Brian

Got any dirt about the variants yet?

Michael

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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:44 PM

Subject: [pota] Collectibles - toys

Terry

Thanks for the elaborate list!  Believe it or not I have a few to add (the
UK Whitman Puzzles, a new gun that has appeared on eBay, Gorilla Glasses to
name a few) but I applaud you for your efforts!!!

I have just had a read of "Beneath the Simian Scrolls" and I see there as an
article on Model Kits by none other than our own Dave Ballard.  I also have
a kit you missed Dave - an ANSA spaceship that is neither of those you show
(oh yeah I'm not sure if this one is on Terry's list too).  I really like
your article Dave - can I scan it and set up a link for the group to read
it?

Since kits have been covered I'm going to go on to a different topic - toys.

Anyone have anything to contribute?

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Hey kids,
For your info, I'm 37, married w/ an amazing 5 year old son ( Jake). We
live in Sydney , Australia and to use OUR local lingo:
"I reckon APES is Bonza!". Could be a slight exaggeration and I
apologize in advance for Crocodile Dundee 3.
I've been an APE fan since seeing Planet on TV in Feb. '75 as a
precursor to the TV series. I got into it right away, buying the Curtis
magazines and Mego dolls soon after. I met my best friend at school via
the TV series gum cards, swapping in the playground. I like the movies
in running order w/ Planet as my favourite etc.
These days I like to think I have a pretty comprehensive collection of
merchandise and have a few people to thank for helping me along the way.
You know who you are.
I now have a whole room dedicated to all things APE. You'd be amazed at
some of the absolute crap that was made back then that has a POTA
sticker slapped on it. There's a hand full of "high rollers" on Ebay who
push the prices up of anything remotely rare. As our Aussie dollar sucks
at the moment ( .55 cents to the US$) , I tend to let the others battle
it out.
I currently work at Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment but am
leaving on Feb 23rd after 16 years to pursue new ( yet to be determined)
challenges. I'm the Marketing Manager for Rental but got involved with
last year's TV series video releases.
No one else would have put in the time as we built the packaging from
scratch.
REALLY looking forward to the new film. I originally didn't want to
build any expectations so I wouldn't be disappointed.
So we''ll just have to see.
Even though I don't always contribute, I enjoy reading the group's
comments.
It's comforting to know that I'm not the only Ape fan.
Best,
KEN

Hey Ken, sounds super! No, your not the only Apes fan thats out there, but
I know how you feel. Since you work for 20th Century Fox, you wouldn't have
happened to have heard of what happened to the spaceship that was used in
the original POTA? I figure that it was probably cut up for scrap, but who
knows? Anyway welcome onboard.

Go Humans

Larry

>From: Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [pota] BIO
>Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:22:50 +1100
>
>Hey kids,
>For your info, I'm 37, married w/ an amazing 5 year old son ( Jake). We
>live in Sydney , Australia and to use OUR local lingo:
>"I reckon APES is Bonza!". Could be a slight exaggeration and I
>apologize in advance for Crocodile Dundee 3.
>I've been an APE fan since seeing Planet on TV in Feb. '75 as a
>precursor to the TV series. I got into it right away, buying the Curtis
>magazines and Mego dolls soon after. I met my best friend at school via
>the TV series gum cards, swapping in the playground. I like the movies
>in running order w/ Planet as my favourite etc.
>These days I like to think I have a pretty comprehensive collection of
>merchandise and have a few people to thank for helping me along the way.
>You know who you are.
>I now have a whole room dedicated to all things APE. You'd be amazed at
>some of the absolute crap that was made back then that has a POTA
>sticker slapped on it. There's a hand full of "high rollers" on Ebay who
>push the prices up of anything remotely rare. As our Aussie dollar sucks
>at the moment ( .55 cents to the US$) , I tend to let the others battle
>it out.
>I currently work at Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment but am
>leaving on Feb 23rd after 16 years to pursue new ( yet to be determined)
>challenges. I'm the Marketing Manager for Rental but got involved with
>last year's TV series video releases.
>No one else would have put in the time as we built the packaging from
>scratch.
>REALLY looking forward to the new film. I originally didn't want to
>build any expectations so I wouldn't be disappointed.
>So we''ll just have to see.
>Even though I don't always contribute, I enjoy reading the group's
>comments.
>It's comforting to know that I'm not the only Ape fan.
>Best,
>KEN
>
>
>

_____

Hey gang! I just got back from visiting family in Missouri and went to an
antique store there. I found 4 POTA books and record sets, one for each movie
but they didn't have a Conquest set and I don't think one was made. The
records aren't scratched and are like new but the books have some wear on the
covers but still look great. The inside pages are like new also. I paid $10
each for them. Does anyone know anything about these? They are like comic
books and I believe published by marvel. I remember having a few books like
these when I was a kid but I never had the POTA ones. (I had Spider-man,
Dracula, and Frankenstein I believe.) I would like to burn the records onto a
couple cd's but I need a record player and something to connect it to my
computer. I'd like to know if I got a good deal or not and how much they are
worth. Thanks!

Loc

P.S. At the same antique store's booth they had a POTA coloring book for $15.
I didn't get it since I didn't have enough money.

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Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:44 PM

Subject: [pota] Collectibles - toys

Terry

Thanks for the elaborate list!  Believe it or not I have a few to add (the
UK Whitman Puzzles, a new gun that has appeared on eBay, Gorilla Glasses to
name a few) but I applaud you for your efforts!!!

I have just had a read of "Beneath the Simian Scrolls" and I see there as an
article on Model Kits by none other than our own Dave Ballard.  I also have
a kit you missed Dave - an ANSA spaceship that is neither of those you show
(oh yeah I'm not sure if this one is on Terry's list too).  I really like
your article Dave - can I scan it and set up a link for the group to read
it?

