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Group: pota Message: 3103 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 11/7/2000
Subject: Re: Breaking POTA news
Group: pota Message: 3104 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/7/2000
Subject: Re: Breaking POTA news
Group: pota Message: 3105 From: Pete Harrison Date: 11/7/2000
Subject: Re: What would you do with " Beneath" ?
Group: pota Message: 3106 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/7/2000
Subject: Re: Question about Beneath
Group: pota Message: 3107 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/8/2000
Subject: Re: Getting some "Action!"
Group: pota Message: 3108 From: Pete Harrison Date: 11/8/2000
Subject: Re: Getting some "Action!"
Group: pota Message: 3109 From: Philip Nobile Date: 11/9/2000
Subject: Remake shots
Group: pota Message: 3110 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/9/2000
Subject: Re: Remake shots
Group: pota Message: 3111 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 11/9/2000
Subject: A Neat Idea
Group: pota Message: 3112 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/9/2000
Subject: Remake Pictures!
Group: pota Message: 3113 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/9/2000
Subject: Re: Hey David
Group: pota Message: 3114 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/9/2000
Subject: Re: What would you do with " Beneath" ?
Group: pota Message: 3115 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/10/2000
Subject: Re: Remake shots
Group: pota Message: 3116 From: Phil Date: 11/10/2000
Subject: OT request for help
Group: pota Message: 3117 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/10/2000
Subject: An annoying but informative update on the new movie.
Group: pota Message: 3118 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/10/2000
Subject: Re: An annoying but informative update on the new movie.
Group: pota Message: 3119 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/10/2000
Subject: Re: An annoying but informative update on the new movie.
Group: pota Message: 3120 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 11/10/2000
Subject: Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
Group: pota Message: 3121 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/11/2000
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
Group: pota Message: 3122 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 11/11/2000
Subject: Brazilian fan club website
Group: pota Message: 3123 From: Dave Ballard Date: 11/12/2000
Subject: Fwd: Re: [pota] Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
Group: pota Message: 3124 From: tinarosa Date: 11/12/2000
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [pota] Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
Group: pota Message: 3125 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/12/2000
Subject: POTA Birthday
Group: pota Message: 3126 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/12/2000
Subject: Cherry Hill POTA
Group: pota Message: 3127 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/12/2000
Subject: Re: Cherry Hill POTA
Group: pota Message: 3128 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/12/2000
Subject: Re: Cherry Hill POTA
Group: pota Message: 3129 From: Dave Ballard Date: 11/13/2000
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
Group: pota Message: 3130 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/14/2000
Subject: More updates and do you have the POTA poster ?
Group: pota Message: 3131 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/14/2000
Subject: Re: POTA Birthday
Group: pota Message: 3132 From: Philip Nobile Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: This may be the last batch
Group: pota Message: 3133 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
Group: pota Message: 3134 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: Re: OT request for help
Group: pota Message: 3135 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
Group: pota Message: 3136 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
Group: pota Message: 3137 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch
Group: pota Message: 3138 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch
Group: pota Message: 3139 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: Magazine question
Group: pota Message: 3140 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
Group: pota Message: 3141 From: Philip Nobile Date: 11/15/2000
Subject: [Fwd: PLANET OF THE APES question]
Group: pota Message: 3142 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/16/2000
Subject: Re: [Fwd: PLANET OF THE APES question]
Group: pota Message: 3143 From: emailingnow@post.com Date: 11/16/2000
Subject: ADV - 10 MILLION ADDRESSES!
Group: pota Message: 3144 From: jim burns Date: 11/16/2000
Subject: Re: [Fwd: PLANET OF THE APES question]
Group: pota Message: 3145 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/16/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
Group: pota Message: 3146 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/16/2000
Subject: Re: [Fwd: PLANET OF THE APES question]
Group: pota Message: 3147 From: Phil Date: 11/17/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
Group: pota Message: 3148 From: Phil Date: 11/17/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch
Group: pota Message: 3149 From: Phil Date: 11/17/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
Group: pota Message: 3150 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/17/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch
Group: pota Message: 3151 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/17/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
Group: pota Message: 3152 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/17/2000
Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
Group: pota Message: 3153 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/17/2000
Subject: Medicom
Group: pota Message: 3154 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom
Group: pota Message: 3155 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Simonius Says
Group: pota Message: 3156 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom
Group: pota Message: 3157 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: Simonius Says
Group: pota Message: 3158 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: Simonius Says
Group: pota Message: 3159 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: POTA/Columbo
Group: pota Message: 3160 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: Simonius Says
Group: pota Message: 3161 From: Edie Miller Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: POTA/Columbo
Group: pota Message: 3162 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Yachts and Yahoos
Group: pota Message: 3163 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: Yachts and Yahoos
Group: pota Message: 3164 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Rick Baker
Group: pota Message: 3165 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Video Clips
Group: pota Message: 3166 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: Yachts and Yahoos
Group: pota Message: 3167 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: Video Clips
Group: pota Message: 3168 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/18/2000
Subject: Re: POTA/Columbo
Group: pota Message: 3169 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/19/2000
Subject: Run, don't walk to the Retrovision web
Group: pota Message: 3170 From: Pete Harrison Date: 11/19/2000
Subject: Re: Run, don't walk to the Retrovision web
Group: pota Message: 3171 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/19/2000
Subject: Re: Yachts and Yahoos
Group: pota Message: 3172 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/20/2000
Subject: Re: [potavision]
Group: pota Message: 3173 From: adami Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Re: [potavision]
Group: pota Message: 3174 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Re: [potavision]
Group: pota Message: 3175 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Re: [potavision]
Group: pota Message: 3176 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Re: [potavision]
Group: pota Message: 3177 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Makeup Transformation
Group: pota Message: 3178 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom
Group: pota Message: 3179 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: POTA bits in Total Movie Mag
Group: pota Message: 3180 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom
Group: pota Message: 3181 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom
Group: pota Message: 3182 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom
Group: pota Message: 3183 From: boqa25@irisa.fr Date: 11/21/2000
Subject: Call 24 hours a day!
Group: pota Message: 3184 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/22/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom/CHAD ?
Group: pota Message: 3185 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 11/22/2000
Subject: Alex's CD
Group: pota Message: 3186 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/22/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom/CHAD ?
Group: pota Message: 3187 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/22/2000
Subject: Re: Alex's CD
Group: pota Message: 3188 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/22/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom/CHAD ?
Group: pota Message: 3189 From: Dave Ballard Date: 11/22/2000
Subject: TV Show.
Group: pota Message: 3190 From: Mark Gould Date: 11/22/2000
Subject: Re: Medicom/CHAD ?
Group: pota Message: 3191 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/22/2000
Subject: Chad
Group: pota Message: 3192 From: Pete Harrison Date: 11/22/2000
Subject: Re: TV Show.
Group: pota Message: 3193 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/24/2000
Subject: CHAMBER'S TALENT: IMPOSSIBLE
Group: pota Message: 3194 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/24/2000
Subject: Web Updates
Group: pota Message: 3195 From: dan piercy Date: 11/27/2000
Subject: Ape Has Killed Ape
Group: pota Message: 3196 From: Dave Ballard Date: 11/27/2000
Subject: Re: Ape Has Killed Ape
Group: pota Message: 3197 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/28/2000
Subject: Army Archerd's column included this Apes report
Group: pota Message: 3198 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/28/2000
Subject: Re: Army Archerd's column included this Apes report
Group: pota Message: 3199 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/28/2000
Subject: Remake Trouble
Group: pota Message: 3200 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/28/2000
Subject: Re: Remake Trouble
Group: pota Message: 3201 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/28/2000
Subject: Re: Remake Trouble
Group: pota Message: 3202 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2000
Subject: Re: Remake Trouble



Group: pota Message: 3103 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 11/7/2000
Subject: Re: Breaking POTA news
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Alexander Ruiz <byruiz@...> wrote:
>> The story, the script, the performances, the directing - plenty of other
>> ideas of how to trash the remake!
>>
>> Alan
>
>Ahhhh...baby got boo boo?


Well you did ask!

Alan
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Group: pota Message: 3104 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/7/2000
Subject: Re: Breaking POTA news
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> >Ahhhh...baby got boo boo?
>
>
> Well you did ask!
>
> Alan

I know dude, I'm just pulling your leg, as you are mine. :o)

Alex
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Group: pota Message: 3105 From: Pete Harrison Date: 11/7/2000
Subject: Re: What would you do with " Beneath" ?
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sounds interesting, good luck with it.
p
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Gould <mark.gould@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] What would you do with " Beneath" ?


>As some already know,
>
>I have written a novel revolving around a trial for heresy, and an
>exploration of the world that the apes exist within. I too wanted more of
>the world to see.
>
>So i wrote it myself.
>
>The novel is finished, and is being polished for the final draft. someone
is
>also looking at contacting Fox about it for me. There are some who have
read
>parts (including a published top novelist) and they all concur, with one
>notable exception, that it really is worth the candle.
>
>Sadly, every mention on this list of such a thing is ignored (as has been
>commented on by some subscribing to this list privately). Now if it had
talk
>of Gorillas bits...
>
>It ain't no peice of fan fic.
>
>M
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 3106 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/7/2000
Subject: Re: Question about Beneath
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In a message dated 11/5/00 8:40:43 PM !!!First Boot!!!, byruiz@...
writes:

<< So what was 20th Century Fox thinking about? >>

They were thinking about their bottom . . . line.
They had suffered huge losses before Apes.
Apes litterally saved Fox's ass!
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Group: pota Message: 3107 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/8/2000
Subject: Re: Getting some "Action!"
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Hey Jeff,

I wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday, too!!! I personally refuse to be any
older than say, 25! LOL! After that, things get real repetitive and old and
boring and....keep around that age and interest and you'll never get old and
boring. I think that's why some people have kids late..so they can stay
young. I know of a few who have admitted this!

I cannot wait to see if Heston IS going to be in the remake! Nobel Peace
Prize, indeed! LOL! I would love to have been a fly on the wall during
these talks!

GO APES!!!!
*Lynne*
(still lurking)

>From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>

> Happy Birthday, Lynne! Your e-mails don't look a day over 30. My
>birthday
>is Nov. 8, so if shooting gets postponed a couple days that's fine with me.
>I won't say my age but I'm old enough to call "Star Wars" fans
>"whippersnappers"!
>

_____________
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Group: pota Message: 3108 From: Pete Harrison Date: 11/8/2000
Subject: Re: Getting some "Action!"
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Happy Birthday, Jack!
pjh
-----Original Message-----
From: Lynne Miller <cosmicraye@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Getting some "Action!"


