>Hey Phil, this Hello Dolly Stage footage is also on the DVD version but not
>the original tape!
>Wow, I've got to see this whole thing tonight!

>Hey Phil, this Hello Dolly Stage footage is also on the DVD version but not
>the original tape!
>Wow, I've got to see this whole thing tonight!

>Hey Phil, this Hello Dolly Stage footage is also on the DVD version but not
>the original tape!
>Wow, I've got to see this whole thing tonight!

>From: "Philip Nobile" <soylentphil@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] Your Ape thought of the day - Disgusting animals
>Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:51:26 EDT
>
>
> >Linda (Harrison) told me that Dianne Stanley does the convention circuit
> >from
> >time to time, so those apes didn't eat her after all. More for us!
>
>Without ever having done another film? Wild.
>
>We may have discussed this, but what was Brent's dead CO's name? I can't
>quite make it out here:
>
>http://icarus.simplenet.com/ApesShip/Gallery/Costumes/costume29.jpg
>
>Anyone? Anyone?
>
>____________

>>

>
>That's one hell of a POTA Web Site Phil.
>Wow, puts mine to shame.
>Where do I hide my face?
>

>On the documentary? You pulling our legs? Check the running times - is one
>longer than the other?
>___________ ____________

>That's one hell of a POTA Web Site Phil.
>Wow, puts mine to shame.
>Where do I hide my face?

>That's one hell of a POTA Web Site Phil.
>Wow, puts mine to shame.
>Where do I hide my face?
>

>Screw the running time buddy.
>Check out time frame 1:31:26 on your DVD player.

>Wow man your right!
>I sell a collectors item here!!
>Fox makes a mistake on the POTA scene section, oh yeah!

>Wow man your right!
>I sell a collectors item here!!
>Fox makes a mistake on the POTA scene section, oh yeah!

>I noticed in the Trailer for "Behind" you see a brief sequence of
>Roddy himself being interviewed.

>Humor rarely travels well (either way) across the Atlantic... I found
>it all a bit embarrassing.

>Mr Methane????? That's a new one on me

>Come on Phil, you can't say the Brits haven't got a sense of humor...

> >Mr Methane????? That's a new one on me
>
>British guy in a superhero outfit who, well, farts.
>

>I just like to throw something in for discussion.
>
>Watching Planet on DVD I wondered how much do you think Dr Zaius
>knows.

>Was Landon deliberately lobotomized to wipe out his
>intelligence or is Zaius sincere when he states it was done merely to
>save his life.

> Of course, once you get to Escape, you find out that Cornelius,

> hostorical documents, suddenly knows all about man's former

> earth, and how it was usurped. There's a big ol' hole, but let's

> for now.

>Humor rarely travels well (either way) across the Atlantic... I found
>it all a bit embarrassing.

>This, from the country where Mr. Methane has his own program . . . :)

>The funniest part was that they refilmed the entire open of the show with
>apes inplace of the cast. The bits with Chuck were kind of stiff.

>me:
>
>well you could argue that perhaps Zaius briefed Cornelius further as
>to the evil history of talking "beast men," after they returned to
>Ape City after the cave incident. Plausible explanation I think.

> > >Mr Methane????? That's a new one on me
> >
> >British guy in a superhero outfit who, well, farts.
> >
> I have heard of The Spleen... American guy in a superhero outfit who, well, farts.
>
> I just like to throw something in for discussion.
>
> Watching Planet on DVD I wondered how much do you think Dr Zaius
> knows. The moment Taylor starts to mime he gets suspicious... He rubs
> out the writing in the sand so he knows one of the humans is
> intelligent, obviously "Bright eyes" yet he takes no immediate
> action. Was Landon deliberately lobotomized to wipe out his
> intelligence or is Zaius sincere when he states it was done merely to
> save his life.
> Has Zaius, do you think met talking humans before or is his knowledge
> purely based upon the Sacred scrolls. (and please don't bring up
> "Sins of the Fathers)
>
>

> >That's one hell of a POTA Web Site Phil.
> >Wow, puts mine to shame.
> >Where do I hide my face?

