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Group: pota Message: 3903 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/5/2001
Subject: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3904 From: Phil Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3905 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3906 From: Phil Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3907 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3908 From: Rick Becker Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3909 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3910 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3911 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
Group: pota Message: 3912 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3913 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
Group: pota Message: 3914 From: Phil Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3915 From: Phil Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
Group: pota Message: 3916 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3917 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
Group: pota Message: 3918 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: POTA Fonts
Group: pota Message: 3919 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
Group: pota Message: 3920 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Doorknocker? Little help?
Group: pota Message: 3921 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: Doorknocker? Little help?
Group: pota Message: 3922 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Workshop fotos
Group: pota Message: 3923 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
Group: pota Message: 3924 From: Kurt.Martin Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: Taylor's Spaceship Project Update
Group: pota Message: 3925 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
Group: pota Message: 3926 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
Group: pota Message: 3927 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
Group: pota Message: 3928 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
Group: pota Message: 3929 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
Group: pota Message: 3930 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
Group: pota Message: 3931 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
Group: pota Message: 3932 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Doorknocker? Little help?
Group: pota Message: 3933 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
Group: pota Message: 3934 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
Group: pota Message: 3935 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
Group: pota Message: 3936 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Crucifixions
Group: pota Message: 3937 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Doorknocker? Little help?
Group: pota Message: 3938 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Crucifixions
Group: pota Message: 3939 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3940 From: Phil Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Doorknocker? Little help?
Group: pota Message: 3941 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3942 From: Dave Ballard Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3943 From: Debiortho@aol.com Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: (no subject)
Group: pota Message: 3944 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3945 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Larry Montgomery
Group: pota Message: 3946 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3947 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
Group: pota Message: 3948 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: 29th Scroll display
Group: pota Message: 3949 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
Group: pota Message: 3950 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
Group: pota Message: 3951 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3952 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Alexander Ruiz
Group: pota Message: 3953 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: God I love your job Brian
Group: pota Message: 3954 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3955 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Taylor's Spaceship Project Update
Group: pota Message: 3956 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: POTA marvel magazines
Group: pota Message: 3957 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3958 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
Group: pota Message: 3959 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: POTA marvel magazines
Group: pota Message: 3960 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3961 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3962 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
Group: pota Message: 3963 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Happy 33rd PLANET OF THE APES!
Group: pota Message: 3964 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: Happy 33rd PLANET OF THE APES!
Group: pota Message: 3965 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/7/2001
Subject: kim hunter.com
Group: pota Message: 3966 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Terry Hoknes - bio
Group: pota Message: 3967 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3968 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: webstuff
Group: pota Message: 3969 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: webstuff
Group: pota Message: 3970 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: Happy 33rd PLANET OF THE APES!
Group: pota Message: 3971 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: webstuff
Group: pota Message: 3972 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: webstuff
Group: pota Message: 3973 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: kim hunter.com
Group: pota Message: 3974 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: kim hunter.com
Group: pota Message: 3975 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: webstuff
Group: pota Message: 3976 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Ape Man's Burden (bio)
Group: pota Message: 3977 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Trailer
Group: pota Message: 3978 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: e-bay
Group: pota Message: 3979 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: For Lord T...
Group: pota Message: 3980 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: Ape Man's Burden (bio)
Group: pota Message: 3981 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: For Lord T...
Group: pota Message: 3982 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: kim hunter.com
Group: pota Message: 3983 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: e-bay
Group: pota Message: 3984 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Hunter becomes the hunted
Group: pota Message: 3985 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: What's in a name.com?
Group: pota Message: 3986 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: Heston to appear in THE LAST MAN CLUB
Group: pota Message: 3987 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Giving "Apes" a "Fair" shake
Group: pota Message: 3988 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: e-bay
Group: pota Message: 3989 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
Group: pota Message: 3990 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Who am I?
Group: pota Message: 3991 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: "Fair" warning
Group: pota Message: 3992 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: e-bay
Group: pota Message: 3993 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: "Fair" warning
Group: pota Message: 3994 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: Hunter becomes the hunted
Group: pota Message: 3995 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
Subject: Re: Who am I?
Group: pota Message: 3996 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2001
Subject: Re: Giving "Apes" a "Fair" shake
Group: pota Message: 3997 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2001
Subject: Re: Ape Man's Burden (bio)
Group: pota Message: 3998 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/9/2001
Subject: Re: Who am I?
Group: pota Message: 3999 From: Mark Gould Date: 2/9/2001
Subject: Bio
Group: pota Message: 4000 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/9/2001
Subject: Trailer
Group: pota Message: 4001 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 2/9/2001
Subject: Re: e-bay
Group: pota Message: 4002 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/9/2001
Subject: Collectibles - toys



Group: pota Message: 3903 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/5/2001
Subject: New Medicoms on E-bay
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New Medicoms on E-bay!
New batch up for auction.
 
Taylor Astronaut/Caesar/Caesar's Land Ape
 
Get'em while there HOT!
I've got mine already, expensive but what the hell. You only live once.
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 3904 From: Phil Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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The guy will only accept a wire transfer, and he doesn't have actual
pics? Careful . . .
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Group: pota Message: 3905 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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I can vouch for Julian.  He does deliver, albeit a little slow at times, but he does deliver.

Brian

Phil wrote:

The guy will only accept a wire transfer, and he doesn't have actual
pics?  Careful . . .

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Group: pota Message: 3906 From: Phil Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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Didn't mean to disparage a friend of Brian's, just thought it was a
situation in which one should ask questions first.

Anyone HAVE these figures yet? Thought Astro Milo and Cornelius were
supposed to be next.

--- In pota@y..., Brian Dumont <afryt4u@e...> wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> I can vouch for Julian. He does deliver, albeit a little slow at
times,
> but he does deliver.
>
> Brian
>
> Phil wrote:
>
> > The guy will only accept a wire transfer, and he doesn't have
actual
> > pics? Careful . . .
> >
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Group: pota Message: 3907 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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Hey Gang,

I can vouch for Julian.  He does deliver, albeit a little slow at times, but he does deliver.

Brian

 

Thanks for that confirmation Brian.

Those medicoms look great! I just received Nova with Zira Astronaut now on the way. Felix screwed up on shippment but all has been cleared, nice guy by the way. And I see what you mean about not wanting to open the packages. These things are so cool. Although I think the current releases are the better detailed ones. From Nova, Zira Astro, Taylor, Caesar and so on.

Best,

Alex

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Group: pota Message: 3908 From: Rick Becker Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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I have the Nova one...it's sweet.

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil [mailto:pjn1209@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:34 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: New Medicoms on E-bay


Didn't mean to disparage a friend of Brian's, just thought it was a
situation in which one should ask questions first.

Anyone HAVE these figures yet?  Thought Astro Milo and Cornelius were
supposed to be next.

--- In pota@y..., Brian Dumont <afryt4u@e...> wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> I can vouch for Julian.  He does deliver, albeit a little slow at
times,
> but he does deliver.
>
> Brian
>
> Phil wrote:
>
> > The guy will only accept a wire transfer, and he doesn't have
actual
> > pics?  Careful . . .
> >


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Group: pota Message: 3909 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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My sentiments exactly Phil - this might explain why so slow if he pre-sells
this far in advance!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil [pjn1209@...]


Anyone HAVE these figures yet? Thought Astro Milo and Cornelius were
supposed to be next.
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Group: pota Message: 3910 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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My sentiments exactly Phil - this might explain why so slow if he pre-sells
this far in advance!

Michael
 
Dude, I think the reason why he can PRE-SELL them is because he lives in HONG KONG.
And they do release them there before dealers in america can get their little ape hands on them :o)
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 3911 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
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Brian
 
I am considering writing an article on Planet of the Apes collectibles in parts beginning with models/statues/busts.
 
I have all the Addar kits, Addar Bottle scenes, Polar Lights re-releases (I am looking for scans of the promotional posters for these if anyone has them - Alex, how about that eBay CD?).  I have some original ads from the Curtis Magazines, but anyone with any othere promo stuff or ads please let me know!!!  I also have the Spaceship (ANSA) model kit.
 
Apemania makes costumes (of course I'll be wanting to cover them in the future), masks (ditto) and figural busts/statues (including a doorknocker and that kick ass Santa).  Am I forgetting anything?
 
Can you provide me with links to all (even - and PARTICULARLY - for those no longer for sale) the figural busts/statues and doorknocker/Santa plus anything I might have missed with a story if applicable and prices, availability (again even for those no longer for sale to give the reader an idea of what they DID cost).
 
Could the rest of the group try to help me by compiling a list/links of other POTA knock offs/garage kits/ models in this category I may have missed (the Icarrus spring to mind and I know there are many statues around, official and otherwise, including the Cornelius in thinker pose).
 
The final product is destined to be published in Simian Scrolls, the Planet of the Apes UK Fanzine, and I want this article to cover EVERYTHING, unlike the other attempts that have been published.
 
As I cover each specific category I will send out to the group for more information.
 
Michael (from Down Under - where they release the TV Series on video!!).
 

 


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Group: pota Message: 3912 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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I know that Alex, a friend of mine sends them to me as they are released and he told me this month will see 3 astronauts and a Lawgiver - time will tell.
 
Michael
 
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From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 7:57
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: New Medicoms on E-bay

My sentiments exactly Phil - this might explain why so slow if he pre-sells
this far in advance!

Michael
 
Dude, I think the reason why he can PRE-SELL them is because he lives in HONG KONG.
And they do release them there before dealers in america can get their little ape hands on them :o)
 
Best,
 
Alex

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Group: pota Message: 3913 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
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Hey and maybe I should add the money boxes to this section too - THOUGHTS ANYONE?
 
Michael
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty [whitty@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 8:05
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.

Brian
 
I am considering writing an article on Planet of the Apes collectibles in parts beginning with models/statues/busts.
 
I have all the Addar kits, Addar Bottle scenes, Polar Lights re-releases (I am looking for scans of the promotional posters for these if anyone has them - Alex, how about that eBay CD?).  I have some original ads from the Curtis Magazines, but anyone with any othere promo stuff or ads please let me know!!!  I also have the Spaceship (ANSA) model kit.
 
Apemania makes costumes (of course I'll be wanting to cover them in the future), masks (ditto) and figural busts/statues (including a doorknocker and that kick ass Santa).  Am I forgetting anything?
 
Can you provide me with links to all (even - and PARTICULARLY - for those no longer for sale) the figural busts/statues and doorknocker/Santa plus anything I might have missed with a story if applicable and prices, availability (again even for those no longer for sale to give the reader an idea of what they DID cost).
 
Could the rest of the group try to help me by compiling a list/links of other POTA knock offs/garage kits/ models in this category I may have missed (the Icarrus spring to mind and I know there are many statues around, official and otherwise, including the Cornelius in thinker pose).
 
The final product is destined to be published in Simian Scrolls, the Planet of the Apes UK Fanzine, and I want this article to cover EVERYTHING, unlike the other attempts that have been published.
 
As I cover each specific category I will send out to the group for more information.
 
Michael (from Down Under - where they release the TV Series on video!!).
 

 



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Group: pota Message: 3914 From: Phil Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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--- In pota@y..., Rick Becker <rick@g...> wrote:
> I have the Nova one...it's sweet.

Sure is, though she's the least articulated out of all of them. I was
curous about whether anyone had the wave Julian was auctioning -
Caesar, slave gorilla and astro Taylor . . .

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil [pjn1209@e...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:34 PM
> To: pota@y...
> Subject: [pota] Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
>
>
> Didn't mean to disparage a friend of Brian's, just thought it was a
> situation in which one should ask questions first.
>
> Anyone HAVE these figures yet? Thought Astro Milo and Cornelius
were
> supposed to be next.
>
> --- In pota@y..., Brian Dumont <afryt4u@e...> wrote:
> > Hey Gang,
> >
> > I can vouch for Julian. He does deliver, albeit a little slow at
> times,
> > but he does deliver.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > Phil wrote:
> >
> > > The guy will only accept a wire transfer, and he doesn't have
> actual
> > > pics? Careful . . .
> > >
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Group: pota Message: 3915 From: Phil Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
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--- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Brian
> >
> Apemania makes costumes (of course I'll be wanting to cover them in
the
> future), masks (ditto) and figural busts/statues (including a
doorknocker
> and that kick ass Santa).

Doorknocker? Little help?
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Group: pota Message: 3916 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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I know that Alex, a friend of mine sends them to me as they are released and he told me this month will see 3 astronauts and a Lawgiver - time will tell.
 
Michael
 
 
I guess so, If I do get them I'll be sure to let you know.
Send me your mailing address and I'll send you a copy of the Picture CD that  Kurt sent me.
 
I'll also include the POTA videos I made.
Which reminds me I'll be sending Kurt my POTA videos as well.
With the new trailer I've just made on the remake that come out to about 7 of them I believe. 5 original music videos and 2 remake trailers. Sorry Terry and Dave, the second remake trailer was made after I sent you guys the CD.
 
If anyone wants this as well just e-mail me your request, and I'll burn all of these babies in one shot. (make the Cds)
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 3917 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: New Medicoms on E-bay
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.html Cool.  Glad to know that the DEALER list is working for people.  Anyone else with success or horror stories with MEDICOM dealers?

One of the Aussie dealers told me that the only way that they were getting the figures was by getting the overstock from stores in Japan.  The figures that don't sell get offered up to the foreign buyers, only after interest has weaned in the Japanese market.

brian

Alexander Ruiz wrote:

Hey Gang,

I can vouch for Julian.  He does deliver, albeit a little slow at times, but he does deliver.

Brian
 
 

Thanks for that confirmation Brian.

Those medicoms look great! I just received Nova with Zira Astronaut now on the way. Felix screwed up on shippment but all has been cleared, nice guy by the way. And I see what you mean about not wanting to open the packages. These things are so cool. Although I think the current releases are the better detailed ones. From Nova, Zira Astro, Taylor, Caesar and so on.

Best,

Alex


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Group: pota Message: 3918 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: POTA Fonts
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Say does anyone here know where to get POTA fonts?
I would like to use those on my site.
 
Best,
 
Alex
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Group: pota Message: 3919 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
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    Michael Whitty wrote:

    Brian
     
    I am considering writing an article on Planet of the Apes collectibles in parts beginning with models/statues/busts.
     
    I have all the Addar kits, Addar Bottle scenes, Polar Lights re-releases (I am looking for scans of the promotional posters for these if anyone has them - Alex, how about that eBay CD?).  I have some original ads from the Curtis Magazines, but anyone with any othere promo stuff or ads please let me know!!!  I also have the
    Spaceship (ANSA) model kit.
     
    Apemania makes costumes (of course I'll be wanting to cover them in the future), masks (ditto) and figural busts/statues (including a doorknocker and that kick ass Santa).  Am I forgetting anything?

     
    Can you provide me with links to all (even - and PARTICULARLY - for those no longer for sale) the figural busts/statues and doorknocker/Santa plus anything I might have missed with a story if applicable and prices, availability (again even for those no longer for sale to give the reader an idea of what they DID cost).
    • you can start at the MERCHANDISE pages <http://apemania.com/merch/merchandise.htm>
    • I believe the SANTA sold for just under $400 (we'll have a few more holiday surprizes up this summer)
    • the door knocker (resin version) went for $150, the BRONZE alloy for $400


    I hope this helps!

    Brian

     

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    Group: pota Message: 3920 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
    Subject: Doorknocker? Little help?
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      .html Here's a photo of the Gold Plated resin version.  The bronze version looks similar but is entirely cast in metal.

