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----- Original Message -----

From: Ken & Heather Taylor

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 11:56 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] ART SHALL NEVER KILL ART

Terry,
If you could identify Heston, you have a greater appreciation than I.

Terry Hoknes wrote:

 

hey Ken, Heston never looked better ??   hahahahahahah

I realise that art is subjective, but I think this is pushing it a bit..
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=558683979

 

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> ". Any other NTSC Ape goodies to look out
> for? Anyone got Battle with the extras?"
>
> Alan

Hey Alan,Check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1409174704

It's got some pretty cool stuff on it. Quality could vary. I've got a copy of a
copy ( most probably of a copy. Wonder if Haslein has a theory on that one?) and
it's only just watchable. So if you go after it, ask questions first.
I also have an NTSC copy of the extended version of BATTLE, transferred from the
Japanese laser disc. Unfortunately, I don't have access to get it copied on NTSC
and to convert it to PAL would be pretty poor quality. The copy of the above
mentioned tape I have also includes just the extended bits from Battle. Again,
poor quality.
Best,
KEN

>
>

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.html Hey, no need to insult 8 year olds!

Terry Hoknes wrote:

  instead of callin it planet of the apes i think maybe         "creative art of a 8 year old" !!

 

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> ". Any other NTSC Ape goodies to look out
> for? Anyone got Battle with the extras?"
>
> Alan

Hey Alan,Check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1409174704

It's got some pretty cool stuff on it. Quality could vary. I've got a copy of a
copy ( most probably of a copy. Wonder if Haslein has a theory on that one?) and
it's only just watchable. So if you go after it, ask questions first.
I also have an NTSC copy of the extended version of BATTLE, transferred from the
Japanese laser disc. Unfortunately, I don't have access to get it copied on NTSC
and to convert it to PAL would be pretty poor quality. The copy of the above
mentioned tape I have also includes just the extended bits from Battle. Again,
poor quality.
Best,

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Hey Alan,Check this out:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1409174704

It's got some pretty cool stuff on it. Quality could vary. I've got a copy of a
copy ( most probably of a copy. Wonder if Haslein has a theory on that one?) and
it's only just watchable. So if you go after it, ask questions first.
I also have an NTSC copy of the extended version of BATTLE, transferred from the
Japanese laser disc. Unfortunately, I don't have access to get it copied on NTSC
and to convert it to PAL would be pretty poor quality. The copy of the above
mentioned tape I have also includes just the extended bits from Battle. Again,
poor quality.
Best,
KEN

 

Yeah, that is a good tape as far as footage but as far as the quality your right it is best to ask first. I have all of that in very poor quality. So bad in fact that if I were to make a copy of it. It wouldn't be a copy, just a great big blur.

 

Now that's sad.

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

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I collect Goldsmith on CD, anyone else out there do the same?

Ohhhh yeah! Here be the list...

First Knight/The Mummy/Lionheart Vol 1/Lionheart Vol 2/100
Rifles/Powder/Hour of the Gun/Forever young/The Omen/Mulan/Star Trek
TMP/Legend/Rio Conchos/Rambo/The Shadow/Total recall/Alien/
Star Trek 5/The 13th Warrior/Take a hard ride/Planet/ escape/Bandolero

In a message dated 2/10/01 5:17:02 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@...
writes:

<< For me, I'd rather wait for the movie. >>

I'm with you. I've already read the old new scripts. I can always by it
cheaper after the movie comes out, if it's worth it.

Does anyone have a link to the site where you can download a "Quicktime"
player?

Michael

I would imagine that a high profile movie such as this will see an
"official" release of the script for sale. Do any of you guys
have/remember the "T2" script with all those hundreds of small
scene-by-scene pix?

I wonder if there will be a novelization?

Wouldn't it be great if they open the movie with the message
"Dedicated to Arthur and Roddy" More likely it'll be dedicated to
Burton's Chi-wa-wa though (yeah I know that's spelt wrong)

I see on the Fox site August 9th is now the official release (cue
Alex slapping his forehead!) Last I read the UK won't see it till
Sept, so c'mon guys... no letting the "Shock ending" out of the bag.

Ken

I think the dude downloaded the wrong link.

I went to his site and found a picture entitled ape wars:

http://www.timmurley.com/image.asp?PID=198&GID=22

and another entitled Planet of the Apes (which I believe is what the guy is
actually selling).

http://www.timmurley.com/image.asp?PID=227&GID=25

Some of the images are actually recognisable, while still kinda crap.

Then go to:

http://www.timmurley.com/gallery.asp?GID=23

You will find some quite acceptable pics of "Nightmare before Xmas" and then
scroll down a bit for "Behold the Nightmare" as being auctioned on eBay -
probably should have something to do with "Nightmare before Xmas" but still
very unrecognisable.

Well that was a lot of energy for nothing.............

He should be auctioning the shit he's taking....noe THAT I would pay good
money for!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken & Heather Taylor [kentaylor@...]
Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 15:34
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] ART SHALL NEVER KILL ART

I realise that art is subjective, but I think this is pushing it a bit..


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=558683979

In a message dated 2/10/01 9:43:02 PM Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< It should have come up with a request for your e-mail address so they can
send you a "Quicktime" version of the trailer before it is released in
cinemas. >>

Anyone know when they'll e-mail this?
It should be this week, if they're still shooting for President's Day.

I think that's the Aussie release date - now I'm saving up to come see the
opening in the US then off to Memphis. I'll be driving in a 65 Pontiac
Grand Prix (with some rust damage from driving thousands of miles through
the ocean) and sleeping on the back seat in my official Planet of the Apes
bean bag. I may knock on you door so stock up the fridge. You coming Ken?
I know you have a sleeping bag too......

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Ballard [dballard@...]
Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 22:53
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs

I would imagine that a high profile movie such as this will see an
"official" release of the script for sale. Do any of you guys
have/remember the "T2" script with all those hundreds of small
scene-by-scene pix?

I wonder if there will be a novelization?

Wouldn't it be great if they open the movie with the message
"Dedicated to Arthur and Roddy" More likely it'll be dedicated to
Burton's Chi-wa-wa though (yeah I know that's spelt wrong)

I see on the Fox site August 9th is now the official release (cue
Alex slapping his forehead!) Last I read the UK won't see it till
Sept, so c'mon guys... no letting the "Shock ending" out of the bag.

If this guy is a pro, so is my nephew!
His paiting ended up on a cd cover.
Of course it was his Dad's band, but hey.

.html WOW!  I know ape-fans are harsh, but you guys are BRUTAL!!!  Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe this Tim Murley artist is "handicapped"?  Alot of mentally disabled people have artistic ability.  Although the subjects are barely recognizable, this guy's work does show an understanding of composition and color.  Maybe he has downs syndrome or something, but his work does display a fundamental comprehension of art theory, albeit a bit too abstract for my tastes.

So the poor guy posted a piece on eBay to jump on the band-wagon.  Big deal.  We've all seen worse.  I just think you folks are being a bit too hard on the guy.   Okay, so he's just experimenting with this "child art" theme during this phase of his artistic growth.   Maybe next time he'll try photo-realism.  At least he's DOING something with his skills!  And he's included POTA's as a theme!  For that we should all be grateful that he's helping to keep the Apes alive.

There, I've said my piece.

Brian

PS:  Of course I could be wrong.  These painting could be the work of that elephant at the Phoenix Zoo!

Michael Whitty wrote:

Ken

I think the dude downloaded the wrong link.

I went to his site and found a picture entitled ape wars:

http://www.timmurley.com/image.asp?PID=198&GID=22

and another entitled Planet of the Apes (which I believe is what the guy is
actually selling).

http://www.timmurley.com/image.asp?PID=227&GID=25

Some of the images are actually recognisable, while still kinda crap.

Then go to:

http://www.timmurley.com/gallery.asp?GID=23

You will find some quite acceptable pics of "Nightmare before Xmas" and then
scroll down a bit for "Behold the Nightmare" as being auctioned on eBay -
probably should have something to do with "Nightmare before Xmas" but still
very unrecognisable.

Well that was a lot of energy for nothing.............

He should be auctioning the shit he's taking....noe THAT I would pay good
money for!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From:   Ken & Heather Taylor [mailto:kentaylor@...]
Sent:   Sunday, 11 February 2001 15:34
To:     pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject:        [pota] ART SHALL NEVER KILL ART

I realise that art is subjective, but I think this is pushing it a bit..

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Hi Mike,

Quicktime is an APPLE product, so try Apple. Here's one of the many sites
offering downloads:
<http://www.btinternet.com/~chris.heaton/gator/gator.htm#quicktime>

Brian

Michael Whitty wrote:

> Does anyone have a link to the site where you can download a "Quicktime"
> player?
>
> Michael
>

Actually, the direct download link is
<http://download.cnet.com/downloads/1,10150,0-10000-103-0-1-7,00.htmltag=&qt=Quicktime&cn=&ca=10000>

Brian

Michael Whitty wrote:

> Does anyone have a link to the site where you can download a "Quicktime"
> player?
>
> Michael
>

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I collect Goldsmith on CD, anyone else out there do the same?

Ohhhh yeah! Here be the list...

First Knight/The Mummy/Lionheart Vol 1/Lionheart Vol 2/100 Rifles/Powder/Hour of the Gun/Forever young/The Omen/Mulan/Star Trek TMP/Legend/Rio Conchos/Rambo/The Shadow/Total recall/Alien/
Star Trek 5/The 13th Warrior/Take a hard ride/Planet/ escape/Bandolero

 

Wow, that is one impressive list!

