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From: Terry Hoknes [comicsape@...]
Sent: Friday, 4 February 2000 6:29
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: POTA figures

Sorry about that!   Normally I wouldnt either, but these were nice pictures forwarded to me and they aren't on the net anywhere!

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Hey everyone,

Has anyone ever heard of Under The Planet of The Apes, or something to
that effect? One of my friends told me that they read in the Chicago
Tribune that they're doing some kind of performance of it at Northwestern
University. She said it's a popular take-off of the movie. I would think
if it actually existed, I would've heard about it by now, being the POTA
fanatic I am. If anyone knows anything about either the movie/play, or the
performance at Northwestern, I'd like to more. Thanks!




Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....


(I tried looking it up on the web with bad results)
______________________________________________________

Anyone else having a problem locating this figure that was released
last fall? I have yet to see it - I had a hard time locating the other
two recently released 12" POTA figures (Zira and Gorilla Soldier in
black, white-striped uniform) but the Taylor remains very elusive....

Also, have they discontinued these figures? I can get one at a local
comic store for $40, but don't want to do that unless I have to...

Got mine at a Target store for 19.99. I bought all three. Suggest you try
Target, I also got the 7" figures there, too. Good luck!

Lewis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pulp" <renaissance29@...>
To: <pota@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 2:00 AM
Subject: [pota] Why is the Hasbro POTA 12" Commander Taylor so hard to find?


>
>
> Anyone else having a problem locating this figure that was released
> last fall? I have yet to see it - I had a hard time locating the other
> two recently released 12" POTA figures (Zira and Gorilla Soldier in
> black, white-striped uniform) but the Taylor remains very elusive....
>
> Also, have they discontinued these figures? I can get one at a local
> comic store for $40, but don't want to do that unless I have to...
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.html Do you have a Target store there?  Here (Texas) at Target
they are all down to $9.99 each.  Other than that, just go up
onto Ebay.  I KNOW you can get the figure for much less
than forty bucks!  :-)

Good luck.

90-CORVETTE
 
 

Pulp wrote:

  Anyone else having a problem locating this figure that was released
last fall?  I have yet to see it - I had a hard time locating the other
two recently released 12" POTA figures (Zira and Gorilla Soldier in
black, white-striped uniform) but the Taylor remains very elusive....

  Also, have they discontinued these figures? I can get one at a local
comic store for $40, but don't want to do that unless I have to...

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I just found the three 12" Hasbro POTA figures at a sports/non-sports collectors/memorabilia show at a local mall from a vendor. He was charging $25 ea. or all three for $60. I bought all three for $60!

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On Sun, 06 Feb 2000 07:52:46 90-CORVETTE wrote:
>Do you have a Target store there? Here (Texas) at Target
>they are all down to $9.99 each. Other than that, just go up
>onto Ebay. I KNOW you can get the figure for much less
>than forty bucks! :-)
>
>Good luck.
>
>90-CORVETTE
>
>
>
>Pulp wrote:
>
>> Anyone else having a problem locating this figure that was released
>> last fall? I have yet to see it - I had a hard time locating the other
>> two recently released 12" POTA figures (Zira and Gorilla Soldier in
>> black, white-striped uniform) but the Taylor remains very elusive....
>>
>> Also, have they discontinued these figures? I can get one at a local
>> comic store for $40, but don't want to do that unless I have to...
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------



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Anyone in the Aneheim area, the toy store below apparently has the
Cornelius and Soldier Apes from Medicom for $29 each.

'Gotta Have It!' Collectible Toys
1215 S. Beach Blvd #E
Anaheim, Ca 92804

Hi. I found this URL today:

http://geocities.com/two_girls_353/

Someone's made a piece of techno music using Planet of the Apes samples.
It's downloadable in MP3 format.

Alan

Awsome!
Totaly Awsome!

Thanks.
Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Maxwell <alan@...>
To: Apes List <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 4:28 PM
Subject: [pota] Ape Music


> Hi. I found this URL today:
>
> http://geocities.com/two_girls_353/
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> Someone's made a piece of techno music using Planet of the Apes samples.
> It's downloadable in MP3 format.
>
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Thanks, guys. I did get the first two POTA figs. in the series at
Target (as far as I know the only place that has these figures), but
haven't seen Taylor at all there yet. The Gorilla and Zira that I got
were the last ones there, so I know they're hard to find.

I may have to get this figure on the secondary market, but I sure
won't pay $40 for it...

90-corvette <jpctq-@...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/pota/?start=807

> Do you have a Target store there? Here (Texas) at Target
> they are all down to $9.99 each. Other than that, just go up
> onto Ebay. I KNOW you can get the figure for much less
> than forty bucks! :-)
>
> Good luck.
>
> 90-CORVETTE
>
>
>
> Pulp wrote:
>
> > Anyone else having a problem locating this figure that was

released

> > last fall? I have yet to see it - I had a hard time locating the

other

> > two recently released 12" POTA figures (Zira and Gorilla Soldier in
> > black, white-striped uniform) but the Taylor remains very

elusive....

> >
> > Also, have they discontinued these figures? I can get one at a

local

> > comic store for $40, but don't want to do that unless I have to...
> >

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Terry - thanks for posting - some comments:

<<The last 3 apparently are variant Soldier Apes. There's the one I have
with a brown gun, there's one pictured with a lighter gun and the card has
another "Soldier Ape" designation.>>

The lighter gun he refers to is the machine gun seen in "Beneath".

<< They aren't appreciatively superior to Hasbro's 7" line, just better
proportioned and smaller (which I like).>>

Here's where I disagree vehemently. I have Cornelius and one Soldier Ape,
and these figures are by far the best three dimensional representations I've
ever seen of the characters. The sculpt quality blows Hasbro away (I did a
side by side comparison, and there's just no contest - I'll try to post pics
when I can). There's limited poseability (no worse than Hasbro), but the
detail on the faces and costumes is unsurpassed.

Some pics from Ebay:

Cornelius:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=255132759
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=256135560
(They really nailed his eyes, I think).

Soldier Ape with machine gun:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=255134329

Soldier ape with standard rifle (and back of card checklist:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=256266588



______________________________________________________

In the latest issue of "Cinescape" Jan/Feb. Issue, In the back theres an
article "Monkey Business" talking about the spring 2000 release of the
"Planet of the Apes"
video Playstation game. It shows some of the screens from the game. It looks
pretty great. I'm surprised that Fox interactive is releasing this before
releasing the movies on DVD. You can also see some of the characters on the
website search..Fox interactive website. I hope you enjoy! Always waiting to
hear more news about The Medicom figures!!!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 12:50 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA Interactive

Here is the latest on the POTA Fox Game.

Info and Images.

 

http://dreamcast.ing/previews/13171.html"

 

Enjoy!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 1:00 PM

Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Interactive

Opps!

That's http://dreamcast.ing.com/previews/13171.html"

 

Sorry.

----- Original Message -----

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To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 12:50 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA Interactive

Here is the latest on the POTA Fox Game.

Info and Images.

 

http://dreamcast.ing/previews/13171.html"

 

Enjoy!

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Couldn't get it to work:-(

Thanx,,,got the 3rd one....

Two copies currently on Ebay, if anyone's interested:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=258060485

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=259220540

Thoughts? I may have to make copies of my tape available, if those
prices are any indication . . .

>Thoughts? I may have to make copies of my tape available, if those
>prices are any indication . . .

Good God, that's unbelieveable. I'm desperate to get a copy of the extended
version of Battle, but not that desperate! (Not to mention the costs of
converting the tape to PAL format, assuming I could find someone who would,
or the fact that the auction is illegal!)

