To: comicsape@...

Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:04 PM

Subject: copyright

Dear Terry,

Just this past year my interest in POTA was revived from the ashes of my
being a devoted POTA fan years ago.  I was thirteen when I first saw the
movie and I've been ape about it since then, my interest expanding into
science fiction and fantasy.

As an aspiring writer for children's books I just recently started writing
about the apes and has had a poem published by Alex Ruiz, Prophecysite. I
 also have written a story entiltled MYTH,  which is about 25,000
words.  I've been reading the story to my writer's group.  Suprisingly
they've given MYTH good reviews, suggesting I put the story in a
world of my own so I can have MYTH published professionaly

But I prefer to remain POTA because most of the story
is intervwoven into the events that occured in Conquest and Escape.  To do
that brings me to ask you a question Alex said you might be able to
answer.  That is; what's up with the copyright?

I know it involves a lot of money as I've been warned.  Other than that
I'm groping in the dark.
  

I have my doubts that MYTH can be publish professionly. As reality speaks,
I would have to be famous,or a well established,science fiction writer to
even be considered. But that won't stop me from writing POTA stories. For
me, writing about the apes is like wearing an old, comfortable, pair of
shoes your mom keeps throwing away.  Like David Gerrold told me a long
time ago, write what you know and just do it.  

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunter Goatley

To: POTA@egroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 10:21 AM

Subject: [pota] Apes merchandising article

The article below is from Reuters and is about the merchandising for
the new Apes film....

Hunter
------
Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/
<goathunter@...>     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sunday January 7 10:16 PM ET
Fox goes "Ape" with merchandising

By Dana Harris

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Twentieth Century Fox hopes its big summer
picture "Planet of the Apes" will generate a lot of monkey business
in the merchandising world.

Together with toy manufacturer Hasbro and specialty marketer Applause,
the studio has unveiled a major marketing push for the Tim Burton
epic.

The program, which will be launched at New York's Intl. Toy Fair (Feb.
11-15), is expected to generate revenues for the studio along the
lines of those for other Fox event titles such as "Independence Day"
or "X-Men."

Hasbro will unveil a line of action figures and collectible toys at
the Toy Fair, and will ship them to retailers just before the film's
July release.

Dark Horse Comics will publish "Planet" comic books and graphic
novels, while Buster Brown will produce footwear. In addition to
traditional products such as lunch boxes, posters, knit caps, trading
cards, T-shirts and backpacks, the "Planet" line will also include
dioramas, inflatable furniture, scooters and scooter heads, underwear,
clocks and shower caps.

The picture, which began shooting Nov. 6, is expected to wrap in
April. Mark Wahlberg, Helena Bonham Carter and Michael Clarke Duncan
star.

[End of article]

----- Original Message -----

From: Helen Foster

To: 'Terry Hoknes'

Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 8:18 PM

Subject: RE: Planet of the Apes INterview

Hi Terry!  I don't think we did it at the time.  However, when the film
starts to be made or is released we are bound to do something on it. 
Five Live is quite a tabloidy radio station - we aim to give a bang up to
date news and sports service with an accessible and fun feel to it.  More
than two million people now listen in the UK - and more on the internet.  We
have our own website too www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive - perhaps you could have a
look at it and let us know what you think?

The breakfast show is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Julian Worricker.
It is all speech and like the rest of the network aims to produce a less
"stuffy" approach to news - hence our enthusiasm for POTA. 

I'd like to keep in touch because there's a strong chance we'll do the story
again.

Best wishes
Helen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Hoknes [SMTP:comicsape@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:42 AM
> To: Helen Foster
> Cc: pota@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes INterview
>
> did the radio show broadcast?
> did you find anyone for the interview?
> if so, I'd like to hear more about the show !
>
> 
>
> From: Helen Foster <mailto:helen.foster.01@...>
> To: 'comicsape@...' <mailto:'comicsape@...'>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 9:52 AM
> Subject: Planet of the Apes INterview
>
> Hello!  I am a BBC radio producer based in London.  I am looking to
> set up
> an interview with a good talker from the POTA Fan Club regarding the
> re-make
> due out in July 2001.  Ideally, I'd like to speak to a fan from the
> UK, but
> a fan from the USA is also fine, provided they are good talkers, and
> know
> their subject!
>
> The interview will be broadcast on the Radio Five Live Breakfast
> programme
> on Thursday 4 January 2001.  This is all speach news and sport
> programme
> which tends to be live.  Depending on where the guest comes from we
> would
> prefer to do the interview live, alternatively we can pre-record it
> -
> particularly if you come from the USA.
>
> If you can help at all, please call me on the number below.  If
> you're
> calling from the USA, the international code is "00 44" then you
> dial "20
> 8624 9501".
>
> I look forward to hearing from you.
>
>
> Helen Foster
> Broadcast Journalist
> Wk:  020 8624 9501
>
>


This e-mail, and any attachment, is confidential. If you have received
it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose
the information in any way, and notify me immediately. The contents of
this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the
BBC, unless specifically stated.

Brian

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

I don't know if any of you have seen this but check out this image on Brian's Site.http://apemania.com/uc/uc7.htm Made me laugh, especially the company logo in the background.Cool work Brian, and I thought I was pretty good images. Here's one I did on Rick Baker at:www.prophecysite.com/rick-baker.htm Best, Alex

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:06 PM

Subject: Planet of the Apes

Dear Terry:

My name is Adrienne Weiss and I'm running a fact-check on an upcoming book
about "The Planet of the Apes."  There are a few things I'm hoping you can
clarify for me.  First, where the original film was filmed: Malibu Creek
State Park, California, and Port Dune, California?  The second question is
more related to Pierre Boulle - if you know by any chance when his first
novel, "William Conrad," was published?  I'm having a terrible time finding
this info as all sites devoted to Boulle fail to give a full summary of his
writings.  Thanks so much for your time and consideration on this matter. 
Your site is unbelievable!!!  So much fun.  Take care,

