I hear what you're saying, but you can't defend the 1977 Kong other than the
costume. Yuck to the rest.

I'm very interested in the new Apes flick, and like a lot of what I'm
seeing.I like the apelike noses and the differant colored hairs and all. I
think the half-apes will work better in context of the movie. I'm not nuts
about the costuming so far, but again, I have to see the movie.

If I was making a new apes film I'd add a lot of new things to the original
world. Maybe big mutated animals or something. I have to admit that I do
REALLY like the look of John Chamber's apes regardless of the new stuff from
Baker. They're just differant I quess. I'm hoping I like this one a whole
bunch too. - Jeff



At 12:57 PM 01/14/2001 +1100, you wrote:

>I'm just glad they didn't make the first Planet of the Apes movies in 1933
>like the first King Kong - the technology was good for the time but look at
>the difference in believability between it and the 1977 remake. Kong
>actually looks like an ape and does not go from being taller than the Empire
>State building to taking 5 minutes to climb the same building!
>
>If you think the original make up was so great then watch the original
>movies. It is inevitable that things are different in the 2001 version and
>I must say I believe that it is just Baker making the most of the best in
>make up technology. I think if Chambers was still active today and was
>coming up with original concepts for a new ape movie he would come up with
>something completely different and something more realistic as we are seeing
>now.
>
>I think the introduction of genetic engineering far better explains how
>primitive apes became upright and acquired the power of speech in about 30
>years.
>
>I think some of us are being a bit harsh and unrealistic. Stop living in
>the past and try the current millennium!
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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EARTHQUAKE!!!!

Rock and Roll, baby!

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<< Where are the additional pictures?
There seems to be the same amount to me!!
HELP!!!! >>

Yeah, you can't find them from the od AMPOTA link.
You have to go in through the front door. look under the latest...New more
apes.

<A HREF="http://americanmule.com/">American Mule Entertainment [Home]</A>
http://americanmule.com/

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From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:02 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] MORE APE PICTURES

<< Where are the additional pictures?
 There seems to be the same amount to me!!
 HELP!!!! >>

Yeah, you can't find them from the od AMPOTA link.
You have to go in through the front door. look under the latest...New more
apes.

 <A HREF="http://americanmule.com/">American Mule Entertainment [Home]</A>
http://americanmule.com/

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<LordTZer0@...> wrote:

>Yeah, you can't find them from the od AMPOTA link.
>You have to go in through the front door. look under the latest...New more
>apes.

Hmmm. Some okay pictures but, in my opinion, that orangutan looks a bit
daft.

Alan

In a message dated 1/15/01 12:17:55 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
alan@... writes:
<< Hmmm. Some okay pictures but, in my opinion, that orangutan looks a bit
daft.

Alan >>

I'm with you Alan. At least Ari has a chin now...but only orangs should have
eyebrows...hybrid or no. And she should lose the long hair and braids.

Missing the old look.
T

.html Hi Alex,
Greetings from sunny Australia ( read as : hot and sticky).
Just wanted to let you know that I received the CD.
Thanks so much. Haven't had a chance to listen to it but I can't wait.
In fact, I'll go listen to it right now.
Thanks again!
Best,
KEN

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

  HI KEN.Ken your CD is ready to ship I'm sorry for the delay once again but as you might have noticed the site has really kept me busy these last couple of weeks.Ken do me a favor and resend me your mailing address for confirmation, just resend it to my e-mail address and I'll have it shipped by priority mail. Again I'm sorry for the delay but running a site is not an easy thing to do as far as time is concerned. But no matter what, I always keep my word. Best, Alex 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken & Heather Taylor

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:04 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] CD KEN

Hi Alex,
Greetings from sunny Australia ( read as : hot and sticky).
Just wanted to let you know that I received the CD.
Thanks so much. Haven't had a chance to listen to it but I can't wait.
In fact, I'll go listen to it right now.
Thanks again!
Best,
KEN

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

  HI KEN.Ken your CD is ready to ship I'm sorry for the delay once again but as you might have noticed the site has really kept me busy these last couple of weeks.Ken do me a favor and resend me your mailing address for confirmation, just resend it to my e-mail address and I'll have it shipped by priority mail. Again I'm sorry for the delay but running a site is not an easy thing to do as far as time is concerned. But no matter what, I always keep my word. Best, Alex 

 

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Ooo-FA! Like what I see so far. Although it looks more Xena than
Nova. It seems the humans won't be savage animals like in the
original. But I'm sure Estella will wind up in some "tight spots"
battling dem Simians. Go Apes, John

This second batch of pics looks much better than teh first.

The chimps seem to be looking about right (except the girl, who looks
that way because of some sort of plot point, gotcha).

Costumes still look a little too Sid and Marty Kroft.

--- In pota@egroups.com, "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:

> Well no doubt what we're seeing here is an original concept with

a whole new original story. So if no one ends up liking this new
remake it will sure be hard to link this film to the originals.

Gus Van Sant's Psycho didn't tarnish Hitchcock's, but younger
audience members didn't even know it was a remake.

Another example:

Two years ago one of the producers of Night of the Living Dead,
fueled by the success of Star Wars' Special Edition rerelease, went
out and shot new scenes, and replaced 15 minutes from the original
film with this new footage. Teh result was an Ed Wood-like
embarrassment that did not even involve the films' original director,
George Romero. Everyone said "well, if it sucks, we'll always have
the original." Today, if you walk into a retail video store,
the "special edition" with new scenes cut into it is the ONLY version
most stores carry. Anyone who walks into that store and wants to see
the classic horror film they've heard about will end up with THAT
version.

Something to ponder.

Oh, and I don't think the makeups can ever look "too much like real
apes". That was the point, I thought.

--- In pota@egroups.com, "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:

> Oh man.
> If Estella or Linda end up wearing a get up like this in the film I

think I'm really going to have a woody watching this film.

It's Courntey Love!

Linda Harrison seemed like a very nice woman when I met her, but I
hope she can be clear-headed about the ffects of time before wearing
something like this.

--- In pota@egroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> I'm just glad they didn't make the first Planet of the Apes movies

in 1933

> like the first King Kong - the technology was good for the time but

look at

> the difference in believability between it and the 1977 remake.

Seen the remake lately . . .?

Also, Jack Pierce did an INCREDIBLE chimp makeup for the 1927
film "The Monkey Talks". It looked more like a real ape than
Chambers' makeups, but the end goal was different.

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>From: "Alexander Ruiz"

>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com

>To:

>Subject: [pota] Estella or Linda

>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 17:55:00 -0500

>

>Oh man.

>If Estella or Linda end up wearing a get up like this in the film I think I'm really going to have a woody watching this film. :o)

>

>Best,

>

>Alex

>

><< woody!.jpg >>

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>From: Brian Dumont

>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com

>To: pota@egroups.com

>Subject: [pota] YIKES!!! Shades of January 16th '94, and January 17th '95

>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:55:47 -0800

>

>For all of us here in the Northridge California area ...

>

>EARTHQUAKE!!!!

>

>Rock and Roll, baby!

>

>brian

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Hi Lynn,

Yeah, me and the apes survived it all.  Just some ruffled fur and nerves.

thanx for asking.

Brian
 

Lynne Miller wrote:

 

Brian,

Reminds me of an old, old song:  "Shake me up, baby.....twist and shout..."   But for real, are you all  alright out there?  I've been watching the news, and no damage has been reported.

                                                            *Lynne*
 >From: Brian Dumont 
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] YIKES!!! Shades of January 16th '94, and January 17th '95
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 18:55:47 -0800
>
>For all of us here in the Northridge California area ...
>
>EARTHQUAKE!!!!
>
>Rock and Roll, baby!
>
>brian

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Maybe this is the orang early on before much DNA adjusting.

I must say though - Zaius sure don't look like any orangutan I ever saw
(especially as a male...).

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell [alan@...]
Sent: Monday, 15 January 2001 10:40
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] MORE APE PICTURES

<LordTZer0@...> wrote:

>Yeah, you can't find them from the od AMPOTA link.
>You have to go in through the front door. look under the latest...New more
>apes.