      Brian

      Phil wrote:

      --- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
      > Brian
      > >
      > Apemania makes costumes (of course I'll be wanting to cover them in
      the
      > future), masks (ditto) and figural busts/statues (including a
      doorknocker
      > and that kick ass Santa).

      Doorknocker? Little help?

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      Group: pota Message: 3921 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
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      Here's a photo of the Gold Plated resin version.  The bronze version looks similar but is entirely cast in metal.

      Brian

       

      Wow Brian, that's some studio you have there.

      Ever thought of making a section on your site on Apemania Behind the scenes?

      That would be one cool addition to your site.

      Best,

      Alex

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      Group: pota Message: 3922 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/6/2001
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      .html Yeah, we call it home.

      We do have a few hidden "workshop photos" posted as "treats" for those fans daring enough to find their way around on the site.  Just like one of the group found the Under Construction arts a few weeks ago.

      We are building workshop pages as we speak though.  Along with everything else.

      B

      Alexander Ruiz wrote:

      Wow Brian, that's some studio you have there.

      Ever thought of making a section on your site on Apemania Behind the scenes?

      That would be one cool addition to your site.

      Best,

      Alex

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      Group: pota Message: 3923 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/6/2001
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      Well here we go again!
      Battle for the Planet of the Apes Caesar Medicom!
      Just go to ebay.com and type "Caesar Medicom". (sorry I didn't want to type out that whole link)
      And this one is from a "New York Dealer".
       
      Try telling him that the three astronauts and Lawgiver come first Mike. :o)
       
      Best,
       
      Alex 
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      Group: pota Message: 3924 From: Kurt.Martin Date: 2/6/2001
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      Hey Alex -

      Just delurking a moment to say a big "yer welcome" for
      that picture disk again. My computer went off to the doctor
      just after my last note down your way and just returned a couple
      of days back.

      Anyhow, I'm still spinning your MP3 disk pretty loudly every time
      the wife goes out.

      I'd noticed a few months back that all those cool black & whites
      of the Icarus ship had gone from that site (one Saturday morning,
      when I went back looking for more - natch :-) )
      Glad to hear you're thinking of putting some from that disk on
      the prophecysite.

      As for that cool Escape script... I don't have the Marvel
      magazines anymore (sigh....) but as I recall the adaptation,
      I think it followed this version pretty closely.

      catch ya later
      Kurt





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      Group: pota Message: 3925 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2001
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      Thanks Alex!  I'll certainly lodge my protest to him! :-)
       
      Michael
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 10:30
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar

      Well here we go again!
      Battle for the Planet of the Apes Caesar Medicom!
      Just go to ebay.com and type "Caesar Medicom". (sorry I didn't want to type out that whole link)
      And this one is from a "New York Dealer".
       
      Try telling him that the three astronauts and Lawgiver come first Mike. :o)
       
      Best,
       
      Alex 

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      Group: pota Message: 3926 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
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      .html Jee-Wizz!!!  Hang on a moment folks!  How do WE know that they will release certain characters first?  Does any of us (present company excluded) have direct connections with Medicom?  Or are we just guessing which ones will be next?

      Several of my sources have already purchased the Taylor Astronaut, Caesar, and Caesar's Land (Conquest) gorilla figures as well as the 2 rare versions (one per box).  Mine are en-route to me as we speak.

      I think we should all just settle down a bit before we start attacking the very vendors to whom we seek help in obtaining these treasures.
      If they say they have certain figures, give them the benefit of the doubt before you start casting stones.  Pick up the phone and call them.  E-mail them.  Knock on their doors!  But don't condemn them because you heard from someone somewhere that a different figure will be released before another.

      Please remember that MEDICOM told me directly that they do not distribute to markets outside of Japan.  Therefore these dealers either make the hop over there themselves or have buyers in Japan that purchase what's left when they hit the stores.  Many of the more popular items will sell out first, leaving the overseas vendors to scrounge for the scraps.

      So keep your shirts on, will you, and contact the dealers for comment if you are in doubt.  Besides, before you know it, ALL of the figures will be ALL over bay, with no-one bidding on them at all.  (look at what's going on with the first series figures now.  It's pretty darn quiet.)

      I'm just saying, stop all the speculation and accusations before you have all of the facts, from the real sources.

      Enough.

      Brian

      Michael Whitty wrote:

       Thanks Alex!  I'll certainly lodge my protest to him! :-) Michael 
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 10:30
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
       
      Well here we go again!Battle for the Planet of the Apes Caesar Medicom!Just go to ebay.com and type "Caesar Medicom". (sorry I didn't want to type out that whole link)And this one is from a "New York Dealer". Try telling him that the three astronauts and Lawgiver come first Mike. :o) Best, Alex



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      Group: pota Message: 3927 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 2/7/2001
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      .html hey Brian,
      What are the "2 rare versions (one per box)"?
      Are they color variants or what?
      Thanks,
      KEN

      Brian Dumont wrote:

       Jee-Wizz!!!  Hang on a moment folks!  How do WE know that they will release certain characters first?  Does any of us (present company excluded) have direct connections with Medicom?  Or are we just guessing which ones will be next?

      Several of my sources have already purchased the Taylor Astronaut, Caesar, and Caesar's Land (Conquest) gorilla figures as well as the 2 rare versions (one per box).  Mine are en-route to me as we speak.

      I think we should all just settle down a bit before we start attacking the very vendors to whom we seek help in obtaining these treasures.
      If they say they have certain figures, give them the benefit of the doubt before you start casting stones.  Pick up the phone and call them.  E-mail them.  Knock on their doors!  But don't condemn them because you heard from someone somewhere that a different figure will be released before another.

      Please remember that MEDICOM told me directly that they do not distribute to markets outside of Japan.  Therefore these dealers either make the hop over there themselves or have buyers in Japan that purchase what's left when they hit the stores.  Many of the more popular items will sell out first, leaving the overseas vendors to scrounge for the scraps.

      So keep your shirts on, will you, and contact the dealers for comment if you are in doubt.  Besides, before you know it, ALL of the figures will be ALL over bay, with no-one bidding on them at all.  (look at what's going on with the first series figures now.  It's pretty darn quiet.)

      I'm just saying, stop all the speculation and accusations before you have all of the facts, from the real sources.

      Enough.

      Brian

      Michael Whitty wrote:

       Thanks Alex!  I'll certainly lodge my protest to him! :-) Michael
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 10:30
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
       
      Well here we go again!Battle for the Planet of the Apes Caesar Medicom!Just go to ebay.com and type "Caesar Medicom". (sorry I didn't want to type out that whole link)And this one is from a "New York Dealer". Try telling him that the three astronauts and Lawgiver come first Mike. :o) Best, Alex
       

       
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      Group: pota Message: 3928 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
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      << Apemania makes costumes (of course I'll be wanting to cover them in the
      future), masks (ditto) and figural busts/statues (including a doorknocker
      and that kick ass Santa). Am I forgetting anything? >>

      Yes! Someday the lifesized Zira will be mine . . . Oh yes, she will be mine.
      Props to Wayne Campbell. Does anyone know if they ever finished the bust?
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      Group: pota Message: 3929 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
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      Brian
       
      I hope you don't think I was attacking anyone.
       
      I was just agreeing that the informaton I got was that the 3 Astronauts and the Lawgiver were the next to be released then I added in jest that if my information is correct then it would explain why the dealer mentioned was, in your words, "A bit slow".
       
      I also jested to Alex that I shall protest to the aforementioned New York Dealer for selling the apes I thought were not yet released because this seems to be evidence that my source is unreliable.  I'm not serious.  I'm wrong sometimes too.
       
      Michael
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Dumont [afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 17:45
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar

      Jee-Wizz!!!  Hang on a moment folks!  How do WE know that they will release certain characters first?  Does any of us (present company excluded) have direct connections with Medicom?  Or are we just guessing which ones will be next?

      Several of my sources have already purchased the Taylor Astronaut, Caesar, and Caesar's Land (Conquest) gorilla figures as well as the 2 rare versions (one per box).  Mine are en-route to me as we speak.

      I think we should all just settle down a bit before we start attacking the very vendors to whom we seek help in obtaining these treasures.
      If they say they have certain figures, give them the benefit of the doubt before you start casting stones.  Pick up the phone and call them.  E-mail them.  Knock on their doors!  But don't condemn them because you heard from someone somewhere that a different figure will be released before another.

      Please remember that MEDICOM told me directly that they do not distribute to markets outside of Japan.  Therefore these dealers either make the hop over there themselves or have buyers in Japan that purchase what's left when they hit the stores.  Many of the more popular items will sell out first, leaving the overseas vendors to scrounge for the scraps.

      So keep your shirts on, will you, and contact the dealers for comment if you are in doubt.  Besides, before you know it, ALL of the figures will be ALL over bay, with no-one bidding on them at all.  (look at what's going on with the first series figures now.  It's pretty darn quiet.)

      I'm just saying, stop all the speculation and accusations before you have all of the facts, from the real sources.

      Enough.

      Brian

      Michael Whitty wrote:

       Thanks Alex!  I'll certainly lodge my protest to him! :-) Michael 
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 10:30
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
      Well here we go again!Battle for the Planet of the Apes Caesar Medicom!Just go to ebay.com and type "Caesar Medicom". (sorry I didn't want to type out that whole link)And this one is from a "New York Dealer". Try telling him that the three astronauts and Lawgiver come first Mike. :o) Best, Alex



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      Group: pota Message: 3930 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
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      Well put, I'll need to add the lifesize models with costumes too.

      Anyone want to suggest various ways one could categorise collectibles?

      I guess you could go by company, but that really is not how I want to go - I
      would rather go with major headings and sub-headings. Eg:

      FIGURAL:

      (1) Model Kits - Official;
      - Knock off;
      (2) Busts;
      (3) Statues;
      (4) Full size Mannequins;
      (5) Ahi;
      (6) Hasbro;
      (7) Commonwealth Toy and Noveltty Co;
      (8) Mego;
      (9) Medicom;
      (10) A Bathing Ape;
      (11) Apemania

      MASKS:

      (1) Don Post;
      (2) Apemania;
      (3) Prosthetics and Make Up Kits

      PAPER GOODS:

      (1) Comics;
      (2) Novels;
      (3) Publications;
      (4) Posters;
      (5) Related Magazines;
      (6) Lobby Cards;
      (7) Promotional Newspapers.

      All suggestions well received

      Michael

      -----Original Message-----
      From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 20:19
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts &
      Statues.


      << Apemania makes costumes (of course I'll be wanting to cover them in the
      future), masks (ditto) and figural busts/statues (including a doorknocker
      and that kick ass Santa). Am I forgetting anything? >>

      Yes! Someday the lifesized Zira will be mine . . . Oh yes, she will be
      mine.
      Props to Wayne Campbell. Does anyone know if they ever finished the bust?
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      Group: pota Message: 3931 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.
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      It's a great start!
       
      Thanks Brian.
       
      Michael
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Dumont [afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 9:33
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Collectibles Article Part One - Model Kits, Busts & Statues.

       

      Michael Whitty wrote:

      Brian
       
      I am considering writing an article on Planet of the Apes collectibles in parts beginning with models/statues/busts.
       
      I have all the Addar kits, Addar Bottle scenes, Polar Lights re-releases (I am looking for scans of the promotional posters for these if anyone has them - Alex, how about that eBay CD?).  I have some original ads from the Curtis Magazines, but anyone with any othere promo stuff or ads please let me know!!!  I also have the
      Spaceship (ANSA) model kit.
       
      Apemania makes costumes (of course I'll be wanting to cover them in the future), masks (ditto) and figural busts/statues (including a doorknocker and that kick ass Santa).  Am I forgetting anything?

       
      Can you provide me with links to all (even - and PARTICULARLY - for those no longer for sale) the figural busts/statues and doorknocker/Santa plus anything I might have missed with a story if applicable and prices, availability (again even for those no longer for sale to give the reader an idea of what they DID cost).
      • you can start at the MERCHANDISE pages <http://apemania.com/merch/merchandise.htm>
      • I believe the SANTA sold for just under $400 (we'll have a few more holiday surprizes up this summer)
      • the door knocker (resin version) went for $150, the BRONZE alloy for $400


      I hope this helps!

      Brian

       

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      Group: pota Message: 3932 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
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      I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.  There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and Brian went a bit quiet after that.  I'm kinda hoping we can go back to hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
       
      Michael

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      Group: pota Message: 3933 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
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      Yeah Brian come on tell us more - PLEEEEASE!!!!
       
      Michael
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 18:40
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar

      hey Brian,
      What are the "2 rare versions (one per box)"?
      Are they color variants or what?
      Thanks,
      KEN

       
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      Group: pota Message: 3934 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
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      .html Not quite sure, Ken.  Probably just that.  I believe they are variations of Caesar and The Conquest gorilla, but I do not know what the differences are.  I do know that the shops in Japan that are getting them are charging double for them as soon as they come out of the crates.  So if you see them on eBay for inflated prices, you'll know why.  I should have mine in a few days so I'll let everyone know then.

      Brian

      Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

      hey Brian,
      What are the "2 rare versions (one per box)"?
      Are they color variants or what?
      Thanks,
      KEN

      Brian Dumont wrote:

       Jee-Wizz!!!  Hang on a moment folks!  How do WE know that they will release certain characters first?  Does any of us (present company excluded) have direct connections with Medicom?  Or are we just guessing which ones will be next?

      Several of my sources have already purchased the Taylor Astronaut, Caesar, and Caesar's Land (Conquest) gorilla figures as well as the 2 rare versions (one per box).  Mine are en-route to me as we speak.

      I think we should all just settle down a bit before we start attacking the very vendors to whom we seek help in obtaining these treasures.
      If they say they have certain figures, give them the benefit of the doubt before you start casting stones.  Pick up the phone and call them.  E-mail them.  Knock on their doors!  But don't condemn them because you heard from someone somewhere that a different figure will be released before another.

      Please remember that MEDICOM told me directly that they do not distribute to markets outside of Japan.  Therefore these dealers either make the hop over there themselves or have buyers in Japan that purchase what's left when they hit the stores.  Many of the more popular items will sell out first, leaving the overseas vendors to scrounge for the scraps.

      So keep your shirts on, will you, and contact the dealers for comment if you are in doubt.  Besides, before you know it, ALL of the figures will be ALL over bay, with no-one bidding on them at all.  (look at what's going on with the first series figures now.  It's pretty darn quiet.)

      I'm just saying, stop all the speculation and accusations before you have all of the facts, from the real sources.

      Enough.

      Brian

      Michael Whitty wrote:

       Thanks Alex!  I'll certainly lodge my protest to him! :-)Michael
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
      Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 10:30
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
      Well here we go again!Battle for the Planet of the Apes Caesar Medicom!Just go to ebay.com and type "Caesar Medicom". (sorry I didn't want to type out that whole link)And this one is from a "New York Dealer". Try telling him that the three astronauts and Lawgiver come first Mike. :o)Best, Alex
       


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      Group: pota Message: 3935 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
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      LordTZer0@... wrote:...

      Yes!  Someday the lifesized Zira will be mine . . . Oh yes, she will be mine.
      Easy tiger...play nice.
       
      Props to Wayne Campbell.  Does anyone know if they ever finished the bust?
      What bust is that?
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3936 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
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      .html Hi Mike,

      Thanx for clearing that up.  E-mail can be so misleading at times.

      B
       
       

      Brian
       
      I hope you don't think I was attacking anyone.
       
      I was just agreeing that the informaton I got was that the 3 Astronauts and the Lawgiver were the next to be released then I added in jest that if my information is
      correct then it would explain why the dealer mentioned was, in your words, "A bit slow".
       