Adrienne Weiss
ECW Press, Toronto, Canada
_____________Get

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

I don't know if any of you have seen this but check out this image on Brian's Site.http://apemania.com/uc/uc7.htm Made me laugh, especially the company logo in the background.Cool work Brian, and I thought I was pretty good images. Here's one I did on Rick Baker at:www.prophecysite.com/rick-baker.htm Best, Alex

WOW!  Thanx Alex. FINALLY someone comments about that.  We had fun making them. Have you stumbled into the other ones yet?  There's quite a few. Click onto the INDEX for more <http://www.apemania.com/uc/>

Brian

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

I don't know if any of you have seen this but check out this image on Brian's Site.http://apemania.com/uc/uc7.htm Made me laugh, especially the company logo in the background.Cool work Brian, and I thought I was pretty good images. Here's one I did on Rick Baker at:www.prophecysite.com/rick-baker.htm Best, Alex

I have heard ( but cannot confirm) that all previous Planet Of The Apes products will be placed on moratorium as to dry up the market of "classic" merchandise prior to the release of the new film ( when there will be ALL NEW merchandise). IF the TV series is ever released on VHS or DVD in North America, it will be probably after the release of the new movie in anticipation of capitalizing on the renewed interest in "APES" w/ the new movie. As I mentioned, I'm not certain, but am only making an assumption.
On the topic of new merchandise, for us collectors it will be interesting to see if the New stuff is successful. As huge as the movies were for their time, I remember seeing a LOT of  "Jurassic Park" and "ID-4" merchandise in the bargain bins.
Best,
KEN

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Hight

To: 'comicsape@...'

Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:10 AM

Subject: 12" Planet of the Ape Replacement heads

<<4heads.jpg>>  <<4headsprint.jpg>>  <<aldohead.jpg>>  <<aldocloseup.jpg>>
 <<aldonohair.jpg>>  <<aldostanding.jpg>>  <<corneliushead.jpg>> 
<<lawgiverhead.jpg>>  <<zaius.jpg>>  <<zira.jpg>>  <<zirahead.jpg>>
Terry,

Thank you for getting back intouch with me!

My Ape project is 99% ready to go. My partner Mark Gonzalez and I are just
touching up the below picture so it looks a little more presentable.

This is the project: I have created replacement heads for those horrible 12"
Planet of the Apes figures. Click on the picture below.

These heads are made of resin and have been expertly sculpted by Jim
Phillips (sculptor of such garage kits as the Escape-o-nauts and Long Live
the King). I am selling these heads for $20 a piece and they come unpainted.

I originally commissioned these heads for my own collection and I am not
selling them to make a profit. Any money generated from a sale is being
poured into the next head.

Feel free to email me back with any comments or suggestions.

Chris Hight
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Hight
To: Chris Hight
Sent: 1/2/01 4:02 PM
Subject: pics

 <<4heads.jpg>>  <<4headsprint.jpg>>   
    <<aldostanding.jpg>> 
    <<zaius.jpg>>  <<zira.jpg>>
 

----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:24 PM

Subject: [pota] REMAKE MOVIE SET BLUE PRINT

For those of you who haven't seen the POTA movie set blue print that was sold on ebay. You'll find it at:

www.prophecysite.com/pre-production.htm

 

I don't know who bought it, the original link to this ebay auction appears to have been canceled. Looks like someone got in BIG TROUBLE.

Although the blue print doesn't show much.

 

Best,

 

Alex

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Dumont

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 8:38 PM

Subject: [pota] Fans in-put? Who woulda thought?

please update me Brian on this project Hey Gang,

Brian here again, from APEMANIA.COM.

For just about a year now, since the infestation of  the Kenner/Hasbro line of Planet of the Apes commemorative dolls, we've all been talking back and forth on how the coolest thing (other than the fact that there is new ape product for sale) is the packaging for the new dolls.  Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that there is enough interest in Planet of the Apes to warrant new merchandise, but personally, by today's toy standards, Kenner could have done a much better job with the likenesses and quality of the dolls.

I've read a great deal of comments here on the POTA web group, most of which reflect people's disappointment in the product, even though they are still happy that something NEW is out there.

Because of all the disappointment with Kenner's dolls, we thought we would turn to you the fans FIRST to prevent a similar situation from occurring.

In December we will be debuting our licensed ECONOMY line of Planet of the Apes masks, priced in the $79 (USA) range, but before we get too TOO deep into production, we thought it might be a good idea to contact the real hard-core Planet of the Apes fans (you folks) and get your opinions and suggestions BEFORE we make the product available to the masses.

Imagine that, the consumers actually get to give input and the manufacturer is welcoming it with open ears!  (Are you listening Kenner/Hasbro?  Watch and learn if you are...)

We have posted a couple of fotos of our first ECONOMY prototype on our site, however this design was just a test to see if we could get a convincing look with an inexpensive synthetic hair fabric and to determine how much the latex would shrink over time and if we needed to resculpt and compensate for that shrinkage.  We have gone back and resculpted this item and for aesthetics reduced the size of the chin, and we now are "ape-lying" the same specs to the rest of the characters we will be releasing.  You can all view the first ECONOMY prototype by going to this special link:

http://apemania.com/ECONOMY.htm
 

Please feel free to let us know what you think or what characters you would most want to see done in an ECONOMY mask.  This is your chance to voice your opinions BEFORE a product hits the shelves.  We want to make sure that every Planet of the Apes fan will like what they see with this line of products.

Thanx for reading and we look forward to your comments.

Brian Dumont
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
APEMANIA.COM
(818) 576-0739
 

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From: DrEvil86@...

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 5:49 PM

Subject: [pota] POTA Online game

Hey Everybody,
My friends and I are making an online ape RPG, I am personally designing all
the zones and characters and stuff, if anybody has any good ideas or wants to
help out please contact me. The game will be a "mud" using circle mud code,
it will be up pretty soon if anyone is interested

------------------------------------------------------------------------
The only fruitcake at overstock.com is our manager.
He's giving away a $20 coupon, plus our everyday Free Shipping.
Take advantage of the savings and selection now.
http://click.egroups.com/1/342/4/_/19617/_/946338591

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 Brian please update me on this project of yours and any others since !
 
