"Kris Kristofferson is the latest addition to the cast of Tim
Burton's remake of Planet of the Apes. According to Variety columnist
Michael Fleming, Kristofferson is playing the part of a human warrior
who is leading a revolt against the apes. After he wraps his work on
Apes, the actor will move over to Blade 2."

I'm really bummed about the TV series level of human this film sounds
like it's gonna have.

> "Kris Kristofferson is the latest addition to the cast of Tim
> Burton's remake of Planet of the Apes. According to Variety columnist
> Michael Fleming, Kristofferson is playing the part of a human warrior
> who is leading a revolt against the apes. After he wraps his work on
> Apes, the actor will move over to Blade 2."
>
> I'm really bummed about the TV series level of human this film sounds
> like it's gonna have.

Well, talking humans was one of the things that turned me off to the T.V.
Series, but if the film has a good script, it may have a fighting chance.

Alex

On tonight's Jeopardy!, in Double Jeopardy!, the category
is "The Movies". 1st question, for $200, "This simian themed series
was released on DVD under the title "The Evolution". Last night's
winner chimes in with "What is The Planet of the Apes?" (DUH!!!)
Strangely enough, the next question, for $400, is a Video with
something along the lines of "I was the voice for the lead character
in this Tim Burton holiday classic." Some more simian symetry! John

TBS has those damn, dirty apes on again. On Thursday, December
7th, at 10:45pm, eastern time. Pearl Harbor Day. (Or Harbour for our
British Apes out there) "...the United States was suddenly and
deliberately attacked, by naval and air forces of the Simian
Empire..." Apes in Zero's!!!! It's a Madhouse, A MADHOUSE!!!!!

<< "What is The Planet of the Apes?" (DUH!!!)
Strangely enough, the next question, for $400, is a Video with
something along the lines of "I was the voice for the lead character
in this Tim Burton holiday classic." Some more simian symetry! John >>

I noticed that! Syncronicity!!!

In a message dated 11/30/00 10:15:20 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
byruiz@... writes:

<< Well, talking humans was one of the things that turned me off to the T.V.
Series, but if the film has a good script, it may have a fighting chance. >>

They talk!?! That sucks! Are they at least stupid? The humans on the TV
show just seemed down trodden. Which I thought was kind of lame. It was
like they could have busted lose, if they just had a little backbone.

> In a message dated 11/30/00 10:15:20 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
> byruiz@... writes:
>
> << Well, talking humans was one of the things that turned me off to the

T.V.

> Series, but if the film has a good script, it may have a fighting chance.
>>
>
> They talk!?! That sucks! Are they at least stupid? The humans on the TV
> show just seemed down trodden. Which I thought was kind of lame. It was
> like they could have busted lose, if they just had a little backbone.

Well, that's viewpoint as well.
If mankind is evil enough to blow themselves to kingdom come, how the hell
would Apes be able to rule overthem.
If man is smart enough to talk, he's smart enough to think.
And that's all it takes...

But then again if it's a good script, it will be a good movie.
So we'll just have to see, regardless I'll be there at the box office buying
my ticket you can count on that.

Alex

I'm with you there Alex, since the movie doesn't exist yet I can't knock it.
I'm hoping for a good script and good movie. I'm pretty open to a differant
take, although my first love is PLANET. I guess that openess comes from the
fact that movie PLANET is already differant from the book by Boulle. Each
seems like variations on a theme. I've heard mention of an airship in the
new movie. Cool. - Jeff



At 05:45 AM 12/01/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>> In a message dated 11/30/00 10:15:20 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
>> byruiz@... writes:
>>
>> << Well, talking humans was one of the things that turned me off to the
>T.V.
>> Series, but if the film has a good script, it may have a fighting chance.
>>>
>>
>> They talk!?! That sucks! Are they at least stupid? The humans on the TV
>> show just seemed down trodden. Which I thought was kind of lame. It was
>> like they could have busted lose, if they just had a little backbone.
>
>Well, that's viewpoint as well.
>If mankind is evil enough to blow themselves to kingdom come, how the hell
>would Apes be able to rule overthem.
>If man is smart enough to talk, he's smart enough to think.
>And that's all it takes...
>
>But then again if it's a good script, it will be a good movie.
>So we'll just have to see, regardless I'll be there at the box office buying
>my ticket you can count on that.
>
>Alex
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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The New York Daily News has a bit where it states that Kris
Kristofferson has been cast a the leader of the human rebellion.
Anyone hear about this? This is the first bit of casting that I
absolutely do not agree with. Mr. K. seems to be an adequate actor,
but I think the last time I saw him was in the miniseries "Amerika"
where he leads the rebellion against the Soviet ruled U.S. "How do
you kill an idea, General Ursus?" I got a bad feeling about this bit
of info. Later, John

I agree LTZ. Don't like this idea of talking humans. Like Brent said,
"What good did all that talking do?" (or words to that effect) John

> The New York Daily News has a bit where it states that Kris
> Kristofferson has been cast a the leader of the human rebellion.
> Anyone hear about this? This is the first bit of casting that I
> absolutely do not agree with. Mr. K. seems to be an adequate actor,
> but I think the last time I saw him was in the miniseries "Amerika"
> where he leads the rebellion against the Soviet ruled U.S. "How do
> you kill an idea, General Ursus?" I got a bad feeling about this bit
> of info. Later, John

I would have to agree with you there.
I never did like Kris Kristofferson very much, and as for the human
rebellion role, it only goes to show that these humans will be talking and
no doubt thinking very clearly. I only hope the script holds up.

And I agree with Jeff, best formula is mute humans and talking apes and when
talking apes and talking humans come together as in Beneath....
Caaaaa!! Boooom!! The revolution begins.
Having a revolution begin 2000 years after apes rule is a little too hard to
believe. But lets see what Burton and Zanuck have up their sleeves, you
never know.

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 3:01 PM

Subject: [pota] Remake Trouble

I don't know if there's any truth to this but if there is, there's trouble on the Ape's Remake, big trouble!

 

 http://www.ifilm.com/db/static_text/0,1699,8780,00.html"

 

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 3:01 PM

Subject: [pota] Remake Trouble

I don't know if there's any truth to this but if there is, there's trouble on the Ape's Remake, big trouble!

 

 http://www.ifilm.com/db/static_text/0,1699,8780,00.html"

 

Alex

<.html

In a message dated 12/1/00 11:26:53 PM !!!First Boot!!!, JSe3689836@...
writes:

<< "What good did all that talking do?" >>

If only Taylor had Brent's good sense, to observe before opening his mouth.

