> Here's an ape joke I picked up this week that's sure to offend a few of you
> out there. So don't read it . . .

>Offensive? No.
>
>Lame? Yes.

>2. I recently acquired a screenplay fragment credited to Charles
>Eastman titled "Planet of the Apes" The Taylor type lead character is
>called "Index O'Toole"
>
>Can anyone throw any light on this version?

>If there's enough interest I'll type it up and perhaps Alex can post
>it on his site? What do you say?

>In a message dated 11 Aug 2000 12:27:05 EDT
>LordTZer0@... writes:
>
>That's cool. A lot of people in Germany, Russia and Asia feel the same

>

> Let's see, my first Ape theatrical experience was Escape at the Mid-Island
> North, then Conquest at the Garden City Park East, then a twin bill of Battle
> & Planet at the New Hyde Park Theatre. Regrettably, I never caught Beneath
> in it's 1st release. Planet & One Million makes an interesting double
> feature. Linda & Raquel, some combination! Thanks for the trip down memory
> lane, John
>
>

> Is this a "Planet of the Apes" chat group or an "Arrogant Bitches From Hell"
> chat group?
>
> Please stop wasting space and stick to apes.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Ballard [dballard@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 12 August 2000 3:16
> To: pota@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Deeper issues?
>
> >In a message dated 11 Aug 2000 12:27:05 EDT
> >LordTZer0@... writes:
> >
> >That's cool. A lot of people in Germany, Russia and Asia feel the same
> way.
> >
> What an odd thing to say?...You mean there are ape fans in Germany,
> Russia and Asia who would also rather see Apes and humans killing
> each other?
>
> That's probably true but remember... up is down, left is right and
> backwards is straight ahead. A horse can't whinny and a cow can't moo
> but the cat will always jump over the moon.
>
> See, you're not the only one who can spout nonsense.
>
>

>
> The only time I've seen the movies on the big screen was in 1975 when I went to
> an "Ape-athon" that started at midnight.

> No date Phil... It's only 25 pages, 1st page reads:
>
> Planet of the Apes
> screenplay by
> Charlse Eastman
> 301 Second Street
> Hermosa Beach California.
>
> If there's enough interest I'll type it up and perhaps Alex can post
> it on his site? What do you say?

>
> The problem with scaning it would be that the scaned images would take up to
> much space on my server, but a written text wouldn't take any space at all.

> Well, anyway, the DVD game trailer as well as the DVD interactive mpeg clips
> are now up on the site.
> Enjoy the sneak peek guys!
>
> Alex
>
>

> Change of subject... Hands up who's seen the Japanese "Time of the
> Apes" If you haven't it's worth seeking out... You'll never be quite
> the same afterwards!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Nobile" <soylentphil@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 6:50 AM
Subject: [pota] Deleted Battle Scene


> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=405292306
>
> Here's a lobby card showing one of the deleted scenes, in case you haven't
> been to Alexander's site (but why haven't you?). Kolp is seen showing his
> Asian chippy the doomsday bomb (you can see its fin on the left of the
> screen - it's featured much more prominently in the filmed scene).
> ____________

> A couple of months ago I asked Natalie Trundy to do a e - mail chat with
>this group. I'm thinking of doing another one, this time with Bill Blake. Is
>there interest in this?

>What might work is a romance (not necessarily sex) between a
>human and an ape.

> "Apes" stickers: I live in the Hollywood area and I know a place that
> sells stickers of the 30th anniversary image (Statue of Liberty, Roddy,
> bathed in red). There's also a comics shop here that sells a new sticker of
> the Mego soldier ape with the Fuct company name.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ballard" <dballard@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Monkey Love


> >What might work is a romance (not necessarily sex) between a
> >human and an ape.
>
> A kind of tragic, "doomed" romance... Like in Edward Scissorhands?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Monkey Love - In


