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> I was bummed when I first opened my package containing the Astro-Zira
> and found they had placed the helmet on hiding the detail (yeah, I COULD
> open it, but I ain't).

You guys are missing out. That ugly ass packaging went right into the
trash, as these things need to be displayed alongside one another. Ursus
only looks good with a hand raised in the air, surrounded by a couple
soldiers. The sculpt jobs on all these figures are incredible, and
should be appreciated in all three dimensions. They nailed Roddy's
posture. Also, the old Addar model kits make perfect display bases for
the figures (see pic).

When you're dead and in your coffins, who cares whether or not some
plastic figurines are mint in package? The worms won't care.

>They put the
> helmet on her head before they seal the card. For all we know she

has

> no head at all!

She has one, and it's a different sculpt than the original Zira
figure (smaller hairdo to fit inside the helmet).

> Interesting also to see the different prototypes for the Battle and
> Conquest Caesars. I wonder which ones they'll go with.

As I understand it, they'll be releasing both - sort of teh way they
released two versions of the soldier ape (three if you count the
series, but they only listed two).

Sorry if this has been covered.

--- In pota@y..., Brian Dumont <afryt4u@e...> wrote:

>

> Better grab them while you can. I have a feeling they are going to

be one of

> the hotter items. After awhile they'll get so pricey, that you

buddy might

> just as well be better off getting the full-size statue!

All you monkey-come-latelys, please chill. Every time Medicom
releases these figures, folks go berserk on Ebay and pay $50 or more
per figure, when a little patience will get them in your hot little
hands for $32 or so, without killing each other on Ebay to do it.
I've been buying these things for over a year, so believe me when I
say you only hurt each other by starting a buying frenzy.

Every single figure released so far, except that brown Cornelius, is
still available periodically from the sellers previously mentioned. I
suggest Ebay as a LAST resort (unless you use the Buy It Now
feature). You'll kick yourself later for buying at Ebay-inflated
prices. At $30 per, not every collector is snapping them up (just a
short while ago, Alex was scoffing at the prices), and Medicom
certainly seems to be making enough. This is a public service
announcement . . . WITH GUITARS!! (obscure reference, please ignore)

In a message dated 1/29/01 11:23:06 PM Central Standard Time,
pjn1209@... writes:

<< When you're dead and in your coffins, who cares whether or not some
plastic figurines are mint in package? The worms won't care. >>

I'm with you pal. I don't get these things for investment value. They're
for me to enjoy. I display as much of my collection as I have room for. If
it gets old I can always rotate it. But I do envy those of you with the
scratch to keep MOC collections. When I get that kind of dough you can sell
'em to me.

--- In pota@y..., "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@e...> wrote:

>It was a parody of the cornfield hunt by way of "Clerks". From what
>I hear it will open on Aug. 10, a mere 2 weeks after "Apes", a nice
>dessert (or perhaps an antidote for those who don't like the remake).

Or the final insult to those weary of Smith (a growing demographic,
to be sure).

Let me know how it turns out!

In a message dated 1/29/01 6:03:49 PM Central Standard Time,
alan@... writes:

<< Twenty-two. Twenty-two. I currently have a massive FOUR.

Looks like I've got my work cut out... >>

Twenty-two! Lucky I'm a Kim Hunter collector. Two is all I need. Unless
they come out with a Beneath Zira.

> Twenty-two! Lucky I'm a Kim Hunter collector. Two is all I need.

Unless

> they come out with a Beneath Zira.

Escape Zira would be more likely (hideous pink outfit).

I'm hoping (???) a Series Two can happen. You can easily get 20 more
figures out of it:

Julius
Zaius (riding outfit)
Dodge (lobotomized AND ANSA outfitted?)
Landon (ANSA and stuffed?)
Brent
Mendez Mutant
Victor Buono Mutant
Couple other mutants
Escape Zira and Cornelius
Caesar in cool as hell brown leather outfit
Armando (a stretch)
Virgil
Cornelius II (kid chimp)
John Huston as the Lawgiver

Okay, so maybe not 20. How about a scale version of the ship to make
up the difference?

Nothin' to do with having dough - it is only about buying these instead of
food!

Michael

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Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2001 16:40
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Medicom

In a message dated 1/29/01 11:23:06 PM Central Standard Time,
pjn1209@... writes:

<< When you're dead and in your coffins, who cares whether or not some
plastic figurines are mint in package? The worms won't care. >>

I'm with you pal. I don't get these things for investment value. They're
for me to enjoy. I display as much of my collection as I have room for. If
it gets old I can always rotate it. But I do envy those of you with the
scratch to keep MOC collections. When I get that kind of dough you can sell
'em to me.

While we're fantasizing, why not:

LISA ( conquest OR Battle)
STEWART (ANSA.. not dead, that's just milking it!)
TV ZAIUS
GALEN
ALBINA (with removable mask or mask accessory)

?