 

Alex

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Does anyone have a link to the site where you can download a "Quicktime"
player?

Michael

 

Go to www.darkhorizons.com

Go to his trailers section on the site and there you'll find the links for free quicktime downloads.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Status on the Icarus site:

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I would like to burn the records onto a
couple cd's but I need a record player and something to connect it to my
computer. I'd like to know if I got a good deal or not and how much they are
worth. Thanks!

Loc

 

Hi Loc,

Say Loc if you do burn them on CD send me a copy. I have all four record books as well but I'm having the same problem as you (can't seem to copy them on CD). I want to put it on-line as an on-line comic with storyboard and audios on Real Player. Having all pages thumbnailed so when you click on the page the larger scale page appears and the real audio clip for that page kicks in.

 

Something I had in mind for a long time but I'm having the same record player problem. I have none.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Hi Loc,

Say Loc if you do burn them on CD send me a copy. I have all four record books as well but I'm having the same problem as you (can't seem to copy them on CD). I want to put it on-line as an on-line comic with storyboard and audios on Real Player. Having all pages thumbnailed so when you click on the page the larger scale page appears and the real audio clip for that page kicks in.

 

Something I had in mind for a long time but I'm having the same record player problem. I have none.

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

 

Sorry Loc.

I made this Post 3 days ago and it's finally appeared!

That's way your seeing the request twice.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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.htmlHere's the list of what I have (so far):

Rio Conchos/Stagecoach/The Blue Max/The Sand Pebbles/A Patch of Blue/Our Man
Flint/In Like Flint/The Flim-Flam Man/Hour of the Gun/Planet of the
Apes/Bandolero!/100 Rifles/Patton/Tora! Tora! Tora!/The Mephisto Waltz/The
Other/Escape From the Planet of the Apes/Papillon/Chinatown/The Wind and the
Lion/The Omen/Islands in the Stream/Capricorn One/Outland/Alien/Star
Trek:TMP/Poltergist/Lionheart/Basic Instinct/Rudy/The
Shadow/Congo/Powder/Star Trek: Voyager/First Knight/Air Force One/The
Edge/Star Trek: First Contact/L.A. Confidential/The Mummy/The 13th
Warrior/Hollow Man

and I have a compliation disc of cues from several more films, and I wish I
had much more and will be getting more.

There is good, not so good, and great Goldsmith.   POTA fans should try to
find the CD of "The Mephisto Waltz" (1971).   It's very POTAish, you'll even
hear bits of the "POTA theme" and it's even scarier than "The Omen."

I think Goldsmith's scores from the Sixties up to the late Seventies are the
best.  "The Blue Max," "Hour of the Gun," "Planet of the Apes," "Patton,"
"Papillon," "Chinatown," "The Wind and the Lion,"
and "The Omen" are 'must haves.'   If anyone disagrees, please say so.  I
can't think of a bad Goldsmith score, though he's done scores for MANY bad
movies.  "Poltergist" is also a great score.

A good place to go to start a Goldsmith collection is www.filmscoremonthly.com

They release a score a month on CD and their latest is his score to Franklin
Schaffner's first film "The Stripper."   They are also selling Leonard
Rosenman's score to "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" on CD  AUTOGRAPHED by
the composer.  Check it out.

Rory<.html

Actually, even many of the cheaper DVD players ($150-$250, American),
ARE multi-region players!

Here, in the United States, we still get stuck with the problem of what
a PAL, British region DVD disc will look like on a standard United
States TV (I've heard three different reports: just slight loss of
visual quality, black and white picture, no picture...!).

But, in Australia. if you have PAL-capable television sets, you should
have no problem!

Best, Jim Burns

POTA fans... can you help me? I'm conducting a fact-check and need some
confirmation on the following:

Do the following films have POTA references, spoofs, etc., in them?

Bleeder (1999)
Do the Right Thing (1989)
8 Days a Week (1997)
Free Enterprise (1998)
Hell comes to Frogtown (1987)
Mother (1996)
Spaceship (1981)
20 Dates (1998)

Did Charlton Heston appear on SNL on Mar.28, 1987?

If anyone knows, could you let me know? Much appreciated!!

Adrienne Weiss
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----- Original Message -----

From: Mfortsch@...

To: comicsape@...

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 11:11 AM

Subject: Re: PLANET OF THE APES 2001 -Script!-

In a message dated 01-02-11 02:57:58 EST, you write:

<< may I ask where you got it? >>

dont ask,dont tell!

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.html I am also wondering about Doug Monech -- I haven't been able to find any info on him on the web; I know he wrote many of the Marvel Comics and that he adapted I think Battle for the Planet of the Apes for comics but I need to know what he wrote about, i.e., did his POTA references include the Alpha-Omega bomb from Beneath?  Could you possibly clarify the role Monech has played in the comic book adaptations? <.html

.html WOW!  I know ape-fans are harsh, but you guys are BRUTAL!!!  Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe this Tim Murley artist is "handicapped"?  Alot of mentally disabled people have artistic ability.  Although the subjects are barely recognizable, this guy's work does show an understanding of composition and color.  Maybe he has downs syndrome or something, but his work does display a fundamental comprehension of art theory, albeit a bit too abstract for my tastes.

So the poor guy posted a piece on eBay to jump on the band-wagon.  Big deal.  We've all seen worse.  I just think you folks are being a bit too hard on the guy.   Okay, so he's just experimenting with this "child art" theme during this phase of his artistic growth.   Maybe next time he'll try photo-realism.  At least he's DOING something with his skills!  And he's included POTA's as a theme!  For that we should all be grateful that he's helping to keep the Apes alive.

There, I've said my piece.

Brian

PS:  Of course I could be wrong.  These painting could be the work of that elephant at the Phoenix Zoo!

Michael Whitty wrote:

Ken

I think the dude downloaded the wrong link.

I went to his site and found a picture entitled ape wars:

http://www.timmurley.com/image.asp?PID=198&GID=22

and another entitled Planet of the Apes (which I believe is what the guy is
actually selling).

http://www.timmurley.com/image.asp?PID=227&GID=25

Some of the images are actually recognisable, while still kinda crap.

Then go to:

http://www.timmurley.com/gallery.asp?GID=23

You will find some quite acceptable pics of "Nightmare before Xmas" and then
scroll down a bit for "Behold the Nightmare" as being auctioned on eBay -
probably should have something to do with "Nightmare before Xmas" but still
very unrecognisable.

Well that was a lot of energy for nothing.............

He should be auctioning the shit he's taking....noe THAT I would pay good
money for!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From:   Ken & Heather Taylor [mailto:kentaylor@...]
Sent:   Sunday, 11 February 2001 15:34
To:     pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject:        [pota] ART SHALL NEVER KILL ART

I realise that art is subjective, but I think this is pushing it a bit..

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At 01:31 PM 2/11/01 -0500, Adrienne Weiss wrote:

>POTA fans... can you help me? I'm conducting a fact-check and need some
>confirmation on the following:
>
>Do the following films have POTA references, spoofs, etc., in them?
>
>8 Days a Week (1997)

The reference is a little over an hour into the movie, and it is as follows:

I had tried everything to win over my beloved Erica, but nothing had
worked. Nothing was going to work. All it had done was strand me
in the "friend zone" like Charlton Heston being marooned in the Planet
of the Apes.

--

Brian C. Madsen
BCMadsen@...
(work: brian.madsen@...)
http://home.earthlink.net/~bcmadsen/

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I see on the Fox site August 9th is now the official release (cue
Alex slapping his forehead!) Last I read the UK won't see it till
Sept, so c'mon guys... no letting the "Shock ending" out of the bag.

 

You know Dave I saw that as well, but I took that as the U.K. release seeing that the top of the page said U.K..

Is that the U.S. release?

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

P.S. How are those PC Wallpapers coming?

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I think he'd better have a handicap. It wasn't the art that got me. It was
that he was starting the bidding at 39 bucks. For me it's like French New
Wave Cinema or Italian Neo-Realism or German Expressionist Film. Some film
students may feel that that sort of thing is high art! But for me, with few
exceptions, you may as well wipe your ass with canvas and call it art. As
someone once said, what is one man's artistic choice is another excuse for
artistic laziness. And I agree with him Goddard's Breathless was a piece of
shit. And I had to sit through that stinkbuger twice! Now if Koko the
gorilla had painted it I'd pay $40, but if it was Michael the gorilla, I'd
pay $50!

Don't foget The Spy Who Shagged Me

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PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS !

THANKS

 

1. When did you first see any of the Planet of the Apes films or TV
programmes? On television.

 

Which one did you see first? Beneath the Planet of the Apes

 

Where? CBS Friday Night Movie, will never forget it!

 

How old were you? Hard to remember, so I would say between 7 and 8. It was the first time shown on television

 

What was your reaction? Just watching the previews as were all CBS friday night moive intros were awesome, I was jumping up and down like an Ape! My dad almost had to take off his belt to quite me down, but it never got that far. But that's how excited I was.

 

How do you feel it compared with other films you saw around
the same time? Golden Voyage of Sinbad never came close! Apes was the best I've seen by far.

 

What do you remember now about that "first time"?