Since kits have been covered I'm going to go on to a different topic - toys.

Anyone have anything to contribute?

Michael


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Hi Loc

I had these as a kid - they were available in most record stores. I
recently upgraded and bought a sealed set. They are not a particularly rare
item, but are official Planet of the Apes merchandise and therefore must be
had! You are right, a Conquest version was never made. A sealed set is a
lot harder to find but not much fun to examine (I still have the original
ones though thank goodness).

You will find a lot of the story content has been missed/modified in
comparison to the original movies. The audience is children and that is why
(and probably explains the absence of the Conquest version- too violent).

Same company made 3 "singles" containing stories from the TV Series and an
LP album containing these stories - but no graphic accompaniment.

There was also an LP album which compiled the 4 Movie adaptations (again
with no accompanying graphic books) - possibly another explanation as to why
no Conquest.

I would love to talk to an old exec from Power Records to get some answers
to these questions - anyone know where to start?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: locutusatwolf359@... [locutusatwolf359@...]
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:17
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!

Hey gang! I just got back from visiting family in Missouri and went to an
antique store there. I found 4 POTA books and record sets, one for each
movie
but they didn't have a Conquest set and I don't think one was made. The
records aren't scratched and are like new but the books have some wear on
the
covers but still look great. The inside pages are like new also. I paid $10
each for them. Does anyone know anything about these? They are like comic
books and I believe published by marvel. I remember having a few books like
these when I was a kid but I never had the POTA ones. (I had Spider-man,
Dracula, and Frankenstein I believe.) I would like to burn the records onto
a
couple cd's but I need a record player and something to connect it to my
computer. I'd like to know if I got a good deal or not and how much they are
worth. Thanks!

Loc

P.S. At the same antique store's booth they had a POTA coloring book for
$15.
I didn't get it since I didn't have enough money.

"I reckon APES is Bonza!".

"It's the bollocks!"

"the dug's baws".

Some better come up with a common language quick!

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Phil Broad said that a stuntman bought the Icarus right before FOX sold the lot off to land developers.  I believe it's somewhere in AZ now, but that is only a rumor.  The miniature (which was molded and duped during a restoration) sits as a centerpiece in Bill Creeber's (the POTA Production Designer) birdbath at his home here in LA.

Brian

Larry Montgomery wrote:

Hey Ken, sounds super!  No, your not the only Apes fan thats out there, but
I know how you feel.  Since you work for 20th Century Fox, you wouldn't have
happened to have heard of what happened to the spaceship that was used in
the original POTA?  I figure that it was probably cut up for scrap, but who
knows?  Anyway welcome onboard.

Go Humans

Larry

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B

Michael Whitty wrote:

Brian

Got any dirt about the variants yet?

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I'm sure I read somewhere that another miniature resides in the Bob
Burns museum?

Cool! Thanks for the info!

Loc

.html Last time I was at burns, i Did not see it.  Nautilus yes, Icarus, no.

B

PS:  One of the folks on this webgroup is has one of the castings, or so rumor has it.

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Brian:

Yes, I saw that on his website, but he thought that it was only a rumor.

Larry

>From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [pota] what happened to the spaceship
>Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:50:20 -0800
>
>Hey Larry,
>
>Phil Broad said that a stuntman bought the Icarus right before FOX sold the
>lot
>off to land developers. I believe it's somewhere in AZ now, but that is
>only a
>rumor. The miniature (which was molded and duped during a restoration)
>sits as
>a centerpiece in Bill Creeber's (the POTA Production Designer) birdbath at
>his
>home here in LA.
>
>Brian
>
>Larry Montgomery wrote:
>
> > Hey Ken, sounds super! No, your not the only Apes fan thats out there,
>but
> > I know how you feel. Since you work for 20th Century Fox, you wouldn't
>have
> > happened to have heard of what happened to the spaceship that was used
>in
> > the original POTA? I figure that it was probably cut up for scrap, but
>who
> > knows? Anyway welcome onboard.
> >
> > Go Humans
> >
> > Larry

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I guess it's up to us to contact FOX's Archives and find out who really ended up with, aye?

B

Larry Montgomery wrote:

Brian:

Yes, I saw that on his website, but he thought that it was only a rumor.

Larry

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On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 01:59:35 EST LordTZer0@... writes:

> Some of the items were a bargain! For example a huge Betrayed
> poster from France. On the other hand, I ended up in a bidding war

over the

> famous Zirographer photo from Beneath and ended up paying top dollar

for

> that one.

OK, what is this famous 'Zirographer' photo you speak of and how can I
see it? Ditto the Betrayed poster.


Chris L.
____

HOO HOO! Lets go get em!

>From: Brian Dumont <afryt4u@...>
>Reply-To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>To: pota@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [pota] Find the Icarus
>Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:56:55 -0800
>
>So Larry,
>
>I guess it's up to us to contact FOX's Archives and find out who really
>ended
>up with, aye?
>
>B
>
>Larry Montgomery wrote:
>
> > Brian:
> >
> > Yes, I saw that on his website, but he thought that it was only a rumor.
> >
> > Larry

_____

Hello again...

How do we search the archive? Any suggestions?

Larry
_____

.htmlDid anyone else happen to notice that the Icarus spaceship makes a guest
appearance in the film "The Illustrated Man" (1969)?   Well, it does.  That's
a Warner Brothers film, so they must have borrowed it from Fox.  I don't know
if it was used before the filming of "Beneath" or after, but it was painted
all white in "The Illustrated Man."

By the way, who would name anything that flies 'Icarus'?   Bad luck, if you
ask me.