Phil wrote:

> > Twenty-two! Lucky I'm a Kim Hunter collector. Two is all I need.
> Unless
> > they come out with a Beneath Zira.
>
> Escape Zira would be more likely (hideous pink outfit).
>
> I'm hoping (???) a Series Two can happen. You can easily get 20 more
> figures out of it:
>
> Julius
> Zaius (riding outfit)
> Dodge (lobotomized AND ANSA outfitted?)
> Landon (ANSA and stuffed?)
> Brent
> Mendez Mutant
> Victor Buono Mutant
> Couple other mutants
> Escape Zira and Cornelius
> Caesar in cool as hell brown leather outfit
> Armando (a stretch)
> Virgil
> Cornelius II (kid chimp)
> John Huston as the Lawgiver
>
> Okay, so maybe not 20. How about a scale version of the ship to make
> up the difference?
>

Don't forget the Conquest Apes

Zelda
Gorilla Waiter Frank
Female Orang
and of course
Lou 'Lucius' Wagner's Busboy

Oh, and Mandemus

Oh yeah, and Kolp.

LordTZer0@... wrote:

> Oh, and Mandemus
>

--- In pota@y..., Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@w...> wrote:

> While we're fantasizing, why not:
>
> LISA ( conquest OR Battle)
> STEWART (ANSA.. not dead, that's just milking it!)

I'd only buy Dead Shriveled Stewart.

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Why don't you do one of your awesome customizing jobs on a barbie and stuff her into a Hasbro ANSA suit?  I'd like to see what you could do there!  Plus, commander Taylor already comes in a hybernation tube!!!

PS:  Stewart's orginal ANSA suit is up for sale!!!  The owner wants the monetary equivalent medium size family home for it.  Can we say "dreeeeeeeeeeeamer"?

Brian

Phil wrote:

--- In pota@y..., Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@w...> wrote:
> While we're fantasizing, why not:
>
> LISA ( conquest OR Battle)
> STEWART (ANSA.. not dead, that's just milking it!)

I'd only buy Dead Shriveled Stewart.

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--- In pota@y..., Brian Dumont <afryt4u@e...> wrote:

> Hey Phil,
>
> Why don't you do one of your awesome customizing jobs on a barbie

and stuff

> her into a Hasbro ANSA suit

No way.

Coming Attractions www.corona.bc.ca has new pics and info up . . .

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Hey Brian,

Do you know who owns Zira's original costume in that Planet Hollywood in
Canada?
Somday I might have house buying money.




T

And what about the 3 orangs from Planet at the trial (who do the see, hear
and speak no evil pose)?

How good were their costumes?

And the gorilla child at the chapel.

Michael Whitty
25 Hilder Street
Weston ACT 2611
AUSTRALIA

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From: Phil [pjn1209@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2001 1:38
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: 22 Medicom Detailed Figures

--- In pota@y..., Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@w...> wrote:
> While we're fantasizing, why not:
>
> LISA ( conquest OR Battle)
> STEWART (ANSA.. not dead, that's just milking it!)

I'd only buy Dead Shriveled Stewart.

<< --------------------
Sorry to break the silence but in honor of Pierre Boulle I present to you
Planet of the Apes Remake HOT NEWS!
www.americanmule.com >>

What! I didn't see any...but Josie and The Pussycat sure look like skanks!
And where are the Cat costumes?

When can we expect the first trailer, you ask?
"Was eating lunch one day in the catering tent when guess who sits down next
to me? Dick Zanuck!! I asked him when we would see the first trailer and he
said officially: President's Day. By the way, nice guy."

So, for those of us who do not reside in the US, WHEN IS PRESIDENT'S DAY?

Michael

Check out www.corona.bc.ca in about 30 minutes - they're showing
around 20 new images, including our first looks at a few
characters . . .

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From: Michael Whitty [mailto:whitty@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:02 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] President's Day

When can we expect the first trailer, you ask?
"Was eating lunch one day in the catering tent when guess who sits down next
to me? Dick Zanuck!! I asked him when we would see the first trailer and he
said officially: President's Day. By the way, nice guy."

So, for those of us who do not reside in the US, WHEN IS PRESIDENT'S DAY?

Michael

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Michael Whitty wrote:

And what about the 3 orangs from Planet at the trial (who do the see, hear
and speak no evil pose)?

How good were their costumes?

And the gorilla child at the chapel.

Hey!  I own that costume!  And I just spoke with Felix Silla this morning!  Wow!  Kreepy....

 

Michael Whitty
25 Hilder Street
Weston  ACT  2611
AUSTRALIA

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B

LordTZer0@... wrote:

Hey Brian,

Do you know who owns Zira's original costume in that Planet Hollywood in
Canada?
Somday I might have house buying money.