I guess I'll have to get it some other way.

Alan

If you can make a copy of your version in good condition I'll pay you up
$30.00 chief. I have a super VHS so I'm not sure what verison of tape that
is.
I would love to make some lost clips for the internet for all to enjoy.

Let me know.
Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Maxwell <alan@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:28 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Japanese cut of Battle


> >Thoughts? I may have to make copies of my tape available, if those
> >prices are any indication . . .
>
>
> Good God, that's unbelieveable. I'm desperate to get a copy of the
extended
> version of Battle, but not that desperate! (Not to mention the costs of
> converting the tape to PAL format, assuming I could find someone who
would,
> or the fact that the auction is illegal!)
>
> I guess I'll have to get it some other way.
>
> Alan
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In a message dated 2/15/00 1:02:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
byruiz@... writes:

<< I would love to make some lost clips for the internet for all to enjoy.

>>

Finally, Apes uniting man!

.html
Here is a link to a 24 hour, 7 day a week Streaming Video of the Planet
of the Apes...

<http://www.videocomplex.com/livecam1.htm>

On broadband, its like watching TV. :) <.html

Anyone know about this? I've looked for it but haven't been able to
find it in Widescreen. Thanks!

Pulp

Pulp wrote:

>
>
> Anyone know about this? I've looked for it but haven't been able to
> find it in Widescreen. Thanks!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6305076162/qid=950852609/sr=1-6/102-0743149-9976818

Enjoy . . .

In case no ones heard yet, the "buz" around town is that Tim Burton has signed a deal to direct
the new Planet of the Apes film, so I guess Michael Bey is out.

Get ready for pale faced primates with dark circles around their eyes....

B

Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
hehehe!!

My God, what next?

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
To: <pota@...>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 5:59 AM
Subject: [pota] Burton and POTA?


> In case no ones heard yet, the "buz" around town is that Tim Burton has
signed a deal to direct
> the new Planet of the Apes film, so I guess Michael Bey is out.
>
> Get ready for pale faced primates with dark circles around their eyes....
>
> B
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<<Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
hehehe!!

My God, what next?>>

Oh come now, Burton's about the best choice I've heard so far (I was pulling
for Gilliam, but hey . . .).

Can you guys tell me what the following films have in common?

Yes, Giorgio
Good Guys Wear Black
Omen 2
Death Wish 4: The Crackdown



They were all films made by directors of the original POTA series. Guys who
specialized in generic war films, Charles Bronson movies, an ASTOUNDING
amount of made for TV crap, and nothing on their resumes that would indicate
they were "right" for a POTA movie...





______________________________________________________

If this is true, I'm relieved. I love the guy's work. He'd have some fun with the concept.
Best,
KEN

Philip *** wrote:

> <<Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
> hehehe!!
>
> My God, what next?>>
>
> Oh come now, Burton's about the best choice I've heard so far (I was pulling
> for Gilliam, but hey . . .).
>
> Can you guys tell me what the following films have in common?
>
> Yes, Giorgio
> Good Guys Wear Black
> Omen 2
> Death Wish 4: The Crackdown
>
> They were all films made by directors of the original POTA series. Guys who
> specialized in generic war films, Charles Bronson movies, an ASTOUNDING
> amount of made for TV crap, and nothing on their resumes that would indicate
> they were "right" for a POTA movie...
>
>

Attachments :

.html Yuppers.  According to the most recent Hollywood Reporter.

Here's a photo of one of the new "Burtonized" ape concepts as well.

B

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

If this is true, I'm relieved. I love the guy's work. He'd have some fun with the concept.
Best,
KEN

Philip *** wrote:

> <<Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
> hehehe!!
>
> My God, what next?>>
>
> Oh come now, Burton's about the best choice I've heard so far (I was pulling
> for Gilliam, but hey . . .).
>
> Can you guys tell me what the following films have in common?
>
> Yes, Giorgio
> Good Guys Wear Black
> Omen 2
> Death Wish 4: The Crackdown
>
> They were all films made by directors of the original POTA series. Guys who
> specialized in generic war films, Charles Bronson movies, an ASTOUNDING
> amount of made for TV crap, and nothing on their resumes that would indicate
> they were "right" for a POTA movie...
>
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For the more ignorant ape fans, who the hell is Burton and what has he done?

By the way, I got the Medicom figures last week and they are great. Does
anyone know where I can get a limited Soldier Ape?

Michael Whitty

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2000 6:16
To: pota@...
Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?

If this is true, I'm relieved. I love the guy's work. He'd have some fun
with the concept.
Best,
KEN

Philip *** wrote:

> <<Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
> hehehe!!
>
> My God, what next?>>
>
> Oh come now, Burton's about the best choice I've heard so far (I was

pulling

> for Gilliam, but hey . . .).
>
> Can you guys tell me what the following films have in common?
>
> Yes, Giorgio
> Good Guys Wear Black
> Omen 2
> Death Wish 4: The Crackdown
>
> They were all films made by directors of the original POTA series. Guys

who

> specialized in generic war films, Charles Bronson movies, an ASTOUNDING
> amount of made for TV crap, and nothing on their resumes that would

indicate

> they were "right" for a POTA movie...
>
>

Tim Burton:

Batman
Batman Returns
Ed Wood
Mars Attacks
Sleepy Hollow

>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
>Reply-To: pota@...
>To: <pota@...>
>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 07:26:39 +1100
>
><< text1.html>>

______________________________________________________

Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON
Great movie, great director.

But I do like Tim Burton, I just hope he dosen't make the movie so trademark
dark as he loves to do.

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip *** <soylentphil@...>
To: <pota@...>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 10:35 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?


> <<Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
> hehehe!!
>
> My God, what next?>>
>
> Oh come now, Burton's about the best choice I've heard so far (I was
pulling
> for Gilliam, but hey . . .).
>
> Can you guys tell me what the following films have in common?
>
> Yes, Giorgio
> Good Guys Wear Black
> Omen 2
> Death Wish 4: The Crackdown
>
>
>
> They were all films made by directors of the original POTA series. Guys
who
> specialized in generic war films, Charles Bronson movies, an ASTOUNDING
> amount of made for TV crap, and nothing on their resumes that would
indicate
> they were "right" for a POTA movie...
>
>
>
>
>
>

>Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
>Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON
>Great movie, great director.
>
>But I do like Tim Burton, I just hope he dosen't make the movie so trademark
>dark as he loves to do.

why not. it would make it interesting..... should it be 'light' instead?






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Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON

And he directed Yes, Giorgio. They weren't all home runs . . .

>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
>Reply-To: pota@...
>To: <pota@...>
>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:18:53 -0800
>
><< text1.html>>

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I think Planet of the Apes IS a dark story. If a remake is going to be
attempted, it should have the berserk quality of a nightmare. Any film about
talking monkeys done in this age is going to be either funny or sick and
twisted. That doesn't mean it should be dark visually, though, which is a
signature look of Burton's (though not on everything he's done).

>From: Sam Rosenthal <blacktape@...>
>Reply-To: pota@...
>To: pota@...
>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:37:16 -0400
>
><< text1.html>>

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.html At first notice of Burton and POTA's, I got turned off.
Then, I considered some of what a few of you have been
saying and now am more intrigued.  Indeed it would add
a different flavor to Apes, and if someone else was to just
make it without being a bit bizzare, it would be just another
'remake,' and I don't want to see the same film all over
again.  I welcome a "different" look to the film.

90-CORVETTE
 

Philip *** wrote:

I think Planet of the Apes IS a dark story.  If a remake is going to be
attempted, it should have the berserk quality of a nightmare. Any film about
talking monkeys done in this age is going to be either funny or sick and
twisted. That doesn't mean it should be dark visually, though, which is a
signature look of Burton's (though not on everything he's done).

