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Did anyone catch the episode of Fox's "Futurama" a few weeks back when
the gang is in the underground city of mutants searching for their pet
and while being given a tour of the city, they're shown a certain
Cathedral with an atomic bomb inside it?

Interestingly enough, the shot of the Altar was an exact replica of the
set from Beneath- the only difference was that the lettering on the bomb
was on the right fin (as you face it) as opposed to the left, and the
lettering was reversed (Omega Alpha). Aside from one of Dennis Miller's
stand-up HBO specials, this is the only time I've seen "Beneath" used as
a pop culture reference. Long overdue if you ask me.
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In a message dated 4/15/00 3:02:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
comicsape@... writes:

<< File: potaPOTA.zip (1047 bytes)
DL Time (28800 bps): < 1 minute >>
Hey what's this game all about?

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> << File: potaPOTA.zip (1047 bytes)
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> Hey what's this game all about?

It's worth watching (not a game, more a shockwave
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You don't have to download it. Pick the *.exe file if
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In case everyone hasn't heard the latest, Tim Burton has brought the
Academy Award winning costume design team and production designers from
Sleepy Hollow to head up their respected departments on the new Planet of
the Apes film.

For the longest time though, the really big question has been who would be
responsible for picking up the make-up design where John Chambers left off;
Stan Winston or Rick Baker. Hold onto your hats folks, cuz Rick (King Kong
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Good luck to everyone involved on the remake project! We anxiously await!

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>Did anyone catch the episode of Fox's "Futurama" a few weeks back when
>the gang is in the underground city of mutants searching for their pet
>and while being given a tour of the city, they're shown a certain
>Cathedral with an atomic bomb inside it?
>
>Interestingly enough, the shot of the Altar was an exact replica of the
>set from Beneath- the only difference was that the lettering on the bomb
>was on the right fin (as you face it) as opposed to the left, and the
>lettering was reversed (Omega Alpha). Aside from one of Dennis Miller's
>stand-up HBO specials, this is the only time I've seen "Beneath" used as
>a pop culture reference. Long overdue if you ask me.

Actually, there have been four or five Apes references in the first season
of "Futurama." The first episode had them going underground into a
"Beneath" like world, at least for a moment . . . Personally, I think it's
one of the best shows on TV. Too bad that Fox has it on at 7pm here in
NYC.....

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I have just read on a newsgroup (haven't managed to confirm it yet) that
comic artist Alfredo Alcala passed away on the 8th April, aged 74, of
cancer. He was one of the many Filipino artists who made such a great impact
on the American comics of the 70s (along with Nestor Redondo, Alex Nino,
Ernie Chan, Tony DeZuniga, Rudy Nebres and many more). Although he worked on
such well known characters as Conan the Barbarian and Batman, he is known to
apefans as the artist responsible for Marvel's adaptations of "Beneath" and
"Conquest" as well as a couple of other miscellaneous chapters for the 70s
PotA mag. An excellent artist whether working on his own or inking others,
and verstile too (he was equally adept at a humourous style, used in such
publications as DC's "Plop!").

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Hello again apefans.

You may be interested to know that Entertainment Calendars are to release a
PotA full colour 2001 wall calendar sometime soon (retailing at $12.99US).

"In 1968 Charlton Heston played the only intelligent man in a planet that
was ruled by apes. Relive the cool costumes and all the around fun of one of
the most famous cult classics of our time with the Planet of the Apes 2001
Wall Calendar."

Alan

Hey,

The calendars sound great! Any idea where they'll be available?




Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....

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Ross T. <smoothrt@...> wrote:

> The calendars sound great! Any idea where they'll be available?

It was listed in Previews magazine, so I would imagine your nearest comic/sf
store should be able to order you one.

Alan

How did these junk mail guys get on to the list?

Chris

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To: alan@... ; pota@egroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 3:16 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Calendar

How did these junk mail guys get on to the list?

Chris

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Further to my recent message, here is sad confirmation from the DC Comics
weekly press release:

>ALFREDO ALCALA DIES AT 74
>
>Comics penciler/inker Alfredo Alcala died from cancer on Saturday, April 9.
>Born in the Philippines, Alcala wrote and drew his own line of comic books
>before working for American comics publishers. DC first utilized Alcala's
>talents in its horror and war comics like GHOSTS, UNEXPECTED, and WEIRD WAR
>TALES before moving on to titles like ALL-STAR SQUADRON, Savage Sword of
>Conan, BATMAN, SWAMP THING and countless others for both DC and Marvel.
>
>Alcala's lines were graceful and moody, and his heavily-textured style
>connected him to a long line of master illustrators throughout history.
>Regardless of the industry legends of his 40 completed-pages-a-week output,
>his work maintained a dynamism and fluid motion perfectly suited to
>sequential storytelling. He was 74.

As I mentioned in my previous message, Alfredo was of course responsible for
a large part of Marvel's Planet of the Apes output, including the whole
adaptations of Beneath and Conquest.

Alan

Hey everybody,

Anyone ever hear of the band Fatso Jetson? Neither had I, until today.
I was walking through this really big, cool music store I've never been to
before, and suddenly a bad drawing of Dr. Zaius caught my eye. On the front
of one of their cd's, their's a big, raw cartoon drawing of Dr. Zaius. I
flipped it over and found two chimps drawings, pretty crude, but I'm
guessing it was suppose to be Cornelius and Zira. Inside, there was a
decent drawing of the ships clock, reading Earth's date and all that, in the
3000's. There was no mention of POTA though anywhere in it though. Anybody
ever hear of the band, or have any idea why some bad, unpopular rap group
randomly put drawings of POTA characters up without any explanation?




Ross (Dr. Milo)

Smoothness is all....