T

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<<  --------------------
Sorry to break the silence but in honor of Pierre Boulle I present to you
Planet of the Apes Remake HOT NEWS!
  www.americanmule.com >>

What!  I didn't see any...but Josie and The Pussycat sure look like skanks!
And where are the Cat costumes?

 

You know you really do have a talent for making a total ass out of yourself.

 

Al

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In a message dated 1/30/01 6:24:13 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< You know you really do have a talent for making a total ass out of
yourself. >>

Give's you a bigger target to kiss! What an ass of you to point it out too.
Now could someone, who is more civil, please tell me where or what the big
POTA news is, and or, why they couldn't find a Josie & Pussy Cats that don't
look like rejects from Hole . . . Now that I've made an even bigger ass of
myself for your ridiculing pleasure.

Well said Rory, Hail Pierre!!!!!!!

With a bowl of chocolate icing. Mmmmmm!!!!!!

And how about the gorilla minister at the funeral. And a casket too! A
gorilla soldier toting a machine gun and backpack. And scarecrows and upside
down crucified gorillas. And Nova in a bomb mass robe. I'll stop using "And"
now.....Go Apes, John

Thanks everyone for the heads-up on the Corona stuff. I like what I see
so far. Although I'd prefer "Nova" over "Deanna". I just think it's a cooler
name. I hear Deanna and the first thing I think of is Counselor Troi. Not
that that's a bad thing....but I digress. The Tim Roth shot is very cool.
We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed. Go Apes! Go Tim!!!! John

All great ideas - and how about some Play Sets? A full scale Ape City to
begin.......

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: JSe3689836@... [JSe3689836@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2001 13:39
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: 22 Medicom Detailed Figures

And how about the gorilla minister at the funeral. And a casket too! A
gorilla soldier toting a machine gun and backpack. And scarecrows and upside
down crucified gorillas. And Nova in a bomb mass robe. I'll stop using "And"
now.....Go Apes, John

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Now could someone, who is more civil, please tell me where or what the big
POTA news is



Dude, this link should get you straight there:

http://www.corona.bc.ca/films/details/apes.html"

Michael

.html Hey Everyone,

Check out Amazon.com.  They are listing a book that will be released in June
2001.  It's called "Planet of the Apes: An Unofficial Companion" by David
Hofstede.  It will cost $17.95.

Has anyone heard of this book before??

Rory Monteith
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http://www.timburtoncollective.com/pota_gallery..html"

Nothing we haven't already seen folks, just consolidated into one site.
Plus it's an interesting site for Burton fans.

Best,
KEN

Let's hope a few other books get published this year too...

M

Hi guys,

I found this in an old issue of Starlog. I know some of you are
pursuing the footage and though this might help.

Starlog/April 1981

" While the new package of Apes telefilms began to make its way
around the country on local TV stations, an interesting scheme was
hatched by the ABC owned and operated stations to make their
presentations a little more special and original. Roddy McDowall was
called upon to re-create his role of Galen to tape new footage for
the presentation by the ABC stations entitled "The New Planet of the
Apes"
The footage created by Fox to open each feature was scrapped and
replaced by McDowall as the now aged Galen recalling his exciting
adventures. Each "chapter" of the five part presentation open and
closed with a monologue by Galen.
This special presentation was made for the ABC owned and operated
stations and can only be seen on them (although it's possible that
ABC affiliates may get this version, it is unlikely that any
affiliates of CBS, NBC or the independents will.)

Dave B

.html Thanx Dave. YOU ROCK!

B

Dave Ballard wrote:

Hi guys,

I found this in an old issue of Starlog. I know some of you are
pursuing the footage and though this might help.

Starlog/April 1981

" While the new package of Apes telefilms began to make its way
around the country on local TV stations, an interesting scheme was
hatched by the ABC owned and operated stations to make their
presentations a little more special and original. Roddy McDowall was
called upon to re-create his role of Galen to tape new footage for
the presentation by the ABC stations entitled "The New Planet of the
Apes"
The footage created by Fox to open each feature was scrapped and
replaced by McDowall as the now aged Galen recalling his exciting
adventures. Each "chapter" of the five part presentation open and
closed with a monologue by Galen.
This special presentation was made for the ABC owned and operated
stations and can only be seen on them (although it's possible that
ABC affiliates may get this version, it is unlikely that any
affiliates of CBS, NBC or the independents will.)

Dave B

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--- In pota@y..., "Alexander Ruiz" <prophecysite@h...> wrote:

> It just keeps getting better.

Well, there's more pics, at any rate.

http://corona.bc.ca/films/filmlistingsFramed.html"

More new shots, links to new shots, first action figure pics, etc.

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> It just keeps getting better.

Well, there's more pics, at any rate.

http://corona.bc.ca/films/filmlistingsFramed.html"

More new shots, links to new shots, first action figure pics, etc.

 

 

Yeah I saw them all, I just liked that one the most.