>From: Sam Rosenthal <blacktape@...>
>Reply-To: pota@...
>To: pota@...
>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:37:16 -0400
>
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.html Correction from the earlier e-mail:

The Thursday, 17 Feb. 2000, "Hollywood Reporter" says Tim Burton is the front-runner to direct "Planet of the Apes", with a decision to be made this week.

Sorry for the pre-mature hysteria, but nothing's definite yet.

B

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Well, not one director in history has made perfect home runs everytime as
I'm sure you would agree. Including Spielberg.

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip *** <soylentphil@...>
To: <pota@...>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 1:52 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?


> Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
> Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON
>
> And he directed Yes, Giorgio. They weren't all home runs . . .
>
>
> >From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
> >Reply-To: pota@...
> >To: <pota@...>
> >Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
> >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:18:53 -0800
> >
> ><< text1.html>>
>
>

Well, I prefer light over dark but if this means remaking POTA, I welcome
the revived POTA to the big screen.

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Rosenthal <blacktape@...>
To: <pota@...>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:37 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?


>Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
>Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON
>Great movie, great director.
>
>But I do like Tim Burton, I just hope he dosen't make the movie so
trademark
>dark as he loves to do.

why not. it would make it interesting..... should it be 'light' instead?






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Philip *** <soylentphil@...> wrote:

>Tim Burton:
>
>Batman
>Batman Returns
>Ed Wood
>Mars Attacks
>Sleepy Hollow

And let's not forget Edward Scissorhands! (Beetlejuice & Pee Wee's Big
Adventure too, if we want to go way back!)

I find the idea of a Burton PotA film intriguing. I'd still rather they
didn't make a new one at all, but if they do then I reckon Burton would be
one of my choices.

Alan

I purchased the entire boxed "widescreen" set at Sam Goody last year. The widescreen version(s) are also availabe through their sister company Suncoast video.
---
Stephanie

On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:40:44 Pulp wrote:
>
> Anyone know about this? I've looked for it but haven't been able to
>find it in Widescreen. Thanks!
>
>Pulp
>
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the 30 th anniversary was available in widescreen.
i've mostly seen them in box sets though.
try going to diffrent places,though.i have the widescreen box set and it was worth it to see the apes
on widescreen.hope this helps.
brian

