I'd have to see them first.

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would this interest anyone if I purchased these ?

or you have the chance to purchase them direct instead if you have the money handy!

 

 

I would but it's a very high price.

But if I did have the money I would post them all on the site for all to enjoy.

 

Well, you know me Terry. :o)

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Hello Jack

That was me who saw the resemblance and I agree there is the possibility
that someone else responsible for the costumes read these comics.

I also wrote to ask if anyone had more info about possible
unpublished/unillustrated stories that never saw the light of day due to the
mag being canned.

The final Curtis issue, #29, Future Chronicles V finishes with what looks
like a football stadium so I doubt very much it was planned to finish there.
I would really love some answers - maybe the 60 page article will provide
some...?

Battle wrapped up in issue #28 so that was the end of the movie adaptations.
But there was a Terror chapter in the same issue which again gave no
indication of closure and suggested there was more to come (Terror was by
now illustrated by Herb Trimpe).

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
Sent: Monday, 12 February 2001 17:08
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] "Apes" comic book fans need only apply

Head's up! Another "Apes" related article to watch out for. The magazine
"Comics Journal" had an epic 60 pg. interview with Tom Sutton. Remember in
Marvel's "Apes" magazine the feature called "Future History Chronicles". Tom
Sutton drew those, He also drew the mag's flagship series "Terror on the
POTA" in issues 19, 20 & 23. I didn't even know about the magazines as a
kid, but as an adult I wondered, "Who is this maniac who draws such lavish
comic books?" I know alot of people have a soft spot for Mike Ploog, but Tom
Sutton is my favorite "Apes" illustrator, and "Chronicles" is my favorite
"Apes" comic (along with another unique one, Adventure's "Urchak's Folly".
"Chronicles" got in alot of trouble with fans because it's so out there,
taking place in a world of city-ships. Someone here said it looks alot like
what we've seen of Burton's movie and I see a resemblance. Burton has said
he was never much of a comics reader, but perhaps he used to read Marvel's
magazine, which isn't really a comic book, it's a "monster magazine" (Burton
has said "Apes" was an influence on him). Perhaps Sutton's work stuck in his
blender of a brain. Sutton also used to do alot of gothic horror comics and,
of course, gothic horror is a mainstay of Burton's work.

The article only devotes about 2 pages to Sutton's "Apes" work but
highlights it as one of his best. It seemed unique because it was unique.
Sutton and writer Doug Moench really went all out on it. Explains Sutton:
"Doug had figured this whole goddamn thing out - everything! It was like he
was writing a novel or something. And he was not very happy when they
decided, after three, four, five issues, whatever there were , that they
just aborted the thing." (Sutton says they had planned 8 parts; only 5 were
published). As for himself, " I didn't have to deal with costumed
superheroes and I didn't have to deal with a lot of other things I didn't
like. These (characters) I really did like. They were relevant. They were
almost different folks getting together, trying to get along within a highly
confined situation like a city."
He says he went way beyond the monetary considerations because "I think I
would have done almost anything. I wanted that book to work.There are things
that you want to work, for your own reasons , whatever they are...I would
make enormous drawings. These things were twice the size, easily twice the
size. And I'd make these very, very tight drawings, which I hardly ever
did".

"Future History Chronicles" appear in Marvel # 12, 15, 17 , 24 & 29. The
interview is in "Comics Journal" #230 (Feb. 2001); Two covers are available,
both by Sutton.

- - - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 7:03 PM
Subject: [pota] Toy Fair