Hmmm. Some okay pictures but, in my opinion, that orangutan looks a bit
daft.

Alan

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Yeah, me and the apes survived it all.  Just some ruffled fur and nerves.

thanx for asking.

Brian
 

I was going to ask you about that Brian but seeing how you put it on the message, my guess was that it really wasn't that bad. But on the other hand who ever heard of a good earthquake.

hehehe!!

Glad to hear your alright.

Best,

Alex

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Lynne Miller

To: POTA@...

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 2:50 PM

Subject: [pota] Primates....

I just wanted  to let the list know about a little place by me here in Florida...Alex, I'm not sure if you have heard of it.  It's called The Suncoast Primate Sanctuary and you can see it at www.chimpfarm.com

I have worked there on a volunteer basis whenever I can make the time.

                                                         *Lynne*

In a message dated 1/15/01 4:57:10 PM !!!First Boot!!!, pjn1209@...
writes:

<< Costumes still look a little too Sid and Marty Kroft. >>
Are they flying monkeys?
Shyuh, out of my butt!

In a message dated 1/15/01 5:06:16 PM !!!First Boot!!!, pjn1209@...
writes:

<< Oh, and I don't think the makeups can ever look "too much like real
apes". That was the point, I thought. >>

Oh, I see....They only evolve on the inside.
Thanks for splainin' that to me.

only Genetic Ape is the one who begins the line of Ape Royalty. 'The others
are just a case of a smart ape breeding a dumb ape.' So outside of of the
genetic line, the rest would look more ape than human, as is not the case
with the genetic ape line. Half Human/Half Ape.

Unless a smart ape breeds with a human, and then breeds with a dumb ape, and
the offspring, one being 3/4 ape and the other being 3/4 human breed,
creating a
6 & 7/8ths ape, which are the apes from the old films... or Ursus' hat size.

<< But no matter what may unfold, this film is going to make perfect sence.
If not I don't think Zanuck would be walking around with a smile on his face
24 hours a day, as I have heard. >>

That could just be nerves, anyway...
Skelletor always looks like that.

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Unless a smart ape breeds with a human, and then breeds with a dumb ape, and
the offspring, one being 3/4 ape and the other being 3/4 human breed,
creating a
6 & 7/8ths ape, which are the apes from the old films... or Ursus' hat size.

 

 

hehehehe!!!

Boy you really are out there!

You must also believe that PLANET OF THE APES belongs too you?

PLANET OF THE APES belongs to 20th Century Fox buddy.

So lean too deal with it.

 

You'll sleep better.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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What convention are you going to? Anything Ape-themed? There's a con in
Memphis, TN this august that looks like it's going to have a POTA slant. Go
Apes, John

In a message dated 1/15/01 11:36:02 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< So lean too deal with it.

You'll sleep better. >>

I have a leaning disability...
And insomnia! And the deed to the planet...including mineral rights, just in
case.
If there's no more oil, I'm sure to find plenty of uranium, and a dash of
cobalt.

Justin Case,
On the case!!!

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I have a leaning disability...
And insomnia!  And the deed to the planet...including mineral rights, just in
case.
If there's no more oil, I'm sure to find plenty of uranium, and a dash of
cobalt.

Justin Case,
On the case!!!

 

I'm glad to hear it.

Just as long as you know it.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Anyone been there lately? Here's a cast list they've put together -
some interesting character names I'd not heard mentioned before-



Cast (in credits order)
Mark Wahlberg .... Jordan
Kris Kristofferson .... Leo
rest of cast listed alphabetically
Erick Avari .... Tival
Helena Bonham Carter .... Ari
Emmy Collins .... Gorilla/Human Outcast
Michael Clarke Duncan .... Krull
Luke Eberl
Paul Giamatti .... Limbo
Spike Jonze
Evan Dexter Parke
Tim Roth .... Cornelius
Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa
Estella Warren .... Nova

Is Heston going to be in the Planet of the Apes remake? Yes, he is...and
contrary to his own comments in the past, he's wearing ape make-up.

While talking to Variety columnist Army Archerd, producer Richard Zanuck
revealed how he got Heston on board the project. During a meeting for
breakfast at the Beverly Hills Hotel, Zanuck managed to get Heston to
come in to do a four-hour make-up test. Eventually, the actor agreed to
come on board the Tim Burton directed project, but for only one day of
shooting.

Beyond Heston's involvement, Archerd goes on to describe the
production's set on Stage 30 at Sony Studios. The columnist gives his
assessment of the apes' culture, writing, "The stage is transformed by
Rick Heinrichs into the apes' city of Derkein; it is multi-terraced,
with ape homes carved into the sides of a mountain whose many caverns
provide the humans with temporary escape from their ape captors."

Though the film will be short on digital effects, there will still be
some. Archerd notes that there is a "large blue screen at one end of the
massive set, giving the opportunity to expand the 'city' to even greater
depths."

In addition, when production moves to the desert next week, 300 apes
will be on hand. That group will also provide the digital basis for many
more in the film's crowd scenes.

Archerd also talks of Rick Baker's new Apes make-up, which he declares
feels like real flesh upon touching Helena Bonham Carter. He also
reports that the actress really loves playing the role of the chimp
named Ari, even though she has to be at the studio at 1 a.m. to start
putting on her make-up.

Regarding set security, Archerd reports, "Stage 30 is separated from the
rest of the studio by large black curtains drawn across the surrounding
streets to prevent prying eyes of mere human actors working on other
stages. Trams with blackened windows circle back and forth to the stage
from a staging area on Washington Blvd. for makeup, hair, costumes and
food. But there is a crafts services table outside the stage and it was
funny watching the 'apes' munching on (real) bananas."

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> Oh man.
> If Estella or Linda end up wearing a get up like this in the film I
think I'm really going to have a woody watching this film.

It's Courntey Love!

Linda Harrison seemed like a very nice woman when I met her, but I
hope she can be clear-headed about the ffects of time before wearing
something like this.

 

 

Well, she still looks fine too me.

woooody!

 

Best,

 

Alex

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It amazes me that we haven't see a script for this one yet. Every other
film script has turned up on the shelves of film stores or at least on eBay.
Now with this version...nothing. Security must be very tight (read extreme)
on the set. I would think that someone would lose a copy of it, accidentally
on purpose. Maybe after shooting is wrapped up a copy or two will turn up
some where, or we'll hear a leak and we can have a better idea of the
storyline. Then again hearing the story and seeing it are two different
animals.

Expect nothing...you'll never be disappointed!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Phil

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:54 AM

Subject: [pota] Re: MORE APE PICTURES

--- In pota@egroups.com, "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:

>   Well no doubt what we're seeing here is an original concept with
a whole new original story. So if no one ends up liking this new
remake it will sure be hard to link this film to the originals.

Gus Van Sant's Psycho didn't tarnish Hitchcock's, but younger
audience members didn't even know it was a remake.

Another example:

Two years ago one of the producers of Night of the Living Dead,
fueled by the success of Star Wars' Special Edition rerelease, went
out and shot new scenes, and replaced 15 minutes from the original
film with this new footage.  Teh result was an Ed Wood-like
embarrassment that did not even involve the films' original director,
George Romero.  Everyone said "well, if it sucks, we'll always have
the original."  Today, if you walk into a retail video store,
the "special edition" with new scenes cut into it is the ONLY version
most stores carry.  Anyone who walks into that store and wants to see
the classic horror film they've heard about will end up with THAT
version.

Something to ponder.

Oh, and I don't think the makeups can ever look "too much like real
apes".  That was the point, I thought.

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Wow! And he said he'd never go under the make-up.
I wonder how they dealt with the neb on Ol' Eagle Beak?