That is Tim Burton's vision at it's best. They truley did choose the right man to direct. And no doubt from this moment on the exclusives are going to flow like a river.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Love the pic, Phil.
If I could, I'd buy two sets, and rip 'em out of their packages.
But I gotta save my pennies for the next onslaught....

Philip Nobile wrote:

> > I was bummed when I first opened my package containing the Astro-Zira
> > and found they had placed the helmet on hiding the detail (yeah, I COULD
> > open it, but I ain't).
>
> You guys are missing out. That ugly ass packaging went right into the
> trash, as these things need to be displayed alongside one another. Ursus
> only looks good with a hand raised in the air, surrounded by a couple
> soldiers. The sculpt jobs on all these figures are incredible, and
> should be appreciated in all three dimensions. They nailed Roddy's
> posture. Also, the old Addar model kits make perfect display bases for
> the figures (see pic).
>
> When you're dead and in your coffins, who cares whether or not some
> plastic figurines are mint in package? The worms won't care.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [Image]

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(Sorry, bin reading too much Steven Jay Gould atm)

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From: Mark Gould

To: pota

Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 8:43 AM

Subject: [pota] Ape FAces

With all the interesting shots of the apes on display with the new 'look' so to speak, doesn't anyone find it significant that the solution of nasal passages and vocal sinuses that characterises the human face needn't have been the only evolutional consquence. Or more bluntly - the ape faces presented in the new film could easily have been you or me.

(Sorry, bin reading too much Steven Jay Gould atm)

M

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I don't know about what you speak.

But I think Ari's hair is looking better in that shot.
I little fly away, like the gal from the Whiskas commercial.
Who knows . . . She may be walking over to the wig dept.

Hi Mez- - -

The "Liberator" was definitely shown, at least in the original U.S. run. I
remember I had a babysitter that night and she watched "Yes, Virginia, There
is a Santa Claus" on the "big" TV while I watched "The Liberator" on my TV.
I remember being bummed out because there's hardly any apes in that episode.
I got the information about the shooting from Ron Harper himself. I asked
him why, if they got to shoot one more episode after being cancelled, why
didn't do a wrap up episode? He said they held out hope for a last minute
renewal.

Anyway, that's what Ron said. Bill Blake told me that CBS yhad approached
none other than Gene Roddenberry about revamping the show, getting it closer
in line with the original films, including having a Cornelius and Zira. In
fact he liked the stage show Bill and Paula Crist did as C & Z and had them
audition in Roddenberry's home.

I can't necessarily vouch for any of this, but that's what Ron said,
that's what Bill said.

- - - - Jeff Krueger

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To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Reply


> --- In pota@y..., "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@e...> wrote:
>
> > Welcome, Mez. As to your question about "The Liberator", it WAS
> > shown during the original run of the series as far as I know, and
> > "Above the World..." was shown last (and, according to Ron Harper,
> > the latter was filmed after they had been cancelled).
>
> Thanks, Jeff. Admittedly, the swiss cheese I've got for a brain is
> hardly what I'd call reliable, but I don't recall seeing 'The
> Liberator' as a lass. (I didn't even know it existed till I moved to
> the UK.) And all US sites about the series list it as 'not aired' or
> with no air date.
>
> I've got a bee in my bonnet over this because by all accounts 'The
> Liberator' was ep 1.13 and 'Up Above' was ep 1.14, suggesting that
> was the shooting sequence. (Also supports what Ron Harper says...Do
> you know him or is that third party??)
>
> If CBS did skip 'The Liberator', I'm determined to find out why! No
> answer too mundane -- send all replies to your friendly neighborhood
> neurotic. /Mez
>
>
>
>
>

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:57 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Jeff and Ape

Yeah, I'd like to see the photo.  It might be one of those "Ape has Killed Ape" band members.

B

Well, I don't know if it's a Ape has killed Ape band member becuse the photo is titled "Meeting Jeff Krueger" no doubt a big fan of Jeff's. Perhaps Jeff can shed some light on this.

Best,

Alex

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From what I've heard those scenes were shot exclusively for ABC when they
first cut the TV shows into movies. I heard there was another group where
Roddy played regular Galen. Both will probably never be shown again but
luckily that was when VCRs were becoming common. I'm sorry to say I watched
them too but didn't bother to tape them. It never occurred to me one day I
would get "back into" POTA. But I',m sure SOMEONE has them. - - - - Jeff
Krueger

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From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Aged Galen


> Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...> wrote:
> >I wouldn't mind seeing that footage again. Has anyone ever tracked them
> >down?
>
> And if they have, how about getting it on the web! I'm dying to see this
> footage myself. The really annoying thing is that these "movies" have been
> shown countless times here in the UK but never in the "aged Galen" format,
> just the two episodes stitched together.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>

That's a hell of a job you've got there, Ken! You get paid to do what we
do here for nothing. Tell them to release the uncut "Conquest" and the uncut
"Battle" (with J. Lee Thompson audio track) pronto! - - - - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Aged Galen