> Jeff Krueger sez:
>
> 2. Today is the start of "Toy Fair" in New York (through Thusday). What
> does that mean to you? Well, you'll finally get to see the hot new "Harry
> Potter" and "Josey and the Pussycats" collectibles you've been waiting
for.
> Oh, and also the ones for that "Ape" thing, what's it called? For those
who
> want to keep tabs on the event, I'd recommend www.tomart.com or some like
> toy web site. Theyusually have good pics the dayafter a particular event
> (they unveil certain lines on certain days.
>
> 3. Someone brought up "Phantom Menace" and how "Star Wars" fans were left
in
> the lurch (not unlike "Addams Family" fans) in favor of the kiddies. IN an
> article in last Friday's "Hollywood Reorter" a Fox rep said they are
> planning a "dual-prong" approach with "Apes", hoping to satisfy both kids
> and adult collectors. Burton also said he wanted to respect the original,
> unlike certain PRODUCERS (see Comment #1 below).
>
> 4. Topps is doing the "Apes" cards so I guess we can kiss off that 2nd set
> of Inkworks collectors cards. I'm dissappointed that Fox seems to be going
> for the biggest companies instead of (in my opinion) the best : Hasbro
over
> McFarland (McFarland himself is an acknowledged "Apes" fan and has done
well
> with recent Burton properties); Topps over Inkworks (who earned the right
> with that previous set, when noone else wanted to do "Apes").
>
> 5. It's been reported that Fox has spent around $140 million to upgrade
it's
>
> 6. Bill Blake says his former partner Paula Crist sneaked over to Malibu
> Canyon and took part of the Icarus (I think the door) late at night when
it
> was being used for a TV show or something.
>
> 7. Let us not forget that during the entire run of the original "Apes"
films
> in theatres, there was no merchandise lines, just a set of trading cards
and
> a "Beneath" comic.
>
> 8. Questionaire? Who wants to know?
>
> 9. 'Lost Episodes": There are four unfilmed scripts for the TV show making
> the rounds but there are no filmed episodes that were never broadcast.
>
> 10. Power Records: On the "Ape Has Killed Ape" CD "Mattricide", Matt uses
> Power Record samples, including a chant of "Ursus, lead us, Ursus lead us.
.
> . " and end of the records repeatedly ("At the tone, please turn the
record
> over...ding!"). Matt likes to play on these 70's childhood trappings. He
did
> a song called "Kung-Fu Grip" . At the concerts, he put xeroxed pages from
> the "Apes" coloring books on the tables (with crayons). Can you imagine?
> While the band played, people actually doodled on these , drank beer,
> cheered. Quite a show.
>
> - - - - Jeff
> Krueger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:16 PM
> Subject: [pota] Essence and Ape
>
>
> > Jeff Krueger sez:
> >
> > 1. I'm surprised no one commented on the "Vanity Fair" pics. I found
the
> > mag (March 2001) on Feb. 8 and there they were. Good pictures. What I
> found
> > interesting was how much they look like the original costumes. The
> gorillas
> > have sleeveless vests, the chimps have the knitted material underneath,
> but
> > it all looks dark and Burtoney. Cute to see Burton with his dog Poppy
> (star
> > of "Mars Attacks"). Also, it was funny to see that babe Estelle Warren
all
> > by her lonesome while Wahlberg was making time with the chimp.
> > Not so amusing were Zanuck's quotes: " We don't have any lofty
> > philosophical questions to answerwith this picture. It's today's
> filmmaking
> > approach. The equipment is better, every thing is better and bigger and
> > costlier". That's a perfect summation of why movies suck now and Zanuck
is
> > wearing it like a badge of honor. I was really pissed off when I heard
> that.
> > But, even though this seems to be an exclusive, the caption writer got
in
> a
> > nice jab, comparing the original to the classic "Grand Illusion" and the
> new
> > one (as described by Zanuck) to "Armageddon" ("Armageddumb"). I'll
> continue
> > to look forward to the movie. Burton puts too much of himself into his
> > movies to make a brain dead "Armageddon". If it's as Zanuck says then I
> > won't support it. But what really bothered me was that Zanuck seemed to
> > knocking the original because it was thoughtful. Well, LIVE with it,
> Zanuck.
> > If you just want to do a big action picture than remake something ELSE!
If
> > you sift out the social conerns because the youngin' s find thinking to
be
> a
> > downer, you're going to get nailed. You'll make your fuckin' bucks but
> > you'll also disappoint. I at least trust Burton to understand what made
> that
> > series memorable long after special effects and budgets outdid it. In
the
> > "Apes" documentary Zanuck also seemed to be clueless about the social
> > commentary in the original, so what, me worry? Just keep track of the
> > budget, Zanuck. Leave the moviemaking to someone with a soul.
> >
> > 2. Screw it, now I'm pissed. I'll get back to you guys.
> >
> > - - - - Jeff
> Krueger
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:59 AM
> > Subject: RE: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
> >
> >
> > > I think that's the Aussie release date - now I'm saving up to come see
> the
> > > opening in the US then off to Memphis. I'll be driving in a 65
Pontiac
> > > Grand Prix (with some rust damage from driving thousands of miles
> through
> > > the ocean) and sleeping on the back seat in my official Planet of the
> Apes
> > > bean bag. I may knock on you door so stock up the fridge. You coming
> > Ken?
> > > I know you have a sleeping bag too......
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dave Ballard [dballard@...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 22:53
> > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
> > >
> > > I would imagine that a high profile movie such as this will see an
> > > "official" release of the script for sale. Do any of you guys
> > > have/remember the "T2" script with all those hundreds of small
> > > scene-by-scene pix?
> > >
> > > I wonder if there will be a novelization?
> > >
> > > Wouldn't it be great if they open the movie with the message
> > > "Dedicated to Arthur and Roddy" More likely it'll be dedicated to
> > > Burton's Chi-wa-wa though (yeah I know that's spelt wrong)
> > >
> > > I see on the Fox site August 9th is now the official release (cue
> > > Alex slapping his forehead!) Last I read the UK won't see it till
> > > Sept, so c'mon guys... no letting the "Shock ending" out of the bag.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

By the way,

The 3 7" 33 1/3 RPM Little LP Records were entitled:

Mountain of the Delphi;
Battle of Two World;
And Dawn of the Tree People.

The one that was only available on the 12" was "Volcano".

The artwork on the 7" records FAR surpassed that on the larger LPs and the
"talking books"!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty [whitty@...]
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:39
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [pota] POTA books and records!

Hi Loc

I had these as a kid - they were available in most record stores. I
recently upgraded and bought a sealed set. They are not a particularly rare
item, but are official Planet of the Apes merchandise and therefore must be
had! You are right, a Conquest version was never made. A sealed set is a
lot harder to find but not much fun to examine (I still have the original
ones though thank goodness).

You will find a lot of the story content has been missed/modified in
comparison to the original movies. The audience is children and that is why
(and probably explains the absence of the Conquest version- too violent).

Same company made 3 "singles" containing stories from the TV Series and an
LP album containing these stories - but no graphic accompaniment.

There was also an LP album which compiled the 4 Movie adaptations (again
with no accompanying graphic books) - possibly another explanation as to why
no Conquest.

I would love to talk to an old exec from Power Records to get some answers
to these questions - anyone know where to start?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: locutusatwolf359@... [locutusatwolf359@...]
Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:17
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!

Hey gang! I just got back from visiting family in Missouri and went to an
antique store there. I found 4 POTA books and record sets, one for each
movie
but they didn't have a Conquest set and I don't think one was made. The
records aren't scratched and are like new but the books have some wear on
the
covers but still look great. The inside pages are like new also. I paid $10
each for them. Does anyone know anything about these? They are like comic
books and I believe published by marvel. I remember having a few books like
these when I was a kid but I never had the POTA ones. (I had Spider-man,
Dracula, and Frankenstein I believe.) I would like to burn the records onto
a
couple cd's but I need a record player and something to connect it to my
computer. I'd like to know if I got a good deal or not and how much they are
worth. Thanks!

Loc

P.S. At the same antique store's booth they had a POTA coloring book for
$15.
I didn't get it since I didn't have enough money.

I learned a long time ago never to bid on photos sight unseen.
What some people consider rare, I may have more than one of.

What's on the cover of the March Vanity Fair?
All I can find a February with Brad Pitt on it.
That's not the one with the Ape article is it?

The March "Vanity Fair" has what's her name from "Hannibal". It's not in a
bag like the Feb. one.

- - - J.K.

----- Original Message -----
From: <LordTZer0@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] New Apes Pics


>
> What's on the cover of the March Vanity Fair?
> All I can find a February with Brad Pitt on it.
> That's not the one with the Ape article is it?
>
>
>
>
>

Michael - -

The interview with Tom Sutton doesn't say what happened to any unused
stories but it says they planned 8 parts for "Future History Chronicles". In
one of the final editorials for the mag they talked about how "Terror" and
"Chronicles" were going to develop so I guess the cancellation was
- - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:23 AM
Subject: [pota] "Apes" comic books - closure.