> " Hey Ken,
>
> Word has it that the shooting is by passing Fox - Australia and going over to
> WB on the Gold Coast. Is this true? "
>
> I hadn't heard that one yet. I do know that originally they were planning to
> film here at Fox Studios Australia but in the meanwhile they rented out the
> studios to MATRIX 2 & 3 who move in as soon as Star Wars Ep2 moves out.

>>

>apes inplace of the cast. The bits with Chuck were kind of stiff.

>>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Philip Nobile" <pjn1209@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 3:46 PM
Subject: [pota] Notes on the 'making of' DVD


> Finished looking at the disc today. The Conquest section is longer,
> detailing Caesar's sale to the governor, and expanding on the violence
> and Capra's explanation behind it.
>
> The Battle section is significantly expanded, with segments detailing
> the trek to the Forbidden City, a segment on how Caesar's character was
> softened (which shows a preproduction painting not seen in the VHS
> version), and nods to Natalie Trundy, Paul Williams and Claude Akins. As
> Alex said, it's almost seven minutes longer than the VHS tape.
>
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Apescape


> In a message dated 08/19/2000 12:20:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << Somehow, my mind keeps going back to the
> shot of Zira smiling at Taylor after she asks him whether he's hurt >>
>
> That's a good one, but my personal fave is after she tells Cornelius to
'Show
> some strength,' and he goes on about their future, when she's kind of
puffing
> and waiting to get a word in. Excellent facial make-up manipulation!
>
> And though Escape is a personal sentimental fave sequel, I like the feel
of
> being back on the planet in Beneath. And at least in that one, when we
> thought our Ape heroes killed at the end, it wasn't on screen.
>
>
>
>
>
>

> I guess I flubbed the shot I meant. I meant when Zira asks Taylor

> he'd HURT HER, after reading the "My Name Is Taylor" message. Her reaction
> shot was incredible at the screening. - - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 10:20 AM
Subject: [pota] Apescape