The color, Underground and Mendez colors were so rich! Perhaps it was because the first time, but I never saw Beneath the same way again. Until DVD came around, the best quality picture ever!

2. How did your interest in Planet of the Apes develop over the years?

Not very well because of the fact that apes didn't continue beyond the '70s, so now with the remake that excitment will rise again, truth is, it already has! During the '70s '80s and '90s I've only had my comics and movies to carry me threw. At the moment I have all comics to the original films, DVD, video tape widescreen and t.v. format, t.v and cartoon series.

 

How many times have you seen the films? WOW! I lost count!

But I will tell you that I know all 5 films word for word. Hows that?

 

Do you collect memorabilia? Very little. Movies are my thing. Comics and action figures. Medicoms now thanks too the group. Great advise to buy.

 

What are your most valuable items, your most unusual items and your
favourites? Again the moives above all, sorry.

 

Have you been to conventions or met the stars or anything like
that? I met Chalton Heston at Disney's MGM Studios, cool guy!

 

What do your friends think of your interest/passion/obsession?

They think I'm an ape nut! :o)

3. Why do you think Planet of the Apes remains so popular?

A film that deals with many issues we deal with even today as Eric Greene put it quite well.

On top of it being a fantastic film/s

And of course there's the fans, the number one factor.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Sorry about that last rant. Maybe the guy is a genius. If I saw that thing
on a coffee cup I might say . . . Hey, cool coffee cup! Maybe he's the next
Jackson Pollock. I don't care for much of his stuff either. I guess I'm
just still pissed about having to sit through Breathless again.

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Terry Hoknes wrote:

 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS !THANKSHi I'm Brian Penikas, Keeper of the Glue and Faith for APEMANIA.COM
 
 1. When did you first see any of the Planet of the Apes films or TV
programmes?
I caught the first POTA film on Black and White TV when I was in Elementary School (5th or 6th grade?) sometime before BATTLE was released.
 

Which one did you see first?
POTA
 

Where?
on Black and White TV in my bedroom
 

How old were you?
Yikes!!  10? 11?
 

What was
your reaction?
I remember being completely caught off guard by the end of the first film.  Nearly choked on my pbj when I realized Taylor had been on earth the whole time!  The whole "cold-war" fear was still a very real everyday thing in those days.
 

How do you feel it compared with other films you saw around
the same time?
It certainly left an impact on me!  Between seeing POTA on tv, Battle being released in theatres, and the tv series starting up, my friends and I were all set to start building our own ape army.  And HEY!!!  WE DID!!!
 

What do you remember now about that "first time"?
I remember when the ads for CONQUEST were on the radio when I was in the 4th grade, and they SCARED ME!!!  (I was such a woosie then!)
 

2. How did your interest in Planet of the Apes develop over the years?
It was the deciding influence for me to pursue make-up and effects as a career.  Burt Lancaster's Moreau and Star Wars set that goal in stone (or plaster, depending on how you look at it).
 

How
many times have you seen the films?
Consciously?  I've only seen POTA once on the big screen, and believe it or not, that was at the 30th Anniversary Party at the Motion Picture Academy when we were escorts for Roddy McDowall, Kim Hunter, and Charlton Heston.

Videos? I've worn out several dozen of them in years gone by.
 

Do you collect memorabilia? If so, what?
Photos and original ape movie props and wardrobe items.

What are your most valuable items, your most unusual items and your
favourites?
Most personal item in my collection?  The thing that stands out from all the goodies most is a bottle of wine given to John Chambers by Roddy (with a wonderful "my hero" inscription) at John's 75th b-day party.  John gave it to me a while back in appreciation for all Apemania has done for him.
 

Have you been to conventions or met the stars or anything like
that?
Ehh...you might say so.
 

What do your friends think of your interest/passion/obsession?
Most want to know when they can join up or how to be a part of it.
 

3. Why do you think Planet of the Apes remains so popular?
Primates are genuinely fascinating creatures, being so closely related to humans.  They are "familiar".   It's a known fact in publishing, that if you put a photo of an ape on the cover of your publication, your sales are almost guaranteed to increase 30%.  Just plain old human interest.  People love apes.
 

Feel free to pass this email onto anyone else you think might be interesting
in sharing their feelings. The only thing is that I would need their
responses by 20 February.

THANKS
 

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There's a blurb in the new Make-Up Artist magazine.
It has a pic of the Orang in the bodysuit from American Mule.

Internet Going
Bananas!
CYBERSPACE -
American Mule
Entertainment, a
small independent
comic book company
out of San Francisco
is currently publishing
unauthoized photos
from the upcoming
Planet of the Apes on their website,
(americanmule.com) These pictures
disclose test make-ups Rick Baker's
Cinovation studios, ranging from chi-
mpanzees, to gorillas, complete with
dialoge in cartoon bubbles above the
characters' heads. However this is NOT a
website for childeren, as the conversations
between the apes is closer to that of Fritz
The Cat then Felix Cat. The legal
department at Twentieth Century Fox
Decliend to make statements at this time.

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In a message dated 2/11/01 6:15:12 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< Damn!
That little Ctrl V works great! >>

Yessirie!
Another tip . . . Just as Clrt C is copy . . . Ctrl X is cut.
So if you want to remove something completely,
and maybe paste it elsewhere it's mighty handy!
Explore the Edit functions at the top of the page for more shortcuts.
I just noticed Ctrl = is a shortcut to spell check. I just used it for this
e-mail.
I gotta remember that one.

Jeff Krueger sez:

1. I'm surprised no one commented on the "Vanity Fair" pics. I found the
mag (March 2001) on Feb. 8 and there they were. Good pictures. What I found
interesting was how much they look like the original costumes. The gorillas
have sleeveless vests, the chimps have the knitted material underneath, but
it all looks dark and Burtoney. Cute to see Burton with his dog Poppy (star
of "Mars Attacks"). Also, it was funny to see that babe Estelle Warren all
by her lonesome while Wahlberg was making time with the chimp.
Not so amusing were Zanuck's quotes: " We don't have any lofty
philosophical questions to answerwith this picture. It's today's filmmaking
approach. The equipment is better, every thing is better and bigger and
costlier". That's a perfect summation of why movies suck now and Zanuck is
wearing it like a badge of honor. I was really pissed off when I heard that.
But, even though this seems to be an exclusive, the caption writer got in a
nice jab, comparing the original to the classic "Grand Illusion" and the new
one (as described by Zanuck) to "Armageddon" ("Armageddumb"). I'll continue
to look forward to the movie. Burton puts too much of himself into his
movies to make a brain dead "Armageddon". If it's as Zanuck says then I
won't support it. But what really bothered me was that Zanuck seemed to
knocking the original because it was thoughtful. Well, LIVE with it, Zanuck.
If you just want to do a big action picture than remake something ELSE! If
you sift out the social conerns because the youngin' s find thinking to be a
downer, you're going to get nailed. You'll make your fuckin' bucks but
you'll also disappoint. I at least trust Burton to understand what made that
series memorable long after special effects and budgets outdid it. In the
"Apes" documentary Zanuck also seemed to be clueless about the social
commentary in the original, so what, me worry? Just keep track of the
budget, Zanuck. Leave the moviemaking to someone with a soul.

2. Screw it, now I'm pissed. I'll get back to you guys.

- - - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:59 AM
Subject: RE: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs


> I think that's the Aussie release date - now I'm saving up to come see the
> opening in the US then off to Memphis. I'll be driving in a 65 Pontiac
> Grand Prix (with some rust damage from driving thousands of miles through
> the ocean) and sleeping on the back seat in my official Planet of the Apes
> bean bag. I may knock on you door so stock up the fridge. You coming
Ken?
> I know you have a sleeping bag too......
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Ballard [dballard@...]
> Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 22:53
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
>
> I would imagine that a high profile movie such as this will see an
> "official" release of the script for sale. Do any of you guys
> have/remember the "T2" script with all those hundreds of small
> scene-by-scene pix?
>
> I wonder if there will be a novelization?
>
> Wouldn't it be great if they open the movie with the message
> "Dedicated to Arthur and Roddy" More likely it'll be dedicated to
> Burton's Chi-wa-wa though (yeah I know that's spelt wrong)
>
> I see on the Fox site August 9th is now the official release (cue
> Alex slapping his forehead!) Last I read the UK won't see it till
> Sept, so c'mon guys... no letting the "Shock ending" out of the bag.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yeah I'll look into the record player deal. I may not get one until next
month but I definitely want one.

Loc

Jeff Krueger sez:

2. Today is the start of "Toy Fair" in New York (through Thusday). What
does that mean to you? Well, you'll finally get to see the hot new "Harry
Potter" and "Josey and the Pussycats" collectibles you've been waiting for.
Oh, and also the ones for that "Ape" thing, what's it called? For those who
want to keep tabs on the event, I'd recommend www.tomart.com or some like
toy web site. Theyusually have good pics the dayafter a particular event
(they unveil certain lines on certain days.

3. Someone brought up "Phantom Menace" and how "Star Wars" fans were left in
the lurch (not unlike "Addams Family" fans) in favor of the kiddies. IN an
article in last Friday's "Hollywood Reorter" a Fox rep said they are
planning a "dual-prong" approach with "Apes", hoping to satisfy both kids
and adult collectors. Burton also said he wanted to respect the original,
unlike certain PRODUCERS (see Comment #1 below).

