the only people who talked about Darwin? If
they�re dumb enough not to do anything with that franchise,
it�s up to me."

In addition, McFarlane and team have developed preliminary
designs for the series. About the gorillas, McFarlane reveals, "The
apes will look like apes. They won�t look like humans with masks."

McFarlane is said to be writing a script with Steve Niles and will
executive produce the eventual pilot/series with Terry Fitzgerald.
______________________________________________________

I hope Fox can block such a production. That sounds too
much like POTA and I can't see them getting away with it.
McFarlane should concentrate on his own troubled projects
(i.e. Spawn 2) instead of ripping off classic movies.

Philip *** wrote:

>
> From Cinescape Online:
>
> The UPN TV Network may be snagging a potential TV series
> concept created by Spawn creator Todd McFarlane called
> Gorilla World. The series, which sounds whole lot like Planet
> of the Apes, will tell stories of a post-apocalyptic Earth where
> gorillas rule and humans are endangered. According to Variety,
> UPN wants to see a script for a pilot.
>
> Regarding how close the concept is to Fox’s upcoming Planet
> of the Apes return, McFarlane says, "When was Fox granted
> the rights to be the only people who talked about Darwin? If
> they’re dumb enough not to do anything with that franchise,
> it’s up to me."
>
> In addition, McFarlane and team have developed preliminary
> designs for the series. About the gorillas, McFarlane reveals, "The
> apes will look like apes. They won’t look like humans with masks."
>
> McFarlane is said to be writing a script with Steve Niles and will
> executive produce the eventual pilot/series with Terry Fitzgerald.
>

If it's even slightly actionable, I can't imagine a network - even UPN -
touching it with a 10 foot control stick.

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>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:52:10 -0600
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______________________________________________________

Let's suppose it does come out for UPN or any other network, that gives fox
the edge. Maybe it'll spark interest in the whole concept again and then fox
will have "the real thing' instead of a cheap knock off. This theory is based
on the game show frenzy thats going on over hear, one game show hit the big
time now other networks are scrambling to find some suitable competition,
atleats fox will have the basic premise, characters, and atleast some ideas.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=236048145
This is for auction @ Ebay..Script for Oliver Stones new remake of POTA
called Return of the Apes written bt Terry Hayes...Anybody got the dope
or is this a joke? Thanx Dan

.htmlhttp://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=236048145<.html

Well, then it looks like after so many rumors, the remake is the real deal.
Interesting.

Alex

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> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=236048145
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> or is this a joke? Thanx Dan
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Nope.

The "Return of the Apes" script *was* written by Terry Hayes, and Arnie and
Oliver Stone *were* attached, but the seller on eBay is merely perpetuating
a myth as these people are no longer attached and haven't been for a long
time. This script is a few years old now, and is not in development at all.

Furthermore this script, as well as being available to purchase from some
speciality stores a while back, is freely available for download from
various locations on the internet.

Alan


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Date: 16 January 2000 12:43
Subject: [pota] Re: Is this for real?

>Well, then it looks like after so many rumors, the remake is the real deal.
>Interesting.
>
>Alex
>
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>Subject: [pota] Is this for real?
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Which ones?

-Caesar

>Which ones?
>
>-Caesar

Um... which what? What's this a reply to?

Confused Alan

WHich web sites have the script that was on E-Bayt for download?

>WHich web sites have the script that was on E-Bayt for download?

You should find it here:

http://members.tripod.com/rankostome/rotapes.html"

Alan

In a message dated 1/17/2000 5:30:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
alan@... writes:

<< http://members.tripod.com/rankostome/rotapes.html" >>
Thanks!

-Caesar

.html <.html

.html <.html

I just went back to this site:

http://www.justbetoys.com

<click on coming soon>

I had a look at the new Medicom toy releases and they had pictures of
the new POTA figures.
This time around they had pictures of General Ursus and Zira (along
with the old Cornelius picture).

They also listed new LEGO ape figures and had pictures of them as well.
I know the LEGO Star Wars
market has done well this year, so it's nice to see a potential POTA
line for collectors and kids!
<notice I listed collectors first...ha>

Steve

.html Or just go straight to the source:

http://www.justbetoys.com/new/medicomape.jpg

Thanx for keeping us posted Steve.

brian
 

Steve Temple wrote:

I just went back to this site:

http://www.justbetoys.com

<click on coming soon>

I had a look at the new Medicom toy releases and they had pictures of
the new POTA figures.
This time around they had pictures of General Ursus and Zira (along
with the old Cornelius picture).