____________

The possibility exists that the scene is merely a mirror of an image from
Beneath. Sorry for late reply but, I'm just back from holiday, trying to
get some more of my POTA related novel done (17 chapters done, 14 to go. Oh
well :( ).

What will the makeup guys do for the remake? More realism, more animation?

M

(another Dr Milo)

lawford42@... wrote:

> Did anyone catch the episode of Fox's "Futurama" a few weeks back when
> the gang is in the underground city of mutants searching for their pet
> and while being given a tour of the city, they're shown a certain
> Cathedral with an atomic bomb inside it?
>
> Interestingly enough, the shot of the Altar was an exact replica of the
> set from Beneath- the only difference was that the lettering on the bomb
> was on the right fin (as you face it) as opposed to the left, and the
> lettering was reversed (Omega Alpha). Aside from one of Dennis Miller's
> stand-up HBO specials, this is the only time I've seen "Beneath" used as
> a pop culture reference. Long overdue if you ask me.

From: "Ross T." <smoothrt@...>

>
>3000's. There was no mention of POTA though anywhere in it though. Anybody
>ever hear of the band, or have any idea why some bad, unpopular rap group
>randomly put drawings of POTA characters up without any explanation?
>

A year or so ago, there were lots of these out, and not just from that
band. Our local comic store had at 3 different CDs from 3 different
bands that all had a cartoon drawing of Zaius on them. Don't know
why....

Hunter
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RE: Apes on album covers.

A good explanation for why the CD company was using POTA images on it's products
might be that statistically anytime a publisher, whether it be for books,
magazines, cereal boxes, or whatever, ...puts an image of an ape on it's
product, sales go up. WAY UP! This has been a fact since the old pulp magazine
publishers figured it out way back when. "Put an ape on the cover and we'll
double the sales!" People are fascinated with apes and monkeys.

Case in point, our Webgroup friend who stopped to investigate the CD in his
local store. Apes are attention-getters, and good advertisers know that.

Just another opinion,

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM



Hunter Goatley wrote:

> From: "Ross T." <smoothrt@...>
> >
> >3000's. There was no mention of POTA though anywhere in it though. Anybody
> >ever hear of the band, or have any idea why some bad, unpopular rap group
> >randomly put drawings of POTA characters up without any explanation?
> >
> A year or so ago, there were lots of these out, and not just from that
> band. Our local comic store had at 3 different CDs from 3 different
> bands that all had a cartoon drawing of Zaius on them. Don't know
> why....
>
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A little while ago Mad TV on Fox did a little sketch about POTA. It was
called "Viva Planet of the Apes". Elvis was just dancing around with a bunch
of gorillas and singing songs like "Hey get your hands off you damn dirty
ape". It was pretty good. I was just wondering if anybody else got to see it.

Heard about it. Haven't seen it. Anyone got it on tape?

Brian

BlakerG@... wrote:

> A little while ago Mad TV on Fox did a little sketch about POTA. It was
> called "Viva Planet of the Apes". Elvis was just dancing around with a bunch
> of gorillas and singing songs like "Hey get your hands off you damn dirty
> ape". It was pretty good. I was just wondering if anybody else got to see it.
>
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The Episode of Fururama that screened here last Friday ( and we're about 10
months behind) featured a send up of POTA as the characters argued over which
movie to see.
The guy w/ the lobster claws ( don't know his name) wanted to see "Planet of the
Clams".
The poster featured his species being chased on the beach by clams on horseback.

BlakerG@... wrote:

> A little while ago Mad TV on Fox did a little sketch about POTA. It was
> called "Viva Planet of the Apes". Elvis was just dancing around with a bunch
> of gorillas and singing songs like "Hey get your hands off you damn dirty
> ape". It was pretty good. I was just wondering if anybody else got to see it.
>
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I have it on tape, but I doubt I could load it on to my computer or anything.

Chris

I seem to remember Ernest Borgnine mention that he played
"Fatso Jetson" in "From Here to Eternity" (the reference was from
the camping episode of the Simpsons). I guess that's where the
band nabbed its name.

Hunter Goatley wrote:

>
> From: "Ross T." <smoothrt@...>
> >
> >3000's. There was no mention of POTA though anywhere in it though. Anybody
> >ever hear of the band, or have any idea why some bad, unpopular rap group
> >randomly put drawings of POTA characters up without any explanation?
> >
> A year or so ago, there were lots of these out, and not just from that
> band. Our local comic store had at 3 different CDs from 3 different
> bands that all had a cartoon drawing of Zaius on them. Don't know
> why....
>
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>The Episode of Fururama that screened here last Friday ( and we're about 10
>months behind) featured a send up of POTA as the characters argued over which
>movie to see.
>The guy w/ the lobster claws ( don't know his name)

I don't know the exact spelling, but his name is Dr. Zoiberg

>wanted to see "Planet of the
>Clams".
>The poster featured his species being chased on the beach by clams on
>horseback.

- Sam Rosenthal

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April 25: Steve Roach "Midnight Moon" (PRO99)
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Judgement of Paris "Signal" (R23)
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A few months back there was talk of another couple of box-sets being
released down under, containing the Apes TV series - what happened? Did they
ever come out? Or did Fox abandon their plans?

Alan

The two box sets containing all 14 episodes of the TV deries were released as
planned on March 8.
Best,
KEN

Alan Maxwell wrote:

> A few months back there was talk of another couple of box-sets being
> released down under, containing the Apes TV series - what happened? Did they
> ever come out? Or did Fox abandon their plans?
>
> Alan

But apparently not in the UK. Well, a cursory net video search found nothing.

Perhaps you have a serial/code number for them?