> Hello Jack
>
> That was me who saw the resemblance and I agree there is the possibility
> that someone else responsible for the costumes read these comics.
>
> I also wrote to ask if anyone had more info about possible
> unpublished/unillustrated stories that never saw the light of day due to
the
> mag being canned.
>
> The final Curtis issue, #29, Future Chronicles V finishes with what looks
> like a football stadium so I doubt very much it was planned to finish
there.
> I would really love some answers - maybe the 60 page article will provide
> some...?
>
> Battle wrapped up in issue #28 so that was the end of the movie
adaptations.
> But there was a Terror chapter in the same issue which again gave no
> indication of closure and suggested there was more to come (Terror was by
> now illustrated by Herb Trimpe).
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Krueger [williejoe@...]
> Sent: Monday, 12 February 2001 17:08
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] "Apes" comic book fans need only apply
>
> Head's up! Another "Apes" related article to watch out for. The magazine
> "Comics Journal" had an epic 60 pg. interview with Tom Sutton. Remember in
> Marvel's "Apes" magazine the feature called "Future History Chronicles".
Tom
> Sutton drew those, He also drew the mag's flagship series "Terror on the
> POTA" in issues 19, 20 & 23. I didn't even know about the magazines as a
> kid, but as an adult I wondered, "Who is this maniac who draws such lavish
> comic books?" I know alot of people have a soft spot for Mike Ploog, but
Tom
> Sutton is my favorite "Apes" illustrator, and "Chronicles" is my favorite
> "Apes" comic (along with another unique one, Adventure's "Urchak's Folly".
> "Chronicles" got in alot of trouble with fans because it's so out there,
> taking place in a world of city-ships. Someone here said it looks alot
like
> what we've seen of Burton's movie and I see a resemblance. Burton has said
> he was never much of a comics reader, but perhaps he used to read Marvel's
> magazine, which isn't really a comic book, it's a "monster magazine"
(Burton
> has said "Apes" was an influence on him). Perhaps Sutton's work stuck in
his
> blender of a brain. Sutton also used to do alot of gothic horror comics
and,
> of course, gothic horror is a mainstay of Burton's work.
>
> The article only devotes about 2 pages to Sutton's "Apes" work but
> highlights it as one of his best. It seemed unique because it was unique.
> Sutton and writer Doug Moench really went all out on it. Explains Sutton:
> "Doug had figured this whole goddamn thing out - everything! It was like
he
> was writing a novel or something. And he was not very happy when they
> decided, after three, four, five issues, whatever there were , that they
> just aborted the thing." (Sutton says they had planned 8 parts; only 5
were
> published). As for himself, " I didn't have to deal with costumed
> superheroes and I didn't have to deal with a lot of other things I didn't
> like. These (characters) I really did like. They were relevant. They were
> almost different folks getting together, trying to get along within a
highly
> confined situation like a city."
> He says he went way beyond the monetary considerations because "I think
I
> would have done almost anything. I wanted that book to work.There are
things
> that you want to work, for your own reasons , whatever they are...I would
> make enormous drawings. These things were twice the size, easily twice the
> size. And I'd make these very, very tight drawings, which I hardly ever
> did".
>
> "Future History Chronicles" appear in Marvel # 12, 15, 17 , 24 & 29. The
> interview is in "Comics Journal" #230 (Feb. 2001); Two covers are
available,
> both by Sutton.
>
> - - - - Jeff Krueger
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 7:03 PM
> Subject: [pota] Toy Fair
>
>
> > Jeff Krueger sez:
> >
> > 2. Today is the start of "Toy Fair" in New York (through Thusday).
What
> > does that mean to you? Well, you'll finally get to see the hot new
"Harry
> > Potter" and "Josey and the Pussycats" collectibles you've been waiting
> for.
> > Oh, and also the ones for that "Ape" thing, what's it called? For those
> who
> > want to keep tabs on the event, I'd recommend www.tomart.com or some
like
> > toy web site. Theyusually have good pics the dayafter a particular event
> > (they unveil certain lines on certain days.
> >
> > 3. Someone brought up "Phantom Menace" and how "Star Wars" fans were
left
> in
> > the lurch (not unlike "Addams Family" fans) in favor of the kiddies. IN
an
> > article in last Friday's "Hollywood Reorter" a Fox rep said they are
> > planning a "dual-prong" approach with "Apes", hoping to satisfy both
kids
> > and adult collectors. Burton also said he wanted to respect the
original,
> > unlike certain PRODUCERS (see Comment #1 below).
> >
> > 4. Topps is doing the "Apes" cards so I guess we can kiss off that 2nd
set
> > of Inkworks collectors cards. I'm dissappointed that Fox seems to be
going
> > for the biggest companies instead of (in my opinion) the best : Hasbro
> over
> > McFarland (McFarland himself is an acknowledged "Apes" fan and has done
> well
> > with recent Burton properties); Topps over Inkworks (who earned the
right
> > with that previous set, when noone else wanted to do "Apes").
> >
> > 5. It's been reported that Fox has spent around $140 million to upgrade
> it's
> >
> > 6. Bill Blake says his former partner Paula Crist sneaked over to Malibu
> > Canyon and took part of the Icarus (I think the door) late at night when
> it
> > was being used for a TV show or something.
> >
> > 7. Let us not forget that during the entire run of the original "Apes"
> films
> > in theatres, there was no merchandise lines, just a set of trading cards
> and
> > a "Beneath" comic.
> >
> > 8. Questionaire? Who wants to know?
> >
> > 9. 'Lost Episodes": There are four unfilmed scripts for the TV show
making
> > the rounds but there are no filmed episodes that were never broadcast.
> >
> > 10. Power Records: On the "Ape Has Killed Ape" CD "Mattricide", Matt
uses
> > Power Record samples, including a chant of "Ursus, lead us, Ursus lead
us.
> .
> > . " and end of the records repeatedly ("At the tone, please turn the
> record
> > over...ding!"). Matt likes to play on these 70's childhood trappings. He
> did
> > a song called "Kung-Fu Grip" . At the concerts, he put xeroxed pages
from
> > the "Apes" coloring books on the tables (with crayons). Can you imagine?
> > While the band played, people actually doodled on these , drank beer,
> > cheered. Quite a show.
> >
> > - - - - Jeff
> > Krueger
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
> > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 6:16 PM
> > Subject: [pota] Essence and Ape
> >
> >
> > > Jeff Krueger sez:
> > >
> > > 1. I'm surprised no one commented on the "Vanity Fair" pics. I found
> the
> > > mag (March 2001) on Feb. 8 and there they were. Good pictures. What I
> > found
> > > interesting was how much they look like the original costumes. The
> > gorillas
> > > have sleeveless vests, the chimps have the knitted material
underneath,
> > but
> > > it all looks dark and Burtoney. Cute to see Burton with his dog Poppy
> > (star
> > > of "Mars Attacks"). Also, it was funny to see that babe Estelle Warren
> all
> > > by her lonesome while Wahlberg was making time with the chimp.
> > > Not so amusing were Zanuck's quotes: " We don't have any lofty
> > > philosophical questions to answerwith this picture. It's today's
> > filmmaking
> > > approach. The equipment is better, every thing is better and bigger
and
> > > costlier". That's a perfect summation of why movies suck now and
Zanuck
> is
> > > wearing it like a badge of honor. I was really pissed off when I heard
> > that.
> > > But, even though this seems to be an exclusive, the caption writer got
> in
> > a
> > > nice jab, comparing the original to the classic "Grand Illusion" and
the
> > new
> > > one (as described by Zanuck) to "Armageddon" ("Armageddumb"). I'll
> > continue
> > > to look forward to the movie. Burton puts too much of himself into his
> > > movies to make a brain dead "Armageddon". If it's as Zanuck says then
I
> > > won't support it. But what really bothered me was that Zanuck seemed
to
> > > knocking the original because it was thoughtful. Well, LIVE with it,
> > Zanuck.
> > > If you just want to do a big action picture than remake something
ELSE!
> If
> > > you sift out the social conerns because the youngin' s find thinking
to
> be
> > a
> > > downer, you're going to get nailed. You'll make your fuckin' bucks but
> > > you'll also disappoint. I at least trust Burton to understand what
made
> > that
> > > series memorable long after special effects and budgets outdid it. In
> the
> > > "Apes" documentary Zanuck also seemed to be clueless about the social
> > > commentary in the original, so what, me worry? Just keep track of the
> > > budget, Zanuck. Leave the moviemaking to someone with a soul.
> > >
> > > 2. Screw it, now I'm pissed. I'll get back to you guys.
> > >
> > > - - - - Jeff
> > Krueger
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
> > > To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:59 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think that's the Aussie release date - now I'm saving up to come
see
> > the
> > > > opening in the US then off to Memphis. I'll be driving in a 65
> Pontiac
> > > > Grand Prix (with some rust damage from driving thousands of miles
> > through
> > > > the ocean) and sleeping on the back seat in my official Planet of
the
> > Apes
> > > > bean bag. I may knock on you door so stock up the fridge. You
coming
> > > Ken?
> > > > I know you have a sleeping bag too......
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dave Ballard [dballard@...]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, 11 February 2001 22:53
> > > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [pota] New APES script and bits & bobs
> > > >
> > > > I would imagine that a high profile movie such as this will see an
> > > > "official" release of the script for sale. Do any of you guys
> > > > have/remember the "T2" script with all those hundreds of small
> > > > scene-by-scene pix?
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if there will be a novelization?
> > > >
> > > > Wouldn't it be great if they open the movie with the message
> > > > "Dedicated to Arthur and Roddy" More likely it'll be dedicated to
> > > > Burton's Chi-wa-wa though (yeah I know that's spelt wrong)
> > > >
> > > > I see on the Fox site August 9th is now the official release (cue
> > > > Alex slapping his forehead!) Last I read the UK won't see it till
> > > > Sept, so c'mon guys... no letting the "Shock ending" out of the bag.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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Movieheadlines.net says that "Apes" is the hit of Toy Fair, so that bodes
well that stores will be stocked. They also have an interview with Michael
Clarke Duncan and a heads up from Alex about the trailer.

- - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:29 AM
Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!


> By the way,
>
> The 3 7" 33 1/3 RPM Little LP Records were entitled:
>
> Mountain of the Delphi;
> Battle of Two World;
> And Dawn of the Tree People.
>
> The one that was only available on the 12" was "Volcano".
>
> The artwork on the 7" records FAR surpassed that on the larger LPs and the
> "talking books"!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Whitty [whitty@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:39
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [pota] POTA books and records!
>
> Hi Loc
>
> I had these as a kid - they were available in most record stores. I
> recently upgraded and bought a sealed set. They are not a particularly
rare
> item, but are official Planet of the Apes merchandise and therefore must
be
> had! You are right, a Conquest version was never made. A sealed set is a
> lot harder to find but not much fun to examine (I still have the original
> ones though thank goodness).
>
> You will find a lot of the story content has been missed/modified in
> comparison to the original movies. The audience is children and that is
why
> (and probably explains the absence of the Conquest version- too violent).
>
> Same company made 3 "singles" containing stories from the TV Series and an
> LP album containing these stories - but no graphic accompaniment.
>
> There was also an LP album which compiled the 4 Movie adaptations (again
> with no accompanying graphic books) - possibly another explanation as to
why
> no Conquest.
>
> I would love to talk to an old exec from Power Records to get some answers
> to these questions - anyone know where to start?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: locutusatwolf359@... [locutusatwolf359@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:17
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!
>
> Hey gang! I just got back from visiting family in Missouri and went to an
> antique store there. I found 4 POTA books and record sets, one for each
> movie
> but they didn't have a Conquest set and I don't think one was made. The
> records aren't scratched and are like new but the books have some wear on
> the
> covers but still look great. The inside pages are like new also. I paid
$10
> each for them. Does anyone know anything about these? They are like comic
> books and I believe published by marvel. I remember having a few books
like
> these when I was a kid but I never had the POTA ones. (I had Spider-man,
> Dracula, and Frankenstein I believe.) I would like to burn the records
onto
> a
> couple cd's but I need a record player and something to connect it to my
> computer. I'd like to know if I got a good deal or not and how much they
are
> worth. Thanks!
>
> Loc
>
> P.S. At the same antique store's booth they had a POTA coloring book for
> $15.
> I didn't get it since I didn't have enough money.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Go to the ain't it cool website for two reports from "Toy Fair". I guess Fox
had a big presentation including a showing of the trailer and some dailies.
Mark Wahlberg and Rick Baker spoke, they had people dressed as apes, and
Baker did a makeup demo. The second witness is the best, recorded it very
professionally. For him, follow the link to his "home theatre " website. A
good report. I guess in the dailies there's even a moment where Walhberg
calls them "monkeys" and an ape is offended. The more things change, the
more they stay the same.