4. Topps is doing the "Apes" cards so I guess we can kiss off that 2nd set
of Inkworks collectors cards. I'm dissappointed that Fox seems to be going
for the biggest companies instead of (in my opinion) the best : Hasbro over
McFarland (McFarland himself is an acknowledged "Apes" fan and has done well
with recent Burton properties); Topps over Inkworks (who earned the right
with that previous set, when noone else wanted to do "Apes").

5. It's been reported that Fox has spent around $140 million to upgrade it's

6. Bill Blake says his former partner Paula Crist sneaked over to Malibu
Canyon and took part of the Icarus (I think the door) late at night when it
was being used for a TV show or something.

7. Let us not forget that during the entire run of the original "Apes" films
in theatres, there was no merchandise lines, just a set of trading cards and
a "Beneath" comic.

8. Questionaire? Who wants to know?

9. 'Lost Episodes": There are four unfilmed scripts for the TV show making
the rounds but there are no filmed episodes that were never broadcast.

10. Power Records: On the "Ape Has Killed Ape" CD "Mattricide", Matt uses
Power Record samples, including a chant of "Ursus, lead us, Ursus lead us. .
. " and end of the records repeatedly ("At the tone, please turn the record
over...ding!"). Matt likes to play on these 70's childhood trappings. He did
a song called "Kung-Fu Grip" . At the concerts, he put xeroxed pages from
the "Apes" coloring books on the tables (with crayons). Can you imagine?
While the band played, people actually doodled on these , drank beer,
cheered. Quite a show.

- - - - Jeff
Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: [pota] Essence and Ape


> Jeff Krueger sez:
>
> 1. I'm surprised no one commented on the "Vanity Fair" pics. I found the
> mag (March 2001) on Feb. 8 and there they were. Good pictures. What I
found
> interesting was how much they look like the original costumes. The
gorillas
> have sleeveless vests, the chimps have the knitted material underneath,
but
> it all looks dark and Burtoney. Cute to see Burton with his dog Poppy
(star
> of "Mars Attacks"). Also, it was funny to see that babe Estelle Warren all
> by her lonesome while Wahlberg was making time with the chimp.
> Not so amusing were Zanuck's quotes: " We don't have any lofty
> philosophical questions to answerwith this picture. It's today's
filmmaking
> approach. The equipment is better, every thing is better and bigger and
> costlier". That's a perfect summation of why movies suck now and Zanuck is
> wearing it like a badge of honor. I was really pissed off when I heard
that.
> But, even though this seems to be an exclusive, the caption writer got in
a
> nice jab, comparing the original to the classic "Grand Illusion" and the
new
> one (as described by Zanuck) to "Armageddon" ("Armageddumb"). I'll
continue
> to look forward to the movie. Burton puts too much of himself into his
> movies to make a brain dead "Armageddon". If it's as Zanuck says then I
> won't support it. But what really bothered me was that Zanuck seemed to
> knocking the original because it was thoughtful. Well, LIVE with it,
Zanuck.
> If you just want to do a big action picture than remake something ELSE! If
> you sift out the social conerns because the youngin' s find thinking to be
a
> downer, you're going to get nailed. You'll make your fuckin' bucks but
> you'll also disappoint. I at least trust Burton to understand what made
that
> series memorable long after special effects and budgets outdid it. In the
> "Apes" documentary Zanuck also seemed to be clueless about the social
> commentary in the original, so what, me worry? Just keep track of the
> budget, Zanuck. Leave the moviemaking to someone with a soul.
>
> 2. Screw it, now I'm pissed. I'll get back to you guys.
>
> - - - - Jeff
Krueger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:59 AM
> Subject: RE: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
>
>
> > I think that's the Aussie release date - now I'm saving up to come see
the
> > opening in the US then off to Memphis. I'll be driving in a 65 Pontiac
> > Grand Prix (with some rust damage from driving thousands of miles
through
> > the ocean) and sleeping on the back seat in my official Planet of the
Apes
> > bean bag. I may knock on you door so stock up the fridge. You coming
> Ken?
> > I know you have a sleeping bag too......
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Ballard [dballard@...]
> > Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 22:53
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
> >
> > I would imagine that a high profile movie such as this will see an
> > "official" release of the script for sale. Do any of you guys
> > have/remember the "T2" script with all those hundreds of small
> > scene-by-scene pix?
> >
> > I wonder if there will be a novelization?
> >
> > Wouldn't it be great if they open the movie with the message
> > "Dedicated to Arthur and Roddy" More likely it'll be dedicated to
> > Burton's Chi-wa-wa though (yeah I know that's spelt wrong)
> >
> > I see on the Fox site August 9th is now the official release (cue
> > Alex slapping his forehead!) Last I read the UK won't see it till
> > Sept, so c'mon guys... no letting the "Shock ending" out of the bag.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

11. Goldsmith/Elfman: I met Jerry Goldsmith when Matt Stein (of "Ape Has
Killed Ape") and I went to a tribute of his TV work at the Museum of
Television and Radio in Los Angeles. He was very excited about his upcoming
concerts (I think this was in '99), a new endeavor for him that he enjoys.
He said his dream project is to do a "Star Trek" opera (??!) and that
Franklin Schaffner was the director he was most simpatico with (he did
most - or all?- of Schaffner's films plus TV work together). I like Danny
Elfman's work and, well, Tim Burton is the director HE"S most simpatico
with. Elfman got his big break on Burton's "Pee Wee's Big Adventure" and
he's done all of Burton's films except "Ed Wood" (including writing the
songs and singing for Jack Skellington in "Nightmare Before X-Mas"). Elfman
has 2 albums out that sample his wide-ranging film work (including the theme
to "The Simpsons"). Whew!

12. The Script: Don't sweat it. Those things get xeroxed like crazy when
they get out. It'll breed like rabbits (the new script).

- - - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Dumont" <afryt4u@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 7:33 AM
Subject: [pota] CHOICES Quicktime Player


> Actually, the direct download link is
>
<http://download.cnet.com/downloads/1,10150,0-10000-103-0-1-7,00.htmltag=&q
t=Quicktime&cn=&ca=10000>
>
> Brian
>
> Michael Whitty wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a link to the site where you can download a "Quicktime"
> > player?
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:35 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] POTA QUESTIONNAIRE

 

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS !

THANKS

 

1. When did you first see any of the Planet of the Apes films or TV
programmes? On television.

 

Which one did you see first? Beneath the Planet of the Apes

 

Where? CBS Friday Night Movie, will never forget it!

 

How old were you? Hard to remember, so I would say between 7 and 8. It was the first time shown on television

 

What was your reaction? Just watching the previews as were all CBS friday night moive intros were awesome, I was jumping up and down like an Ape! My dad almost had to take off his belt to quite me down, but it never got that far. But that's how excited I was.

 

How do you feel it compared with other films you saw around
the same time? Golden Voyage of Sinbad never came close! Apes was the best I've seen by far.

 

What do you remember now about that "first time"?

The color, Underground and Mendez colors were so rich! Perhaps it was because the first time, but I never saw Beneath the same way again. Until DVD came around, the best quality picture ever!

2. How did your interest in Planet of the Apes develop over the years?

Not very well because of the fact that apes didn't continue beyond the '70s, so now with the remake that excitment will rise again, truth is, it already has! During the '70s '80s and '90s I've only had my comics and movies to carry me threw. At the moment I have all comics to the original films, DVD, video tape widescreen and t.v. format, t.v and cartoon series.

 

How many times have you seen the films? WOW! I lost count!

But I will tell you that I know all 5 films word for word. Hows that?

 

Do you collect memorabilia? Very little. Movies are my thing. Comics and action figures. Medicoms now thanks too the group. Great advise to buy.

 

What are your most valuable items, your most unusual items and your
favourites? Again the moives above all, sorry.

 

Have you been to conventions or met the stars or anything like
that? I met Chalton Heston at Disney's MGM Studios, cool guy!

 

What do your friends think of your interest/passion/obsession?

They think I'm an ape nut! :o)

3. Why do you think Planet of the Apes remains so popular?

A film that deals with many issues we deal with even today as Eric Greene put it quite well.

On top of it being a fantastic film/s

And of course there's the fans, the number one factor.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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In a message dated 2/11/01 3:48:39 PM Central Standard Time,
comicsape@... writes:

<< PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS !
THANKS

1. When did you first see any of the Planet of the Apes films or TV
programmes? Which one did you see first? Where? How old were you? What was
your reaction? How do you feel it compared with other films you saw around
the same time? What do you remember now about that "first time"?>>


It was Planet and I saw it at a downtown Dallas theater when it first came
out.
I was about seven and I was blown away! I think I got a bit dozy towards the
end. To compare it to other films of the time, 2001 was out around then. I
got sleep during that one too. When it happened During POTA I was pissed!
During 2001 I didn't care. As it turns out the scenes I was nodding on were
inconsequential. One was wondering in the forbbiden zone and the other was
just a psycadelic light show.


<<2. How did your interest in Planet of the Apes develop over the years? How
many times have you seen the films? Do you collect memorabilia? If so, what?
What are your most valuable items, your most unusual items and your
favourites? Have you been to conventions or met the stars or anything like
that? What do your friends think of your interest/passion/obsession?>>


Like a snowball, into an avalanche. More than I can count. Yes I collect.
The items that cost the most were a batch of flawed appliences I won from
Brian on eBay. I was going to touch them up and recast them. But my sense
of fairplay coupled with Apemania's licensing agreement with Fox changed all
that. The think it's wacky, but most of the things I'm into are anyway.