M

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

> The two box sets containing all 14 episodes of the TV deries were released as
> planned on March 8.
> Best,
> KEN
>
> Alan Maxwell wrote:
>
> > A few months back there was talk of another couple of box-sets being
> > released down under, containing the Apes TV series - what happened? Did they
> > ever come out? Or did Fox abandon their plans?
> >
> > Alan
>
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Try "Minotaur.com.au" or "Civicvideo.com.au" and e-mail to request to purchase the
sets. Failing that, they have appeared on Ebay a few times already.
Best,
KEN

Mark Gould wrote:

> But apparently not in the UK. Well, a cursory net video search found nothing.
>
> Perhaps you have a serial/code number for them?
>
> M
>
> Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:
>
> > The two box sets containing all 14 episodes of the TV deries were released as
> > planned on March 8.
> > Best,
> > KEN
> >
> > Alan Maxwell wrote:
> >
> > > A few months back there was talk of another couple of box-sets being
> > > released down under, containing the Apes TV series - what happened? Did they
> > > ever come out? Or did Fox abandon their plans?
> > >
> > > Alan
> >
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Also try "vidzofoz.com.au".
They are advertising the two sets for $59.95 ( 22.44 pounds) each. You would have to
enquire w/ regard to postage.
Best,
KEN

Mark Gould wrote:

> But apparently not in the UK. Well, a cursory net video search found nothing.
>
> Perhaps you have a serial/code number for them?
>
> M
>
> Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:
>
> > The two box sets containing all 14 episodes of the TV deries were released as
> > planned on March 8.
> > Best,
> > KEN
> >
> > Alan Maxwell wrote:
> >
> > > A few months back there was talk of another couple of box-sets being
> > > released down under, containing the Apes TV series - what happened? Did they
> > > ever come out? Or did Fox abandon their plans?
> > >
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> >
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They were released about 3 weeks ago and they are fantastic!

They contain all episodes in sequential order.

Here is a link to a scan I did of a press release and also the 2 spines of
the outer boxes showing the episode titles.

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/POTAPAL.jpg

I am currently auctioning this on Ebay. I am more than happy to buy the
tapes and send them to you at cost price for fans (about $90US) who can play
the tapes on a multi-system player (these are in PAL system which also plays
on the European SECAM system but not on the US NTSC system).

Michael Whitty (from Australia)

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell [alan@...]
Sent: Friday, 28 April 2000 6:47
To: Apes List
Subject: [pota] Whatever happened to...?

A few months back there was talk of another couple of box-sets being
released down under, containing the Apes TV series - what happened? Did they
ever come out? Or did Fox abandon their plans?

Alan

Hello,

I am new to this list. my name is Ann, and I"ve been AA Planet of the Apes
fan for several years now - once i was actually able to sit down, and watch
an entire film. :)

My favorite character is probably Caesar, followed closely by Galen & Cyra.
My favorite film is definitely CONQUEST of the PLANET of the APES.

Does anyone know of any Ape fan fiction out there? I've been looking for
some for a while now with not much success.

Nice to meet you all.
~Ann

RIP Owen Hart 1965-1999
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Tate 1988-1999
Robert (Gorilla) MORELLO 1937-1999

.html Hi, Ann,

I am Adami, from Brazil. Please, look:

www.mcanet.com.br/lostinspace/apes/apes.html/font>

Yes, I am CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APÉS fan, too!

Bye for now,

Adami

Ann Tate gravada:

Hello,

I am new to this list. my name is Ann, and I"ve been AA Planet of the Apes
fan for several years now - once i was actually able to sit down, and watch
an entire film. :)

My favorite character is probably Caesar, followed closely by Galen & Cyra.
My favorite film is definitely CONQUEST of the PLANET of the APES.

Does anyone know of any Ape fan fiction out there? I've been looking for
some for a while now with not much  success.

Nice to meet you all.
~Ann

RIP Owen Hart 1965-1999
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Tate 1988-1999
    Robert (Gorilla) MORELLO 1937-1999

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From: Ann Tate

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:54 PM

Subject: [pota] Introductions

Hello,

I am new to this list. my name is Ann, and I"ve been AA Planet of the Apes
fan for several years now - once i was actually able to sit down, and watch
an entire film. :)

My favorite character is probably Caesar, followed closely by Galen & Cyra.
My favorite film is definitely CONQUEST of the PLANET of the APES.

Does anyone know of any Ape fan fiction out there? I've been looking for
some for a while now with not much  success.

Nice to meet you all.
~Ann

RIP Owen Hart 1965-1999
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Tate 1988-1999
    Robert (Gorilla) MORELLO 1937-1999

NetZero -

Thanks to our Ozzy apefans for the information on the TV series box sets. I
was pleased to see them, being in PAL format, but I was a bit worried after
not hearing anything more about them. I'll look into ordering them from
somewhere in Oz in the near future (haven't looked at e-bay, but I dread to
think what sort of prices people are hiking them up to!). Anyway, Ken and
Michael, thanks for the info.

Cartoon series next...? :)

Alan

There have been some posts to the list about the Apes
TV series episodes being released on tape in Australia.
Does anyone know of any plans to release this set here
in the USA?

Hey everyone. New to the list. Great site. Favorite one is POTA, then
BPOTA. Big Nova fan. Name's John, located in NY, in what will be the
Forbidden Zone in about 2,000. Go Apes!

Hi all,
I have just learned of some of the extra features to be included on the single
DVD release of POTA in the U.S.:
Trailers for all 5 movies,
Picture gallery ( don't know how many)
Repro of the official 30th Anniversary web site

I think it's being released in July, with the box set being released in Sept.
Best,
KEN

Thanks for the info, Ken. Go Apes!