- - - Jeff
Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:29 AM
Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!


> By the way,
>
> The 3 7" 33 1/3 RPM Little LP Records were entitled:
>
> Mountain of the Delphi;
> Battle of Two World;
> And Dawn of the Tree People.
>
> The one that was only available on the 12" was "Volcano".
>
> The artwork on the 7" records FAR surpassed that on the larger LPs and the
> "talking books"!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Whitty [whitty@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:39
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [pota] POTA books and records!
>
> Hi Loc
>
> I had these as a kid - they were available in most record stores. I
> recently upgraded and bought a sealed set. They are not a particularly
rare
> item, but are official Planet of the Apes merchandise and therefore must
be
> had! You are right, a Conquest version was never made. A sealed set is a
> lot harder to find but not much fun to examine (I still have the original
> ones though thank goodness).
>
> You will find a lot of the story content has been missed/modified in
> comparison to the original movies. The audience is children and that is
why
> (and probably explains the absence of the Conquest version- too violent).
>
> Same company made 3 "singles" containing stories from the TV Series and an
> LP album containing these stories - but no graphic accompaniment.
>
> There was also an LP album which compiled the 4 Movie adaptations (again
> with no accompanying graphic books) - possibly another explanation as to
why
> no Conquest.
>
> I would love to talk to an old exec from Power Records to get some answers
> to these questions - anyone know where to start?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: locutusatwolf359@... [locutusatwolf359@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:17
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!
>
> Hey gang! I just got back from visiting family in Missouri and went to an
> antique store there. I found 4 POTA books and record sets, one for each
> movie
> but they didn't have a Conquest set and I don't think one was made. The
> records aren't scratched and are like new but the books have some wear on
> the
> covers but still look great. The inside pages are like new also. I paid
$10
> each for them. Does anyone know anything about these? They are like comic
> books and I believe published by marvel. I remember having a few books
like
> these when I was a kid but I never had the POTA ones. (I had Spider-man,
> Dracula, and Frankenstein I believe.) I would like to burn the records
onto
> a
> couple cd's but I need a record player and something to connect it to my
> computer. I'd like to know if I got a good deal or not and how much they
are
> worth. Thanks!
>
> Loc
>
> P.S. At the same antique store's booth they had a POTA coloring book for
> $15.
> I didn't get it since I didn't have enough money.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Once again, I'm most impressed with what McFarland is putting out this year.
Go to ationfigure.com to see the line for this year's "Movie Maniacs". I
couldn't make out all the movies they're doing but they'll have a couple of
"Terminator" figures. And check out the "Jaws" toy! It includes the boat and
Quint being eaten. Gotta get that! Ironically, Todd McFarlane is a big
"Apes" fan, but Fox gave the license to Hasbro.

- - - - Jeff Krueger

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:29 AM
Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!


> By the way,
>
> The 3 7" 33 1/3 RPM Little LP Records were entitled:
>
> Mountain of the Delphi;
> Battle of Two World;
> And Dawn of the Tree People.
>
> The one that was only available on the 12" was "Volcano".
>
> The artwork on the 7" records FAR surpassed that on the larger LPs and the
> "talking books"!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Whitty [whitty@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:39
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [pota] POTA books and records!
>
> Hi Loc
>
> I had these as a kid - they were available in most record stores. I
> recently upgraded and bought a sealed set. They are not a particularly
rare
> item, but are official Planet of the Apes merchandise and therefore must
be
> had! You are right, a Conquest version was never made. A sealed set is a
> lot harder to find but not much fun to examine (I still have the original
> ones though thank goodness).
>
> You will find a lot of the story content has been missed/modified in
> comparison to the original movies. The audience is children and that is
why
> (and probably explains the absence of the Conquest version- too violent).
>
> Same company made 3 "singles" containing stories from the TV Series and an
> LP album containing these stories - but no graphic accompaniment.
>
> There was also an LP album which compiled the 4 Movie adaptations (again
> with no accompanying graphic books) - possibly another explanation as to
why
> no Conquest.
>
> I would love to talk to an old exec from Power Records to get some answers
> to these questions - anyone know where to start?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: locutusatwolf359@... [locutusatwolf359@...]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:17
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!
>
> Hey gang! I just got back from visiting family in Missouri and went to an
> antique store there. I found 4 POTA books and record sets, one for each
> movie
> but they didn't have a Conquest set and I don't think one was made. The
> records aren't scratched and are like new but the books have some wear on
> the
> covers but still look great. The inside pages are like new also. I paid
$10
> each for them. Does anyone know anything about these? They are like comic
> books and I believe published by marvel. I remember having a few books
like
> these when I was a kid but I never had the POTA ones. (I had Spider-man,
> Dracula, and Frankenstein I believe.) I would like to burn the records
onto
> a
> couple cd's but I need a record player and something to connect it to my
> computer. I'd like to know if I got a good deal or not and how much they
are
> worth. Thanks!
>
> Loc
>
> P.S. At the same antique store's booth they had a POTA coloring book for
> $15.
> I didn't get it since I didn't have enough money.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

If you want to see the new McFarlanes, go to movieheadlines.net for the
link. I couldn't get in there through actionfigures.com.

Alex- - - Let us know if they show the trailer today on "Acces
Hollywood". Their website is playing dumb. It sounds great from the
descriptions I've heard today.

- - - J.K.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Krueger" <williejoe@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:06 AM
Subject: [pota] Toys!