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>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:40:44 -0800
>From: "Pulp" <renaissance29@...>
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> Anyone know about this? I've looked for it but haven't been able to
>find it in Widescreen. Thanks!
>
>Pulp
>
>
>
>------------------------------ message 827 ------------------------------
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>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:43:07 -0500
>From: Philip Nobile <pjn1209@...>
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>Pulp wrote:
>>
>>
>> Anyone know about this? I've looked for it but haven't been able to
>> find it in Widescreen. Thanks!
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6305076162/qid=950852609/sr=1-6/102-0743149-9976818
>
>Enjoy . . .
>
>
>------------------------------ message 828 ------------------------------
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>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 06:59:22 -0700
>From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
>References: <88im0s$k2b2@...>
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>In case no ones heard yet, the "buz" around town is that Tim Burton has signed a deal to direct
>the new Planet of the Apes film, so I guess Michael Bey is out.
>
>Get ready for pale faced primates with dark circles around their eyes....
>
>B
>
>
>
>------------------------------ message 829 ------------------------------
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>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
>References: <88im0s$k2b2@...> <38AD503A.5A316285@...>
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:33:20 -0800
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>Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
>hehehe!!
>
>My God, what next?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
>To: <pota@...>
>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 5:59 AM
>Subject: [pota] Burton and POTA?
>
>
>> In case no ones heard yet, the "buz" around town is that Tim Burton has
>signed a deal to direct
>> the new Planet of the Apes film, so I guess Michael Bey is out.
>>
>> Get ready for pale faced primates with dark circles around their eyes....
>>
>> B
>>
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>From: "Philip ***" <soylentphil@...>
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:35:26 EST
>X-Mailing-List: pota@egroups.com
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><<Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
>hehehe!!
>
>My God, what next?>>
>
>Oh come now, Burton's about the best choice I've heard so far (I was pulling
>for Gilliam, but hey . . .).
>
>Can you guys tell me what the following films have in common?
>
>Yes, Giorgio
>Good Guys Wear Black
>Omen 2
>Death Wish 4: The Crackdown
>
>
>
>They were all films made by directors of the original POTA series. Guys who
>specialized in generic war films, Charles Bronson movies, an ASTOUNDING
>amount of made for TV crap, and nothing on their resumes that would indicate
>they were "right" for a POTA movie...
>
>
>
>
>
>______________________________________________________
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>------------------------------ message 831 ------------------------------
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>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 06:15:47 +1100
>From: Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...>
>References: <20000218183526.29538.qmail@...>
>X-Mailing-List: pota@egroups.com
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>If this is true, I'm relieved. I love the guy's work. He'd have some fun with the concept.
>Best,
>KEN
>
>Philip *** wrote:
>
>> <<Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
>> hehehe!!
>>
>> My God, what next?>>
>>
>> Oh come now, Burton's about the best choice I've heard so far (I was pulling
>> for Gilliam, but hey . . .).
>>
>> Can you guys tell me what the following films have in common?
>>
>> Yes, Giorgio
>> Good Guys Wear Black
>> Omen 2
>> Death Wish 4: The Crackdown
>>
>> They were all films made by directors of the original POTA series. Guys who
>> specialized in generic war films, Charles Bronson movies, an ASTOUNDING
>> amount of made for TV crap, and nothing on their resumes that would indicate
>> they were "right" for a POTA movie...
>>
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>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:47:03 -0700
>From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
>References: <20000218183526.29538.qmail@...> <38AD9A63.12001772@...>
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>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 07:26:39 +1100
>In-Reply-To: <38AD9A63.12001772@...>
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>For the more ignorant ape fans, who the hell is Burton and what has he done?
>
>By the way, I got the Medicom figures last week and they are great. Does
>anyone know where I can get a limited Soldier Ape?
>
>Michael Whitty
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
>Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2000 6:16
>To: pota@...
>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>
>If this is true, I'm relieved. I love the guy's work. He'd have some fun
>with the concept.
>Best,
>KEN
>
>Philip *** wrote:
>
>> <<Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
>> hehehe!!
>>
>> My God, what next?>>
>>
>> Oh come now, Burton's about the best choice I've heard so far (I was
>pulling
>> for Gilliam, but hey . . .).
>>
>> Can you guys tell me what the following films have in common?
>>
>> Yes, Giorgio
>> Good Guys Wear Black
>> Omen 2
>> Death Wish 4: The Crackdown
>>
>> They were all films made by directors of the original POTA series. Guys
>who
>> specialized in generic war films, Charles Bronson movies, an ASTOUNDING
>> amount of made for TV crap, and nothing on their resumes that would
>indicate
>> they were "right" for a POTA movie...
>>
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>From: "Philip ***" <soylentphil@...>
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:57:55 EST
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>Tim Burton:
>
>Batman
>Batman Returns
>Ed Wood
>Mars Attacks
>Sleepy Hollow
>
>
>>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
>>Reply-To: pota@...
>>To: <pota@...>
>>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 07:26:39 +1100
>>
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>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
>References: <20000218183526.29538.qmail@...>
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:18:53 -0800
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>Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
>Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON
>Great movie, great director.
>
>But I do like Tim Burton, I just hope he dosen't make the movie so trademark
>dark as he loves to do.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Philip *** <soylentphil@...>
>To: <pota@...>
>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 10:35 AM
>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>
>
>> <<Don't forget the whole movie done at NIGHT!
>> hehehe!!
>>
>> My God, what next?>>
>>
>> Oh come now, Burton's about the best choice I've heard so far (I was
>pulling
>> for Gilliam, but hey . . .).
>>
>> Can you guys tell me what the following films have in common?
>>
>> Yes, Giorgio
>> Good Guys Wear Black
>> Omen 2
>> Death Wish 4: The Crackdown
>>
>>
>>
>> They were all films made by directors of the original POTA series. Guys
>who
>> specialized in generic war films, Charles Bronson movies, an ASTOUNDING
>> amount of made for TV crap, and nothing on their resumes that would
>indicate
>> they were "right" for a POTA movie...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:37:16 -0400
>From: Sam Rosenthal <blacktape@...>
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>>Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
>>Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON
>>Great movie, great director.
>>
>>But I do like Tim Burton, I just hope he dosen't make the movie so trademar=
>k
>>dark as he loves to do.
>
>why not. it would make it interesting..... should it be 'light' instead?
>
>
>
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>From: "Philip ***" <soylentphil@...>
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:52:46 EST
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>Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
>Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON
>
>And he directed Yes, Giorgio. They weren't all home runs . . .
>
>
>>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
>>Reply-To: pota@...
>>To: <pota@...>
>>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:18:53 -0800
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>From: "Philip ***" <soylentphil@...>
>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:55:39 EST
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>I think Planet of the Apes IS a dark story. If a remake is going to be
>attempted, it should have the berserk quality of a nightmare. Any film about
>talking monkeys done in this age is going to be either funny or sick and
>twisted. That doesn't mean it should be dark visually, though, which is a
>signature look of Burton's (though not on everything he's done).
>
>
>>From: Sam Rosenthal <blacktape@...>
>>Reply-To: pota@...
>>To: pota@...
>>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:37:16 -0400
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>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:18:43 -0600
>From: 90-CORVETTE <jpctqm@...>
>References: <20000218215539.99980.qmail@...>
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>At first notice of Burton and POTA's, I got turned off.
>Then, I considered some of what a few of you have been
>saying and now am more intrigued. Indeed it would add
>a different flavor to Apes, and if someone else was to just
>make it without being a bit bizzare, it would be just another
>'remake,' and I don't want to see the same film all over
>again. I welcome a "different" look to the film.
>
>90-CORVETTE
>
>
>Philip *** wrote:
>
>> I think Planet of the Apes IS a dark story. If a remake is going to be
>> attempted, it should have the berserk quality of a nightmare. Any film about
>> talking monkeys done in this age is going to be either funny or sick and
>> twisted. That doesn't mean it should be dark visually, though, which is a
>> signature look of Burton's (though not on everything he's done).
>>
>> >From: Sam Rosenthal <blacktape@...>
>> >Reply-To: pota@...
>> >To: pota@...
>> >Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
>> >Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:37:16 -0400
>> >
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>At first notice of Burton and POTA's, I got turned off.
><br>Then, I considered some of what a few of you have been
><br>saying and now am more intrigued.  Indeed it would add
><br>a different flavor to Apes, and if someone else was to just
><br>make it without being a bit bizzare, it would be just another
><br>'remake,' and I don't want to see the same film all over
><br>again.  I welcome a "different" look to the film.
><p>90-CORVETTE
><br> 
><p>Philip *** wrote:
><blockquote TYPE=CITE>I think Planet of the Apes IS a dark story. 
>If a remake is going to be
><br>attempted, it should have the berserk quality of a nightmare. Any film
>about
><br>talking monkeys done in this age is going to be either funny or sick
>and
><br>twisted. That doesn't mean it should be dark visually, though, which
>is a
><br>signature look of Burton's (though not on everything he's done).
><p>>From: Sam Rosenthal <blacktape@...>
><br>>Reply-To: pota@...
><br>>To: pota@...
><br>>Subject: [pota] Re: Burton and POTA?
><br>>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:37:16 -0400
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>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:21:16 -0700
>From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
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>The Thursday, 17 Feb. 2000, "Hollywood Reporter" says Tim Burton is the
>front-runner to direct "Planet of the Apes", with a decision to be made this
>week.
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>Sorry for the pre-mature hysteria, but nothing's definite yet.
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><b>to be made </b>this week.
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>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
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>Well, not one director in history has made perfect home runs everytime as
>I'm sure you would agree. Including Spielberg.
>
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>
>> Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
>> Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON
>>
>> And he directed Yes, Giorgio. They weren't all home runs . . .
>>
>>
>> >From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
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>>Well, the best film was Planet of the Apes, and that movie was directed by
>>Franklin J. Schaffner who directed the academy award winning movie: PATON
>>Great movie, great director.
>>
>>But I do like Tim Burton, I just hope he dosen't make the movie so
>trademark
>>dark as he loves to do.
>
>why not. it would make it interesting..... should it be 'light' instead?
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>Philip *** <soylentphil@...> wrote:
>>Tim Burton:
>>
>>Batman
>>Batman Returns
>>Ed Wood
>>Mars Attacks
>>Sleepy Hollow
>
>
>And let's not forget Edward Scissorhands! (Beetlejuice & Pee Wee's Big
>Adventure too, if we want to go way back!)
>
>I find the idea of a Burton PotA film intriguing. I'd still rather they
>didn't make a new one at all, but if they do then I reckon Burton would be
>one of my choices.
>
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>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:41:51 -0800
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>I purchased the entire boxed "widescreen" set at Sam Goody last year. The widescreen version(s) are also availabe through their sister company Suncoast video.
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>On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:40:44 Pulp wrote:
>>
>> Anyone know about this? I've looked for it but haven't been able to
>>find it in Widescreen. Thanks!
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I read today in the entertainment section of the LA Times that Tim
Burton has opted 20th
Century Fox for the rights to film the much purported "Planet of the
Apes" remake. No actors chosen yet, but he wants to do a young cast this

time around. Release date: July 4th , 2001.
Has anyone heard anything else??

.html Yes, I believe they'll be using Johnny Depp as Cornelius and Paul Reubens as the intimidating Dr. Zaius :)

Brian Dumont wrote:

I read today in the entertainment section of the LA Times that Tim
Burton has opted 20th
Century Fox for the rights to film the much purported "Planet of the
Apes" remake. No actors chosen yet, but he wants to do a young cast this

time around. Release date: July 4th , 2001.
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Shelby Rhodes wrote:

 Yes, I believe they'll be using Johnny Depp as Cornelius and Paul Reubens as the intimidating Dr. Zaius :)

Brian Dumont wrote:

I read today in the entertainment section of the LA Times that Tim
Burton has opted 20th
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Shelby Rhodes <slave1@...> wrote:

>Yes, I believe they'll be using Johnny Depp as Cornelius and Paul Reubens

as the intimidating

>Dr. Zaius :)

Hmmm, I look forward to seeing that one.
"What will he find out there Doctor?"
"His destiny... and hopefully my bike too! Ha-haa etc."

So are we looking at Ricci or Ryder for Zira then?

Alan

Hey all of you,

You people are total morns! Tim Burton is probably the best choice to
direct an Apes movie that has come along in years. Instead of saying "Wow,
this could make for an interesting movie, rather than a re-hash piece of
crap" (like most new remakes turn into), you just joke about it.

Have any of you actually seen any of Burton's films? Or do you just skim
your knowledge from other people's web postings? Like the person on this
list who didn't even know who Burton was!!! Man, that would be like saying
(in 1976) "Kubrick, um who is this Kubrick fellow??"