Hey Everyone!
I just read in the latest issue of Toy Shop magazine...That Polar Lights is
reissuing (4) Addar models..Dr. Zauis, Cornelius, Dr.Zira and General
Ursus..They will be a Toys R Us exclusive this summer. Very
Exciting....Thanks Rob in Philadelphia

This is somewhat off topic, but a few weeks ago an episode of Futurama
featured Captain Zapp Branigan and Kiff in a spoof of Midnight Cowboy.
Does anyone know the name of the song that was playing in the background?
I've heard it on the radio before, and it sounds like it was recorded
late 60's/early 70's. I'm guessing it was featured in the original film,
but I've never see it so I can't say for sure. The singer (almost) sounds
like Glen Campbel. Responses to lawford42@... and thanks.

Chris Lawless
____

Wow- MAD TV actually did something that was funny? It'd be the first time
in about three years...


Chris Lawless


On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 09:20:45 -0700 Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
writes:

>Heard about it. Haven't seen it. Anyone got it on tape?

>Brian


>>BlakerG@... wrote:

>> A little while ago Mad TV on Fox did a little sketch about POTA. It

was called "Viva >>Planet of the Apes". Elvis was just dancing around
with a bunch of gorillas and >>singing songs like "Hey get your hands off
you damn dirty ape". It was pretty good. I >>was just wondering if
anybody else got to see it.

____

If it was the song from Midnight Cowboy, it was "Everybody's Talkin' at Me",
by Harry Nilsson.

>From: lawford42@...
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] Futurama
>Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 15:07:27 -0400
>
>This is somewhat off topic, but a few weeks ago an episode of Futurama
>featured Captain Zapp Branigan and Kiff in a spoof of Midnight Cowboy.
>Does anyone know the name of the song that was playing in the background?
>I've heard it on the radio before, and it sounds like it was recorded
>late 60's/early 70's. I'm guessing it was featured in the original film,
>but I've never see it so I can't say for sure. The singer (almost) sounds
>like Glen Campbel. Responses to lawford42@... and thanks.
>
>Chris Lawless
>____

____________

Mad TV isn't that bad. It's claymation things like "Clops" are very funny.
But they're not as good as Saturday Night Live.

Chris

BlakerG@... wrote:

>
> Mad TV isn't that bad. It's claymation things like "Clops" are very funny.
> But they're not as good as Saturday Night Live.

Is that what you'd call "damning praise"?

Mr. Show kicks all their booties. And now it's dead.

On Mon, 01 May 2000 18:39:12 -0400 Philip Nobile <pjn1209@...>
writes:

>BlakerG@... wrote:

>> Mad TV isn't that bad. It's claymation things like "Clops" are very

funny.

>> But they're not as good as Saturday Night Live.

>Is that what you'd call "damning praise"?

Hell yeah, considering that SNL should've been cancelled about 10 years
ago.

>Mr. Show kicks all their booties. And now it's dead.

Nightstand with Dick Dietrick was great too, and that got cancelled. Just
goes to show you that quality programming usually doesn't last long.
____

Remember Heston's POTA bit on SNL a few years back? Wasn't bad, would like to
have seen Cheri Oteri as Nova.

Apparently nobody on this list has seen any of the recent SNLs. Because the
ones they 've been making recently are pretty good.

Chris

This was on Cinescape today...

"As previously reported, and confirmed again by the trade,
Broyles POTA script is a youthified version of the story with
word that the lead is a 25-year old."

How does everyone feel about the youthful approach to this
movie? In particular, what are the odds of a 25 year old astronaut
commanding a mission to another planet? (If that's where they're
heading with this script).

Steve

I'd prefer it not to be "youthful," however, I will be happy if
they make it different enough from the original so that it does
not just become a "remake." The original is just too good, there
is no reason for a remake. We just want MORE APE FILMS!
Perhaps a more "youthful" version will aide in making it enough
of a new film so that us die hards don't say, "Oh man, I prefered
the original!" (remember when Star Trek Next Generation came
out and you felt a little awkward because you loved Star Trek
but were unsure if you could enjoy watching a new crew going
at it?). JMHO

90


Steve Temple wrote:

> This was on Cinescape today...
>
> "As previously reported, and confirmed again by the trade,
> Broyles POTA script is a youthified version of the story with
> word that the lead is a 25-year old."
>
> How does everyone feel about the youthful approach to this
> movie? In particular, what are the odds of a 25 year old astronaut
> commanding a mission to another planet? (If that's where they're
> heading with this script).
>
> Steve
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Hi, dear Ape friends!

About PLANET OF THE APES remake or a new version...

Why don't to present Planet of the Apes History after Caesar's period?

Adami

90-CORVETTE escreveu:

> I'd prefer it not to be "youthful," however, I will be happy if
> they make it different enough from the original so that it does
> not just become a "remake." The original is just too good, there
> is no reason for a remake. We just want MORE APE FILMS!
> Perhaps a more "youthful" version will aide in making it enough
> of a new film so that us die hards don't say, "Oh man, I prefered
> the original!" (remember when Star Trek Next Generation came
> out and you felt a little awkward because you loved Star Trek
> but were unsure if you could enjoy watching a new crew going
> at it?). JMHO
>
> 90
>
> Steve Temple wrote:
>
> > This was on Cinescape today...
> >
> > "As previously reported, and confirmed again by the trade,
> > Broyles POTA script is a youthified version of the story with
> > word that the lead is a 25-year old."
> >
> > How does everyone feel about the youthful approach to this
> > movie? In particular, what are the odds of a 25 year old astronaut
> > commanding a mission to another planet? (If that's where they're
> > heading with this script).
> >
> > Steve
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I'm not too crazy about it. Sounds like any other flick these days. Just
pandering to demographics. Just write a good, interesting story with
characters you care about, get a solid, capable director, crew & actors and
things should work out. Keep the damn corporate suits out of it! "What will
he find out there, Doctor?" "His Destiny."

