> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=407335191

Brian

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

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Holy Smokes! $360!
Is that thing made out of Gold or What!

If that's worth $360, then Brian's Apemania resins are priceless!!

Oh my God! Now I've seen everything.

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> Maybe I've been out of THE PLANET OF THE APES scene, for way too long--
>
> But what can possibly make this statue, worth so much?
>
> In my "absence"--
>
> :-)
>
> --Has this become "rare"?
>
> ....'Scratching my monkey head....
>
> Best, Jim
>
>

> > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=407335191

> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=407335191
>
> isn't it odd the name Zira is spelled wrong on the statue?

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=407335191
>
> isn't it odd the name Zira is spelled wrong on the statue?

Well, that could make the price go up, but if it was really made by some guy
in his workshop who did or didn't know better, It would still be worthless.

And all that you would have is some guys piece of crap.
With $360.00 worth of toilet paper out of your pocket.
Now that's a real bad spot to be in.
But on the other hand, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, so to each his
own taste I guess.

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> In a message dated 08/13/2000 3:37:34 AM Central Daylight Time,
> mark.gould@... writes:
>
> << Plus I can't believe that Fox aren't
> watching this channel. >>
>
> Maybe . . . They are !?!
>
>

> So, in the time it took for Ursus and Zaius to leave Ape City for the
> Forbidden Zone and blow up the world (how long was that? Didn't Roddy say
> it was a 2 day trip to the Zone in the first film?), Cornelius, Milo and
> Zira somehow secretly resurrect Taylor's ship and drain the water, flying
> back to LA in 73. Why didn't the military comment on the whithered, salted
> corpse of Stewart lying inside the ship?? Surely the apes didn't have time
> to remove her before lift off. Yet there's nary a mention of her dead husk
> being discovered inside the capsule. You know what this means? Those filthy
> apes ATE her. Dined on Blonde Jerky. That's wrong.
>
> A moment of silence for the eaten Stewart:
>
> http://icarus.simplenet.com/ApesShip/Gallery/Costumes/Stewart03.jpg
>
> I'm going to the hood to get my Tupac-style "grieving portrait" t shirt
> made.
>
> By the way, has anyone ever tracked down what happened to either Stewart
> (Dianne Stanley) or Landon (Robert Gunner)? Neither were ever credited in
> anything ever again, far as I can tell. Anyone know?
> Bonus points if you can name the 85 year old they made up as her corpse:
>
> http://icarus.simplenet.com/ApesShip/Gallery/Costumes/costume06.jpg
>
> That is all.
> ____________

>Linda (Harrison) told me that Dianne Stanley does the convention circuit
>from
>time to time, so those apes didn't eat her after all. More for us!

>Why didn't the military comment on the whithered, salted

>In the Apesfan special there's a thought provoking theory that there
>was actually a third ship and this was the one that Milo found.
>
>If you don't have the special let me know and I'll dig it out,
>re-read and elaborate for you.

>Skippers Name: Someone once suggested Maddox... Looks like it could well be.


>Is that the black and white thing with Roddy on the cover? Jeff K wrote some
>stuff for it? I have it, don't remember the theory.

>Not perfect but I like it.

>>Skippers Name: Someone once suggested Maddox... Looks like it could well
>>be.

>Brent and Skipper (Maddox) are also technically part of Taylors crew
>and their shuttle is launched from the same mothership

>Did anyone tell Taylor? His shit sinks, and he's all "Okay. We're here to
>stay." Seems he wouldn't be quite so resigned if there was a ship in orbit,
>with other crew members on it, waiting for him. Plus, the lines "Get out a
>last signal! . . To Earth, that we've landed", indicated there's no one up
>there for him to communicate with.

><< Plus, the lines "Get out a last signal! . . To Earth, that we've
>landed",
>indicated there's no one up there for him to communicate with. >>
>
>Obviously Icaraus was equipped with some sort of tachyon transmitter,
>enabled
>them to send coded message from future to past. Right??

>When he's giving his little journal entry in the first scene, he's looking
>at the date meter, which reads 2673 (around the time John Huston is reading
>to all the lil chid-ren). He says "You who are reading me now are a
>different breed, I hope a better one."
>
>Conclusion: George Taylor was an incompetent.