 

Gosh Terry, don't you EVER toss out old e-mails?  How old was THIS one????  SHEEESH!!!

Lets' see 15 months ago, aye?   Where were we then...

Well the Apemania ECONOMY mask line is nearly complete.  We are still waiting to release the Zira mask, but she IS coming!!!  Just working out affordable ways of getting her hairdoos  done,  that's all.
The rest of the characters are there:

Cornelius   $109
Zaius   $119
Gorilla Guard   $109
Marcus    $109
Ursus  (available in one piece $149 or 2 pieces $169)

We weren't able to bring the prices in at the $79 range like we had hoped, mainly because of the hair expenses and with the manufacturing staying in the states (for quality control reasons).  We still are working on avenues that will drop all but the Ursus masks prices under 100 clams each, which has been our intention all along.  We are getting closer to being able to meet that target price range, so keep your fingers crossed folks.

We will be retiring the series one Ursus masks soon though.  We hope to release series two Ursus by summer.

You can view the available ECONOIMY MASKS at <http://apemania.com/ECONOMY.htm>
  We also offer a complete line of replica Planet of the Apes COSTUMES, authentic down to the last friggen stitch in many cases, and accessories. <http://apemania.com/COSTUMES/Costumes&Acces.htm>
  We have a DELUXE PROSTHETIC Mask line, for those fans who want all the advantages of a prosthetic make-up, but with only a fraction of the application time.  <http://www.apemania.com/MASKS.htm> I'm not that thrilled will the examples on the page though.  We'll be changing that real soon!
  We also offer complete PROSTHETICS and HAIR sets for those fans with a hard-core streak who want to ape-it-up "the real way" <http://apemania.com/PROSTHETICS.htm>
  And for those fans who would rather look at the Apes than wear them, we have:

• LIFESIZE DISPLAY BUSTS,  Both ECONOMY & DELUXE versions <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
• Lifesize MANNEQUIN Displays  <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS.htm>
• AUTHENTIC LAWGIVER STATUES:  <http://apemania.com/Statues.htm>
• and a line of RESIN KITS:  <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>

I think that about covers most of the merchandise issues, although there are some pretty cool things currently in the works.

As far as the APEMANIA troupe is concerned, we plan to be doing a few ape-pearances this year some of which will be to promote FOX INTERACTIVE's release of the interactive CD-ROM game.  Several of our troupe were involved with voice overs and motion capture work for the game.  And yours truly got FOX to hire Booth Colman to do the Zaius voices when our own Laird Macintosh was unavailble (he was in Europe film Speilburg's BAND OF BROTHERS at the time).  Funny how FOX didn't even think to contact many of the old actors to do the voices for their characters for the game.  They were all thrilled when they realized Booth was willing to do it, and he was thrilled to be a part of it.

We had Mr. Colman in the studio early last summer for an interview and handcasting session.  We have obtained Maurice Evan's original Dr. Zaius jacket and shoes as well as other original Dr. Zaius (although not Evan's) costume parts and are now reassembling them all into one really outstanding display mannequin.  We felt it would be an extra added touch to have Booth's hands cast for the mannequin as well.  He is a nice fellow and has some great stories to tell about Evan's and Karloff.

Anyway, that's about all I can ramble on about with our Ape maddness here.  Rick Baker's people did call last week to see if I can find time to come play with them on Tim's film, but I don't know..."people dressed as monkeys?  What if the audience laughs?"

Keep up the good work on your end,

Brian Penikas
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
and Creative Director for
Make-up & Monsters Studios

Terry Hoknes wrote:

Brian please update me on this project of yours and any others since ! 

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Dumont

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 8:38 PM

Subject: [pota] Fans in-put? Who woulda thought?

 please update me Brian on this project Hey Gang,

Brian here again, from APEMANIA.COM.

For just about a year now, since the infestation of  the Kenner/Hasbro line of Planet of the Apes commemorative dolls, we've all been talking back and forth on how the coolest thing (other than the fact that there is new ape product for sale) is the packaging for the new dolls.  Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that there is enough interest in Planet of the Apes to warrant new merchandise, but personally, by today's toy standards, Kenner could have done a much better job with the likenesses and quality of the dolls.

I've read a great deal of comments here on the POTA web group, most of which reflect people's disappointment in the product, even though they are still happy that something NEW is out there.

Because of all the disappointment with Kenner's dolls, we thought we would turn to you the fans FIRST to prevent a similar situation from occurring.

In December we will be debuting our licensed ECONOMY line of Planet of the Apes masks, priced in the $79 (USA) range, but before we get too TOO deep into production, we thought it might be a good idea to contact the real hard-core Planet of the Apes fans (you folks) and get your opinions and suggestions BEFORE we make the product available to the masses.

Imagine that, the consumers actually get to give input and the manufacturer is welcoming it with open ears!  (Are you listening Kenner/Hasbro?  Watch and learn if you are...)

We have posted a couple of fotos of our first ECONOMY prototype on our site, however this design was just a test to see if we could get a convincing look with an inexpensive synthetic hair fabric and to determine how much the latex would shrink over time and if we needed to resculpt and compensate for that shrinkage.  We have gone back and resculpted this item and for aesthetics reduced the size of the chin, and we now are "ape-lying" the same specs to the rest of the characters we will be releasing.  You can all view the first ECONOMY prototype by going to this special link:

http://apemania.com/ECONOMY.htm
 

Please feel free to let us know what you think or what characters you would most want to see done in an ECONOMY mask.  This is your chance to voice your opinions BEFORE a product hits the shelves.  We want to make sure that every Planet of the Apes fan will like what they see with this line of products.

Thanx for reading and we look forward to your comments.