In a message dated 05/04/2000 3:49:51 PM CDT, steven.temple@... writes:

> How does everyone feel about the youthful approach to this
> movie? In particular, what are the odds of a 25 year old astronaut
> commanding a mission to another planet? (If that's where they're
> heading with this script).

I'm not sure I like the idea. Although I'm only 23 myself, it seems that by
specifically going for a "youthful" look, hearing a 25-year old complaining
about humanity will sound more pretentious than cynical.


PMilam

Remember the line

Don't trust anyone over thirty. ?

Maybe someone should tell the scriptwriters.


But then I am over thirty....... ahem.

M


pmilam3362@... wrote:

> In a message dated 05/04/2000 3:49:51 PM CDT, steven.temple@... writes:
>
> > How does everyone feel about the youthful approach to this
> > movie? In particular, what are the odds of a 25 year old astronaut
> > commanding a mission to another planet? (If that's where they're
> > heading with this script).
>
> I'm not sure I like the idea. Although I'm only 23 myself, it seems that by
> specifically going for a "youthful" look, hearing a 25-year old complaining
> about humanity will sound more pretentious than cynical.
>
> PMilam
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My novel is set around 3865, about a century before the original story line
for POTA. A very interesting period.

M


tinarosa wrote:

> Hi, dear Ape friends!
>
> About PLANET OF THE APES remake or a new version...
>
> Why don't to present Planet of the Apes History after Caesar's period?
>
> Adami

I believe it's possible that we'll see some new fiction based on the
apes mythos after the new movie is released. However, I'm sure it
will be based on how successful the movie is. I'd be interested in
seeing some stories that help fill in the gaps between the movies.

The "youthful approach" of this new movie really worries me. I will
be VERY interested in the casting when it's made available.

Thanks,
Steve


Mark Gould wrote:

>
> My novel is set around 3865, about a century before the original story line
> for POTA. A very interesting period.
>
> M
>
> tinarosa wrote:
>
> > Hi, dear Ape friends!
> >
> > About PLANET OF THE APES remake or a new version...
> >
> > Why don't to present Planet of the Apes History after Caesar's period?
> >
> > Adami

.html Yes, a interesting period! The real date of the original story line is 3978.

Adami

Mark Gould escreveu:

My novel is set around 3865, about  a century before the original story line
for POTA. A very interesting period.

M

tinarosa wrote:

> Hi, dear Ape friends!
>
> About PLANET OF THE APES remake or a new version...
>
> Why don't to present Planet of the Apes History after Caesar's period?
>
> Adami

 

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In a message dated 05/05/2000 3:03:46 PM CDT, mark.gould@... writes:

> Remember the line
>
> Don't trust anyone over thirty. ?
>
> Maybe someone should tell the scriptwriters.

I took it as being said in a kind of (genuine) cynical, sarcastic manner.
This was right after the young ape (I'm bad with names) was saying some
things about the "older generation wanting to keep us down." Yes, I'm
paraphrasing. I don't know how well that line would come across in a
"youthful" Planet of the Apes. I just can't get Leonardo DiCaprio out of my
head.


PMilam

pmilam3362@... wrote:

>I'm not sure I like the idea. Although I'm only 23 myself, it seems that

by

>specifically going for a "youthful" look, hearing a 25-year old complaining
>about humanity will sound more pretentious than cynical.

Yep, the whole idea sounds totally crap. I can just imagine, apes being
"cool" and using bizarre meaningless phrases like "my bad". And I'm only 22.

However, I would think (and hope) that with Tim Burton at the helm we'll get
something a bit more different. Well actually, I would hope that they just
don't remake it at all but that's me.

Alan

I found this quite fascinating - the prototype for the Orangutan head from
the new remake!

What do you all think?

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=325738126

Michael

In a message dated 5/6/2000 6:01:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=325738126 >>
It may resemble an ape more then the original films make up did, but I
justdonlt think itls as good.

It was Lucius. "What about the FUTURE?"

In a message dated 05/06/2000 5:57:38 PM Central Daylight Time,
mflulder@... writes:

> << http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=325738126 >>
> It may resemble an ape more then the original films make up did, but I
> justdonlt think itls as good.
>

Sort of looks like Marlon Brando with a sunburn, but I like it.

Considering how early things are, that's almost certainly one of the
discarded Stan Winston designs.

becker0715@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 05/06/2000 5:57:38 PM Central Daylight Time,
> mflulder@... writes:
>
> > << http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=325738126 >>
> > It may resemble an ape more then the original films make up did, but I
> > justdonlt think itls as good.
> >
> Sort of looks like Marlon Brando with a sunburn, but I like it.
>
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On Fri, 05 May 2000 19:29:36 -0300 tinarosa <tinarosa@...>
writes:

>Yes, a interesting period! The real date of the original story line is
>3978.

Actually, it's 3955. Remember that the chronometer on Taylor's ship was
damaged when they first landed.


Chris L.
____

.html OK, but you need look the chronometer on Taylor's ship in the FIRST movie, PLANET OF THE APES (1968), directed by Franklin J. Schaffner. The date is 3978.

Adami

lawford42@... escreveu:

On Fri, 05 May 2000 19:29:36 -0300 tinarosa <tinarosa@...>
writes:

>Yes, a interesting period! The real date of the original story line is
>3978.

Actually, it's 3955. Remember that the chronometer on Taylor's ship was
damaged when they first landed.

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lawford42@... wrote:

>
> On Fri, 05 May 2000 19:29:36 -0300 tinarosa <tinarosa@...>
> writes:
>
> >Yes, a interesting period! The real date of the original story line is
> >3978.
>
> Actually, it's 3955. Remember that the chronometer on Taylor's ship was
> damaged when they first landed.