3. Why do you think Planet of the Apes remains so popular? >>


Aside from the fascinating story and and great ending nothing beats people
made up as apes that talk! What could be better than that? I actually saw a
chimp talk once at the Hogle Zoo. Sure she only said a couple words and had
to hold her nose to do it. But it brought the house down!

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS !
THANKS
ANDREW
1. When did you first see any of the Planet of the Apes films or TV
programmes? Which one did you see first? Where? How old were you? What was
your reaction? How do you feel it compared with other films you saw around
the same time? What do you remember now about that "first time"?
I FIRST SAW THE FIRST THREE POTA MOVIES AROUND 1990 ON TBS I THINK. THEY
SHOWED THEM IN ORDER. I WOULD HAVE BEEN 15. I LOVED THEM! I'VE ALWAYS LOVED
SCI-FI SINCE I FIRST SAW STAR WARS. BACK THEN I WAS INTO STAR TREK THE NEXT
GENERATION BIG TIME. THE MOVIES HAD GREAT ACTING, GREAT PLOT, ETC. IT WAS
UNLIKE ANY FILM OR TV SHOW AT THE TIME OR WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT. I DON'T
REMEMBER MUCH ABOUT IT WHEN I FIRST SAW THEM OTHER THAN THAT I REALLY ENJOYED
THEM.
2. How did your interest in Planet of the Apes develop over the years? How
many times have you seen the films? Do you collect memorabilia? If so, what?
What are your most valuable items, your most unusual items and your
favourites? Have you been to conventions or met the stars or anything like
that? What do your friends think of your interest/passion/obsession? MY
INTEREST IN APES BEGAN LAST YEAR (I'M A BIG NEWBIE) WHEN AN ONLINE FRIEND OF
MINE KEPT TELLING ME HOW GREAT THEY WERE. I KNEW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THEM. THEN
WHEN THE DVD SET CAME OUT I BOUGHT THEM AND LOVED THEM. I REMEMBERED NOTHING
ABOUT THE PLOT EXCEPT THE ENDING FROM THE FIRST TIME I HAD SEEN THEM. I HAVE
WATCHED THE FIRST MOVIE ABOUT 3 TIMES (COUNTING WHEN I FIRST SAW THEM AND
TWICE SINCE I GOT THE DVDS.) I HAVE NOT WATCHED THEM MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE I
RARELY WATCH TELEVISION BUT I'M SURE I WILL WATCH THEM DOZENS OF TIMES MORE.
I HAVE STARTED AN APES COLLECTION. SO FAR I HAVE THE 6IN FIGURES AND 3 12IN.
THEY ARE FROM THE HASBRO SERIES. I WOULD LOVE THE MEDICOMS BUT CAN'T AFFORD
THEM. I HAVE AN ALMOST COMPLETE SET OF POTA COMICS (I'M MISSING ISSUE 6 AND
WON IT OFF EBAY AND WILL BE HERE SOON.) WHEN I GET THAT LAST ISSUE I WILL
READ THEM STRAIGHT THROUGH. I ALSO HAVE THE SET OF ALL THE APES TV SHOWS AND
CARTOONS BUT HAVE ONLY WATCHED THE FIRST TV EPISODE. LIKE I SAID I DON'T
WATCH TV. I COLLECT AUTOGRAPHS AND HAVE BEEN COLLECTING FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS
NOW. I HAVE AUTOGRAPHS FROM JAMES GREGORY, CHARLTON HESTON, AND KIM HUNTER
ALL ON APES PICTURES. MY KIM HUNTER AUTOGRAPHS ARE MY MOST PRIZED IN MY
COLLECTION. I REALLY HOPE THE THREE OF THEM AND LINDA HARRISON DO AN
AUTOGRAPH SHOW HERE IN TEXAS SINCE I GO TO ABOUT 4 OR MORE AUTOGRAPH SHOWS A
YEAR. THEY HAVE ABOUT ONE A MONTH BUT NO APES STARS HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE I
HAVE BEEN GOING. MY FRIENDS THINK I'M AN APES NUT! THEY ARE ALWAYS TELLING ME
THAT MY GIRLFRIEND IS DR. ZIRA! I LOVE IT!

3. Why do you think Planet of the Apes remains so popular?
I THINK APES IS SO POPULAR BECAUSE IS DEALS WITH SO MANY ISSUES. SCIENCE,
PHILOSOPHY, RELIGION, POLITICS, ETC. I MAY HAVE GOTTEN INTO APES LATER THAN
MOST PEOPLE BUT WITH THE NEW MOVIE ABOUT TO COME OUT I FEEL I GOT IN AT THE
RIGHT TIME. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO NUTS FOR THE NEW MOVIE AND TONS OF NEW
MERCHANDISE WILL BE AVAILABLE. I CAN'T WAIT!

Feel free to pass this email onto anyone else you think might be interesting
in sharing their feelings. The only thing is that I would need their
responses by 20 February.

THANKS

Head's up! Another "Apes" related article to watch out for. The magazine
"Comics Journal" had an epic 60 pg. interview with Tom Sutton. Remember in
Marvel's "Apes" magazine the feature called "Future History Chronicles". Tom
Sutton drew those, He also drew the mag's flagship series "Terror on the
POTA" in issues 19, 20 & 23. I didn't even know about the magazines as a
kid, but as an adult I wondered, "Who is this maniac who draws such lavish
comic books?" I know alot of people have a soft spot for Mike Ploog, but Tom
Sutton is my favorite "Apes" illustrator, and "Chronicles" is my favorite
"Apes" comic (along with another unique one, Adventure's "Urchak's Folly".
"Chronicles" got in alot of trouble with fans because it's so out there,
taking place in a world of city-ships. Someone here said it looks alot like
what we've seen of Burton's movie and I see a resemblance. Burton has said
he was never much of a comics reader, but perhaps he used to read Marvel's
magazine, which isn't really a comic book, it's a "monster magazine" (Burton
has said "Apes" was an influence on him). Perhaps Sutton's work stuck in his
blender of a brain. Sutton also used to do alot of gothic horror comics and,
of course, gothic horror is a mainstay of Burton's work.

The article only devotes about 2 pages to Sutton's "Apes" work but
highlights it as one of his best. It seemed unique because it was unique.
Sutton and writer Doug Moench really went all out on it. Explains Sutton:
"Doug had figured this whole goddamn thing out - everything! It was like he
was writing a novel or something. And he was not very happy when they
decided, after three, four, five issues, whatever there were , that they
just aborted the thing." (Sutton says they had planned 8 parts; only 5 were
published). As for himself, " I didn't have to deal with costumed
superheroes and I didn't have to deal with a lot of other things I didn't
like. These (characters) I really did like. They were relevant. They were
almost different folks getting together, trying to get along within a highly
confined situation like a city."
He says he went way beyond the monetary considerations because "I think I
would have done almost anything. I wanted that book to work.There are things
that you want to work, for your own reasons , whatever they are...I would
make enormous drawings. These things were twice the size, easily twice the
size. And I'd make these very, very tight drawings, which I hardly ever
did".

"Future History Chronicles" appear in Marvel # 12, 15, 17 , 24 & 29. The
interview is in "Comics Journal" #230 (Feb. 2001); Two covers are available,
both by Sutton.

- - - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 7:03 PM
Subject: [pota] Toy Fair