>Hey Jeff,
>
>I wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday, too!!! I personally refuse to be
any
>older than say, 25! LOL! After that, things get real repetitive and old
and
>boring and....keep around that age and interest and you'll never get old
and
>boring. I think that's why some people have kids late..so they can stay
>young. I know of a few who have admitted this!
>
>I cannot wait to see if Heston IS going to be in the remake! Nobel Peace
>Prize, indeed! LOL! I would love to have been a fly on the wall during
>these talks!
>
> GO APES!!!!
> *Lynne*
> (still lurking)
>
>>From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
>
>> Happy Birthday, Lynne! Your e-mails don't look a day over 30. My
>>birthday
>>is Nov. 8, so if shooting gets postponed a couple days that's fine with
me.
>>I won't say my age but I'm old enough to call "Star Wars" fans
>>"whippersnappers"!
>>
>
>_____________
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Group: pota Message: 3109 From: Philip Nobile Date: 11/9/2000
Subject: Remake shots
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Group: pota Message: 3110 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/9/2000
Subject: Re: Remake shots
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This is very cool. It hints at a similar culturaral level seen in the
original flims as well as cool new design work. This would be the Princess's
camp I would guess from the opulence. And is that Lake Powell area ? I heard
they were filming there. I also looked at
http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/pictures/apestents1.jpg and in the
background to the right are horses, and is that the silhouette of an ape ?
Many thanks for posting this. - Jeff





At 10:03 AM 11/09/2000 EST, you wrote:
>http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/pictures/apestents2.jpg
>_____________
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Group: pota Message: 3111 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 11/9/2000
Subject: A Neat Idea
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Attachments :
    Hello--

    I know this is off topic--

    But this is a pretty neat thing, to help provide food for less fortunate
    nations--

    Which is pretty terrific!

    Just by clicking on the icon below, you'll be taken to THE HUNGER SITE.
    Then, by clicking on the yellow box, that says "Donate Free Food," in
    the middle of the page (it's clearly marked), a CUP OF FOOD will be
    donated, by the site's underwriting sponsors--

    AT NO COST TO YOU!

    You're allowed to click on the site, once a day (and, hence, just for
    the cost of a few seconds of your time, CONTRIBUTE food.)

    Again, this, at absolutely no cost, to the clicker.

    (What I've done, is bookmark the sight--and I simply click on it, and
    then click on the yellow box, once a day.)

    Sort of a win-win, and it gives one the chance to do some good--

    Almost effortlessly!

    Again, my apologies for going off topic--

    But I felt this was worth it!

    Best,

    That Old Apes Dinosaur,

    Jim Burns

    (James H. Burns)
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    Group: pota Message: 3112 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/9/2000
    Subject: Remake Pictures!
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    I'm not sure who it was that gave the links to those Remake pictures but I just want to thank you. These pictures are great and a great first look at this film.
    I will be posting them on the site and hopefuly tons more as we get closer to the release date.
     
    Hey Terry and Jeff,
    I've just received your fanzine magazines, all 36 of them, great stuff!!
    And as promised I will give a plug for the mag on my site, I hope you guys have enjoyed my CD.
     
    Jeff buddy, you are one hell of an artist, not bad!
    Great stuff.
     
    Alex
     
     
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    Group: pota Message: 3113 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/9/2000
    Subject: Re: Hey David
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    Hey Dave,

    Are you still dry? I heard another batch of weather is coming your way and
    I, too, was concerned about all of you over there. Get those comics in
    plastic bags!! I sure am glad I did when I came up here to Michigan!! My
    rodent friends didn't like anything in plastic!!

    *Lynne*


    >From: Dave Ballard <dballard@...>
    >Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
    >To: pota@egroups.com
    >Subject: [pota] Hey David
    >Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:59:06 +0000
    >
    >Hey guys,
    >
    >Thanks for the concern, I'm safe and sound and just back from a
    >family holiday in Cyprus. I'm now the same colour that Charlton
    >Heston was at the end of "Planet" but there all resemblance ends.
    >
    >Mr Postman has left me two interesting parcels... One is Alex's
    >tribute CD. If you live in the UK and want a copy drop me a line. I
    >was up all last night dancing to it. I can't wait until I get an
    >invite to a party, I know what record I'll be taking.
    >
    >Number two is a VHS copy of "Time of the Apes"
    >
    >WOW!
    >
    >I thought it was good fun in a very strange kind of way. I never knew
    >that "fluctuations in temperature could cause you to travel backward
    >rather than forward in time!" Thank God I bought this video.
    >
    >As for the floods we're having in the UK I haven't needed to blow the
    >escape hatch and throw out an inflatable dinghy just yet. I don't
    >think my collection of Marvel magazines is in any danger.

    _____________
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    Group: pota Message: 3114 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/9/2000
    Subject: Re: What would you do with " Beneath" ?
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    I'm lurking, Mark, but I would like to let you know that I would like to see
    the novel!! I've played around with the idea of more exploration, but it
    mostly revolved around the TV show and not really ready to be seen by anyone
    else yet, if ever! Is there any way any of us could see it? Or maybe parts
    of it, if it is getting ready to publish? I will definately waste the
    candle, and more, for a good POTA story!
    *Lynne*


    >From: Mark Gould <mark.gould@...>
    >Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
    >To: <pota@egroups.com>
    >Subject: Re: [pota] What would you do with " Beneath" ?
    >Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 07:26:42 +0000
    >
    >As some already know,
    >
    >I have written a novel revolving around a trial for heresy, and an
    >exploration of the world that the apes exist within. I too wanted more of
    >the world to see.
    >
    >So i wrote it myself.
    >
    >The novel is finished, and is being polished for the final draft. someone
    >is
    >also looking at contacting Fox about it for me. There are some who have
    >read
    >parts (including a published top novelist) and they all concur, with one
    >notable exception, that it really is worth the candle.
    >
    >Sadly, every mention on this list of such a thing is ignored (as has been
    >commented on by some subscribing to this list privately). Now if it had
    >talk
    >of Gorillas bits...
    >
    >It ain't no peice of fan fic.
    >
    >M
    >

    _____________
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    Group: pota Message: 3115 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/10/2000
    Subject: Re: Remake shots
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    Thanks, Phil. Looks pretty wild. Kinda like POTA meets Lawrence of
    Arabia! John
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    Group: pota Message: 3116 From: Phil Date: 11/10/2000
    Subject: OT request for help
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    Hello everyone. Sorry for the off topic post, but I'm at the end of
    my rope.

    I'm currently editing a short film (shot on 16mm, editing digitally),
    and I'm trying to track down any Super 8 footage from the 70s that
    shows two brothers playing outside, preferably in a pool. This is
    for a brief but important flashback sequence, and so far I've not
    found it.

    I know it's not likely I'll find anything that matches exactly what I
    have in mind, but if anyone out there can help, I'd like to get this
    footage transferred to digital tape asap, and will handle the footage
    with completely professional care. I've hit many of the online stock
    houses, and come up empty.

    Really want an authentic feel, and can't wait until next summer to
    shoot it myself, so any help you can offer from your attics and
    garages is much appreciated. Thanks!

    Phil
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    Group: pota Message: 3117 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/10/2000
    Subject: An annoying but informative update on the new movie.
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    Movie Headlines Ape page has a 'spoiler' on the new apes film and a genaral
    look at the plot. The link below is to the original article which has more
    info. You'll probably be gritting your teeth as you read it though. It's a
    gaming news site called Daily Rader, which I'm assuming is run by
    perpetually 'edgey' 24 year old males, even though the photo of the guy who
    wrote the article looks older than that. I think he likes the first film,
    but feels compelled to slam it at the same time. Butt Head. Yup, my fur's on
    edge. There is a link to respond to the article. I just may do so, I'm busy
    stacking frozen bananas right now... - Jeff

    http://www.dailyradar.com/columns/showbiz_column_481.html"
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    Group: pota Message: 3118 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/10/2000
    Subject: Re: An annoying but informative update on the new movie.
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    Thanks for the info, Jeff. I figure the only way around not knowing
    anything about this flick is to go into suspended animation and wake up
    around July 27th. What I read sounds pretty cool. Won't say anything in case
    others on the list have more willpower than I. Thanks again, John
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    Group: pota Message: 3119 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/10/2000
    Subject: Re: An annoying but informative update on the new movie.
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    I agree John - with the limited info given I am getting excited (but that is
    not a challenge with anything Apes).

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
    From: JSe3689836@... [JSe3689836@...]
    Sent: Saturday, 11 November 2000 5:48
    To: pota@egroups.com
    Subject: Re: [pota] An annoying but informative update on the new movie.

    Thanks for the info, Jeff. I figure the only way around not knowing
    anything about this flick is to go into suspended animation and wake up
    around July 27th. What I read sounds pretty cool. Won't say anything in case
    others on the list have more willpower than I. Thanks again, John
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    Group: pota Message: 3120 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 11/10/2000
    Subject: Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
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    Hey group! I ordered all the POTA comics, tv shows, and all the cartoons from
    Terry Hoknes, but when I got them finally 3 comics were missing and two
    graphic novels that I paid for. Instead of the comics was a $10 bill with no
    note as to why the comics were not there. I have tried contacting him in
    email twice but have gotten no response and I hate to do this but am now
    trying to contact him through this list. It may be that he is out of town and
    hasn't been able to read the mail, but I would like to know what the deal is.
    I spent about $300 or more on all of it and would like to know why I didn't
    get what I paid for. If anyone knows that he is out of town or has spoken to
    him please let me know. And Terry if you are reading this please email me
    back. Thank you!

    Loc
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    Group: pota Message: 3121 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/11/2000
    Subject: Re: Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
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    Well Loc,
    I e-mailed him myself a few days ago but also received no reply.
    So most likely he's out of town, I'm sure he'll contact you, just give it
    some time.

    Alex

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <locutusatwolf359@...>
    To: <pota@egroups.com>
    Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 12:07 AM
    Subject: [pota] Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?