> In a message dated 8/15/0 1:34:21 PM, soylentphil@... writes:
> << Conclusion: George Taylor was an incompetent. >>
>
> Either that or the Serling & co. needed him to say stuff. Waking up and
> transmitting a message to Earth was more than likely a protocol they were
> supposed to follow immediately upon landing. Or something. Sounds
> mission-oriented, at least.
>
> Anyone ever bother to wonder what the hell caused the ship's return to Earth?
> And if they looked into the night sky, wouldn't the constellations have been
> the same? ....and, say, Corny boy, how the f*ck can you speak, read & write
> ENGLISH?! By gum, I've been home the whole time.....
>
> Bothered me more when they credited him as "George" at the end, since he'd
> never been acknowledged as such in the film. From the same people who
> credited one of the mutants simply as "Negro" in the sequel.
>
>

> >Did anyone tell Taylor? His shit sinks, and he's all "Okay. We're here to
> >stay." Seems he wouldn't be quite so resigned if there was a ship in

> >with other crew members on it, waiting for him. Plus, the lines "Get out

> >last signal! . . To Earth, that we've landed", indicated there's no one up
> >there for him to communicate with.
>
> Err... perhaps he meant "we're here to stay for two or three weeks."
> And err... Ummm.. "Get out a last signal from this particular ship!"
> and errr... Ummmm... Oh Bugger it! It's not my theory anyway!

>I don't see why you wouldn't just print out
>a planet of the apes picture on a sticker
>type paper and make you own planet of the
>apes stickers.
>
>I've never tryed it, but I'm sure it would
>be possible if you can get a hold of such
>paper.

>I would also love to see a planet of the apes chess game for PC, like they
>did for star wars.

>Mention of the 30th Anniversary poster-image used for the boxed set,
>brings a question to mind:
>
>Does anyone or can anyone scan in and bung on website a scan of the blue
>version of this - the widescreen version of the poster?

>Anyone ever bother to wonder what the hell caused the ship's return to
>Earth?
> And if they looked into the night sky, wouldn't the constellations have
>been
>the same?

> ....and, say, Corny boy, how the f*ck can you speak, read & write
>ENGLISH?! By gum, I've been home the whole time.....

>Bothered me more when they credited him as "George" at the end, since he'd
>never been acknowledged as such in the film. From the same people who
>credited one of the mutants simply as "Negro" in the sequel.

> I'll keep throwing these out until I run out of steam (probably Friday):
>
> In both PLANET, BENEATH, and BATTLE, the only female apes we ever see are
> chimps. We NEVER see a female gorilla (although an unsed costume is floating
> around out there, and was sold on Ebay a year or two ago). Even more
> suspect is the orangutan situation. Not only do we never see a female
> orangutan, but the male orangutans all seem a bit, well, prissy. All but
> John Huston, of course. What up with that? Clearly the orangs were the most
> flamboyant, with their orange leather and blonde hair, but how were they
> procreating? One must wonder.
>
> By the way, anyone have a shot of that female gorilla outfit? There was a
> great pic taken when it was up for auction, but the only pic I can find now
> is on the apemania site, a snapshot taken by the guy who now owns it.
> Anyone?
> ____________

>My question for you folks--and forgive me if this has been covered here,
>previously--is what is the provenance of these?
>
>Have the costumes that have turned up, been legit?
>
>And, I suppose it's an interesting question, as to why they are
>available in such seeming abundance....?