      I also jested to Alex that I shall protest to the aforementioned New York Dealer for selling the apes I thought were not yet released because this seems to be
      evidence that my source is unreliable.  I'm not serious.  I'm wrong sometimes too.
       
      Michael

               -----Original Message-----
               From: Brian Dumont [mailto:afryt4u@...]
               Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 17:45
               To: pota@yahoogroups.com
               Subject: Re: [pota] Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar

               Jee-Wizz!!!  Hang on a moment folks!  How do WE know that they will release certain characters first?  Does any of us
               (present company excluded) have direct connections with Medicom?  Or are we just guessing which ones will be next?

               Several of my sources have already purchased the Taylor Astronaut, Caesar, and Caesar's Land (Conquest) gorilla figures as
               well as the 2 rare versions (one per box).  Mine are en-route to me as we speak.

               I think we should all just settle down a bit before we start attacking the very vendors to whom we seek help in obtaining these
               treasures.
               If they say they have certain figures, give them the benefit of the doubt before you start casting stones.  Pick up the phone and
               call them.  E-mail them.  Knock on their doors!  But don't condemn them because you heard from someone somewhere that a
               different figure will be released before another.

               Please remember that MEDICOM told me directly that they do not distribute to markets outside of Japan.  Therefore these
               dealers either make the hop over there themselves or have buyers in Japan that purchase what's left when they hit the stores.
               Many of the more popular items will sell out first, leaving the overseas vendors to scrounge for the scraps.

               So keep your shirts on, will you, and contact the dealers for comment if you are in doubt.  Besides, before you know it, ALL of
               the figures will be ALL over bay, with no-one bidding on them at all.  (look at what's going on with the first series figures
               now.  It's pretty darn quiet.)

               I'm just saying, stop all the speculation and accusations before you have all of the facts, from the real sources.

               Enough.

               Brian

               Michael Whitty wrote:

                  Thanks Alex!  I'll certainly lodge my protest to him! :-) Michael
                 -----Original Message-----
                 From: Alexander Ruiz [mailto:prophecysite@...]
                 Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2001 10:30
                 To: pota@yahoogroups.com
                 Subject: [pota] Another Medicom BATTLE Caesar
                 Well here we go again!Battle for the Planet of the Apes Caesar Medicom!Just go to ebay.com and type "Caesar Medicom". (sorry I didn't
                 want to type out that whole link)And this one is from a "New York Dealer". Try telling him that the three astronauts and Lawgiver come first
                 Mike. :o) Best, Alex

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      Group: pota Message: 3937 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
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      I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.  There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and Brian went a bit quiet after that.  I'm kinda hoping we can go back to hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
       
      Well, I've been on the e-group since '98 and I don't recall that.
      But I'm all for it, I mean that's what the group is all about.
      Monkey Talk and updates. I mean Ape Talk. :o)
       
      Best,
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3938 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
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      Hi Mike,

      Thanx for clearing that up.  E-mail can be so misleading at times.

      B 
        
      I agree with that, one too many misunderstandings in the past.

      Clearly, writing and speaking are not one in the same.

      Best,

      Alex

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      Group: pota Message: 3939 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Ban the Bri
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      Michael Whitty wrote:
       

      I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.
      There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and
      Brian went a bit quiet after that.  I'm kinda hoping we can go back to hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
       
      Michael

      Wow, Mike!  I wasn't aware that folks even remembered those days.  I do remember that prior to me sharing new releases with the group, weeks would go by with no activity at ALL!  That whole "burn the Brian" campaign by Rosenthal, was kinda fun and funny, in a childish way.  What ever happened to old Sam?  Did he break his neck in a mosh pit or something?

      I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members:  How about an introduction message from everyone again?
      I'll start:  "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA and Creative Director for Make-up & Monsters Studios.  When we (my crew and I) aren't dressing up as our favorite POTA characters, we make our livings by creating make-up effects for maybe some of your favorite films . Check out my Apemania profile and the ol' resume if you're enclined to know more <http://apemania.com/cast/brian.htm>

      Well, if the majority of the group would like me to let them know about new Apemania releases or events, I'll keep them coming.
      News of the day:

      • Apemania (the troupe) is planning to do several conventions prior to the release of the new film. The first one we are gearing up for will be in Las Vegas sometime in APe-ril, how ape-propos (apropos)?!
      • FOX INTERACTIVE will also be releasing the POTA Interactive game in the spring, and there has been talk about a three city promotional tour with Apemania in NYC, Chicago, and LA.
      • Vendors have added more collectibles to the Ape City Thrift shop pages, one that just might cap your day! <http://www.apemania.com/Thrift.htm>
      • We are always looking for fan contributions to our Junior G-Man <http://apemania.com/gman.htm> and Arts & Crafts pages <http://apemania.com/ARTS.htm>  So com'on folks, show your stuff!!!
      • We just finished a Conquest display (lifesize) <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/CONQUEST.htm> and are currently working on a restoration and fullsize display of Maurice Evans' original Dr. Zaius outfit.
      • We also just finished the first Casaer Economy Bust <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
      • The Nova and Cornelius resin kits are still on the carving blocks, as is a really fabulous General Ursus.  It's doubtful we will see any of these before summer though. <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>
      • The long awaited Dr. Zira Economy Mask will debut soon, fun for you and the little woman, aye LordTZer0? The big delay on that is Zira's hairstyle and figuring a way to make them affordable.
      • And of course, Workshop foto pages galore!
      I'm sure I've forgotten a bushell of things, but I hope this'll do for starters.

      Have a great day folks!  GO APE!!!

      Brian
       
       
       
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3940 From: Phil Date: 2/7/2001
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      Seriously. Brian could pimp stuff every day - who's it affecting? At
      least we get to see cool pics every time.

      --- In pota@y..., "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
      > I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to
      keep the
      > group up to speed with new Apemania releases. There was a
      particularly
      > outspoken member of the group who believed Brian was promoting his
      > capitalistic ways and Brian went a bit quiet after that. I'm kinda
      hoping
      > we can go back to hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
      >
      > Michael
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3941 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
      .html
      Hello all...

      I would like to introduce myself. My name is Larry Montgomery and I have
      been a POTA fan ever since I first saw the movie at a drive in back in 1967
      with my Mom and Dad. The only part that I really remember was the landing
      sequence the scarecrows and the opening scenes of the Gorillas on horseback.
      I can remember my Mom saying "oh! I think I saw one!" right before the
      full face shot.

      I have still got my original coloring book with my scribbles in it and
      several of the puzzle kits. I am kind of quirky in the fact that my main
      interests lie not so much in the "Ape" society, but from Mankinds downfall
      and how a misanthrope ends up defending all of humanity. I also especially
      dig how society ended up (I suppose a parallel future) in 1991.

      Anyway, I really enjoy the emails which come back and forth and it seems
      that most of the contributors send imaginative and insightful thoughts.

      Go Humans

      Larry


      >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: [pota] Ban the Bri
      >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:03:38 -0800
      >
      >
      >
      >Michael Whitty wrote:
      >
      >
      >I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep
      >the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.
      >There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed
      >Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and
      >Brian went a bit quiet after that. I'm kinda hoping we can go back to
      >hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
      >
      >Michael
      >
      >Wow, Mike! I wasn't aware that folks even remembered those days. I do
      >remember that prior to me sharing new releases with the group, weeks
      >would go by with no activity at ALL! That whole "burn the Brian"
      >campaign by Rosenthal, was kinda fun and funny, in a childish way. What
      >ever happened to old Sam? Did he break his neck in a mosh pit or
      >something?
      >
      >I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members: How about an
      >introduction message from everyone again?
      >I'll start: "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
      >APEMANIA and Creative Director for Make-up & Monsters Studios. When we
      >(my crew and I) aren't dressing up as our favorite POTA characters, we
      >make our livings by creating make-up effects for maybe some of your
      >favorite films . Check out my Apemania profile and the ol' resume if
      >you're enclined to know more <http://apemania.com/cast/brian.htm>
      >
      >Well, if the majority of the group would like me to let them know about
      >new Apemania releases or events, I'll keep them coming.
      >News of the day:
      >
      > * Apemania (the troupe) is planning to do several conventions prior
      > to the release of the new film. The first one we are gearing up for
      > will be in Las Vegas sometime in APe-ril, how ape-propos
      > (apropos)?!
      > * FOX INTERACTIVE will also be releasing the POTA Interactive game in
      > the spring, and there has been talk about a three city promotional
      > tour with Apemania in NYC, Chicago, and LA.
      > * Vendors have added more collectibles to the Ape City Thrift shop
      > pages, one that just might cap your day!
      > <http://www.apemania.com/Thrift.htm>
      > * We are always looking for fan contributions to our Junior G-Man
      > <http://apemania.com/gman.htm> and Arts & Crafts pages
      > <http://apemania.com/ARTS.htm> So com'on folks, show your stuff!!!
      > * We just finished a Conquest display (lifesize)
      > <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/CONQUEST.htm> and are
      > currently working on a restoration and fullsize display of Maurice
      > Evans' original Dr. Zaius outfit.
      > * We also just finished the first Casaer Economy Bust
      > <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
      > * The Nova and Cornelius resin kits are still on the carving blocks,
      > as is a really fabulous General Ursus. It's doubtful we will see
      > any of these before summer though.
      > <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>
      > * The long awaited Dr. Zira Economy Mask will debut soon, fun for you
      > and the little woman, aye LordTZer0? The big delay on that is
      > Zira's hairstyle and figuring a way to make them affordable.
      > * And of course, Workshop foto pages galore!
      >
      >I'm sure I've forgotten a bushell of things, but I hope this'll do for
      >starters.
      >
      >Have a great day folks! GO APE!!!
      >
      >Brian
      >
      >
      >
      >

      _____
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      Group: pota Message: 3942 From: Dave Ballard Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
      .html
      >
      >I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members: How about
      >an introduction message from everyone again?


      Dave Ballard from London re-introducing myself...

      Married to Caroline with a 7 year old boy, Christopher. I've been a
      fan ever since seeing Beneath on it's original release (You do the
      maths!) I'm always happy to hear the latest news and learn of any new
      items for sale "It's better to have it and not need it,
      than need it and not have it" As the wise Monkey once said.

      I have to admit I get pretty green when I see the prices those of you
      in the USA can get stuff for. Whatever you're paying, even in your
      worst nightmares, double it and you get the UK price!

      Generally speaking this e-group is "the bollocks" (A bit of London
      talk thrown in there... anyone notice?) Things can often get a bit
      negative though. We're all fans, we should be sharing and getting
      along, I'm not preaching, I'm as guilty as anyone but lets use this
      re-introduction idea as a fresh start and try and keep things
      positive from now on.

      Since joining this group I've discovered that there are a lot of
      great guys out there,fantastically generous people I've never even
      met.

      It's great to be a part of it all.
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      Group: pota Message: 3943 From: Debiortho@aol.com Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: (no subject)
      .html
      .htmlplease tell me how to stop getting a million pota emails

      thank you
      <.html
      <.html
      Group: pota Message: 3944 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
      .html
      .html Hi Larry.  Welcome and thanx for sharing, especially about your mom's comment!

      My first memory of POTA's?  I was 3 years old coming out of the grocery store with my Mother in Cuccamunga, California.  Being so low to the ground at that age, parking lots were always a treasure trove of goodies and adventure, so my eyes were always searching for stuff.

      When we got to the car that day, I looked down and noticed a photograph on the ground.  I didn't touch it because what I saw scared me nearly to death!  A man in a cage with a blonde haired ape WEARING CLOTHES looking in at him.  I was so scared of the fact that someone  had lost that photograph , they were probably looking for it,  the cage-place must've been near my house, and "they" knew I had seen the photo!  My mother couldn't figure out why I was so quiet the rest of the day.  I never told her about the photo of the monkey and the man in the cage, because I thought they'd come and get her too!

      Such was my terrifying introduction to bubble-gum cards.  Heck, at 3 years of age, every foto is REAL!!!

      Brian

      Larry Montgomery wrote:

      Hello all...

      I would like to introduce myself.  My name is Larry Montgomery and I have
      been a POTA fan ever since I first saw the movie at a drive in back in 1967
      with my Mom and Dad.  The only part that I really remember was the landing
      sequence the scarecrows and the opening scenes of the Gorillas on horseback.
        I can remember my Mom saying "oh! I think I saw one!"  right before the
      full face shot.

      I have still got my original coloring book with my scribbles in it and
      several of the puzzle kits.  I am kind of quirky in the fact that my main
      interests lie not so much in the "Ape" society, but from Mankinds downfall
      and how a misanthrope ends up defending all of humanity.  I also especially
      dig how society ended up (I suppose a parallel future) in 1991.

      Anyway, I really enjoy the emails which come back and forth and it seems
      that most of the contributors send imaginative and insightful thoughts.

      Go Humans

      Larry

      >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: [pota] Ban the Bri
      >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:03:38 -0800
      >
      >
      >
      >Michael Whitty wrote:
      >
      >
      >I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep
      >the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.
      >There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed
      >Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and
      >Brian went a bit quiet after that.  I'm kinda hoping we can go back to
      >hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
      >
      >Michael
      >
      >Wow, Mike!  I wasn't aware that folks even remembered those days.  I do
      >remember that prior to me sharing new releases with the group, weeks
      >would go by with no activity at ALL!  That whole "burn the Brian"
      >campaign by Rosenthal, was kinda fun and funny, in a childish way.  What
      >ever happened to old Sam?  Did he break his neck in a mosh pit or
      >something?
      >
      >I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members:  How about an
      >introduction message from everyone again?
      >I'll start:  "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
      >APEMANIA and Creative Director for Make-up & Monsters Studios.  When we
      >(my crew and I) aren't dressing up as our favorite POTA characters, we
      >make our livings by creating make-up effects for maybe some of your
      >favorite films . Check out my Apemania profile and the ol' resume if
      >you're enclined to know more <http://apemania.com/cast/brian.htm>
      >
      >Well, if the majority of the group would like me to let them know about
      >new Apemania releases or events, I'll keep them coming.
      >News of the day:
      >
      >    * Apemania (the troupe) is planning to do several conventions prior
      >      to the release of the new film. The first one we are gearing up for
      >      will be in Las Vegas sometime in APe-ril, how ape-propos
      >      (apropos)?!
      >    * FOX INTERACTIVE will also be releasing the POTA Interactive game in
      >      the spring, and there has been talk about a three city promotional
      >      tour with Apemania in NYC, Chicago, and LA.
      >    * Vendors have added more collectibles to the Ape City Thrift shop
      >      pages, one that just might cap your day!
      >      <http://www.apemania.com/Thrift.htm>
      >    * We are always looking for fan contributions to our Junior G-Man
      >      <http://apemania.com/gman.htm> and Arts & Crafts pages
      >      <http://apemania.com/ARTS.htm>  So com'on folks, show your stuff!!!
      >    * We just finished a Conquest display (lifesize)
      >      <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/CONQUEST.htm> and are
      >      currently working on a restoration and fullsize display of Maurice
      >      Evans' original Dr. Zaius outfit.
      >    * We also just finished the first Casaer Economy Bust
      >      <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
      >    * The Nova and Cornelius resin kits are still on the carving blocks,
      >      as is a really fabulous General Ursus.  It's doubtful we will see
      >      any of these before summer though.
      >      <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>
      >    * The long awaited Dr. Zira Economy Mask will debut soon, fun for you
      >      and the little woman, aye LordTZer0? The big delay on that is
      >      Zira's hairstyle and figuring a way to make them affordable.
      >    * And of course, Workshop foto pages galore!
      >
      >I'm sure I've forgotten a bushell of things, but I hope this'll do for
      >starters.
      >
      >Have a great day folks!  GO APE!!!
      >
      >Brian
      >
      >
      >
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 3945 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Larry Montgomery
      .html
      .html  
      PS:  Where are you from, Larry.  "Where is your nest?  Where are your women?  If you are trying to protect others of your kind, it'll cost you your identity!!!"   SAVE YOURSELF, LARRY!!!
       