> Hopefully not like "Edward Scissorhands". I get the feeling Burton wants
> to expand his artistic reach with this and it would be interesting to see
> him do a more mature romance. Obviously, it wouldn't be the main focus, so
> he could sneak it in and test new themes. - - - Jeff Krueger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Ballard" <dballard@...>
> To: <pota@egroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Monkey Love
>
>
> > >What might work is a romance (not necessarily sex) between a
> > >human and an ape.
> >
> > A kind of tragic, "doomed" romance... Like in Edward Scissorhands?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> There's no investigation necessary. I can get you those stickers. E - mail
>me with the specifics. They also sell a post card with the 30th Anniversary
>logo. Oh, and get this: there's a place that sells a sticker of unused art
>of Dr. Zauis for a "Pearl Jam" album. - - - Jeff Krueger (not Jack)

> Not that Jeff needs a character reference but he's one of the nicest
> and most generous people I know.
>
> If he says he'll get you the goods you need have no doubts about
> dealing with him.
>
> Just one question Jeff (for us Brits) What is a sticker exactly?

>In a message dated 08/12/2000, becker0715@... writes:
>A "sticker" is another word for an adhesive decal.
>

>
> I'll get on it a soon as I can... 25 pages won't take long to re-type.
> OCR technology is just science fiction for me right now. (I bet Phil's
> bedroom looks like the bridge of the Enterprise)

> With an OCR scanner, it wouldn't be a scanned image - the scanner
> recognizes letters and converts the scan to a text document.

> Does anyone know what platform the game will be released on?

> Hi Alex....can you refresh my memory on what the address is?
>
> Thanks

> Change of subject... Hands up who's seen the Japanese "Time of the
> Apes" If you haven't it's worth seeking out... You'll never be quite
> the same afterwards!

Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...> writes:
I also vaguely remember a scene in "Planet" that I haven't seen since. When Zira
and Lucius bust Taylor out and are on their way to the forbidden Zone, I'm sure
they were stopped by Gorilla's asking where they were going. You sometimes see a
B&W photo from the scene w/ a gorilla, Zira and Lucius sitting at the front of
the wagon. Anyone else recall a scene like that or was it my half drowsy 12 year
old imagination ?

 

I believe this is what your talking about.

I always did wonder about this scene myself.

 

Alex

> Meanwhile,
> Zaius kills the chimps and steals the spaceship.

> You are really making me feel old. I was 18 when POTA first came out. My
> favorite sequel was Escape with its tragic romance. I also remember seeing
> Battle in a crowded theatre. I remember the entire audience cheering on

> line " Now fight like apes !"

----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Ballard

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:23 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Stick 'em up!

There's no investigation necessary. I can get you those stickers. E - mail
me with the specifics. They also sell a post card with the 30th Anniversary
logo. Oh, and get this: there's a place that sells a sticker of unused art
of Dr. Zauis for a "Pearl Jam" album. - - - Jeff Krueger (not Jack)

Not that Jeff needs a character reference but he's one of the nicest and most generous people I know.

If he says he'll get you the goods you need have no doubts about dealing with him.

Just one question Jeff (for us Brits) What is a sticker exactly?

Thanks for the kind words, Dave. Basically, you peel off the backing of a sticker and you attach it wherever. Kinda like a patch without the fuss (or longevity). On second thought, that "Pearl Jam" thing is a post card, not a sticker.- - - Jeff Krueger

 

I don't see why you wouldn't just print out a planet of the apes picture on a sticker type paper and make you own planet of the apes stickers.

I've never tryed it, but I'm sure it would be possible if you can get a hold of such paper.

You can try an office depot or office max.

(office supply store)

 

Alex

 

> Damn right I would.. And I suspect those "ape fans" you refer to are
> the vast majority. You go ahead and cuddle up with some furry animals
> and "discuss" your deeper issues... I'll just muddle on in my own
> un-enlightened way.

>
> Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...> writes:
> You sometimes see a
> B&W photo from the scene w/ a gorilla, Zira and Lucius
> sitting at the front of
> the wagon.
>
> I believe this is what your talking about.
> I always did wonder about this scene myself.