> With regard to the "aged Galen" footage for the re-edited Tv movies, when
we
> were preparing the release of the TV series here, I was trying to track it
down
> to use as added value footage or bonus material ( plus I just wanted to
see
> it!). Nobody at out L.A. office was able to locate through their regular
> channels. I even contacted Kevin Burn's office ( the guy who made Behind
the
> POTA) as his team did extensive research to create that program. The reply
was
> that they didn't uncover much on the TV series in the Fox archives. So
maybe the
> Network who aired the series owns it?
> Best,
> KEN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Dumont

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 6:25 PM

Subject: [pota] Glyphs and Costumes

Actually, all of the costumes had their "glyphs" removed for BATTLE.  Most of the glyphs were kept by Western Costumes and when Fuller French bought the entire ape costume collection from Western in the early 90's, he got the boxes of glyphs in the deal. He made sure that they were paired up with the costumes once again before he sold them all off.

The only costumes that I have ever seen that never had the glyphs removed are Maurice Evan's original Zaius jacket (that one was only used in the first two films and then went into a private collection until it came our way last year) and Zaius' riding jacket from BENEATH, also still is intact.

brian

Michael Whitty wrote:

 Brian,Are there many of these original costumes around complete with glyphs?  They do not seem to be too common.Michael

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:54 AM

Subject: [pota] Cameron's Idea

You know it's very interesting to see how when Cameron wanted to do Planet of the Apes, he wanted to continue the film following BATTLE. And when one sees how this new remake comes down to a battle between ape and human according to the Fox exclusive and their logo (RULE THE PLANET). One can see that such a sequal to BATTLE could have been made. (with a few minor changes of course)

 

But I am glad that Fox did go the direction of a totaly new remake. Simply because of the fact that if one would have to see all five films to completely understand the remake, it could cause Fox to have a major bomb at the box office.

 

A very smart more by Fox to have a totaly new remake.

How interesting.

 

Best,

 

Alex 

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Alex- -

 

  Where did you hear that Cameron wanted to pick up after "Battle"? From what I heard his idea was kinda an "Escape" meets "Terminator" , with advanced apes from the future coming to modern day to end human society.

 

Yeah, that was the exact story I read a while back when Cameron was involved in the Remake. Future, Present type script and involving Schwarzenegger and so on.

But then when the story hit that Cameron walked out on Planet of the Apes, it was said that he wanted to re-write the whole script and continue the film following Battle for the Planet of the Apes. I guess Cameron felt that he had some sort of pull following his TITANIC hit, but in the end Zanuck said no. Zanuck wanted a whole new remake, revisit, rethinking or whatever else one can call it.

 

But I don't recall which website had the story, this was a while back just months before Burton took over the project.

 

Sorry I don't remember. Those were the days of the uncertain future for apes and news in those days was very hard to come by. So I realy don't recall where I picked it up. But I do recall it was on a news website which gives you a 50/50 chance if it was true or not.

 

Best,

 

Alex  

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:43 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Cameron's Idea

Alex- -

 

  Where did you hear that Cameron wanted to pick up after "Battle"? From what I heard his idea was kinda an "Escape" meets "Terminator" , with advanced apes from the future coming to modern day to end human society.

 

Yeah, that was the exact story I read a while back when Cameron was involved in the Remake. Future, Present type script and involving Schwarzenegger and so on.

But then when the story hit that Cameron walked out on Planet of the Apes, it was said that he wanted to re-write the whole script and continue the film following Battle for the Planet of the Apes. I guess Cameron felt that he had some sort of pull following his TITANIC hit, but in the end Zanuck said no. Zanuck wanted a whole new remake, revisit, rethinking or whatever else one can call it.

 

But I don't recall which website had the story, this was a while back just months before Burton took over the project.

 

Sorry I don't remember. Those were the days of the uncertain future for apes and news in those days was very hard to come by. So I realy don't recall where I picked it up. But I do recall it was on a news website which gives you a 50/50 chance if it was true or not.

 

Best,

 

Alex  

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In a message dated 2/1/01 4:53:41 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< Zanuck wanted a whole new remake, revisit, rethinking or whatever else one
can call it. >>
In a way it was a good move on their part. It certainly limits any
comparison.

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Zanuck didn't have anything to do with it. From what I've heard Cameron was long gone and Bill Mechanic just asked Bill Broyles to start fresh, forget the past ideas and come up with a new "Ape" script (this was after "Castaway" was written). He did and everybody seemed to think it was sensational. That's what attracted Burton and Zanuck came along about a month later. Now Burton has two rewriters (Burton's been quoted as saing he wouldn't know a good script if it hit him in the face). If I read Broyles' script one day and find out Burton ruined it to be an "artist" I'll hit him inthe face. You hear me, Burton? I'm coming for YOU!- - - - Jeff K.