    > Hey group! I ordered all the POTA comics, tv shows, and all the cartoons
    from
    > Terry Hoknes, but when I got them finally 3 comics were missing and two
    > graphic novels that I paid for. Instead of the comics was a $10 bill with
    no
    > note as to why the comics were not there. I have tried contacting him in
    > email twice but have gotten no response and I hate to do this but am now
    > trying to contact him through this list. It may be that he is out of town
    and
    > hasn't been able to read the mail, but I would like to know what the deal
    is.
    > I spent about $300 or more on all of it and would like to know why I
    didn't
    > get what I paid for. If anyone knows that he is out of town or has spoken
    to
    > him please let me know. And Terry if you are reading this please email me
    > back. Thank you!
    >
    > Loc
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    Group: pota Message: 3122 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 11/11/2000
    Subject: Brazilian fan club website
    .html
    On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 04:47:41 -0300 tinarosa <tinarosa@...>
    writes:

    > please, look at:
    >
    > www.mcanet.com.br/lostinspace/apes/apes.htmlbr> >
    > The Planet of the Apes Brazilian Fan Club web site!
    >
    > Adami


    Does anyone know if this site is still up? I keep getting an error
    message every time I try to log on.



    Chris L.
    ____
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    Group: pota Message: 3123 From: Dave Ballard Date: 11/12/2000
    Subject: Fwd: Re: [pota] Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
    .html
    >
    >----- Original Message -----
    >
    >So most likely he's out of town, I'm sure he'll contact you, just give it
    >some time.
    >
    >
    >
    >If memory serves Terry is a working musician and he's often "on the
    >road" for weeks/months at a time. This I think is why "Ape
    >Chronicles" has got such an appalling schedule...
    >
    >In my experience Terry is 100% honest, I'm sure he'll be in touch soon.
    >
    >Dave (still keeping dry)
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    Group: pota Message: 3124 From: tinarosa Date: 11/12/2000
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [pota] Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
    .html
    .html Hi, Ape friends!

    Yes, Terry Hoknes is 100% honest!

    I am waiting for Terry reply, too. Don't worry!

    Adami

    Dave Ballard escreveu:

         ----- Original Message -----

         So most likely he's out of town, I'm sure he'll contact you, just give it
         some time.

         If memory serves Terry is a working musician and he's often "on the road" for weeks/months at a time. This I think is why "Ape Chronicles" has got such an appalling schedule...

         In my experience Terry is 100% honest, I'm sure he'll be in touch soon.

         Dave (still keeping dry)

     
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    Group: pota Message: 3125 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/12/2000
    Subject: POTA Birthday
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    I saw in today's paper that it's Kim Hunter's 78th birthday.
    Altogether now, "Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy
    birthday Dr. Zira, Happy birthday to you." Hey wait, what are you
    doing with that scalpel? Stop it!!! NOOO!!!! Arghhhhhhhh!!!!!! All
    kidding aside, Happy B-Day Kim!
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    Group: pota Message: 3126 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/12/2000
    Subject: Cherry Hill POTA
    .html
    Went to the South Jersey TV/Movie Memorabilia show in Cherry
    Hill NJ this weekend. Linda Harrison was there and she confirmed that
    she will have a cameo in the remake/reimagining. She said she'll be
    using the same costume as in the original. Believe me, she'll have no
    trouble getting into it. She's still "got it" as they say. She also
    says that Zanuck & Burton get along great. In conjunction with the
    memorabilia show they were supposed to be showing POTA at the Loews
    Theatre at 11pm Saturday night. I was pretty psyched, it's one of
    those multi-mega-monster-plexs with stadium seating and all. I get
    there, and they say that the film was never delivered to the
    theatre!!!! D'OH!!!!!!! I suspect simian foul play! John
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    Group: pota Message: 3127 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/12/2000
    Subject: Re: Cherry Hill POTA
    .html
    John,

    Was there any good vintage Planet of the Apes Memorabilia?

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
    From: JSe3689836@... [JSe3689836@...]
    Sent: Monday, 13 November 2000 7:29
    To: pota@egroups.com
    Subject: [pota] Cherry Hill POTA

    Went to the South Jersey TV/Movie Memorabilia show in Cherry
    ! John
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    Group: pota Message: 3128 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/12/2000
    Subject: Re: Cherry Hill POTA
    .html
    Not really Mike. There was a gorilla soldier doll, but other than that,
    nothing besides Linda/Nova pix. It was a small scale show.
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    Group: pota Message: 3129 From: Dave Ballard Date: 11/13/2000
    Subject: Re: Has anyone heard from Terry Hoknes?
    .html
    ----- Original Message -----

    So most likely he's out of town, I'm sure he'll contact you, just give it
    some time.



    If memory serves Terry is a working musician and he's often "on the
    road" for weeks/months at a time. This I think is why "Ape
    Chronicles" has got such an appalling schedule...

    In my experience Terry is 100% honest, I'm sure he'll be in touch soon.

    Dave (still keeping dry)
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    Group: pota Message: 3130 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/14/2000
    Subject: More updates and do you have the POTA poster ?
    .html
    I'll start off with raving about the new Apes poster I just got, it's the
    cover of the Fox re-release from last year. It's the reddish cover of PLANET
    with a glowering chimp, the statue and Taylor on his knees.
    http://www.moviepostershop.com/ carries them. Look under the movie poster
    reproduction section.

    Below is a report from Ain't it Cool News - I've pushed it further down the
    page if you don't want spoilers. I think it comfirms the design style for
    the film and makes those tents likely that they really are from the Apes
    set. I think I'm going to back off on reading everything myself. Last year I
    knew too much about The Phantom Menace for my taste, and I didn't read the
    spoilers....

    WARNING SPOILERS !WARNING SPOILERS !WARNING SPOILERS !WARNING SPOILERS
    !WARNING SPOILERS Below VVVVVVVV ( that's an arrow pointing down )
















    PLANET OF THE APES set observations in Arizona
    Hey folks, Harry here... ya know... other than LORD OF THE RINGS, the set
    I'd most like to watching shooting on is PLANET OF THE APES... Can you
    imagine watching folks in all that Rick Baker ape make-up? In Genghis Khan
    style armor no less? Dear lord that has to be cool. Just chowing down in the
    lunch tent... all the apes in make up.... eating their salads and fish...
    The wise ass ape in the corner eating nothing but bananas... Ahhhh, you know
    that would rule. What geek hasn't dreamed of being on a Rick Baker ape-ish
    set since SCHLOCK or the Dino produced Kong? Sigh.... here ya go....
    Signing in from scenic Northern Arizona, Lake Powell, where they're filming
    some scenes for Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes. For an interesting tidbit,
    Lake Powell is where most of the first 45 minutes of the original Apes movie
    was filmed, and the set for this movie is about 5 miles east of where they
    shot the scarecrow scenes in the original

    Their set for the movie is located in an inlet in the main bay of the Lake,
    where the major marina exists. You can see the set from the road that leads
    into the marina and attached resort. Hell, with a good telephoto lens you
    could probably get some nice pics of the set. It appears that most of their
    shooting has been at night with fireballs and other assorted firey things
    all about.

    I've seen the apes up close and personal, and they are awe-inspiring. The
    makeup is insanely realistic, and it's surreal to even see them walking about.

    I've seen some of the production stuff, armor, tents, weapons, etc., and it
    all seems to be inspired by Genghis Khan's aesthetic sense. All very
    asiastic, with little monkey dragons on the armor.

    I suppose that's about it, i'll try for some pics, but i don't know. I'll
    definitely have stuff on Reitman's Evolution when it hits town.

    Ta-ta for now.

    Call me The Sticky-Note
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    Group: pota Message: 3131 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/14/2000
    Subject: Re: POTA Birthday
    .html
    Sent her the cards last week.




    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Rudy on JAG tonite!
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    Group: pota Message: 3132 From: Philip Nobile Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: This may be the last batch
    .html
    Due out in Feb . . .(although they're 2 months late on their Sep wave):

    http://www.justbetoys.com/new/ape_astronout.jpg
    _____________
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    Group: pota Message: 3133 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
    .html
    This reminds me, what is the scoop on the 7" Apes figures from Hasbro ? I've
    never seen them, and they don't even seem to exist on Hasbro's website. What
    did they do, dump them on the market and then disown them ? - Curious Jeff


    At 03:04 PM 11/15/2000 EST, you wrote:
    >Due out in Feb . . .(although they're 2 months late on their Sep wave):
    >
    >http://www.justbetoys.com/new/ape_astronout.jpg
    >_____________
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    Group: pota Message: 3134 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: Re: OT request for help
    .html
    Sorry, Phil, I had brothers but no Super 8. I'll ask around, though. I
    think my friend had it and two brothers!! LOL!
    *Lynne*


    >From: "Phil " <pjn1209@...>
    >Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
    >To: pota@egroups.com
    >Subject: [pota] OT request for help
    >Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:14:27 -0000
    >
    >Hello everyone. Sorry for the off topic post, but I'm at the end of
    >my rope.
    >
    >I'm currently editing a short film (shot on 16mm, editing digitally),
    >and I'm trying to track down any Super 8 footage from the 70s that
    >shows two brothers playing outside, preferably in a pool. This is
    >for a brief but important flashback sequence, and so far I've not
    >found it.
    >
    >I know it's not likely I'll find anything that matches exactly what I
    >have in mind, but if anyone out there can help, I'd like to get this
    >footage transferred to digital tape asap, and will handle the footage
    >with completely professional care. I've hit many of the online stock
    >houses, and come up empty.
    >
    >Really want an authentic feel, and can't wait until next summer to
    >shoot it myself, so any help you can offer from your attics and
    >garages is much appreciated. Thanks!
    >
    >Phil
    >
    >

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    Group: pota Message: 3135 From: locutusatwolf359@aol.com Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
    .html
    I was just going to ask a question about POTA figures today. I bought the
    Hasbro Signature series figures at Toys R Us today. They had Cornelius, Dr.
    Zaius, Gorilla Soldier, and Commander Taylor. I bought one of each and they
    were $7.99 a piece. The question I have is does anyone know what other
    figures were released in this series? I'm sure there is a Dr. Zira and maybe
    Ursus. I assume I can find them on ebay after I find out which ones I'm
    missing. Thanks!

    Loc
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    Group: pota Message: 3136 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
    .html
    <locutusatwolf359@...> wrote:
    >I was just going to ask a question about POTA figures today. I bought the
    >Hasbro Signature series figures at Toys R Us today. They had Cornelius, Dr.
    >Zaius, Gorilla Soldier, and Commander Taylor.

    There were only five of the 7" figures from Hasbro - the ones you have
    listed above (there were two different gorilla soldiers). There were 7
    figures in the 12" range. The Medicom figures beat them all by a mile.