> Once again, I'm most impressed with what McFarland is putting out this
year.
> Go to ationfigure.com to see the line for this year's "Movie Maniacs". I
> couldn't make out all the movies they're doing but they'll have a couple
of
> "Terminator" figures. And check out the "Jaws" toy! It includes the boat
and
> Quint being eaten. Gotta get that! Ironically, Todd McFarlane is a big
> "Apes" fan, but Fox gave the license to Hasbro.
>
> - - - - Jeff Krueger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:29 AM
> Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!
>
>
> > By the way,
> >
> > The 3 7" 33 1/3 RPM Little LP Records were entitled:
> >
> > Mountain of the Delphi;
> > Battle of Two World;
> > And Dawn of the Tree People.
> >
> > The one that was only available on the 12" was "Volcano".
> >
> > The artwork on the 7" records FAR surpassed that on the larger LPs and
the
> > "talking books"!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Whitty [whitty@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:39
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [pota] POTA books and records!
> >
> > Hi Loc
> >
> > I had these as a kid - they were available in most record stores. I
> > recently upgraded and bought a sealed set. They are not a particularly
> rare
> > item, but are official Planet of the Apes merchandise and therefore must
> be
> > had! You are right, a Conquest version was never made. A sealed set is
a
> > lot harder to find but not much fun to examine (I still have the
original
> > ones though thank goodness).
> >
> > You will find a lot of the story content has been missed/modified in
> > comparison to the original movies. The audience is children and that is
> why
> > (and probably explains the absence of the Conquest version- too
violent).
> >
> > Same company made 3 "singles" containing stories from the TV Series and
an
> > LP album containing these stories - but no graphic accompaniment.
> >
> > There was also an LP album which compiled the 4 Movie adaptations (again
> > with no accompanying graphic books) - possibly another explanation as to
> why
> > no Conquest.
> >
> > I would love to talk to an old exec from Power Records to get some
answers
> > to these questions - anyone know where to start?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: locutusatwolf359@... [locutusatwolf359@...]
> > Sent: Saturday, 10 February 2001 9:17
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] POTA books and records!
> >
> > Hey gang! I just got back from visiting family in Missouri and went to
an
> > antique store there. I found 4 POTA books and record sets, one for each
> > movie
> > but they didn't have a Conquest set and I don't think one was made. The
> > records aren't scratched and are like new but the books have some wear
on
> > the
> > covers but still look great. The inside pages are like new also. I paid
> $10
> > each for them. Does anyone know anything about these? They are like
comic
> > books and I believe published by marvel. I remember having a few books
> like
> > these when I was a kid but I never had the POTA ones. (I had Spider-man,
> > Dracula, and Frankenstein I believe.) I would like to burn the records
> onto
> > a
> > couple cd's but I need a record player and something to connect it to my
> > computer. I'd like to know if I got a good deal or not and how much they
> are
> > worth. Thanks!
> >
> > Loc
> >
> > P.S. At the same antique store's booth they had a POTA coloring book for
> > $15.
> > I didn't get it since I didn't have enough money.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>

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"Fox gave the license to Hasbro."   Gave?!!!   I don't think Fox gives
anything away.
                                                                             
   -- Rory<.html

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Alex- - -  Let us know if they show the trailer today on "Acces
Hollywood". Their website is playing dumb. It sounds great from the
descriptions I've heard today.

 

Will do Jeff, If I see it here on the east coast anytime this week, all here on the e-group will be the first to know. You can count on it.

 

Plus a full spread will be done on the site, wav files, pics, images, MP3 music tribute as I did with the original apes and of course the trailer.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:25 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Toys!

Alex- - -  Let us know if they show the trailer today on "Acces
Hollywood". Their website is playing dumb. It sounds great from the
descriptions I've heard today.

 

Will do Jeff, If I see it here on the east coast anytime this week, all here on the e-group will be the first to know. You can count on it.

 

Plus a full spread will be done on the site, wav files, pics, images, MP3 music tribute as I did with the original apes and of course the trailer.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Terry

 

If I had the money I would love them.

 

You should however be VERY careful.

 

eg when he mentions they would make good blow-ups what copyright are we talking?

 

Also you can bet some of them are rubbish and the set is NOT complete as he has sold 4.

 

Just be careful - it is a lot of money to be giving to a stranger no matter how convincing the samples are.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Hoknes [comicsape@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2001 15:37
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; apecollectibles@egroups.com
Subject: [pota] PLANET OF THE APES set photos

would this interest anyone if I purchased these ?

or you have the chance to purchase them direct instead if you have the money handy!

 

From: Philippe Spurrell

To: Terry Hoknes

Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:09 PM

Subject: PLANET OF THE APES set photos

Terry -

 

 

Hi! I was wondering if you or some other dealer you know would be interested in picking up an entire lot of original one-of-a-kind set photos from the set of BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES. These are actually original color slides taken by the set photographer at the time. He took a few hundred photos and 20th Century Fox only selected the ones they wanted. He kept the rest and ended up selling them to a memorabilia store in NY. They sat in the back room for years until the store owner contacted me and offered them as a lot of 250 slides. The colour and condition on these photos is near perfect. Actually, most are like new. They are absolutely one of a kind photos. No duplicates were made for any of these. There are no negatives for slides but they can be used to make beautiful blow ups. Most are behind the scenes and many are what would be called publicity shots. Several are variations on what ended up being the lobby card photos. There is even a photo of the girl who played Linda Harrison's double in the scene where James Fransiscus tries to drown her in a fountain. That is a photo you won't find anywhere. In fact many of these are of things never before seen and all of them are unpublished. I took a few of them to three trade shows last year and ended up selling 4 of them at no less than $25 each. I did not have them on display either. They were in a binder under my table and I only pulled them out if some collector asked for something unique from PLANET OF THE APES. I have never sold any of these on eBay nor have I ever seen these offered anywhere. My asking price for the entire lot of 250 is $2250.  I would rather sell these to a dealer as a lot only. Buying the entire lot means that there won't be other dealers out there selling these at competitive prices. I can send you a very convincing sample if you like. I already offered these to a guy at KLAATU COLLECTIBLES but my asking price was higher and he could not afford it at the time. With the upcoming release of Tim Burton's PLANET OF THE APES in July, 2001 is definitely going to be "The Year Of The Apes" which will translate into higher sales of apes related items I'm sure. Let me know soon if this interests you or anyone else you know. Cheers! 