The only way to decide whether or not you like the new film is.... TO
ACTUALLY SEE IT A TIME OR TWO! Patience, everyone, it's coming. By the way,
why is it that no one talks about the "classic" series on this board
anymore? Mandemus just called, and his only source of entertainment while
guarding the Ape City armory is his new computer! He loves this board, but
is feeling neglected! Please help cheer an old orangutan up!
Cheers!
Pete H, the Forbidden Zone, Arizona
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz <prophecysite@...>
To: pota@egroups.com <pota@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: MORE APE PICTURES


Nothing to Ponder Phil.
This is not added scenes to the same story or movie as in living dead or
Star Wars.
This is a completely different story.

Dude please, you are clearly trying to reach for something that isn't there.

So with due respect "That was one BAD example to make".

Best,

Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: Phil
To: pota@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:54 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: MORE APE PICTURES


--- In pota@egroups.com, "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:

> Well no doubt what we're seeing here is an original concept with
a whole new original story. So if no one ends up liking this new
remake it will sure be hard to link this film to the originals

I still don't get that...
If it's not a "remake" then why have the same names?
There's no "Zira" no "Taylor". Then why have even a Cornelius and a Nova?
Why Call it Planet of the Apes for that matter? And I though Tim Roth was the
Zaius character. Since when is he Cornelius? I though Johnny Depp was doing
a cameo!

Although the ethics of it may be debatable, why would Fox call it anything
BUT Planet of the Apes?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2001 5:25
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] imdb


I still don't get that...
If it's not a "remake" then why have the same names?
There's no "Zira" no "Taylor". Then why have even a Cornelius and a Nova?
Why Call it Planet of the Apes for that matter? And I though Tim Roth was
the
Zaius character. Since when is he Cornelius? I though Johnny Depp was
doing
a cameo!

<LordTZer0@...> wrote:

>I still don't get that...
>If it's not a "remake" then why have the same names?
>There's no "Zira" no "Taylor". Then why have even a Cornelius and a Nova?
>Why Call it Planet of the Apes for that matter? And I though Tim Roth was

the

>Zaius character. Since when is he Cornelius? I though Johnny Depp was

doing

>a cameo!

The first rule of finding out about any movie is "don't trust the IMDB".

Alan

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The first rule of finding out about any movie is "don't trust the IMDB".

Alan

 

 

I would have to agree, as the storyline I put together from rumors on the web.

But this storyline does seem to be moving in this direction as the costumes do show a PLANET OF THE APES of the past. ROMAN EPIC type. With no guns, all swords. And if it is a POTA of the past, a genetic ape from the present can be the only thing to strat this domino effect. Also confirming these rumors.

 

Damn, gives me goose bumps!

 

Best,

 

Alex

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From: Alan Maxwell

To: Apes List

Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 3:28 PM

Subject: [pota] Ape Music

Hi. I found this URL today:

http://geocities.com/two_girls_353/

Someone's made a piece of techno music using Planet of the Apes samples.
It's downloadable in MP3 format.

Alan

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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken & Heather Taylor

To: pota@...

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 5:29 AM

Subject: [pota] POLAR LIGHTS APES KITS

Polar Lights have announced their APES model kit line up for this year (
as launched at Toy Fair).
They will be:
CORNELIUS
DR ZAIUS
DR ZIRA
GENERAL URSUS
As reported previously, these will be re-casts of the Addar kits and
will be a Toys R Us exclusive.
visit www.playingmantis.com for more  ( but not much more) details.

Also Medicon Toy co have updated their site to include the four latest
figures in their figure line.

Best,
KEN



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----- Original Message -----

From: Philip Nobile

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 7:44 AM

Subject: [pota] New Ape figures - direct links

So you don't have to poke around the site in Japanese . . .

Zaius:
http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo10b.jpg

Urko, not Ursus:
http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo11b.jpg

And another I can skip:

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo12b.jpg

I know others will have problems with it, but damn, this one looks
great-

http://www.medicomtoy.co.jp/new/kongetsu/2000_feb/big/photo13b.jpg

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From: philip.nobile@...

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 9:05 AM

Subject: [pota] Apes Producer set

Zanuck Back With 'Apes'

Richard Zanuck is returning as producer of the remake of one of the films
he pushed through while president of Fox in the '60s: Planet of the Apes.
Zanuck's signing for the important producing position serves to show how
serious Fox is about getting the Apes production up and moving quickly. In
 addition, Zanuck's participation might calm any doubts fans of the old series
have about a contemporary take on the classic film series.

While talking to Variety, current 20th Century Fox Film Group prez, Tom Rothman,

says, "This is a big film with a very very significant director. (Zanuck) is a
pro's pro
and there's the karmic unity of the fact he was here when the series started.
There's
a certain poetry to that."

Zanuck tells the Hollywood Reporter, "For me to come back into this, I feel like
 I'm
in a time warp. I initially put this into production when I was at Fox 30-some
years
ago. The idea was so intriguing to me then, and I think we can do better now
because
technology will allow us to improve the look and articulation of the apes."

Regarding working with Tim Burton, the producer adds, "Tim Burton is somebody
who
I admire and have tried to get for a lot of my previous projects, but was never
was able
to do it." Zanuck is said to have already met twice with Burton and the project
and will
 do so again after the Academy Awards broadcast, something else he produces.

Now that the project has both a producer and a director, the previously
announced Tim
Burton, pre-production on the project should start very quickly as well as any
necessary
re-writes of Bill Broyles script.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Philip Nobile

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 9:25 AM

Subject: [pota] DVDs

Apes Saga Coming to DVD!

Here's a little tidbit from dvdfile.com (thanks to our tipster for
letting us know):

Now, on to the goodies. First is probably the biggest Fox request as of
late, the PLANET OF THE APES box set. Indeed, this six-disc set
is THX-certified and all-anamorphic (yeah, baby), will arrive around 4Q
2000 and features all the films plus an extra "sixth disc" containing
the terrific making-of documentary seen on the Fox Channel, amongst
other places. However, never fear, the sixth disc will be included in
the
box set and you won't have to mail away for it! There may be some other
goodies on the discs, but in any event it looks pretty dang cool. No
price is yet available.

Click here to read the full story
http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/events/studio_day/htf.htm.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Krueger

To: Terry Hoknes

Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 5:31 PM

Subject: "APESFAN" hits the stores

Hu said I get to the end of Ape-ril; if I don't deliver (I will!) do what you may. I was in my local Tower video/book store and right before my eyes was Issue #2 of "Apesfan"! The one with the Roddy tribute. They told me they were working on a deal with Tower and I guess it went through. Yet another triumph for "Apes". Toodle-ooo!- - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----

From: Terry Hoknes

To: Jack Krueger

Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 4:17 PM

Subject: Re: Not For the Web!

very cool news !!!!!!!!!!!

You're one lucky guy!!!

 

 

PS I hope you have sent me something!!

 

 

Hi Terry. . . .  Don't put this on the web, this is just between us. This weekend Natalie and I went to a convention to see Charlton Heston and Linda Harrison. Both were at a "Planet of the Apes" table and since Natalie knows them we all hung out together. The line of autograph seekers was long for Chuck (he was donating the money to charity) so he didn't have alot of time to chat. He stayed ninety minutes longer than scheduled to get as many people as possible. He gave Natalie  a copy of his $35 book "Charlton Heston's Hollywood" and did some autographs for me. Nice guy, though it's obvious he's weak from his recent health problems.

 

 But the more interesting stuff concerns Linda, who lives in Maryland but flew out for the convention on her own dime. As you know, her ex-husband Richard Zanuck is producer of the new "Apes" movie . But her sons Harrison and Dean are helping their dad and she stayed with Harrison during her visit. Harrison was at the convention, checking out "Apes"' popularity. I met him, he played Goldie Hawn's baby in Spielberg's first movie "Sugarland Express". Afterwards, he took his dad to the airport and got to tell him about all the fans (Linda related to me later).  Anyway, I had lunch with Linda and she brought up maybe I should keep tabs on the production for the fan club through her sons and gave me their phone number (I told her there are official updates on movies like "Star Wars" and "Pearl Harbor" to cut down on the rumors). So I now have a nice contact to the movie for us. Linda also gave me her personal e-mail address. Nifty, huh?