"What the hell would I have to say to a gorilla!"
~~~~~~Brent~~~~~

In a message dated 12/2/00 12:17:04 AM !!!First Boot!!!, byruiz@...
writes:

<< I would have to agree with you there.
I never did like Kris Kristofferson very much, and as for the human
rebellion role, it only goes to show that these humans will be talking and
no doubt thinking very clearly >>

Why not just get Willy Nelson?! If I were on this proj, I'd have Marky Mark
and the Princess and her loyal forces team up with caveman style humans. And
if they were totally mute maybe bring in the mutants, to teach them a trick
or two . . . like Proteus and Bob on Kablaam! ACTION LEAGUE NOW!!!!!

In a message dated 12/2/00 2:32:52 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Yeah, "Ape Has Killed Ape" is a great band. . . >>

Yeah, I've always wanted to do a Gwaar type band with everyone in Ape
make-up! Maybe, one guy with a mutant mask and a Nova girl go-go dancing!!!

In a message dated 12/2/00 3:03:49 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
williejoe@... writes:

<< oday they say the apes are more primitive than the original ("beastly", as
Cornelius would say) >>

I don't get that at all! If human women can talk, and the Princess is more
animalistic than anthropomorphic, then why the hell would Wahlberg ever want
to make out with her? I sure hope Burton and Zanuk nuk nuk know what they're
doing. Doesn't sound like it. This thing is getting weirder by the minute!

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     The report (from E! online) says the trailer could hit today, though I feel Fox would save it for their big Tom Hanks flick "Cast Away" (written by William (POTA) Broyles and set for Dec. 22).

 

Cool,

E! has a program called coming attractions. This program always shows the latest movie trailers.

 

So much for pressing time on a superbowl commercial, hell, it will be out before then. Most Excellent!

 

Thanks for the info Jeff, if I capture it on VHS I'll make a Media Clip of it for the site for all to check out. And for sure a music video.

 

I'll be unsubscribing from the e-group for a while, I'm switching to cable internet service tomorrow so this e-mail will be over and done with.

I'll return after the new year as I'll be finishing the classical section on the site and get started on the remake site shortly after.

 

Happy Holidays Ape-O-nauts!

I'll be Back.

 

Alex  

 

 

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> << oday they say the apes are more primitive than the original ("beastly",

as

> Cornelius would say) >>
>
> I don't get that at all! If human women can talk, and the Princess is

more

> animalistic than anthropomorphic, then why the hell would Wahlberg ever

want

> to make out with her? I sure hope Burton and Zanuk nuk nuk know what

they're

> doing. Doesn't sound like it. This thing is getting weirder by the

minute!

Weirder?
Tell me about it, Walhberg travels 2,000 years in the PAST not in the
future.
What did the apes do?
Kick the crap out of the Roman Empire??

Dude, this is weird.
Damn I love it!! A complete mystery!! According to E! News the ending is
going to be as shocking as the Statue of Liberty climax!

I have a funny feeling that not only the script is going to be great, but
this film is going to be KICK ASS!! Can't wait to see the trailer!

signing out.

Alex

All's I can say is I hope Estella has a great get-up! But it'll be tough
to top Nova. "Look at that, I taught you to smile..." John

They've only been shooting for a month! How could they put a trailer
together so fast? Did they shoot for the trailer first? I would think they
would wait until post prod to put something together. Damn! That was fast.

All's they'll need is a shot or two. Jazz it up with some cool sound.
Write it good. Don't worry, the machine'll crank something out. John

In a message dated 12/2/00 4:27:02 AM !!!First Boot!!!, byruiz@...
writes:

<< ell me about it, Walhberg travels 2,000 years in the PAST not in the
future.
What did the apes do?
Kick the crap out of the Roman Empire?? >>

Does everyone have this script but me? Where do I get mine?
2000 years in the past? Wait a minute! Why wasn't this story on The History
Channel? Must be one of History's Mysterys.

I just watched "Edward Scissorhands" on DVD. Though "Pee Wee's Big
Adventure" is still my favorite Burton flick, "E. S." is probably his best
(or "Ed Wood"). Anyway, I noticed a similarity to "Escape" in the storyline.
The Visitor is first shocking, then feted as unique, made a celebrity, used
("the voters love them" - "Escape"), then turned into a threat and forced to
flee for his life. At one point, referring to TV, the wife says, "Damn them"
and the husband says "Damn them all to hell". Many of the Ed Scissorhands
folks ( composer Danny Elfman, costumer Colleen Atwood, etc.) are currently
doing "Apes". - - - - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Ruiz" <byruiz@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] DEVILution


> > << oday they say the apes are more primitive than the original
("beastly",
> as
> > Cornelius would say) >>
> >
> > I don't get that at all! If human women can talk, and the Princess is
> more
> > animalistic than anthropomorphic, then why the hell would Wahlberg ever
> want
> > to make out with her? I sure hope Burton and Zanuk nuk nuk know what
> they're
> > doing. Doesn't sound like it. This thing is getting weirder by the
> minute!
>
> Weirder?
> Tell me about it, Walhberg travels 2,000 years in the PAST not in the
> future.
> What did the apes do?
> Kick the crap out of the Roman Empire??
>
> Dude, this is weird.
> Damn I love it!! A complete mystery!! According to E! News the ending is
> going to be as shocking as the Statue of Liberty climax!
>
> I have a funny feeling that not only the script is going to be great, but
> this film is going to be KICK ASS!! Can't wait to see the trailer!
>
> signing out.
>
> Alex
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

In a message dated 12/2/00 7:21:27 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
williejoe@... writes:

<< The Visitor is first shocking, then feted as unique, made a celebrity, used
("the voters love them" - "Escape"), >>

How unique could he be if Kris Krisstofersen and every other human on the
planet can talk too?
Hey! Wasn't that the name of Garbo's dad in one of her early films?

One thing I'll say for Burton, he always does kick-ass opening
credit sequences. The stone opening for "Batman", the slices of
letters for "Ed Scissor...", and of course the flying saucers
in "Mars Attacks". Can't wait to see what he does with dem Apes. John

A few days ago, I read something in page six of the Post saying
Estella Warren is going to be a Xena-like warrior in the new POTA.
Oy! I don't know if I like the sound of that. Keep Nova savage!!!!!

If Taylor had observed more before talking, what would have happened? How
would the ending have been then? He would live for years, caged up,
shagging Nova? I don't think he would've been very happy after long.

>
>In a message dated 12/1/00 11:26:53 PM !!!First Boot!!!, JSe3689836@...
>writes:
>
><< "What good did all that talking do?" >>
>
>If only Taylor had Brent's good sense, to observe before opening his mouth.
>
>"What the hell would I have to say to a gorilla!"
> ~~~~~~Brent~~~~~

_________________________

In a message dated 12/3/00 4:22:38 AM !!!First Boot!!!, smoothrt@...
writes:

<< He would live for years, caged up, shagging Nova? I don't think he
would've been very happy after long.>>

Better than being blown up by a great big bomb! I'd sure take that over
getting shot and blown up any day. And he could alyway have secret
conversations with Zira if he feels the need for a chat. Doesn't sound so
bad. I'd say his basic human needs were met.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/2000/04_Dec---An_Analysis_of_Leonar
d_Rosenmans_Beneath_the_Planet_of_the_Apes.asp

Alan
PS Make sure you put it all in as one line, some email software has no doubt
split the above URL over two lines.

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.html Hey Ken or Michael,
I forget which of you had asked, but here are the quotes I've received (from our freight contractor) for sending
the LAWGIVER COURTROOM BUST  to Australia:

• Brian,

Have a quote for you regarding the bust shipment to Australia.  These
numbers are from your location in Chatsworth to Brisbane or Sydney
exclusive of customs clearance and delivery charges.  I would need
address's in Australia to provide those costs.  I am still waiting for a
costs on crating should you want a wooden crate.  This would increase the
costs.  I think a well packed box would be fine for air freight.
        Chatsworth to Brisbane - $380.50
        Chatsworth to Sydney - $319.79

Any questions or additional costs, please let me know...(Cargo rep)
 

That's it.  I didn't want to leave you hanging.

Hey, Ken Taylor:  Did FOX Australia hold onto the 30th anniversary Chimp outfits we made for the tour?  Two of them and some gorillas turned up at an unclaimed freight auction here in LA back during the summer, so it has me wondering where all the others went.  We made a total of 8 (4 Male, 4 Female chimps) for them.  The Gorillas were made by another company for the tour.  I'm not sure how many of those were made.  I saw 4 at the LA screening.