      Larry Montgomery wrote:

      Hello all...

      I would like to introduce myself.  My name is Larry Montgomery and I have
      been a POTA fan ever since I first saw the movie at a drive in back in 1967
      with my Mom and Dad.  The only part that I really remember was the landing
      sequence the scarecrows and the opening scenes of the Gorillas on horseback.
        I can remember my Mom saying "oh! I think I saw one!"  right before the
      full face shot.

      I have still got my original coloring book with my scribbles in it and
      several of the puzzle kits.  I am kind of quirky in the fact that my main
      interests lie not so much in the "Ape" society, but from Mankinds downfall
      and how a misanthrope ends up defending all of humanity.  I also especially
      dig how society ended up (I suppose a parallel future) in 1991.

      Anyway, I really enjoy the emails which come back and forth and it seems
      that most of the contributors send imaginative and insightful thoughts.

      Go Humans

      Larry

      >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: [pota] Ban the Bri
      >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:03:38 -0800
      >
      >
      >
      >Michael Whitty wrote:
      >
      >
      >I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep
      >the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.
      >There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed
      >Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and
      >Brian went a bit quiet after that.  I'm kinda hoping we can go back to
      >hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
      >
      >Michael
      >
      >Wow, Mike!  I wasn't aware that folks even remembered those days.  I do
      >remember that prior to me sharing new releases with the group, weeks
      >would go by with no activity at ALL!  That whole "burn the Brian"
      >campaign by Rosenthal, was kinda fun and funny, in a childish way.  What
      >ever happened to old Sam?  Did he break his neck in a mosh pit or
      >something?
      >
      >I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members:  How about an
      >introduction message from everyone again?
      >I'll start:  "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
      >APEMANIA and Creative Director for Make-up & Monsters Studios.  When we
      >(my crew and I) aren't dressing up as our favorite POTA characters, we
      >make our livings by creating make-up effects for maybe some of your
      >favorite films . Check out my Apemania profile and the ol' resume if
      >you're enclined to know more <http://apemania.com/cast/brian.htm>
      >
      >Well, if the majority of the group would like me to let them know about
      >new Apemania releases or events, I'll keep them coming.
      >News of the day:
      >
      >    * Apemania (the troupe) is planning to do several conventions prior
      >      to the release of the new film. The first one we are gearing up for
      >      will be in Las Vegas sometime in APe-ril, how ape-propos
      >      (apropos)?!
      >    * FOX INTERACTIVE will also be releasing the POTA Interactive game in
      >      the spring, and there has been talk about a three city promotional
      >      tour with Apemania in NYC, Chicago, and LA.
      >    * Vendors have added more collectibles to the Ape City Thrift shop
      >      pages, one that just might cap your day!
      >      <http://www.apemania.com/Thrift.htm>
      >    * We are always looking for fan contributions to our Junior G-Man
      >      <http://apemania.com/gman.htm> and Arts & Crafts pages
      >      <http://apemania.com/ARTS.htm>  So com'on folks, show your stuff!!!
      >    * We just finished a Conquest display (lifesize)
      >      <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/CONQUEST.htm> and are
      >      currently working on a restoration and fullsize display of Maurice
      >      Evans' original Dr. Zaius outfit.
      >    * We also just finished the first Casaer Economy Bust
      >      <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
      >    * The Nova and Cornelius resin kits are still on the carving blocks,
      >      as is a really fabulous General Ursus.  It's doubtful we will see
      >      any of these before summer though.
      >      <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>
      >    * The long awaited Dr. Zira Economy Mask will debut soon, fun for you
      >      and the little woman, aye LordTZer0? The big delay on that is
      >      Zira's hairstyle and figuring a way to make them affordable.
      >    * And of course, Workshop foto pages galore!
      >
      >I'm sure I've forgotten a bushell of things, but I hope this'll do for
      >starters.
      >
      >Have a great day folks!  GO APE!!!
      >
      >Brian
      >
      >
      >
      >

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      Group: pota Message: 3946 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
      .html
      Wow! I never got around to collecting the cards. My son who is 2 years of
      age really digs all of the pota movies, although I don't let him watch some
      of the scenes (he can see them a little later when he is ready.)

      I have a question regarding the "Sacred Scrolls"...

      Does anyone know where there is a set of them? I think it would be
      interesting. Or how far they were taken.

      Nice to hear from you brian

      Larry


      >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: Re: [pota] Ban the Bri
      >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:03:04 -0800
      >
      >Hi Larry. Welcome and thanx for sharing, especially about your mom's
      >comment!
      >
      >My first memory of POTA's? I was 3 years old coming out of the grocery
      >store
      >with my Mother in Cuccamunga, California. Being so low to the ground at
      >that
      >age, parking lots were always a treasure trove of goodies and adventure, so
      >my
      >eyes were always searching for stuff.
      >
      >When we got to the car that day, I looked down and noticed a photograph on
      >the
      >ground. I didn't touch it because what I saw scared me nearly to death! A
      >man
      >in a cage with a blonde haired ape WEARING CLOTHES looking in at him. I
      >was so
      >scared of the fact that someone had lost that photograph , they were
      >probably
      >looking for it, the cage-place must've been near my house, and "they" knew
      >I
      >had seen the photo! My mother couldn't figure out why I was so quiet the
      >rest
      >of the day. I never told her about the photo of the monkey and the man in
      >the
      >cage, because I thought they'd come and get her too!
      >
      >Such was my terrifying introduction to bubble-gum cards. Heck, at 3 years
      >of
      >age, every foto is REAL!!!
      >
      >Brian
      >
      >Larry Montgomery wrote:
      >
      > > Hello all...
      > >
      > > I would like to introduce myself. My name is Larry Montgomery and I
      >have
      > > been a POTA fan ever since I first saw the movie at a drive in back in
      >1967
      > > with my Mom and Dad. The only part that I really remember was the
      >landing
      > > sequence the scarecrows and the opening scenes of the Gorillas on
      >horseback.
      > > I can remember my Mom saying "oh! I think I saw one!" right before
      >the
      > > full face shot.
      > >
      > > I have still got my original coloring book with my scribbles in it and
      > > several of the puzzle kits. I am kind of quirky in the fact that my
      >main
      > > interests lie not so much in the "Ape" society, but from Mankinds
      >downfall
      > > and how a misanthrope ends up defending all of humanity. I also
      >especially
      > > dig how society ended up (I suppose a parallel future) in 1991.
      > >
      > > Anyway, I really enjoy the emails which come back and forth and it seems
      > > that most of the contributors send imaginative and insightful thoughts.
      > >
      > > Go Humans
      > >
      > > Larry
      > >
      > > >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      > > >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > > >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > > >Subject: [pota] Ban the Bri
      > > >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:03:38 -0800
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >Michael Whitty wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep
      > > >the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.
      > > >There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed
      > > >Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and
      > > >Brian went a bit quiet after that. I'm kinda hoping we can go back to
      > > >hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
      > > >
      > > >Michael
      > > >
      > > >Wow, Mike! I wasn't aware that folks even remembered those days. I do
      > > >remember that prior to me sharing new releases with the group, weeks
      > > >would go by with no activity at ALL! That whole "burn the Brian"
      > > >campaign by Rosenthal, was kinda fun and funny, in a childish way.
      >What
      > > >ever happened to old Sam? Did he break his neck in a mosh pit or
      > > >something?
      > > >
      > > >I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members: How about an
      > > >introduction message from everyone again?
      > > >I'll start: "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
      > > >APEMANIA and Creative Director for Make-up & Monsters Studios. When we
      > > >(my crew and I) aren't dressing up as our favorite POTA characters, we
      > > >make our livings by creating make-up effects for maybe some of your
      > > >favorite films . Check out my Apemania profile and the ol' resume if
      > > >you're enclined to know more <http://apemania.com/cast/brian.htm>
      > > >
      > > >Well, if the majority of the group would like me to let them know about
      > > >new Apemania releases or events, I'll keep them coming.
      > > >News of the day:
      > > >
      > > > * Apemania (the troupe) is planning to do several conventions prior
      > > > to the release of the new film. The first one we are gearing up
      >for
      > > > will be in Las Vegas sometime in APe-ril, how ape-propos
      > > > (apropos)?!
      > > > * FOX INTERACTIVE will also be releasing the POTA Interactive game
      >in
      > > > the spring, and there has been talk about a three city
      >promotional
      > > > tour with Apemania in NYC, Chicago, and LA.
      > > > * Vendors have added more collectibles to the Ape City Thrift shop
      > > > pages, one that just might cap your day!
      > > > <http://www.apemania.com/Thrift.htm>
      > > > * We are always looking for fan contributions to our Junior G-Man
      > > > <http://apemania.com/gman.htm> and Arts & Crafts pages
      > > > <http://apemania.com/ARTS.htm> So com'on folks, show your
      >stuff!!!
      > > > * We just finished a Conquest display (lifesize)
      > > > <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/CONQUEST.htm> and are
      > > > currently working on a restoration and fullsize display of
      >Maurice
      > > > Evans' original Dr. Zaius outfit.
      > > > * We also just finished the first Casaer Economy Bust
      > > > <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
      > > > * The Nova and Cornelius resin kits are still on the carving
      >blocks,
      > > > as is a really fabulous General Ursus. It's doubtful we will see
      > > > any of these before summer though.
      > > > <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>
      > > > * The long awaited Dr. Zira Economy Mask will debut soon, fun for
      >you
      > > > and the little woman, aye LordTZer0? The big delay on that is
      > > > Zira's hairstyle and figuring a way to make them affordable.
      > > > * And of course, Workshop foto pages galore!
      > > >
      > > >I'm sure I've forgotten a bushell of things, but I hope this'll do for
      > > >starters.
      > > >
      > > >Have a great day folks! GO APE!!!
      > > >
      > > >Brian
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > > _____
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      Group: pota Message: 3947 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
      .html
      I'm not from Ft. Wayne Indianna, but Florissant Missouri.

      THIS WHOLE THING IS INSANE!!!! WHAT HAVE I DONE??!!??!


      >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: [pota] Larry Montgomery
      >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:05:46 -0800
      >
      >
      >PS: Where are you from, Larry. "Where is your nest? Where are your
      >women?
      >If you are trying to protect others of your kind, it'll cost you your
      >identity!!!" SAVE YOURSELF, LARRY!!!
      >
      >
      >Larry Montgomery wrote:
      >
      > > Hello all...
      > >
      > > I would like to introduce myself. My name is Larry Montgomery and I
      >have
      > > been a POTA fan ever since I first saw the movie at a drive in back in
      >1967
      > > with my Mom and Dad. The only part that I really remember was the
      >landing
      > > sequence the scarecrows and the opening scenes of the Gorillas on
      >horseback.
      > > I can remember my Mom saying "oh! I think I saw one!" right before
      >the
      > > full face shot.
      > >
      > > I have still got my original coloring book with my scribbles in it and
      > > several of the puzzle kits. I am kind of quirky in the fact that my
      >main
      > > interests lie not so much in the "Ape" society, but from Mankinds
      >downfall
      > > and how a misanthrope ends up defending all of humanity. I also
      >especially
      > > dig how society ended up (I suppose a parallel future) in 1991.
      > >
      > > Anyway, I really enjoy the emails which come back and forth and it seems
      > > that most of the contributors send imaginative and insightful thoughts.
      > >
      > > Go Humans
      > >
      > > Larry
      > >
      > > >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      > > >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > > >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > > >Subject: [pota] Ban the Bri
      > > >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:03:38 -0800
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >Michael Whitty wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep
      > > >the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.
      > > >There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed
      > > >Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and
      > > >Brian went a bit quiet after that. I'm kinda hoping we can go back to
      > > >hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
      > > >
      > > >Michael
      > > >
      > > >Wow, Mike! I wasn't aware that folks even remembered those days. I do
      > > >remember that prior to me sharing new releases with the group, weeks
      > > >would go by with no activity at ALL! That whole "burn the Brian"
      > > >campaign by Rosenthal, was kinda fun and funny, in a childish way.
      >What
      > > >ever happened to old Sam? Did he break his neck in a mosh pit or
      > > >something?
      > > >
      > > >I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members: How about an
      > > >introduction message from everyone again?
      > > >I'll start: "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
      > > >APEMANIA and Creative Director for Make-up & Monsters Studios. When we
      > > >(my crew and I) aren't dressing up as our favorite POTA characters, we
      > > >make our livings by creating make-up effects for maybe some of your
      > > >favorite films . Check out my Apemania profile and the ol' resume if
      > > >you're enclined to know more <http://apemania.com/cast/brian.htm>
      > > >
      > > >Well, if the majority of the group would like me to let them know about
      > > >new Apemania releases or events, I'll keep them coming.
      > > >News of the day:
      > > >
      > > > * Apemania (the troupe) is planning to do several conventions prior
      > > > to the release of the new film. The first one we are gearing up
      >for
      > > > will be in Las Vegas sometime in APe-ril, how ape-propos
      > > > (apropos)?!
      > > > * FOX INTERACTIVE will also be releasing the POTA Interactive game
      >in
      > > > the spring, and there has been talk about a three city
      >promotional
      > > > tour with Apemania in NYC, Chicago, and LA.
      > > > * Vendors have added more collectibles to the Ape City Thrift shop
      > > > pages, one that just might cap your day!
      > > > <http://www.apemania.com/Thrift.htm>
      > > > * We are always looking for fan contributions to our Junior G-Man
      > > > <http://apemania.com/gman.htm> and Arts & Crafts pages
      > > > <http://apemania.com/ARTS.htm> So com'on folks, show your
      >stuff!!!
      > > > * We just finished a Conquest display (lifesize)
      > > > <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/CONQUEST.htm> and are
      > > > currently working on a restoration and fullsize display of
      >Maurice
      > > > Evans' original Dr. Zaius outfit.
      > > > * We also just finished the first Casaer Economy Bust
      > > > <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
      > > > * The Nova and Cornelius resin kits are still on the carving
      >blocks,
      > > > as is a really fabulous General Ursus. It's doubtful we will see
      > > > any of these before summer though.
      > > > <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>
      > > > * The long awaited Dr. Zira Economy Mask will debut soon, fun for
      >you
      > > > and the little woman, aye LordTZer0? The big delay on that is
      > > > Zira's hairstyle and figuring a way to make them affordable.
      > > > * And of course, Workshop foto pages galore!
      > > >
      > > >I'm sure I've forgotten a bushell of things, but I hope this'll do for
      > > >starters.
      > > >
      > > >Have a great day folks! GO APE!!!
      > > >
      > > >Brian
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > > _____
      _____
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      Group: pota Message: 3948 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: 29th Scroll display
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      .html Apemania plans to release a really nice piece this year.  Stay tuned!

      brian

      Larry Montgomery wrote:

      Wow!  I never got around to collecting the cards.  My son who is 2 years of
      age really digs all of the pota movies, although I don't let him watch some
      of the scenes (he can see them a little later when he is ready.)

      I have a question regarding the "Sacred Scrolls"...

      Does anyone know where there is a set of them?  I think it would be
      interesting.  Or how far they were taken.