>
>BRING ON THE ORIGIAL SCRIPT!
>AND LET THE HUNT BEGIN!
>YEAH BABY! YEAH!
>
>Alex

>
>

> >BRING ON THE ORIGIAL SCRIPT!
> >AND LET THE HUNT BEGIN!
> >YEAH BABY! YEAH!
> >
> >Alex
>
>
> OH MY GOD!... Alex is really Austin Powers!!!!

> > >BRING ON THE ORIGIAL SCRIPT!
> > >AND LET THE HUNT BEGIN!
> > >YEAH BABY! YEAH!
> > >
> > >Alex
> >
> >
> > OH MY GOD!... Alex is really Austin Powers!!!!
>
> YEAH BABY!
>
> Alex
>
>

> You are really making me feel old. I was 18 when POTA first came out. My
> favorite sequel was Escape with its tragic romance. I also remember seeing
> Battle in a crowded theatre. I remember the entire audience cheering on

> line " Now fight like apes !"

>>

>>

>
> 6-inch photo stickers, full body shots, of Zaius, Zira, Cornelius, et.
> al.--die-cut (meaning, printed, so that the stickers were removable in
> the given figure's outline/shape)--
>
> But NOT of the movie characters--
>
> But full-figure photo-stickers--
>
> Of the MEGO DOLLS!

>
> I also remember clearly seeing the FULL version of Battle with Caesar,
> Virgil and MacDonald walking through the room of sick mutants etc,

> I also remember when I was young I saw a shot of the 3 apes in Spacesuits
> inside the spaceship and always wondered where this was on the films.

>
> I also remember clearly seeing the FULL version of Battle with Caesar,
> Virgil and MacDonald walking through the room of sick mutants etc,

> I also remember when I was young I saw a shot of the 3 apes in Spacesuits
> inside the spaceship and always wondered where this was on the films.

> All this talk of stickers reminds me of one of the strangest pieces of
> PLANET OF THE APES merchandising, ever:
>
> 6-inch photo stickers, full body shots, of Zaius, Zira, Cornelius, et.
> al.--die-cut (meaning, printed, so that the stickers were removable in
> the given figure's outline/shape)--
>
> But NOT of the movie characters--
>
> But full-figure photo-stickers--
>
> Of the MEGO DOLLS!
>
> Released in the early or mid-70s (after whatever year the first
> doll-line, debuted), these were available in the large,
> bubblegum/gumball-type vending machines, probably--if memory serves!--at
> a quarter a shot... The stickers came, rolled up, in those transluscent
> plastic bubble-container, type of things...
>
> Even odder, was that one of the photo-stickers, featured the MEGO,
> POTA, "generic" astronaut figure!
>
> The stickers may actually have been a bootleg item--
>
> The vending industry in major American cities has not always been
> controlled, by, uh, "unaffiliated" interests--
>
> But strange, and interesting, nonetheless!
>
>

> In a message dated 08/12/2000 2:14:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
> dballard@... writes:
>
> > Change of subject... Hands up who's seen the Japanese "Time of the
> > Apes" If you haven't it's worth seeking out... You'll never be quite
> > the same afterwards!
>
> Oooo, me, me! I saw it on Mystery Science Theater 3000, but I still saw it...
>
> PMilam
>
>

> In a message dated 08/12/2000 2:14:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
> dballard@... writes:
>
> > Change of subject... Hands up who's seen the Japanese "Time of the
> > Apes" If you haven't it's worth seeking out... You'll never be quite
> > the same afterwards!
>
> Oooo, me, me! I saw it on Mystery Science Theater 3000, but I still saw

>
> PMilam
>
>

>I must say I am extremely disappointed that Fox did not make any effort to
>provide a better package for DVD. They could have AT LEAST used the
>Japanese DVD of Battle and AT BEST chased up all the missing scenes and
>spliced them in where they would have gone!
>

> I must say I am extremely disappointed that Fox did not make any effort to
> provide a better package for DVD. They could have AT LEAST used the
> Japanese DVD of Battle and AT BEST chased up all the missing scenes and
> spliced them in where they would have gone!