Word to the wise: "Question authenticity of gorilla and chimp outfits popping up on eBay in the weeks to come."  Originals will have WESTERN COSTUME  labels in them.  Our replica chimp outfits will have Make-up & Monsters labels in them.  The Gorilla's (made for AMC/FOX's 30th anniversary tour) will have another company's label (from Florida or another southern US state), I don't have the name handy but I'll find out for anyone interested.

Anyhoo, Happy Holidays to all.

Brian
 

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Boy Terry,

I wish you had this offer any other moth besides December.
It has to be the month when I am he most skint.
Sometime, when I can, I'll order the cartoon series, and even join the fan
club.
But not this month, sorry.




T

hi all..im new here and i am looking for some good insignias of the
apes for a cool tattoo..if you have a good one please email me
it....perhaps the insignia of dr zaos, or the tribunal, taylors
patch, anything..im just gathering lots of ideas,,there has to have
been an insignia or logo of sorts that represented either chimp,
gorrrilla, oragatang,etc..thanks

kc

hi all..im new here and i am looking for some good insignias of the
apes for a cool tattoo..if you have a good one please email me
it....perhaps the insignia of dr zaos, or the tribunal, taylors
patch, anything..im just gathering lots of ideas,,there has to have
been an insignia or logo of sorts that represented either chimp,
gorrrilla, oragatang,etc..thanks

kc

Attachments :

Here's the Chimp Patch

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[Unable to display image]

Attachments :

Chimp Patch

I hope one of these works for you.
Or you might try Brian, he probably has every glyph ever made.

--- In pota@egroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> I hope one of these works for you.
> Or you might try Brian, he probably has every glyph ever made.

HE DID SEND ME SOME THINGS AS WELL..I HAVE A FEW TO CHOOSE
FROM..THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY AND INPUT.."NOW FIGHT LIKE APES!"

Hey Chimpaninnies - - -

The new "Makeup Artist" magazine has a blurb about Brian Penikas' quick
thinking when there was an injury on a set recently. He remember what he'd
learned about emergency makeup removal to allow medics to assist the
injured. Way to go, Brian!

The issue also mentions the fatal fall of Paul Trachtenburg while painting
an "Apes" remake set, and that photography started on Nov. 6 in Arizona
(Rick Baker and Co. weren't able to attend the "Grinch" premiere, which was
also Nov. 6, because of "Apes". Linda Harrison told me it actually started
filming on Nov. 7, but whatever. There's also a drawing of a Burtonesque
ape which might be a production drawing.

And for good measure, John Goodwin reviews John Landis' "Schlock",
featuring an early ape by Rick Baker and a one - time only cameo by John
Chambers.

Alas! Movieheadlines.com says that Chuck Heston will NOT be cameoing in
"Apes' because he sees it as a gimmick that would compromise the film.

- - -
- Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: "Apes List" <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 3:01 AM
Subject: [pota] Yet another Beneath CD article


>
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/2000/04_Dec---An_Analysis_of_Leonar
> d_Rosenmans_Beneath_the_Planet_of_the_Apes.asp
>
> Alan
> PS Make sure you put it all in as one line, some email software has no
doubt
> split the above URL over two lines.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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>From: LordTZer0@...

>Subject: Re: [pota] Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose . . .

>In a message dated 11/30/00 10:15:20 PM !!!First Boot!!!,

>byruiz@... writes:

>

><< Well, talking humans was one of the things that turned me off to the T.V.

> Series, but if the film has a good script, it may have a fighting chance. >>

>

>They talk!?! That sucks! Are they at least stupid? The humans on the TV

>show just seemed down trodden. Which I thought was kind of lame. It was

>like they could have busted lose, if they just had a little backbone.

<.html

So! Heston bails!
I wonder if it was because he felt he would just be a gimmick that would
detract from the film, or if he just saw another remake, like so many, that
was changed so much until it became unrecognizable, like Godzilla. I mean he
didn't seem to mind being a gimmick in On Any Given Sunday, where not only
was he on the television as Ben Hur on a scene, he also played the Football
commissioner.

Probably a little bit of both,

Let us not forget Heston's performance in Wayne's World 2. I was
thourghly amused by it, but c'mon, I never expected Heston to play a cameo
in a movie with Mike Myers. Just goes to show how money can change a
person's mind. But Heston sure was funny as a gas station attendant.... :)



Ross (Dr. Milo)

>
>
>So! Heston bails!
>I wonder if it was because he felt he would just be a gimmick that would
>detract from the film, or if he just saw another remake, like so many, that
>was changed so much until it became unrecognizable, like Godzilla. I mean
>he
>didn't seem to mind being a gimmick in On Any Given Sunday, where not only
>was he on the television as Ben Hur on a scene, he also played the Football
>commissioner.

_________________________

On Sat, 09 Dec 2000 13:15:10 -0600 "Ross D." <smoothrt@...>
writes:

> Probably a little bit of both,
>
> Let us not forget Heston's performance in Wayne's World 2. I
> was thourghly amused by it, but c'mon, I never expected Heston to play

a

> cameo in a movie with Mike Myers. Just goes to show how money can

change

> a person's mind. But Heston sure was funny as a gas station
> attendant.... :)

I always thought that was the funniest part of the entire movie,
especially the tear streaming down Wayne's face after Heston made his
little speech. A few of us in the theatre were laughing out loud, but a
lot of the "kids" (for lack of a better term) had no idea who Heston was.



Chris L.
____

.html Hey Ken or Michael,
I forget which of you had asked, but here are the quotes I've received (from our freight contractor) for sending
the LAWGIVER COURTROOM BUST  to Australia:

• Brian,
  Have a quote for you regarding the bust shipment to Australia.  These
  numbers are from your location in Chatsworth to Brisbane or Sydney
  exclusive of customs clearance and delivery charges.  I would need
  address's in Australia to provide those costs.  I am still waiting for a
  costs on crating should you want a wooden crate.  This would increase the
  costs.  I think a well packed box would be fine for air freight.
          Chatsworth to Brisbane - $380.50
          Chatsworth to Sydney - $319.79

  Any questions or additional costs, please let me know...(Cargo rep)
  

That's it.  I didn't want to leave you hanging.

Hey, Ken Taylor:  Did FOX Australia hold onto the 30th anniversary Chimp outfits we made for the tour?  Two of them and some gorillas turned up at an unclaimed freight auction here in LA back during the summer, so it has me wondering where all the others went.  We made a total of 8 (4 Male, 4 Female chimps) for them.  The Gorillas were made by another company for the tour.  I'm not sure how many of those were made.  I saw 4 at the LA screening.

Word to the wise: "Question authenticity of gorilla and chimp outfits popping up on eBay in the weeks to come."  Originals will have WESTERN COSTUME  labels in them.  Our replica chimp outfits will have Make-up & Monsters labels in them.  The Gorilla's (made for AMC/FOX's 30th anniversary tour) will have another company's label (from Florida or another southern US state), I don't have the name handy but I'll find out for anyone interested.

Anyhoo, Happy Holidays to all.

Brian
 

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.html Hey Brian,
The way the Aussie dollar is travelling at the moment, I'd have to sell off my first born to cover the shipping.
With regard to the promotional costumes in the auction, as far as I know the ones from Australia ( Zira, Cornelius and one AMC Gorilla )  had been returned to our L.A office. If there's more than one Gorilla, they could have come from Europe.
Best,
KEN

Brian Dumont wrote:

 Hey Ken or Michael,
I forget which of you had asked, but here are the quotes I've received (from our freight contractor) for sending
the LAWGIVER COURTROOM BUST  to Australia:

• Brian,

Have a quote for you regarding the bust shipment to Australia.  These
numbers are from your location in Chatsworth to Brisbane or Sydney
exclusive of customs clearance and delivery charges.  I would need
address's in Australia to provide those costs.  I am still waiting for a
costs on crating should you want a wooden crate.  This would increase the
costs.  I think a well packed box would be fine for air freight.
        Chatsworth to Brisbane - $380.50
        Chatsworth to Sydney - $319.79

Any questions or additional costs, please let me know...(Cargo rep)
 

That's it.  I didn't want to leave you hanging.

Hey, Ken Taylor:  Did FOX Australia hold onto the 30th anniversary Chimp outfits we made for the tour?  Two of them and some gorillas turned up at an unclaimed freight auction here in LA back during the summer, so it has me wondering where all the others went.  We made a total of 8 (4 Male, 4 Female chimps) for them.  The Gorillas were made by another company for the tour.  I'm not sure how many of those were made.  I saw 4 at the LA screening.