They also listed new LEGO ape figures and had pictures of them as well.
 I know the LEGO Star Wars
market has done well this year, so it's nice to see a potential POTA
line for collectors and kids!
<notice I listed collectors first...ha>

Steve

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The new Medicom 6" apes are now out here in Japan, and I hold them greedily
in my trembling hand even as we speak. If you've seen the ads, you know
there is a Cornelius figure, a Soldier Ape figure, and a limited edition
Soldier Ape figure with a different head and a different rifle. How do they
look? BRILLANT!!! They are truly things of beauty. Cornelius looks just like
Cornelius, and the Soldier apes are so fine, you can actually find which
gorillas from the film they are suppost to be! These 'ultra detail figures'
look better than the old Mego figures (although they aren't as poseable),
alot better than the Hasbro 12' figures, and embarrassingly better than the
Hasbro 7" figures. Sorry patriots, this is one time the Japanese did it
better.

Those who have followed the development of these figure may have seen the
recent ads online for the Medicom Zira and Ursus figures. But wait, there is
more! On the back of the packages is written "COLLECT ALL 19", yes, ape
fans, NINETEEN! They then list the nineteen figures:

1. Cornelius
2. Soldier Ape
3. Soldier Ape (limited edition)
4. Lucius
5. Ursus
6. Zira
7. Zaius
8. Soldier Ape (What? A third?)
9. Urko
10. Taylor
11. Nova (Yeah baby!)
12. Aldo
13. Zira in Space Suit
14. Taylor in Space Suit
15. Cornelius in Space Suit
16. Milo in Space Suit
17. Caesar
18. Caesar's Land Ape (I don't know either!)
19. Greatest Ape (Maybe they mean the Law Giver???)

Personally, I would have done a mutant instead of three different soldier
apes. Nevertheless, a collection of this number and quality is what many a
POTA fan has been waiting for, and were denied by Hasbro.

Ape On Dudes,

Reece

.html Well then Reece, SHOW US SOME PHOTOS!!!
Brian

Reece Hendley wrote:

The new Medicom 6" apes are now out here in Japan, and I hold them greedily
in my trembling hand even as we speak. If you've seen the ads, you know
there is a Cornelius figure, a Soldier Ape figure, and a limited edition
Soldier Ape figure with a different head and a different rifle. How do they
look? BRILLANT!!! They are truly things of beauty. Cornelius looks just like
Cornelius, and the Soldier apes are so fine, you can actually find which
gorillas from the film they are suppost to be! These 'ultra detail figures'
look better than the old Mego figures (although they aren't as poseable),
alot better than the Hasbro 12' figures, and embarrassingly better than the
Hasbro 7" figures. Sorry patriots, this is one time the Japanese did it
better.

Those who have followed the development of these figure may have seen the
recent ads online for the Medicom Zira and Ursus figures. But wait, there is
more! On the back of the packages is written "COLLECT ALL 19", yes, ape
fans, NINETEEN! They then list the nineteen figures:

1. Cornelius
2. Soldier Ape
3. Soldier Ape (limited edition)
4. Lucius
5. Ursus
6. Zira
7. Zaius
8. Soldier Ape (What? A third?)
9. Urko
10. Taylor
11. Nova (Yeah baby!)
12. Aldo
13. Zira in Space Suit
14. Taylor in Space Suit
15. Cornelius in Space Suit
16. Milo in Space Suit
17. Caesar
18. Caesar's Land Ape (I don't know either!)
19. Greatest Ape (Maybe they mean the Law Giver???)

Personally, I would have done a mutant instead of three different soldier
apes. Nevertheless, a collection of this number and quality is what many a
POTA fan has been waiting for, and were denied by Hasbro.

Ape On Dudes,

Reece

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Aren't they $40 a piece? Damn. They are nice looking, though.