> Hello ladies and germs! I've been chugging through the groups' e-mails:
>
> "APES" SCREENING: First of all, I went to the screening of "Planet of
the
> Apes" at the Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood on Thursday. The one with
> Charlton Heston doing Q & A. I was lucky enough to get invited to the 30th
> Anniversary screening in 1998 (the one with the celebrities) and this was
> kinda a version of that for the general public. Like the '98 event this
one
> started off with the ad for the "Behind the POTA" documentary seen on the
> videos, then a pristine, STEREO print of "Planet" (I think they might have
> been the same print). This print was advertised as being "brand new" and
was
> on loan from Fox (two Fox representatives were present). I was so
> overwhelmed at the '98 event that I couldn't concentrate on the screen.
This
> time, however, the screening itself was the event and I drank it in. This
> was the 5th time I've seen the flick in the theatres so I concentrated on
> the details.
>
> I remember looking at the backgrounds alot. I was impressed with how
well
> they picked the shots at Lake Powell, but I've always found the interior
> sets to be kinda "stagey", more like a play than a movie (I prefer the
sets
> in the sequels; well, except "Escape"). A particular revelation this time
> was how they strived to create realistic apes, both in the makeup and in
the
> actors' movement. I don't think they gave such overall attention to detail
> again . I was impressed with the coloring of the appliances. I tend to
think
> of the ape faces as one color but this time I noticed the subtle shadings.
> My friend Bill Blake says the sequels can't compete with the original in
> terms of makeup and he's right. Somehow, my mind keeps going back to the
> shot of Zira smiling at Taylor after she asks him whether he's hurt her.
> Also, Zauis in his office threatening to emasculate Taylor. As has been
> mentioned about the DVDs, it was like seeing the movie anew, though I'm
sure
> it was even better than watching a DVD. I wish I had read these e-mails
> beforehand so I would have had things to watch for.
>
> A big highlight of the screening was the audience, who also acted like
> THEY were seeing it for the first time (though it was obvious they were
> fans - - - the show sold out, so it wasn't like you could get tickets at
the
> last minute). They were very loud and appreciative. They applauded the
> opening credits. They applauded guest of honor Chuck whenever possible.
They
> (movingly) gave a warm applause when Roddy makes his entrance. They hooted
> and hollered the relationship between Taylor and Nova. They brought down
the
> house when Taylor says, "Take your stinking paws off me. . . ". And most
> memorably, they went nuts when Taylor asserted his right to carry a gun.
> ETC, ETC... Despite the trimmings of the 30th anniversary gig this is the
> most fun I've ever had watching "Planet of the Apes" and it was thanks to
> the audience. People are primed for this remake, man!
>
> OK, Chuck... The Q & A with Heston didn't last long and seemed kind of
a
> waste. They didn't spend much time taking audience questions, which are
> usually the best kind. Instead they had a moderator who asked more obvious
> ones. Mostly Heston talked about how hard it was to get the movie
financed,
> a replay of "Behind the POTA". The names of Arthur Jacobs and John
Chambers
> slipped his mind and he had to be reminded, but he gave Jacobs alot of
> credit for seeing it through. He mentioned reading Boulle's book, which he
> didn't seem to like but it had the basic concept. He made a couple of
> errors: saying Rod Serling died before the movie was released and that the
> term "science fiction" was coined around the time of the "Apes". He said
> it's a good idea to do a new "Apes" and he's looking forward to seeing it.
> It was also nice to hear him say he's proud of the movie and that it had a
> bigger impact than they could have imagined (in the past, such as in his
> published diary, Heston seemed to downplay "Apes"). Also nice was that his
> son Fraser was in the audience (no, not the TV character).
>
> GHOST OF "APES" PAST: Since others have been talking about their (ahem)
> "first times", I thought I'd give my own viewing history to compliment the
> above. The first I remember of "Apes" was seeing a TV commercial for one
of
> the films, I think it was the original release of "Battle", but I can't be
> sure. All I remember was being impressed by the makeup. Sometime in the
1973
> to '74 TV season my babysitter turned on a CBS showing of "Escape",
perhaps
> it's TV premiere. That was my first ever viewing of an "Apes" story. When
> the chimps came out of the ship and removed their helmets I still remember
> my shock... it's those monkeys I had seen in that commercial. I was hooked
> for the night, though tragically I fell asleep before seeing the ending.
My
> babysitter filled me in on the ending and I couldn't believe the chimps
> were killed. I've noticed a trend on this e - group that the first "Apes"
> movie people see tends to be their sentimental favorite and that's the
case
> for me (though on a more analytical level I also consider "Escape" the
best
> sequel). A nice little bit of nostalgia: last year I was reunited with
that
> babysitter who introduced me to POTA. My most prized "Apes" possession is
a
> copy of Eric Greene's book that I have taken with me in the last few years