Word to the wise: "Question authenticity of gorilla and chimp outfits popping up on eBay in the weeks to come."  Originals will have WESTERN COSTUME  labels in them.  Our replica chimp outfits will have Make-up & Monsters labels in them.  The Gorilla's (made for AMC/FOX's 30th anniversary tour) will have another company's label (from Florida or another southern US state), I don't have the name handy but I'll find out for anyone interested.

Anyhoo, Happy Holidays to all.

Brian
 

 

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.html Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

 Hey Brian,
With regard to the promotional costumes in the auction, as far as I know the ones from Australia ( Zira, Cornelius and one AMC Gorilla )  had been returned to our L.A office. If there's more than one Gorilla, they could have come from Europe.
Best,
KEN

Thanx Ken.  The reason I brought that up was that some of the AMC/FOX ape costumes that went on tour in '98, wound up at an unclaimed freight auction outside Los Angeles last summer.  I believe the guy who scooped them up (for a song) is planning on selling them soon.  I just wanted fans to be fore-warned if they turn up on eBay or somewhere that they are replicas, not originals.  AND we definately DID NOT  do the gorilla outfits for that tour!  Yikes!

Apey Holidays!

Brian

 

Brian Dumont wrote:

 Hey Ken

Hey, Ken Taylor:  Did FOX Australia hold onto the 30th anniversary Chimp outfits we made for the tour?  Two of them and some gorillas turned up at an unclaimed freight auction here in LA back during the summer, so it has me wondering where all the others went.  We made a total of 8 (4 Male, 4 Female chimps) for them.  The Gorillas were made by another company for the tour.  I'm not sure how many of those were made.  I saw 4 at the LA screening.

Word to the wise: "Question authenticity of gorilla and chimp outfits popping up on eBay in the weeks to come."  Originals will have WESTERN COSTUME  labels in them.  Our replica chimp outfits will have Make-up & Monsters labels in them.  The Gorilla's (made for AMC/FOX's 30th anniversary tour) will have another company's label (from Florida or another southern US state), I don't have the name handy but I'll find out for anyone interested.

Anyhoo, Happy Holidays to all.

Brian
 

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In a message dated 12/9/00 7:19:36 PM !!!First Boot!!!, smoothrt@...
writes:

<< But Heston sure was funny as a gas station attendant.... :) >>

He sure has a sense of humor about himself.
I loved those Bud-lite radio ads.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Dumont

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] For the AUSSIES: Lawgiver bust shipping

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

 Hey Brian,
With regard to the promotional costumes in the auction, as far as I know the ones from Australia ( Zira, Cornelius and one AMC Gorilla )  had been returned to our L.A office. If there's more than one Gorilla, they could have come from Europe.
Best,
KEN

Thanx Ken.  The reason I brought that up was that some of the AMC/FOX ape costumes that went on tour in '98, wound up at an unclaimed freight auction outside Los Angeles last summer.  I believe the guy who scooped them up (for a song) is planning on selling them soon.  I just wanted fans to be fore-warned if they turn up on eBay or somewhere that they are replicas, not originals.  AND we definately DID NOT  do the gorilla outfits for that tour!  Yikes!

Apey Holidays!

Brian

 

Brian Dumont wrote:

 Hey Ken

Hey, Ken Taylor:  Did FOX Australia hold onto the 30th anniversary Chimp outfits we made for the tour?  Two of them and some gorillas turned up at an unclaimed freight auction here in LA back during the summer, so it has me wondering where all the others went.  We made a total of 8 (4 Male, 4 Female chimps) for them.  The Gorillas were made by another company for the tour.  I'm not sure how many of those were made.  I saw 4 at the LA screening.

Word to the wise: "Question authenticity of gorilla and chimp outfits popping up on eBay in the weeks to come."  Originals will have WESTERN COSTUME  labels in them.  Our replica chimp outfits will have Make-up & Monsters labels in them.  The Gorilla's (made for AMC/FOX's 30th anniversary tour) will have another company's label (from Florida or another southern US state), I don't have the name handy but I'll find out for anyone interested.

Anyhoo, Happy Holidays to all.

Brian
 

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In a message dated 12/10/00 1:20:08 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
williejoe@... writes:

<< ATV station run by chimpanzees? This is preposterous!" and storms off,
leaving the announcer to finish the ad. >>

Yes, I also remember the one where he says. . . "A television show with
talking Monkeys!? What could be more fun than that?"

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Jack Krueger wrote:

   Yes, Heston is willing to have fun with his persona, though it can also be lucrative. I taped a radio ad for "The Chimp Channel", a defunct TBS TV show that satirizes stuff using talking chimps (a la "Babe").

How about ala "Lancelot Link", or am I dating myself?
 
 Brian: What AMC gorillas are you referring to? The big-headed gorila ushers?                                                                             - - - Jeff Krueger
 

Yes, Jeff.  That's them!  The "Mardi-gra" gorillas, as they've come to be known!  Talk about preposterous!!!  Big plastic road-kill gorilla heads with X-Ray specs lenses for eyes?!!!  What were they thinking?  To quote the AMC reps when APEMANIA arrived at the scene, "Thank God you all are here!  Our guys SUCK!!!"
AMC's New York office is to blame for those monstrosities.  They awarded the contract for those gorillas to a company in Florida without checking with their LA offices first (who were dealing with us at the same time).  Because New York had already cut a check to the Florida costumers, they felt they were stuck with using them.  Result:  Big Goofy Mardi-gra Gorillas with X-ray eyes!  YIKES!!!

Oh well, "now they know better".

Brian
 
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Dumont

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2000 5:45 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] For the AUSSIES: Lawgiver bust shipping

 Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

 Hey Brian,
With regard to the promotional costumes in the auction, as far as I know the ones from Australia ( Zira, Cornelius and one AMC Gorilla )  had been returned to our L.A office. If there's more than one Gorilla, they could have come from Europe.
Best,
KEN

Thanx Ken.  The reason I brought that up was that some of the AMC/FOX ape costumes that went on tour in '98, wound up at an unclaimed freight auction outside Los Angeles last summer.  I believe the guy who scooped them up (for a song) is planning on selling them soon.  I just wanted fans to be fore-warned if they turn up on eBay or somewhere that they are replicas, not originals.  AND we definately DID NOT  do the gorilla outfits for that tour!  Yikes!

Apey Holidays!

Brian

 

Brian Dumont wrote:

 Hey Ken

Hey, Ken Taylor:  Did FOX Australia hold onto the 30th anniversary Chimp outfits we made for the tour?  Two of them and some gorillas turned up at an unclaimed freight auction here in LA back during the summer, so it has me wondering where all the others went.  We made a total of 8 (4 Male, 4 Female chimps) for them.  The Gorillas were made by another company for the tour.  I'm not sure how many of those were made.  I saw 4 at the LA screening.

Word to the wise: "Question authenticity of gorilla and chimp outfits popping up on eBay in the weeks to come."  Originals will have WESTERN COSTUME  labels in them.  Our replica chimp outfits will have Make-up & Monsters labels in them.  The Gorilla's (made for AMC/FOX's 30th anniversary tour) will have another company's label (from Florida or another southern US state), I don't have the name handy but I'll find out for anyone interested.

Anyhoo, Happy Holidays to all.

Brian
 

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Hi

I'm looking for the POTA treehouse and a couple of figures. Does
anyone have one for sale?? Please HELP

Thank you!!!

ebay's your best bet. good hunting!
pjh
-----Original Message-----
From: Debiortho@... <Debiortho@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 11:25 AM
Subject: [pota] POTA wanted

>Hi
>
>I'm looking for the POTA treehouse and a couple of figures. Does
>anyone have one for sale?? Please HELP
>
>Thank you!!!
>
>
>
>
>

watching the "complete" version of bftpota....so much better than the
edited version good old fox just released on dvd! scored a dubbed vhs
copy a while back...looks 8 out of 10.........pretty sure it's from
the japanese laserdisc. so...what do you all think: the bomb
references should or should not have been kept in? cheers!
pjh

First of three teaser posters . . .

http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/pictures/apes_ebay_sheetlarge.jp
g

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Hola everyone, this is Richard...I'm new here, lifelong Apes fan, pretty decent collection.