Brian Dumont
Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
APEMANIA.COM
(818) 576-0739

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Dear POTA fan club

         I dont have birth or death dates on John Chambers(make up artist),
but the last I heard is he is living in a nursing home in California.   He
made some news recently when a rumor went around that he had designed the
purportedly authentic bigfoot in the "Patterson Film" the home movie from '67
that shows a "sasquatch" walking away from the camera. He denied this, and
still does.  He doesnt believe in sasquatches, but doesnt know what was in
the film.  He said something to the effect of anybody who did do the work
would have fessed up by now and had all the makeup work they could stand.   a
woman named Bobbie Short(sierra@...) did an excelent review of the subject
including an interview with Chambers. 

Hope this helps

BradLaGrange

Hey Brad, Terry, and Gang,

Yes, John and his wife are alive and well these days.  And he thanx those of you who were involved with the really nice tribute package that Dave Ballard and the UK fans put together.  When we visited him right before Christmas he was in great spirits.  He loves getting correspondence and visitors.  Please be aware though, because of his stroke, he now has to use his opposie hand for everything, so signing autographs can be difficult for him.  I've seen him struggle with that.
Anyway, if anyone would like to check in with him, you can contact him here:

 
John & Joan Chambers
c/o Motion Picture Home
23388 Mulhulland Drive
Lodge Room 429
Woodland Hills, Calif. 91364-2733

and tell him APEMANIA sent you!
Cheers,
Brian Penikas

 

 Dear POTA fan club

         I dont have birth or death dates on John Chambers(make up artist),
but the last I heard is he is living in a nursing home in California.   He
made some news recently when a rumor went around that he had designed the
purportedly authentic bigfoot in the "Patterson Film" the home movie from '67
that shows a "sasquatch" walking away from the camera. He denied this, and
still does.  He doesnt believe in sasquatches, but doesnt know what was in
the film.  He said something to the effect of anybody who did do the work
would have fessed up by now and had all the makeup work they could stand.   a
woman named Bobbie Short(sierra@...) did an excelent review of the subject
including an interview with Chambers.

Hope this helps

BradLaGrange

mflulder@... wrote:

Could someoen repostthe web site showing off these heads?

 

 

Could someoen repostthe web site showing off these heads?

Terry Hoknes wrote:

www.dlcwest.com/~comicsape/apenewproducts.htm  

 Could someoen repostthe web site showing off these heads?

>very cool
>did the seller say when it was from or how he got it?

>Some members of pota mail-list have seen parts of the final draft MS (and
>some have seen quite a bit of it too). Would they dare making any public
>comments....?
>

>Some members of pota mail-list have seen parts of the final draft MS (and
>some have seen quite a bit of it too). Would they dare making any public
>comments....?
>

Oooh, Can't resist a dare...

Mark's novel (or what I've seen of it so far) is head and shoulders
above any previously published, pota inspired, original fiction.

As a die hard Ape fan it's difficult for me to judge it's appeal for
one unfamiliar with the existing mythos but for anyone who subscribes
to this group bribe Mark with money, sexual favours, or whatever it
takes to obtain the first few chapters.

His characters are real, the language is a delight and the situations
are far more imaginative than the later movies or Tv show ever dared
to be.

Can I have chapter 19 now please?

Dave B

 

hehehehe!!!

You crack me up Dave.

I'll have your Remake Teaser Poster in the mail on monday bud.

(Don't worry about the shipping cost)

 

I'll be e-mailing you on sunday about the other POTA topics in the e-mails you sent me the other day.

And thanks again for that awesome picture you sent all of us the other day, it was a cool addition to my site.

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Hunter Goatley

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:05 AM

Subject: [pota] Please edit your posts!

When replying to a post, *PLEASE* take a moment and edit your
reply so that you're not including the entire original post to which
you're replying.  It's getting darn near impossible to read the
digests these days, because the same message will appear in its
entirety as many as half-a-dozen times as people reply to it and
include the whole test, over and over and....

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:08 AM

Subject: [pota] Of interest?

This may be old news but some collectors among you might like to take a look.

http://www.zaius.com/dept/apecity/ape.doll/index.htm

brian

Terry Hoknes wrote:

  

	The John Chambers Tribute Video features contributions of Apemania and Rick Baker.

----- Original Message -----

From: SimianArms@...

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 1999 7:55 PM

Subject: POTA Web site

Hello, My name is Mark, I was searching the Internet for planet of the apes
sites and came across yours. I was wondering if you wouldn't mind stopping by
my site and taking a look around. The address is:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Cinema/7171/Page1.html"

simianarms.8m.com

I've been busy updating it and have got lots of great pictures of original
apes costumes and weapons, as well as an ape weapons reproduction gallery.

If you like my site, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind adding me to your
links page. If you would like I can send you a banner for my page.

Thanks, I hope you like it.

Mark G
simianarms.8m.com

DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THIS LINE QUOTEDIN THE VARIETY ARTICLE BELOW ?
ANY COMMENTS?

 

Well, there really isn't much to say on that that hasn't been already said.

Some here think it's good idea, some think it's a bad idea. About Wahlberg being in the movie.

 

I personaly see nothing wrong with the guy other than the fact that the guy has a bit of an ego problem. But I think he's a good actor, not my number one choice, but I think he'll do fine.

 

If sequal plans are made ahead of time then no doubt they must believe they have a major Block Buster on their hands. And by doing so I'm hoping they would at least get the earth dates correct this time around. Still waiting to see this teaser trailer. But I'm pretty sure that this trailer won't come out until 20th Century Fox finally gets their POTA REMAKE WEB SITE up. I mean after all there has to be some kind of official sourse that will provide it on the web.

 

Although I sure as hell would be willing! :o)

 

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a superbowl commercial, last I heard there's only one spot left, and that spot is being sold for about 3 million dollars.

I don't know who's on the final list as we speak, I was hoping to find it somewhere on the web but no luck.

 

Best,

 

Alex 

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@egroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:40 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Apemania john chambers tribute video tell me about this where/when/who/ etc

Hey Terry.