> on my adventures to book signings, conventions and screenings. I have
> amassed many autographs, from stars like Heston, Roddy, Kim Hunter,
desiner
> William Creber, "Apes" comic book creators, novelizers like Jerry
Pournelle
> and David Gerrold ... I even have James Cameron's autograph from when he
was
> doing "Apes" and Jane Goodall's; John Chambers, Rick Baker, etc. Anyway, I
> had my babysitter sign it and that meant as much to me as the others.
>
> OK, after "Escape" I got sucked into the maw of the live - action TV
series
> which cemented my standing as an "Apes" fan. It gets knocked but it's
> another of those sentimental favorites of mine (and I still think it had a
> damn good cast!).That was the time of the original merchandise and I got
my
> share at birthday and Christmas. The series didn't last long but by that
> time my fate was sealed. It was also at that point I got my first glimpse
of
> the original film. My family was on vacation in the mountains, where TV
> reception was terrible. We tuned into good 'ol CBS at the point where the
> Hunt was on. It was unwatchable because of the snow so we turned it off,
but
> that was a far cry from how I got to experience the film later.
>
> After that it was catching them when they turned up on TV. One
particular
> memory was a vacation to New Orleans and my friend and I being tucked in
bed
> to watch "Beneath" while our parents went out to party. That was the first
> time I'd seen it and I remember the ending having a big impact. It stayed
> with me. The big frustration with the arrival of home video was that it
was
> hard to get "Apes". I remember seeing looking longingly at an early "Apes"
> laser disc thinking how great it would be to watch "Apes" (and my other
> favorite movies) whenever I wanted to. I got my first VCR in '82 and
> eventually taped the first movie off TV but I longed for the uncut
version.
> It wasn't until 1990 that everything clicked: the "Ape" videos were
> rereleased affordably (they previously cost $60 each), they started new
> comic books (new stories after 15 years!) and soon I was even able to
locate
> some of the Mego figures, a quest I had started in the the '80's but
> couldn't find any. Both the ape makeup and the Mego figures do something
to
> me, I don't know how to explain it. It's like I'm wired and receive
> electricity when I see them. There's been alot happening culturally since
> then but somehow they tapped into me in a primal way and I can't shake
them.
> I truly believe our childhoods affect us in ways we'll never understand.
>
> Ok, the '90's: bigger decade for me with the "Apes" than even the '70's.
> Started writing for a fan club, the storied remake kept getting bigger and
> bigger. But most importantly for this narrative I got to see some of the
> films in theatres for the first time. In 1990 I saw "Planet" on a double
> bill with another favorite, the Jeff Goldblum version of "The Fly"
("2001"
> rounds out my top 3 favorite sci - fi films). Including me there were 3
> people in the theatre - - no exaggeration. "Apes" couldn't get arrested
back
> then. But it didn't matter , at least I'd finally see it on the big
screen.
> It was fun, but an old print. I think it was the same print that was shown
> in '95 on a double bill with "Beneath" and in '96 with "Escape" (both were
> the 25th anniversary of the films). "Beneath had turned pink, "Escape" was
> OK, except for sound problems, but the nice thing was there was amuch
bigger
> turnout than in '90. I had met Eric Greene and we went to both of those
(he
> spoke before the screenintg at the "Escape" one).
>
> In 1998 John Murphy of Van Ness Films (makers of "Behind the POTA")
> invited me as a journalist to the 30th anniversary screening and party.
They
> screened a pristine new print at the Motion Picture Academy (the folks who
> do the Oscars - - they know a thing or two about screening a movie). In
the
> audience was Heston, Roddy, Kim Hunter, Linda Harrison, et al, and even
the
> movie characters themselves, courtesy of "Ape Mania". As I said, to be at
an
> event like that I was in no condition to concentrate on a movie. That's
> where last Thursday's screening came in and I guess all that's left for me
> is a marathon of all 5, which I'm crossing my fingers Fox will do next
year.
>
> Be sure to watch for my next e-mail, brought to you by the fine makers
of
> SCOPE mouthwash. SCOPE, for that "haven't just kissed an ape" feeling!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Nobile" <pjn1209@...>
> To: <pota@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 3:46 PM
> Subject: [pota] Notes on the 'making of' DVD
>
>
> > Finished looking at the disc today. The Conquest section is longer,
> > detailing Caesar's sale to the governor, and expanding on the violence
> > and Capra's explanation behind it.
> >
> > The Battle section is significantly expanded, with segments detailing
> > the trek to the Forbidden City, a segment on how Caesar's character was
> > softened (which shows a preproduction painting not seen in the VHS
> > version), and nods to Natalie Trundy, Paul Williams and Claude Akins. As
> > Alex said, it's almost seven minutes longer than the VHS tape.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> DVDelight: Thanks for telling us about the expanded "Behind the POTA" on
> DVD. What does Natalie Trundy say in the "Conquest" section? I'll let her
> know.