Working on a website now too, not ready yet though.  But great pictures, especially from when I met  Charlton Heston in April in LA. 

I know it's out that Heston is in the new movie but I also know that he's playing a Statesmen Ape in it.  Not sure if that was out there yet.

Later...

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THANKS FOR THE INFO RICK, HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON WHEN YOU GET YOUR
WEBSITE UP AND RUNNING. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE PLANET OF THE APES MOVIE.
KEEP IN TOUCH. THANKS CHARLES WILSON

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Becker [rick@...]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:14 PM
To: 'pota@egroups.com'
Subject: [pota] Hey all



Hola everyone, this is Richard...I'm new here, lifelong Apes fan, pretty
decent collection.

Working on a website now too, not ready yet though. But great pictures,
especially from when I met Charlton Heston in April in LA.

I know it's out that Heston is in the new movie but I also know that he's
playing a Statesmen Ape in it. Not sure if that was out there yet.

Later...

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THANKS FOR THE INFO RICK, HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON WHEN YOU GET YOUR
WEBSITE UP AND RUNNING. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE PLANET OF THE APES MOVIE.
KEEP IN TOUCH. THANKS CHARLES WILSON

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Becker [rick@...]
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:14 PM
To: 'pota@egroups.com'
Subject: [pota] Hey all



Hola everyone, this is Richard...I'm new here, lifelong Apes fan, pretty
decent collection.

Working on a website now too, not ready yet though. But great pictures,
especially from when I met Charlton Heston in April in LA.

I know it's out that Heston is in the new movie but I also know that he's
playing a Statesmen Ape in it. Not sure if that was out there yet.

Later...

-


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A long time ago, I tsuggested that ol' CH should do a cameo in the new film

Judging by the teaser poster, the faces are that much flatter than the originals. They sure need small noses those actors....


Hola everyone, this is Richard...I'm new here, lifelong Apes fan, pretty decent collection.

Working on a website now too, not ready yet though.  But great pictures, especially from when I met  Charlton Heston in April in LA.  

I know it's out that Heston is in the new movie but I also know that he's playing a Statesmen Ape in it.  Not sure if that was out there yet.

Later...

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----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Gould

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 3:40 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Hey all

A long time ago, I tsuggested that ol' CH should do a cameo in the new film

Judging by the teaser poster, the faces are that much flatter than the originals. They sure need small noses those actors....


Hola everyone, this is Richard...I'm new here, lifelong Apes fan, pretty decent collection.

Working on a website now too, not ready yet though.  But great pictures, especially from when I met  Charlton Heston in April in LA.  

I know it's out that Heston is in the new movie but I also know that he's playing a Statesmen Ape in it.  Not sure if that was out there yet.

Later...

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A long time ago, I tsuggested that ol' CH should do a cameo in the new film

Judging by the teaser poster, the faces are that much flatter than the originals. They sure need small noses those actors....


Hola everyone, this is Richard...I'm new here, lifelong Apes fan, pretty decent collection.

Working on a website now too, not ready yet though.  But great pictures, especially from when I met  Charlton Heston in April in LA.  

I know it's out that Heston is in the new movie but I also know that he's playing a Statesmen Ape in it.  Not sure if that was out there yet.

Later...

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Saw this on the Coming Attractions website (http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/apes.html").  Very interesting about the spaceship rumor:

"Greetings from the high desert of southern California! I don't know if this would qualify as a 'scoop', but I just spent most of Sunday afternoon wandering around the set of the Planet of the Apes (well, one of the sets). It is quite impressive. They have built (it's not quite complete) a giant crashed spaceship out of some kind of painted styrofoam. It looks incredible. Very Burtonesque. It has been built to appear partially buried into the earth (as if it had crashed nose-first at high speed). The rumor I heard from several people was that this was supposed to be the remains of the first ship that carried Taylor and crew. They have made the remains appear corroded so this might be more than a rumor. This area has been used for quite a few films (one of the Star Treks, for instance). It is in a fairly remote area of the Mojave Desert that is a National park. It's known for its eerie rock formations.

"I was told by a guard that they would not be shooting at this location until January. They have another site marked off about 1000 yards from the ship where they will be doing even more large-scale construction. I am from the area, and an open call went out about two weeks ago for extras. The only stipulation was 'no tatoos.'"

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On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:40:08 -0000 "Peter Harrison" <pasta@...>
writes:

> watching the "complete" version of btpota....so much better than the

edited version >good old fox just released on dvd! scored a dubbed vhs
copy a while back...looks 8 out >of 10.........pretty sure it's from the
Japanese laserdisc.

Yes it is. The Japanese LD (from the boxset) is the only released version
so far to contain the extra footage.

>so...what do you all think: the bomb references should or should not

have been kept >in? cheers!


It's been discussed here before, but it's worth repeating: those extra 10
minutes make BATTLE a much better movie. And not only the bomb footage.
Several other scenes are much more fleshed out as well. My third
favorite, after BENEATH and PLANET.


Chris L.


____

I agree wholeheartedly! This was one case, IMHO, that the additional footage
was not unnecessary in the least, like a lot of the padding I've seen in
other films which added NADA to the storyline. Say, that sounds like most
"new" movies I have seen (very few of) recently. :) Here's to APES 2001!
Cheers and Happy Holidays to everyone. God Bless!
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: lawford42@... <lawford42@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES ALPHA OMEGA VERSION

>On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:40:08 -0000 "Peter Harrison" <pasta@...>
>writes:
>
>> watching the "complete" version of btpota....so much better than the
>edited version >good old fox just released on dvd! scored a dubbed vhs
>copy a while back...looks 8 out >of 10.........pretty sure it's from the
>Japanese laserdisc.
>
>Yes it is. The Japanese LD (from the boxset) is the only released version
>so far to contain the extra footage.
>
>
>>so...what do you all think: the bomb references should or should not
>have been kept >in? cheers!
>
>
>It's been discussed here before, but it's worth repeating: those extra 10
>minutes make BATTLE a much better movie. And not only the bomb footage.
>Several other scenes are much more fleshed out as well. My third
>favorite, after BENEATH and PLANET.
>
>
>Chris L.
>
>
>____

I agree the full version of Battle is far better but I believe the
censorship was directly related to the rating the film got (ie PG instead of
M). They did not want to lose the appeal of Apes to the kids.

Anyone else have an opinion on the reason?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Harrison [pasta@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 19 December 2000 14:23
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES ALPHA OMEGA VERSION

I agree wholeheartedly! This was one case, IMHO, that the additional footage
was not unnecessary in the least, like a lot of the padding I've seen in
other films which added NADA to the storyline. Say, that sounds like most
"new" movies I have seen (very few of) recently. :) Here's to APES 2001!
Cheers and Happy Holidays to everyone. God Bless!
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: lawford42@... <lawford42@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES ALPHA OMEGA VERSION

>On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:40:08 -0000 "Peter Harrison" <pasta@...>
>writes:
>
>> watching the "complete" version of btpota....so much better than the
>edited version >good old fox just released on dvd! scored a dubbed vhs
>copy a while back...looks 8 out >of 10.........pretty sure it's from the
>Japanese laserdisc.
>
>Yes it is. The Japanese LD (from the boxset) is the only released version
>so far to contain the extra footage.
>
>
>>so...what do you all think: the bomb references should or should not
>have been kept >in? cheers!
>
>
>It's been discussed here before, but it's worth repeating: those extra 10
>minutes make BATTLE a much better movie. And not only the bomb footage.