 

  She also told me some stuff she learned while staying with her son. The script is a big secret and they wouldn't even tell her about it (Harrison has read the script 6 times), but mentioned it begins and ends with a narrator character. They want to cast Heston as this character. Wouldn't it be neat if this is the main character as an old man? That would be a way for Heston to still play the main character (it's also genius for the first voice the audience hears to be Heston's). Another shocker she told me isthey are considering going with Rick Baker instead of Stan Winston for FX (my friend Scott Essman knows Baker, however, and says he has closed his company for awhile; I dunno). Fox is apparently not happy with Winston's ego. Actually, Fox is keeping a tight reign. Linda told me Zanuck got a terrible deal despite being the producer of hits like "Jaws", "Cocoon" and "Deep Impact". Obviously Zanuck 's involvement is about more than money.

 

  Linda also told me something I'll put in "Chronicles": she was eating in the Fox commissary in the days before the news broke about Burton, and Fox president Bill Mechanic was there with Burton. Mechanic went over to her, shook her hand and said they are finally going to make POTA and Burton's going to direct. She said his face was really animated and from the way he talked she believes he's a big "Apes" fan- - - this is the head of Fox! Linda also believes her being there is what gave them the idea of hiring Zanuck and she believes it was Burton's idea (another fan?) Linda says Burton was hired because Fox's research showed he was the director most compatible with "Ape" fans' likes and dislikes. We shall see.

 

  In any case, I guess I have my foot in the door. I met Linda before but I got to know her a lot better now thanks to her friendship with Natalie. Well, that's my adventure this weekend. Like I said, don't put this on the web, I don't want Linda to get in trouble for blabbing. We have to take this slowly. - - - Jeff

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Yes, I have the dvd set. That's how I first got into the apes movies and it
appears I got in at the right time with the new movie on its way. I still
haven't watched all the tv episodes yet but I saw the first one and loved it.

Loc

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POTA game online!   animation with music

 http://members.tripod.co.uk/alicetime/Ape/

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--- In pota@egroups.com, "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:

> Nothing to Ponder Phil.
> This is not added scenes to the same story or movie as in living

dead or Star Wars.

> This is a completely different story.

With the same name.

The (admittedly muddy) point was that if this movie SUCKS, an entire
generation will think "movie that Sucked" when they think Planet of
the Apes.

I know the remake sucking is a scientific impossibility to you, but
it exists nonetheless.

Nothin' but love,

Phil

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----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Rosenthal

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 2:37 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Futurama

>Did anyone catch the episode of Fox's "Futurama" a few weeks back when
>the gang is in the underground city of mutants searching for their pet
>and while being given a tour of the city, they're shown a certain
>Cathedral with an atomic bomb inside it?
>
>Interestingly enough, the shot of the Altar was an exact replica of the
>set from Beneath- the only difference was that the lettering on the bomb
>was on the right fin (as you face it) as opposed to the left, and the
>lettering was reversed (Omega Alpha). Aside from one of Dennis Miller's
>stand-up HBO specials, this is the only time I've seen "Beneath" used as
>a pop culture reference. Long overdue if you ask me.


Actually, there have been four or five Apes references in the first season
of "Futurama." The first episode had them going underground into a
"Beneath" like world, at least for a moment . . . Personally, I think it's
one of the best shows on TV. Too bad that Fox has it on at 7pm here in
NYC.....

check it out, ape fans!






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--- In pota@egroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <comicsape@d...> wrote:
> Hi Terry. . . . Don't put this on the web, this is just
between us. This weekend Natalie and I went to a convention to see
Charlton Heston and Linda Harrison. Both were at a "Planet of the
Apes" table and since Natalie knows them we all hung out together.
The line of autograph seekers was long for Chuck (he was donating the
money to charity) so he didn't have alot of time to chat. He stayed
ninety minutes longer than scheduled to get as many people as
possible. He gave Natalie a copy of his $35 book "Charlton Heston's
Hollywood" and did some autographs for me. Nice guy, though it's
obvious he's weak from his recent health problems.
>
> But the more interesting stuff concerns Linda, who lives in
Maryland but flew out for the convention on her own dime. As you
know, her ex-husband Richard Zanuck is producer of the new "Apes"
movie . But her sons Harrison and Dean are helping their dad and she
stayed with Harrison during her visit. Harrison was at the
convention, checking out "Apes"' popularity. I met him, he played
Goldie Hawn's baby in Spielberg's first movie "Sugarland Express".
Afterwards, he took his dad to the airport and got to tell him about
all the fans (Linda related to me later). Anyway, I had lunch with
Linda and she brought up maybe I should keep tabs on the production
for the fan club through her sons and gave me their phone number (I
told her there are official updates on movies like "Star Wars"
and "Pearl Harbor" to cut down on the rumors). So I now have a nice
contact to the movie for us. Linda also gave me her personal e-mail
address. Nifty, huh?
>
> She also told me some stuff she learned while staying with
her son. The script is a big secret and they wouldn't even tell her
about it (Harrison has read the script 6 times), but mentioned it
begins and ends with a narrator character. They want to cast Heston
as this character. Wouldn't it be neat if this is the main character
as an old man? That would be a way for Heston to still play the main
character (it's also genius for the first voice the audience hears to
be Heston's). Another shocker she told me isthey are considering
going with Rick Baker instead of Stan Winston for FX (my friend Scott
Essman knows Baker, however, and says he has closed his company for
awhile; I dunno). Fox is apparently not happy with Winston's ego.
Actually, Fox is keeping a tight reign. Linda told me Zanuck got a
terrible deal despite being the producer of hits
like "Jaws", "Cocoon" and "Deep Impact". Obviously Zanuck 's
involvement is about more than money.
>
> Linda also told me something I'll put in "Chronicles": she
was eating in the Fox commissary in the days before the news broke
about Burton, and Fox president Bill Mechanic was there with Burton.
Mechanic went over to her, shook her hand and said they are finally
going to make POTA and Burton's going to direct. She said his face
was really animated and from the way he talked she believes he's a
big "Apes" fan- - - this is the head of Fox! Linda also believes her
being there is what gave them the idea of hiring Zanuck and she
believes it was Burton's idea (another fan?) Linda says Burton was
hired because Fox's research showed he was the director most
compatible with "Ape" fans' likes and dislikes. We shall see.
>
> In any case, I guess I have my foot in the door. I met
Linda before but I got to know her a lot better now thanks to her
friendship with Natalie. Well, that's my adventure this weekend. Like
I said, don't put this on the web, I don't want Linda to get in
trouble for blabbing. We have to take this slowly. - - - Jeff

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Dumont

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 11:04 AM

Subject: [pota] REMAKE UPDATE

In case everyone hasn't heard the latest, Tim Burton has brought the
Academy Award winning costume design team and production designers from
Sleepy Hollow to head up their respected departments on the new Planet of
the Apes film.

For the longest time though, the really big question has been who would be
responsible for picking up the make-up design where John Chambers left off;
Stan Winston or Rick Baker.  Hold onto your hats folks, cuz Rick (King Kong
'76, Greystoke, Incredible Shrinking Woman, Gorillas in the Mist, Mighty
Joe Young) Baker and his team have got the gig!!!  And we all know how
convincing Mr. Baker's apes have been throughout the years.

Good luck to everyone involved on the remake project!  We anxiously await!

Brian Penikas
Apemania.com


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----- Original Message -----

From: Alan Maxwell

To: Apes List

Sent: Monday, April 17, 2000 12:44 PM

Subject: [pota] Alfredo Alcala

I have just read on a newsgroup (haven't managed to confirm it yet) that
comic artist Alfredo Alcala passed away on the 8th April, aged 74, of
cancer. He was one of the many Filipino artists who made such a great impact
on the American comics of the 70s (along with Nestor Redondo, Alex Nino,
Ernie Chan, Tony DeZuniga, Rudy Nebres and many more). Although he worked on
such well known characters as Conan the Barbarian and Batman, he is known to
apefans as the artist responsible for Marvel's adaptations of "Beneath" and
"Conquest" as well as a couple of other miscellaneous chapters for the 70s
PotA mag. An excellent artist whether working on his own or inking others,
and verstile too (he was equally adept at a humourous style, used in such
publications as DC's "Plop!").