I have a link to John Chambers Tribute tape at:

www.prophecysite.com/chambers.htm

 

All the information is there for those who want to purchase it. I just spoke to Scott just yesterday as a matter of fact. And he's making a whole batch of them to sell. Very cool video, you'll find a couple of clips from the video in real player format. Each runs about 2 to 3 minutes.

 

I'm trying at this moment to gather some media stuff on Rick Baker from Scott for the remake section, and if Scott begins to sell videos on Rick Baker's Remake makeups (after the movie release of course) I'll be posting a link you him as well on that page for purchase. And of course no doubt FOX will have a behind the scenes t.v. program just prior or after the release. So it's just a matter of time.

 

But the Chambers video is great, Both Scott and Brian did a great job with this  Tribute. It was a very cool thing to do. And very cool to watch.

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

To: 'comicsape@...'

Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 8:24 AM

Subject: More info & Aldo Soup to nuts

<<ape1.jpg>>  <<ape2.jpg>>  <<ape3.jpg>>
Terry,

Thank you so much for helping with this project of mine. I'm going to mail a
Aldo head out to you this weekend. You know how long the mail takes so
expect it somewhere around 3955A.D.--just in time for the world to end.


"give me more info on how people can get these from
 you who do you they write etc."

Anyone can feel free to contact me at:

email: chris.hight@...
phone: 610 583-8373
home: Chris Hight
506 Felton Ave.
Collingdale, PA
 
"how much work / hours does it take to do one
 properly?"

You can paint up a head in about 2 nights. The apes I make for my own
collection have hair and that takes around a weekend. One thing you have to
keep in mind is like all "garage kits" some cleanup is neccesary and these
heads sometimes have tiny air bubbles so a product called "Zap-a-gap" is
needed, Aves Expoy is also really good.

"how did you start up?"

It was all a progression, like the rest of the world I was completely
dissapointed with Hasbro's 12" ape line where each figure was worse than the
next. I started by painting Ursus gloves, and then moved onto having the
gorilla soldier vest made, but no matter what I did the figure still looked
awful because I was using Hasbro's heads. As you have seen Hasbro's
Cornelious, Zaius, Ursus, the Soldier Ape, and Taylor looked like complete
garbage and then out of the blue the garage kit company "Model Prisoners"
released this resin model called "Long Live the King" which is Ceaser from
Conquest. This was the best representation of an ape I had ever seen. Next
thing I know who is running an ad in a Model Magazine? Jim Phillips and
underneath of his name was "sculptor or the Ceaser kit".

I called Jim and told him I'm only doing this for myself etc. He said after
I sculpt one head it doesn't matter if you make 1 or 100 the mold is made.
Let me tell you sculptors are not for the faint of wallet, so I thought if I
can sell a handful of these heads I can make more charactors, figures that
Hasbro would never even think to make: Julius, Lucius, child Cornelious,
Brent, Prefect Barlow etc. 

That is the whole story and I hope you are still awake.

Below are 3 jpgs of my finished Aldo. I hope you like him. I believe he is
the best figure out there including Medicom (which I was also disappointed
in).

----- Original Message -----

From: DrEvil86@...

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 1:05 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] POTA Online game

yeah, like i said it was really ambitious, a little world for each movie, the
was going to be a zforbidden zone (desert) the city from the first one, the
subway system and old new your from the second, a zone where apes and humans
lived equally in a modern day time (sort of like the future would be after
caesar) and a place for apes only, humans only, and mutants only. I thought
this was really cool, and techniclly it is possible, but i havent the time or
energy to engage in such a large project. It's kind of a shame too because
there are little o no good POTA muds out there. there are plenty for star
trek, star wars, xena and hercules, even little know movies and stuff. I
suppose i have no one to blame but myself for not having a cool pota game,
theres probobly lots of other people out there like me who have a descent,
executable idea for something that will please a group of people but time
constraints and the general "complexity" of certain computer programs
extinguish whatever ceational desire they had in them.
Well I think I got off on a little rant there, in closing i wish to thank you
for your interest in my noble cause, and would appreciate a line if any of
you out there ever do stumble upon any pota games out there. perhaps there
will be a new spark of interesst once the new movie comes out this august.
Thanks,
Mike Troisi

> I hear lots of talk of the merchandising blitz that is going to accompany
> the new film. Surely one of the first items will be the inevitable cash-in
> "soundtrack" featuring lots of irrelevant songs...
>
>
>

> I hear lots of talk of the merchandising blitz that is going to accompany
> the new film. Surely one of the first items will be the inevitable cash-in
> "soundtrack" featuring lots of irrelevant songs...
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Name: remakecd.jpg
> remakecd.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg)
> Encoding: base64

>Vet funny. Kind of reminded of what to expect if MAD magazine was still

>Oh, that's right..it is STILL around.
>Also you forgot to include THE MONKEES.
>But I guess that's too obvious AND not very contemporary.

> Ken Taylor <kentaylor@...> wrote:
> >Vet funny. Kind of reminded of what to expect if MAD magazine was still
> around.
>
> Thanks! (and to the others who got a smile out of it)
>
> >Oh, that's right..it is STILL around.
> >Also you forgot to include THE MONKEES.
> >But I guess that's too obvious AND not very contemporary.
>
> I can't believe I forgot them! As for being contemporary... I think perhaps
> The Lovin' Baboonful was stretching it!
>
> Alan

Not as far as including:
Lancelot Link and the Evolution Revolution!

 

Or perhaps instead of Marky Mark, try Monkey Mark!

hehehe!!

 

I've got your artwork posted on the site Alan at:

www.prophecysite.com/fanart-remake.htm

 

Does anyone out there know of any good pc software to make some great PC wallpapers. What software did you use to make that CD remake picture Alan?

That may just do nicely.

 

Best,

 

Alex

> I've got your artwork posted on the site Alan at:
> www.prophecysite.com/fanart-remake.htm

>Does anyone out there know of any good pc software to
>make some great PC wallpapers. What software did you
>use to make that CD remake picture Alan?
>That may just do nicely.