      Nice to hear from you brian

      Larry

      >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: Re: [pota] Ban the Bri
      >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:03:04 -0800
      >
      >Hi Larry.  Welcome and thanx for sharing, especially about your mom's
      >comment!
      >
      >My first memory of POTA's?  I was 3 years old coming out of the grocery
      >store
      >with my Mother in Cuccamunga, California.  Being so low to the ground at
      >that
      >age, parking lots were always a treasure trove of goodies and adventure, so
      >my
      >eyes were always searching for stuff.
      >
      >When we got to the car that day, I looked down and noticed a photograph on
      >the
      >ground.  I didn't touch it because what I saw scared me nearly to death!  A
      >man
      >in a cage with a blonde haired ape WEARING CLOTHES looking in at him.  I
      >was so
      >scared of the fact that someone  had lost that photograph , they were
      >probably
      >looking for it,  the cage-place must've been near my house, and "they" knew
      >I
      >had seen the photo!  My mother couldn't figure out why I was so quiet the
      >rest
      >of the day.  I never told her about the photo of the monkey and the man in
      >the
      >cage, because I thought they'd come and get her too!
      >
      >Such was my terrifying introduction to bubble-gum cards.  Heck, at 3 years
      >of
      >age, every foto is REAL!!!
      >
      >Brian
      >
      >Larry Montgomery wrote:
      >
      > > Hello all...
      > >
      > > I would like to introduce myself.  My name is Larry Montgomery and I
      >have
      > > been a POTA fan ever since I first saw the movie at a drive in back in
      >1967
      > > with my Mom and Dad.  The only part that I really remember was the
      >landing
      > > sequence the scarecrows and the opening scenes of the Gorillas on
      >horseback.
      > >   I can remember my Mom saying "oh! I think I saw one!"  right before
      >the
      > > full face shot.
      > >
      > > I have still got my original coloring book with my scribbles in it and
      > > several of the puzzle kits.  I am kind of quirky in the fact that my
      >main
      > > interests lie not so much in the "Ape" society, but from Mankinds
      >downfall
      > > and how a misanthrope ends up defending all of humanity.  I also
      >especially
      > > dig how society ended up (I suppose a parallel future) in 1991.
      > >
      > > Anyway, I really enjoy the emails which come back and forth and it seems
      > > that most of the contributors send imaginative and insightful thoughts.
      > >
      > > Go Humans
      > >
      > > Larry
      > >
      > > >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      > > >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > > >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      > > >Subject: [pota] Ban the Bri
      > > >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:03:38 -0800
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >Michael Whitty wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep
      > > >the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.
      > > >There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed
      > > >Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and
      > > >Brian went a bit quiet after that.  I'm kinda hoping we can go back to
      > > >hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
      > > >
      > > >Michael
      > > >
      > > >Wow, Mike!  I wasn't aware that folks even remembered those days.  I do
      > > >remember that prior to me sharing new releases with the group, weeks
      > > >would go by with no activity at ALL!  That whole "burn the Brian"
      > > >campaign by Rosenthal, was kinda fun and funny, in a childish way.
      >What
      > > >ever happened to old Sam?  Did he break his neck in a mosh pit or
      > > >something?
      > > >
      > > >I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members:  How about an
      > > >introduction message from everyone again?
      > > >I'll start:  "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for
      > > >APEMANIA and Creative Director for Make-up & Monsters Studios.  When we
      > > >(my crew and I) aren't dressing up as our favorite POTA characters, we
      > > >make our livings by creating make-up effects for maybe some of your
      > > >favorite films . Check out my Apemania profile and the ol' resume if
      > > >you're enclined to know more <http://apemania.com/cast/brian.htm>
      > > >
      > > >Well, if the majority of the group would like me to let them know about
      > > >new Apemania releases or events, I'll keep them coming.
      > > >News of the day:
      > > >
      > > >    * Apemania (the troupe) is planning to do several conventions prior
      > > >      to the release of the new film. The first one we are gearing up
      >for
      > > >      will be in Las Vegas sometime in APe-ril, how ape-propos
      > > >      (apropos)?!
      > > >    * FOX INTERACTIVE will also be releasing the POTA Interactive game
      >in
      > > >      the spring, and there has been talk about a three city
      >promotional
      > > >      tour with Apemania in NYC, Chicago, and LA.
      > > >    * Vendors have added more collectibles to the Ape City Thrift shop
      > > >      pages, one that just might cap your day!
      > > >      <http://www.apemania.com/Thrift.htm>
      > > >    * We are always looking for fan contributions to our Junior G-Man
      > > >      <http://apemania.com/gman.htm> and Arts & Crafts pages
      > > >      <http://apemania.com/ARTS.htm>  So com'on folks, show your
      >stuff!!!
      > > >    * We just finished a Conquest display (lifesize)
      > > >      <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/CONQUEST.htm> and are
      > > >      currently working on a restoration and fullsize display of
      >Maurice
      > > >      Evans' original Dr. Zaius outfit.
      > > >    * We also just finished the first Casaer Economy Bust
      > > >      <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
      > > >    * The Nova and Cornelius resin kits are still on the carving
      >blocks,
      > > >      as is a really fabulous General Ursus.  It's doubtful we will see
      > > >      any of these before summer though.
      > > >      <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>
      > > >    * The long awaited Dr. Zira Economy Mask will debut soon, fun for
      >you
      > > >      and the little woman, aye LordTZer0? The big delay on that is
      > > >      Zira's hairstyle and figuring a way to make them affordable.
      > > >    * And of course, Workshop foto pages galore!
      > > >
      > > >I'm sure I've forgotten a bushell of things, but I hope this'll do for
      > > >starters.
      > > >
      > > >Have a great day folks!  GO APE!!!
      > > >
      > > >Brian
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
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      Group: pota Message: 3949 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
      .html
      .html  
      "You are walking pestilence!  The sooner you are disposed of, the better."

      :-)
       

      Larry Montgomery wrote:

      I'm not from Ft. Wayne Indianna, but Florissant Missouri.

      THIS WHOLE THING IS INSANE!!!! WHAT HAVE I DONE??!!??!

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      Group: pota Message: 3950 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
      .html
      Ok, you can cut pieces out of me, but you're doing it out of fear

      REMEMBER THAT DOCTOR BECAUSE YOURE AFRAID OF ME WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF
      DOCTOR??????????????

      Ahem....

      You guys are cool!

      Larry


      >From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: Re: [pota] Larry Montgomery
      >Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 11:03:25 -0800
      >
      >
      >"You are walking pestilence! The sooner you are disposed of, the better."
      >
      >:-)
      >
      >
      >Larry Montgomery wrote:
      >
      > > I'm not from Ft. Wayne Indianna, but Florissant Missouri.
      > >
      > > THIS WHOLE THING IS INSANE!!!! WHAT HAVE I DONE??!!??!

      _____
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      Group: pota Message: 3951 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
      .html
      .html
      God I love your job Brian.....
       
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Dumont [afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2001 3:04
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Ban the Bri

       

      Michael Whitty wrote:
       

      I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.
      There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and
      Brian went a bit quiet after that.  I'm kinda hoping we can go back to hearing from Brian about new stuff again......
       
      Michael

      Wow, Mike!  I wasn't aware that folks even remembered those days.  I do remember that prior to me sharing new releases with the group, weeks would go by with no activity at ALL!  That whole "burn the Brian" campaign by Rosenthal, was kinda fun and funny, in a childish way.  What ever happened to old Sam?  Did he break his neck in a mosh pit or something?

      I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members:  How about an introduction message from everyone again?
      I'll start:  "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA and Creative Director for Make-up & Monsters Studios.  When we (my crew and I) aren't dressing up as our favorite POTA characters, we make our livings by creating make-up effects for maybe some of your favorite films . Check out my Apemania profile and the ol' resume if you're enclined to know more <http://apemania.com/cast/brian.htm>

      Well, if the majority of the group would like me to let them know about new Apemania releases or events, I'll keep them coming.
      News of the day:

      • Apemania (the troupe) is planning to do several conventions prior to the release of the new film. The first one we are gearing up for will be in Las Vegas sometime in APe-ril, how ape-propos (apropos)?!
      • FOX INTERACTIVE will also be releasing the POTA Interactive game in the spring, and there has been talk about a three city promotional tour with Apemania in NYC, Chicago, and LA.
      • Vendors have added more collectibles to the Ape City Thrift shop pages, one that just might cap your day! <http://www.apemania.com/Thrift.htm>
      • We are always looking for fan contributions to our Junior G-Man <http://apemania.com/gman.htm> and Arts & Crafts pages <http://apemania.com/ARTS.htm>  So com'on folks, show your stuff!!!
      • We just finished a Conquest display (lifesize) <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/CONQUEST.htm> and are currently working on a restoration and fullsize display of Maurice Evans' original Dr. Zaius outfit.
      • We also just finished the first Casaer Economy Bust <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
      • The Nova and Cornelius resin kits are still on the carving blocks, as is a really fabulous General Ursus.  It's doubtful we will see any of these before summer though. <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>
      • The long awaited Dr. Zira Economy Mask will debut soon, fun for you and the little woman, aye LordTZer0? The big delay on that is Zira's hairstyle and figuring a way to make them affordable.
      • And of course, Workshop foto pages galore!
      I'm sure I've forgotten a bushell of things, but I hope this'll do for starters.

      Have a great day folks!  GO APE!!!

      Brian
       
       
       
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3952 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Alexander Ruiz
      .html
      .html
      Boy I feel like I'm in the first day of School.
      I'm Alexander Ruiz runner of www.prophecysite.com and a huge apes fan. Born in Cuba in June '66, and got the hell out 3 months later hehehe!!
       
      Saw Beneath when I was between 7 and 8 on television for the first time and totaly blew me away. Ever since then I've been a POTA fan, although I'm not much of a collector, I do like POTA action figures, Comics, and rare footage. My interest has been more towards the POTA movies than the merchandise or T.V. stuff. And that is why you see that my site is based more towards the movies then anything else.
       
      Not married, almost was, but I was able to escape that prison for now. hehehe!!! Didn't work out, for some reason or other she didn't want to dress up as Zira while we made love.... I just don't understand it. :o)
       
      I live in Hialeah Florida, for most of you who don't know where that is,  It's a small city just off the boarder of Miami. Cool place to live, Worst place to live, as is all places. The grass is always greener on the other side, as they say.
       
      Looking foward to the remake, as most of you know. :o)
      And will be posting updates on the movie and the site as time goes along. I'm glad you guys liked the Music CD, get ready for the Tribute to the Planet of the Apes Part II Music CD, covering the new remake, original T.V. episoodes and Cartoon episodes. The next CD I'll have on the site sometime next month following the the release of the official remake trailer.
       
      Love the past guys, don't ever get me wrong, but I look foward to the remake and future of APES!
       
      Bring on the APES!
      And lets get this PLANET OF THE APES REVIVAL STARTED!
      So step aside Star Wars, it's our time now.
       
      Damn, pinch me I dreaming!
      This is going to be great!
       
      Best guys/gals.
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3953 From: Brian Dumont Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: God I love your job Brian
      .html
      .html Love MY job?  God, I would gladly give it all up for a normal life!!!  You know, adoring wife waiting at home with open arms, white picket fences, screaming kids, barking dogs, cats fighting at wee morning hours, metal detectors and drug addictions at elementary schools, teen pregnancy, 45% tax brackets...eh, you know  what?   I think I'll keep my dumb job.  :-/

      Michael Whitty wrote:

       God I love your job Brian..... 
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Brian Dumont [mailto:afryt4u@...]
      Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2001 3:04
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [pota] Ban the Bri
       

      Michael Whitty wrote:
       

      I think it was before your time Alex but some time Brian used to keep the group up to speed with new Apemania releases.
      There was a particularly outspoken member of the group who believed Brian was promoting his capitalistic ways and
      Brian went a bit quiet after that.  I'm kinda hoping we can go back to hearing from Brian about new stuff again......

      Michael

      Wow, Mike!  I wasn't aware that folks even remembered those days.  I do remember that prior to me sharing new releases with the group, weeks would go by with no activity at ALL!  That whole "burn the Brian" campaign by Rosenthal, was kinda fun and funny, in a childish way.  What ever happened to old Sam?  Did he break his neck in a mosh pit or something?

      I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members:  How about an introduction message from everyone again?
      I'll start:  "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA and Creative Director for Make-up & Monsters Studios.  When we (my crew and I) aren't dressing up as our favorite POTA characters, we make our livings by creating make-up effects for maybe some of your favorite films . Check out my Apemania profile and the ol' resume if you're enclined to know more <http://apemania.com/cast/brian.htm>

      Well, if the majority of the group would like me to let them know about new Apemania releases or events, I'll keep them coming.
      News of the day:

      • Apemania (the troupe) is planning to do several conventions prior to the release of the new film. The first one we are gearing up for will be in Las Vegas sometime in APe-ril, how ape-propos (apropos)?!
      • FOX INTERACTIVE will also be releasing the POTA Interactive game in the spring, and there has been talk about a three city promotional tour with Apemania in NYC, Chicago, and LA.
      • Vendors have added more collectibles to the Ape City Thrift shop pages, one that just might cap your day! <http://www.apemania.com/Thrift.htm>
      • We are always looking for fan contributions to our Junior G-Man <http://apemania.com/gman.htm> and Arts & Crafts pages <http://apemania.com/ARTS.htm>  So com'on folks, show your stuff!!!
      • We just finished a Conquest display (lifesize) <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/MANNEQUINS/CONQUEST.htm> and are currently working on a restoration and fullsize display of Maurice Evans' original Dr. Zaius outfit.
      • We also just finished the first Casaer Economy Bust <http://apemania.com/DISPLAYS/BUSTS.htm>
      • The Nova and Cornelius resin kits are still on the carving blocks, as is a really fabulous General Ursus.  It's doubtful we will see any of these before summer though. <http://apemania.com/RESIN_KITS.htm>
      • The long awaited Dr. Zira Economy Mask will debut soon, fun for you and the little woman, aye LordTZer0? The big delay on that is Zira's hairstyle and figuring a way to make them affordable.
      • And of course, Workshop foto pages galore!
      I'm sure I've forgotten a bushell of things, but I hope this'll do for starters.

      Have a great day folks!  GO APE!!!

      Brian
       
       
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3954 From: JSe3689836@aol.com Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
      .html
      Hello again everyone. This is John from Long Island(somewhere in the
      Forbidden Zone). I first saw POTA when it was rereleased on a double-bill
      (remember those?)with Battle. They showed Battle first, then POTA.
      Omega-Alpha. I was totally blown away. I thought Battle was ok, but POTA was
      like nothing I had ever seen before. Kind of saw the series in a roundabout
      way. I never saw Beneath on it's initial release. My first POTA flick was
      Escape, then Conquest, Battle and POTA. I was really fascinated by the
      makeup, of course. But then when I saw Nova in the cornfield....let's say she
      added a new dimension to my POTA interest. For years I thought I was the only
      POTA fan in the world. But then, thanks to Silicon Valley, I got hooked up to
      the net and found out that was far from the truth. I really enjoy being a
      part of this group. I find all of your posting to be interesting, insightful
      and funny. And although people can get testy from time to time, hey, that's
      life. Nothin' personal. And I'm really glad that we have this sounding board
      what with the reimagining coming out. Gotta go for now, see/read you all
      later, John
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      Group: pota Message: 3955 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Taylor's Spaceship Project Update
      .html
      .html
      Hey Alex -

      Just delurking a moment to say a big "yer welcome" for
      that picture disk again.  My computer went off to the doctor
      just after my last note down your way and just returned a couple
      of days back.