Alan

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 3:49 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] Whatever happened to...?

They were released about 3 weeks ago and they are fantastic!

They contain all episodes in sequential order.

Here is a link to a scan I did of a press release and also the 2 spines of
the outer boxes showing the episode titles.

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/POTAPAL.jpg

I am currently auctioning this on Ebay.  I am more than happy to buy the
tapes and send them to you at cost price for fans (about $90US) who can play
the tapes on a multi-system player (these are in PAL system which also plays
on the European SECAM system but not on the US NTSC system).

Michael Whitty (from Australia)

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell [mailto:alan@...]
Sent: Friday, 28 April 2000 6:47
To: Apes List
Subject: [pota] Whatever happened to...?

A few months back there was talk of another couple of box-sets being
released down under, containing the Apes TV series - what happened? Did they
ever come out? Or did Fox abandon their plans?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 3:49 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] Whatever happened to...?

They were released about 3 weeks ago and they are fantastic!

They contain all episodes in sequential order.

Here is a link to a scan I did of a press release and also the 2 spines of
the outer boxes showing the episode titles.

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/POTAPAL.jpg

I am currently auctioning this on Ebay.  I am more than happy to buy the
tapes and send them to you at cost price for fans (about $90US) who can play
the tapes on a multi-system player (these are in PAL system which also plays
on the European SECAM system but not on the US NTSC system).

Michael Whitty (from Australia)

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell [mailto:alan@...]
Sent: Friday, 28 April 2000 6:47
To: Apes List
Subject: [pota] Whatever happened to...?

A few months back there was talk of another couple of box-sets being
released down under, containing the Apes TV series - what happened? Did they
ever come out? Or did Fox abandon their plans?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 3:49 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] Whatever happened to...?

They were released about 3 weeks ago and they are fantastic!

They contain all episodes in sequential order.

Here is a link to a scan I did of a press release and also the 2 spines of
the outer boxes showing the episode titles.

http://users.cyberone.com.au/whitty/POTAPAL.jpg

I am currently auctioning this on Ebay.  I am more than happy to buy the
tapes and send them to you at cost price for fans (about $90US) who can play
the tapes on a multi-system player (these are in PAL system which also plays
on the European SECAM system but not on the US NTSC system).

Michael Whitty (from Australia)

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell [mailto:alan@...]
Sent: Friday, 28 April 2000 6:47
To: Apes List
Subject: [pota] Whatever happened to...?

A few months back there was talk of another couple of box-sets being
released down under, containing the Apes TV series - what happened? Did they
ever come out? Or did Fox abandon their plans?

Alan






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<< By the way,
why is it that no one talks about the "classic" series on this board
anymore? >>

Why I talk about it all the time. I say...Isn't the old stuff great...and
doesn't the new stuff suck. But I guess it's just that they have to have a
Cornelius in the new film, and I'm Kim Hunter fan, but do they have her
character in the new film?
Noooooooooooooo! Or should I say Noooooooooooova If it's a retelling why
not tell it with all different names? Why even bother to call it Planet of
the Apes? But we were talking of the original...Wasn't it great? :-)

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Dear Planet of the Apes Fans:

My name is Lukas Kendall and my company, FILM SCORE MONTHLY, has
just released on CD for the first time the ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK
RECORDING of BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES, music by Oscar-winning
composer LEONARD ROSENMAN.

FSM is a magazine about movie soundtracks and we also produce
limited edition CDs which we license from the film companies and
sell exclusively through the magazine.

Our BENEATH CD is fully licensed by 20th Century Fox and is available
by MAIL ORDER only from our website: www.filmscoremonthly.com.
It will NOT be in any record stores; it is a limited edition of
3,000 units.

As a special bonus, our CD features the original film score
(which has never been available in ANY form) which we have meticulously
remixed and remastered from the Fox vaults as well as the music-and-
dialogue LP tracks released on Amos Records in 1970.

For fans of Charlton Heston's films, among our other CD soundtrack
releases are The Omega Man; and for fans of composer Leonard
Rosenman, we also released his score to Fantastic Voyage.
See http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds for our complete catalog.

We just got our APES CD back from the plant today and I'm
trying to spread the word as much as possible! So I'm writing
as many Apes webmasters as I can -- I hope you're interested in
the disc and in spreading the word about it. Please contact me
if you have any questions; a cover scan is attached.

Following is the press release we're sending out with more info.
Thanks for reading and I hope you are interested in our CD.

Lukas Kendall
Lukas@...

****

FILM SCORE MONTHLY releases Beneath The Planet Of The Apes

Restored 1970 Sci-Fi Original Soundtrack by Leonard Rosenman

Film Score Monthly rescues from oblivion the second film score from the
legendary Planet of the Apes series.

The Film Score Monthly Silver Age Classics series presents another
long-lost science fiction score: Leonard Rosenman's stunning Beneath the
Planet of the Apes. The 1970 sequel to producer Arthur P. Jacobs'
groundbreaking sci-fi allegory Planet of the Apes picks up directly after
the first film ends, with astronaut George Taylor (Charlton Heston)
exploring the lifeless Forbidden Zone of a planet where apes evolved from
men. But Taylor soon disappears in a terrifying illusion, leaving Nova
(Linda Harrison) and another human explorer newly landed on the planet
(James Franciscus as Brent) to dodge gorilla patrols in Ape City and
eventually stumble on a twisted civilization of underground mutants.

Taking over for Jerry Goldsmith, composer Leonard Rosenman retained the
neoprimitive musical underpinnings of the ape world while creating a score
very much written in his own, inimitable style. The result bridges the
alien soundscape Rosenman created for Fantastic Voyage with the percussive
barbarism always associated with the upside-down civilization of the ape
planet. Rosenman's Beneath the Planet of the Apes is as inventive and
otherworldly as Goldsmith's original Apes score, yet Rosenman's approach is
in its way diametrically opposed to Goldsmith's--composed of
vertically-stacked layers of sound, clanging, metallic effects, bristling,
rambunctious chase music and a perverse, chaotic march for the ape army.
Add to this some striking electronic effects and a bizarre choral mass
written for the atomic bomb-worshipping mutants, and you have the recipe
for one of the most original science fiction movie scores ever written.

For years Leonard Rosenman's Beneath the Planet of the Apes score has been
available to collectors only in the form of a strange concept album
released in conjunction with the movie. For this LP Rosenman was asked to
rearrange his score for a smaller orchestra and add contemporary elements
including electric guitar performances and rock percussion. Leavening these
stylistic departures from his original score were several dialogue
sequences from the film, another common practice from the old days of
motion picture soundtrack albums that persists today. For the FSM Silver
Age Classics release we have gone back to the original score as heard in
the film in dynamic stereo sound, including every note Rosenman recorded
for the movie, electronic music and sound effects (some created to
sonically illustrate the mind-controlling abilities of the film's mutants)
and the score's hair-raising Mass for the Bomb.

This score has never been available before in its original form, and as a
bonus we've included the complete original LP arrangements and dialogue
snippets, which provide a striking contrast between the score Rosenman
originally wrote and its adaptation as a popular soundtrack album. It's the
second musical piece in the Planet of the Apes puzzle, and a fascinating
companion piece to both the original Planet of the Apes score and Leonard
Rosenman's science fiction and fantasy work.

FSM's Beneath the Planet of the Apes CD is available exclusively from the
magazine and website (www.filmscoremonthly.com) for $19.95 plus shipping:
Film Score Monthly, 8503 Washington Blvd, Culver City CA 90232, ph:
310-253-9595 or toll-free 1-888-345-6335; fax: 310-253-9588;
Lukas@...