I think Depp would make a fantastic Cornelius. He is such a visual actor,
it would play perfectly into the character and the way in which an actor
needs to bring the mask to life.


Quit playing with your ape toys, and think about films again....Jeez!

- Armando (from the old days of this list)

>Shelby Rhodes <slave1@...> wrote:
>>Yes, I believe they'll be using Johnny Depp as Cornelius and Paul Reubens
>as the intimidating
>>Dr. Zaius :)
>
>
>Hmmm, I look forward to seeing that one.
>"What will he find out there Doctor?"
>"His destiny... and hopefully my bike too! Ha-haa etc."
>
>So are we looking at Ricci or Ryder for Zira then?
>
>Alan
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Sam Rosenthal wrote:

Hey all of you,

You people are total morns! Tim Burton is probably the best choice to
direct an Apes movie that has come along in years. Instead of saying "Wow,
this could make for an interesting movie, rather than a re-hash piece of
crap" (like most new remakes turn into), you just joke about it.

Have any of you actually seen any of Burton's films? Or do you just skim
your knowledge from other people's web postings? Like the person on this
list who didn't even know who Burton was!!! Man, that would be like saying
(in 1976) "Kubrick, um who is this Kubrick fellow??"

I think Depp would make a fantastic Cornelius. He is such a visual actor,
it would play perfectly into the character and the way in which an actor
needs to bring the mask to life.

Quit playing with your ape toys, and think about films again....Jeez!

- Armando (from the old days of this list)

>Shelby Rhodes <slave1@...> wrote:
>>Yes, I believe they'll be using Johnny Depp as Cornelius and Paul Reubens
>as the intimidating
>>Dr. Zaius :)
>
>
>Hmmm, I look forward to seeing that one.
>"What will he find out there Doctor?"
>"His destiny... and hopefully my bike too! Ha-haa etc."
>
>So are we looking at Ricci or Ryder for Zira then?
>
>Alan
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<<Hey all of you,

You people are total morns!>>

Uh . . .eh . . . er . . . nah. Too easy.

You're a real people person, aren't you, Sam? I agree that Burton is the
best name I've heard (I said so already), but why so hostile? Do you talk
to people in real life this way? I'm guessing no.



______________________________________________________

Philip *** wrote:

>
> You're a real people person, aren't you, Sam? ..., but why so hostile? Do
> you talk
> to people in real life this way? I'm guessing no.

Survey says: "X" (wrong!)


Lest we forget the battles of the week of Tue, 20 Jul 1999.

Brian

We're not morns, we're simply people who have opinions.
Welcome to freedom of choice.

Alex

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To: <pota@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 9:14 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Tim Burton has opted



Hey all of you,

You people are total morns! Tim Burton is probably the best choice to
direct an Apes movie that has come along in years. Instead of saying "Wow,
this could make for an interesting movie, rather than a re-hash piece of
crap" (like most new remakes turn into), you just joke about it.

Have any of you actually seen any of Burton's films? Or do you just skim
your knowledge from other people's web postings? Like the person on this
list who didn't even know who Burton was!!! Man, that would be like saying
(in 1976) "Kubrick, um who is this Kubrick fellow??"

I think Depp would make a fantastic Cornelius. He is such a visual actor,
it would play perfectly into the character and the way in which an actor
needs to bring the mask to life.


Quit playing with your ape toys, and think about films again....Jeez!

- Armando (from the old days of this list)





>Shelby Rhodes <slave1@...> wrote:
>>Yes, I believe they'll be using Johnny Depp as Cornelius and Paul Reubens
>as the intimidating
>>Dr. Zaius :)
>
>
>Hmmm, I look forward to seeing that one.
>"What will he find out there Doctor?"
>"His destiny... and hopefully my bike too! Ha-haa etc."
>
>So are we looking at Ricci or Ryder for Zira then?
>
>Alan
>
>
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In a message dated 2/24/00 7:18:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
blacktape@... writes:

<< Quit playing with your ape toys, and think about films again....Jeez! >>

Yeah!
Even though Burton is a good film maker and a great artisit, how can we not
joke?
C'mon he made Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, an awesome movie and an awesome
bike!!! A qucik jab of humor never hurt anyone!

Yes,

I found it difficult to be offended by being called a moron by someone who
compares "Pee-Wee" and "Batman" to "2002" and "A Clockwork Orange" - Sam is
far too intelligent to be serious.

Michael (the guy who did not know who Burton was).

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Sent: Friday, 25 February 2000 8:38
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Tim Burton has opted

In a message dated 2/24/00 7:18:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
blacktape@... writes:

<< Quit playing with your ape toys, and think about films again....Jeez! >>

Yeah!
Even though Burton is a good film maker and a great artisit, how can we not
joke?
C'mon he made Pee-Wee's Big Adventure, an awesome movie and an awesome
bike!!! A qucik jab of humor never hurt anyone!

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>From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
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Sam Rosenthal wrote:

> Hey all of you,
>
> You people are total morns! Tim Burton is probably the best choice to
> direct an Apes movie that has come along in years. Instead of saying "Wow,
> this could make for an interesting movie, rather than a re-hash piece of
> crap" (like most new remakes turn into), you just joke about it.
>

Sam,

Get a grip. When I said "Yes, I believe they'll be using Johnny Depp as
Cornelius and Paul Reubens as the intimidating Dr. Zaius :) . . . yes it was a
joke, but it doesn't mean that I hated the idea of Tim Burton or that I even
disliked his films. (I thought Sleepy Hollow was the most effective horror
film to come along in a loooong time).

Just because we joke does not mean we are ridiculing. I joke with my wife all
the time--it doesn't mean I don't love her; I joke at work--it doesn't mean I
don't take my job seriously. Don't read so much into it.

>
> Have any of you actually seen any of Burton's films?

Yep, see above. How would we know what actors Burton has used otherwise?

> Like the person on this
> list who didn't even know who Burton was!!! Man, that would be like saying
> (in 1976) "Kubrick, um who is this Kubrick fellow??"

Well, even if there was a person who didn't know who Tim Burton was, big deal.
I believe this IS the POTA mailing, and so far as I know no one is given a
quiz before they're allowed on board.

Just lighten up. If you can't joke and have fun, then you're living in a
reality far stranger than Tim Burton ever dreamed up himself. --Just a
thought.

Sam Rosenthal wrote:

> Hey all of you,
>
> You people are total morns!

Sorry, am not a morns... or "moron" even. :-)

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Let's go door to door and spread the word of the Lawgiver!

Lighten up and move on.
 

90-CORVETTE wrote:

Sam Rosenthal wrote:

> Hey all of you,
>
> You people are total morns!

Sorry, am not a morns... or "moron" even.  :-)

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catagory, eh?  Moving on... now (and I won't
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Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

 Maybe Sam meant that we're all "Mormons"?
Let's go door to door and spread the word of the Lawgiver!

Lighten up and move on.
 

90-CORVETTE wrote:

Sam Rosenthal wrote:

> Hey all of you,
>
> You people are total morns!

Sorry, am not a morns... or "moron" even.  :-)

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Does anyone have the Japanese POTA laserdisc box set? I need a copy of
the unedited version of BATTLE, and this laserdisc is the only one I know
of that features the full version of the movie. Replies to
lawford42@... and thanks!


Chris Lawless
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Hello everyone,

I had a quick favor to ask of anyone who is willing to help out. Rumor
has it there is a Planet of The Apes desktop theme out and about on the
internet. My guess is that many of you on this list already have it. That
being the case, I really need just an icon or two from that, I don't want to
download the whole theme. So, if somebody on this list was willing to send
1, 2, or 3 of those icons (Zaius, Cornelius, whatever), it would be greatley
appreciated. Thanks a lot!




Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....

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From Cinescape Online:

Perhaps you thought Todd McFarlane�s Gorilla World TV series concept sounded
a tad bit too much like Planet of the Apes? So did Fox. Now, the plug has
been pulled on the potential series.

Back in January, UPN announced that Spawn creator Todd McFarlane was
developing a TV series which had a temporary title of Gorilla World. The
series would focus on a post-apocalyptic Earth where gorillas ruled while
mankind suffered. Regarding its seeming similarities with 20 Century Fox�s
Planet of the Apes franchise, McFarlane was quoted as saying, "When was Fox
granted the rights to be the only people who talked about Darwin?"

According to Variety, McFarlane�s comments quickly prompted the studio to
take action. The trade reports that Fox quickly sent a cease-and-desist
letter to UPN regarding the potential series. Soon afterwards, to prove they
were in earnest about their announcement made at ShoWest 1999, Fox
officially announced that Tim Burton was on the verge of signing on to
revive the franchise.

UPN is saying that they didn�t pull the plug on Gorilla World because of the
Fox letter, but for other unspecified reasons. UPN is hoping to get
McFarlane to develop another project as a possible mid-season replacement
for the network.

McFarlane, on the other hand, continues to be outspoken about the matter
taking issue with Fox citing the network's Greed game show as just another
reworked version of ABC�s Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. McFarlane told the
trade, "It�s always amazing when the thieves call the other thieves thieves.
There are no big original ideas."


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Well, I agree with Fox, they would be ripping off Planet of the Apes.
But on the other hand it would have been nice to see a new version of POTA
on televison.
Hopefully if the new remake make it Big at the box office, Fox would create
a t.v. show or some new animation for saturday mornings.
That would be cool!

Tons of new web sites on the internet.

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From: Philip *** <soylentphil@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 11:54 AM
Subject: [pota] (Nelson voice) HA HA!


> >From Cinescape Online:
>
> Perhaps you thought Todd McFarlane's Gorilla World TV series concept
sounded
> a tad bit too much like Planet of the Apes? So did Fox. Now, the plug has
> been pulled on the potential series.
>
> Back in January, UPN announced that Spawn creator Todd McFarlane was
> developing a TV series which had a temporary title of Gorilla World. The
> series would focus on a post-apocalyptic Earth where gorillas ruled while
> mankind suffered. Regarding its seeming similarities with 20 Century Fox's
> Planet of the Apes franchise, McFarlane was quoted as saying, "When was
Fox
> granted the rights to be the only people who talked about Darwin?"
>
> According to Variety, McFarlane's comments quickly prompted the studio to
> take action. The trade reports that Fox quickly sent a cease-and-desist
> letter to UPN regarding the potential series. Soon afterwards, to prove
they
> were in earnest about their announcement made at ShoWest 1999, Fox
> officially announced that Tim Burton was on the verge of signing on to
> revive the franchise.
>
> UPN is saying that they didn't pull the plug on Gorilla World because of
the
> Fox letter, but for other unspecified reasons. UPN is hoping to get
> McFarlane to develop another project as a possible mid-season replacement
> for the network.
>
> McFarlane, on the other hand, continues to be outspoken about the matter
> taking issue with Fox citing the network's Greed game show as just another
> reworked version of ABC's Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. McFarlane told
the
> trade, "It's always amazing when the thieves call the other thieves
thieves.
> There are no big original ideas."
>
>
>

Come on now- someone has to have this...


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From: lawford42@...
To: pota@egroups.com
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:18:26 -0500
Subject: [pota] BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES
Message-ID: <20000227.160034.-138253.6.lawford42@...>

Does anyone have the Japanese POTA laserdisc box set? I need a copy of
the unedited version of BATTLE, and this laserdisc is the only one I know
of that features the full version of the movie. Replies to
lawford42@... and thanks!


Chris Lawless
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.html I saw this on Entertainment Weekly's website and thought of you.
Personally, I think Hollywood shd make fewer movies and try to come up with
new ideas instead of rehashing movies which are fine in the original format
(esp. Psycho).

Great Apes
The latest about the ''Planet of the Apes'' remake. David Hochman says Tim
Burton and Jack Nicholson would make a great team

I can see it now. ''Get your stinking Scissorhands off me, you damned dirty
ape!'' Last month, when word came from Twentieth Century Fox that Tim
Burton will direct a new millennium version of ''Planet of the Apes,'' I
started digging out my old Dr. Zaius mask and my hirsute Roddy McDowell
action figurines.

After all, an ''Apes'' remake had been rumored for years and I was going
bananas just waiting -- especially after all the false starts. At one
point, Arnold Schwarzenegger had reportedly signed on to star for $20
million, and Chris Columbus and Oliver Stone were both mentioned to direct.
Stone probably envisioned the film as a true story in which apes really ARE
conspiring to rule the world. It's no wonder I was so relieved when Burton
finally came on board. Now it looks like Apeheads will be in monkey heaven
by Summer 2001.

All of which has made me realize how truly bizarre a blockbuster ''Planet''
remake actually is. For one thing, much of the appeal of the first five
''Ape'' films -- from the truly original ''Planet of the Apes'' in 1968 to
1973's truly abysmal ''Battle for the Planet'' (the one where McDowell
returns from the past to stave off the apocalypse) -- was the franchise's
wonderfully low-art sensibility: The latex lips that could only move up and
down; Dr. Zaius's blond Greg Allman hair and beard; Charlton Heston's
overzealous overacting. Not to mention all that unintentionally hilarious
dialogue. Remember ''You cut up his brain, you bloody baboon!'' and the
infamous: ''Human see, human do.''

Still, the original ''Planet'' films -- and the subsequent ABC TV series
and NBC's Saturday morning cartoon -- made me one happy monkey. The
franchise's air of possibility; the ''what if apes really do take over''
quotient was, at times, overpowering. At a certain point in my childhood, I
thought nothing would be cooler than if Cornelius and Zira showed up at my
house, looked at me with their expressive monkey eyes, and told me they
were taking me to the Forbidden Zone. That was, as long as I wouldn't have
to lay eyes on my absolute worst childhood nightmare -- the dark and hairy
General Ursus.

My hope is that a remake won't make those monkey memories extinct. Then
again, if anyone can do the franchise justice, it's Burton. His famous long
shadows, jagged angles, and distorted perspective should lend a new level
of depth and darkness to ''Planet.'' And it would be great to see Burton's
regular roster of actors -- Johnny Depp, Winona Ryder, Danny DeVito and
especially Jack Nicholson -- suiting up in ape costumes.

The script in hand, by ''Apollo 13'' writer William Broyles Jr., is said to
be excellent, though Burton, whose narrative elements tend to take a
backseat to his remarkable visual style, is said to be rewriting it to fit
his simian imaginings. Not that that's a bad thing, if dialogue in the
remake's anything like the original. After all, how many lines like
''That's one small step for Ape, one giant leap for Apekind'' can one human
take? <.html

Polar Lights have announced their APES model kit line up for this year (
as launched at Toy Fair).
They will be:
CORNELIUS
DR ZAIUS
DR ZIRA
GENERAL URSUS
As reported previously, these will be re-casts of the Addar kits and
will be a Toys R Us exclusive.
visit www.playingmantis.com for more ( but not much more) details.

Also Medicon Toy co have updated their site to include the four latest
figures in their figure line.

Best,
KEN

So you don't have to poke around the site in Japanese . . .