 

Philippe Spurrell

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Krueger

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:45 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Toys!

Thanks, Alex.

 

  Meanwhile, go immediately to "ain't it cool" news.

 

                                               - - - Jeff K.

----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:25 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Toys!

Alex- - -  Let us know if they show the trailer today on "Acces
Hollywood". Their website is playing dumb. It sounds great from the
descriptions I've heard today.

 

Will do Jeff, If I see it here on the east coast anytime this week, all here on the e-group will be the first to know. You can count on it.

 

Plus a full spread will be done on the site, wav files, pics, images, MP3 music tribute as I did with the original apes and of course the trailer.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:41 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Toys!

Jeff --

"Fox gave the license to Hasbro."   Gave?!!!   I don't think Fox gives
anything away.
                                                                             
   -- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Jack Krueger

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:00 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] Toys!

"Gave" as in soaked them for all the money they could get. I think McFarland would make better toys but they don't have the machine-like efficiency of Hasbro. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:41 AM

Subject: Re: [pota] Toys!

Jeff --

"Fox gave the license to Hasbro."   Gave?!!!   I don't think Fox gives
anything away.
                                                                             
   -- Rory

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Julianne Moore.

.htmlJeff --

I don't mind that Topps got the cards.  They did the 44 card series for the
original back in '68, so it seems appropriate.

                                                                             
    -- Rory<.html

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 5:36 PM

Subject: [pota] VANITY FAIR

Question:

Is the Vanity Fair Issue with Apes out yet?

All I see is the Feb. issue with Keanu Reeves.

If not, when will it come out, and does anyone know what cover it will have?

Just making sure I don't miss it.

 

As Access Hollywood, nothing yet.

Although President's Day is just around the corner so we'll see what happens then.

 

Best,

 

Alex 

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  It came out on Feb. 8 around here. But I got it at a news stand, maybe they get stuff early. Julianne Moore from "Hannibal" is on the cover (and there's an article about people who are turned on by stuffed animals, appropriate, no? Maybe Wahlberg should read it).

 

You already saw tonight's "Access Hollywood?

 

 

Thanks Jeff.

Yeah I saw Hollywood Access Tonight, more "Oscar" hype than anything else. No Apes but from the description of that excellent APE gala event it seems as though this Access Hollywood "first look" was covering that event leading to the Trailer release. Because the description of this show on their web site said something about Wahlberg coming face to face with his double, or something like that.

No doubt they were talking about the TOY FAIR event with the release of the trailer for the first time and an appearance with Wahlberg.

 

So no doubt Access Hollywood has the report ready to air, but it seems that FOX is holding it a little while longer.

 

Bloody Bastards....

 

How much longer must we suffer?

FOX, it's the fans that are going to make this movie a HIT, and not your special invited guests!

 

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

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In a message dated 2/13/01 7:42:56 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< Is the Vanity Fair Issue with Apes out yet?
All I see is the Feb. issue with Keanu Reeves. >>

Yeah, it's not out yet here either.
If the February issue is still out I wouln't worry about missing it.
They hang around a while. Jeff says Anthony Hopkins is on the March cover.

Oh, Julianne Moore!....
I have to read more closly.
I thought it was Hannibal.
I was very tired.

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----- Original Message -----

From: Alexander Ruiz

To: pota@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:05 PM

Subject: Re: [pota] VANITY FAIR

  It came out on Feb. 8 around here. But I got it at a news stand, maybe they get stuff early. Julianne Moore from "Hannibal" is on the cover (and there's an article about people who are turned on by stuffed animals, appropriate, no? Maybe Wahlberg should read it).

 

You already saw tonight's "Access Hollywood?

 

 

Thanks Jeff.

Yeah I saw Hollywood Access Tonight, more "Oscar" hype than anything else. No Apes but from the description of that excellent APE gala event it seems as though this Access Hollywood "first look" was covering that event leading to the Trailer release. Because the description of this show on their web site said something about Wahlberg coming face to face with his double, or something like that.

No doubt they were talking about the TOY FAIR event with the release of the trailer for the first time and an appearance with Wahlberg.

 

So no doubt Access Hollywood has the report ready to air, but it seems that FOX is holding it a little while longer.

 

Bloody Bastards....

 

How much longer must we suffer?

FOX, it's the fans that are going to make this movie a HIT, and not your special invited guests!

 

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

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OK, thanks Alex - - -

 

  I assume his "double" is his stunt double so they probably filmed them on location. I have a feeling they are holding it until next week. "Monkeybone" opens the 23rd and they'll probably place it with that. That way A.H. can say it hits theatres "this Friday".

 

  Somewhere in the universe there has to be something better than "Apes"...

 

                                                      - - - Jeff

 

Perhaps your right. But I just find it odd that Double, Trailer and Wahlberg does also add up to TOY FAIR as well, but again you could be right. Just about everyone else has their Trailer out, hell even Lord of the Rings that is due in Christmas. And yet FOX keeps holding out, I just hope this doesn't create a back lash with fans if this continues any further.

 

That's why I say to FOX, screw the special guests and lets put the fans first for a change.

 

Best,

 

Alex 

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Right on, Alex. In a perfect world, Fox would realize it's the fans that
will make or break the flick. But the world ain't perfect, as we all know.
Anyhow, loved the stuff on Ain't It Cool. Liked hearing about the coming
marketing blitz. I know it's just corporate crap, but I like it for the
simple fact that it will get people talking about the flick, both the new one
and the "classics" as it were. I'm going to enjoy riding the wave. Rule The
Planet!!!!!! John

At least you can find it on the coasts.
Here in Dallas it's supposed to be on a new UHF station called KSTR at 7:30 &
12:30 pm and Saturdays at 5:00pm but I've checked all the listings and it's
not even there. Maybe someone can tape it and or trascribe it for those of
us out of the loop.