For more info (including track list):

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/articles/2000/12_May---Beneath_the_Planet_of
_the_Apes_CD.asp

For an ordering form:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/order.asp

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8503 Washington Blvd, Culver City CA 90232, USA
ph: 310-253-9595; fax: 310-253-9588
Lukas@...; http://www.filmscoremonthly.com

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In a message dated 1/17/01 5:35:54 AM !!!First Boot!!!, comicsape@...
writes:

<< has everyone got their DVD box set yet?
I have a couple sealed copies left >>

What are the rates?

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From: Hunter Goatley

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 8:05 AM

Subject: [pota] USA Today article

Today's USA Today has an article on Rick Baker's ape designs for the
new movie.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/enter/movies/movie434.htm

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In a message dated 1/17/01 5:35:54 AM !!!First Boot!!!, comicsape@...
writes:

<< has everyone got their DVD box set yet?
 I have a couple sealed copies left >>

What are the rates?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Christopher Carr

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 11:00 AM

Subject: documentary film

Love your site and your dedication. My personal obsession is documentary
filmmaking.  i am looking for POTA fans in the washington d.c./baltimore
area for a documentary i am currently developing.  if you have any members
in my area, could you please pass the message along to them? thank you.
christo





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PLEASE SEND ME MORE INFO ON ANYONE INVOLVED IN THE ORIGINAL FILMS     THANKS

 

Leon Shamroy  born 4-16-1901 in New York City  died 1974.  Winner of 4
Academy Awards--The Black Swan 1942,  Wilson 1944, Leave Her to Heaven 1945,
Cleopatra 1963.  Was DP on The King and I,  The Robe, South Pacific, Porgy
and Bess, State Fair, The Snows of Kilemenjaro, The Agony and the ecstasy,
among many others.  In "the Film Encyclopedia" editied by Ephraim katz, he is
described as "an innovative lighting camraman, he was one of the first to use
a zoom lense....for 30 years his style dominated production quality at Fox."

L.B. Abbott  born Lenwood Ballard Abbott on June 13, 1908 in Pasadena.  Died
in 1985.  Won Academy Awards for The Posiden Adventure 1972,  Dr.  Doolittle
1967,  Tora Tora Tora 1970, and Logans Run 1976.  Also worked on The Fly,
Fantastic Voyage, Butch cassidy and the Sundance Kid,  patton, and the
Towering Inferno.

John Chambers won an honorary Academy Award for his work on Planet of the
Apes, and was only the second person in history to be so hoored for make-up.

Mortin Haack was nominated for an Academy Award for his work on Planet of the
Apes.  He lost to Romeo and Juliet.

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did all 19 figures come out?   and if so did they all come out at the same time or in batches?

 

From: LordTZer0@...

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 1:20 AM

Subject: New Ultra Detailed Figures from Medicom Toy Corp.

I finally got my Medicom Ultra Detailed Zira.  It's Fantastic!  Except for
the green boots it's perfect.  Not since the Addar resin kits has there been
anything this good, and this is even better.  Not very posable, but I'd trade
accuracy for flexibility any time.  The back of the box has the usual
Japanese idiosyncrasies.  Milo is called Miro. 

I'm guessing Greatest Ape is The Lawgiver, and there's 3 different soldier
apes.  Don't ask me who Ceaser Land's Ape is, or how he differs from Ceaser,
or indeed Caesar. But there are 19 in all.  The only pictures are of Zira,
Lucius and Ursus on the box, but they all look great.  I can't wait to get my
Zira Astronaut!  Here's the complete list as it appears on the box . . .

Zira
Lucius
General Ursus
Cornelius
Soldier Ape
Soldier Ape
General Urko
Taylor
Soldier Ape
Nova
General Aldo
Zira (Astronaut)
Taylor (Astronaut)
Caesar
Caesar Land's Ape
Miro (Astronaut)
Cornelius (Astronaut)
Greatest Ape




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From: Toysurfers@...

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 7:43 PM

Subject: MEDICOM to release POTA Tin Windup Character "Robot" Series!!

Hello!
Thought you might like to know that Japanese toy manufacturer Medicom has
announced that they will soon release 3 different tin windup character
"robots" based on the classic PLANET OF THE APES series.
You can see a photo of them at JustBe Distribution's website:

http://www.justbetoys.com/new/medicom_apetin.jpg

 

Thought you might be interested!
I can't wait to get them -- just wish they had done one of Charlton Heston as
Taylor in his Astronaut suit. Oh well -- maybe they will later!
Take care,
Chuck Foster
ToySurfers@...

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From: adami

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 7:17 AM

Subject: [pota] ApeCon 2000

Hi, dear Apes friends!

I am Adami, from Brazil, and I have good news. Please, look at:

www.comix.com.br/eventos/apecon/

I´m not the ApeCon (São Paulo, Brazil - October 8th, 2000) organizator but I´m a celebrity invited!

Bye for now,
 

Adami

PS.: And, if possible, look at our POTA website:

www.mcanet.com.br/lostinspace/apes/apes.html"
 
 

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----- Original Message -----

From: marmat

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 1:08 PM

Subject: We want chuck!

They're remaking "Planet of the Apes" without
Charlton Heston!  IF this turn of events displeases
you as much as it displeases me, then do something
about it by Contacting:
Richard Zanuck (new "Apes" producer), Tom Rothman
(Film Group President), and Tom sherak (Film Group
Chairman) at:
20th Century fox, PO Box 900, Beverly Hills, CA
90213.
Tell them WE WANT CHUCK--HE'S TAYLOR-MADE FOR THE NEW
"APES"!
(After all, a "Planet of the Apes" without Charlton
Heston is like...a talking human in the Year
3978...they're both mutants.)
Don't you agree?

Producer Zanuck can also be emailed at his own
company's site, at Zanuckco@...

Thanks for reading.

Hopefully,

Marcus

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----- Original Message -----

From: JSe3689836@...

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 6:49 PM

Subject: [pota] Time Mag POTA Remake blurb

Anyone catch the blurb on Wahlberg being cast in the remake in this
weeks Time Magazine? (The one with Life on the Mississippi on the
cover) It's on page 118 in the People section. Written by Josh
Tyrangiel. Has a picture of Wahlberg smiling like Buster Poindexter.
It's titled "Damn Dirty Gen-X Ape" Here's the complete text:" Cast
Keanu Reeves as Moses in The Ten Commandments if you like. Make
Freddie Prinze Jr. into the new Judah Ben-Hur. But why, why, why must
Hollywood desecrate Charlton Heston's perfect performance as Colonel
George Taylor in Planet of the Apes? Mark (Marky Mark) Wahlberg, 29,
signed on this week to fill Heston's giant sandals as the cluelessly
histrionic time traveller in Tim Burton's reimagining of the great
ape film, tentatively scheduled for a July 4, 2001 release. (Wahlberg
has already committed to the sequel.) Gary Oldman is reportedly being
considered for the role of the evil president of the ape assembly. No
word if Wahlberg will sport a Calvin Klein loincloth." Enjoy, John

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From: Jon Hendy

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 12:25 AM

Subject: [pota] Customs

Hey All,

I finally finished up the last of my 12" Apes customs.  Thanks for everyone
on the Zira boot/shoe color thang.

I basically was really bummed at the quality of the 12" Hasbro Apes line. 
The bodies sucked and the costumes were wrong in some ways (mostly the
coloring).  So I put all of my apes on Adam bodies (the ultra-posable 12"
Joe body made by Dragon) and fixed them up (added hair, dyed clothes,
etc..).  When it came to Ursus, I individually casted armor plates in resin
and constructed his body armor.  Took forever.  And yes, Nova is a Barbie.

The pictures aren't the greatest, but I figured that I'd give you guys and
gals a look and then take better pics later.

Planet customs:

http://www.geocities.com/spencebrown/planet1.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/spencebrown/planet2.JPG

Beneath customs:
http://www.geocities.com/spencebrown/beneath.JPG

Conquest customs:
http://www.geocities.com/spencebrown/conquest.JPG

Battle customs:
http://www.geocities.com/spencebrown/battle.JPG


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From: Philip Nobile

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:20 PM

Subject: [pota] "Being keeping under wraps"

Journalism's gone into the toilet.