 

Well, that makes perfect sence seeing that Cameron was to produce the film and not direct it. Just goes to show you can't believe everything you hear on the web. As for the changes, seeing what's been released so far I'd say their off to a good start. (that image of Wahlberg coming out of that forest lake is intense, God only knows what hes looking at)

Even Linda Harrison herself is saying that this script rocks!

And Heston willing to do a cameo in a film without guns? That surely does say something :o)

 

Best,

 

Alex

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<< Zanuck wanted a whole new remake, revisit, rethinking or whatever else one
can call it. >>
In a way it was a good move on their part.  It certainly limits any
comparison.

 

I agree. The POTA original films will always be on it's own platform.

As for the remake, it can't be worst than the T.V. nor Cartoon Series years ago.

Not that they were that bad, but it surely can't be worst with a good script and 100-150 million dallor buget behind it.

 

Just one way of looking at it.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Hey everyone! I am missing two POTA comics and I was wondering if anyone
would sell them to me if you have extras. They are Marvel's Adventure of the
Planet of the Apes issue #6 and the trade paperback graphic novel to Monkey
Planet. I've been waiting to get the entire set of issues before reading
them. Now with Dark Horse releasing their new Apes comics soon I really need
to read these to catch up. Email me and let me know! Thanks!

Loc
LocutusAtWolf359@...

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:32 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] New POTA book on the way.

Must say this is new to me but isn't it nice to see a new book?

 

MIchael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [mailto:Haristas@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2001 12:39
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] New POTA book on the way.

Hey Everyone,

Check out Amazon.com.  They are listing a book that will be released in June
2001.  It's called "Planet of the Apes: An Unofficial Companion" by David
Hofstede.  It will cost $17.95.

Has anyone heard of this book before??

Rory Monteith

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 3:39 PM

Subject: [pota] Remake Photo

It just keeps getting better.

Great photo!

 

Best,

 

Alex

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It's actually one hell of a job I USED to have. I resigned last week. After 16
years in Home Ent, I need some new challenges. Timing's a bummer as I now won't
get to work on the video release of new film.
Believe me, I have alerted the "powers that be" to the existence of the extended
version of "Battle", but it hasn't been acted upon ....yet.

Jack Krueger wrote:

> That's a hell of a job you've got there, Ken! You get paid to do what we
> do here for nothing. Tell them to release the uncut "Conquest" and the uncut
> "Battle" (with J. Lee Thompson audio track) pronto! - - - - Jeff K.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken & Heather Taylor" <kentaylor@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 1:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [pota] Aged Galen
>
> > With regard to the "aged Galen" footage for the re-edited Tv movies, when
> we
> > were preparing the release of the TV series here, I was trying to track it
> down
> > to use as added value footage or bonus material ( plus I just wanted to
> see
> > it!). Nobody at out L.A. office was able to locate through their regular
> > channels. I even contacted Kevin Burn's office ( the guy who made Behind
> the
> > POTA) as his team did extensive research to create that program. The reply
> was
> > that they didn't uncover much on the TV series in the Fox archives. So
> maybe the
> > Network who aired the series owns it?
> > Best,
> > KEN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Astro Taylor has landed on Ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1407730009

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Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

Astro Taylor has landed on Ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1407730009

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Dumont

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 6:22 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Medicom

FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!!!

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

Astro Taylor has landed on Ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1407730009

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Hi gang...

Well, as promised here is the first update on the spaceship project that
thanks to the plans sent in by Dave Ballard, is now beginning.

I have the 12" Col. Taylor, and I wanted to use this scale for the ship.
This works out to approximately 0.5 inches to the foot (Charlton Heston was
actually 6'2" tall, but I decided to leave the two inches off). Since the
actual ship (Lake Powell) was 45 feet in length, this means that my model
will be 90 inches in length and about 21 inches at its tallest part. I am
also making some additional drawings based upon the wreckage of "Beneath"
episode, which was the actual entire ship (this part was left off in POTA
since it was assumed that it would not be seen as it would be completely
under water). I have started with the capsule part first, and I will be
cutting the framework this weekend.

As soon as I can get pics done I will send them out.

Larry

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FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!!!

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

Astro Taylor has landed on Ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1407730009

 

Or more like:

NOW...FIGHT LIKE APES!!!

But all kidding aside, If I ever do clash with anyone here on the e-group over an e-bay auction. I just want to say in advance, nothing personal guys and gals.

Buy it now: is never a problem, but week old auctions can get a little out of hand sometimes. Which is why don't bid until final closing.

Happy hunting guys and gals and good luck too us all. Time to go sell my house to afford those medicoms!

Best,

Alex

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Please, answer me: who's David Hofstede?

Adami

Jack Krueger escreveu:

  This guy interviewed me for his book. There's about 7 unofficial books coming out this summer about "Apes". Invest in glasses. - - - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 11:32 PM

Subject: RE: [pota] New POTA book on the way.