>From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] Your Ape thought of the day - Where da women at?
>Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 07:36:16 -0700
>
>Hate to correct you here Phil, but we DO actually catch a glimps
>(glymphs(sp?)
>it's too early for spelling) of the female gorilla in the funeral scene in
>PLANET when the little boy gorilla starts the ruckuss by pointing out
>Heston.
>It's a blurr, but she IS there and she's wearing a purple shroud with a
>hood
>over her female gorilla costume.
>
>Here's a pic of the outfit now owned by a collector in new york. I think I
>have a frame from the video somewheres as well, thanx to a fan in Spain who
>"grabbed" it.
>
>Brian
>
>Philip Nobile wrote:
>
> > I'll keep throwing these out until I run out of steam (probably Friday):
> >
> > In both PLANET, BENEATH, and BATTLE, the only female apes we ever see
>are
> > chimps. We NEVER see a female gorilla (although an unsed costume is
>floating
> > around out there, and was sold on Ebay a year or two ago). Even more
> > suspect is the orangutan situation. Not only do we never see a female
> > orangutan, but the male orangutans all seem a bit, well, prissy. All
>but
> > John Huston, of course. What up with that? Clearly the orangs were the
>most
> > flamboyant, with their orange leather and blonde hair, but how were they
> > procreating? One must wonder.
> >
> > By the way, anyone have a shot of that female gorilla outfit? There was
>a
> > great pic taken when it was up for auction, but the only pic I can find
>now
> > is on the apemania site, a snapshot taken by the guy who now owns it.
> > Anyone?
> > ____________

> Look for the museum scene (58:10 on my counter) - the stuffed humans in
> the foreground are moving! Never noticed before.
>
> It's like I said, It's like watching it for the first time.
> Amazing detail!
>
> Alex
>
>

> That's odd. I've noticed since as long as I can remember and it's always
> bothered me a little bit. And Dodge is kinda swaying in the shot where

> gets nicked by a gorilla bullet.

>
> What Phil is talking about are the humans in the
> background.

>A couple of months ago I asked Natalie Trundy to do a e - mail chat
>with this group. I'm thinking of doing another one, this time with Bill
>Blake. Is there interest in this.

>>Skippers Name: Someone once suggested Maddox... Looks like it could

>Wow! Good call! I think I got almost all the names now - George

>John Brent, Skipper Maddox,

>>Brent and Skipper (Maddox) are also technically part of Taylors crew
>>and their shuttle is launched from the same mothership

>Did anyone tell Taylor? His shit sinks, and he's all "Okay. We're
>here to stay." Seems he wouldn't be quite so resigned if there was a

>orbit, with other crew members on it, waiting for him. Plus, the lines

>out a last signal! . . To Earth, that we've landed", indicated there's

>one up there for him to communicate with.

>Interesting story, but POTA seems to have just enough details to
>withstand almost any attack on its plot holes . . .

>Hi--

>Just a quick question, out of nothing but my own curiosity:

>How many folks here, saw any of the APES films, upon their first

>> Yep, that's shown here as well. Not in the actual film. Another
>> interesting thing was the mutants' mass music, while having the
>> same lyrics, is different from the final film. And the Beneath reel

>> the unmasking mutant mass with shots of gorillas bashing down the door

>> (the bashing noise is heard while the mutants say their lines).

>> break through as the mutants unmask, and one gorilla gasps, "Their
>> FACES!"

>In that scene you also notice the bomb rising from a top angle.
>(looking down towards the bomb as it rises) Cool scene. They should have

>that one in.

> No sooner do I read Phil Nobile's comments about the APES extras
> costumes from CONQUEST F THE PLANET OF THE APES frequently being on
> EBAY--
>
> Then I see one, now up for auction!
>
> My question for you folks--and forgive me if this has been covered
> here,
> previously--is what is the provenance of these?
>
> Have the costumes that have turned up, been legit?
>
> And, I suppose it's an interesting question, as to why they are
> available in such seeming abundance....?
>
> Also, as best this can be determined (!), what's the average price the
>
> "jumpsuits" have been going for?
>
> Yikes: That's a lot of questions!
>
> As always, thank you for your time.
>
> Best, Jim Burns
>
> ---------------
>

> >My question for you folks--and forgive me if this has been covered here,
> >previously--is what is the provenance of these?
> >
> >Have the costumes that have turned up, been legit?
> >
> >And, I suppose it's an interesting question, as to why they are
> >available in such seeming abundance....?
>
> Jim-
>
> Apparently, and I'm sure Brian can elaborate, these outfits were in stock at
> the Fox wardrobe dept. way before Conquest was produced, and the various
> colors had turned up in several sci-fi TV shows and films (not certain, but
> Land of the Giants and Time Tunnel are popping into my mind right now). So
> there's no shortage of them, but I see far more Beneath background gorilla
> costumes than slave suits.
>
> I have no idea what the going price is, but the $400 one on Ebay seems
> typical. I never see them offered with the shoes though. (By the way, the
> slaves were just wearing normal human dress shoes, color-coordinated with
> their suits, weren't they?)
> ____________

>
> What Phil is talking about are the humans in the
> background.