> Jeff Krueger sez:
>
> 2. Today is the start of "Toy Fair" in New York (through Thusday). What
> does that mean to you? Well, you'll finally get to see the hot new "Harry
> Potter" and "Josey and the Pussycats" collectibles you've been waiting
for.
> Oh, and also the ones for that "Ape" thing, what's it called? For those
who
> want to keep tabs on the event, I'd recommend www.tomart.com or some like
> toy web site. Theyusually have good pics the dayafter a particular event
> (they unveil certain lines on certain days.
>
> 3. Someone brought up "Phantom Menace" and how "Star Wars" fans were left
in
> the lurch (not unlike "Addams Family" fans) in favor of the kiddies. IN an
> article in last Friday's "Hollywood Reorter" a Fox rep said they are
> planning a "dual-prong" approach with "Apes", hoping to satisfy both kids
> and adult collectors. Burton also said he wanted to respect the original,
> unlike certain PRODUCERS (see Comment #1 below).
>
> 4. Topps is doing the "Apes" cards so I guess we can kiss off that 2nd set
> of Inkworks collectors cards. I'm dissappointed that Fox seems to be going
> for the biggest companies instead of (in my opinion) the best : Hasbro
over
> McFarland (McFarland himself is an acknowledged "Apes" fan and has done
well
> with recent Burton properties); Topps over Inkworks (who earned the right
> with that previous set, when noone else wanted to do "Apes").
>
> 5. It's been reported that Fox has spent around $140 million to upgrade
it's
>
> 6. Bill Blake says his former partner Paula Crist sneaked over to Malibu
> Canyon and took part of the Icarus (I think the door) late at night when
it
> was being used for a TV show or something.
>
> 7. Let us not forget that during the entire run of the original "Apes"
films
> in theatres, there was no merchandise lines, just a set of trading cards
and
> a "Beneath" comic.
>
> 8. Questionaire? Who wants to know?
>
> 9. 'Lost Episodes": There are four unfilmed scripts for the TV show making
> the rounds but there are no filmed episodes that were never broadcast.
>
> 10. Power Records: On the "Ape Has Killed Ape" CD "Mattricide", Matt uses
> Power Record samples, including a chant of "Ursus, lead us, Ursus lead us.
.
> . " and end of the records repeatedly ("At the tone, please turn the
record
> over...ding!"). Matt likes to play on these 70's childhood trappings. He
did
> a song called "Kung-Fu Grip" . At the concerts, he put xeroxed pages from
> the "Apes" coloring books on the tables (with crayons). Can you imagine?
> While the band played, people actually doodled on these , drank beer,
> cheered. Quite a show.
>
> - - - - Jeff
> Krueger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:16 PM
> Subject: [pota] Essence and Ape
>
>
> > Jeff Krueger sez:
> >
> > 1. I'm surprised no one commented on the "Vanity Fair" pics. I found
the
> > mag (March 2001) on Feb. 8 and there they were. Good pictures. What I
> found
> > interesting was how much they look like the original costumes. The
> gorillas
> > have sleeveless vests, the chimps have the knitted material underneath,
> but
> > it all looks dark and Burtoney. Cute to see Burton with his dog Poppy
> (star
> > of "Mars Attacks"). Also, it was funny to see that babe Estelle Warren
all
> > by her lonesome while Wahlberg was making time with the chimp.
> > Not so amusing were Zanuck's quotes: " We don't have any lofty
> > philosophical questions to answerwith this picture. It's today's
> filmmaking
> > approach. The equipment is better, every thing is better and bigger and
> > costlier". That's a perfect summation of why movies suck now and Zanuck
is
> > wearing it like a badge of honor. I was really pissed off when I heard
> that.
> > But, even though this seems to be an exclusive, the caption writer got
in
> a
> > nice jab, comparing the original to the classic "Grand Illusion" and the
> new
> > one (as described by Zanuck) to "Armageddon" ("Armageddumb"). I'll
> continue
> > to look forward to the movie. Burton puts too much of himself into his
> > movies to make a brain dead "Armageddon". If it's as Zanuck says then I
> > won't support it. But what really bothered me was that Zanuck seemed to
> > knocking the original because it was thoughtful. Well, LIVE with it,
> Zanuck.
> > If you just want to do a big action picture than remake something ELSE!
If
> > you sift out the social conerns because the youngin' s find thinking to
be
> a
> > downer, you're going to get nailed. You'll make your fuckin' bucks but
> > you'll also disappoint. I at least trust Burton to understand what made
> that
> > series memorable long after special effects and budgets outdid it. In
the
> > "Apes" documentary Zanuck also seemed to be clueless about the social
> > commentary in the original, so what, me worry? Just keep track of the
> > budget, Zanuck. Leave the moviemaking to someone with a soul.
> >
> > 2. Screw it, now I'm pissed. I'll get back to you guys.
> >
> > - - - - Jeff
> Krueger
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:59 AM
> > Subject: RE: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
> >
> >
> > > I think that's the Aussie release date - now I'm saving up to come see
> the
> > > opening in the US then off to Memphis. I'll be driving in a 65
Pontiac
> > > Grand Prix (with some rust damage from driving thousands of miles
> through
> > > the ocean) and sleeping on the back seat in my official Planet of the
> Apes
> > > bean bag. I may knock on you door so stock up the fridge. You coming
> > Ken?
> > > I know you have a sleeping bag too......
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Ballard [dballard@...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 22:53
> > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
> > >
> > > I would imagine that a high profile movie such as this will see an
> > > "official" release of the script for sale. Do any of you guys
> > > have/remember the "T2" script with all those hundreds of small
> > > scene-by-scene pix?
> > >
> > > I wonder if there will be a novelization?
> > >
> > > Wouldn't it be great if they open the movie with the message
> > > "Dedicated to Arthur and Roddy" More likely it'll be dedicated to
> > > Burton's Chi-wa-wa though (yeah I know that's spelt wrong)
> > >
> > > I see on the Fox site August 9th is now the official release (cue
> > > Alex slapping his forehead!) Last I read the UK won't see it till
> > > Sept, so c'mon guys... no letting the "Shock ending" out of the bag.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

According to one of the websites, Hasbro will be presenting their crap at
Toy Fair onThursday, the last day. Check the toy websites that night or
Friday for the goods (and the bads). - - - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 7:03 PM
Subject: [pota] Toy Fair


> Jeff Krueger sez:
>
> 2. Today is the start of "Toy Fair" in New York (through Thusday). What
> does that mean to you? Well, you'll finally get to see the hot new "Harry
> Potter" and "Josey and the Pussycats" collectibles you've been waiting
for.
> Oh, and also the ones for that "Ape" thing, what's it called? For those
who
> want to keep tabs on the event, I'd recommend www.tomart.com or some like
> toy web site. Theyusually have good pics the dayafter a particular event
> (they unveil certain lines on certain days.
>
> 3. Someone brought up "Phantom Menace" and how "Star Wars" fans were left
in
> the lurch (not unlike "Addams Family" fans) in favor of the kiddies. IN an
> article in last Friday's "Hollywood Reorter" a Fox rep said they are
> planning a "dual-prong" approach with "Apes", hoping to satisfy both kids
> and adult collectors. Burton also said he wanted to respect the original,
> unlike certain PRODUCERS (see Comment #1 below).
>
> 4. Topps is doing the "Apes" cards so I guess we can kiss off that 2nd set
> of Inkworks collectors cards. I'm dissappointed that Fox seems to be going
> for the biggest companies instead of (in my opinion) the best : Hasbro
over
> McFarland (McFarland himself is an acknowledged "Apes" fan and has done
well
> with recent Burton properties); Topps over Inkworks (who earned the right
> with that previous set, when noone else wanted to do "Apes").
>
> 5. It's been reported that Fox has spent around $140 million to upgrade
it's
>
> 6. Bill Blake says his former partner Paula Crist sneaked over to Malibu
> Canyon and took part of the Icarus (I think the door) late at night when
it
> was being used for a TV show or something.
>
> 7. Let us not forget that during the entire run of the original "Apes"
films
> in theatres, there was no merchandise lines, just a set of trading cards
and
> a "Beneath" comic.
>
> 8. Questionaire? Who wants to know?
>
> 9. 'Lost Episodes": There are four unfilmed scripts for the TV show making
> the rounds but there are no filmed episodes that were never broadcast.
>
> 10. Power Records: On the "Ape Has Killed Ape" CD "Mattricide", Matt uses
> Power Record samples, including a chant of "Ursus, lead us, Ursus lead us.
.
> . " and end of the records repeatedly ("At the tone, please turn the
record
> over...ding!"). Matt likes to play on these 70's childhood trappings. He
did
> a song called "Kung-Fu Grip" . At the concerts, he put xeroxed pages from
> the "Apes" coloring books on the tables (with crayons). Can you imagine?
> While the band played, people actually doodled on these , drank beer,
> cheered. Quite a show.
>
> - - - - Jeff
> Krueger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:16 PM
> Subject: [pota] Essence and Ape
>
>
> > Jeff Krueger sez:
> >
> > 1. I'm surprised no one commented on the "Vanity Fair" pics. I found
the
> > mag (March 2001) on Feb. 8 and there they were. Good pictures. What I
> found
> > interesting was how much they look like the original costumes. The
> gorillas
> > have sleeveless vests, the chimps have the knitted material underneath,
> but
> > it all looks dark and Burtoney. Cute to see Burton with his dog Poppy
> (star
> > of "Mars Attacks"). Also, it was funny to see that babe Estelle Warren
all
> > by her lonesome while Wahlberg was making time with the chimp.
> > Not so amusing were Zanuck's quotes: " We don't have any lofty
> > philosophical questions to answerwith this picture. It's today's
> filmmaking
> > approach. The equipment is better, every thing is better and bigger and
> > costlier". That's a perfect summation of why movies suck now and Zanuck
is
> > wearing it like a badge of honor. I was really pissed off when I heard
> that.
> > But, even though this seems to be an exclusive, the caption writer got
in
> a
> > nice jab, comparing the original to the classic "Grand Illusion" and the
> new
> > one (as described by Zanuck) to "Armageddon" ("Armageddumb"). I'll
> continue
> > to look forward to the movie. Burton puts too much of himself into his
> > movies to make a brain dead "Armageddon". If it's as Zanuck says then I
> > won't support it. But what really bothered me was that Zanuck seemed to
> > knocking the original because it was thoughtful. Well, LIVE with it,
> Zanuck.
> > If you just want to do a big action picture than remake something ELSE!
If
> > you sift out the social conerns because the youngin' s find thinking to
be
> a
> > downer, you're going to get nailed. You'll make your fuckin' bucks but
> > you'll also disappoint. I at least trust Burton to understand what made
> that
> > series memorable long after special effects and budgets outdid it. In
the
> > "Apes" documentary Zanuck also seemed to be clueless about the social
> > commentary in the original, so what, me worry? Just keep track of the
> > budget, Zanuck. Leave the moviemaking to someone with a soul.
> >
> > 2. Screw it, now I'm pissed. I'll get back to you guys.
> >
> > - - - - Jeff
> Krueger
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:59 AM
> > Subject: RE: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
> >
> >
> > > I think that's the Aussie release date - now I'm saving up to come see
> the
> > > opening in the US then off to Memphis. I'll be driving in a 65
Pontiac
> > > Grand Prix (with some rust damage from driving thousands of miles
> through
> > > the ocean) and sleeping on the back seat in my official Planet of the
> Apes
> > > bean bag. I may knock on you door so stock up the fridge. You coming
> > Ken?
> > > I know you have a sleeping bag too......
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Ballard [dballard@...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 22:53
> > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
> > >
> > > I would imagine that a high profile movie such as this will see an
> > > "official" release of the script for sale. Do any of you guys
> > > have/remember the "T2" script with all those hundreds of small
> > > scene-by-scene pix?
> > >
> > > I wonder if there will be a novelization?
> > >
> > > Wouldn't it be great if they open the movie with the message
> > > "Dedicated to Arthur and Roddy" More likely it'll be dedicated to
> > > Burton's Chi-wa-wa though (yeah I know that's spelt wrong)
> > >
> > > I see on the Fox site August 9th is now the official release (cue
> > > Alex slapping his forehead!) Last I read the UK won't see it till
> > > Sept, so c'mon guys... no letting the "Shock ending" out of the bag.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

Okay ... This time for real!!!

> PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS

T Zero
...ask Brian...he knows.

>
> 1. When did you first see any of the Planet of the Apes films or TV
> programmes?

Spring of '68

>
>
> Which one did you see first?
>

POTA

>
>
> Where?

In a theater downtown.

>
>
> How old were you?

> Depending on whether it was before or after my birthday 6 or 7.
>
> What was
> your reaction?
>
> Absolutely blown away! Never seen anything like it! I remember asking my

Dad if they were masks or were put on in sections. Even then I was trying to
figure the make-up out.

>
> How do you feel it compared with other films you saw around
> the same time?

> Like I said 2001 was a bore compared to it. The more adult Bonnie and Clyde

the year before didn't hold my interest like POTA. Kelly's Hero's came out
the following year. It had action but it didn't make my heart race like the
Hunt in Apes.

>
> What do you remember now about that "first time"?

> I remember it was the first time my Dad took me downtown to see a movie.

And when the humans came on the screen I thought to myself, "Awww they don't
look like apes! They look like cavemen!" That's when the gorillas turned up
on horse back! Wow!

>
> 2. How did your interest in Planet of the Apes develop over the years?
>

As I said before snowballed into an avalanche!

>
>
> How
> many times have you seen the films?

A lot! I've seen them in the theaters and drive-in alone and together, on
television and video. Over and over and over again. They are burned into my
brain.

>
>
>
> Do you collect memorabilia? If so, what?

Photos, posters, models and medicos, even had the game and the trash can,
as well as a mug when they first came out. Now I've got my eye on ape
make-up and wardrobe.

>
> What are your most valuable items, your most unusual items and your
> favorites?

> Probably those appliances, though my favorite are the rare photos and an

original Beneath poster. I like my Medicom Zira too, but my Astro-Zira is on
the way.

>
> Have you been to conventions or met the stars or anything like
> that?
>
> I've been to some Sci-fi Cons and was usually disappointed in the small

amount of Apes memorabilia at them. Mostly SW & ST stuff. There was a
gorila costume at one. Never saw anyone there except for ST stars. I think
it was De Forrest Kelly. I talked to Kim Hunter a few times. Hope I can make
it to Memphis for Ape-Con 2001

>
> What do your friends think of your interest/passion/obsession?
>

Well, most of them don't get it. Their loss...
They like Ursus. I can't really blame 'em, it's the hat! It's THE power
helmet!

>
> 3. Why do you think Planet of the Apes remains so popular?

Aside from the apoclyptic theme and talking apes looking so cool, I think
it's the theme of folks putting everything on the line to help someone else,
be they human or ape.

With the exception of Beneath. Sure Zira and Cornelius helped Brent and
Nova, but then Taylor catches one, he's back in misanthrope mode. "If I'm
going . . . I'm taking the lot of you with me!!!" I understand it was just
Heston's way of killing off the series . . . little did he know. The Power
of the Planet of the Apes!!!!!

>
>
> Feel free to pass this email onto anyone else you think might be
> interesting
> in sharing their feelings. The only thing is that I would need their
> responses by 20 February.
>
> THANKS

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LordTZer0@... wrote:

Okay ... This time for real!!!

>  PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS
     T Zero
 ...ask Brian...he knows.

Hey, no fair dumping that on me!  I got my arms full with a family of apes to bathe, feed, and get off to school!
Do your own bio!

B

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----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Dumont

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:11 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] POTA QUESTIONNAIRE

 

LordTZer0@... wrote:

Okay ... This time for real!!!

>  PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS
     T Zero
 ...ask Brian...he knows.

Hey, no fair dumping that on me!  I got my arms full with a family of apes to bathe, feed, and get off to school!
Do your own bio!

B

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Rory <Haristas@...> wrote:

>They release a score a month on CD and their latest is his score to

Franklin

>Schaffner's first film "The Stripper." They are also selling Leonard
>Rosenman's score to "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" on CD AUTOGRAPHED by
>the composer. Check it out.

Last I heard they were down to about six or seven signed copies, so if you
want one, you'd better be quick (if they're not gone already).

I also see that one of their forthcoming releases is a 70s sci-fi
double-header. We can but hope...

(Actually there's a few old sci-fi films of that period that could do with a
release, not just Apes films, so I'm really looking forward to finding out
what it is)

Alan

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<< > PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS

> T Zero
> ...ask Brian...he knows.

Hey, no fair dumping that on me! I got my arms full with a family of apes to
bathe, feed, and get off to school!
Do your own bio!>>
Fair ennough . . . Here we go again . . .
<< PS: What does "LordTZer0" stand for anyhow? >>
Thanks for asking Brian.
That's a bit of a long story, but since you asked . . .

As you may remember from my bio, I used to play in a punk bank called The
Caffiends. We all had caff names, such as Count Caffula, Prince of Dark
Roast or Captain Jolt, the Lightning Bolt, etc...for those who remember Jolt
Cola. "All the sugar and twice the caffeine!" (If you want a supercharged
Rum and coke make it with 151 and Jolt!) Anyway, I was Lord T Bag The
Destroyer. Since the demise of that group I had gone back to my old name T
Zero. Everyone calls me T, since it's the initial of my first name, which I
don't particularly care for. Why zero? Well, it sounds cool, and T Zero,
which aside from being a time designation of an exact moment in time, such as
the end of a count down, for dropping H-bombs or launching space craft.
Webster's says Zero is the origin of any measurement. And the intermediate
between positive and negative values. It's also the title for a road movie
to be shot in black & white that Jim Morrison never made. Since someone else
had the screen name T Zero I kept my honorary title from the band of Lord.
And since someone else had that too I spelled Zero with a zero instead of an
oh. Or was it visa versa? There you have it Lord T Zer0!

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:27 PM

Subject: [pota] HUGE EXCLUSIVE!!!

TONIGHT ON ACCESS HOLLYWOOD!

7:00 EASTERN TIME!

PLANET OF THE APES SCENES AND INTERVIEW WITH MARK WALHBERG!

 

A friend at work told me he heard it on the radio.

I only hope he heard it right.

If it turns out to so I'll full exclusives posted on the site for those living overseas.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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In a message dated 2/11/01 10:31:18 PM Central Standard Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Christmas cards from Buck Kartalian >>

Oh yeah, I too treasure my Christmas cards from Kim, as well as a lock of her
hair that I promised not to use for voodoo or to clone her in her own
lifetime. A more gracious lady you could never hope to meet. I wonder why
she didn't do the voice for the game? Did no one ask her to? Does anyone
know?

In a message dated 2/11/01 11:48:49 PM Central Standard Time,
locutusatwolf359@... writes:

<< AUTOGRAPH SHOW HERE IN TEXAS SINCE I GO TO ABOUT 4 OR MORE AUTOGRAPH SHOWS
A YEAR. THEY HAVE ABOUT ONE A MONTH >>

Where in Texas are they?
How do you find out about them?
I hear about a Star-Con maybe once a year, if that, and that's it.

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LordTZer0@... wrote:

Okay ... This time for real!!!

>  PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS
     T Zero
 ...ask Brian...he knows.

Hey, no fair dumping that on me!  I got my arms full with a family of apes to bathe, feed, and get off to school!
Do your own bio!

B

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In a message dated 2/12/01 2:24:14 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< TONIGHT ON ACCESS HOLLYWOOD!
7:00 EASTERN TIME! >>

What channel? Cable? Network?

I don't know if it airs in the DFW area.
I can't find it in the listings.

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I'm there! If it's true they'll probably premiere the trailer like they did "X-Men" last year. Fox owns "Access Hollywood". It's possible but double-check with your friend.

 

                                                      - - - - Jeff

 

 

Believe me Jeff, I doubled and tripled checked with him :o)

He's not much of an apes fan he's a bit younger than me and grewup with Star Wars and he doesn't have the internet, so he asked me,

"Alex is Mark Wahlberg in the movie? Because that's what they said on the radio". "Planet of the Apes Scenes and interview with Mark Wahlberg".

 

And for those who have cable, also check out E! channel because when ever an exclusive such as this hits the media, you can bet the E! Cahnnel and Entertainment Tonight will be right there with it!

Happens all the time!

 

I just hope it's so! 