    Alan
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    Group: pota Message: 3137 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: Re: This may be the last batch
    .html
    Philip Nobile <pjn1209@...> wrote:
    >Due out in Feb . . .(although they're 2 months late on their Sep wave):
    >
    >http://www.justbetoys.com/new/ape_astronout.jpg


    Well, the astronauts are good... but that Lawgiver figure is incredible!
    Shame about the price, but I guess the quality is worth it.

    Alan
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    Group: pota Message: 3138 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: Re: This may be the last batch
    .html
    > Well, the astronauts are good... but that Lawgiver figure is incredible!
    > Shame about the price, but I guess the quality is worth it.

    Well, I'd have to admit I don't have any of them, but the Lawgiver is great.
    It's a still piece and would look great anywhere.

    While the rest are well detailed I won't be getting them, not if I want to
    put out a second loan on my house.

    Alex
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    Group: pota Message: 3139 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: Magazine question
    .html
    A few months ago, Retrovision magazine was supposed to be publishing a
    special issue celebrating 2001 : A Space Odyssey and Planet of the Apes.
    Does anyone know if this ever came out? I heard from one source that it had
    been cancelled, but it was unconfirmed - the same source informed me that
    the Inkworks binder had been cancelled when it hadn't!

    Alan
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    Group: pota Message: 3140 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
    .html
    WTF?

    Where's Zira!?! If this is Medcom
    I hope they come through as promised.
    <.html
    Group: pota Message: 3141 From: Philip Nobile Date: 11/15/2000
    Subject: [Fwd: PLANET OF THE APES question]
    .html
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      Group: pota Message: 3142 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/16/2000
      Subject: Re: [Fwd: PLANET OF THE APES question]
      .html
      In a message dated 11/16/00 6:53:37 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
      pjn1209@... writes:

      << To my knowledge, however, none of the "Apes" movies featured a large egg.
      >>

      I believe that was the sci-fi classic . . . Planet of the Eggs
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      Group: pota Message: 3144 From: jim burns Date: 11/16/2000
      Subject: Re: [Fwd: PLANET OF THE APES question]
      .html
      --- In pota@egroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
      "I believe that was the sci-fi classic . . . Planet of the Eggs"


      That's interesting. I had always though that project never got past its embryonic stages...

      Jim
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      Group: pota Message: 3145 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/16/2000
      Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
      .html
      Oh. This sounds like a - not in Canada thing. Bummer. Maybe I'll phone Toys
      R Us today and see what they have on their catalog. I guess I figured when I
      saw the 12" figures that the 7" ones were a sure thing. I have noticed a
      major reduction of all the action figures aisles recently ( and of course of
      the product too) At least I have my poster. - Jeff

      <locutusatwolf359@...> wrote:
      >I was just going to ask a question about POTA figures today. I bought the
      >Hasbro Signature series figures at Toys R Us today. They had Cornelius, Dr.
      >Zaius, Gorilla Soldier, and Commander Taylor.


      At 01:40 PM 11/15/2000 -0700, you wrote:
      >This reminds me, what is the scoop on the 7" Apes figures from Hasbro ? I've
      >never seen them, and they don't even seem to exist on Hasbro's website. What
      >did they do, dump them on the market and then disown them ? - Curious Jeff
      >
      >
      >At 03:04 PM 11/15/2000 EST, you wrote:
      >>Due out in Feb . . .(although they're 2 months late on their Sep wave):
      >>
      >>http://www.justbetoys.com/new/ape_astronout.jpg
      >>_____________
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3146 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/16/2000
      Subject: Re: [Fwd: PLANET OF THE APES question]
      .html
      In a message dated 11/16/00 2:34:20 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
      jameshburns@... writes:

      << That's interesting. I had always though that project never got past its
      embryonic stages...

      Jim >>

      Maybe John Chambers did the prototypes for Alien.
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3147 From: Phil Date: 11/17/2000
      Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
      .html
      --- In pota@egroups.com, "Alan Maxwell" <alan@a...> wrote:
      > The Medicom figures beat them all by a mile.

      More liek a light year. Forget the fact that the detail is about 100
      times better - check the lineup:

      Taylor (loincloth)
      Taylor (astro suit)
      Nova
      Cornelius
      Zira
      Zaius
      Lucius
      3 different soldiers (one from TV show)
      Ursus
      Urko (TV show)
      Cornelius, Zira and Milo in astro suits
      Caesar (slave clothes)
      Slave chimp
      Slave Gorilla
      Caesar (Battle clothes)
      Aldo
      Lawgiver statue

      I would have traded the TV figures for a couple mutants, or even
      Dodge and Landon, but 21 figures?? Nice coverage.
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3148 From: Phil Date: 11/17/2000
      Subject: Re: This may be the last batch
      .html
      --- In pota@egroups.com, "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@b...> wrote:
      >
      > While the rest are well detailed I won't be getting them, not if I
      want to
      > put out a second loan on my house.

      And you call yourself a fan . . .

      Hey, 21 figures (unless you buy multiple slaves, and as a real fan,
      you should), that's only around $650.

      Good God!

      Oh well. The release schedule lets you pace yourself.
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3149 From: Phil Date: 11/17/2000
      Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
      .html
      --- In pota@egroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
      > WTF?
      >
      > Where's Zira!?!

      She's two waves EARLIER.

      Next: Nova, Zira Astro adn Aldo (plus the suspiciously late Taylor
      from a previous wave)

      After that is Caesar, Caesar and slave chimps, along with Astro
      Taylor.

      Last is the Astro male chimps and Lawgiver statue.
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3150 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/17/2000
      Subject: Re: This may be the last batch
      .html
      > And you call yourself a fan . . .
      >
      > Hey, 21 figures (unless you buy multiple slaves, and as a real fan,
      > you should), that's only around $650.
      >

      Call myself a fan?
      With a POTA web site that has cost me more than triple that amount.

      I would say, I AM A FAN!

      Alex
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3151 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/17/2000
      Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
      .html
      In a message dated 11/17/00 3:30:38 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
      pjn1209@... writes:

      << > Where's Zira!?!

      She's two waves EARLIER.
      >>

      Got her...I meant Astro-Zira.
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3152 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/17/2000
      Subject: Re: This may be the last batch/ Hasbro figures ?
      .html
      In a message dated 11/17/00 3:30:38 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
      pjn1209@... writes:

      << Next: Nova, Zira Astro adn Aldo (plus the suspiciously late Taylor
      from a previous wave) >>

      Next wave . . . I can hardly wait! :-)
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3153 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/17/2000
      Subject: Medicom
      .html
      .html
      Dude all of this talk on medicoms is making me want to go out and buy these little expensive bastards again.
       
      I guess this time I'll go through it.
       
      God help me.
       
      Alex
       
       
       
       
      <.html
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3154 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom
      .html
      .html
      Alex,
       
      Just think how much the sons of bitches are going to be AFTER the re-release/re-thinking - they WILL sell out and be fairly difficult and expensive to track down.  Every cent you spend now will save you dollars later!
       
      Michael
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Alexander Ruiz [byruiz@...]
      Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2000 14:07
      To: pota@egroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Medicom

      Dude all of this talk on medicoms is making me want to go out and buy these little expensive bastards again.
       
      I guess this time I'll go through it.
       
      God help me.
       
      Alex
       
       
       
       

      <.html
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3155 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Simonius Says
      .html
      Hi Apes and chimpettes - - -

      Thought I'd chime in here:

      NEWS: The Fox Interactive site says the "Apes" vid game is coming in Spring
      2001. Though at first it seemed we'd get some stuff early (the game, a 2nd
      set of cards) it looks like everything's going to be crammed into the middle
      of next year. How do they expect us to pay for all this?!

      INTERNET SCOOPS: There's certainly been some interesting stuff on the 'net,
      but I take these scoops with a grain of salt. However it IS hard to come up
      with an alternate explanation for those tents sprouting up in the desert.
      But if these rumors are true it sounds like this movie will be alot of fun,
      a nice balance of the old and the new. These days, if they want a "shock"
      ending they're going to have to film it a week before the film opens.

      SUCKEY SEQUELS: Personally, I liked the sequels and as a kid I was more
      disappointed in subsequent sci-fi like "Star Wars", "Star Trek" movies and
      "Alien" because, all though they had better budgets they weren't able to
      blow my mind like "Apes", which had it where it counts: the scripts, the
      plotting and the performances. As for the money, at that time Fox 's hands
      because they were beholden to the banks for about $75 million dollars. The
      success of "The Sound of Music" caused Fox, under the leadership of Mr.
      Richard Zanuck, to back expensive musicals at a time when pop culture was
      interested in something more progressive. The banks stipulated that no film
      could cost more than $2.5 million (post 1970) and "Apes" got screwed by that
      foolishness (including Arthur Jacobs' "Dr. Dolittle", which they thought
      would be their cash cow and they merchandised it like crazy but it wasn't
      popular; "Apes" wasn't merchandised until after Arthur's death). For anyone
      interested in that era, I recommend Stephen Silverman's 1988 book "The Fox
      That Got Away", which I'm currently reading.

      BIRTHDAY: Thanks for the birthday wishes, Lynne!

      "BENEATH": How would I have done "Beneath"? Well, I would have changed the
      first half, which is a pale copy of the original. In retrospect I would have
      given clues to Cornelius and Zira's activities that led to "Escape". If
      they'd known there'd be more sequels they probably wouldn't have blown up
      the world, though. And I would have postponed until Roddy was available.

      RETROVISION: Eric Greene told me about that a couple of years ago. He wrote
      the "Apes" article for it (for the 30th anniversary of both "Apes" and
      "2001" and they even interviewed Roddy before his death). Perhaps it'll come
      out next year, not only because of the new "Apes" but because it's 2001!

      Hey, last week "The Hollywood Reporter " ranked movie directors according
      to their bankability as picked by distributors and execs. Tim Burton was #5,
      right behind Spielberg, Cameron, Lucas and Ron Howard. Burton was #13 the
      last time they did this, in '98, so I guess his rise is due to "Sleepy
      Hollow" and the "Apes" buzz.

      End
      of transmission.

      - - - Jeff Krueger

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Lynne Miller" <cosmicraye@...>
      To: <pota@egroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:22 AM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Getting some "Action!"