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>From: "Mez Downes"

>

>Subject: [pota] Hi from a new 'old' fan

>

>Hey all, it's nice to find you guys! Brief intro: I'm an American

>living in England who's been a POTA fan forever; fave characters all

>have the name McDowall behind them (trend-spotters, I'm female); love

>the entire kit and kaboodle but am especially fond of the short-lived

>tv series. (Still wishing a pox on CBS...and hey, gee, it worked!)

>

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>From: "Alexander Ruiz"

>

>Subject: [pota] Memphis Festival

>

>Well not only will they have this great ape festival but no doubt there's going to be a lot of dealers selling POTA stuff. Stuff like "T.V. episode lost footage" as the one you all are speaking of.

>

>I was at a sci-fi convention a while back, the same I was talking to you about Lynne. And there was quite a few T.V. episodes for sale. But because I have them all as most of us do. I never did bother to check for that lost episode. Truth is I never even knew about until now. I may have seen it years ago, but it's been too long to remember. Although that cheezy description does ring a slight bell in some way. I think your best bet is to scope out the sci-fi conventions as well as this Memphis Festival.

>

>For some one has to have it.

>

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I'm hoping that Episode I was just a warm-up.  With the cool reception I think it was received with, maybe Mr. Lucas wil remember all of us that saw him through the first three and not treat us like...well, like we don't exist.  I didn't even feel like I belonged to the Universe anymore, and with all the books that keep coming out, (the ones I absolutely cannot ever hope to keep track of), I feel like more of an outsider!!  Anyone else have this problem?  I only hope that the new Apes film will remember us as well as pulling new people into it...that's the best!

                                                          *Lynne*

I feel the same way about the new star wars myself.

The reason why it's hard for me to enjoy the prequals is because these are liked to the originals, and it all seems too new and badly put together.

Apes on the other hand for me anyway is a totaly new story with no link what so ever to the original. So it's like a breath of fresh air without the fear of the original being damaged in any way.

 

Just my way of looking at it. Nothing to lose, everything to gain.

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

 

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Can someone post the Memphis con info again?

http://zeus.ia.net/%7Emarydee/memphis/index.htm

 

I hope it's right, I hate typing long addresses because I always screwup. :o)

 

Best,

 

Alex

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In a message dated 2/9/01 4:42:12 PM Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< You will find a lot of the story content has been missed/modified in
comparison to the original movies. The audience is children and that is why
(and probably explains the absence of the Conquest version- too violent). >>

Are there any voice credits?

In a message dated 2/9/01 6:39:50 PM Central Standard Time,
lawford42@... writes:

<< OK, what is this famous 'Zirographer' photo you speak of and how can I
see it? Ditto the Betrayed poster. >>

The picture was a candid behind the scenes photo of Zira playing
cinematographer in the coliseum. The poster was a huge French version for an
old 40's noir film with Robert Mitchum called Betrayed. (aka When Strangers
Marry) When I bid on an item I usually save the Pic on disk. I'll see if I
can find them and post them.

I am a big Star Wars fan and have collected Star Wars stuff all my life. I go
to Star Wars conventions and get autographs of the actors about 4 or more
times a year. I just recently got into Apes after getting the DVD set and
falling in love! I was appalled by Episode 1 and can't stand any of the Star
Wars books. Star Wars in my opinion has gone downhill since the invention of
the Ewoks. It better get better in Episode 2 (which I have a great deal of
hope for) or I'm selling all my stuff and calling it quits. Maybe I can trade
it for Apes stuff.

Loc

<<Are there any voice credits?


No, no voice credits in the books.

Loc

I didn't know anything about this show but now I'm going to try and go. I
would love to meet Kim Hunter! She is my favorite ape and a wonderful
autograph signer.

Loc

Michael Wrote:

You will find a lot of the story content has been missed/modified in
comparison to the original movies. The audience is children and that is why
(and probably explains the absence of the Conquest version- too violent).

Lord T Wrote:

Are there any voice credits?

RESPONSE:

No voice credits but there is a credit for STORY ADAPTATION, ART AND DESIGN
BY ARVID KNUDSEN AND ASSOCIATES. Arvid, if you are listening please stand
up!!

Michael

Hello Gang

I am married with 2 wonderful girls (Natasha and Melissa). We live in the
Capital City of Australia, Canberra.

I picked up a Curtis Planet of the Apes Magazine as a child (number 8) and I
was hooked after that. I would get very excited on finding new books and
toys. I also developed an interest in monkeys and apes in general
(particularly the Great Apes) and often enquired as to how I could get me a
pet chimp (which was possible in the US at the time but damned near
impossible in Australia). I am getting my revenge on my mum now - she threw
my ape collection all away when my enthusiasm momentarily lapsed and I
discovered girls.

I recall I could only ever get the first release of Megos and I used to
dream about growing up and finding the other figures and the playsets. I
visited the US in 1983 and when I arrived in LA I picked up the TV guide and
saw there was a Planet of the Apes movie being screened that I had never
seen! How could this be? It turned out to be one of those re-packaged "2
TV shows back to back" but I tried damned hard to watch it. Jet lag won
that battle and I was so upset I missed half the show that I would compare
it to losing a lost one (well maybe a pet). At the time I was a passionate
collector of Pink Floyd and David Bowie.

My interest was rekindled in 1992 when I went into a local record (remember
them) store and saw the entire set of Apes movies was available on video FOR
THE FIRST TIME EVER IN AUSTRALIA. I took the day off work and watched them
all back to back, writing down on a note pad any inconsistencies in the
plots and attempting to explain them all with a script for a sixth movie
which explained EVERYTHING (thinking at the time that at least it may one
day be published as a story in a comic book - this was around the time of
the rebirth of Apes in Adventure Comics). By the way, the release of this
series was thanks to the immortal Mr Ken Taylor.....we salute you.