>As I said, the ones I'm speaking of are in the FOREGROUND. One's
>holdiing something in the air, and he's having a tough time keeping it
>steady.

>I do remember seeing PLANET and BENEATH on CBS in the early 70's on >The
>Friday Night Movie. Vague memories of PLANET, but more of BENEATH. >I was
>playing in my sister's room and kept coming out to catch different bits.
>To this day I recall my Mother telling my Father (he was reading a book)
>to look up because the mutants were taking off their faces. I was hooked.

>
> And what DVD does is bring out the incredible quality and color of
> this film as I first saw it as a child on the CBS Friday Movie.

>
>
> I've just read a small snippet in a computer game mag that says the POTA game has been confirmed as being for the Dreamcast. I thought it was going to be a Playstation title. Anyone know anything on this?

jameshburns@... wrote:

Hey, Phil, Brian, All--

Thanks for the info!

But Brian, here's one moe queston--

If the jumpsuits used in CONQUEST weren't originally acquired from
Western--

Did some of them, LATER, wind up, at Western Costume?

YUP!  Back in the days, WESTERN was THE place for all lonely studio costumes to go.  So you can pretty much guess that there were all makes and manufacturers represented in their huge stock.

 

The enclosed, below, EBAY auction, has the Western Costume insignia....

CORRECTION:  I saw no "insignia" on that auction, just text that reads:
 

            "CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES" SCREEN WORN JUMPSUIT. THIS IS A GREEN
         JUMPSUIT THAT WAS AQUIRED ORIGINALLY FROM WESTERN COSTUME. THE OUTFIT IS IN
                              GREAT SHAPE, AND IS A VERY COLLECTIBLE MOVIE COSTUME.

 
In other words--if a jumpsuit was purchased from Western, does that
necessarily mean, it's a bogus CONQUEST item?

Chances are pretty good that it was used in CONQUEST, because there were so many extras cast in the crowd scenes.  And most of the JUMPSUITS I have seen come out of cold storage have been in really great shape, so they may not have been used all that much.  There's always a chance, a small chance, that some of them were never worn but just stayed on a rack as "spares" through filming.  The choice ones to get are the ones with RODDY's name in them, and my understanding is that there are at least 5 of those.

Brian

 

Thanks, again, for the help!

Best, Jim Burns

(Who clearly, again, is spending too much time, thinking about APES...!)

A soul can never spend too much time thinking about apes, but then who am I to talk?

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
and just plain "nutzo" over POTA

 

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> The choice ones to get are the ones with RODDY's name in them, and
>my understanding is that there are at least 5 of those.

>How does Phil have time for a girlfriend? He's always either chatting
>or watching DVD's! What's the secret Phil?

>
> Okay, fine, but where did his (Roddy's Conquest) Shaft style costume end
> up?
>
> Burning questions . . .
>

>Also where's that pic from of the Apes face on the back of "Battle"
>It looks pretty demonic.

----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Nobile <pjn1209@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Beneath


Alexander Ruiz wrote:
>
> And what DVD does is bring out the incredible quality and color of
> this film as I first saw it as a child on the CBS Friday Movie.

I think that's just about impossible, Alex. In the 70s, they ran most
movies on TV as 16mm prints, and the image quality was, well, crap. I'm
sure you remembered it vividly, and it's cool that the discs restored
that feeling to you, but broadcast quality of movies in the 70s was
lower than your average pan and scan VHS. I was showing that dupey,
washed out rarities tape to my girlfriend, and told her that THAT was
what the films looked like on TV in the 70s. What do you think?

>Well, that I know, I too have the behind the planet of the apes video tape.
>And now DVD. What I'm talking about are the "STAGE SETS" of the underground
>city and colors used.GENIUS work! pure genius!

> up?
>
> Burning questions . . . >>

>>

>>

>You know Phil there's added footage on the Behind the Planet of the Apes
>Doc. on DVD!
>Natalie Trundy is interviewed in the Conquest part of the Disc!