      > Hey Jeff,
      >
      > I wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday, too!!! I personally refuse to be
      any
      > older than say, 25! LOL! After that, things get real repetitive and old
      and
      > boring and....keep around that age and interest and you'll never get old
      and
      > boring. I think that's why some people have kids late..so they can stay
      > young. I know of a few who have admitted this!
      >
      > I cannot wait to see if Heston IS going to be in the remake! Nobel Peace
      > Prize, indeed! LOL! I would love to have been a fly on the wall during
      > these talks!
      >
      > GO APES!!!!
      > *Lynne*
      > (still lurking)
      >
      > >From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
      >
      > > Happy Birthday, Lynne! Your e-mails don't look a day over 30. My
      > >birthday
      > >is Nov. 8, so if shooting gets postponed a couple days that's fine with
      me.
      > >I won't say my age but I'm old enough to call "Star Wars" fans
      > >"whippersnappers"!
      > >
      >
      > _____________
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      Group: pota Message: 3156 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom
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      That is true, the bigger the remake becomes the more expensive the original movie merchandise will become.
       
      Alex
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 1:46 AM
      Subject: RE: [pota] Medicom

      Alex,
       
      Just think how much the sons of bitches are going to be AFTER the re-release/re-thinking - they WILL sell out and be fairly difficult and expensive to track down.  Every cent you spend now will save you dollars later!
       
      Michael
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:byruiz@...]
      Sent: Saturday, 18 November 2000 14:07
      To: pota@egroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Medicom

      Dude all of this talk on medicoms is making me want to go out and buy these little expensive bastards again.
       
      I guess this time I'll go through it.
       
      God help me.
       
      Alex
       
       
       
       


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      Group: pota Message: 3157 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: Simonius Says
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      .html Answers to the questions:

      Jack Krueger wrote:

      Hi Apes and chimpettes - - -

        Thought I'd chime in here:

      NEWS: The Fox Interactive site says the "Apes" vid game is coming in Spring
      2001. Though at first it seemed we'd get some stuff early (the game, a 2nd
      set of cards) it looks like everything's going to be crammed into the middle
      of next year. How do they expect us to pay for all this?!

      Same way we plan to, GET A JOB!

      (Sorry, Jeff.   THAT was just too darn easy!!!)

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      Group: pota Message: 3158 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: Simonius Says
      .html
      BRIAN: Alright, I'll get a job, but I'm NOT going to get a haircut!

      TRIVIA: I congratulated Linda Harrison this morning about her new "Apes"
      part and she told me the actual start of filming was Nov. 7. Well, we had to
      know.


      - - - - Jeff Krueger
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
      To: <pota@egroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 12:55 AM
      Subject: [pota] Simonius Says


      > Hi Apes and chimpettes - - -
      >
      > Thought I'd chime in here:
      >
      > NEWS: The Fox Interactive site says the "Apes" vid game is coming in
      Spring
      > 2001. Though at first it seemed we'd get some stuff early (the game, a 2nd
      > set of cards) it looks like everything's going to be crammed into the
      middle
      > of next year. How do they expect us to pay for all this?!
      >
      > INTERNET SCOOPS: There's certainly been some interesting stuff on the
      'net,
      > but I take these scoops with a grain of salt. However it IS hard to come
      up
      > with an alternate explanation for those tents sprouting up in the desert.
      > But if these rumors are true it sounds like this movie will be alot of
      fun,
      > a nice balance of the old and the new. These days, if they want a "shock"
      > ending they're going to have to film it a week before the film opens.
      >
      > SUCKEY SEQUELS: Personally, I liked the sequels and as a kid I was more
      > disappointed in subsequent sci-fi like "Star Wars", "Star Trek" movies and
      > "Alien" because, all though they had better budgets they weren't able to
      > blow my mind like "Apes", which had it where it counts: the scripts, the
      > plotting and the performances. As for the money, at that time Fox 's hands
      > because they were beholden to the banks for about $75 million dollars. The
      > success of "The Sound of Music" caused Fox, under the leadership of Mr.
      > Richard Zanuck, to back expensive musicals at a time when pop culture was
      > interested in something more progressive. The banks stipulated that no
      film
      > could cost more than $2.5 million (post 1970) and "Apes" got screwed by
      that
      > foolishness (including Arthur Jacobs' "Dr. Dolittle", which they thought
      > would be their cash cow and they merchandised it like crazy but it wasn't
      > popular; "Apes" wasn't merchandised until after Arthur's death). For
      anyone
      > interested in that era, I recommend Stephen Silverman's 1988 book "The Fox
      > That Got Away", which I'm currently reading.
      >
      > BIRTHDAY: Thanks for the birthday wishes, Lynne!
      >
      > "BENEATH": How would I have done "Beneath"? Well, I would have changed the
      > first half, which is a pale copy of the original. In retrospect I would
      have
      > given clues to Cornelius and Zira's activities that led to "Escape". If
      > they'd known there'd be more sequels they probably wouldn't have blown up
      > the world, though. And I would have postponed until Roddy was available.
      >
      > RETROVISION: Eric Greene told me about that a couple of years ago. He
      wrote
      > the "Apes" article for it (for the 30th anniversary of both "Apes" and
      > "2001" and they even interviewed Roddy before his death). Perhaps it'll
      come
      > out next year, not only because of the new "Apes" but because it's 2001!
      >
      > Hey, last week "The Hollywood Reporter " ranked movie directors
      according
      > to their bankability as picked by distributors and execs. Tim Burton was
      #5,
      > right behind Spielberg, Cameron, Lucas and Ron Howard. Burton was #13 the
      > last time they did this, in '98, so I guess his rise is due to "Sleepy
      > Hollow" and the "Apes" buzz.
      >
      >
      End
      > of transmission.
      >
      > - - - Jeff Krueger
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Lynne Miller" <cosmicraye@...>
      > To: <pota@egroups.com>
      > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:22 AM
      > Subject: Re: [pota] Getting some "Action!"
      >
      >
      > > Hey Jeff,
      > >
      > > I wanted to wish you a Happy Birthday, too!!! I personally refuse to be
      > any
      > > older than say, 25! LOL! After that, things get real repetitive and old
      > and
      > > boring and....keep around that age and interest and you'll never get old
      > and
      > > boring. I think that's why some people have kids late..so they can stay
      > > young. I know of a few who have admitted this!
      > >
      > > I cannot wait to see if Heston IS going to be in the remake! Nobel
      Peace
      > > Prize, indeed! LOL! I would love to have been a fly on the wall during
      > > these talks!
      > >
      > > GO APES!!!!
      > > *Lynne*
      > > (still lurking)
      > >
      > > >From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
      > >
      > > > Happy Birthday, Lynne! Your e-mails don't look a day over 30. My
      > > >birthday
      > > >is Nov. 8, so if shooting gets postponed a couple days that's fine with
      > me.
      > > >I won't say my age but I'm old enough to call "Star Wars" fans
      > > >"whippersnappers"!
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      _____________
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      Group: pota Message: 3159 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: POTA/Columbo
      .html
      Was channel surfing today and came across an episode of Columbo
      titled "Short Fuse". Roddy McDowall was the villian. He plays a '70's
      swinger who kills his evil uncle who is trying to sell the family
      chemical company. And who plays the dear old uncle? None other than
      James Gregory. Roddy blows him up with a booby trapped box of cigars!
      The episode also features William Windom as another company
      executive. Talk about simian synergy. Great bit with Roddy
      establishing his alibi by hangin' at Club Narcisse, complete with go-
      go dancers in cages! Party on Cornelius!
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      Group: pota Message: 3160 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: Simonius Says
      .html
      .html
      I tell you what Brian, a 50% discount on all Apemania products for all POTA egroup members could mean we may stay unemployed a BIT longer.......I could spend about $50 000 on your site without blinking!  Then I would just have to figure how to get a life-size Lawgiver bust to Australia - charter a yacht?
       
      MIchael
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Dumont [afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2000 4:14
      To: pota@egroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Simonius Says

      Answers to the questions:

      Jack Krueger wrote:

      Hi Apes and chimpettes - - -

        Thought I'd chime in here:

      NEWS: The Fox Interactive site says the "Apes" vid game is coming in Spring
      2001. Though at first it seemed we'd get some stuff early (the game, a 2nd
      set of cards) it looks like everything's going to be crammed into the middle
      of next year. How do they expect us to pay for all this?!

      Same way we plan to, GET A JOB!

      (Sorry, Jeff.   THAT was just too darn easy!!!)

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      Group: pota Message: 3161 From: Edie Miller Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: POTA/Columbo
      .html
      Roddy was a good actor no matter what part he played. I saw this too,
      years ago. He was good in it.
      Edie
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <JSe3689836@...>
      To: <pota@egroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 3:16 PM
      Subject: [pota] POTA/Columbo


      Was channel surfing today and came across an episode of Columbo
      titled "Short Fuse". Roddy McDowall was the villian. He plays a '70's
      swinger who kills his evil uncle who is trying to sell the family
      chemical company. And who plays the dear old uncle? None other than
      James Gregory. Roddy blows him up with a booby trapped box of cigars!
      The episode also features William Windom as another company
      executive. Talk about simian synergy. Great bit with Roddy
      establishing his alibi by hangin' at Club Narcisse, complete with go-
      go dancers in cages! Party on Cornelius!
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      Group: pota Message: 3162 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Yachts and Yahoos
      .html
      .html  
      Hi Michael,

      (point-by-point)

      Michael Whitty wrote:

       I tell you what Brian, a 50% discount on all Apemania products for all POTA egroup members could mean we may stay unemployed a BIT longer.......
       

      50% aye?  I'll have to think about that.  I'll see if I can dig up Cathy Lee's child laborers to help me cut production costs.  If not, how does a 10% discount for the holidays sound?

      I could spend about $50 000 on your site without blinking!

      $50 G's?  I'm blushing!!!
       

      Then I would just have to figure how to get a life-size Lawgiver bust to Australia - charter a yacht?
      We just shipped a full statue to a guy in Japan, and he only spent $1,400+ for passage on the yacht of his choice.  So a bust would'nt be too much more!!!  Just Kidding.  I can have our cargo company give me a quote on shipping a bust down under for you, if'n you like.  Just send me your address and I'll get right on it.

      Check out the long awaited GORILLA GUARD economy mask we just debuted.   Zira will follow in about 2 weeks...

      <http://apemania.com/MASKS/ECONOMY/ECONS/Guard.jpeg>
      <http://apemania.com/MASKS/ECONOMY/ECONS/GUARD_B&B.jpeg>
       Enjoy!

      Brian
      Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
       
       
        

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Dumont [mailto:afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2000 4:14
      To: pota@egroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Simonius Says
       
      Answers to the questions:

      Jack Krueger wrote:

      Hi Apes and chimpettes - - -

        Thought I'd chime in here:

      NEWS: The Fox Interactive site says the "Apes" vid game is coming in Spring
      2001. Though at first it seemed we'd get some stuff early (the game, a 2nd
      set of cards) it looks like everything's going to be crammed into the middle
      of next year. How do they expect us to pay for all this?!