From The Hollywood Reporter:

Warren dives into Burton's 'Apes' remake

Newcomer Estella Warren is in final negotiations to join Mark Wahlberg
in director Tim Burton's "Planet of the Apes" remake for 20th Century
Fox. Details on the project are being keeping under wraps, but the story
is different from the original in that Wahlberg is a pilot instead of an
astronaut. It's believed that she will play Wahlberg's love interest,
but the studio would not confirm that. The project, being scripted by
William Broyles Jr., is expected to begin shooting in the fall for a
projected July 4 release. Warren, a Sports Illustrated swimsuit model
and former nationally ranked Canadian synchronized swimmer, has only
been acting for several months, having landed roles in Michael Rymer's
indie feature "Perfume" and Tapestry Films' indie feature "Tangled" (a k
a "Conspiracy of Weeds") opposite Rachael Leigh Cook. Warren went before
the cameras this week for Warner Bros./Franchise Pictures' "Champs" for
director Renny Harlin. The film, shooting in Toronto, stars Sylvester
Stallone and Til Schweiger

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.html I have heard ( but cannot confirm) that all previous Planet Of The Apes products will be placed on moratorium as to dry up the market of "classic" merchandise prior to the release of the new film ( when there will be ALL NEW merchandise). IF the TV series is ever released on VHS or DVD in North America, it will be probably after the release of the new movie in anticipation of capitalizing on the renewed interest in "APES" w/ the new movie. As I mentioned, I'm not certain, but am only making an assumption.
On the topic of new merchandise, for us collectors it will be interesting to see if the New stuff is successful. As huge as the movies were for their time, I remember seeing a LOT of  "Jurassic Park" and "ID-4" merchandise in the bargain bins.
Best,
KEN

Terry Hoknes wrote:

  has everyone got their DVD box set yet?I have a couple sealed copies left does anyone know (maybe Ken Taylor) if there is any talk of releasing those tv episodes yet in North america ? 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Philip Nobile

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 9:25 AM

Subject: [pota] DVDs

 Apes Saga Coming to DVD!

Here's a little tidbit from dvdfile.com (thanks to our tipster for
letting us know):

Now, on to the goodies. First is probably the biggest Fox request as of
late, the PLANET OF THE APES box set. Indeed, this six-disc set
is THX-certified and all-anamorphic (yeah, baby), will arrive around 4Q
2000 and features all the films plus an extra "sixth disc" containing
the terrific making-of documentary seen on the Fox Channel, amongst
other places. However, never fear, the sixth disc will be included in
the
box set and you won't have to mail away for it! There may be some other
goodies on the discs, but in any event it looks pretty dang cool. No
price is yet available.

Click here to read the full story
http://www.dvdfile.com/news/special_report/events/studio_day/htf.htm.

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From: Hans

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:20 AM

Subject: VideoCD(VCD)

Hi,

We do sell PLANET OF THE APES  Video CD (VCD), exactly like videocds.com but
cheaper!

Our site is http://www.allvcd.com/search.asp?Keywords=planet+of+the+ape



Regards,
Hans
AllVCD.com

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nobody has seen them but here is where they were advertised

 

DIAMOND PREVIEWS VOLUME 10 #4

PAGE 327 PLANET OF THE APES 2001 WALL CALENDAR $12.99

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Yeah and how come the TV series had a DR Zaius and no other names the same?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2001 18:18
To: pota@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: MORE APE PICTURES


<< By the way,
why is it that no one talks about the "classic" series on this board
anymore? >>

Why I talk about it all the time. I say...Isn't the old stuff great...and
doesn't the new stuff suck. But I guess it's just that they have to have a
Cornelius in the new film, and I'm Kim Hunter fan, but do they have her
character in the new film?
Noooooooooooooo! Or should I say Noooooooooooova If it's a retelling why
not tell it with all different names? Why even bother to call it Planet of
the Apes? But we were talking of the original...Wasn't it great? :-)

Hey Michael,
You're forgetting...there was a Dr. Galen in the original.

Best,
KEN

Michael Whitty wrote:

> Yeah and how come the TV series had a DR Zaius and no other names the same?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2001 18:18
> To: pota@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] Re: MORE APE PICTURES
>
> << By the way,
> why is it that no one talks about the "classic" series on this board
> anymore? >>
>
> Why I talk about it all the time. I say...Isn't the old stuff great...and
> doesn't the new stuff suck. But I guess it's just that they have to have a
> Cornelius in the new film, and I'm Kim Hunter fan, but do they have her
> character in the new film?
> Noooooooooooooo! Or should I say Noooooooooooova If it's a retelling why
> not tell it with all different names? Why even bother to call it Planet of
> the Apes? But we were talking of the original...Wasn't it great? :-)

Good Call Ken. Actor Wright King played the corrupt surgeon, Galen, who tampered
with Bright Eyes' brain tissues to create a speaking monster! (At least that's
what Honorius would like the tribunal to believe).

We used Wright King's pants for our Cornelius display on the Apemania website.
<http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS.htm>

Later,

Brian

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

> Hey Michael,
> You're forgetting...there was a Dr. Galen in the original.
>
> Best,
> KEN
>
> Michael Whitty wrote:
>
> > Yeah and how come the TV series had a DR Zaius and no other names the same?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2001 18:18
> > To: pota@egroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [pota] Re: MORE APE PICTURES
> >
> > << By the way,
> > why is it that no one talks about the "classic" series on this board
> > anymore? >>
> >
> > Why I talk about it all the time. I say...Isn't the old stuff great...and
> > doesn't the new stuff suck. But I guess it's just that they have to have a
> > Cornelius in the new film, and I'm Kim Hunter fan, but do they have her
> > character in the new film?
> > Noooooooooooooo! Or should I say Noooooooooooova If it's a retelling why
> > not tell it with all different names? Why even bother to call it Planet of
> > the Apes? But we were talking of the original...Wasn't it great? :-)

Lest we forget the ID4 teams GODZILLA merchandise? That almost
immediately went to the bargain bins!

B

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

> I have heard ( but cannot confirm) that all previous Planet Of The
> Apes products will be placed on moratorium as to dry up the market of
> "classic" merchandise prior to the release of the new film ( when
> there will be ALL NEW merchandise). IF the TV series is ever released
> on VHS or DVD in North America, it will be probably after the release
> of the new movie in anticipation of capitalizing on the renewed
> interest in "APES" w/ the new movie. As I mentioned, I'm not certain,
> but am only making an assumption.
> On the topic of new merchandise, for us collectors it will be
> interesting to see if the New stuff is successful. As huge as the
> movies were for their time, I remember seeing a LOT of "Jurassic
> Park" and "ID-4" merchandise in the bargain bins.
> Best,
> KEN

.html Those VCD's are weird folks.  I think they were made in the Phillipines, and they run slightly faster in normal DVD players.  So if you don't mind listening to Alvin and the Chimp-monks, they're worth a giggle.

Brian

Terry Hoknes wrote:

are there any pictures of these anywhere posted?

 

From: Hans

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:20 AM

Subject: VideoCD(VCD)

 

Hi,

We do sell PLANET OF THE APES  Video CD (VCD), exactly like videocds.com but
cheaper!

Our site is http://www.allvcd.com/search.asp?Keywords=planet+of+the+ape
 
 

Regards,
Hans
AllVCD.com
 

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This may be old news but some collectors among you might like to take a look.

http://www.zaius.com/dept/apecity/ape.doll/index.htm

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>From: "Alexander Ruiz"

>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com

>To:

>Subject: Re: [pota] Primates....

>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:43:37 -0500

>

>Cool, I've never heard of this place before Lynne.

>Where is it located, up north I would guess. All we have down here in the southern half is metro zoo.

>

>Best,

>

>Alex

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Lynne Miller

> To: POTA@...

> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 2:50 PM

> Subject: [pota] Primates....

>

>

> I just wanted to let the list know about a little place by me here in Florida...Alex, I'm not sure if you have heard of it. It's called The Suncoast Primate Sanctuary and you can see it at www.chimpfarm.com

> I have worked there on a volunteer basis whenever I can make the time.