>Several other scenes are much more fleshed out as well. My third
>favorite, after BENEATH and PLANET.
>
>
>Chris L.
>
>
>____

sounds about right, but even without the bomb, there's still a lot of
kid-unfriendly elements.........
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 9:56 PM
Subject: [pota] BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES ALPHA OMEGA VERSION

>I agree the full version of Battle is far better but I believe the
>censorship was directly related to the rating the film got (ie PG instead

of

>M). They did not want to lose the appeal of Apes to the kids.
>
>Anyone else have an opinion on the reason?
>
>Michael
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Pete Harrison [pasta@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, 19 December 2000 14:23
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [pota] BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES ALPHA OMEGA VERSION
>
>I agree wholeheartedly! This was one case, IMHO, that the additional

footage

>was not unnecessary in the least, like a lot of the padding I've seen in
>other films which added NADA to the storyline. Say, that sounds like most
>"new" movies I have seen (very few of) recently. :) Here's to APES 2001!
>Cheers and Happy Holidays to everyone. God Bless!
>Pete
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lawford42@... <lawford42@...>
>To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
>Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 7:56 PM
>Subject: Re: [pota] BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES ALPHA OMEGA VERSION
>
>
>>On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 05:40:08 -0000 "Peter Harrison" <pasta@...>
>>writes:
>>
>>> watching the "complete" version of btpota....so much better than the
>>edited version >good old fox just released on dvd! scored a dubbed vhs
>>copy a while back...looks 8 out >of 10.........pretty sure it's from the
>>Japanese laserdisc.
>>
>>Yes it is. The Japanese LD (from the boxset) is the only released version
>>so far to contain the extra footage.
>>
>>
>>>so...what do you all think: the bomb references should or should not
>>have been kept >in? cheers!
>>
>>
>>It's been discussed here before, but it's worth repeating: those extra 10
>>minutes make BATTLE a much better movie. And not only the bomb footage.
>>Several other scenes are much more fleshed out as well. My third
>>favorite, after BENEATH and PLANET.
>>
>>
>>Chris L.
>>
>>
>>____

Really thought the first glimpse of the new ape makeup would have
generated more of a response.

Anyway, here's what E online says about the premise - don't read if you
don't wanna know.


Apes begins in the near future when a gorilla genetically altered for
long-distance space travel is sent into the cosmos, where he falls into
a time portal that transports him 2,000 years into the past. Mark
Wahlberg plays an astronaut who somehow follows this craft into the same
black hole.

Wahlberg crash-lands on a familiar-looking planet and discovers that the
area where the simian touched down has been branded a holy land--the
Forbidden Zone--and that this ape could be the missing link. His
descendants revere him, which leads to the big question: Did humans
evolve from apes or vice versa?

The gorillas in the film also promise to be less like humans in face
masks and more beastly. They live in caves, walk with a Neanderthal
hunch and give off a more savage vibe.

Yes, Charlton Heston will appear in a role that remains undefined. And
yes, Wahlberg will have a hint of a relationship with Helena Bonham
Carter's ape princess. But--sorry, Mark fans--Wahlberg will not do his
work in a loincloth. He'll be decked out in a space suit for most of the
film.

the new makeup from the teaser poster looks great philip! guess most of the
board members are on holiday! :)
pete h
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Nobile <pjn1209@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 10:54 PM
Subject: [pota] More ape droppings

>Really thought the first glimpse of the new ape makeup would have
>generated more of a response.
>
>Anyway, here's what E online says about the premise - don't read if you
>don't wanna know.
>
>
>Apes begins in the near future when a gorilla genetically altered for
>long-distance space travel is sent into the cosmos, where he falls into
>a time portal that transports him 2,000 years into the past. Mark
>Wahlberg plays an astronaut who somehow follows this craft into the same
>black hole.
>
>Wahlberg crash-lands on a familiar-looking planet and discovers that the
>area where the simian touched down has been branded a holy land--the
>Forbidden Zone--and that this ape could be the missing link. His
>descendants revere him, which leads to the big question: Did humans
>evolve from apes or vice versa?
>
>The gorillas in the film also promise to be less like humans in face
>masks and more beastly. They live in caves, walk with a Neanderthal
>hunch and give off a more savage vibe.
>
>Yes, Charlton Heston will appear in a role that remains undefined. And
>yes, Wahlberg will have a hint of a relationship with Helena Bonham
>Carter's ape princess. But--sorry, Mark fans--Wahlberg will not do his
>work in a loincloth. He'll be decked out in a space suit for most of the
>film.
>
>
>
>

Hi All,
A while back I posted a note on how I'd seen a brief 4 minute "sizzle tape" to
promote the upcoming film to exhibitors and potential promotional partners.
More recently I have seen an extended version of this piece which includes a
number of make up shots including Duncan being prepared for his body cast and
then in full costume and make-up. It looked pretty impressive. Also included
where a few test shots of Carter in her chimp make-up which looked rather
similar to Zira yet with more human features. Another segment showed Giamatti
at "ape school" learning to walk and run like an ape.
Unfortunately I don't have a copy of this tape in my possession but I'm sure it
won't be long before it shows up on Ebay.
Best to all.
KEN

Pete Harrison wrote:

> the new makeup from the teaser poster looks great philip! guess most of the
> board members are on holiday! :)
> pete h
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Nobile <pjn1209@...>
> To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
> Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 10:54 PM
> Subject: [pota] More ape droppings
>
> >Really thought the first glimpse of the new ape makeup would have
> >generated more of a response.
> >
> >Anyway, here's what E online says about the premise - don't read if you
> >don't wanna know.
> >
> >
> >Apes begins in the near future when a gorilla genetically altered for
> >long-distance space travel is sent into the cosmos, where he falls into
> >a time portal that transports him 2,000 years into the past. Mark
> >Wahlberg plays an astronaut who somehow follows this craft into the same
> >black hole.
> >
> >Wahlberg crash-lands on a familiar-looking planet and discovers that the
> >area where the simian touched down has been branded a holy land--the
> >Forbidden Zone--and that this ape could be the missing link. His
> >descendants revere him, which leads to the big question: Did humans
> >evolve from apes or vice versa?
> >
> >The gorillas in the film also promise to be less like humans in face
> >masks and more beastly. They live in caves, walk with a Neanderthal
> >hunch and give off a more savage vibe.
> >
> >Yes, Charlton Heston will appear in a role that remains undefined. And
> >yes, Wahlberg will have a hint of a relationship with Helena Bonham
> >Carter's ape princess. But--sorry, Mark fans--Wahlberg will not do his
> >work in a loincloth. He'll be decked out in a space suit for most of the
> >film.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Keep up the good work!

Brian

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

Hi KenWell I sure hope it does appear on e-bay.There would be a sure e-bay buyer here. Hi all back again. Alex P.S. Ken your CD will be in the mail this week, sorry for the delay bud but I've been tied up with the site. Trying to get the Classic section done before the new year.Wish me luck! Oy!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Dumont

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:11 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Makeup tape

Hey Alex, we just viewed your tape yesterday!  Very cool!  Love LOVE LOVE! the Carol Burnett bit!

Keep up the good work!

Brian

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

Hi KenWell I sure hope it does appear on e-bay.There would be a sure e-bay buyer here. Hi all back again. Alex P.S. Ken your CD will be in the mail this week, sorry for the delay bud but I've been tied up with the site. Trying to get the Classic section done before the new year.Wish me luck! Oy!

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Really thought the first glimpse of the new ape make-up would have generated
more of a response.




I was too stunned to comment - but thanks heaps for sending to us (I'm
recovering from the shock now).
Michael

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Really thought the first glimpse of the new ape make-up would have generated
more of a response.

I was too stunned to comment - but thanks heaps for sending to us (I'm
recovering from the shock now).
Michael

 