      Anyhow, I'm still spinning your MP3 disk pretty loudly every time
      the wife goes out.

      I'd noticed a few months back that all those cool black & whites
      of the Icarus ship had gone from that site (one Saturday morning,
      when I went back looking for more -  natch :-) ) 
      Glad to hear you're thinking of putting some from that disk on
      the prophecysite.

      As for that cool Escape script... I don't have the Marvel
      magazines anymore (sigh....) but as I recall the adaptation,
      I think it followed this version pretty closely.

      catch ya later
      Kurt

      Thanks again Kurt.
      I'll be finishing the original section this week (fingers crossed) and I'll have the Icarus pics posted as well. I have Escape, Conquest and Battle to complete on some sections. I have an extra copy on that Escape issue you spoke of so I'll send it to you along with the music video cd. (I just never saw that cut version in movie script form before)
       
      I once bought the whole POTA lot of 29 issues on e-bay, so the ones I originaly purchased as a young chimp in the '70s are still stored away. I think they come out to about 12 or 13 repeated issues I have now. (Sorry Terry but I got the whole 29 issues really cheat that day on e-bay)
      I know someone was asking for issue #6 on the e-group but that's not one of my repeats, sorry, if it were I would have sent him that as well.
       
      Thanks again Kurt.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3956 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/7/2001
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      definitely ebay is a place to find deals sometimes
       
      most dealers charge $290 for a set of the 29 magazines
      but I have seen sets on ebay sell anywhere from $40 to 200
      I base my own prices on the condition and supply
       
      If anyone has extra issues of POTA mags, paperbacks, or comics let me know cause I may just purchase them all from you!!
       
      I will pay the best dollar for:
       
      POTA Magazine #18-29 (marvel)
      Adventures On POTA #6-11 (marvel)
      Return to the POTA #1-3 paperbacks from cartoon series
      POTA Lord of the Apes #4 paperback from tv series
       
       

      message from alex:
      I once bought the whole POTA lot of 29 issues on e-bay, so the ones I originaly purchased as a young chimp in the '70s are still stored away. I think they come out to about 12 or 13 repeated issues I have now. (Sorry Terry but I got the whole 29 issues really cheat that day on e-bay)
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      Group: pota Message: 3957 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2001
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      << I'd also like to make a request of the webgroup members: How about an
      introduction message from everyone again?
      I'll start: "Hi, I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue >>

      Hi, I've been and Apes fan since the first film. I'm T, the Kim Hunter fan.
      If there is someone who thinks he's # 1 please speak up, so I can add you to
      my collection in The Great Kim Hunter Museum. I've reserved
      www.kimhunter.com in hopes of starting an on-line museum, but since a good
      deal of my spare change goes to my collections, I could use any advice about
      cheap cyber real-estate and inexpensive page maker programs. As a Hunter fan
      I root for the chimps. I always felt they should be fighting the gorillas,
      and orangutans instead of humans, but they are such hippy pacifists they
      don't really fight anyone.

      I've played in a lot of punk bands, of late I was Lord T Bag of The Caffiends
      -- not the ones from Pasadena, we were a Texas band who predated them. As
      far a this group being the bollocks, last time I was in London, that was a
      bad thing. Maybe that was a "load of bollocks" that was bad. Music is on
      the back burner for now, as I'm studying film. I think Brian has a great
      job. I suppose he's been hit up for work by every film person under the
      foam, but Brian, if you ever need an extra hand, I'm there my friend.

      Please excuse any ranting and raving I may have done in the past. As an Ape
      fan I have strong feelings as to how any film using that name should go, and
      much of the way those feelings are expressed is for dramtic or comic effect.
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      Group: pota Message: 3958 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
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      In a message dated 2/7/01 11:20:01 AM Central Standard Time,
      afryt4u@... writes:

      << I have been a POTA fan ever since I first saw the movie at a drive in back
      in 1967
      with my Mom and Dad. >>

      POTA wasn't release until '68, if I'm wrong and your drive-in had some
      advanced screening, I apologize. I saw it first run spring of '68 with my
      Dad. Sorry to be a stickler for detail Larry, but Heston didn't even see a
      rough screening until Halloween of '67, and says it opened in New York on
      February 15, 1968. Don't worry, I had to look it up myself . . . I was very
      young at the time too.
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      Group: pota Message: 3959 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: POTA marvel magazines
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      I will pay the best dollar for:
       
      POTA Magazine #18-29 (marvel)
      Adventures On POTA #6-11 (marvel)
      Return to the POTA #1-3 paperbacks from cartoon series
      POTA Lord of the Apes #4 paperback from tv series
       
       
      Well, I've crack open the my safe and here is what I have:
      Issues: 17, 29, 8, 10, 14, 11, 2, 3 and 15
      The Escape 1st issue I'll be sending to Kurt as promised. Thought is was more but there's only a total of 10 repeated issues.
       
      This what I'll do Terry to be fair about it.
      I'm offering these repeated mags for free to anyone on the e-group who needs them for their set. (one for each who requests) I'll hold 29 for you Terry sence it covers your #18-29 Marvel request. And if no one asks for the rest, then the rest will be sent to you for free. (for free is my way dude) Fair enough?
       
      All this is for free, for all they will do is collect dust because these are repeated issues for me. I'll give a 4 day deadline, until sunday. After that the rest I'll send to you on monday along with all requests by others.
       
      THE HUNT WILL END in -T 4 days. :o)
       
      Best,
       
      Alex   
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      Group: pota Message: 3960 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
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      I've reserved
      www.kimhunter.com in hopes of starting an on-line museum, but since a good
      deal of my spare change goes to my collections, I could use any advice about
      cheap cyber real-estate and inexpensive page maker programs.
       
       
       
      Cheapest way to go T is free server. The only problem is that you would have to put up with their advertisment banners. (I personaly can't stand them, and also I can't have a free server because I deal in multimedia, and you do need a great deal of hard drive space and bandwidth space to run such a site)But it is the cheapest way to go.
       
      I have about 500 megs of space, with about 300 megs held just for the remake stuff soon to be coming out. But if you want to pay, you maybe able to get something as cheap as $15.00 a month for about 30 megs or so. Just go to your favorite search engine and type out "free server" or "web hosting".
       
      As for creating a site, just go to your local software store and pick up the best page maker you can find or afford. There all quite simple to use, the hardest part is being creative. For what you will create is waht you will display on the web. But you will find that with time practice you will get better at it.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex 
       
       
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      Group: pota Message: 3961 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
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      In a message dated 2/7/01 12:10:31 PM Central Standard Time,
      uscha_dierdorff@... writes:

      << My son who is 2 years of age really digs all of the pota movies, >>

      Wow, my nephew, who is 12, thinks they're okay. I think the new film will be
      more his kind of movie. I hope it will be my kind of movie too, but we'll
      see. I can understand though. It's a different frame of reference, when you
      consider what had come before it, and that has since that we had yet to see.
      There goes that Time thing again! A picture of the artist painting a picture
      of the artist painting a picture...
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      Group: pota Message: 3962 From: Larry Montgomery Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Re: Larry Montgomery
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      Wow, I guess your right. Ah the good old days.

      Larry


      >From: LordTZer0@...
      >Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      >Subject: Re: [pota] Larry Montgomery
      >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:38:27 EST
      >
      >In a message dated 2/7/01 11:20:01 AM Central Standard Time,
      >afryt4u@... writes:
      >
      ><< I have been a POTA fan ever since I first saw the movie at a drive in
      >back
      >in 1967
      > with my Mom and Dad. >>
      >
      > POTA wasn't release until '68, if I'm wrong and your drive-in had some
      >advanced screening, I apologize. I saw it first run spring of '68 with my
      >Dad. Sorry to be a stickler for detail Larry, but Heston didn't even see a
      >rough screening until Halloween of '67, and says it opened in New York on
      >February 15, 1968. Don't worry, I had to look it up myself . . . I was
      >very
      >young at the time too.

      _____
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      Group: pota Message: 3963 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Happy 33rd PLANET OF THE APES!
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      .htmlHey Everyone,

      On February 8th, 1968 "Planet of the Apes" had its World Premiere at the
      Capital Theatre in New York City.   So today, Feb. 8th 2001, is its 33rd
      Anniversary. (By the way, "2001: A Space Odyssey" had its world premiere in
      the same theatre on April 3, 1968)

      My name is Rory.  I was eight years old in 1968 and living on Long Island.  I
      can vividly recall coming home from school one day and watching on TV this
      strange commercial for a new movie.  It showed first three astronauts
      trekking across a wasteland, then suddenly this gorilla appeared (the Hunt
      Leader).  My eyes widened and my jaw dropped.  "What is this!"  I had to run
      out and tell my friends all about this commercial I had just seen.  In April,
      after "Planet" had finished its run in NYC and had opened wide, I finally saw
      this movie that was already an obsession with me.  I can remember thinking
      during the movie that since I saw Charlton Heston go to sleep in the
      beginning, he'd probably wake up at the end and discover it was all a dream.  
      For that reason the ending came as a tremendous shock to me and I remember
      leaving the theatre numb and almost unable to speak.  On other movie has ever
      had the impact of "Planet of the Apes" for me.  This is one reason why I
      doubt I'll like the new movie no matter how good it is.  I only hope it's a
      hit so it focuses new attention on the original.

      Hey, does anyone out there know the date "Planet of the Apes" opened in Los
      Angeles in 1968?

      Thanks.
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      Group: pota Message: 3964 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: Happy 33rd PLANET OF THE APES!
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      Its funny how time slips by, tomorrow is the 37th anniversary of the Beatles appearing on the Ed Sullivan show.
       
      Boy the 60's were great!
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      Group: pota Message: 3965 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/7/2001
      Subject: kim hunter.com
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      you have to watch out registering www.kimhunter.com without her permission, though of course she might be flattered too!
       
      Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 9:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Ban the Bri

      I've reserved
      www.kimhunter.com in hopes of starting an on-line museum, but since a good
      deal of my spare change goes to my collections, I could use any advice about
      cheap cyber real-estate and inexpensive page maker programs.
       
       
       
      Cheapest way to go T is free server. The only problem is that you would have to put up with their advertisment banners. (I personaly can't stand them, and also I can't have a free server because I deal in multimedia, and you do need a great deal of hard drive space and bandwidth space to run such a site)But it is the cheapest way to go.
       
      I have about 500 megs of space, with about 300 megs held just for the remake stuff soon to be coming out. But if you want to pay, you maybe able to get something as cheap as $15.00 a month for about 30 megs or so. Just go to your favorite search engine and type out "free server" or "web hosting".
       
      As for creating a site, just go to your local software store and pick up the best page maker you can find or afford. There all quite simple to use, the hardest part is being creative. For what you will create is waht you will display on the web. But you will find that with time practice you will get better at it.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex 
       
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3966 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Terry Hoknes - bio
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      I'm Terry Hoknes, president of the POTA International Fan Club
      and overall huge apes fan.  Born in Saskatchewan, Canada in January 1971 where I still live.
       
      First saw POTA on tv after school around 1977.  Not sure if it was the tv series of a film, either would be strange to see after school in that year??
       
      I also deal in collectibles, mainly print matter so I collect and deal in POTA comics, magazines, fanzines, paperbacks, books
       
      Don't have the budget or room to collect the toys etc though they are very cool!
       
      I created the fan club after numerous letters of mine were published in the POTA Adventure comics back in 1991.  The fanzine and club was started in December 1991.  I moved it online in May 1998.  We have now had 35000 visitors to our site and the new movie is going to skyrocket the hits!
       
      Not married, no kids!       I am also a musician/performer and live with my touring partner/girlfriend, Marilyn Parney, Canada's Singing Cowgirl www.dlcwest.com/~comicsape/marilyn.htm
       
      I am a songwriter/producer/multi-instrumentalist and am releasing a new CD next month under the name "HOKNES".  More on that project at
       
      I also am one of the biggest hit song/mp3 collectors in the world with a collection of approx 25,000 songs and every hit song to break the top 20 in the USA during the last 40 years!
       
      The new POTA movie is going to be amazing and do wonders in terms of giving the old POTA exposure.
       
      Due to my age, I grew up a Star Wars fanatic but POTA always interested me maybe due to the fact that the whole concept could be studied and learned and wasn't overpopulated and exposed like SW and ST are.
       
      Our fan club publishes a fanzine called Ape Chronicles.  #37 is tentatively due this month.     Due to my busy lifestyle and traveling our publishing schedule is very sporadic but they always eventually turn up.
       
      I am always looking for submissions of reviews, artwork, original stories, pictures, stories relating to POTA for our website and for our fanzine.
       
       
      Please send in your bio!
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      Group: pota Message: 3967 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
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      In a message dated 2/7/01 5:46:33 PM Central Standard Time,
      JSe3689836@... writes:

      << This is John from Long Island >>
      We shall have to call you Long John, from Treasure Island.
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      Group: pota Message: 3968 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: webstuff
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      Thanks Alex,

      I'll have to put only the best stuff on to save space. I have some extras of
      the more common items. I'll offer those for sale to help offset the costs.
      Of course I'd consider selling some the rare items, if the price was right,
      but I can't really imagine that happening. Who would pay more than me?


      T
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      Group: pota Message: 3969 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: webstuff
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      of course if you want to try and sell your stuff quickly there is always ebay to help out
      not sure if you would get your money all back if you did pay highly for your stuff!
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      Group: pota Message: 3970 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: Happy 33rd PLANET OF THE APES!
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      In Heston's book The Actors Life which appears as a series of journal
      entries, he mentions the Apes NY opening on Feb. 15th and again on Mar 2nd.
      Then he talks about doing Sullivan en route to a quick European your ahead of
      the openings there. You'd think he'd mention LA's opening since he lives
      there.
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      Group: pota Message: 3971 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: webstuff
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      In a message dated 2/8/01 12:49:59 AM Central Standard Time,
      comicsape@... writes:

      << not sure if you would get your money all back if you did pay highly for
      your stuff!>>

      Some of the items were a bargain! For example a huge Betrayed poster from
      France. On the other hand, I ended up in a bidding war over the famous
      Zirographer photo from Beneath and ended up paying top dollar for that one.
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      Group: pota Message: 3972 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: webstuff
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      T

      Do you have a list of what is in your collection?

      Michael


      -----Original Message-----
      From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
      Sent: Thursday, 8 February 2001 17:42
      To: pota@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [pota] webstuff


      Thanks Alex,

      I'll have to put only the best stuff on to save space. I have some extras
      of
      the more common items. I'll offer those for sale to help offset the costs.
      Of course I'd consider selling some the rare items, if the price was right,
      but I can't really imagine that happening. Who would pay more than me?


      T
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      Group: pota Message: 3973 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: kim hunter.com
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      In a message dated 2/7/01 11:55:03 PM Central Standard Time,
      comicsape@... writes:

      << you have to watch out registering www.kimhunter.com without her
      permission, though of course she might be flattered too! >>

      That, of course, is up to her. Whatever she decides, goes. I'm just holding
      it for her. I hate to see these domain name profiteers. I can understand if
      it's a corporation . . . but someone's name? That just wrong. I don't
      expect to make a penny, quite the reverse in fact.
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      Group: pota Message: 3974 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: kim hunter.com
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      well good luck
       
      someone else had mentioned about reserving
      theplanetoftheapes.com
       
      i have also thought of doing somethin similar but wasnt sure about whats right to do
       
      bruce springsteen lost a case this week to win brucespringstee.com
       
      the site is being used by fans to promote his career and therefore the judge said they did not use the site for any other reason than to positively promote him so he let them keep it!!
       