I then discovered the Internet and bought a lot of the dear old toys I had
previously owned at extraordinarily high prices. I took on the challenge to
start collecting Apes because I remembered as a child there was NOTHING
around - so how hard could it be? A few Megos and a few other toys -
EASY!!! Then I found eBay where I got in touch with a huge collector who
was selling his entire collection. I could not believe what was out there
and I am still discovering new, previously unknown toys all the time! Ken
Taylor and I love to compare notes on collectibles. His collection is
awesome - he needs a new house to set up as a museum. I would love to one
day set up a Planet of the Apes tribute hall (say at Fox Studios Australia?)
with full size Apemania Mannequins and accessories and a heap of
collectibles (dream on). I agree toys are to be played with, but there's
something wonderful about having them in hand in their original
wrapper...preserved for the ages (in suspended animation).

The release of the new movie marks a whole new era. I look at it as a
springboard. If it is a smash hit, Fox will release the Cartoon series and
I bet they may even be convinced to make a concluding TV Movie to wrap up
the TV Show (again maybe this could just be a comic series - hell, I want
closure too!!). Think of the possibilities (I am..). That's why I am being
so positive and excited about the whole thing.

Michael

In a message dated 2/9/01 11:51:17 PM Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< No voice credits >>

So is it like a radio show or a dramatic reading?
Or is it taken directly from the film?

In a message dated 2/9/01 10:33:38 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< I hope it's right, I hate typing long addresses because I always screwup.
:o) >>

Just a tip Alex...Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V cut and paste It's a real time saver! You
don't even have to use the mouse . . . Well, except to highlight the address,
but that's it.

It's not directly from the film I don't think. It's like a comic book version
of the film. It's much shorter. I don't have a record player to play them so
I'm not for sure, but as I recall these power records books being they are
different voices and it is just a reading of the book. When I see my Mom next
I'll use her record player and copy them to tape and find out more of what
they will be like but it will be a while before I see her. I saw that some of
them are on eBay pretty cheap if you are interested in them. I found them
under "planet of the apes record." Take a look.

Loc

In a message dated 2/9/01 10:54:45 PM Central Standard Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

<< Star Wars in my opinion has gone downhill since the invention of the
Ewoks. >>

Amen to that brother! The Ewok-Factor, as I call it, is the bane of any
Sci-fi franchise. Though the Ape series suffered from budget cuts as well,
when the producers of any Sci-fi series realize it has a high percentage of
young audience and decides to play to that, in an effort to sell more toys,
it invariably alienates it's older audience and eventually the younger
audience as it gets older. They don't seem to realize that it's the complex
story and adult scenes that made it cool in the first place for young and old
alike. And in their fit of greed end up shooting themselves in the foot.
After all, kid ever snuck in to see The Muppets in Outer Space!
I hope they give the new move an R-rating. Let Dirk Diggler do every female
on the planet, human or ape!

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It's not directly from the film I don't think. It's like a comic book version
of the film. It's much shorter. I don't have a record player to play them so
I'm not for sure, but as I recall these power records books being they are
different voices and it is just a reading of the book. When I see my Mom next
I'll use her record player and copy them to tape and find out more of what
they will be like but it will be a while before I see her. I saw that some of
them are on eBay pretty cheap if you are interested in them. I found them
under "planet of the apes record." Take a look.

Loc

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In a message dated 2/10/01 12:21:03 AM Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< I am getting my revenge on my mum now - she threw
my ape collection all away when my enthusiasm momentarily lapsed and I
discovered girls. >>

Didn't they all!
I remember a whole bunch of B&W Beatles bubblegum card I got at a garage sale
when I was about 4 years old. How much would they be worth now? Warn
mothers everywhere! They are throwing away fortunes everyday!

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It's a good one. And I can't help sharing with other Ape fans. Enjoy!

Like a dramatic reading - in no way taken from the movie! Even has a "ding"
to turn the page on the ones that come with a book (no "ding" on the LP
record!!!!)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 17:40
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA books and records!

In a message dated 2/9/01 11:51:17 PM Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< No voice credits >>

So is it like a radio show or a dramatic reading?
Or is it taken directly from the film?

By the way, the stories on the TV Series LP are:

Mountain of the Delphi;
Battle of Two Worlds;
Dawn of the Tree People; &
Volcano.

All original stories.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 17:40
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA books and records!

In a message dated 2/9/01 11:51:17 PM Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< No voice credits >>

So is it like a radio show or a dramatic reading?
Or is it taken directly from the film?

And now days there are probably more Mint On Card Star Wars Episode One
action figures than opened ones and they'll be worth nothing - I should
alert my mother to these......

I guess the pure collector can really thank moms like ours for making 'em
scarce!!!!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 19:53
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] BIO - Michael Whiity from Down Under

In a message dated 2/10/01 12:21:03 AM Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< I am getting my revenge on my mum now - she threw
my ape collection all away when my enthusiasm momentarily lapsed and I
discovered girls. >>

Didn't they all!
I remember a whole bunch of B&W Beatles bubblegum card I got at a garage
sale
when I was about 4 years old. How much would they be worth now? Warn
mothers everywhere! They are throwing away fortunes everyday!

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Just a tip Alex...Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V  cut and paste  It's a real time saver! You
don't even have to use the mouse . . . Well, except to highlight the address,
but that's it

 

Cool, thanks.