Reece Hendley wrote:

>
> The new Medicom 6" apes are now out here in Japan, and I hold them greedily
> in my trembling hand even as we speak. If you've seen the ads, you know
> there is a Cornelius figure, a Soldier Ape figure, and a limited edition
> Soldier Ape figure with a different head and a different rifle. How do they
> look? BRILLANT!!! They are truly things of beauty. Cornelius looks just like
> Cornelius, and the Soldier apes are so fine, you can actually find which
> gorillas from the film they are suppost to be! These 'ultra detail figures'
> look better than the old Mego figures (although they aren't as poseable),
> alot better than the Hasbro 12' figures, and embarrassingly better than the
> Hasbro 7" figures. Sorry patriots, this is one time the Japanese did it
> better.
>
> Those who have followed the development of these figure may have seen the
> recent ads online for the Medicom Zira and Ursus figures. But wait, there is
> more! On the back of the packages is written "COLLECT ALL 19", yes, ape
> fans, NINETEEN! They then list the nineteen figures:
>
> 1. Cornelius
> 2. Soldier Ape
> 3. Soldier Ape (limited edition)
> 4. Lucius
> 5. Ursus
> 6. Zira
> 7. Zaius
> 8. Soldier Ape (What? A third?)
> 9. Urko
> 10. Taylor
> 11. Nova (Yeah baby!)
> 12. Aldo
> 13. Zira in Space Suit
> 14. Taylor in Space Suit
> 15. Cornelius in Space Suit
> 16. Milo in Space Suit
> 17. Caesar
> 18. Caesar's Land Ape (I don't know either!)
> 19. Greatest Ape (Maybe they mean the Law Giver???)
>
> Personally, I would have done a mutant instead of three different soldier
> apes. Nevertheless, a collection of this number and quality is what many a
> POTA fan has been waiting for, and were denied by Hasbro.
>
> Ape On Dudes,
>
> Reece
>
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Attachments :

The Medicom 'Ultra Detail' figures cost 2480 yen here. That is about US$
26.00. I don't know what shops in the US, Canada, or elsewhere will be
asking. You may want to share the Japanese price with any retailer charging
too much!

On the packages of the figures is Medicom's Japanese web page.

www.medicomtoy.co.jp/

The site is in Japanese. I checked it out last night, and to my surprise,
they are releasing a second series of POTA figures. It is a series of cute
apes. There was Zaius, Zira, Cornelius, Ursus, two different soldiers,
Taylor, Nova, a horse, and the Statue of Liberty. They are called KUBRICK
POTA figures. They look about five or six centimeters tall. I'll attach a
jpg. of them. They will be released in April. If you visit the site, click
on "NEW" on the first page, then at the bottom of the following page (page
1) will be links to pages 2 and 3. They have alot of pics of them.

Someone posted a picture of the soon to be released Zira, Ursus, and
Cornelius 'Ultra Detail' figures either on this POTA group, or on the other
one. However, after careful observation, and a visit to the Medicom site, it
is now clear that the 'second' Cornelius is in fact the Lucius figure.
Lucius is shorter, and his tunic is different, as in the film.

Ape On Dudes,

Reece

Thanks for the update on these Reece. I'm curious how these are packaged.
Are they in blister packs or boxes? Also, do the accessories fit well
into the hands
of the figures? I'm looking forward to their release in the states, but
not the price
I'm going to have to pay.

Thanks,
Steve

Reece Hendley wrote:

>
> The new Medicom 6" apes are now out here in Japan, and I hold them greedily
> in my trembling hand even as we speak. If you've seen the ads, you know
> there is a Cornelius figure, a Soldier Ape figure, and a limited edition
> Soldier Ape figure with a different head and a different rifle. How do they
> look? BRILLANT!!! They are truly things of beauty. Cornelius looks just like
> Cornelius, and the Soldier apes are so fine, you can actually find which
> gorillas from the film they are suppost to be! These 'ultra detail figures'
> look better than the old Mego figures (although they aren't as poseable),
> alot better than the Hasbro 12' figures, and embarrassingly better than the
> Hasbro 7" figures. Sorry patriots, this is one time the Japanese did it
> better.
>
> Those who have followed the development of these figure may have seen the
> recent ads online for the Medicom Zira and Ursus figures. But wait, there is
> more! On the back of the packages is written "COLLECT ALL 19", yes, ape
> fans, NINETEEN! They then list the nineteen figures:
>
> 1. Cornelius
> 2. Soldier Ape
> 3. Soldier Ape (limited edition)
> 4. Lucius
> 5. Ursus
> 6. Zira
> 7. Zaius
> 8. Soldier Ape (What? A third?)
> 9. Urko
> 10. Taylor
> 11. Nova (Yeah baby!)
> 12. Aldo
> 13. Zira in Space Suit
> 14. Taylor in Space Suit
> 15. Cornelius in Space Suit
> 16. Milo in Space Suit
> 17. Caesar
> 18. Caesar's Land Ape (I don't know either!)
> 19. Greatest Ape (Maybe they mean the Law Giver???)
>
> Personally, I would have done a mutant instead of three different soldier
> apes. Nevertheless, a collection of this number and quality is what many a
> POTA fan has been waiting for, and were denied by Hasbro.
>
> Ape On Dudes,
>
> Reece
>
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.html They are in blister packs, which are sort of tall and lean. The accessories fit the hands nicely, although Cornelius has no accessories.