> *Lynne*

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Lynne Miller

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:14 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Primates....

The Chimp Farm is located just outside Tampa, in Pinellas County.  It is a very enriching place to volunteer...except that the orang has a bit of a temper!  I think he is trying to communicate using hand signals, and if you don't pay attention to him he will throw 'caca' at you!  LOL!  The baby chimps are precious!!

I was there when they brought an egret in...horrible!  Someone had shot off it's wings and left it to die.  I have to go there today, so I'll check up on that.  I go at least once a week to drop off cans for recycling..and the profit goes directly to the chimps.

                                                               *Lynne*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>From: "Alexander Ruiz"

>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com

>To:

>Subject: Re: [pota] Primates....

>Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:43:37 -0500

>

>Cool, I've never heard of this place before Lynne.

>Where is it located, up north I would guess. All we have down here in the southern half is metro zoo.

>

>Best,

>

>Alex

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Lynne Miller

> To: POTA@...

> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 2:50 PM

> Subject: [pota] Primates....

>

>

> I just wanted to let the list know about a little place by me here in Florida...Alex, I'm not sure if you have heard of it. It's called The Suncoast Primate Sanctuary and you can see it at www.chimpfarm.com

> I have worked there on a volunteer basis whenever I can make the time.

> *Lynne*

>

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I fully agree, for in the end it is a PLANET OF THE APES.

Well put Mike.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Attachments :

Nice pic... Anyone have any further news on this?

<< I fully agree,>>

I fully disagree.
But if you own the rights to something, I suppose you can call anything that,
and add or remove characters as you please. But as much as I like the
original, even that wasn't exactly faithful to the book. Look at the TV
series' that made it to the big screen. Wild Wild West and Lost in Space
spring to mind. They had little or nothing to do with the show. And IMHO
were both crap. Just because something is new doesn't mean it's improved.
Star Wars has been going down hill for years.

Hi Phil,

We just added a CONQUEST gorilla display to the site:
<http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS.htm>

and, NO, we won't be doing any of the NEW film's merchandise (it's not
in our contract with FOX). So just keep your eyes peeled to ebay for
the 500 or so costumes when the movie is released!!!

Brian

Phil wrote:

> --- In pota@egroups.com, Brian Dumont <afryt4u@e...> wrote:
> > Hi Juan,
> > Or go to <http://www.apemania.com>
>
> Am I the only guy on the list to have dropped some coin at
> apemania.com? These guys really know their stuff - when you consider
> the price of original memorabilia, plus the fact that it's aged 32
> years - apemania's products are even better than the real thing.
>
> Brian- please tell the list when you add things to your site - I
> sometimes forget to check. Will you guys be making any of those
> funky samurai costumes/props from the remake??? The horror . . .

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We just added a CONQUEST gorilla display to the site:
<http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS.htm>

 

WOW, very nice Brian.

You truly do have a talent.

 

and, NO, we won't be doing any of the NEW film's merchandise (it's not
in our contract with FOX).  So just keep your eyes peeled to ebay for
the 500 or so costumes when the movie is released!!!

 

You got that right, start saving your pennies folks!

E-Bay is going to get very expensive!

 

Best,

 

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Dave Ballard

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:27 PM

Subject: [pota] Nice image

Nice pic... Anyone have any further news on this?

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From: Dave Ballard

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 2:27 PM

Subject: [pota] Nice image

Nice pic... Anyone have any further news on this?

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>From: "Plexus" <plexus@...>

>Plexus Publishing are currently putting together a tribute to the Planet of
>the Apes phenomenon, provisionally entitled The Apes Chronicles - from the
>Pierre Boulle novel right through to the current remake/revision in the
>works and the various screenplay drafts that preceded it. (For more
>information please see attached blurb below.)
>
>
>We would like to extend an invitation for POTA collectors to provide
>photographs of their collections - particularly toys and masks - for
>inclusion in the pop-culture section of the book. Any which are accepted
>will receive a full credit and a complimentary copy of the book.
>
>
>I can be contacted by e-mail on paul@... / by telephone
>and fax on 0044 - 207 - 622 - 2440/1, and very much hope to hear from you.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Paul A. Woods.
>
>
>
>
>
>The Apes Chronicles
>
>
>In the year 2001, humankind is not ascending to the stars but is returning
>to the time of the Apes . . .
>
>Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes is one of the most eagerly anticipated
>Hollywood blockbusters in years. The maverick director's latest personal
>homage to the "monster culture" of his 1960s childhood, it is a project
>loaded with cultural potency.
>
>When the original Planet of the Apes made its screen debut in 1968, it
>created countless fascinated fans and confounded critics who expected a
>B-movie schlockfest. With a distinguished cast, the film convincingly
>created a world where evolution is inverted, where wise orangutans and
>fierce gorillas keep Man the savage beast in check - becoming a metaphor
>for its times that represented the fear of war and nuclear destruction,
>racial intolerance, civil unrest and ecological disaster.
>
>Evolving into a cult cycle of five films that ran through to the mid-1970s,
>the Apes series told an ingenious story of how space travel via a timewarp
>led to the end of (human) civilisation as we know it - and, ultimately, to
>the destruction of the earth itself. The Apes Chronicles traces the
>narrative of the Apes saga and features selected articles placing the
>original source novel, film and sequels in the tradition of apocalyptic
>cinema and science fiction. Illustrated throughout, it also describes the
>impact of the Apes upon mainstream popular culture, spawning TV and cartoon
>animation series, several comic books and various ephemera including toys
>and collectibles.
>
>The Apes Chronicles is the first book to examine the history of how the
>films' early fans, now grown up to be Hollywood players, revised and
>subverted the series' narrative themes throughout the 1990s. Early draft
>screenplays by different authors are analysed as to their influence on the
>final finished project - Planet of the Apes 2001, which promises to
>controversially re-imagine and re-visualise the original concept while
>retaining its humanistic vision.
>
>

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From: Helen Foster

To: 'comicsape@...'

Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:52 AM

Subject: Planet of the Apes INterview

Hello!  I am a BBC radio producer based in London.  I am looking to set up
an interview with a good talker from the POTA Fan Club regarding the re-make
due out in July 2001.  Ideally, I'd like to speak to a fan from the UK, but
a fan from the USA is also fine, provided they are good talkers, and know
their subject!

The interview will be broadcast on the Radio Five Live Breakfast programme
on Thursday 4 January 2001.  This is all speach news and sport programme
which tends to be live.  Depending on where the guest comes from we would
prefer to do the interview live, alternatively we can pre-record it -
particularly if you come from the USA.

If you can help at all, please call me on the number below.  If you're
calling from the USA, the international code is "00 44" then you dial "20
8624 9501".

I look forward to hearing from you.
 

Helen Foster
Broadcast Journalist
Wk:  020 8624 9501

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----- Original Message -----

From: Selby

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 11:26 PM

Subject: POTA

Dear PLANET OF THE APES INTERNATIONAL FAN CLUB

I thought my new book (Self-Worth Now!) would make a good edition to your POTA NEW PRODUCTS page.

In the last chapter of the book, I describe one of the most amazing and life-changing occurrences of my life: While I have attached the full chapter, it basically describes how I was able to recreate my fetal life through the end credits of the original Planet of the Apes film. It enabled me to have memories of my biological mother, whom I have never met.

While this is a far cry from books such as Eric Greene’s, I feel it is an important and unexplored aspect of POTA lore. Most of the reviews of my book always mention the POTA part of it. In fact David Gerrold , who wrote Battle for the Planet of the Apes, was so impressed that he wrote a major review of my book.

Anyway, I have either attached or sent the relevant part of my book to you. I would be more than happy to send you an autographed copy should you wish to read the whole thing (free of charge of course.) Self-Worth Now! has just been bought by iUniverse for reprint rights, and it has also been nominated by the SOHP as one of their favorite books of 2000.

Please contact me should you need more information.

Warmly,

Mike Selby

Email: mike@...

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