Well I wasn't here but I too am surprised at the low feedback towards the poster.

I personaly think it totaly rocks!

I like the way Baker made it so realistic, totaly blew me away!

But on the other hand we're dealing with a multi academy award winner here. There will be no mistake that this will be the closest we will come to an ape/human type likeness. (makeup at it's best)

My hat off to 20th Century Fox, they chose the right man.

 

Alex

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Film Score Monthly are now selling copies of their Beneath CD signed by
Leonard Rosenman:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/2000/19_Dec---Site_Updates_and_Apes
_Autographs.asp

Alan

Lynne here...had to go back to Michigan to finish up, that's why I haven't
posted lately.

I just wanted to say that the pic of the ape makeup left me breathless. I
was at the library, now I'm at Kinko's to finish up my email. Yes, they
kicked me out again...I take the 'puter until closing time, and get them all
ticked 'cause they want to leave..SORRY!!! The pic has made me more anxious
than ever to see the movie!! And to think that I was going to delete that
message since it wasn't from someone I recognized!!
*Lynne*

>From: Philip Nobile <pjn1209@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] More ape droppings
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 00:51:33 -0500
>
>Really thought the first glimpse of the new ape makeup would have
>generated more of a response.
>
>Anyway, here's what E online says about the premise - don't read if you
>don't wanna know.
>
>
>Apes begins in the near future when a gorilla genetically altered for
>long-distance space travel is sent into the cosmos, where he falls into
>a time portal that transports him 2,000 years into the past. Mark
>Wahlberg plays an astronaut who somehow follows this craft into the same
>black hole.
>
>Wahlberg crash-lands on a familiar-looking planet and discovers that the
>area where the simian touched down has been branded a holy land--the
>Forbidden Zone--and that this ape could be the missing link. His
>descendants revere him, which leads to the big question: Did humans
>evolve from apes or vice versa?
>
>The gorillas in the film also promise to be less like humans in face
>masks and more beastly. They live in caves, walk with a Neanderthal
>hunch and give off a more savage vibe.
>
>Yes, Charlton Heston will appear in a role that remains undefined. And
>yes, Wahlberg will have a hint of a relationship with Helena Bonham
>Carter's ape princess. But--sorry, Mark fans--Wahlberg will not do his
>work in a loincloth. He'll be decked out in a space suit for most of the
>film.

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I didn't get the poster, I got the 'stolen pic', the side view of a gorilla.
I'll go back to the ebay poster link now that I'm not in the
library...sometimes they block some of my email!
*Lynne*

>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: <pota@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [pota] More ape droppings
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:07:41 -0500
>
> Really thought the first glimpse of the new ape make-up would have
>generated
> more of a response.
>
> I was too stunned to comment - but thanks heaps for sending to us (I'm
> recovering from the shock now).
> Michael
>
> Well I wasn't here but I too am surprised at the low feedback towards
>the poster.
> I personaly think it totaly rocks!
> I like the way Baker made it so realistic, totaly blew me away!
> But on the other hand we're dealing with a multi academy award winner
>here. There will be no mistake that this will be the closest we will come
>to an ape/human type likeness. (makeup at it's best)
> My hat off to 20th Century Fox, they chose the right man.
>
> Alex
><< teaser-small1.jpg >>

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.html Hi Alex,
Thanks, I look forward to receiving the CD.
Best,
KEN

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

  Hi KenWell I sure hope it does appear on e-bay.There would be a sure e-bay buyer here. Hi all back again. Alex P.S. Ken your CD will be in the mail this week, sorry for the delay bud but I've been tied up with the site. Trying to get the Classic section done before the new year.Wish me luck! Oy!

 

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>From: "Plexus" <plexus@...>
>Reply-To: apecollectibles@egroups.com
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:49:36 -0000
>
>APES COLLECTIBLES
>
>
>
>Dear Sirs
>
>
>Plexus Publishing are currently putting together a tribute to the Planet of
>the Apes phenomenon, provisionally entitled The Apes Chronicles � from the
>Pierre Boulle novel right through to the current remake/revision in the
>works and the various screenplay drafts that preceded it. (For more
>information please see attached blurb below.)
>
>
>We would like to extend an invitation for POTA collectors to provide
>photographs of their collections � particularly toys and masks � for
>inclusion in the pop-culture section of the book. Any which are accepted
>will receive a full credit and a complimentary copy of the book.
>
>
>I can be contacted by e-mail on paul@... / by telephone
>and fax on 0044 � 207 � 622 � 2440/1, and very much hope to hear from you.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Paul A. Woods.
>
>
>
>
>
>The Apes Chronicles
>
>
>In the year 2001, humankind is not ascending to the stars but is returning
>to the time of the Apes . . .
>
>Tim Burton�s Planet of the Apes is one of the most eagerly anticipated
>Hollywood blockbusters in years. The maverick director�s latest personal
>homage to the "monster culture" of his 1960s childhood, it is a project
>loaded with cultural potency.
>
>When the original Planet of the Apes made its screen debut in 1968, it
>created countless fascinated fans and confounded critics who expected a
>B-movie schlockfest. With a distinguished cast, the film convincingly
>created a world where evolution is inverted, where wise orangutans and
>fierce gorillas keep Man the savage beast in check � becoming a metaphor
>for its times that represented the fear of war and nuclear destruction,
>racial intolerance, civil unrest and ecological disaster.
>
>Evolving into a cult cycle of five films that ran through to the mid-1970s,
>the Apes series told an ingenious story of how space travel via a timewarp
>led to the end of (human) civilisation as we know it � and, ultimately, to
>the destruction of the earth itself. The Apes Chronicles traces the
>narrative of the Apes saga and features selected articles placing the
>original source novel, film and sequels in the tradition of apocalyptic
>cinema and science fiction. Illustrated throughout, it also describes the
>impact of the Apes upon mainstream popular culture, spawning TV and cartoon
>animation series, several comic books and various ephemera including toys
>and collectibles.
>
>The Apes Chronicles is the first book to examine the history of how the
>films� early fans, now grown up to be Hollywood players, revised and
>subverted the series� narrative themes throughout the 1990s. Early draft
>screenplays by different authors are analysed as to their influence on the
>final finished project � Planet of the Apes 2001, which promises to
>controversially re-imagine and re-visualise the original concept while
>retaining its humanistic vision.
>
>

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Could someone send me the site, I did not get a chance to see it.

>From: "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: <pota@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [pota] More ape droppings
>Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:07:41 -0500
>
> Really thought the first glimpse of the new ape make-up would have
>generated
> more of a response.
>
> I was too stunned to comment - but thanks heaps for sending to us (I'm
> recovering from the shock now).
> Michael
>
> Well I wasn't here but I too am surprised at the low feedback towards
>the poster.
> I personaly think it totaly rocks!
> I like the way Baker made it so realistic, totaly blew me away!
> But on the other hand we're dealing with a multi academy award winner
>here. There will be no mistake that this will be the closest we will come
>to an ape/human type likeness. (makeup at it's best)
> My hat off to 20th Century Fox, they chose the right man.
>
> Alex
><< teaser-small1.jpg >>

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To whoever that was , thanks for emailing out the copy of the Gorilla
poster. I'd seen it on Coming attractions and thought - oh well.That one was
really dark with some ssome strange lines that I took so be part of the
design. Then you sent this one. Very cool. It really shows the face, the
helmet shows some cultural design. Great Stuff ! Thanks.
My suspicion is that the slightly smaller muzzle will have more motion as
they've been saying, not that I have ANY complaints about the original
take. - Jeff

HELLO, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THE POSTER,IF SOMEONE COULD E-MAIL IT TO
ME. THANKS

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Doten [dotenj@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 2:46 PM
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] The Gorilla poster


To whoever that was , thanks for emailing out the copy of the Gorilla