Reece


----------
From: Steve <steven.temple@...>
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Medicom Ape Figures
Date: Mon, Jan 31, 2000, 11:59 PM

Thanks for the update on these Reece.  I'm curious how these are packaged.
Are they in blister packs or boxes?  Also, do the accessories fit well
into the hands
of the figures?  I'm looking forward to their release in the states, but
not the price
I'm going to have to pay.

Thanks,
Steve

Reece Hendley wrote:
>
>  The new Medicom 6" apes are now out here in Japan, and I hold them greedily
>  in my trembling hand even as we speak. If you've seen the ads, you know
>  there is a Cornelius figure, a Soldier Ape figure, and a limited edition
>  Soldier Ape figure with a different head and a different rifle. How do they
>  look? BRILLANT!!! They are truly things of beauty. Cornelius looks just like
>  Cornelius, and the Soldier apes are so fine, you can actually find which
>  gorillas from the film they are suppost to be! These 'ultra detail figures'
>  look better than the old Mego figures (although they aren't as poseable),
>  alot better than the Hasbro 12' figures, and embarrassingly better than the
>  Hasbro 7" figures. Sorry patriots, this is one time the Japanese did it
>  better.
>
>  Those who have followed the development of these figure may have seen the
>  recent ads online for the Medicom Zira and Ursus figures. But wait, there is
>  more! On the back of the packages is written "COLLECT ALL 19", yes, ape
>  fans, NINETEEN! They then list the nineteen figures:
>
>  1. Cornelius
>  2. Soldier Ape
>  3. Soldier Ape (limited edition)
>  4. Lucius
>  5. Ursus
>  6. Zira
>  7. Zaius
>  8. Soldier Ape (What? A third?)
>  9. Urko
>  10. Taylor
>  11. Nova (Yeah baby!)
>  12. Aldo
>  13. Zira in Space Suit
>  14. Taylor in Space Suit
>  15. Cornelius in Space Suit
>  16. Milo in Space Suit
>  17. Caesar
>  18. Caesar's Land Ape (I don't know either!)
>  19. Greatest Ape (Maybe they mean the Law Giver???)
>
>  Personally, I would have done a mutant instead of three different soldier
>  apes. Nevertheless, a collection of this number and quality is what many a
>  POTA fan has been waiting for, and were denied by Hasbro.
>
>  Ape On Dudes,
>
>  Reece
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Found these on the Medicom site - a little larger.

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/1999_dec/big/photo02b.jpg

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/1999_dec/big/photo03b.jpg

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/1999_dec/big/photo04b.jpg

Does anyone know where the original shots went? The one of Cornelius and
the Soldier apes? Anyone?

Philip *** wrote:

> Found these on the Medicom site - a little larger.
> http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/1999_dec/big/photo02b.jpg
> http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/1999_dec/big/photo03b.jpg
> http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/1999_dec/big/photo04b.jpg

Don't take this the wrong way, ya'll, but how come the Japanese keep kicking
our a## on this kinda stuff? These new figures are just awesome!!! I have
complete sets of the Mego, 12" Hasbro, plus the new 6 or 7" ones and I
appreciate them very much for the simple fact that anything is better than
nothing. Then, Mediacom comes along and just blasts us all right out of the
water... and did I read there will be 19 different ones produced? Yeowzer!
At $40 a pop, I'm not sure if I can add all of those at once... Anxious to
see the NOVA... :-)

90-CORVETTE

One thing for sure, they have stomped Hasbro into the dirt with these figures.
Hasbro doesn't have squat for quality control. They're too busy rolling
in the
money from the Star Wars merchandise to care about us POTA fans. I've got
some feelers out right now, trying to find out who will be carrying the
figures on
the web and how much they will cost. I can't stand the idea of paying
$40 each,
but we may not have a choice. I'll keep ya posted on what I find out.

Steve

P.S. Yes, Nova will rock.