Remember it from what? I don't think anyone ever said that. It was a
continuity gaffe, so you could say with equal "certainty" that Brent
clock was busted.

Philip Nobile wrote:

> lawford42@... wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 05 May 2000 19:29:36 -0300 tinarosa <tinarosa@...>
> > writes:
> >
> > >Yes, a interesting period! The real date of the original story line is
> > >3978.
> >
> > Actually, it's 3955. Remember that the chronometer on Taylor's ship was
> > damaged when they first landed.
>
> Remember it from what? I don't think anyone ever said that. It was a
> continuity gaffe, so you could say with equal "certainty" that Brent
> clock was busted.
>

You see the clock, and while I can't recall if what it says matches up with
what they say it later, I always under the understanding it WAS 3955. Plus,
when Cornelius, Milo, and Zira land back on Earth in "Escape", she says that
they came from the year "3950 . . . something" Her exact words. She couldn't
remember the exact year.

Philip Nobile wrote:

> Considering how early things are, that's almost certainly one of the
> discarded Stan Winston designs.

Could just as easily be a Rick Baker design. It looks very much like his
realistic apes from various movies. "Greystoke" comes immediately to mind.

Shelby Rhodes wrote:

>
> > > Actually, it's 3955. Remember that the chronometer on Taylor's ship was
> > > damaged when they first landed.
> >
> > Remember it from what? I don't think anyone ever said that. It was a
> > continuity gaffe, so you could say with equal "certainty" that Brent
> > clock was busted.
> >
>
> You see the clock, and while I can't recall if what it says matches up with
> what they say it later, I always under the understanding it WAS 3955. Plus,
> when Cornelius, Milo, and Zira land back on Earth in "Escape", she says that
> they came from the year "3950 . . . something" Her exact words. She couldn't
> remember the exact year.

So, Taylor's clock fixed itself at the bottom of the sea? Feh! More
goofs. Beneath and Escape shared a screenwriter, so he remembered the
year HE wrote. In Battle, Caesar runs around saying "In the year 3950,
apes will destroy the earth!"

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Shelby Rhodes wrote:

>
> Philip Nobile wrote:
>
> > Considering how early things are, that's almost certainly one of the
> > discarded Stan Winston designs.
>
> Could just as easily be a Rick Baker design.

Another timeline problem. Since he was "in negotiations" only last
week, that's a bit soon to design, sculpt, mold, cast, paint, and dress
it with hair . . .

Philip Nobile wrote:

> Shelby Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > Philip Nobile wrote:
> >
> > > Considering how early things are, that's almost certainly one of the
> > > discarded Stan Winston designs.
> >
> > Could just as easily be a Rick Baker design.
>
> Another timeline problem. Since he was "in negotiations" only last
> week, that's a bit soon to design, sculpt, mold, cast, paint, and dress
> it with hair . . .
>

I've heard Rick Baker was a candidate for quite a while. If he knew he was
up for it, I don't think it would be such a stretch for him to come up with
some preliminary designs prior to negotions.

The same artists float back and forth between the two studios, folks. Chances
are a few of the artists that prototyped stuff for Stan in 94, will be working
for Rick on the new movie.

brian

Shelby Rhodes wrote:

> Philip Nobile wrote:
>
> > Considering how early things are, that's almost certainly one of the
> > discarded Stan Winston designs.
>
> Could just as easily be a Rick Baker design. It looks very much like his
> realistic apes from various movies. "Greystoke" comes immediately to mind.
>
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I did say /*about*/ a century. Give or take twenty years. I can just imagine
someone (human, ape or otherwise) really laughing at this discussion in.. Now
what was the year...

The way I see it, the period after 3865 was a period of decline, a new kind of
dark ages - superstition, fear. Lots of Borgias mentality, with Inquisitions
thrown in for good measure. But just before was a good period, time for a few
adventurous sorts (forbidden zone aside) to chase after cities mentioned in
ancient books (of the human variety - before they were kept completely under
wraps by the ruling class. Paranoia, of all kinds, and on all sides informs much
of the original POTA film).

Trouble was, they didn't find their destiny - quite the reverse, in fact.

But, there I go, revealing the plot. And its filmed in the best possible taste.

M



Shelby Rhodes wrote:

> Philip Nobile wrote:
>
> > lawford42@... wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 05 May 2000 19:29:36 -0300 tinarosa <tinarosa@...>
> > > writes:
> > >
> > > >Yes, a interesting period! The real date of the original story line is
> > > >3978.
> > >
> > > Actually, it's 3955. Remember that the chronometer on Taylor's ship was
> > > damaged when they first landed.
> >
> > Remember it from what? I don't think anyone ever said that. It was a
> > continuity gaffe, so you could say with equal "certainty" that Brent
> > clock was busted.
> >
>
> You see the clock, and while I can't recall if what it says matches up with
> what they say it later, I always under the understanding it WAS 3955. Plus,
> when Cornelius, Milo, and Zira land back on Earth in "Escape", she says that
> they came from the year "3950 . . . something" Her exact words. She couldn't
> remember the exact year.
>

Brian Dumont wrote:

>
> The same artists float back and forth between the two studios, folks. Chances
> are a few of the artists that prototyped stuff for Stan in 94, will be working
> for Rick on the new movie.

Okay, but since you're in the know, which shop would you guess that head
came from? You think Baker's shop is already making prototypes?

>
> brian
>
> Shelby Rhodes wrote:
>
> > Philip Nobile wrote:
> >
> > > Considering how early things are, that's almost certainly one of the
> > > discarded Stan Winston designs.
> >
> > Could just as easily be a Rick Baker design. It looks very much like his
> > realistic apes from various movies. "Greystoke" comes immediately to mind.
> >
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In '94 or '95 Stan's studio was paid an R&D fee to prototype apes for 3 months. At
the same time Rick was prototyping, on his own financing, with the notion and I
quote it as I heard it "that when production REALLY get's serious about making this
film, he'd show them his designs". Guess it paid off.