> Perhaps Brian can answer this one?
>
> A Pal of mine "thinks" he saw a new write up for some Apemania busts
> in a magazine called "The Modelers Resource" (Not the fairly recent
> reviews in AFM)
>
> Is this true? If so I'll track down a copy.

>As far as I know, we've only submitted to AFM, but that doesn't rule out
>the fact that other publications have written us up. Modeler's Resource
>is a new one to me. I'd like to see the article if anyone finds it.
>
>Thanx for the heads-up.
>
>Brian
>
>Dave Ballard wrote:
>
> > Perhaps Brian can answer this one?
> >
> > A Pal of mine "thinks" he saw a new write up for some Apemania busts
> > in a magazine called "The Modelers Resource" (Not the fairly recent
> > reviews in AFM)
> >
> > Is this true? If so I'll track down a copy.

>From: "Michael Whitty"

>

>Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:28:47 +1100

>

>Yeah and how come the TV series had a DR Zaius and no other names the same?

>

>Michael

>

I used Photoshop, which is by far the best graphics package I've used (I
should stress that I only use them for silly things like that ape CD
picture, as I actually have no artistic ability at all), so I do recommend
that.

However, if it's for making a wallpaper, then I would suggest looking into a
recent version of L-View Pro or whatever it's called. The last version I
looked at actually had a specific option which turned a picture into an
image that could be tiled effectively for a wallpaper (of course this isn't
an issue if you just want one big desktop-sized image). You can download a
shareware trial version of L-View from the web somewhere.

Ape wallpaper, eh? Worth a try...

Alan

 

 

 

Thanks for the advise Alan, there are so many of those type of photo programs that I didn't know which one to choose. I'm basicly looking for one that you can make good mix of images to create wallpaper or even fan made posters like you see on most star wars sites for episode II and III.

 

Most of those fan made posters look really great for being home made, and when I saw yours it reminded me of those great fan creations. I'm just using a basic photo program that came with my scanner for the site. But to make something of the quality you've made I know I'll have to upgrade my software.

 

I've always like that fading look as you have done with the gorilla in the background, very well done. If you have anymore of those great fan art works my site is always be open. (and that goes for here at the e-group)

 

Thanks again for the info Alan.

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

>I've always like that fading look as you have
>done with the gorilla in the background

Yet it is wonderful to see that Planet of the Apes still inspires so many people to create and keep the faith alive!  More power to them all.

Brian

APEMANIA's one-to-one scale busts can be viewed at <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
 
 

Dave Ballard wrote:

>As far as I know, we've only submitted to AFM, but that doesn't rule out
>the fact that other publications have written us up.  Modeler's Resource
>is a new one to me.  I'd like to see the article if anyone finds it.
>
>Thanx for the heads-up.
>
>Brian
>
>Dave Ballard wrote:
>
>  > Perhaps Brian can answer this one?
>  >
>  > A Pal of mine "thinks" he saw a new write up for some Apemania busts
>  > in a magazine called "The Modelers Resource" (Not the fairly recent
>  > reviews in AFM)
>  >
>  > Is this true? If so I'll track down a copy.

http://www.modelersresource.com/

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                   Encoding: base64

You just had to mention it Alex, eh? Of course this has done nothing to help
shatter Dave's vicious allegation that I have too much time on my hands.

So here it is, attempt number one - for all you fans of Caesar's story...

 

HOT DAMN!

You are good at this!

 

I'll be posting this one in the classic section tonight.

Keep'em coming, I'm going out today to get this program.

 

Very cool Alan.

 

Best,

 

Alex

> It never ceases to amaze me, with all of the photo reference

> DVD's, videos, stills, etc., etc., etc, that folks still miss the

> I'll be posting this one in the classic section tonight.
> Keep'em coming, I'm going out today to get this program.

Photoshop will run you around $800, assuming you don't get a bootleg
copy . . .

 

Say WHAT!

Dude this is a web site I'm dealing with not a house payment!

Looks like I'll be sticking to Photo Delux for a very long time to come.

 

Thanks for the info.

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

P.S. Hey but thanks Alan for bringing this fade option to my attention, becuase of that I was able to find that option on that stored away software I had. It's goin to come in handy once the trailer comes out.

 

>P.S. Hey but thanks Alan for bringing this fade
>option to my attention, becuase of that I was
>able to find that option on that stored away
>software I had. It's goin to come in handy once
>the trailer comes out.

Photo Deluxe is good - it's basically PhotoShop with less of the fancy
features. Certainly everything I've done can be done on Photo Deluxe, and
having seen the picture you did (nice!) you certainly don't have trouble
creating nifty pictures with it either. (And it was free with my scanner -
slighly easier and/or cheaper to get hold of than PhotoShop.)

Alan

 

Thanks for the cool remark on my morphed photos on the fan art work section Alan, and thanks for the help as well. I've just morphed the Lawgiver on the main page image and I think his will be the final draft pic for the intro of the site.

 

And yes I do agree LordTZero that unless you have a purpose of making money off of it, it wouldn't be wise to buy such a program. Or unless you get a hold of it like Alan did. With Scanner. (or win the lotto)

So in the meantime it's Photo Deluxe for this ape-nut.

 

Best,

 

Alex  

>Yeah, Photoshop is usually used by color correction houses and ad agencies

>tweak their work digitally. I've played around with it at school. I'd

>to have it, but unless the price comes down or someone come up with

>similar, with a more consumer friendly price I'm stuck with photo deluxe

Go to e-bay and search for "Adobe Photoshop" - you'll find it's a lot less
than $800... looks like e-bay's good for more than just Ape memorabilia! :)

Alan

 

Thanks Alan.

I just went ahead and downloaded the tryout version from their official web site. The tryout version is for their 6.0 version and is about 40.5 Megs in size. But because I have Cable Internet it only took me no more than 6 minutes to download. I'll toy around with this for a few days and if I like it I'm off to e-bay.