90-CORVETTE wrote:

>
> Philip *** wrote:
>
> > Found these on the Medicom site - a little larger.
> > http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/1999_dec/big/photo02b.jpg
> > http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/1999_dec/big/photo03b.jpg
> > http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/1999_dec/big/photo04b.jpg
>
> Don't take this the wrong way, ya'll, but how come the Japanese keep kicking
> our a## on this kinda stuff? These new figures are just awesome!!! I have
> complete sets of the Mego, 12" Hasbro, plus the new 6 or 7" ones and I
> appreciate them very much for the simple fact that anything is better than
> nothing. Then, Mediacom comes along and just blasts us all right out of the
> water... and did I read there will be 19 different ones produced? Yeowzer!
> At $40 a pop, I'm not sure if I can add all of those at once... Anxious to
> see the NOVA... :-)
>
> 90-CORVETTE
>
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Here's some more scans of the Medicom figures:

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/othercategory/ultradetail/big/photo04b.jpg

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/othercategory/ultradetail/big/photo05b.jpg
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You can preorder them from justbetoys.com.

As far as kicking Hasbro's ass, I'm the last guy to side with Hasbro's
shitty Apes, but I don't think Hasbro would dream of releasing 19 Apes
figures at that price point. I'm talking through my hat here, but it seems
that the Japanese take their pop culture much more seriously than the US
does. Who else was gonna make a $95 Phantom of the Paradise doll?

>From: Steve <steven.temple@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] Re: Bigger pics of Medicom's apes
>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 14:08:54 -0600
>
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Reece Hendley <reece@...> wrote:

>The site is in Japanese. I checked it out last night, and to my surprise,
>they are releasing a second series of POTA figures. It is a series of cute
>apes. There was Zaius, Zira, Cornelius, Ursus, two different soldiers,
>Taylor, Nova, a horse, and the Statue of Liberty. They are called KUBRICK
>POTA figures.

I think these are the aforementioned Lego series.

Alan

Reece Hendley <reece@...> wrote:

>Personally, I would have done a mutant instead of three different soldier
>apes.

Agreed there. Frankly, I'd rather a few different mutants than a few
different gorillas - there's a bit more variety. And if they're going to do
urko, why not any of the other TV series characters, most notably Virdon &
Burke? Ah well, at least they're making a decent job of them.

Won't there be a problem with likeness rights if they're making them so
accurately?

Alan

Man, those figures look fantastic!

I can't wait to see what rip-off price they're going to be in the UK. $40 is
about £25, so I reckon they'll probably be at least £30. I still haven't
bought the 12" series because of the price.

Alan

If this POTA line does well, maybe they'll continue it and include some
of the
mutants and T.V. characters. Maybe they'll get Heston's likeness so close,
it will really piss him off. That I would like to see. Well, that and
a really
accurate pair of Novas...oops, I mean Nova.

On another note, I noticed entertainmentearth.com still had some of the
POTA t-shirts for sale. Some are goofy, but there's a couple that were cool.

Steve

Alan Maxwell wrote:

>
> Reece Hendley <reece@...> wrote:
> >Personally, I would have done a mutant instead of three different soldier
> >apes.
>
> Agreed there. Frankly, I'd rather a few different mutants than a few
> different gorillas - there's a bit more variety. And if they're going to do
> urko, why not any of the other TV series characters, most notably Virdon &
> Burke? Ah well, at least they're making a decent job of them.
>
> Won't there be a problem with likeness rights if they're making them so
> accurately?
>
> Alan
>
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Anyone know how much they'll be here in the states? And when they
will be available? Thanks...

"alan maxwell" <ala-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/pota/?start=788

> Man, those figures look fantastic!
>
> I can't wait to see what rip-off price they're going to be in the UK.

$40 is

> about £25, so I reckon they'll probably be at least £30. I still

haven't

> bought the 12" series because of the price.
>
> Alan
>

Hi everyone. Years ago, I read the Marvel Comics adaptaion of POTA
and it was mentioned that Nova was pregnant (after the apes and Taylor
entered the forbidden zone). However, I was watching the film again
(after many years), and Nova's pregnancy is NOT mentioned. Was this
cut from the film, or is it only mentioned in the comic series?

I haven't seen BTPOTA for years, so don't know if it was mentioned in
that film or not...

It was cut from the film. According to the documentary, they removed it
because the pregnancy was a sign of hope, and it undercut the otherwise
hopeless ending. You don't hear much of that kind of thinking from the
studios any more . . .