 Must say this is new to me but isn't it nice to see a new book?MIchael 

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [mailto:Haristas@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2001 12:39
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] New POTA book on the way.

Hey Everyone,

Check out Amazon.com.  They are listing a book that will be released in June
2001.  It's called "Planet of the Apes: An Unofficial Companion" by David
Hofstede.  It will cost $17.95.

Has anyone heard of this book before??

Rory Monteith
 

 

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I was Cornelius for a day! Thanks to Jeff Krueger and Bill Blake!

Adami

Jack Krueger escreveu:

  Hi Alex, Brian- - -   That is me with Luiz Adami. He came here to California from Brazil to work on an "Apes" book and Bill Blake turned him into Apedami. That picture was taken at Malibu Creek State Park, where the originals were filmed. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 9:57 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Jeff and Ape

 

Yeah, I'd like to see the photo.  It might be one of those "Ape has Killed Ape" band members.

B

Well, I don't know if it's a Ape has killed Ape band member becuse the photo is titled "Meeting Jeff Krueger" no doubt a big fan of Jeff's. Perhaps Jeff can shed some light on this.

Best,

Alex

 

 

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Hi fans,
Can you tell me any good web sites dedicated to the new Planet Of The
Apes movie due out in the U.S. in July?
Please e-mail me,I would appreciate it.
Thanks

<< Since the actual ship (Lake Powell) was 45 feet in length, this means that
my model will be 90 inches in length and about 21 inches at its tallest part.
I am
also making some additional drawings based upon the wreckage of "Beneath"
episode, which was the actual entire ship (this part was left off in POTA
since it was assumed that it would not be seen as it would be completely
under water). >>

What about Escape? They had the whole thing out of the water. You see the
entire ship there.

"What about Escape? They had the whole thing out of the water. You see the
entire ship there."

Which brings us to another point, Is the ship in "Escape" the same as the one in
"Planet"? The hatch is in a different position and it doesn't appear to be as big
as the ship seen in "Planet". The "Escape" ship certainly looks to be the same as
the one used in the TV series pilot.

Best,
KEN

.html Hey Guys,

I just had to  chime in here.  They only built one full size Ick.  Contact Phil Broad, who is the last known model maker to have extensively foto-documeneted the ship <http://icarus.simplenet.com/> he has a whole series of pages on his site with FANTASTIC photos that he personally took of the ship while it was sitting on FOX's backlot.

Brian

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

"What about Escape?  They had the whole thing out of the water.  You see the
entire ship there."

Which brings us to another point, Is the ship in "Escape" the same as the one in
"Planet"? The hatch is in a different position and it doesn't appear to be as big
as the ship seen in "Planet". The "Escape" ship certainly looks to be the same as
the one used in the TV series pilot.

Best,
KEN

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.html I know this is a silly question, but does this model builder (I'm sorry I don't know who's building it) have original blueprints?  If not, we can help.

Brian

LordTZer0@... wrote:

<< Since the actual ship (Lake Powell) was 45 feet in length, this means that
my model will be 90 inches in length and about 21 inches at its tallest part.
 I am
 also making some additional drawings based upon the wreckage of "Beneath"
 episode, which was the actual entire ship (this part was left off in POTA
 since it was assumed that it would not be seen as it would be completely
 under water). >>

What about Escape?  They had the whole thing out of the water.  You see the
entire ship there.

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That's a cool site. It must have been the way it was shot that makes the ship look bigger in "Planet" vs. "Escape".

Best,
KEN

Brian Dumont wrote:

 Hey Guys,

I just had to  chime in here.  They only built one full size Ick.  Contact Phil Broad, who is the last known model maker to have extensively foto-documeneted the ship <http://icarus.simplenet.com/> he has a whole series of pages on his site with FANTASTIC photos that he personally took of the ship while it was sitting on FOX's backlot.

Brian

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

"What about Escape?  They had the whole thing out of the water.  You see the
entire ship there."

Which brings us to another point, Is the ship in "Escape" the same as the one in
"Planet"? The hatch is in a different position and it doesn't appear to be as big
as the ship seen in "Planet". The "Escape" ship certainly looks to be the same as
the one used in the TV series pilot.

Best,
KEN

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Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

 Yeah Brian,
That's a cool site. It must have been the way it was shot that makes the ship look bigger in "Planet" vs. "Escape".

Best,
KEN

Brian Dumont wrote:

 Hey Guys,

I just had to  chime in here.  They only built one full size Ick.  Contact Phil Broad, who is the last known model maker to have extensively foto-documeneted the ship <http://icarus.simplenet.com/> he has a whole series of pages on his site with FANTASTIC photos that he personally took of the ship while it was sitting on FOX's backlot.

Brian

Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

"What about Escape?  They had the whole thing out of the water.  You see the
entire ship there."