      ***********************************************
      Please note I will be away Feb 14-26
       
      TERRY HOKNES
      Box 613
      Dalmeny, SK
      Canada
      S0K 1E0
       
       
      EBAY USER ID  hoknes
      ICQ #21857520
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:18 AM
      Subject: Re: [pota] kim hunter.com

      In a message dated 2/7/01 11:55:03 PM Central Standard Time,
      comicsape@... writes:

      << you have to watch out registering www.kimhunter.com without her
      permission, though of course she might be flattered too!  >>

      That, of course, is up to her.  Whatever she decides, goes.  I'm just holding
      it for her.  I hate to see these domain name profiteers.  I can understand if
      it's a corporation . . . but someone's name?  That just wrong.  I don't
      expect to make a penny, quite the reverse in fact.

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      Group: pota Message: 3975 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: webstuff
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      In a message dated 2/8/01 1:04:43 AM Central Standard Time,
      whitty@... writes:

      << Do you have a list of what is in your collection? >>

      No, I should make one when I find the time. Though I'm not sure the group
      would be interested, as most of it isn't Apes related. Some are unique, like
      a star card from inside a Danish cereal box in the 40s and a record from the
      60s of her reading poems. By the way, if anyone has her Simon and Schuster
      reading of The Velveteen Rabbit, I'm buying! Also videos of Storm Center,
      You Came Along, Anything Can Happen or Betrayed. They are the holy grails
      for Hunter hunters.
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      Group: pota Message: 3976 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Ape Man's Burden (bio)
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        Happy 33rd anniversary to "Planet of the Apes" and it's fans. I'm Jeff Krueger. My e-mails to this group are sporadic since I don't currently have a computer but can use one when I visit my folks.
       
        I remember seeing a TV commercial for an "Apes" movie (maybe "Battle") and was taken with the makeup. Later, my babysitter tuned in "Escape", perhaps it's TV premiere. I don't remember what I was doing but I came in when they're towing the ship out of the water. When the apes took off their helmets a jolt went through my body: there's that makeup again! I loved the movie but unfortunately I fell asleep. When I learned how it ended (the apes being killed but their baby switched) I was pissed I missed it! I also recall not really believing that account, movies don't end that way. But it stayed in my mind and eventually the TV series began, a weekly dosage that got me hooked. Of course that was also the era of the merchandising and Birthday/Christmas '74 had a particularly simian bent. Just as quickly, it was gone. The show was cancelled, the toys broke, the trash can dented and "Jaws" grabbed my attention. I enjoyed watching "Apes" when it turned up on Tv but otherwise it just became a memory. A very vivid memory, though, because I've always connected to "Apes" in a personal way. Alot of my own interests and concerns are covered in it, from my distaste for religious and political dogma to my affinity for animals to my interest in storytelling and movie making, and everything in between. For a long time, "Apes" seemed gone but not forgotten.
       
       Slowly it came back. In '82 I found a copy of Boulle's book and soon after some of the novelizations in used book stores. In '85 I started collecting Marvel's "Apes" magazines (which I didn't know about as a kid). But in a way I got back "into" it because of Mr. Tim Burton. A friend of mine was into Batman, collecting the comic books. In '88 Batfans were awaiting Burton's latest opus, not unlike the interest in Burton's current film by a segment of the population. Anyway, my friend started dragging me to sci-fi conventions. I remember standing next to "Batman" creator Bob Kane as a convention previewed the film, I think it was the trailer. Fans were thrilled that they got Jack Nicolson. Meanwhile, at these conventions I started collecting the "Apes" trading cards, some posters, and a hardcover of Boulle's book. Nothing extravagent, but it was cool to have these physical representations of something that I so connected with. Also, my friend took me to a video store that had "Apes" videos, so I copied them ("Apes" videos were like $60 back then, and didn't want the bastardized version shown on commercial TV). Having "Apes" on video seemed like a major victory.
       
        OK, around that time (late '80's) I first heard about a new "Apes" movie was in the works. In 1990 the Adventure comics appeared, a big turning point (new stories!). And through the comics I learned of Terry Hoknes' plans for a fan club. During the '90's I researched alot of stuff for articles I hope to finally get out this year; this research deepened my respect for the themes and issues in the films. Through the club I also met people like Eric Greene and Scott Essman. I helped Eric do book signings when his book came out in '96, through which I became friends with people like Booth Colman, Buck Kartalian and Bill Blake. Bill actually made a monkey out of me for one signing. Essman invited me to his John Chambers tribute in '97, and asked me to design John's birthday cake for a '98 tribute. I've visited John since (most memorably with Bill Blake and Natalie Trundy). Also in '98 I got the opportunity to go to the 30th Anniversary party, where I met Natalie Trundy and we've since become good friends. Meanwhile, during all this "Apes" came back in a big way , with filmmakers like Oliver Stone, James Cameron and Tim Burton (all cinematic heroes of mine) involved with a new moviek, a fantastic (2 HOUR!) documentary, etc. etc. etc. For over a decade now I've been involved with "Apes" as a hobby and each year just seems to get better and better.
       
        Most incredible are the friends I've made, from celebrities to collectors to people who just plain love life and see "Apes" as an expression of this. And now this e-group which is a continuing source of fun and fascination. What a ride it's been!
       
        Anyway, that's me. A condensed version of this e-mail is available from Reader's Digest.
       
                                                        - - - Jeff Krueger
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Ban the Bri

      I've reserved
      www.kimhunter.com in hopes of starting an on-line museum, but since a good
      deal of my spare change goes to my collections, I could use any advice about
      cheap cyber real-estate and inexpensive page maker programs.
       
       
       
      Cheapest way to go T is free server. The only problem is that you would have to put up with their advertisment banners. (I personaly can't stand them, and also I can't have a free server because I deal in multimedia, and you do need a great deal of hard drive space and bandwidth space to run such a site)But it is the cheapest way to go.
       
      I have about 500 megs of space, with about 300 megs held just for the remake stuff soon to be coming out. But if you want to pay, you maybe able to get something as cheap as $15.00 a month for about 30 megs or so. Just go to your favorite search engine and type out "free server" or "web hosting".
       
      As for creating a site, just go to your local software store and pick up the best page maker you can find or afford. There all quite simple to use, the hardest part is being creative. For what you will create is waht you will display on the web. But you will find that with time practice you will get better at it.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex 
       
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3977 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Trailer
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        My own suspicion is that the first "Apes" trailer will arrive with Fox's "Monkey Bone". This is cool because it's directed by Henry Selick, who went to school with Burton and dicted "Nightmare Before Christmas" and "James and the Giant Peach" for him. I reckon the trailer might be previewed on the show "Access Hollywood" (Fox owned) like "X-Men" was last year. - - - Jeff Krueger
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Ban the Bri

      I've reserved
      www.kimhunter.com in hopes of starting an on-line museum, but since a good
      deal of my spare change goes to my collections, I could use any advice about
      cheap cyber real-estate and inexpensive page maker programs.
       
       
       
      Cheapest way to go T is free server. The only problem is that you would have to put up with their advertisment banners. (I personaly can't stand them, and also I can't have a free server because I deal in multimedia, and you do need a great deal of hard drive space and bandwidth space to run such a site)But it is the cheapest way to go.
       
      I have about 500 megs of space, with about 300 megs held just for the remake stuff soon to be coming out. But if you want to pay, you maybe able to get something as cheap as $15.00 a month for about 30 megs or so. Just go to your favorite search engine and type out "free server" or "web hosting".
       
      As for creating a site, just go to your local software store and pick up the best page maker you can find or afford. There all quite simple to use, the hardest part is being creative. For what you will create is waht you will display on the web. But you will find that with time practice you will get better at it.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex 
       
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3978 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: e-bay
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      Those blueprints from the new movie are on e-bay again. Didn't they pull that? - - - Jeff Krueger
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 7:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Ban the Bri

      I've reserved
      www.kimhunter.com in hopes of starting an on-line museum, but since a good
      deal of my spare change goes to my collections, I could use any advice about
      cheap cyber real-estate and inexpensive page maker programs.
       
       
       
      Cheapest way to go T is free server. The only problem is that you would have to put up with their advertisment banners. (I personaly can't stand them, and also I can't have a free server because I deal in multimedia, and you do need a great deal of hard drive space and bandwidth space to run such a site)But it is the cheapest way to go.
       
      I have about 500 megs of space, with about 300 megs held just for the remake stuff soon to be coming out. But if you want to pay, you maybe able to get something as cheap as $15.00 a month for about 30 megs or so. Just go to your favorite search engine and type out "free server" or "web hosting".
       
      As for creating a site, just go to your local software store and pick up the best page maker you can find or afford. There all quite simple to use, the hardest part is being creative. For what you will create is waht you will display on the web. But you will find that with time practice you will get better at it.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex 
       
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3979 From: jameshburns@webtv.net Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: For Lord T...
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      LordT: No need to apologize for any "ranting and raving"--

      Some of us found it amusing!

      :-)

      'Belated best wishes for the New Year!

      Best, Jim Burns
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      Group: pota Message: 3980 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: Ape Man's Burden (bio)
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      Wow Jeff,

      You certainly have led a charmed ape life. I too had loads of ape stuff as a
      kid. Most was lost in the mists of time, but a lot has been replaced at
      great expense. If I had know it was going to appreciate I would have taken
      better care of it. I checked the book out of the library and looked up every
      article written. I bought the novels and masks, anything else I could get my
      hands on. Before they had foam kits I was sculpting appliances in clay and
      coating them in latex. Making hair goods out of fake fur and blending my own
      hair in one strand at a time. My folks got me some publicity stills from Fox
      of Beneath of which my fave was the one where Zira examines Brent and Nova.
      I was fascinated the way Kim Hunter could project her through the make up,
      and I would spot those expressive eyes and soothing voice on TV in other
      films and shows. The first time without even knowing what she looked like.
      Several years ago, thanks to the Internet, I found out she had written Loose
      In The Kitchen. Had I know before I have bought it when it was first
      published. I started to contact her shortly after reading that. What kind
      of fan am I? I asked myself . . . All I have are a few Ape pictures. So,
      again thanks to the Internet, I began collecting everything I could get!
      Now, I dare say, I have one of, if not the, best collection of Kim Hunter
      memorabilia around! Though much is not Apes related, of the ape stuff my
      faves are the behind the scenes ones, where she's reading a book or having a
      smoke. I just saw a couple of photos on eBay through Butterfields they were
      asking top dollar for. I'm happy to say I've gotten better for less. Though
      I paid more for the one of her lensing a shot in the camera of the Ape City
      Coliseum. The originals will always have a special place in my heart. I'll
      go see the new movie, maybe more than once. But it can't be better than the
      originals -- Not for me! How could it be? No Zira...No Kim.
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      Group: pota Message: 3981 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: For Lord T...
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      In a message dated 2/8/01 7:19:51 AM Central Standard Time,
      jameshburns@... writes:

      << Some of us found it amusing!

      :-) >>

      Thanks Jim!
      I'll find something to go off on as long as it's appreciated.
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      Group: pota Message: 3982 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: kim hunter.com
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      well good luck
       
      someone else had mentioned about reserving
      theplanetoftheapes.com
       
      i have also thought of doing somethin similar but wasnt sure about whats right to do
       
      bruce springsteen lost a case this week to win brucespringstee.com
       
      the site is being used by fans to promote his career and therefore the judge said they did not use the site for any other reason than to positively promote him so he let them keep it!!
       
      Well for those looking for a good domain name:
      simianworld.com is a good idea.
       
      I believe it's up for grabs.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3983 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: e-bay
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      Those blueprints from the new movie are on e-bay again. Didn't they pull that? - - - Jeff Krueger
       
       
      Well, the auction was pulled off of e-bay the first time.
      But maybe the guy ended up clearing the air and had approval if he returned it to ebay. I believe he has more than one type of blueprint.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex
       
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      Group: pota Message: 3984 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Hunter becomes the hunted
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      LordT - - -

      I've heard descriptions from the set that Bonham-Carter looks like Kim
      Hunter in makeup. But I'm sure that wouldn't sway you. Before they even
      started filming, Kim said she wouldn't participate if asked. She's been the
      most vocal opponent of the remake that I've heard. She also turned down a
      request to be in the TV series. That's why I find it odd reports that she'll
      do a convention when the movie comes out. As far as I know she doesn't do
      conventions; her love is theatre.
      But you couldn't ask for a sweeter lady. I met her at the 30th anniversary
      thing and have written her the last few Christmases. She always writes back,
      and I've heard from others she's good at fulfilling requests like autographs
      and such. She's one of the all time favorites for "Ape" fans. - - - - Jeff
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <LordTZer0@...>
      To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:36 AM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Ape Man's Burden (bio)


      >
      >
      > Wow Jeff,
      >
      > You certainly have led a charmed ape life. I too had loads of ape stuff
      as a
      > kid. Most was lost in the mists of time, but a lot has been replaced at
      > great expense. If I had know it was going to appreciate I would have
      taken
      > better care of it. I checked the book out of the library and looked up
      every
      > article written. I bought the novels and masks, anything else I could get
      my
      > hands on. Before they had foam kits I was sculpting appliances in clay
      and
      > coating them in latex. Making hair goods out of fake fur and blending my
      own
      > hair in one strand at a time. My folks got me some publicity stills from
      Fox
      > of Beneath of which my fave was the one where Zira examines Brent and
      Nova.
      > I was fascinated the way Kim Hunter could project her through the make up,
      > and I would spot those expressive eyes and soothing voice on TV in other
      > films and shows. The first time without even knowing what she looked
      like.
      > Several years ago, thanks to the Internet, I found out she had written
      Loose
      > In The Kitchen. Had I know before I have bought it when it was first
      > published. I started to contact her shortly after reading that. What
      kind
      > of fan am I? I asked myself . . . All I have are a few Ape pictures. So,
      > again thanks to the Internet, I began collecting everything I could get!
      > Now, I dare say, I have one of, if not the, best collection of Kim Hunter
      > memorabilia around! Though much is not Apes related, of the ape stuff my
      > faves are the behind the scenes ones, where she's reading a book or having
      a
      > smoke. I just saw a couple of photos on eBay through Butterfields they
      were
      > asking top dollar for. I'm happy to say I've gotten better for less.
      Though
      > I paid more for the one of her lensing a shot in the camera of the Ape
      City
      > Coliseum. The originals will always have a special place in my heart.
      I'll
      > go see the new movie, maybe more than once. But it can't be better than
      the
      > originals -- Not for me! How could it be? No Zira...No Kim.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3985 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: What's in a name.com?
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        If I were doing a site, I'd probably use a line of dialogue, like damndirtyapes.com or youmaniacs.net. If Alex and Brian are willing to help we could do a "Josie and the Pussycats" site that would truly rock. OK, perhaps not. - - - Jeff
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 7:30 AM
      Subject: Re: [pota] kim hunter.com

      well good luck
       
      someone else had mentioned about reserving
      theplanetoftheapes.com
       
      i have also thought of doing somethin similar but wasnt sure about whats right to do
       
      bruce springsteen lost a case this week to win brucespringstee.com
       
      the site is being used by fans to promote his career and therefore the judge said they did not use the site for any other reason than to positively promote him so he let them keep it!!
       
      Well for those looking for a good domain name:
      simianworld.com is a good idea.
       