> > DVDelight: Thanks for telling us about the expanded "Behind the POTA"

> > DVD. What does Natalie Trundy say in the "Conquest" section? I'll let

> > know.
>
> She said she really didn't want to play the role of an ape because of the
> hours and hours of dealing with that crap. As in dealing with the make up
> process.
> The crap wasn't the make up, it was dealing with the process of being made
> up.
> I had to watch it twice to make sure what she said.

>She said she really didn't want to play the role of an ape because of the
>hours and hours of dealing with that crap. As in dealing with the make up
>process.
>The crap wasn't the make up, it was dealing with the process of being made
>up.
>I had to watch it twice to make sure what she said.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: "Apes List" <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Apescape, part deux


> Alexander Ruiz <byruiz@...> wrote:
> >She said she really didn't want to play the role of an ape because of the
> >hours and hours of dealing with that crap. As in dealing with the make up
> >process.
> >The crap wasn't the make up, it was dealing with the process of being
made
> >up.
> >I had to watch it twice to make sure what she said.
>
>
> But that bit is in the "regular" version though - or at least it is in the
> version I've seen anyway! (Which was taped from one of Sky TV's many, many
> screenings - since us poor Brits weren't given the chance to buy it)
>
> Talking of Britain, it's about two in the morning so I'm away to bed.
> G'night.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

>
> Ah ha, the plot thickens. Obviously the American version was stuck with a
> strict 2 hour time limit to fit in the American Movie Classics (AMC) time
> slot,

> why didn't Fox hype this longer DVD version as an extra?- - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 6:42 PM
Subject: [pota] "Conquest", part "do!"


> Ah ha, the plot thickens. Obviously the American version was stuck with a
> strict 2 hour time limit to fit in the American Movie Classics (AMC) time
> slot, while the more laid back countries got the real version. The
question
> is, why didn't Fox hype this longer DVD version as an extra?- - - Jeff
> Krueger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
> To: "Apes List" <pota@egroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Apescape, part deux
>
>
> > Alexander Ruiz <byruiz@...> wrote:
> > >She said she really didn't want to play the role of an ape because of
the
> > >hours and hours of dealing with that crap. As in dealing with the make
up
> > >process.
> > >The crap wasn't the make up, it was dealing with the process of being
> made
> > >up.
> > >I had to watch it twice to make sure what she said.
> >
> >
> > But that bit is in the "regular" version though - or at least it is in
the
> > version I've seen anyway! (Which was taped from one of Sky TV's many,
many
> > screenings - since us poor Brits weren't given the chance to buy it)
> >
> > Talking of Britain, it's about two in the morning so I'm away to bed.
> > G'night.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> Alexander Ruiz <byruiz@...> wrote:
> >She said she really didn't want to play the role of an ape because of the
> >hours and hours of dealing with that crap. As in dealing with the make up
> >process.
> >The crap wasn't the make up, it was dealing with the process of being

> >up.
> >I had to watch it twice to make sure what she said.


> But that bit is in the "regular" version though - or at least it is in the
> version I've seen anyway! (Which was taped from one of Sky TV's many, many
> screenings - since us poor Brits weren't given the chance to buy it)

> I'll bet you a dollar they had no idea it was any different than their
> VHS release.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] "Conquest", part "do!"