      Same way we plan to, GET A JOB!

      (Sorry, Jeff.   THAT was just too darn easy!!!)
       

       
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3163 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: Yachts and Yahoos
      .html
      .html

      Check out the long awaited GORILLA GUARD economy mask we just debuted.   Zira will follow in about 2 weeks...

      <http://apemania.com/MASKS/ECONOMY/ECONS/Guard.jpeg>
      <http://apemania.com/MASKS/ECONOMY/ECONS/GUARD_B&B.jpeg>
       Enjoy!

      Brian
      Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM

      Nice work Brian, I've just placed a video clip of you guys promoting the new Apes Video Game a while ago.

      The link is: www.prophecysite.com/videogame.mpg

      Enjoy

      Alex

       

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      Group: pota Message: 3164 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Rick Baker
      .html
      .html
      Say does anyone know of any fan web sites on Rick Baker?
      I can't seem to find any.
       
      Is there an offical web site?
      There doesn't seem to be any web sites on makeup artists (-brian's of course)
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3165 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Video Clips
      .html
      .html
       
      WOW Alex!  Where on earth did you find THAT footage???

      Those shows are always fun.  Filling in for Laird Macintosh (on assignment with Spielburg and Hanks in Europe) as Dr. Zaius was  Brian (Last American Virgin / Return of the Living Dead) Peck and Julius was played by Andy (Edward Scissorhands/AP2 The Spy WHo Shagged Me) Schoneburg.  But Oh that Angela Emery!!!  Hubba Hubba!!!

      Great clip!  Keep up the good work!

      Brian

      Alexander Ruiz wrote:

       
      Nice work Brian, I've just placed a video clip of you guys promoting the new Apes Video Game a while ago.

      The link is: www.prophecysite.com/videogame.mpg

      Enjoy

      Alex

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      Group: pota Message: 3166 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: Yachts and Yahoos
      .html
      PS: Where did you find that NRA spoof? Hysterical!!!

      B
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      Group: pota Message: 3167 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: Video Clips
      .html
      .html
      WOW Alex!  Where on earth did you find THAT footage???

      Those shows are always fun.  Filling in for Laird Macintosh (on assignment with Spielburg and Hanks in Europe) as Dr. Zaius was  Brian (Last American Virgin / Return of the Living Dead) Peck and Julius was played by Andy (Edward Scissorhands/AP2 The Spy WHo Shagged Me) Schoneburg.  But Oh that Angela Emery!!!  Hubba Hubba!!!

      Great clip!  Keep up the good work!

      Brian

       

      Thanks Brian.

      That show did seem to be a lot of fun to do.

      This was a tape that a POTA fan Kurt from Canada sent me, It has a lot of neat footage on it. Heston Interviews, POTA Commercial with Cornelius, NRA SPOOF, Rick Baker and The Video Game promotion along with much more.

      The NRA was a spoof created by Saturday Night Live a while back, I also have the spot on the Donnie and Marie show.

      I'll make a copy of this tape along with Donnie and Marie and send it to Apemania for you guys to enjoy. I'll even through in my CD as well.

      Hope you enjoy it.

      Alex

       

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      Group: pota Message: 3168 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/18/2000
      Subject: Re: POTA/Columbo
      .html
      In a message dated 11/18/00 9:17:17 PM !!!First Boot!!!, JSe3689836@...
      writes:

      << Was channel surfing today and came across an episode of Columbo
      titled "Short Fuse". Roddy McDowall was the villian. >>

      Kim Hunter also did a Columbo episode called Suitable For Framing with Wild
      Wild West star Ross Martin as the villain.
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      Group: pota Message: 3169 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/19/2000
      Subject: Run, don't walk to the Retrovision web
      .html
      Someone mentioned "Retrovision magazine here the other day, so for kicks I
      checked to see if they have a website. They do, and it includes a transcript
      of a satellite promotion for "Behind the POTA" with interviews of most
      participants (about 15 pgs. worth. Check it out! - - - Jeff Krueger
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <JSe3689836@...>
      To: <pota@egroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 1:16 PM
      Subject: [pota] POTA/Columbo


      > Was channel surfing today and came across an episode of Columbo
      > titled "Short Fuse". Roddy McDowall was the villian. He plays a '70's
      > swinger who kills his evil uncle who is trying to sell the family
      > chemical company. And who plays the dear old uncle? None other than
      > James Gregory. Roddy blows him up with a booby trapped box of cigars!
      > The episode also features William Windom as another company
      > executive. Talk about simian synergy. Great bit with Roddy
      > establishing his alibi by hangin' at Club Narcisse, complete with go-
      > go dancers in cages! Party on Cornelius!
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3170 From: Pete Harrison Date: 11/19/2000
      Subject: Re: Run, don't walk to the Retrovision web
      .html
      great trranscript, thanks so much for digging it up for us all to enjoy. the
      url is:
      http://www.retrovisionmag.com/AMC.htm#AMERICAN MOVIE CLASSICS

      pete h
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jack Krueger <williejoe@...>
      To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
      Date: Sunday, November 19, 2000 12:06 AM
      Subject: [pota] Run, don't walk to the Retrovision web


      > Someone mentioned "Retrovision magazine here the other day, so for kicks
      I
      >checked to see if they have a website. They do, and it includes a
      transcript
      >of a satellite promotion for "Behind the POTA" with interviews of most
      >participants (about 15 pgs. worth. Check it out! - - - Jeff Krueger
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: <JSe3689836@...>
      >To: <pota@egroups.com>
      >Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 1:16 PM
      >Subject: [pota] POTA/Columbo
      >
      >
      >> Was channel surfing today and came across an episode of Columbo
      >> titled "Short Fuse". Roddy McDowall was the villian. He plays a '70's
      >> swinger who kills his evil uncle who is trying to sell the family
      >> chemical company. And who plays the dear old uncle? None other than
      >> James Gregory. Roddy blows him up with a booby trapped box of cigars!
      >> The episode also features William Windom as another company
      >> executive. Talk about simian synergy. Great bit with Roddy
      >> establishing his alibi by hangin' at Club Narcisse, complete with go-
      >> go dancers in cages! Party on Cornelius!
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3171 From: Michael Whitty Date: 11/19/2000
      Subject: Re: Yachts and Yahoos
      .html
      .html
      Make that $51,000.
       
      Michael
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Dumont [afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2000 12:49
      To: pota@egroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Yachts and Yahoos

       
      Hi Michael,

      (point-by-point)

      Michael Whitty wrote:

       I tell you what Brian, a 50% discount on all Apemania products for all POTA egroup members could mean we may stay unemployed a BIT longer.......
       

      50% aye?  I'll have to think about that.  I'll see if I can dig up Cathy Lee's child laborers to help me cut production costs.  If not, how does a 10% discount for the holidays sound?

      I could spend about $50 000 on your site without blinking!

      $50 G's?  I'm blushing!!!
       

      Then I would just have to figure how to get a life-size Lawgiver bust to Australia - charter a yacht?
      We just shipped a full statue to a guy in Japan, and he only spent $1,400+ for passage on the yacht of his choice.  So a bust would'nt be too much more!!!  Just Kidding.  I can have our cargo company give me a quote on shipping a bust down under for you, if'n you like.  Just send me your address and I'll get right on it.

      Check out the long awaited GORILLA GUARD economy mask we just debuted.   Zira will follow in about 2 weeks...

      <http://apemania.com/MASKS/ECONOMY/ECONS/Guard.jpeg>
      <http://apemania.com/MASKS/ECONOMY/ECONS/GUARD_B&B.jpeg>
       Enjoy!

      Brian
      Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
       
       
        

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Dumont [mailto:afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2000 4:14
      To: pota@egroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Simonius Says
      Answers to the questions:

      Jack Krueger wrote:

      Hi Apes and chimpettes - - -

        Thought I'd chime in here:

      NEWS: The Fox Interactive site says the "Apes" vid game is coming in Spring
      2001. Though at first it seemed we'd get some stuff early (the game, a 2nd
      set of cards) it looks like everything's going to be crammed into the middle
      of next year. How do they expect us to pay for all this?!

      Same way we plan to, GET A JOB!

      (Sorry, Jeff.   THAT was just too darn easy!!!)
       

       


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      Group: pota Message: 3172 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/20/2000
      Subject: Re: [potavision]
      .html
      Last night on Discovery . . .
      They did a show on the CIA's master of deception. And on the first section
      on disguise the mentioned adopting the groundbreaking make up techniques of
      POTA, and how it was only the second film to win for make-up. And they showed
      the clip of John Chambers making appliances and doing the proto-chimp guy.
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      Group: pota Message: 3173 From: adami Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: Re: [potavision]
      .html
      .html Hi!

      Do you have a copy of the show?

      Adami

      LordTZer0@... gravada:

       

          Last night on Discovery . . .
      They did a show on the CIA's master of deception.  And on the first section
      on disguise the mentioned adopting the groundbreaking make up techniques of
      POTA, and how it was only the second film to win for make-up. And they showed
      the clip of John Chambers making appliances and doing the proto-chimp guy.

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      Group: pota Message: 3174 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: Re: [potavision]
      .html
      .html Here's the Discovery Channel's schedule for other airings of the show, in case everyone missed it.  I understand that John Chambers is mentioned in it.  Personally, John has shared some great stories with me about when he was involved with CIA "impossible missions" during the Carter administration.  Maybe this show talks about those events too. (I haven't seen it yet)  Enjoy.

      Brian
       

                                   DISCOVERY CHANNEL'S:
                                  "The Master of Deception"

                                      Crack the code of some of the CIA's most
                                      closely guarded deception techniques with
                                      retired CIA Chief of Disguise Antonio Mendez.
                                      Examine the four traditions of deception
                                      utilized by the CIA: entertainment, spiritual,
                                      strategic and fraud.

                                      Air Time(s) Eastern/Pacific Time:
                                      DSC Nov 19 2000 1:00 AM
                                      DSC Nov 19 2000 9:00 PM
                                      DSC Nov 26 2000 7:00 PM
                                      DSC Nov 29 2000 12:00 AM
                                      DSC Nov 29 2000 8:00 PM
                                      DSC Dec 2 2000 2:00 PM

      adami wrote:

      Hi!

      Do you have a copy of the show?