      I believe it's up for grabs.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex

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      Group: pota Message: 3986 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: Heston to appear in THE LAST MAN CLUB
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      Thanks for the site link, Brian. What's interesting is the bio for Heston's
      son Fraser. Pretty much everything is with his dad, including that Bible
      series. It's cool they can work together. - - - - Jeff
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Brian Dumont" <afryt4u@...>
      To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:48 PM
      Subject: [pota] Heston to appear in THE LAST MAN CLUB


      > Chuck Heston apparently will be starring in a new film is about the last
      > hurrah of four aging "greatest generation" survivors of a World War II
      > B-17 bomber crew. Here's the link for more info
      > <http://www.lastmanclub.com>
      >
      > Brian
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3987 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Giving "Apes" a "Fair" shake
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      .html I never thought I'd say this, but "Vanity Fair" rocks! Go to movieheadlines.net  to see the new pics and then pick up the issue. - - - Jeff Krueger
      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:48 PM
      Subject: Re: [pota] Taylor's Spaceship Project Update

      Hey Guys,

      I just had to  chime in here.  They only built one full size Ick.  Contact Phil Broad, who is the last known model maker to have extensively foto-documeneted the ship <http://icarus.simplenet.com/> he has a whole series of pages on his site with FANTASTIC photos that he personally took of the ship while it was sitting on FOX's backlot.

      Brian

      Ken & Heather Taylor wrote:

      "What about Escape?  They had the whole thing out of the water.  You see the
      entire ship there."

      Which brings us to another point, Is the ship in "Escape" the same as the one in
      "Planet"? The hatch is in a different position and it doesn't appear to be as big
      as the ship seen in "Planet". The "Escape" ship certainly looks to be the same as
      the one used in the TV series pilot.

      Best,
      KEN

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      Group: pota Message: 3988 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: e-bay
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      ebay does not like "bootlegged" or "stolen" material listed
      perhaps it is a different guy selling ANOTHER copy of it
      otherwise the same guy is taking a big risk by posting it - they will shut him down again if they catch it.
       
       
      Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:34 AM
      Subject: Re: [pota] e-bay

      Those blueprints from the new movie are on e-bay again. Didn't they pull that? - - - Jeff Krueger
       
       
      Well, the auction was pulled off of e-bay the first time.
      But maybe the guy ended up clearing the air and had approval if he returned it to ebay. I believe he has more than one type of blueprint.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex
       

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      Group: pota Message: 3989 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: Ban the Bri
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      LordTZer0@... <LordTZer0@...> wrote:
      >far a this group being the bollocks, last time I was in London, that was a
      >bad thing. Maybe that was a "load of bollocks" that was bad.

      The difference is in the wee word "the".

      "It's bollocks" = it's bad.
      "It's the bollocks" = it's good.

      I've noticed much the same with rappers - why exactly is something "sh*t"
      when it's bad but "the sh*t" if it's good?

      Oh well. Before I lower the tone even further, I'll just go and write up my
      contribution to the whole "who am I" thing.

      Alan
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      Group: pota Message: 3990 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Who am I?
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      Okay, let's see... I'm Alan and I'm with Dave Ballard in the UK PotA gang
      (inflated prices and all) but from the other side of the border (about 15
      miles north of Edinburgh to be precise). Whisky, haggis, Jimmy Shand and
      bagpipes are all great, and I am tight-fisted, but alas I don't have ginger
      hair or an affinity with tartan. And if we're using local dialect then I
      would like to back Dave up and say that this group is indeed "the dug's
      baws".

      Born in 1977, I avoided apemania (the phenomenon, not the lovely make-up
      guys) but still grew up with a love of sci-fi. Like almost every kid my age,
      I loved the Star Wars films and played with the toys, read the comics, etc.

      However, unlike most of the other kids my age, I also had a love of old
      dinosaur movies, particularly the kind that featured Doug McLure rescuing a
      damsel in distress, watching all his friends being eaten by monsters and
      then making it out while it falls down around him. This in turn led to me
      being fixed to the TV every Saturday afternoon when ITV in Scotland showed a
      series of films under the banner "Lost Worlds".

      In retrospect, quite what "Battle For The Planet of the Apes" was doing in a
      "lost world" series of films I don't know, but I'm glad it was there. I was
      instantly hooked. The original was later shown as a late-night double bill
      with Beneath, but I missed the ending of the first one (missed the ending of
      the original and I still loved it!!). I saw Conquest a couple of times next,
      and managed to get it and Battle on tape. Being just a young lad, it never
      occurred to me to hunt for videos of the films, so I eagerly awaited them on
      TV.

      I got the original on tape (blown away by the ending despite having seen a
      couple of sequels) then a few years later got "Beneath" on tape too - it was
      the second last one I saw and I loved it immensely. It took a while, but I
      eventually saw "Escape", which I don't like as much but still really enjoy.

      In the early 90s, my interest in comics took me to the Adventure series (and
      later to old Marvel mags) where I found out about Ape Chronicles, which in
      turn tuned me in to PotA fandom. Saw the TV series shortly after, but sadly
      have yet to see the cartoon series.

      My love of the series has spiralled out of control ever since, and still
      regularly get ribbed by my friends about my obsession... and I love every
      minute of it. I am also insanely jealous of Brian's job and Jeff's
      hob-nobbing with the stars. Still, I hear some Scottish guy is writing a
      book on PotA, maybe I can track him down - I've just had an idea for a
      photoshoot involving some kilted gorillas...

      Alan
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      Group: pota Message: 3991 From: Jack Krueger Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: "Fair" warning
      .html
      Whoa, Pardners! For those who plan to run out and scoop up the "Vanity Fair"
      "Ape" issue, watch out. I checked and the only issue I saw was Feb. 2001
      (Keanu Reeves on the cover). This is in a plastic bag but I found one that
      was opened and there were no "Apes" pictures. I guess those are in the March
      issue which I assume is imminent. Meanwhile, enjoy the pictures on the
      net. - - - Jeff Krueger
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Alan Maxwell" <alan@...>
      To: "Apes List" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:14 PM
      Subject: [pota] Who am I?


      > Okay, let's see... I'm Alan and I'm with Dave Ballard in the UK PotA gang
      > (inflated prices and all) but from the other side of the border (about 15
      > miles north of Edinburgh to be precise). Whisky, haggis, Jimmy Shand and
      > bagpipes are all great, and I am tight-fisted, but alas I don't have
      ginger
      > hair or an affinity with tartan. And if we're using local dialect then I
      > would like to back Dave up and say that this group is indeed "the dug's
      > baws".
      >
      > Born in 1977, I avoided apemania (the phenomenon, not the lovely make-up
      > guys) but still grew up with a love of sci-fi. Like almost every kid my
      age,
      > I loved the Star Wars films and played with the toys, read the comics,
      etc.
      >
      > However, unlike most of the other kids my age, I also had a love of old
      > dinosaur movies, particularly the kind that featured Doug McLure rescuing
      a
      > damsel in distress, watching all his friends being eaten by monsters and
      > then making it out while it falls down around him. This in turn led to me
      > being fixed to the TV every Saturday afternoon when ITV in Scotland showed
      a
      > series of films under the banner "Lost Worlds".
      >
      > In retrospect, quite what "Battle For The Planet of the Apes" was doing in
      a
      > "lost world" series of films I don't know, but I'm glad it was there. I
      was
      > instantly hooked. The original was later shown as a late-night double bill
      > with Beneath, but I missed the ending of the first one (missed the ending
      of
      > the original and I still loved it!!). I saw Conquest a couple of times
      next,
      > and managed to get it and Battle on tape. Being just a young lad, it never
      > occurred to me to hunt for videos of the films, so I eagerly awaited them
      on
      > TV.
      >
      > I got the original on tape (blown away by the ending despite having seen a
      > couple of sequels) then a few years later got "Beneath" on tape too - it
      was
      > the second last one I saw and I loved it immensely. It took a while, but I
      > eventually saw "Escape", which I don't like as much but still really
      enjoy.
      >
      > In the early 90s, my interest in comics took me to the Adventure series
      (and
      > later to old Marvel mags) where I found out about Ape Chronicles, which in
      > turn tuned me in to PotA fandom. Saw the TV series shortly after, but
      sadly
      > have yet to see the cartoon series.
      >
      > My love of the series has spiralled out of control ever since, and still
      > regularly get ribbed by my friends about my obsession... and I love every
      > minute of it. I am also insanely jealous of Brian's job and Jeff's
      > hob-nobbing with the stars. Still, I hear some Scottish guy is writing a
      > book on PotA, maybe I can track him down - I've just had an idea for a
      > photoshoot involving some kilted gorillas...
      >
      > Alan
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
      >
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      Group: pota Message: 3992 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: e-bay
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      ebay does not like "bootlegged" or "stolen" material listed
      perhaps it is a different guy selling ANOTHER copy of it
      otherwise the same guy is taking a big risk by posting it - they will shut him down again if they catch it.
       
       Well, I really wouldn't doubt it.
       
      Best,
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3993 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: "Fair" warning
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      .html
      Whoa, Pardners! For those who plan to run out and scoop up the "Vanity Fair"
      "Ape" issue, watch out. I checked and the only issue I saw was Feb. 2001
      (Keanu Reeves on the cover). This is in a plastic bag but I found one that
      was opened and there were no "Apes" pictures. I guess those are in the March
      issue which I assume is imminent. Meanwhile, enjoy the pictures on the
      net. - - - Jeff Krueger
       
      Thanks Jeff.
      When it does come out, I'll be sure to buy up plenty of issues!
       
      Best,
       
      Alex 
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      Group: pota Message: 3994 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: Hunter becomes the hunted
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      In a message dated 2/8/01 11:29:05 AM Central Standard Time,
      williejoe@... writes:

      << I've heard descriptions from the set that Bonham-Carter looks like Kim
      Hunter in makeup. But I'm sure that wouldn't sway you. >>

      You're right, it doesn't. I guess she looks like her except with eyebrows,
      and without hazel eyes, and a different nose, and different hair. You know,
      come to think of it ... She looks nothing like her.

      Yeah, Kim was so uncomfortable with the make-up her doctor recommended a
      sedative before sitting down in the make-up chair. The one time when she did
      feel ready to face the day without help, her make-up man told her if she ever
      tried that again she could find herself a new one. Even if she was all for a
      remake, the best any director could hope for, is a voice over.
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      Group: pota Message: 3995 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/8/2001
      Subject: Re: Who am I?
      .html
      << and still regularly get ribbed by my friends about my obsession... and I
      love every
      minute of it. I am also insanely jealous of Brian's job and Jeff's
      hob-nobbing with the stars. >>

      Don't we all. You either get it or you don't. It's not something you can
      explain to people. BTW, I made a supplemental post yesterday that has yet to
      appear. Similar complaints have been made over at the Buckaroo Banzai group
      as well as others. What is with Yahoo?
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      Group: pota Message: 3996 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2001
      Subject: Re: Giving "Apes" a "Fair" shake
      .html
      Man, Buton is looking like Xavier Cugat with that Chihuahua!
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      Group: pota Message: 3997 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/9/2001
      Subject: Re: Ape Man's Burden (bio)
      .html
      Jeff certainly has led a charmed ape life. I too had loads of ape stuff as a
      kid. Most was lost in the mists of time, but a lot has been replaced at
      great expense. If I had know it was going to appreciate in value I would
      have taken better care of it. I checked the book out of the library and
      looked up every article written about POTA. I bought the novels, anything
      else I could get my hands on. Before they had foam kits I was sculpting
      appliances in clay and coating them in latex. My folks got me some publicity
      stills from Fox of Beneath of which my fave was the one where Zira examines
      Brent and Nova. I was fascinated the way Kim Hunter could project through
      the make up, and I would spot those eyes and that voice on TV in other films
      and shows. The first time without even knowing what she looked like, I knew
      it was her.

      Several years ago, thanks to the Internet, I found out she had written Loose
      In The Kitchen. I started to contacting her shortly after reading that.
      "What kind of fan am I?" I asked myself . . . All I have are a few pics from
      Apes. So, again thanks to the Internet, I began collecting everything I
      could get! Now, I dare say, I have one of, if not the, best collections of
      Kim Hunter memorabilia. Though much isn't Apes related, of the ape stuff, my
      faves are the behind the scenes ones, where she's reading a book or having a
      smoke. The originals will always have a special place in my heart. Nothing
      against the new movie, I'll go see it, maybe more than once. But it can't be
      better than the originals -- Not for me. How could it be? No Zira...No Kim.
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      Group: pota Message: 3998 From: Alexander Ruiz Date: 2/9/2001
      Subject: Re: Who am I?
      .html
      .html
      BTW, I made a supplemental post yesterday that has yet to
      appear. 
       
      Yeah tell me about it, I hate when a second post appears before the first post.
      And sometimes even longer than that.
       
      Crazy.
       
      Alex
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      Group: pota Message: 3999 From: Mark Gould Date: 2/9/2001
      Subject: Bio
      .html
      Hi,

      I'm Mark and I'm part of the UK ape troop. Born '69, I must have seen the
      series when I was a Kid, and probably the Films back then. Only joined the
      group in 2000 I think, after a local station had an Apes weekend, showin the
      first three films. I suppose I'm an odball fan, in that I have no
      collectibles, and only possess two apes book. As for me, I live by myself,
      and when I'm not working for the space industry, I write music (have it
      performed in a few places too - its contemporary classical).

      Some have noticed the philosophical tone to my posts; I find the inversion
      of intelligence and the social satire endlessley fascinating. That's what
      makes me an apes fan.

      I still think the original makeup is the best.

      Mark

      P.S. I wrote a vaguely apes-related novel last year, as some might possibly
      know.
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      Group: pota Message: 4000 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/9/2001
      Subject: Trailer
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      Well

      Does anyone want to have a "Quicktime" version of the trailer sent to them
      before it is released at the movies?

      I thought so.

      Go to:

      http://www.foxmovies.com.au/home.asp

      Then select "Coming Soon" and a window will appear......I'll let you see
      what happens.

      Thanks to Ken Taylor for the heads up!

      Michael
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      Group: pota Message: 4001 From: Ken & Heather Taylor Date: 2/9/2001
      Subject: Re: e-bay
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      .html I believe that Fox's Liscencing and Merchandising department have some one who's job it is to check Ebay for such items and alert them if "stuff" shows up.
      Best,
      KEN

      Terry Hoknes wrote:

        ebay does not like "bootlegged" or "stolen" material listedperhaps it is a different guy selling ANOTHER copy of itotherwise the same guy is taking a big risk by posting it - they will shut him down again if they catch it.  From: Alexander Ruiz
      Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 9:34 AM
      Subject: Re: [pota] e-bay
       
      Those blueprints from the new movie are on e-bay again. Didn't they pull that? - - - Jeff Krueger  Well, the auction was pulled off of e-bay the first time.But maybe the guy ended up clearing the air and had approval if he returned it to ebay. I believe he has more than one type of blueprint. Best, Alex 
       

       
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      Group: pota Message: 4002 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/9/2001
      Subject: Collectibles - toys
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      Terry

      Thanks for the elaborate list! Believe it or not I have a few to add (the
      UK Whitman Puzzles, a new gun that has appeared on eBay, Gorilla Glasses to
      name a few) but I applaud you for your efforts!!!

      I have just had a read of "Beneath the Simian Scrolls" and I see there as an
      article on Model Kits by none other than our own Dave Ballard. I also have
      a kit you missed Dave - an ANSA spaceship that is neither of those you show
      (oh yeah I'm not sure if this one is on Terry's list too). I really like
      your article Dave - can I scan it and set up a link for the group to read
      it?

      Since kits have been covered I'm going to go on to a different topic - toys.

      Anyone have anything to contribute?

      Michael
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