I know it's unlikely, but can anyone confirm if the individually available POTA DVD is any different.

 

I just saw the individually released DVD of POTA in the store yesterday, no luck, same information on the back of the box as the one in my box set.

They only have POTA available on it's own for now, then later the others will be offered, all except for Behind the Scenes of course, which only comes with the box set.

 

Alex 

>
> I must say I am extremely disappointed that Fox did not make any effort to
> provide a better package for DVD. They could have AT LEAST used the
> Japanese DVD of Battle and AT BEST chased up all the missing scenes and
> spliced them in where they would have gone!

> You would have noticed a siginificant drop in quality on these scenes.
> The Japanese laserdisc print is not in the best condition, was turning
> red, etc., while the recent release of Battle was remastered and THX
> certified. So, we'd be complaining about that if they did it . . .

>
> I just found an odd tape in my collection. it's (so far - still
> looking) special promotional pieces made for exhibitors that condenses
> the first half of the flicks. Interesting thing is that the piece
> showing POTA is almost entirely built from alternate takes. The missing
> scene from Alex's site is included, it's all out of sequence, Taylor's
> opening journal entry is longer, he says Dodge's name when he finds him
> stuffed (odd, since we don't know his throat is healed at that point),
> etc.

>
> << I just found an odd tape in my collection. it's (so far - still
> looking) special promotional pieces made for exhibitors that condenses
> the first half of the flicks. Interesting thing is that the piece
> showing POTA is almost entirely built from alternate takes >>
>
> Any chance of getting a copy of that one?
> I'd be more than happy to trade or pay for it!

> Philip Nobile <pjn1209@e...>, Wrote,"I just found an odd tape in mycollection. it's (so far - stilllooking) special promotional piecesmade for exhibitors thatcondenses the first half of the flicks." ___________________________________Hey, Phil--I remember that! I've seen the PLANET OF THE APES "digest," which Ialways presumed--as you say--was edited for an exhibtors/theatreowners'"preview..."The scene that was neat--eerie, and kind of haunting--that stillsticks in my mind, all these years later, is when Taylor, Dodge andLandon, are journeying through some mountainous terrain, of the Forbidden Zone--We see a shadow, trailing them...(As I recall, the trio moves out of camera-shot, and theman's/humanoid's shadow, appears over the rocks.) It's neat to find out that Fox did that for some of theother--(all?)--APES films, as well.Best, Jim Burns

> Now THAT I find offensive.
> But for those who don't mind the love scene between the Visitor and the
> Princess, check out this poster!!

>
> That's weird--I tried posting twice, at the EGROUPS site, and just a
> blank appeared....

> The scene that was neat--eerie, and kind of haunting--that still sticks
> in my mind, all these years later, is when Taylor, Dodge and Landon, are
> journeying through some mountainous terrain, of the Forbidden Zone--
>
> We see a shadow, trailing them...

> YEp, that';s shown here as well. Not in the actual film. Another
> interesting thing was the mutants' mass music, while having the same
> lyrics, is different from the final film. And the Beneath reel cuts the
> unmasking mutant mass with shots of gorillas bashing down the door (the
> bashing noise is heard whle the mutants say their lines). Gorillas
> break through as the mutants unmask, and one gorilla gasps, "Their
> FACES!"

> I have an equally bad and club bonus tape with trailers.
> I'm sorry about the image size. Here's a smaller one instead.

> Here's a listing of ape pics I have on file. Those more motivated than
> me are free to steal them and put them on your webpages. Sizes vary -
> many are from Ebay, some are scans from my collection. Quite a few I've
> never seen before (both "ending" and "ending2", for example). Anything
> with "deleted" in its name are of special interest.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/rodman1209/pota/

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

Does anyone have a picture of the medicom ape-o-naut figures?I thought the image on spleenworld was one, but it doesn't seem to be. Alex

>
> Try this for a pic of at least Ape-o-naut Cornelius . . .
> http://www.justbetoys.com/new/ape_vinyl.jpg

> Shelby Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > Try this for a pic of at least Ape-o-naut Cornelius . . .
> > http://www.justbetoys.com/new/ape_vinyl.jpg
>
> That's Zira - no pics released of astro Cornelius or Milo yet.
>
>

>
> Damn. She's lookin' pretty ugly then.
> Guess I didn't even notice the hair.