poster. I'd seen it on Coming attractions and thought - oh well.That one was
really dark with some ssome strange lines that I took so be part of the
design. Then you sent this one. Very cool. It really shows the face, the
helmet shows some cultural design. Great Stuff ! Thanks.
My suspicion is that the slightly smaller muzzle will have more motion as
they've been saying, not that I have ANY complaints about the original
take. - Jeff

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----- Original Message -----

From: Wilson, Charles

To: 'pota@egroups.com'

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 3:07 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] The Gorilla poster

HELLO, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THE POSTER,IF SOMEONE COULD E-MAIL IT TO
ME. THANKS

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Doten [mailto:dotenj@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 2:46 PM
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] The Gorilla poster


To whoever that was , thanks for emailing out the copy of the Gorilla
poster. I'd seen it on Coming attractions and thought - oh well.That one was
really dark with some ssome strange lines that I took so be part of the
design.  Then you sent this one. Very cool. It really shows the face, the
helmet shows some cultural design. Great Stuff ! Thanks.
My suspicion is that the slightly smaller muzzle will have more motion as
they've  been saying, not that I have ANY complaints about the original
take.  -  Jeff
Jeff Doten's Illustration

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THAT LOOKS AWESOME

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 3:38 PM
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] The Gorilla poster


Gorilla Teaser Poster
I have a larger version of it at:
www.prophecysite.com/teaser1.jpg <http://www.prophecysite.com/teaser1.jpg>

Enjoy.

Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: Wilson, Charles <mailto:cwilson@...>
To: 'pota@egroups.com' <mailto:'pota@egroups.com'>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [pota] The Gorilla poster

HELLO, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THE POSTER,IF SOMEONE COULD E-MAIL IT TO
ME. THANKS

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Doten [ mailto:dotenj@... <mailto:dotenj@...>
]
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 2:46 PM
To: pota@egroups.com <mailto:pota@egroups.com>
Subject: [pota] The Gorilla poster


To whoever that was , thanks for emailing out the copy of the Gorilla
poster. I'd seen it on Coming attractions and thought - oh well.That one was
really dark with some ssome strange lines that I took so be part of the
design. Then you sent this one. Very cool. It really shows the face, the
helmet shows some cultural design. Great Stuff ! Thanks.
My suspicion is that the slightly smaller muzzle will have more motion as
they've been saying, not that I have ANY complaints about the original
take. - Jeff

Anyone interested in the TEASER posters can find them littered all over EBAY
right now. Most of the images in circulation right now have been lifted from
the eBay auctions.

brian

"Wilson, Charles" wrote:

> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, THAT LOOKS AWESOME
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 3:38 PM
> To: pota@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] The Gorilla poster
>
> Gorilla Teaser Poster
> I have a larger version of it at:
> www.prophecysite.com/teaser1.jpg <http://www.prophecysite.com/teaser1.jpg>
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Alex
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wilson, Charles <mailto:cwilson@...>
> To: 'pota@egroups.com' <mailto:'pota@egroups.com'>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 3:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [pota] The Gorilla poster
>
> HELLO, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE THE POSTER,IF SOMEONE COULD E-MAIL IT TO
> ME. THANKS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Doten [ mailto:dotenj@... <mailto:dotenj@...>
> ]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 2:46 PM
> To: pota@egroups.com <mailto:pota@egroups.com>
> Subject: [pota] The Gorilla poster
>
> To whoever that was , thanks for emailing out the copy of the Gorilla
> poster. I'd seen it on Coming attractions and thought - oh well.That one was
> really dark with some ssome strange lines that I took so be part of the
> design. Then you sent this one. Very cool. It really shows the face, the
> helmet shows some cultural design. Great Stuff ! Thanks.
> My suspicion is that the slightly smaller muzzle will have more motion as
> they've been saying, not that I have ANY complaints about the original
> take. - Jeff
>

Attachments :

That first image (other than tents )from the new movie got me all pumped up
so Ithought it was time to show of my stuff.

A while ago I'd heard that there may be Gibbons in the new movie. Much
intrigued I did up my own take on it, based on classic Apes costuming. Maybe
I'll do it as a costume some day. Of course there's also that stillsuit I
want to make...

- Jeff ( pass the bananas ) Doten

* My appologies to anyone that really wishes I didn't send an attachment *

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff Doten

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 5:30 PM

Subject: [pota] Planet of the GIBBON'S !

That first image (other than tents )from the new movie got me all pumped up
so Ithought it was time to show of my stuff.

A while ago I'd heard that there may be Gibbons in the new movie. Much
intrigued I did up my own take on it, based on classic Apes costuming. Maybe
I'll do it as a costume some day. Of course there's also that stillsuit I
want to make...

- Jeff ( pass the bananas ) Doten

* My appologies to anyone that really wishes I didn't send an attachment *

---

Jeff Doten's Illustration

three pics in the files section, I'm new to this group...hope they
aren't useless.

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----- Original Message -----

From: simonrexs@...

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 7:51 PM

Subject: [pota] I just posted three image files....hope they aren't repeats

three pics in the files section, I'm new to this group...hope they
aren't useless.

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Alexander Ruiz <prophecysite@...> wrote:

>I don't see them Simon,
>Upload them to prophecysite@...

They are in the files section at http://www.egroups.com/files/pota/

- it's the remake poster and the couple of pictures of the tents.

Alan

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alan Maxwell

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 7:44 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] I just posted three image files....hope they aren't repeats

Alexander Ruiz <prophecysite@...> wrote:
>I don't see them Simon,
>Upload them to prophecysite@...


They are in the files section at http://www.egroups.com/files/pota/

- it's the remake poster and the couple of pictures of the tents.

Alan

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Anyone interested in the TEASER posters can find them littered all over EBAY
right now.  Most of the images in circulation right now have been lifted from
the eBay auctions.

brian

I just got mine from an e-bay auction myself, I should be getting it in a couple of days. I don't even want to say how much I payed for it. (clearly ripped off) but hey, I had to have it! These are offical movie theatre posters, not the ones we'll  be getting at Walmart later on.

 

"Lifted", now that sounds a lot better than "stolen".

Well put Brian.

 

Sorry Lynne, but that did sound pretty low.

 

Alex

 

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 12:28 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA Poster Spoted!

Hey Gang,

Just got back from Disney World, I was at a local movie theatre at Downtown Disney and spoted the Gorilla Teaser Poster in the lobby of the theater, send chills up my spine! I have to admit I wanted to take it home with me, frame and all.

hehehe!!

 

I was hoping they had the other two but no chance, heck even the movie magazines aren't showing anything. Thery're really keeping this thing under wraps!

 

Merry Christmas and a happy 2001!

 

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Simonie and Rick

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 4:20 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] POTA Poster Spoted!

Sweet.  I also spotted a huge banner for the movie here in Washington, same gorilla teaser pic.  It's about 8 ft by 6ft.  Already getting in good with the theatre manager...

 

Rick

----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 12:28 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA Poster Spoted!

Hey Gang,

Just got back from Disney World, I was at a local movie theatre at Downtown Disney and spoted the Gorilla Teaser Poster in the lobby of the theater, send chills up my spine! I have to admit I wanted to take it home with me, frame and all.

hehehe!!

 

I was hoping they had the other two but no chance, heck even the movie magazines aren't showing anything. Thery're really keeping this thing under wraps!

 

Merry Christmas and a happy 2001!

 

Alex

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