>From: "Pulp" <renaissance29@...>
>Reply-To: pota@...
>To: pota@...
>Subject: [pota] Nova's pregnancy?
>Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 08:49:32 -0800
>
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I don't recall that, however, keep in mind that as with most movie
adaptations to comic, the comic book is usually well into production prior to
the release of the final cut of the film. Often, things from the original
script will be in the comic but later either lost on the edit room floor, or
sometimes never even shot.

90-CORVETTE



Pulp wrote:

> Hi everyone. Years ago, I read the Marvel Comics adaptaion of POTA
> and it was mentioned that Nova was pregnant (after the apes and Taylor
> entered the forbidden zone). However, I was watching the film again
> (after many years), and Nova's pregnancy is NOT mentioned. Was this
> cut from the film, or is it only mentioned in the comic series?
>
> I haven't seen BTPOTA for years, so don't know if it was mentioned in
> that film or not...
>
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It was shot in this case. A while back on Ebay, someone had pics of Nova
getting morning sickness. She was doubled over and Zira was examining her.

>From: 90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] Re: Nova's pregnancy?
>Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 11:02:04 -0600
>
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on 2/2/00 11:02 AM, Philip *** at soylentphil@... wrote:

> It was cut from the film. According to the documentary, they removed it
> because the pregnancy was a sign of hope, and it undercut the otherwise
> hopeless ending. You don't hear much of that kind of thinking from the
> studios any more . . .

Nova's pregnancy would also would have been seen as a cheap hook for a
sequel, which they didn't want at that time.

There was another sequence that was filmed, then cut, of gorillas stopping
the wagon and Zira telling them that Taylor and Nova have rabies.

Anthony

Philip *** <soylentphil@...> wrote:

>It was cut from the film. According to the documentary, they removed it
>because the pregnancy was a sign of hope, and it undercut the otherwise
>hopeless ending.

I think the documentary also said that they felt that if they introduced the
pregnancy storyline they would have to follow it through to its conclusion.

It'd be interesting to see though.

Alan

If you go to this website( I remember seeing it a while back) you will see
the script for the pregancy scene:
<A HREF="http://www.mcanet.com.br/lostinspace/apes/apes.htmlquot;>Click here:
New Page 5</A>

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.html I would like to show you a few of the latest Japanese Medicom apes pic
which I just bought. They are Cornelius and Soldier apes. each of them
comes in a special version - Cornelius has a darker outfit and the
soldier has a different rifle. I hope you could post them up or send it
to some other sites who can. <.html

.html Hi all,
Just a bit more info on the new Medicom figures.
Apparently the likeness to Heston is spot on, so much so he ( or his people) will be approving the sculpt.
Also the Lego style figures will be available as playsets, the first three are the ones featured on the Medicom site, with a further three planned for release in march or April.
Also Polar Lights have secured the rights for new plastic kits. Not so exciting news is that they will probably be re-casts of the Addar kits...even with replica packaging. Hopefully, they'll include the Soldier on horseback in the series for those who haven't been able to locate the original.
Would have liked to have seen some NEW liscenced APE kits.
Best to all,
KEN

Steve wrote:

If this POTA line does well, maybe they'll continue it and include some
of the
mutants and T.V. characters.  Maybe they'll get Heston's likeness so close,
it will really piss him off.  That I would like to see.  Well, that and
a really
accurate pair of Novas...oops, I mean Nova.

On another note, I noticed entertainmentearth.com still had some of the
POTA t-shirts for sale.  Some are goofy, but there's a couple that were cool.

Steve

Alan Maxwell wrote:
>
>  Reece Hendley <reece@...> wrote:
>  >Personally, I would have done a mutant instead of three different soldier
>  >apes.
>
>  Agreed there. Frankly, I'd rather a few different mutants than a few
>  different gorillas - there's a bit more variety. And if they're going to do
>  urko, why not any of the other TV series characters, most notably Virdon &
>  Burke? Ah well, at least they're making a decent job of them.
>
>  Won't there be a problem with likeness rights if they're making them so
>  accurately?
>
>  Alan
>
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>I would like to show you a few of the latest Japanese Medicom apes pic
>which I just bought. They are Cornelius and Soldier apes. each of them
>comes in a special version - Cornelius has a darker outfit and the
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> >From: Droideka
> >To: comicsape@...
> >
> >I would like to show you a few of the latest Japanese Medicom apes pic
> >which I just bought. They are Cornelius and Soldier apes. each of them
> >comes in a special version - Cornelius has a darker outfit and the
> >soldier has a different rifle. I hope you could post them up or send it
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