 

Best,

 

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:10 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] HUGE EXCLUSIVE!!!

In a message dated 2/12/01 2:24:14 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< TONIGHT ON ACCESS HOLLYWOOD!
7:00 EASTERN TIME! >>

What channel?  Cable?  Network?

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:15 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] HUGE EXCLUSIVE!!!

I don't know if it airs in the DFW area. 
I can't find it in the listings.

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In a message dated 2/11/01 8:14:54 PM Central Standard Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Zanuck. Leave the moviemaking to someone with a soul. >>

I'm with you on that one Jeff!
I'm glad he actually made the original.
Somebody had to. But I always felt Dr. Sardonicus was more interested in
making money instead of making movies.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:24 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] HUGE EXCLUSIVE!!!

Channel 6 or 4 I'm not sure, check with your local listings.

 

Best,

 

Alex

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:10 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] HUGE EXCLUSIVE!!!

In a message dated 2/12/01 2:24:14 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< TONIGHT ON ACCESS HOLLYWOOD!
7:00 EASTERN TIME! >>

What channel?  Cable?  Network?

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:21 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] HUGE EXCLUSIVE!!!

I'm there! If it's true they'll probably premiere the trailer like they did "X-Men" last year. Fox owns "Access Hollywood". It's possible but double-check with your friend.

 

                                                      - - - - Jeff

 

 

Believe me Jeff, I doubled and tripled checked with him :o)

He's not much of an apes fan he's a bit younger than me and grewup with Star Wars and he doesn't have the internet, so he asked me,

"Alex is Mark Wahlberg in the movie? Because that's what they said on the radio". "Planet of the Apes Scenes and interview with Mark Wahlberg".

 

And for those who have cable, also check out E! channel because when ever an exclusive such as this hits the media, you can bet the E! Cahnnel and Entertainment Tonight will be right there with it!

Happens all the time!

 

I just hope it's so! 

 

Best,

 

Alex

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I respect Zanuck. He's produced good movies and has a good instinct.
Literally, if he hadn't gotten behind the original "Apes" no one else
would've. But why did he have to say those things, even if it's true? But he
obviously didn't even get what the original was saying so hopefully there'll
be stuff in the new one that goes over his head, too.

Or maybe he said that just to entice the kiddies, that they won't have to
think too hard. We won't know 'til the movie.

--- - - J.K.

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Essence and Ape


> In a message dated 2/11/01 8:14:54 PM Central Standard Time,
> williejoe@... writes:
>
> << Zanuck. Leave the moviemaking to someone with a soul. >>
>
> I'm with you on that one Jeff!
> I'm glad he actually made the original.
> Somebody had to. But I always felt Dr. Sardonicus was more interested in
> making money instead of making movies.
>
>
>
>
>

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Probably not "Entertainment Tonight" because they are "Acces Hollywood"'s competition. Everybody is owned. News Corp. owns Fox, they own "Access Hollywood", they own TV Guide so that will probably have it on the cover eventually. Whatever News Corp. owns they'll have the exclusives. - - - J. K.

 

 

Well that's good news because Access Hollywood and Entertainment Tonight are shown here at the same time!

AHHHH!!

 

I just saw a t.v. spot on an Access Hollywood preview, no apes, but on the other hand they never show "first look" on their t.v. previews. They always leave those for the show itself.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:36 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] HUGE EXCLUSIVE!!!

Probably not "Entertainment Tonight" because they are "Acces Hollywood"'s competition. Everybody is owned. News Corp. owns Fox, they own "Access Hollywood", they own TV Guide so that will probably have it on the cover eventually. Whatever News Corp. owns they'll have the exclusives. - - - J. K.

 

 

Well that's good news because Access Hollywood and Entertainment Tonight are shown here at the same time!

AHHHH!!

 

I just saw a t.v. spot on an Access Hollywood preview, no apes, but on the other hand they never show "first look" on their t.v. previews. They always leave those for the show itself.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 2:51 PM

Subject: [pota] Access Hollywood

Sence you guys on the Wast Cost are 3 hours behind us on the East Cost, no doubt we'lll be seeing it before you.

So I'll let you all know if it's true or not.

 

I'll keep you all posted.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Alex- - -

 

  Did your friend say it was a promo for "AH" or a news item. It doesn't make sense they would promote it on the radio and not TV.

 

 

Well, I've never seen "first look" on any t.v. AH preview. And I've seen many when previews were shown on the same day as "first look" Gladiator and so on...

 

But I would think that on the radio you can say it, but on television you would have to show it if previewed. I can't say for sure but we'll soon find out.

I just hope he's not pulling my leg on this, he knows I'm a big fan so we'll see.

 

I'll keep you posted. AH begins in 1 hour from now.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Never mind. I just checked the "Access Hollywood" website. It's true! It also has a function to see when it's playing in your area (under "When to Watch").  - - - J.K.

 

 

HEEEEEE!!!!! HAAAAAAAA!!!!

Yeah Baby!!

 

Sorry for all the posting in last hour guys, but I think it was worth it!

 

Best all!

 

Alex

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Quick question; Can someone tell me which TV episodes were novelised in
George Alec Effinger's fourth paperback, "Lord of the Apes"?

Thanks,

Alan

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"Do The Right Thing" has a scene where Danny Aiello is talking to John
Turturro about the neighborhood. Turturro says that it is becoming "Planet of
the Apes" "Free Enterprise" has several POTA references. The two I remember
are when one of the characters is talking about his Japanese POTA Laser discs
& the debate about who is the sexiest woman in sci-fi, with the lead
character declaring it to be Nova. The other films, I'm not to sure about.
Hope this is useful. John

Damn that was quick.

Thanks!

Alan

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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:23:03 -0000 "Alan Maxwell"
<alan@...> writes:

> I also see that one of their forthcoming releases is a 70s sci-fi
> double-header. We can but hope...

Where did you read this? I couldn't find it on the site?

> (Actually there's a few old sci-fi films of that period that could
> do with a release, not just Apes films, so I'm really looking forward

to

> finding out what it is)

Which ones would you like to see released?


Chris L.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Ruiz [prophecysite@...]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:40 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] No Apes on Access Hollywood

http://accesshollywood.nbci.com/LMOID/resource/0,566,-1106,00.htmltag=in.ah.fd.air.p2&

 

Although confimed by Access Hollywood: Nothing was shown tonight.

But sence the the story was clearly done by Access as advertised, no doubt it will be released soon on the show. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

Best,

 

Alex :-(

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I think next Monday Feb. 19th is the best bet.

"Colossus: The Forbin Project" starring this guy named Eric Braeden has a
score I'd love to hear put on CD.

Did anyone here get the CD of "The Omega Man"? It was strange at first but
now I love that score. Never paid much attention to it in the film before.

I'll bet as the new APES film gets closer, there will be an offical release
of the scores to ESCAPE, CONQUEST and BATTLE.

--Rory

Is this for real? Boulle masterminded the "Apes" merchandising? What a load
of crap!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ballard" <dballard@...>
To: <pota@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:08 AM
Subject: [pota] Of interest?


> This may be old news but some collectors among you might like to take a
look.
>
> http://www.zaius.com/dept/apecity/ape.doll/index.htm
>
>
>
>

Got the Omega Man CD from www.filmscoremonthly.com. Definitely a great score
by the late great Ron Grainer (The Prisoner). NOW WHEN WILL THE DAMN MOVIE
COME OUT ON DVD??????

pasta
-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... <Haristas@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, February 12, 2001 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Goldsmith on CD

>"Colossus: The Forbin Project" starring this guy named Eric Braeden has a
>score I'd love to hear put on CD.
>
>Did anyone here get the CD of "The Omega Man"? It was strange at first but
>now I love that score. Never paid much attention to it in the film before.
>
>I'll bet as the new APES film gets closer, there will be an offical release
>of the scores to ESCAPE, CONQUEST and BATTLE.
>
>--Rory
>
>
>
>

The Vanity Fair layout looks great. Thade looks to be a great villian.
The mouth work is amazing. And Kris K is Daena's father? I wonder if that
will make Linda H. her mother? One can only hope.....John

I just got to the postings about Access Hollywood. They re-run it, I
believe, the next day here in NY at 12:30 pm on channel 4(NBC). I may have to
quit my job to keep up with this stuff! (If only!)

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>I think next Monday Feb. 19th is the best bet.

 

It might but I would keep an eye out for all episodes this week and monday. Because if Access Hollywood posted it on the site for this monday, no doubt they didn't because they don't have the trialer yet, thinking they would in time.

 

So now you have an apes "first look" that is over due, and therefore you now have an episode that could appear at any moment without notice.

 

So keep your eyes open.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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.htmlDAMN GOOD QUESTION!!!  It keeps getting pushed back.  Oh well, I'll just
watch my laserdisc of it.  Those 12" dinosaurs are still good for something.

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In a message dated 2/12/01 3:08:43 PM Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

<< Gotta say I'm getting tired of calling you Lord!!! :-) >>

Call me T

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In a message dated 2/12/01 4:28:31 PM Central Standard Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< Or maybe he said that just to entice the kiddies, that they won't have to
think too hard. We won't know 'til the movie. >>

I hope so! I'd hate to think the producer is saying this is a mindless movie.
I like a little think with my entertainment, as long as they don't beat me
over the head with their message. That's what I liked about the original.
They had something for everyone. That's what made them so popular!

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