Zaius:
http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo10b.jpg

Urko, not Ursus:
http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo11b.jpg

And another I can skip:

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo12b.jpg

I know others will have problems with it, but damn, this one looks
great-

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo13b.jpg

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More members like Ken Taylor and Philip Noble!!!  Thanx for the Mediacom figure info guys!  WOW!

Brian
 
 

Philip Nobile wrote:

So you don't have to poke around the site in Japanese . . .

Zaius:
http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo10b.jpg

Urko, not Ursus:
http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo11b.jpg

And another I can skip:

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo12b.jpg

I know others will have problems with it, but damn, this one looks
great-

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo13b.jpg

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> to 1973's truly abysmal ''Battle for the Planet'' (the one where

McDowell

>returns from the past to stave off the apocalypse)

What?? Was this in a version that I didn't see?

>Charlton Heston's overzealous overacting.

Always amazes me how non-actors accuse actors of "overacting".

>Not to mention all that unintentionally hilarious dialogue. Remember

''You cut up his >brain, you bloody baboon!''

Always amazes me how non-writers accuse writers of "hilarious dialogue".

>and the infamous: ''Human see, human do.''

Ever hear of 'parody'?

>Still, the original ''Planet'' films -- and the subsequent ABC TV series

CBS television series.

>and NBC's Saturday morning cartoon -- made me one "happy monkey".

What was that about hilarious dialogue?


Chris
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Philip Nobile <pjn1209@...> wrote:

>I know others will have problems with it, but damn, this one looks
>great-
>
>http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo13b.jpg

The biggest problem will be explaining to my friends why I want a model of a
half-naked Charlton Heston...

Alan

Hi list members,

following on from a nice email from Terry H, I am subscribing to this
list.

A little about myself:

I'm Mark (as you've guessed from the mail address), I'm 31.
I work with computers (ok ok I write Software, but I am no geek), but in
my own time I write music - sort of like the Avante Garde Music that
features as the soundtrack for the original POTA.
I live in the UK
Just recently Channel 4 in the UK have just aired the first three in the
series. I'm hooked. I have heard of POTA before, but I hadn't taken much
interest (shame on me)
After watching the films, I had a quick hunt round the internet, and
here I am.

Two things:
POTA fans in the UK? Terry Tells me they are very strong supporters,
where are you?

If they want music for a remake - I can make some suggestions, oh and
whilst we are on the subject. If they need an ape extras cast, they need
only to post here - how many volunteers?

Mark

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From: Mark Gould

To: pota

Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 3:42 AM

Subject: [pota] New member of list

Hi list members,

following on from a nice email from Terry H, I am subscribing to this
list.

A little about myself:

I'm Mark (as you've guessed from the mail address), I'm 31.
I work with computers (ok ok I write Software, but I am no geek), but in
my own time I write music - sort of like the Avante Garde Music that
features as the soundtrack for the original POTA.
I live in the UK
Just recently Channel 4 in the UK have just aired the first three in the
series. I'm hooked. I have heard of POTA before, but I hadn't taken much
interest (shame on me)
After watching the films, I had a quick hunt round the internet, and
here I am.

Two things:
POTA fans in the UK? Terry Tells me they are very strong supporters,
where are you?

If they want music for a remake - I can make some suggestions, oh and
whilst we are on the subject. If they need an ape extras cast, they need
only to post here - how many volunteers?

Mark

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>Two things:
>POTA fans in the UK? Terry Tells me they are very strong supporters,
>where are you?

Hi Mark, I'm in the UK too - north of the border.

On a totally different subject, but keeping it PotA-related, I got those two
new PotA T-shirts on Friday. The white one is brilliant, the black one -
well, I've already aired my greivances over this one before.

Alan

.html A group newbie asks: which new T shirts?,  and ducks

The remake rumbles on:

There is no way in which the original should be copied - better I think perhaps to go back to the original novel and give it a fuller treatment.

But what it needs is 'Epic' scope - I don't think it can be done in less than two hours. The message at the end must surely be different, as the modern world is a different place. I have my own ideas, but unless people on this group want a load of philosophy (and a really bad attempt at a scroll) I'll be quiet.

I suspect everyone has had enough of remake thoughts, esp director, cast etc. etc. What we need is not pop art (a la Mars Attacks) though, more Kubrick or 2001,

 

On a totally different subject, but keeping it PotA-related, I got those two
new PotA T-shirts on Friday. The white one is brilliant, the black one -
well, I've already aired my greivances over this one before.
 
 

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Mark Gould wrote:

> A group newbie asks: which new T shirts?, and ducks

Don't know which one he's talking about... however...
Suncoast Video was selling two different POTA's
t-shirts several months ago -- I got the black one. It
has great artwork on it, and the "Planet of the Apes"
logo on the front breast is embroidered in silver. THE
BEST t-shirt of POTA's I've ever seen (or owned!).
They sold out fast though. I went back thinking I'd get
more and offer them to some fellow fans, but they were
all gone. Oh well. Happy aping!

90-CORVETTE

Mark Gould <mark.gould@...> wrote:

>A group newbie asks: which new T shirts?, and ducks

A couple of T-shirts just out:

A white one, which features 4 squares in a horizontal strip - one of Taylor,
one of Caesar (from Conquest), one of Zaius, and one of Ursus. It also has
the PotA logo on it too. Great shirt.

A black one with a huge picture of Urko (with a kind of red glow around him)
in an Uncle Sam style pose (pointing) accompanied by huge lettering "I WANT
YOU". If it was just that it would be great, but sadly there is more
lettering underneath that, which reads "to hunt down all humans and do with
them as you wish for the only good human is a dead human!" which kind of
spoils it. It also has the PotA logo on it.

I'd scan them, but the designs are too big for my scanner!

Alan

.html Hey Gang,

The APEMANIA team has completed restoration on Sal Mineo's original "Dr. Milo" "Ape-o-naut" suit.  We've posted a few photos on the Display pages of the APEMANIA website.

The direct link is:

http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/Milo.htm
 

Let us know what you all think!

Going APE, as always,
 

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM

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Hi there

Thanks for the link,

great restoration!

Dr Milo happens to be my fave from the series (probably because I get
compared to him at work - don't ask why), he's the one ape I'd like to
make up as

M

Dear all

I would be very grateful if anyone could supply me with the extant
fragments of the Scrolls, as quoted here and there within POTA. I have a
small number myself, but I am not sure if that is complete, so all
contributions will be gratefully received

M

Zanuck Back With 'Apes'

Richard Zanuck is returning as producer of the remake of one of the films
he pushed through while president of Fox in the '60s: Planet of the Apes.
Zanuck's signing for the important producing position serves to show how
serious Fox is about getting the Apes production up and moving quickly. In
addition, Zanuck's participation might calm any doubts fans of the old series
have about a contemporary take on the classic film series.

While talking to Variety, current 20th Century Fox Film Group prez, Tom Rothman,

says, "This is a big film with a very very significant director. (Zanuck) is a
pro's pro
and there's the karmic unity of the fact he was here when the series started.
There's
a certain poetry to that."

Zanuck tells the Hollywood Reporter, "For me to come back into this, I feel like
I'm
in a time warp. I initially put this into production when I was at Fox 30-some
years
ago. The idea was so intriguing to me then, and I think we can do better now
because
technology will allow us to improve the look and articulation of the apes."

Regarding working with Tim Burton, the producer adds, "Tim Burton is somebody
who
I admire and have tried to get for a lot of my previous projects, but was never
was able
to do it." Zanuck is said to have already met twice with Burton and the project
and will
do so again after the Academy Awards broadcast, something else he produces.

Now that the project has both a producer and a director, the previously
announced Tim
Burton, pre-production on the project should start very quickly as well as any
necessary
re-writes of Bill Broyles script.