 

Alex

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Hey everbody, I noticed in todays paper that it's Jerry Goldsmith's 72nd
birthday! One of the greatest American film composers of all time. Can't even
begin to list his credits. Let's give the guy a big blow from the ram's
horn!!!! Thanks for everything Jerry! Go Apes!!!! John

Somebody's a bit optimistic! Observe:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=556144261

Alan

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

>I had these as a kid - they were available in most record stores. I
>recently upgraded and bought a sealed set. They are not a particularly

rare

>item, but are official Planet of the Apes merchandise and therefore must be
>had! You are right, a Conquest version was never made. A sealed set is a
>lot harder to find but not much fun to examine (I still have the original
>ones though thank goodness).

Yep, no Conquest, and for some reason the first two seem to be a lot scarcer
than than Escape and Battle (I've only got these two). To be totally honest,
Escape and Battle are about as rare as old socks. These are exceptionally
common even in shrinkwrapped condition - the first thing I did when I bought
them was tear the damn things open and listen to them! You should certainly
be able to pick these ones up for no more than $15/£10.

The stories were certainly altered for the kids market - in Battle, not only
does Cornelius not die, he doesn't even appear in the story to start with!

I get really annoyed when I look for these on e-bay, because you will ALWAYS
see them as "Planet of the Apes book & record" or something like that, but
it's only once you click on the link that you see they're either Escape or
Battle.

There were lots of these sorts of things made - Star Trek, Space:1999, etc.
It was quite common for comics to be done like this too, since then they
wouldn't even have to bother with all-new art, just slightly adapt some
existing piece.

Alan

Alexander Ruiz <prophecysite@...> wrote:

>She's the cutest looking ape I've ever seen.
>I guess it would make it more believable for those
>to see Wahlberg falling in love with an ape. If it
>ever does get that far.

A snippet from Helena in this month's Empire mag:

"I'm a kind of semi, not-quite-conventional love interest for Mark. How far
does that go? Well, we don't 'do it' if that's what you mean..."

Alan

Haristas@... <Haristas@...>

>Did anyone else happen to notice that the Icarus spaceship makes a guest
>appearance in the film "The Illustrated Man" (1969)? Well, it does.

I'll need to check that out, I don't recall noticing it before, but I've got
the film on video in my cupboard somewhere (buried beneath PotA merchandise
probably).

The film also featured a great score by the man himself, Mr Goldsmith.

Alan

John wrote: <JSe3689836@...>

> Hey everbody, I noticed in todays paper that it's Jerry Goldsmith's

72nd

>birthday! One of the greatest American film composers of all time. Can't

even

>begin to list his credits. Let's give the guy a big blow from the ram's
>horn!!!! Thanks for everything Jerry! Go Apes!!!! John

Note to the fans in the south of England: Jerry Goldsmith is playing a
concert at the Royal Albert Hall in London on June 28th. I don't know if
he'll play Apes music or not, but I had the joy of seeing him celebrating
his 70th birthday with a few concerts in Scotland and he played a few cues
from his original Apes score. Fantastic stuff.

I've not looked at the page, but www.lso.co.uk apparently has details
regarding tickets, etc.

Alan

> <<Are there any voice credits?


> No, no voice credits in the books.

There were a few different series of the Power Book & Record sets. One
for POTA, one for superheroes (Spider-Man, the Hulk, Captain America, and
the Fantastic Four), and one for Marvel Comics monsters (Frankenstein,
Tomb of Dracula, Man-Thing, and I think Man-Wolf). There were no voice
credits in any of them, but I do believe they were all produced out of
the same studio because the same voices appeared on the different albums.
As someone already mentioned, there were also 12" albums that contained
the stories but not the booklets (and the turn the page "ping" and "now
please turn the record over to the other side" were removed). There were
also several for the DC superheroes, some book and records, some just 7"
records with no booklet, and of course there were the POTA stories based
on the TV series that were released in 7" and 12" versions. Come to think
of it, I have quite a few of these in my collection.

OK, who wants to start a Power Records website? :-)


Chris L.
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To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 1:13 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] POTA books and records!

> <<Are there any voice credits?
 
 
> No, no voice credits in the books.


There were a few different series of the Power Book & Record sets. One
for POTA, one for superheroes (Spider-Man, the Hulk, Captain America, and
the Fantastic Four), and one for Marvel Comics monsters (Frankenstein,
Tomb of Dracula, Man-Thing, and I think Man-Wolf). There were no voice
credits in any of them, but I do believe they were all produced out of
the same studio because the same voices appeared on the different albums.
As someone already mentioned, there were also 12" albums that contained
the stories but not the booklets (and the turn the page "ping" and "now
please turn the record over to the other side" were removed). There were
also several for the DC superheroes, some book and records, some just 7"
records with no booklet, and of course there were the POTA stories based
on the TV series that were released in 7" and 12" versions. Come to think
of it, I have quite a few of these in my collection.

OK, who wants to start a Power Records website?   :-)


Chris L.
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Happy Birthday Jerry!!!! How I wish you were scoring the new APES movie.
It really won't be the same without music by you.

--Rory

Yes, I forgot that... "The Illustrated Man" has a great Jerry Goldsmith score
(Is there anything but a great Goldsmith score?). I collect Goldsmith on
CD. Anyone else out there do the same? By the way, in "The Illustrated
Man" the Icarus ship is seen in the episode where the astronauts are
marooned on a planet where it never stops raining. Best part of the movie I
think. -- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: Terry Hoknes

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 8:56 AM

Subject: Re: video question

one more question

i have some vhs tapes from england in PAL format,

do you know what i need to play them in my machine?

can I buy a PAL machine and bring it through the mail and have it automatically work at my end  OR do I still need plug in converters   220 to 110 etc.

 

 

I beleive Dave Ballard has a VHS machine that plays both formats. You should ask him where he got it. Hopefuly somewhere on the Web so that it can be ordered. Instead of two VCR's you have one that does it all.