 

Thanks again, and sorry to all for speaking off topic.

 

Best,

 

Alex

>Hey all, it's nice to find you guys! Brief intro: I'm an American
>living in England who's been a POTA fan forever; fave characters all
>have the name McDowall behind them (trend-spotters, I'm female); love
>the entire kit and kaboodle but am especially fond of the short-lived
>tv series. (Still wishing a pox on CBS...and hey, gee, it worked!)
>
>Coupla questions I hope someone can answer --
>
>1) Why was "The Liberator" never aired during the series' first run
>in '74? Did it have to do with the controversial content, or did CBS
>just close the door period? I'm curious because I think I saw
>somewhere that the last aired ep, "Up Above the World So High", was
>filmed after "The Liberator", which means the two aired out of
>sequence. (I'll warn you, I'm a conspiracy-theorist...but only in the
>nicest way. :)
>
>2) Nothing against any Aussies in the crowd, but why were first
>distribution video rights to the series bestowed on Australia? Seems
>a bit crazy to test the waters there, since the majority of
>interested buyers use NTSC format, not PAL. Further, why'd it take so
>dang long? I mean, 26 years?!
>
>Toddling off now. Any complaints, see my pal Pete H. He's the one who
>dropped me into -- er, directed me here. ;) /Mez
>
>
>
>

> Hola POTA people...
>
> Just got the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly in the mail today (issue
> #579/580 double issue, dated Jan. 26/February 2,2001). It's EW's "Our Guide
> to 2001" issue. There's a small piece at the top of page 46 about the new
> movie but no new insight really. Two things in it though: first, there's a
> picture of Tim Burton and Mark Wahlberg on one of the sets or on location,
> previously unseen/unreleased photo I believe. Markie Mark is sporting
> short, military-ish hair and looks like he's been eating one too many
> bananas lately. Just my opinion.
>
> The small article (7 sentences) is mostly rehash and reiterates Burton's
> vague plans but they do quote Zanuck as saying, "It doesn't take place in
> Earth's future...This time it it's a totally different planet. But there is
> a surprise ending" ( quote out of Entertainment Weekly). I don't remember
> hearing anything specific about a different planet but it would fit it with
> some of the storylines that are out there, Wahlberg and his mission. Quite
> cool, small as it was. I won't elaborate further plot-wise in case someone
> here hasn't heard; check the internet or write me if you haven't heard the
> story line(s). I'll scan the photo this week and throw it on my website,
> I'll tell y'all when it's up.
>
> Uh-oh, I feel a rant coming on, allow me to briefly preach to the choir.
> It kills me that they relegated the piece to a 3x3 inch piece thrown in
> a corner in the middle of the magazine. Um, I know there's a lot of movies
> getting some buzz this year, especially after 2000's sorry display, but
> isn't the Apes one of the hottest releases this summer (the?)? Does
> Rollerball really
> deserve half a page and Jurassic Park 12 (or whatever number they're up
> to...) needs
> three quarters of a page? Yawwwwwwn. Not to mention this year's
> installment of Eddie Murphy's yearly suck-a thon and the Mummy 2 getting
> bigger write-ups than the new Planet of the Apes film?? I'm delusional,
> right? I know many of us here are lunatic fans ( just a tad biased too...)
> and this year marks ends almost 30 years of waiting (quite deservedly so, I
> think even a non-fan should agree this is a great film to "revision")
> Just glance at the facts surrounding the pabulum coming out recently ,
> especially with 95% of the sequels/remakes that
> Hollywood is squatting and squeezing out, trying to sell us these days). I
> don't know the full scope of the planned marketing (pretty huge from word
> that's out, right?) but
> I hope this is just one dumbass, ignorant magazine with it's own bland
> agenda. They did give the upcoming Lord of Rings a cover picture and two
> full pages and I can respect that, even never having read any Tolkien.
> Given
> the scope of that project and geez, those poor fans have waited longer
> than we had to I think, didn't they? Give 'em press, making three of them
> at once. But c'mon, that frickin' isn't out until,what, Christmas!? You
> know they'll feature it in their holiday films issue and give it a cover.
>
> Whatever. I'll like the new film no matter I'm sure (hey, this is MY Star
> Wars and Lord of the Rings dammit I've been waiting 29ish years! Since my
> Dad me took to the Go Ape! festival in the early 70's, all FIVE in one day.
> What a lucky 7 year-old I was) Aw hell, even a sucky film would be better
> than none. I'm sure we're all thrilled that there's been promising news in
> the reports and leaks coming out. The make-up alone will be worth price of
> admission not to mention the cameos and stuff we don't know yet (go Linda
> Harrison and hopefully Heston!). Love or hate Tim Burton, you have to give
> him props for his originality, creative vision and bizarreness in about all
> of his films. Let's just pray the script doesn't rot and that Burton
> develops his biggest (it is, right?) commercial endeavor wisely. Zanuck on
> board is gravy, needless to say. Couldn't have wished for much better
> overall.
>
> I'll save my rant about the original POTA being absolutely revolutionary,
> then and now in many ways: commercially successful, critically well-received
> and ground breaking in it's marketing. It set the stage for the Star Wars
> marketing blitz in some ways, once again IMHO. Its political, social and
> societal insight of the time that, whatever one's feelings about the
> sequels, broke ground time and again. Not to mention its stood the test of
> time. POTA was having figures released, by Hasbro no less, 30 years after
> the fact and before the remake was even greenlighted. It rewrote what could
> be done with make-up too as we all know as well of sci-fi from it's release
> and its influence hasn't stopped. Can't think of a movie immediately that
> covered all those bases and still does to date. So much for saving that
> rant...
>
> OK, I went on too long. Hopefully didn't lose anyone, just spewing here.
> Damn Entertainment Weekly got me worked up. Have a great week all! Please
> let there be word about a trailer soon, it seems to be my main reason for
> going to the movies these days! I'm guessing it'll be attached to the next
> "big' Fox release, gotta look that up.
>
> Last things, I swear: Some recommended reading if you haven't checked these
> out already, especially with the remake looming. MUST reads for the true
> POTA fans:
>
> -Planet of the Apes as American Myth: Race, Politics and Popular Culture by
> Eric Greene
>
> I'm sure many know about this OUTSTANDING book, chock full of surprise
> behind
> the scenes nuggets that just don't seem to stop. It's worth just scanning
> the complete cast listings on every POTA movie, TV show and cartoon, people
> I didn't know were in them (Army Archerd?). It was published about 5 years
> ago by the author as a thesis (I think it was a thesis project) while on an
> English
> fellowship at Wesleyan University. Naturally the title subject matter alone
> is a great read but the book contains such a huge amount of POTA info, tons
> I hadn't
> known prior. There's incredible rarely- if-ever seen behind the
> scenes/pre-production photos, many from the
> Loyola Marymount University's Charles Von der Ahe archive collection (HUGE
> Arthur Jacobs photo arrive there) as well personal photos from Natalie
> Trundy Jacobs private collection. The breadth of the information is
> phenomenal, especially when you consider it's a relatively small book for
> such a study that covers all 5 films and the TV shows along with
> merchandising and talk of the remake.
>
> Check out the amazing filmography, detailed notes, complete movie and TV
> cast listings and a
> superb bibliography. If you've got a POTA website, very strongly suggested
> reading (depending on your site's angle). I have a link somewhere for the
> Jacobs photo collection at Marymount, I can pass it on. Fox has a great
> photo vault too I hear but you gotta know somebody to access that. You can
> pick it up on Amazon. Not sure if Eric Greene is on the list here but I do
> see him bid on
> ebay now and again.
>
> -If you haven't read any of Heston's two retrospectives, either his
> personal journals "The Actor's Life" (published end of 70's I think, his
> first book?, maybe hard to find though) or his
> autobiography, "In the Arena", make sure you at least read Chuck's account
> of the development and production of the original Apes movie, especially as
> he was integral in getting it made. You can't be without the Chuck
> perspective in a way only he can tell. There's cool behind the scenes stuff
> all a la Heston, great accounts of his thoughts and views on it and of the
> time, especially
> how it (miraculously) came together. There's unique insider stuff in both
> but it bothered me that Heston dissed Linda Harrison a bit in the POTA
> section of "The Actor's Life". Completely unnecessary. Yeah Chuck, you're
> great, everyone knows but he chose to apparently ignore perspective. Anyone
> ever see that? Not cool on any level, showed no class at all, especially so
> if you've ever met Linda Harrison. She's as gracious and sweet as they
> come.
>
> -not really recommended reading from a POTA fan perspective, but
> a reference to the films: writer David Sedaris (NPR, This American Life
> radio) has a short story in a previous
> book of his, "Naked", titled "planet of the apes". There's just a brief
> mention in the beginning, the
> story starts with him waiting to be picked up from the all day Go Ape! movie
> marathon in the early 70's. Sedaris is absolutely hysterical though, you
> should read some of
> his short stories just to laugh at aneurysm-inducing levels.
>
> ...and lastly, They Might Be Giants have a bunch of Planet o'the Apes songs
> hidden
> on their most recent live album.
>
> I'm done, I promise!
>
> Rick