> > I'll bet you a dollar they had no idea it was any different than their
> > VHS release.
>
> I agree, most executives don't even know where their standing.
> Let someone with a creative mind put together a DVD version, and I'll bet
> you we'll have one awesome DVD set with the full works!
>
> They should have dug up every piece of footage on the films on/off screen
> and create one awesome DVD! Trailers, CBS intros, film and merchandise
> commercials, full original screen test, full interviews, on location
footage
> and so on. When you look at the Behind the Scenes DVD or VHS, what you are
> really seeing is simply small clips of this on location footage.
> It's a shame they never thought of fully releasing it with the DVD. And if
> it's too much footage, add a second DVD disc.
>
> Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
> But I still love my DVD :o)
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> Next time they should hire a bunch of fans for their DVD. They'll go
> through the archive and dig up everything for pennies. - - - Jeff Krueger

> With all this discussion every small scrap of Ape stuff:
>
> What happened to the out takes - the goof ups?
>
> M

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 6:42 PM
Subject: [pota] "Conquest", part "do!"


> Ah ha, the plot thickens. Obviously the American version was stuck with a
> strict 2 hour time limit to fit in the American Movie Classics (AMC) time
> slot, while the more laid back countries got the real version. The
question
> is, why didn't Fox hype this longer DVD version as an extra?- - - Jeff
> Krueger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
> To: "Apes List" <pota@egroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Apescape, part deux
>
>
> > Alexander Ruiz <byruiz@...> wrote:
> > >She said she really didn't want to play the role of an ape because of
the
> > >hours and hours of dealing with that crap. As in dealing with the make
up
> > >process.
> > >The crap wasn't the make up, it was dealing with the process of being
> made
> > >up.
> > >I had to watch it twice to make sure what she said.
> >
> >
> > But that bit is in the "regular" version though - or at least it is in
the
> > version I've seen anyway! (Which was taped from one of Sky TV's many,
many
> > screenings - since us poor Brits weren't given the chance to buy it)
> >
> > Talking of Britain, it's about two in the morning so I'm away to bed.
> > G'night.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

>
> << Why does Taylor not get a clue when the apes speak English?

>From: "Philip Nobile" <soylentphil@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] Cooool.
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:09:37 EDT
>
>If you have Flash, go here.
>
>http://www.foxhome.com/planetoftheapesdvd.htmlindex_flash2.htm
>____________

>Phillip,
>I don't have Flash, and I'm using someone else's computer. Could you tell
>us limited fen what was on the site? I've also had trouble downloading the
>attachments and don't want to put anything on this computer.
>Thanks,*Lynne*

>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: <pota@egroups.com>
>Subject: [pota] New Apes Web Site
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:20:46 -0400
>
>That's one hell of a POTA Web Site Phil.
>Wow, puts mine to shame.
>Where do I hide my face?
>
>Alex
>

>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: <pota@egroups.com>
>Subject: [pota] Saturday Night Live!
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:21:04 -0400
>
>Hey everyone!
>Did any of you see when Charlton Heston Hosted SNL?
>I just recorded it from the comedy central channel.
>
>Wow! The Planet of the Ape Spoofs are Great!
>Be looking foward to a new addition to my site soon!!
>
>Alex
>

>From: "dan piercy" <danpiercy@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] Re: Saturday Night Live!
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:03:36 -0000
>
>--- In pota@egroups.com, "Philip Nobile" <soylentphil@h...> wrote:
>
> > Of course, once you get to Escape, you find out that Cornelius,
>quoting
> > hostorical documents, suddenly knows all about man's former
>position on
> > earth, and how it was usurped. There's a big ol' hole, but let's
>forget it
> > for now.
>
>me:
>
>well you could argue that perhaps Zaius briefed Cornelius further as
>to the evil history of talking "beast men," after they returned to
>Ape City after the cave incident. Plausible explanation I think.
>

>From: BlakerG@...
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: mark.gould@..., pota@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] Zaius knows
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:33:00 EDT
>
>They do lots of SNL skits that make allusions to Planet of the Apes. They
>did
>a real audio cartoon of Senate subcommittee meetings on gun control.
>Chralton
>Heston and his NRA buddies were in the cartoon talking away. And then the
>Apes bust in on horses and start shooting everybody. Then they have Heston
>in
>a cage and Zira say "Come on Bright eyes say something" and then Heston
>spouts NRA stuff off. A lot of quotes from POTA are used. Its pretty dang
>funny. Anybody else seen it?