Which brings us to another point, Is the ship in "Escape" the same as the one in
"Planet"? The hatch is in a different position and it doesn't appear to be as big
as the ship seen in "Planet". The "Escape" ship certainly looks to be the same as
the one used in the TV series pilot.

Best,
KEN

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Thank you very much!

Please, when you to find another PLANET OF THE APES informations from New Zealand newspapers, please, send to our THE APE HOUSE, in Brazil:

LUIZ SAULO ADAMI Caixa postal 496 Brusque, SC  88350-970 BRAZIL E-mail: tinarosa@...

Do you have our book, O ÚNICO HUMANO BOM É AQUELE QUE ESTÁ MORTO! ? (to you: THE ONLY GOOD HUMAN IS A DEAD HUMAN!), about PLANET OF THE APES universe?

Bye for now,

Adami

Galen H escreveu:

 This appeared in the New Zealand Herald today ( 3rd Feb 2001 ).Interesting piece of reading I thought. 

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This appeared in the New Zealand Herald today ( 3rd Feb 2001 ).

Interesting piece of reading I thought.

 

Great Article there Galen!

I'll use it for the site, but in the future try not uploading such a huge 400kb file to the group, for I'm sure that those who run on 56k would take a while to download. Try keeping any uploads to 30kb or less. If not use a link to the image.

For me it's no problem I have Cable Access, but I'v heard those on 56k on the group complain before on huge files.

 

But again great article, I'll use it.

Thanks

 

Alex

 

 

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Us in the UK have to pay for our calls. Please keep emails to small sizes.

M

From: "Galen H" <galen70@...>
Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:20:02 +1300
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] N.Z. newspaper article

This appeared in the New Zealand Herald today ( 3rd Feb 2001 ).
Interesting piece of reading I thought.

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A heads-up for all in the tri-state NYC area. Fox 5 has an episode of
the Simpsons on 2/3/01 at 7:30pm. It opens with a take-off on The Hunt scene,
as only the Simpsons can do. Check it out, John

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     A heads-up for all in the tri-state NYC area. Fox 5 has an episode of
the Simpsons on 2/3/01 at 7:30pm. It opens with a take-off on The Hunt scene,
as only the Simpsons can do.   Check it out, John.

 

 

Bart and Milhouse are banned for life from a comic-book store, until Comic Book Guy becomes a man in need of friends.

 

John is this the episode that will have that opening scene?

This is the description on my cable guide set to air at on Sunday 8:00 PM here in Florida.

Check and see what the description in your local guide says. I would love to post this episode scene on my site for all to see.

And if not run me a copy and I'll post it for everyone.

 

Or anyone else living the NY area:

 

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Hey Alex, the description in TV Guide says Bart falls for Rev Lovejoy's
daughter. I believe she is voiced by Meryl Streep. But I remeber it opens
with the adults hunting down the children, capturing them & bringing them to
church. Great bit with Nelson looking off into the distance a la Taylor when
the rams' horn sounds. Marge ridin' a horse like Marcus. It's pretty funny.
Go Apes......John

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     Hey Alex, the description in TV Guide says Bart falls for Rev Lovejoy's
daughter. I believe she is voiced by Meryl Streep. But I remeber it opens
with the adults hunting down the children, capturing them & bringing them to
church. Great bit with Nelson looking off into the distance a la Taylor when
the rams' horn sounds. Marge ridin' a horse like Marcus. It's pretty funny.  
Go Apes......John.

 

 

I see what you mean...that is funny.

You would no doubt have to be a POTA fan to catch on to the meaning behind that bit.

The Simpson writers are no doubt Ape fans as there have been many bits such as that on the show.

 

Using a church of all things to reflect a POTA hunt.

hehehe!!

 

Best,

 

Alex

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My bad. It wasn't Marge riding the horse, it was Mr. Milhouse!! Great
bit with the net drag. Yeah, the people behind the Simpsons are definitely
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Hi gang...

Well, as promised here is the first update on the spaceship project that
thanks to the plans sent in by Dave Ballard, is now beginning.

I have the 12" Col. Taylor, and I wanted to use this scale for the ship.
This works out to approximately 0.5 inches to the foot (Charlton Heston was
actually 6'2" tall, but I decided to leave the two inches off).  Since the
actual ship (Lake Powell) was 45 feet in length, this means that my model
will be 90 inches in length and about 21 inches at its tallest part.  I am
also making some additional drawings based upon the wreckage of "Beneath"
episode, which was the actual entire ship (this part was left off in POTA
since it was assumed that it would not be seen as it would be completely
under water).   I have started with the capsule part first, and I will be
cutting the framework this weekend.

As soon as I can get pics done I will send them out.

Larry

 

Sounds great Larry.

Send those pics when finished and I'll post them on the site.

So in the meantime just jam out to the CD I sent you and let those creative juices flow baby! yeah!

 

Best,

 

Alex

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