B
 

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

 Does anyone have a picture of the medicom ape-o-naut figures?I thought the image on spleenworld was one, but it doesn't seem to be. Alex

> Okay, so, for better or worse, I took the plunge and bought an Apemania
> Cornelius outfit for this year's Halloween. It arrived last week, and I
> wanted to let the list know what a superior job Brian and Co. did with
> this piece. I guess we'll start at the top. I don't know the tailoring
> terms, so bear with me.
>
> The Jacket: HEAVY green fabric (cotton? Wool? Canvas? I'm not sure),
> expertly tailored, with a kind of satiny interior that covers the entire
> inside of the top. Cloth brown undersleeves that look as if I could
> fray them appropriately if I dared. Brown leather detailing that is
> absolutely perfect. The leather is genuine, and very thick. You realize
> that these must have been AWFUL costumes to wear in the desert. The
> "glyph" designs on the chest and sleeves seem to be rubber, matched
> perfectly to the leather with paint. Nicely hidden zipper up the back.
>
> Pants: Not much to mess up here, but the cut and stitching is exactly as
> it is in the film. No shortcuts taken.
>
> Shoes: Forget the pics on the site, which seems to show shoes with a
> thumb added - these have individual toes, look almost exactly as they do
> in the film. The soles have a Planet of the Apes logo on them. Apemania
> included two pairs of green socks, as well.
>
> The costume is so perfect, that I'm now reconsidering wearing it come
> Halloween. One spilled drink and I'll have to go hang myself. I'm
> thinking of making it a display piece, but who knows. Right now, I'm
> just enjoying the craftsmanship. It looks like it came out of the
> film. A completely professional piece.
>
> In summary, if you're a big frigging geek like myself, and you are prone
> to such outlandish purchases, look no further. Apemania delivers.
> Hard. Plus, it's much cooler than, say, a full size Stormtrooper
> display. Boba Fett, even.
>
> Note to Brian: Have you considered making/offering any of the
> following:
>
> Slave ape jumpsuits (I know they're everywhere on Ebay, but still)?
> Mutant outfits (mutant leaders, guards, mass robes and masks)?
> Caesar's "Shaft" outfit from the beginning of Conquest (if he was in
> hiding, why wear an all-leather Ape City outfit?? You have any
> backstory on that costume?)?
> Generic chimps (no chest glyphs and green leather sleeve details)?
>
> Thanks for reading, all, and if you want me to rave about apemania to
> you privately, write and axe.
>
>

>Are then completely brown. In the PIC they look as if they have specks on
>the of some different color thread.

>As far as your list of other costumes for the APEMANIA artisians to offer,
>we are always willing to embrace "special orders", and yours is not the
>first to enqire about the Milo, err Caesar, Conquest leather jacket. That
>would be an easy one to fill.

>The Astronauts - we would have to assemble some of the orginals from
>private collections
>to make our patterns, and those babies have pretty much been parted out all
>over the globe now.

>If enuff
>interest is shown for the human characters' wardrobes, we may add it to the
>catalogue.

>PS: The Glyphs on the orginal male Chimpanzee costumes consisted of 2
>vac-u-formed plastic "E=MC2" glyphs on the sleeves

>Does anybody know where I can rent out a Planet of the Apes costume or
>possibly buy one?

> Does anybody know where I can rent out a Planet of the Apes costume or
> possibly buy one?
> Sincerely,
> Chris
>
>

> In a message dated 08/14/2000 2:12:56 AM Central Daylight Time,
> pjn1209@... writes:
>
> << Cloth brown undersleeves that look as if I could
> fray them appropriately if I dared. >>
>
> Are then completely brown. In the PIC they look as if they have specks on
> the of some different color thread.
>
>