>From: "Mez Downes" <mdownes@...>
>Reply-To: pota@egroups.com
>To: pota@egroups.com
>Subject: [pota] Hi from a new 'old' fan
>Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 23:52:01 -0000
>
>Hey all, it's nice to find you guys! Brief intro: I'm an American
>living in England who's been a POTA fan forever; fave characters all
>have the name McDowall behind them (trend-spotters, I'm female); love
>the entire kit and kaboodle but am especially fond of the short-lived
>tv series. (Still wishing a pox on CBS...and hey, gee, it worked!)
>
>Coupla questions I hope someone can answer --
>
>1) Why was "The Liberator" never aired during the series' first run
>in '74? Did it have to do with the controversial content, or did CBS
>just close the door period? I'm curious because I think I saw
>somewhere that the last aired ep, "Up Above the World So High", was
>filmed after "The Liberator", which means the two aired out of
>sequence. (I'll warn you, I'm a conspiracy-theorist...but only in the
>nicest way. :)
>
>2) Nothing against any Aussies in the crowd, but why were first
>distribution video rights to the series bestowed on Australia? Seems
>a bit crazy to test the waters there, since the majority of
>interested buyers use NTSC format, not PAL. Further, why'd it take so
>dang long? I mean, 26 years?!
>
>Toddling off now. Any complaints, see my pal Pete H. He's the one who
>dropped me into -- er, directed me here. ;) /Mez
>

> Go to e-bay and search for "Adobe Photoshop" - you'll find it's a

> than $800... looks like e-bay's good for more than just Ape

> I thought you could get Photoshop much cheaper if you were a
> liscensed PD user; I think the cost is cut in half, at least.

Anyone else here there could be something possibly as early as a Superbowl
teaser? damn, nbow i gotta tape cbs allllllll day sunday!!

 

Not all day KC just the superbowl from start to finish. That is where 20th Century Fox played the teaser for TITAN A.E. in last year's superbowl.

Don't know for sure about an SB commercial so lets keep our fingers crossed.

 

Best,

 

Alex

--- In pota@egroups.com, Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@w...> wrote:
> The release of the series here in Australia was a result of my own
> personal lobbying. I work at Fox Home Entertainment...
> As I've mentioned previously to the group, I believe that if the new
> movie does huge business, Fox will be looking for opportunities to
> generate more revenue from the franchise which could well include
> wordwide releases of the TV series on video and maybe even DVD.

--- In pota@egroups.com, "David Mckellar" <dmckellar3@h...> wrote:
> Hi Mez,
>
> Nice to hear from a fellow UK pota fan. Interesting questions as
> well, I'm sure it won't be long before we'll see a few answers.
>
> Dan