More than likely, the eBay item is from Stan's, but one never knows. Has anyone
asked the seller where it came from? Chances are they won't tell. And there's
always the chance that the item is stolen, as stuff tends to disappear from labs
all the time. I'd ask the seller for more info. As a matter of fact, I'll do it
now.

Brian



Philip Nobile wrote:

> Brian Dumont wrote:
> >
> > The same artists float back and forth between the two studios, folks. Chances
> > are a few of the artists that prototyped stuff for Stan in 94, will be working
> > for Rick on the new movie.
>
> Okay, but since you're in the know, which shop would you guess that head
> came from? You think Baker's shop is already making prototypes?
>
> >
> > brian
> >
> > Shelby Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > > Philip Nobile wrote:
> > >
> > > > Considering how early things are, that's almost certainly one of the
> > > > discarded Stan Winston designs.
> > >
> > > Could just as easily be a Rick Baker design. It looks very much like his
> > > realistic apes from various movies. "Greystoke" comes immediately to mind.
> > >
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> > On Fri, 05 May 2000 19:29:36 -0300 tinarosa <tinarosa@...>
> > writes:
> >
> > >Yes, a interesting period! The real date of the original story line

is

> > >3978.


> > Actually, it's 3955. Remember that the chronometer on Taylor's ship

was

> > damaged when they first landed.


> Remember it from what? I don't think anyone ever said that. It was a
> continuity gaffe, so you could say with equal "certainty" that Brent
> clock was busted.


>You see the clock, and while I can't recall if what it says matches up

with

>what they say it later, I always under the understanding it WAS 3955.

Plus,

>when Cornelius, Milo, and Zira land back on Earth in "Escape", she says

that

>they came from the year "3950 . . . something" Her exact words. She

couldn't

>remember the exact year.

3955 is the most consistently referred to date. It was in both BENEATH
and ESCAPE, and also (sort of) in BATTLE when Caesar, Virgil, and
MacDonald were watching the tapes in the dead city. Zira's
"3950...something" from ESCAPE became "3950" in BATTLE because of a sound
edit made during the post-production of BATTLE.

And if you're willing to accept that Taylor's ship was salvaged and made
useable again, it's not much of a stretch to figure that the chronometer
corrected itself (underwater or not). Hell, it could have been damaged
BECAUSE it was in the water. Once Dr. Milo salvaged the ship, you could
reasonable presume that things started working properly again.


Chris L.



____

Just freeze frame the video. The date they land on POTA is 11-25-3978. Great
Thanksgiving! "If only we could get a fix"

I've just always written off the dates due to poor continuity in the scripts.
Heck, they didn't think we would be freeze-framing and rewinding our VCRs
30 years later to get the dates. I just assume the astronauts were
using crappy
70's technology and both clocks were off a bit. After all, Hasslein's
Theory was
not perfected...otherwise it would have been "Hasslein's Law." There's
no telling
how this could have effected the computer's chronometers & systems.

Look at the track record from movies and T.V. shows: We have a total of
2 crashes,
3 uncontrolled splashdowns and 2 dead astronauts (directly related to
the ship).
It's a wonder anything worked on those ships. Just my opinion though...

> 3955 is the most consistently referred to date. It was in both BENEATH
> and ESCAPE, and also (sort of) in BATTLE when Caesar, Virgil, and
> MacDonald were watching the tapes in the dead city. Zira's
> "3950...something" from ESCAPE became "3950" in BATTLE because of a sound
> edit made during the post-production of BATTLE.
>
> And if you're willing to accept that Taylor's ship was salvaged and made
> useable again, it's not much of a stretch to figure that the chronometer
> corrected itself (underwater or not). Hell, it could have been damaged
> BECAUSE it was in the water. Once Dr. Milo salvaged the ship, you could
> reasonable presume that things started working properly again.
>
> Chris L.

>I just assume the astronauts were
>using crappy
>70's technology and both clocks were off a bit.

I love that explanation, actually.

Which means Brent was damn lucky to land at the same time/area as Taylor . .
.


____________

Following on from Hasslein, the timeline could and need not end with the end of
Beneath. Remember, there are many alternate futures emanating from the same
instant in time. I rather like the one where the AlphaOmega bomb is not
detonated by Taylor.

I have also wondered (as the chain reaction effect is no longer a certainty)
whether Escape is also the end. I often wonder if Hasslein knew far more than
we are led to believe - how about apes from 4000+ AD turning up in pre 70's
planet earth, and so Prof. Hasslein decided to put a stop to it with the icarus
mission.

In any case, the timeline can be reopened at any point.

What fascinating futures we can weave upon the thread of time,
A tapestry of empires, battles and decline....

M

Well said. What if Apes from 4000+ did visit the past?

Consider this amusing example: What if a ship from 4000+ ended
up in the past and crashed at Roswell? That could explain where the
technology came from for the Icarus as well as Hasslein's theory. It would
also be amusing to find out that the fabled "hieroglyphics" from the Roswell
wreckage was actually Ape script. Talk about some strange possibilities!


Mark Gould wrote:

>
> Following on from Hasslein, the timeline could and need not end with the end of
> Beneath. Remember, there are many alternate futures emanating from the same
> instant in time. I rather like the one where the AlphaOmega bomb is not
> detonated by Taylor.
>
> I have also wondered (as the chain reaction effect is no longer a certainty)
> whether Escape is also the end. I often wonder if Hasslein knew far more than
> we are led to believe - how about apes from 4000+ AD turning up in pre 70's
> planet earth, and so Prof. Hasslein decided to put a stop to it with the icarus
> mission.
>
> In any case, the timeline can be reopened at any point.
>
> What fascinating futures we can weave upon the thread of time,
> A tapestry of empires, battles and decline....
>
> M
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Even luckier to land at the same time/place as Nova. "I just want to know
where I am"

Speaking of continuity - how will the new movie address the supposed
revolution of apes happening in the 80's?