>From: LordTZer0@...
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] Saturday Night Live!
>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:18:19 EDT
>
>In a message dated 08/18/2000 11:52:30 AM Central Daylight Time,
>soylentphil@... writes:
>
><< British guy in a superhero outfit who, well, farts. >>
>
>Sounds like Stern's Fartman

>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: <pota@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [pota] Spelling check
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:20:57 -0400
>
> > I guess I flubbed the shot I meant. I meant when Zira asks Taylor
>whether
> > he'd HURT HER, after reading the "My Name Is Taylor" message. Her
>reaction
> > shot was incredible at the screening. - - - Jeff Krueger
>
>Thanks for giving us your insights Jeff.
>It sounds like you had a blast at the 30th Anniversary, one of many reasons
>why I wish I lived in California instead of Florida.
>All we have here is a lot of Micky Mouse Parties.
>Oy Vay!
>
>I'll trade earthquakes for Hurricanes any day. :o)
>
>Alex
>
>

>From: JSe3689836@...
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] Apescape
>Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:54:26 EDT
>
>Well done Jack. Wish I could've been at that screening. Sounds like it was
>a
>blast. I attended the Ape-O-Thon in Montreal last November. That was a lot
>of
>fun. Run by a guy named Phil Spurelle. He had General Ursus on a horse
>outside the theatre, along with Aldo. There was a Nova & I was Taylor. At
>intermission between the first and Beneath, Ursus & Aldo hunted a bunch of
>us
>filthy humans through the theatre. Threw a net on us on the stage. Ursus
>gave
>his "Power" speech, Aldo "wanted guns" Then Dr. Zaius & Cornelius appeared.
>It was pretty wild! The audience loved it. Great to read other Ape Stories.
>Go Apes, John

>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: <pota@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [pota] Out takes
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:42:35 -0400
>
> > With all this discussion every small scrap of Ape stuff:
> >
> > What happened to the out takes - the goof ups?
> >
> > M
>
>Good question.
>There's so much the fans would love to see.
>
>Alex
>

>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: <pota@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [pota] Out takes
>Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:42:35 -0400
>
> > With all this discussion every small scrap of Ape stuff:
> >
> > What happened to the out takes - the goof ups?
> >
> > M
>
>Good question.
>There's so much the fans would love to see.
>
>Alex
>

> http://www.thecolonialtheater.com/index2.html"
>
> September 29, 11:30 PM. Can't believe it's the second time this year
> they're showing it in the Philly area. Wow.

> Was showing my friend some of the discs, and it's just amazing how much

> care was put into the first film. The level of quality dropped so

> even in Beneath. The apes even had hair placed on their damn knuckles in

> first one.
>
> In the first film, the scenes in the Forbidden Zone are really wonderfully
> shot. Lots of scope, great use of the landscape. Notice how differently

> shots are framed in the Forbidden Zone in Beneath. You almost never see

> horizon, the camera is almost always placed high, shooting down at the
> action. Why? A look at the stills section will show you that there's a

> parking lot just past Beneath's Forbidden Zone. Even the recycled sets

> worse, because they weren't framed or lit nearly as interestingly. Where

> first film was crawling with crane shots and interesting cuts, the sequel

> a series of missed opportunities, visually speaking. There's some great
> stuff in there, but I wonder what it would have been like had Shaffner

> retained, and a higher budget secured.