      Adami

      LordTZer0@... gravada:

       

          Last night on Discovery . . .
      They did a show on the CIA's master of deception.  And on the first section
      on disguise the mentioned adopting the groundbreaking make up techniques of
      POTA, and how it was only the second film to win for make-up. And they showed
      the clip of John Chambers making appliances and doing the proto-chimp guy.

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      Group: pota Message: 3175 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: Re: [potavision]
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      Here's the Discovery Channel's schedule for other airings of the show, in case everyone missed it.  I understand that John Chambers is mentioned in it.  Personally, John has shared some great stories with me about when he was involved with CIA "impossible missions" during the Carter administration.  Maybe this show talks about those events too. (I haven't seen it yet)  Enjoy.

      Brian
       

                                   DISCOVERY CHANNEL'S:
                                  "The Master of Deception"

                                      Crack the code of some of the CIA's most
                                      closely guarded deception techniques with
                                      retired CIA Chief of Disguise Antonio Mendez.
                                      Examine the four traditions of deception
                                      utilized by the CIA: entertainment, spiritual,
                                      strategic and fraud.

                                      Air Time(s) Eastern/Pacific Time:
                                      DSC Nov 19 2000 1:00 AM
                                      DSC Nov 19 2000 9:00 PM
                                      DSC Nov 26 2000 7:00 PM
                                      DSC Nov 29 2000 12:00 AM
                                      DSC Nov 29 2000 8:00 PM
                                      DSC Dec 2 2000 2:00 PM

      Great!

      I'll keep both my VHS and Mpeg maker warm!

      Thanks

      Alex

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      Group: pota Message: 3176 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: Re: [potavision]
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      Hi!

      Do you have a copy of the show?

      Adami

      Say Adami,

      What happened to your web site?

      I keep getting a broken link, did you remove it or did you move it?

      Alex 

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      Group: pota Message: 3177 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: Makeup Transformation
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      Hey gang,
      Here is another update on the site. POTA  fan James Kocher sent me an mpeg of him transforming into an ape.
       
      here's another mpeg I'm sure you'll enjoy Brian.
       
       
      You'll find the update on the front page under "UPDATES".
       
      Enjoy, and Happy Thanksgiving Day everyone! (In the U.S. of course, and overseas if you wish :o)
       
      Alex
       
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      Group: pota Message: 3178 From: Lynne Miller Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom
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      Go, Alex, Go!! Where can I get these Mediacom thingies??! I want some, so
      don't buy them all, Alex!
      *Lynne*
      (on the way back to FL)


      >From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
      >Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
      >To: <pota@egroups.com>
      >Subject: [pota] Medicom
      >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 22:07:26 -0500
      >
      >Dude all of this talk on medicoms is making me want to go out and buy these
      >little expensive bastards again.
      >
      >I guess this time I'll go through it.
      >
      >God help me.
      >
      >Alex
      >
      >
      >
      >

      _________________________
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      Group: pota Message: 3179 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: POTA bits in Total Movie Mag
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      Total Movie is a new movie mag. Think of it as an American
      version of the British Mags Total Film & Empire. Just got Issue #2.
      Has George Clooney on the cover for that new Coen Brothers flick.
      Anyhow, on page 44 they have an article titled "Those Damn Dirty
      Apes". Has "exclusive" info straight from Zanuck. Nothing that we
      haven't already heard. Then on page 103 they have a review of the
      DVD. The website is www.total-movie.com. They still have it set up
      for the first issue, but I'm sure the POTA stuff will be in when they
      update. Enjoy, everbody! Go Apes!!! John
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      Group: pota Message: 3180 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom
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      > Go, Alex, Go!! Where can I get these Mediacom thingies??! I want some,
      so
      > don't buy them all, Alex!
      > *Lynne*
      > (on the way back to FL)

      There is a site at: www.justbetoys.com
      There they have POTA medicom figures, I'm waiting to get a hold of those
      Caesar and Conquest figures, Ape-o-nauts and Lawgiver.
      It's just a matter as to when Justbe gets a hold of them.

      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3181 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom
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      > Go, Alex, Go!! Where can I get these Mediacom thingies??! I want some,
      so
      > don't buy them all, Alex!
      > *Lynne*
      > (on the way back to FL)

      Oh, and welcome back to Florida!
      Home of Election Maddness!!!!

      It's a Mad House!!!
      A MAD HOUSE!!!!

      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3182 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/21/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom
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      Can't you just see Cornelius & Zira holding up those cards, lookin' for
      chad? Dr. Zaius yellin' "I won damn it, I won!!!!" A Madhouse indeed.
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      Group: pota Message: 3184 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/22/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom/CHAD ?
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      Psst ! Being in Canada, and busy enough ignoring our own Political monkey
      house - what is CHAD ? I've heard it a couple of times. Of course, never in
      a context that means anything. Now back to my banana. - Jeff


      At 12:05 AM 11/22/2000 EST, you wrote:
      > Can't you just see Cornelius & Zira holding up those cards, lookin' for
      >chad? Dr. Zaius yellin' "I won damn it, I won!!!!" A Madhouse indeed.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3185 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 11/22/2000
      Subject: Alex's CD
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      Hello--

      'Just a way overdue note--

      'Sorry, Alex!--

      To say how terrific I think the APES CD that Alexander Ruiz put
      together, is!

      It constantly amazes me, to what great efforts, the PLANET OF THE APES
      series, has inspired people.

      Having been a part of, I suppose, APES "fandom," since the film's
      ORIGINAL release--

      I have to say that Alex's efforts are amongst the BEST I've seen.

      First, I was knocked out by his website--

      And now, he's put together this terrific album/CD!

      Whoever thought that Pierre Boulle's fancy, and Arthur P. Jacob's
      production--

      Would lead to a fun, blast of tekno-type music!

      Alex--

      Thanks again for sending it!

      Best,

      Jim Burns
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      Group: pota Message: 3186 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/22/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom/CHAD ?
      .html
      > Psst ! Being in Canada, and busy enough ignoring our own Political monkey
      > house - what is CHAD ? I've heard it a couple of times. Of course, never
      in
      > a context that means anything. Now back to my banana. - Jeff

      A chad is that little piece of paper that is punched when voting.
      Ans so some are fully punched through with no chad left and some are still
      on the balot and hagging by a lim.

      Crazy I know, but as they say:
      Only in America!

      hehehehe!!

      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3187 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/22/2000
      Subject: Re: Alex's CD
      .html
      > Hello--
      >
      > 'Just a way overdue note--
      >
      > 'Sorry, Alex!--
      >
      > To say how terrific I think the APES CD that Alexander Ruiz put
      > together, is!
      >
      > It constantly amazes me, to what great efforts, the PLANET OF THE APES
      > series, has inspired people.
      >
      > Having been a part of, I suppose, APES "fandom," since the film's
      > ORIGINAL release--
      >
      > I have to say that Alex's efforts are amongst the BEST I've seen.
      >
      > First, I was knocked out by his website--
      >
      > And now, he's put together this terrific album/CD!
      >
      > Whoever thought that Pierre Boulle's fancy, and Arthur P. Jacob's
      > production--
      >
      > Would lead to a fun, blast of tekno-type music!
      >
      > Alex--
      >
      > Thanks again for sending it!
      >
      > Best,
      >
      > Jim Burns

      Thanks Jim,
      I'll have another CD out by the time of the new remake with tekno-rock type
      music as well. The CD did come out quite amazing if I do say so myself, I
      myself haven't got sick of listening to it yet.
      There's just something adictive about it.

      It came out pretty cool.

      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3188 From: Jeff Doten Date: 11/22/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom/CHAD ?
      .html
      Thanks now I have to say, " hagging by a lim " ? I think I need another
      banana ( or as my daughter who's 3 calls them - bobanas ) - Jeff

      At 11:31 AM 11/22/2000 -0500, you wrote:
      >> Psst ! Being in Canada, and busy enough ignoring our own Political monkey
      >> house - what is CHAD ? I've heard it a couple of times. Of course, never
      >in
      >> a context that means anything. Now back to my banana. - Jeff
      >
      >A chad is that little piece of paper that is punched when voting.
      >Ans so some are fully punched through with no chad left and some are still
      >on the balot and hagging by a lim.
      >
      >Crazy I know, but as they say:
      >Only in America!
      >
      >hehehehe!!
      >
      >Alex
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3189 From: Dave Ballard Date: 11/22/2000
      Subject: TV Show.
      .html
      Hi Everyone,

      Quick question for you all. Has anyone ever heard anything of any
      unproduced scripts from the TV show? I'm not talking about the early
      Rod Serling Pilots but scripts that were produced while the show was
      still running. There must have been some... It couldn't have been
      cancelled that abruptly.

      Dave (Still keeping dry)
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      Group: pota Message: 3190 From: Mark Gould Date: 11/22/2000
      Subject: Re: Medicom/CHAD ?
      .html
      And where are the parties on the Pro Chimpanzee Plank? And don't forget the
      Gorillas and the Orangutans?

      M

      >> Psst ! Being in Canada, and busy enough ignoring our own Political monkey
      >> house - what is CHAD ? I've heard it a couple of times. Of course, never
      > in
      >> a context that means anything. Now back to my banana. - Jeff
      >
      > A chad is that little piece of paper that is punched when voting.
      > Ans so some are fully punched through with no chad left and some are still
      > on the balot and hagging by a lim.
      >
      > Crazy I know, but as they say:
      > Only in America!
      >
      > hehehehe!!
      >
      > Alex
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3191 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/22/2000
      Subject: Chad
      .html
      .html
      What can I tell you Jeff.
      I'm a creative genius, and a spelling b champion.
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3192 From: Pete Harrison Date: 11/22/2000
      Subject: Re: TV Show.
      .html
      Dave
      The only stuff I have seen is ebay stuff.scripts that WERE made into
      episodes. Will try to look for more info, good point. Cheers and Happy
      Holidays to you all.
      Pete Harrison, Forbidden Zone, AZ
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Dave Ballard <dballard@...>
      To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
      Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 11:15 AM
      Subject: [pota] TV Show.


      >Hi Everyone,
      >
      >Quick question for you all. Has anyone ever heard anything of any
      >unproduced scripts from the TV show? I'm not talking about the early
      >Rod Serling Pilots but scripts that were produced while the show was
      >still running. There must have been some... It couldn't have been
      >cancelled that abruptly.
      >
      >Dave (Still keeping dry)
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3193 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/24/2000
      Subject: CHAMBER'S TALENT: IMPOSSIBLE
      .html
      Hi everyone . . . .