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Temple [steven.temple@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2000 23:59
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Timeline (again)

I've just always written off the dates due to poor continuity in the
scripts.
Heck, they didn't think we would be freeze-framing and rewinding our VCRs
30 years later to get the dates. I just assume the astronauts were
using crappy
70's technology and both clocks were off a bit. After all, Hasslein's
Theory was
not perfected...otherwise it would have been "Hasslein's Law." There's
no telling
how this could have effected the computer's chronometers & systems.

Look at the track record from movies and T.V. shows: We have a total of
2 crashes,
3 uncontrolled splashdowns and 2 dead astronauts (directly related to
the ship).
It's a wonder anything worked on those ships. Just my opinion though...

> 3955 is the most consistently referred to date. It was in both BENEATH
> and ESCAPE, and also (sort of) in BATTLE when Caesar, Virgil, and
> MacDonald were watching the tapes in the dead city. Zira's
> "3950...something" from ESCAPE became "3950" in BATTLE because of a sound
> edit made during the post-production of BATTLE.
>
> And if you're willing to accept that Taylor's ship was salvaged and made
> useable again, it's not much of a stretch to figure that the chronometer
> corrected itself (underwater or not). Hell, it could have been damaged
> BECAUSE it was in the water. Once Dr. Milo salvaged the ship, you could
> reasonable presume that things started working properly again.
>
> Chris L.

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I figure they're going to ignore the original movies and make this
a "stand-alone" feature. They've never confirmed if it would tie in
to the POTA timeline or not. Nor do I believe it will be a remake of
the original movie. I guess we'll hear more in the coming months
as the parts are cast and production begins. Has anybody heard
any new rumors?

Steve

Michael Whitty wrote:

>
> Speaking of continuity - how will the new movie address the supposed
> revolution of apes happening in the 80's?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Temple [steven.temple@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2000 23:59
> To: pota@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Timeline (again)
>
> I've just always written off the dates due to poor continuity in the
> scripts.
> Heck, they didn't think we would be freeze-framing and rewinding our VCRs
> 30 years later to get the dates. I just assume the astronauts were
> using crappy
> 70's technology and both clocks were off a bit. After all, Hasslein's
> Theory was
> not perfected...otherwise it would have been "Hasslein's Law." There's
> no telling
> how this could have effected the computer's chronometers & systems.
>
> Look at the track record from movies and T.V. shows: We have a total of
> 2 crashes,
> 3 uncontrolled splashdowns and 2 dead astronauts (directly related to
> the ship).
> It's a wonder anything worked on those ships. Just my opinion though...
>
> > 3955 is the most consistently referred to date. It was in both BENEATH
> > and ESCAPE, and also (sort of) in BATTLE when Caesar, Virgil, and
> > MacDonald were watching the tapes in the dead city. Zira's
> > "3950...something" from ESCAPE became "3950" in BATTLE because of a sound
> > edit made during the post-production of BATTLE.
> >
> > And if you're willing to accept that Taylor's ship was salvaged and made
> > useable again, it's not much of a stretch to figure that the chronometer
> > corrected itself (underwater or not). Hell, it could have been damaged
> > BECAUSE it was in the water. Once Dr. Milo salvaged the ship, you could
> > reasonable presume that things started working properly again.
> >
> > Chris L.
>
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In a message dated 5/10/00 3:02:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Speaking of continuity - how will the new movie address the supposed
revolution of apes happening in the 80's? >>
Didn't it take place in the 90's not the 80's?

I guess that depends which time line you are working on - you really need to
re-read Hasslein's theory!

Seriously though, I'm not sure if it was 80's or 90's but it was definitely
LAST Millennium so we have passed it (the script writers probably thought
we'd definitely be post apocalypse by now and not notice!!!). I thought it
was lame how the dogs and cats story evolved instead of allowing the apes to
have out - evolved us.......

-----Original Message-----
From: DrEvil86@... [DrEvil86@...]
Sent: Friday, 12 May 2000 4:17
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Timeline (again)

In a message dated 5/10/00 3:02:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Speaking of continuity - how will the new movie address the supposed
revolution of apes happening in the 80's? >>
Didn't it take place in the 90's not the 80's?

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I think that there's a scene with the statue, that's like a memorial, of a
cat & dog. I think there's a date on it. Sometime in the "90's.

I did too, so my novel has a rather different take on that reason, one that is
a very real result of the latest scientific developments.


Michael Whitty wrote:

> ----------

I thought it

> was lame how the dogs and cats story evolved instead of allowing the apes to
> have out - evolved us.......

Today's USA Today has an article on Rick Baker's ape designs for the
new movie.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/enter/movies/movie434.htm

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Thanks for the heads up on the Baker article in USA Today. It sounds like
they're really going through with it this time. Like the bit about giving the
female lead sex appeal. (I assume he's talking about the ape female lead) I
just hope they have a Nova-esque female human lead. Now that's sex appeal!
"Leave her alone, damn you! Where are you taking her!?!"

.html And about Stan Winston?

Adami

JSe3689836@... gravada:

Thanks for the heads up on the Baker article in USA Today. It sounds like
they're really going through with it this time. Like the bit about giving the
female lead sex appeal. (I assume he's talking about the ape female lead) I
just hope they have a Nova-esque female human lead. Now that's sex appeal!
"Leave her alone, damn you! Where are you taking her!?!"

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