> Now that would make a kick a** dvd!!!!!!!
> *Lynne*
>

> Alex!!
>
> For shame! Thinking that your website is shameful!! For us Flashless

> your's is the BEST!! I haven't been there all week because it's been all

> can do to keep up with my mail! Keep on working on it, it gives me
> something to look forward to!!
>
> *Lynne*

>Was showing my friend some of the discs, and it's just amazing how much

>care was put into the first film. The level of quality dropped so sharply,
>even in Beneath. The apes even had hair placed on their damn knuckles in

>first one.

>>LordTZer0@... wrote:

>>Why does Taylor not get a clue when the apes speak English?


>Because he's FREAKING OUT!

>You have to give a little. Lots of Chuck's films have people
>speaking English where they logically wouldn't be (Agony and the

>Hur, Ten Commandments, Julius Caesar . . .

>>Next time they should hire a bunch of fans for their DVD. They'll
>>go through the archive and dig up everything for pennies. - - - Jeff

>Pennies?
>Are you kidding me, I'll do it for free.
>
>Alex

>Where the first film was crawling with crane shots and interesting cuts,

>sequel is a series of missed opportunities, visually speaking. There's

>great stuff in there, but I wonder what it would have been like had

>been retained, and a higher budget secured.

>Well done Jack. Wish I could've been at that screening. Sounds like it
>was a blast. I attended the Ape-O-Thon in Montreal last November. That

>lot of fun. Run by a guy named Phil Spurelle. He had General Ursus on a

>horse outside the theatre, along with Aldo. There was a Nova & I was

>At intermission between the first and Beneath, Ursus & Aldo hunted a
>bunch of us filthy humans through the theatre. Threw a net on us on the

>Ursus gave his "Power" speech, Aldo "wanted guns" Then Dr. Zaius &

>appeared. It was pretty wild! The audience loved it. Great to read other

>Go Apes, John
>

We had a great deal of fun with that party.  It was great to be part of it, especially with all of those guests!  Martin Landau was GREAT!!!

Thanx for the compliment on the make-ups although looking back on it now, they were a bit crude.  We've come a long LONG way since then, but it's still amazing to me what we were able to do on the budget that we had, in the time we had to do it.  The hardest part of planning and prepping the whole thing was to keep it all a secret from my peers in the industry.  One person blabbing could have ruined the whole surprize!

Anmyway, I'm sure Scott would be more than happy to replace your tape with a new one.

Take care.

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

Hey Brian,I just got my Apemaina POTA Tribute to John Chambers Tape.The makeup you guys have on is truly excellent, wow!I wanted to make a page on this tribute but I had a slight problem with the tape.The tape has no volume, ain't that a bummer.You guys seemed to be having fun, I only wish I knew what you guys were saying. I've just e-mailed Scott Essman to see if he can return it for one that does.So there will be a delay on that page I spoke to you about. What a bummer man!Oh no baby no! Alex    

> Philip Nobile <soylentphil@...> wrote:
> >Was showing my friend some of the discs, and it's just amazing how much
> more
> >care was put into the first film. The level of quality dropped so sharply,
> >even in Beneath. The apes even had hair placed on their damn knuckles in
> the
> >first one.
>
> Yeah, I remember noticing in some of the later films that when the Apes hold
> their arms at certain angles you can see bare human flesh, i.e. they wore
> "ape gloves" but that was it. Certainly never happened in the first film.
> Not that I remember anyway.
>
> Alan
>
>

> For the entire run of the TV series Roddy wears gloves with fingernails stuck to
> them.
>
> Alan Maxwell wrote:
>
> > Philip Nobile <soylentphil@...> wrote:
> > >Was showing my friend some of the discs, and it's just amazing how much
> > more
> > >care was put into the first film. The level of quality dropped so sharply,
> > >even in Beneath. The apes even had hair placed on their damn knuckles in
> > the
> > >first one.
> >
> > Yeah, I remember noticing in some of the later films that when the Apes hold
> > their arms at certain angles you can see bare human flesh, i.e. they wore
> > "ape gloves" but that was it. Certainly never happened in the first film.
> > Not that I remember anyway.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
>
>