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International Television Standards

Country	Format	Country	Format	Country	Format
Albania	SECAM	Algeria	PAL	Andorra	PAL
Argentina	PAL	Australia	PAL	Austria	PAL
Bahamas	NTSC	Barbados	NTSC	Belgium	PAL
Bermuda	NTSC	Brazil	PAL	Bulgaria	SECAM
Canada	NTSC	Canary Islands	PAL	Chile	NTSC
China	PAL	Colombia	SECAM	Congo	SECAM
Costa Rica	NTSC	Czechoslovakia	SECAM	Denmark	PAL
Egypt	SECAM	El Salvador	NTSC	Finland	PAL
Former Yugoslavia	PAL	Former USSR	SECAM/PAL	France	SECAM
Germany	PAL	Greece	PAL	Greenland	NTSC
Guatemala	NTSC	Hong Kong	PAL	Iceland	PAL
India	PAL	Indonesia	PAL	Iran	SECAM
Ireland	PAL	Israel	PAL	Italy	PAL
Japan	NTSC	Kenya	PAL	Korea,South	NTSC
Luxembourg	PAL/SECAM	Malaysia	PAL	Malta	PAL
Mexico	NTSC	Morocco	SECAM	Netherlands	PAL
New Zealand	PAL	Norway	PAL	Peru	NTSC
Poland	SECAM	Portugal	PAL	Puerto Rico	NTSC
Romania	SECAM	Singapore	PAL	South Africa	PAL
Spain	PAL	Sweden	PAL	Switzerland	PAL
Turkey	PAL	USA	NTSC	United Kingdom	PAL
Venezuala	NTSC	Zaire	SECAM	Zimbabwe	PAL

If your country uses SECAM order the PAL version

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In a message dated 2/10/01 2:59:51 PM Central Standard Time,
comicsape@... writes:

<< I want to be able to watch PAL Vhs tapes on my regular vcr here in NTSC
format
Plus I would like to be able to convert NTSC to PAL format to send to
friends overseas! >>

Sounds like you're going to have to invest in one of the pro-machines, which
are mighty pricey. Unless there's been a break through in consumer grade
machines I haven't heard about. Anyone know of any consumer grade
convertibles out?

I tried it and nothing happened. Did I miss something?


Chris L.


On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 07:18:03 +1100 "Michael Whitty"
<whitty@...> writes:

> Does anyone want to have a "Quicktime" version of the trailer sent
> to them
> before it is released at the movies?
>
> I thought so.
>
> Go to:
>
> http://www.foxmovies.com.au/home.asp
>
> Then select "Coming Soon" and a window will appear......I'll let you
> see what happens.
>
> Thanks to Ken Taylor for the heads up!
>
> Michael

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On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:27:26 -0000 "Alan Maxwell"
<alan@...> writes:

> The stories were certainly altered for the kids market - in Battle, not

only

> does Cornelius not die, he doesn't even appear in the story to start

with!

Yeah, but to my seven year old mind the drawing of the unmasked mutants
was downright GRUESOME! I couldn't even look at that page for the longest
time. Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

Also, the story for the Man-Thing (from Marvel Comics) book & record set
was about a clown who committed suicide (shotgun in the mouth) in the
swamp and the people who were looking for him. At the end, I seem to
recall his ghost came back as was telling the group of people how it was
OK to laugh.

Can't exactly see how they let that one get out, especially since they
were directed at kids.


Chris L.

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Here in Australia you can buy dual system VCRs (and TVs ) that play both NTSC
and PAL. I have a friend who lives in L.A who has an American VCR that does the
same. So you probably just have to ask around. It's probably not a feature that
they would promote.
Why would Americans need to watch "foreign" videos when (almost) everything is
released there? For us in Australia, many, many titles don't see the light of
day on VHS, so it's much more of a selling point to buy a VCR knowing you can at
least import.
It's a different deal with DVD players though. Each country has a different
"zone" or encoding so that you can't play foreign DVDs on a locally purchased
DVD player. But like everything, there's a way around it and you can pay a
"professional" (preferably cash) to spend two minutes de-zoning it and enabling
you to play any DVD from any country.
I HAD to do this as the APES DVD box set isn't scheduled for release here until
the end of the year ( and yes, it'll have the same version of Battle everyone
else -except for maybe Japan- got).
Best,
KEN

Speaking of music - who is doing the music for the new movie?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: JSe3689836@... [JSe3689836@...]
Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 4:45
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Happy B-Day Jerry Goldsmith

Hey everbody, I noticed in todays paper that it's Jerry Goldsmith's
72nd
birthday! One of the greatest American film composers of all time. Can't
even
begin to list his credits. Let's give the guy a big blow from the ram's
horn!!!! Thanks for everything Jerry! Go Apes!!!! John

Alan,

What else do you have in your collection?

Any UK exclusive stuff?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell [alan@...]
Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 5:27
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA books and records!

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

>I had these as a kid - they were available in most record stores. I
>recently upgraded and bought a sealed set. They are not a particularly

rare

>item, but are official Planet of the Apes merchandise and therefore must be
>had! You are right, a Conquest version was never made. A sealed set is a
>lot harder to find but not much fun to examine (I still have the original
>ones though thank goodness).

Yep, no Conquest, and for some reason the first two seem to be a lot scarcer
than than Escape and Battle (I've only got these two). To be totally honest,
Escape and Battle are about as rare as old socks. These are exceptionally
common even in shrinkwrapped condition - the first thing I did when I bought
them was tear the damn things open and listen to them! You should certainly
be able to pick these ones up for no more than $15/£10.

The stories were certainly altered for the kids market - in Battle, not only
does Cornelius not die, he doesn't even appear in the story to start with!