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At risk of being ridiculed for my ignorance, what is Bill Broyles script?
Is it the original POTA script or a new story (I have heard the "new" film
over the past 8 years or so referred to as both a "remake" and a new story
and I have read a variety of scripts - just checking!).

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: philip.nobile@... [philip.nobile@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 March 2000 1:06
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] Apes Producer set



Zanuck Back With 'Apes'

Richard Zanuck is returning as producer of the remake of one of the films
he pushed through while president of Fox in the '60s: Planet of the Apes.
Zanuck's signing for the important producing position serves to show how
serious Fox is about getting the Apes production up and moving quickly. In
addition, Zanuck's participation might calm any doubts fans of the old
series
have about a contemporary take on the classic film series.

While talking to Variety, current 20th Century Fox Film Group prez, Tom
Rothman,

says, "This is a big film with a very very significant director. (Zanuck) is
a
pro's pro
and there's the karmic unity of the fact he was here when the series
started.
There's
a certain poetry to that."

Zanuck tells the Hollywood Reporter, "For me to come back into this, I feel
like
I'm
in a time warp. I initially put this into production when I was at Fox
30-some
years
ago. The idea was so intriguing to me then, and I think we can do better now
because
technology will allow us to improve the look and articulation of the apes."

Regarding working with Tim Burton, the producer adds, "Tim Burton is
somebody
who
I admire and have tried to get for a lot of my previous projects, but was
never
was able
to do it." Zanuck is said to have already met twice with Burton and the
project
and will
do so again after the Academy Awards broadcast, something else he produces.

Now that the project has both a producer and a director, the previously
announced Tim
Burton, pre-production on the project should start very quickly as well as
any
necessary
re-writes of Bill Broyles script.

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Apes Saga Coming to DVD!

Here's a little tidbit from dvdfile.com (thanks to our tipster for
letting us know):

Now, on to the goodies. First is probably the biggest Fox request as of
late, the PLANET OF THE APES box set. Indeed, this six-disc set
is THX-certified and all-anamorphic (yeah, baby), will arrive around 4Q
2000 and features all the films plus an extra "sixth disc" containing
the terrific making-of documentary seen on the Fox Channel, amongst
other places. However, never fear, the sixth disc will be included in
the
box set and you won't have to mail away for it! There may be some other
goodies on the discs, but in any event it looks pretty dang cool. No
price is yet available.

Click here to read the full story
http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/events/studio_day/htf.htm.

I just KNEW there had to a reason to buy a DVD player. Many thanks for
supplying it.

M

Philip Nobile wrote:

> Apes Saga Coming to DVD!

I'm working on a Flash based POTA animation. I have collated plenty of photo
resources from various sites, but what I am really after is some wav files
of the weird funky music from the first film, specifically, the kind of
discordant trumpeting noise that signalled the human hunt. Does anyone know
of a site where I might find such files? I have had a look around, but the
number of fan sites out there is pretty staggering.

Any help appreciated.

from lucytime@...


______________________________________________________

Ignore the last message - my e-mail address is alicetime@...

I'm working on a Flash based POTA animation. I have collated plenty of photo
resources from various sites, but what I am really after is some wav files
of the weird funky music from the first film, specifically, the kind of
discordant trumpeting noise that signalled the human hunt. Does anyone know
of a site where I might find such files? I have had a look around, but the
number of fan sites out there is pretty staggering.

Any help appreciated.

from alicetime@...


______________________________________________________

Philip wrote:

>Now, on to the goodies. First is probably the biggest Fox request as of
>late, the PLANET OF THE APES box set. Indeed, this six-disc set
>is THX-certified and all-anamorphic (yeah, baby),

I'm completely oblivious to all this DVD lark - what does anamorphic mean?
That's something to do with the screen ratio, yes?

Alan

Alan Maxwell wrote:

>
>
> I'm completely oblivious to all this DVD lark - what does anamorphic
> mean?
> That's something to do with the screen ratio, yes?

I'l answer, but first: I read the link, and whoever sent that post to
me in the first place copied the press release word for word, except
they changed "non- anamorphic" to "All-anamorphic". Why? I don't know.

In layman's terms (or as I understand it - feel free to correct me) -
Anamorphic is similar to Cinescope, where the actual exposed image is
stretched vertically into a 35mm frame. It's then projected through a
lens which squashes the image back into its proper perspective. On
video, this packs more visual information into the thinner widescreen
frame, giving greater detail.

I noticed that the regular egroup likes to discuss and chat POTA related
items but would like to keep buy and sell items seperate therefore I wanted
you to know that can now be done.

I have started apecollectibles@egroups.com specifically for POTA items

I run the International Planet of the Apes Fan club located at
http://www.dlcwest.com/~comicsape/apes.htm

This is an egroup designed specifically for those fans/collectors who want
to buy/sell/trade POTA items new and old (all forms of memorabilia)

This is a great way for you to make quick connections with other
collectors/dealers with similar interests as yours without having to bid
through auction houses and/or magazine ads.

If you have any questions please feel free to address them.
Any items related to POTA may be listed for sale or purchase.

Please include as much of a description as possible.
Item description / price / condition / year / maker etc.

Cheers,

Terry Hoknes
apecollectibles@egroups.com

Terry...that's an excellent idea....The auctions become frustrating after a
while. I look forward to seeing what everyone has for sale. Always looking to
add to my collection.
Thanks Rob Reid

.html Hello Sheldon & Terry,

GREAT IDEA!  How can we post some of our new LICENSED Planet of the Apes merchandise items at your site?

You can view some of the merchandise at:
<http://apemania.com/merch/merchandise.htm>

Currently the most popular items are the ECONOMY MASKS and the RESIN KITS.

Thanx for keeping the faith!
 

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
Make-up & Monsters Studios
c/o 21115 Devonshire Street, #109
Chatsworth, California
91311 (a.r.r.)
USA
(818) 576-0739 APEMANIA HOTLINE

Sheldon Trabish wrote:

I noticed that the regular egroup likes to discuss and chat POTA related
items but would like to keep buy and sell items seperate therefore I wanted
you to know that can now be done.

I have started apecollectibles@egroups.com specifically for POTA items

I run the International Planet of the Apes Fan club located at
http://www.dlcwest.com/~comicsape/apes.htm

This is an egroup designed specifically for those fans/collectors who want
to buy/sell/trade POTA items new and old (all forms of memorabilia)

This is a great way for you to make quick connections with other
collectors/dealers with similar interests as yours without having to bid
through auction houses and/or magazine ads.

If you have any questions please feel free to address them.
Any items related to POTA may be listed for sale or purchase.

Please include as much of a description as possible.
Item description / price / condition / year / maker etc.

Cheers,

Terry Hoknes
apecollectibles@egroups.com

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I came across some of the new POTA Kubrick figures at
the following link:

http://www.toymania.com/tokyo2000/Medicom/

I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but I thought
I'd pass it on, in case you wanted to see them.
They're unique...I'll say that much.

Thanks,
Steve

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.html Welcome aboard Jeff!
Thanx for that great article about APEMANIA in the Ape Chronicles mag last year!!!
Keep up the good work!

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM

Terry Hoknes wrote:

Welcome Jeff. For those of you who do not know Jeff Krueger, let me introduce him. Jeff was the first member of the International POTA Fan Club back in 1991.He quickly became the chief writer of articles four our printed fanzine "Ape Chronicles", and also donated many illustrations over the years and his own comic strip "Veetus". Jeff got online in the past year.   He has been in close contact with Bill Blake, Eric Greene and Natalie Trundy. One of the biggest POTA fans you will ever meet!

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