      There was an issue of "Reader's Digest" a couple of years ago that had a
      whole article about how John Chambers helped the U.S. government during the
      Iranian hostage crisis in the late '70's. They did a cover story that they
      were a movie company so they could get into Iran. I've got that issue
      somewhere, I'll have to dig it up. When I interviewed Chambers I asked him
      what he was proudest of and he said serving his country with these CIA
      operations.

      What did everyone think of those "Retrovision" transcripts?

      TV show: I know there are 4 unproduced TV episode scripts floating
      around, 2 by Rod Serling, all before the show got started. When I
      interviewed Ron Harper he said they were cancelled before that "Up Above the
      World So High" episode (about hang gliding). Then they got a reprieve and
      did that episode. When I asked him why they didn't use that opportunity to
      wrap up the show, since cancellation was imminent, he said they always clung
      to the hope they would be picked up (Bill Blake tells me they were planning
      to bring Gene Roddenbury in and restructure the show). So much had been
      spent on the show and it had been so hyped up they couldn't believe they
      were cancelled that quickly.

      I saw all 3 of those Japanese tin wind up toys (Cornelius, Ursus, Soldier
      Ape). They looked GREAT! Alas, they're $150 each, so Sianora.

      Thanks for your attention,


      Jeff Krueger
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Pete Harrison" <pasta@...>
      To: <pota@egroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 11:22 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Run, don't walk to the Retrovision web


      > great trranscript, thanks so much for digging it up for us all to enjoy.
      the
      > url is:
      > http://www.retrovisionmag.com/AMC.htm#AMERICAN MOVIE CLASSICS
      >
      > pete h
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Jack Krueger <williejoe@...>
      > To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
      > Date: Sunday, November 19, 2000 12:06 AM
      > Subject: [pota] Run, don't walk to the Retrovision web
      >
      >
      > > Someone mentioned "Retrovision magazine here the other day, so for
      kicks
      > I
      > >checked to see if they have a website. They do, and it includes a
      > transcript
      > >of a satellite promotion for "Behind the POTA" with interviews of most
      > >participants (about 15 pgs. worth. Check it out! - - - Jeff Krueger
      > >----- Original Message -----
      > >From: <JSe3689836@...>
      > >To: <pota@egroups.com>
      > >Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 1:16 PM
      > >Subject: [pota] POTA/Columbo
      > >
      > >
      > >> Was channel surfing today and came across an episode of Columbo
      > >> titled "Short Fuse". Roddy McDowall was the villian. He plays a '70's
      > >> swinger who kills his evil uncle who is trying to sell the family
      > >> chemical company. And who plays the dear old uncle? None other than
      > >> James Gregory. Roddy blows him up with a booby trapped box of cigars!
      > >> The episode also features William Windom as another company
      > >> executive. Talk about simian synergy. Great bit with Roddy
      > >> establishing his alibi by hangin' at Club Narcisse, complete with go-
      > >> go dancers in cages! Party on Cornelius!
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3194 From: Jack Krueger Date: 11/24/2000
      Subject: Web Updates
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      A few things I got off the web today of no real consequence:

      Movieheadlines.com says Emmanuel Lubezki is the "Apes" director of
      photography; He did Burton's "Sleepy Hollow" among other things.

      Movieheadlines again: Fox is going to adapt Leonardo Di Vinci's "Vitruvian
      Man" as the basis for their "Apes" poster (it will be half man, half ape);
      reminds me of the recent adaptation of the famed evolutionary scale for
      various "Ape" purposes.

      Harry Knowles, proprietor of "ain't it cool news", probably the most
      infamous movie news website, put up a list of the many DVDs that he owns.
      Among them are the "Apes" films. His ratings?. . . .

      "PLANET": "essential"
      "BENEATH": "wonderful sequel"
      "ESCAPE":" great sequel"
      " CONQUEST": "weakest"
      "BATTLE": "weak"

      All opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of the
      management of this e-mail. - - - - - Jeff Krueger
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Pete Harrison" <pasta@...>
      To: <pota@egroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 11:22 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Run, don't walk to the Retrovision web


      > great trranscript, thanks so much for digging it up for us all to enjoy.
      the
      > url is:
      > http://www.retrovisionmag.com/AMC.htm#AMERICAN MOVIE CLASSICS
      >
      > pete h
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Jack Krueger <williejoe@...>
      > To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
      > Date: Sunday, November 19, 2000 12:06 AM
      > Subject: [pota] Run, don't walk to the Retrovision web
      >
      >
      > > Someone mentioned "Retrovision magazine here the other day, so for
      kicks
      > I
      > >checked to see if they have a website. They do, and it includes a
      > transcript
      > >of a satellite promotion for "Behind the POTA" with interviews of most
      > >participants (about 15 pgs. worth. Check it out! - - - Jeff Krueger
      > >----- Original Message -----
      > >From: <JSe3689836@...>
      > >To: <pota@egroups.com>
      > >Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2000 1:16 PM
      > >Subject: [pota] POTA/Columbo
      > >
      > >
      > >> Was channel surfing today and came across an episode of Columbo
      > >> titled "Short Fuse". Roddy McDowall was the villian. He plays a '70's
      > >> swinger who kills his evil uncle who is trying to sell the family
      > >> chemical company. And who plays the dear old uncle? None other than
      > >> James Gregory. Roddy blows him up with a booby trapped box of cigars!
      > >> The episode also features William Windom as another company
      > >> executive. Talk about simian synergy. Great bit with Roddy
      > >> establishing his alibi by hangin' at Club Narcisse, complete with go-
      > >> go dancers in cages! Party on Cornelius!
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >>
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3195 From: dan piercy Date: 11/27/2000
      Subject: Ape Has Killed Ape
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      Has anyone heard this band, Ape Has Killed Ape, from LA?

      "This project contains members of Leather Hyman and W.A.C.O., along
      with three theremins and sampled dialog from Planet Of The Apes
      films. It is both a satire of rock music and a Swiftian essay on the
      nature of power and control found in same. Actors from Planet Of the
      Apes films frequently perform, in costume, with this group, who
      manage to draw hundreds of people to each of their shows. The front
      cover shows Leather Hyman drummer Matt Stein with his mother
      (Mattricide -- get it?) and frying on LSD at school marching band
      practice, age 14, on the back."

      That has got to be bullshit about actors from the film performing.
      Sounds interesting; I bought a copy from cdnow.
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      Group: pota Message: 3196 From: Dave Ballard Date: 11/27/2000
      Subject: Re: Ape Has Killed Ape
      .html
      Hi Dan,

      I think this is the "percussion led" band that Jeff Krueger has
      mentioned a few times on this very group.

      The actors are Natalie Trundy and Bill Blake. (But I don't think
      that's a regular thing)

      If you go through old postings from "Jack Krueger" I'm sure you'll
      find more info. Otherwise I'm sure Jeff will throw some light on this
      subject this coming weekend (he only posts at the weekend)

      Hope this helps,
      Dave
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      Group: pota Message: 3197 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/28/2000
      Subject: Army Archerd's column included this Apes report
      .html
      Amry Archerd's VARIETY column for today, November 28, 2000, included
      this about the Apes remake:

      Liberal and reactionary politics -- and monkey bizness: The
      Senate, in Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes" produced by
      Richard Zanuck now boasts the addition of David Warner -- to
      play an esteemed liberal member of the apes' Senate and
      father of Helena Bonham Carter. They sympathize with the
      plight of the oppressed humans -- two of whom are Mark
      Wahlberg and Estella Warren. On the other side of the Senate
      aisle is Tim Roth, the ape leader who considers humans as
      animals, as does Michael Clarke Duncan. Warner reminds that
      this is not the first time he has gone ape. In 1966 he
      starred in the title role of "Morgan -- A Suitable Case for
      Treatment" and in the final scene he donned a gorilla suit
      to disrupt his ex-wife's wedding. Warner has high praise for
      Rick Baker's extraordinary "Planet of the Apes" makeup --
      even if he has to report at 3 a.m. Helena Bonham Carter's
      makeup call is 2:30 a.m. That's really showbiz!

      Hunter
      ------
      Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/
      <goathunter@...> http://www.goatley.com/hunter/
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      Group: pota Message: 3198 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 11/28/2000
      Subject: Re: Army Archerd's column included this Apes report
      .html
      Thanks for the heads-up, Hunter. I've heard some buzz about Warner being
      involved. It's nice to hear it confirmed. Although I'd prefer him as a
      villian. But he always does a good job. John
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      Group: pota Message: 3199 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/28/2000
      Subject: Remake Trouble
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      I don't know if there's any truth to this but if there is, there's trouble on the Ape's Remake, big trouble!
       
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3200 From: Brian Dumont Date: 11/28/2000
      Subject: Re: Remake Trouble
      .html
      .html Anyone familiar with "ifilm.com" knows that they are the Weekly World News of the internet.  (It's all a joke folks)
      At least they lifted a photo of Michele Juhlin as Dr. Zira from the APEMANIA website, so they can't be all bad!

      Brian

      Alexander Ruiz wrote:

      I don't know if there's any truth to this but if there is, there's trouble on the Ape's Remake, big trouble!  http://www.ifilm.com/db/static_text/0,1699,8780,00.html" Alex


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      Group: pota Message: 3201 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 11/28/2000
      Subject: Re: Remake Trouble
      .html
      .html
      Well, that's good to hear, for a minute there I was a bit worried.
      A fan sent that link to me on the site, fan or trouble maker anyway.
      Yeah I did notice that picture of Zira.
      That was cool.
       
       
      Alex
       
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 6:46 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Remake Trouble

      Anyone familiar with "ifilm.com" knows that they are the Weekly World News of the internet.  (It's all a joke folks)
      At least they lifted a photo of Michele Juhlin as Dr. Zira from the APEMANIA website, so they can't be all bad!

      Brian

      Alexander Ruiz wrote:

      I don't know if there's any truth to this but if there is, there's trouble on the Ape's Remake, big trouble!  http://www.ifilm.com/db/static_text/0,1699,8780,00.html" Alex


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      Group: pota Message: 3202 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2000
      Subject: Re: Remake Trouble
      .html
      It must be a joke . . . Bob Barker? Why would they let him on the set?
      Maybe he wanted some tail -- maybe get a little piece of ape. "Hey the price
      is right, Bob! Come on down! " I can't get the image of the guards tazering
      Chuck and throwing a net over him as he screams . . . "It's a whorehouse! A
      WHOREHOUSE!"
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