I get really annoyed when I look for these on e-bay, because you will ALWAYS
see them as "Planet of the Apes book & record" or something like that, but
it's only once you click on the link that you see they're either Escape or
Battle.

There were lots of these sorts of things made - Star Trek, Space:1999, etc.
It was quite common for comics to be done like this too, since then they
wouldn't even have to bother with all-new art, just slightly adapt some
existing piece.

Alan

Chris,

What else do you have in your collection?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: lawford42@... [lawford42@...]
Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 6:14
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] POTA books and records!

> <<Are there any voice credits?


> No, no voice credits in the books.

There were a few different series of the Power Book & Record sets. One
for POTA, one for superheroes (Spider-Man, the Hulk, Captain America, and
the Fantastic Four), and one for Marvel Comics monsters (Frankenstein,
Tomb of Dracula, Man-Thing, and I think Man-Wolf). There were no voice
credits in any of them, but I do believe they were all produced out of
the same studio because the same voices appeared on the different albums.
As someone already mentioned, there were also 12" albums that contained
the stories but not the booklets (and the turn the page "ping" and "now
please turn the record over to the other side" were removed). There were
also several for the DC superheroes, some book and records, some just 7"
records with no booklet, and of course there were the POTA stories based
on the TV series that were released in 7" and 12" versions. Come to think
of it, I have quite a few of these in my collection.

OK, who wants to start a Power Records website? :-)


Chris L.
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International Television Standards

Country	Format	Country	Format	Country	Format
Albania	SECAM	Algeria	PAL	Andorra	PAL
Argentina	PAL	Australia	PAL	Austria	PAL
Bahamas	NTSC	Barbados	NTSC	Belgium	PAL
Bermuda	NTSC	Brazil	PAL	Bulgaria	SECAM
Canada	NTSC	Canary Islands	PAL	Chile	NTSC
China	PAL	Colombia	SECAM	Congo	SECAM
Costa Rica	NTSC	Czechoslovakia	SECAM	Denmark	PAL
Egypt	SECAM	El Salvador	NTSC	Finland	PAL
Former Yugoslavia	PAL	Former USSR	SECAM/PAL	France	SECAM
Germany	PAL	Greece	PAL	Greenland	NTSC
Guatemala	NTSC	Hong Kong	PAL	Iceland	PAL
India	PAL	Indonesia	PAL	Iran	SECAM
Ireland	PAL	Israel	PAL	Italy	PAL
Japan	NTSC	Kenya	PAL	Korea,South	NTSC
Luxembourg	PAL/SECAM	Malaysia	PAL	Malta	PAL
Mexico	NTSC	Morocco	SECAM	Netherlands	PAL
New Zealand	PAL	Norway	PAL	Peru	NTSC
Poland	SECAM	Portugal	PAL	Puerto Rico	NTSC
Romania	SECAM	Singapore	PAL	South Africa	PAL
Spain	PAL	Sweden	PAL	Switzerland	PAL
Turkey	PAL	USA	NTSC	United Kingdom	PAL
Venezuala	NTSC	Zaire	SECAM	Zimbabwe	PAL

If your country uses SECAM order the PAL version

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wish it was Goldsmith, though I doubt he'd want to repeat what he did before.
  -- Rory (Who's had the POTA Goldsmith LP since Oct. '68!  33 years of
listening to that score.  The complete score on CD is great.  Get it if you
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to the new movie.  Check out item number 1409333596 on eBay.     For me, I'd
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i think there is a power records tribute website but not sure where

 

 

What I would love to do is to put those power records on the site as a POTA comic-online!

I have all four book and records but like Loc I need to convert them to audio CD.

So Loc if you ever do get the chance to do it, please send me a copy of it.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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>Yes, I forgot that... "The Illustrated Man" has a great Jerry Goldsmith

score

>(Is there anything but a great Goldsmith score?). I collect Goldsmith on
>CD. Anyone else out there do the same?

Yeah... I wouldn't say I collect his work religiously, but looking at my CD
rack, my Goldsmith collection numbers 12 CDs at the moment (three of which
are Ape-related though)! Oh, and an old LP of Logan's Run too. Hell, I'm
quite tempted to pop down to London and see him in concert again! What's 350
miles to see a master at work, eh?

Alan

Ken & Heather Taylor <kentaylor@...> wrote:

>Here in Australia you can buy dual system VCRs (and TVs ) that play both

NTSC

>and PAL. I have a friend who lives in L.A who has an American VCR that

does the

>same. So you probably just have to ask around. It's probably not a feature

that

>they would promote.

Yeah, I've noticed that NTSC playback is quite a common feature on VCRs in
the UK now. My parents bought a new machine just recently with this feature,
so I suppose in theory you can probably tape NTSC->PAL on it, but not vice
versa. I'm just happy because I'll be able to pick up a copy of the pile of
cack that is "Time of the Apes" now. Any other NTSC Ape goodies to look out
for? Anyone got Battle with the extras?

Alan

Attachments :

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

>What else do you have in your collection?
>
>Any UK exclusive stuff?

Not much... let me think... a few issues of the Marvel UK comic... two of
the three annuals... the boardgame (which I assume was probably just
licensed from the US anyway)... one jigsaw puzzle (the quite common one
depicting Urko & Zaius in "The Legacy")... a few UK magazines with Ape
articles in them (hmmm, stretching it a bit now)... Not a great deal at all,
now I think about it.

Oh and the widescreen video release of the original film, from 1993 - far
better packaging than the tapes in the box set - aside from what you can see
from the outside, there's also the fact that you open the box and it has
some behind the scenes information too. (see the wee attached pictures)

Alan

Attachments :

I also have a paperback edition of Boulle's book (from 1991) - could I be
the only person in Ape fandom who actually DOESN'T own a copy of the book
with the Urko photocover? (see attached pic for the one I've got)

Alan

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picture attached of script cover

ok this guy has the script for $50

 

anybody wanna go in on it together

or even better yet does anyone have ocr scanning capabilities where they could scan each page and turn it into text??

 

 

Boy, FOX is going to open a CAN of WOP ASS on the that guy!

And with movie scetches!! Holy Moly!

You know that auction is not going to last long.

He's going to need the winnings to get himself out of jail!

 

hehehe!!

 

Best,

 

Alex 

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Sorry, can't help.

 

Alex, how 'bout you?

 

Must say I really don't want to know though.....I would rather see the film first!

 

Michael

 

Same here, I would rather see the movie first.

And exposing the script on the internet before the release would be a crying shame. I only hope it never gets that far.

Athough it would be really nice to have that 84 page storyboard booklet he has as a personal collectable. (for what true fan wouldn't want something like that for keep sake)

 

Best,

 

Alex 

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It should have come up with a request for your e-mail address so they can
send you a "Quicktime" version of the trailer before it is released in
cinemas.

Anyone else having troubles?

Also, can anyone help with links etc for fans to download "Quicktime"?

If you guys cannot get this window to appear, shall we vote on whether I
should send it to the group when I get it (we could be talking a 45 minute
download...).

Let me know.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: lawford42@... [lawford42@...]
Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 7:47
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Trailer

I tried it and nothing happened. Did I miss something?


Chris L.


On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 07:18:03 +1100 "Michael Whitty"
<whitty@...> writes:

> Does anyone want to have a "Quicktime" version of the trailer sent
> to them
> before it is released at the movies?
>
> I thought so.
>
> Go to:
>
> http://www.foxmovies.com.au/home.asp
>
> Then select "Coming Soon" and a window will appear......I'll let you
> see what happens.
>
> Thanks to Ken Taylor for the heads up!
>
> Michael

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It should have come up with a request for your e-mail address so they can
send you a "Quicktime" version of the trailer before it is released in
cinemas.

Anyone else having troubles?

Also, can anyone help with links etc for fans to download "Quicktime"?

If you guys cannot get this window to appear, shall we vote on whether I
should send it to the group when I get it (we could be talking a 45 minute
download...).

Let me know.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: lawford42@... [lawford42@...]
Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 7:47
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Trailer

I tried it and nothing happened. Did I miss something?


Chris L.


On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 07:18:03 +1100 "Michael Whitty"
<whitty@...> writes:

> Does anyone want to have a "Quicktime" version of the trailer sent
> to them
> before it is released at the movies?
>
> I thought so.
>
> Go to:
>
> http://www.foxmovies.com.au/home.asp
>
> Then select "Coming Soon" and a window will appear......I'll let you
> see what happens.
>
> Thanks to Ken Taylor for the heads up!
>
> Michael

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No problem! I'm going to look into getting a record player and finding out
how to hook it up to the computer so I can burn them.

Loc

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Also, can anyone help with links etc for fans to download "Quicktime"?

If you guys cannot get this window to appear, shall we vote on whether I
should send it to the group when I get it (we could be talking a 45 minute
download...).

Let me know.

Michael

 

Well, once released I'll have the trailer on my site.

I can compress a QuickTime trailer to a much smaller Real Player or Mpeg Format. All for the advertisement of the film and for it's fans!

I'll keep you all posted on that.

 

Best,

 

Alex 

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how big is the trailer?   is it over 2mb?

 

how about everyone send their email and a YES to this post saying that they want you to email it to them directly and then you could just send it to some private peoples addresses all at once

 

 

Well, that could be a problem.

If you look at the trialers on darkhorizons.com those trailer run between 3 to 15 megs. So if it's okay with the group I wouldn't mind. I have fast access, but not everyone does.

 

So I'll go with whatever the group says.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 10:09 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Trailer

how big is the trailer?   is it over 2mb?

 

how about everyone send their email and a YES to this post saying that they want you to email it to them directly and then you could just send it to some private peoples addresses all at once

 

 

Well, that could be a problem.

If you look at the trialers on darkhorizons.com those trailer run between 3 to 15 megs. So if it's okay with the group I wouldn't mind. I have fast access, but not everyone does.

 

So I'll go with whatever the group says.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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I THINK WE BETTER NOT SEND IT TO THE GROUP ITSELF CAUSE MOST EMAIL ADDRESSES CANNOT HOLD FILES OVER 1MB !

 

Terry, did you ask that guy on e-bay for a scan of the front page of the script?

 

Alex

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I realise that art is subjective, but I think this is pushing it a bit..


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=558683979

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hey Ken, Heston never looked better ??   hahahahahahah

I realise that art is subjective, but I think this is pushing it a bit..
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=558683979

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I realise that art is subjective, but I think this is pushing it a bit..


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=558683979

hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

That's it man, I'M SELLING MY UNDERWEAR ON E-BAY!!

Hell they'll buy anything!

 

Now I've seen everthing!

 

Oh man...

 

Alex

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prophecysite@... writes:

hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
That's it man, I'M SELLING MY UNDERWEAR ON E-BAY!!
Hell they'll buy anything

I bet if you autograph it, you'll get double the price.


PMilam

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If you could identify Heston, you have a greater appreciation than I.

Terry Hoknes wrote:

 

hey Ken, Heston never looked better ??   hahahahahahah

I realise that art is subjective, but I think this is pushing it a bit..
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=558683979

 

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he sent me the front cover picture.

 

That's cool.

It would have been cooler if you would have asked him to show you a sneak peek at that storyboard booklet.

 

AND SPOIL THE MOVIE!

WHAT AM I SAYING!!!

 

THINK BASEBALL!! THINK BASEBALL!!

 

Alex

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