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     Right on, Alex. In a perfect world, Fox would realize it's the fans that
will make or break the flick. But the world ain't perfect, as we all know.
Anyhow, loved the stuff on  Ain't It Cool. Liked hearing about the coming
marketing blitz. I know it's just corporate crap, but I like it for the
simple fact that it will get people talking about the flick, both the new one
and the "classics" as it were. I'm going to enjoy riding the wave.  Rule The
Planet!!!!!!       John

 

 

For sure, believe me I'll be riding that wave with you as well. I really feel this movie is going to be very good. But when it comes to advertisment FOX better start getting this Ball Rollin because I get e-mail all time with people asking me. "There's going to be another Planet of the Apes movie?" Most people don't even have a clue about the remake.

 

And as Columbia did with Godzilla, not revealing the face of Godzilla until the release of the film. By the time the movie hit the theatres people finaly said:

"Screw Godzilla". And Godzilla didn't make the numbers that was expected. So things such as this does cause back lash.

 

So lets get this Ape ball rollin FOX dudes, and lets not create a Godzilla and the 21st Century!

 

Best,

 

Alex 

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At least you can find it on the coasts.
Here in Dallas it's supposed to be on a new UHF station called KSTR at 7:30 &
12:30 pm and Saturdays at 5:00pm but I've checked all the listings and it's
not even there.  Maybe someone can tape it and or trascribe it for those of
us out of the loop.

 

Well I think the best thing to do would be to make a full collection of reports until just after the release date. Place it all on one or two 2 hour VHS tapes. Then ship them out to those who ask. Because if not I or anyone else will be shipping out tape every week while exclusives are being aired. (if and when ever that happens)

 

But in the meantime I'll be posting them on real player or mpeg on the site.

 

That's the best I can do from this side of the ZONE.

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

 

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.htmlDear POTA group,

I know how eager everyone is to see this trailer, but really can we all just
play it cool?  All good things come to those who wait.  It'll be out soon, so
what if it's tomorrow or next week?  Eventually it'll be out.   Personally, I
want to wait until the previews before "Monkeybone."  It'll be on the big
screen and have big sound, and  I'll also be seeing it with an audience and
will be able to gauge the reaction.  I think it's bad luck to be too
expectant.  Hell, the next thing that'll happen is the trailer will be out,
and everyone will be bitchin' it wasn't good enough!  Humans!!!

                                                                             
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So, I ask again, when replying to posts here, *PLEASE* edit your
replies and don't just include the entire text of the message to which
you're replying. Some of you are replying to each other's replies so
that some messages end up in their entirety in the digest 4, 5, and
more times. When you read the digest, that makes the digest pretty
much unreadable.

Best thing: don't quote at all. If you, quote *part* of the original
message, don't just let your mailer append the original to your 2- or
3-line reply! Should I name names to let you know if you're one of
the culprits??

Hunter
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Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/
<goathunter@...> http://www.goatley.com/hunter/

In a message dated 2/13/01 9:15:52 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< Place it all on one or two 2 hour VHS tapes. >>

That's a good idea. I loved the bonus footage I got with the TV apeisodes I
got from Terry. I'm sure that with all these apeonauts ever scrap of ape
info could be gleaned from the airwaves. I'd buy that for a dollar! Or ten
. . . whatever it took.

<< And as Columbia did with Godzilla, not revealing the face of Godzilla
until the release of the film. By the time the movie hit the theatres people
finaly said:
"Screw Godzilla". And Godzilla didn't make the numbers that was expected.
So things such as this does cause back lash. >>

Yeah, I was all fired up for Godzilla, then I saw that lantern jawed lizard
they were calling Godzilla. My reaction? . . . Screw Godzilla! I did
however go see Godzilla 2000.

While it was no doubt the preexisting relationship--and what was
probably greater financial wherewithal--that got Hasbro the APES
license--

I can't help but think that Todd McFarland's plans, reported here
earlier, in the past twelve months by one of you kind folk, to do a TV
series about a MODERN DAY apes soceity--or, perhaps,"talking apes," here
on Earth--couldn't have helped him.

McFarland's company had/has a script in development, with one of the
"independent" television networks.

At the time of the project's announcement, Todd even made some
negative-sounding comments towards Fox, saying something along the lines
of Fox's not having a monopoly on talking apes, and that if they weren't
going to do something with their franchise, SOMEONE should do a similaly
themed concept...

Not that McFarland was necesarily, entirely, wrong, but the situation
couldn't have helped...

Best, Jim

No but you could stop nagging.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter Goatley [goathunter@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2001 16:27
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Again, *PLEASE* edit your replies!!!

Should I name names to let you know if you're one of
the culprits??

Hunter

In a message dated 2/13/01 1:04:12 PM Central Standard Time,
williejoe@... writes:

<< "Jaws" toy! It includes the boat and
Quint being eaten. Gotta get that! >>

Where! Where?
Muwahhahahaha...

Damnit! Damnit all to Heeeeeell!

Yet another Heston appearance on SNL and it's the POTA Banquet again.
Does anyone have the other one on tape? That ought to go on the archive tape.

In a message dated 2/14/01 1:14:49 AM Central Standard Time,
jameshburns@... writes:

<< SOMEONE should do a similaly themed concept... >>

I agree! When you look at the difference between the classic apes and the
new apes, there's a lot of room to play around with. You can't copyright the
idea of talking apes. If you could Lance Lot Link and Monkeyed Movies would
be in trouble, to say nothing of Time Of The Apes. That's like saying
Jurassic Park has the rights to all dinosaur movies!

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Dear POTA group,

I know how eager everyone is to see this trailer, but really can we all just
play it cool?  All good things come to those who wait.  It'll be out soon, so
what if it's tomorrow or next week?  Eventually it'll be out

 

 

I understand Rory believe me it's cool. It would just be cooler if there was at least an official web site to visit.

163 left and counting...

 

For a movie that hasn't been in the lime light in over 20 years?

They better do something BIG before release, I mean this isn't Spiderman where you can wait a month before release and still have a BIG hit. Spiderman is very well known, Planet of the Apes hasn't been visited in at least 2 generations.

 

I just hope their smart enough to know that.

 

Best,

 

Alex 

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I really don't think we have anything to worry about.
Fox is spending so much on this movie, and has the brand name
recognition, that I thoroughly expect that by late June/early
July we'll be up to our necks in 'Ape Shit.'  Everybody in the world
is going to know this movie is coming.  I can't wait, but in the
meantime I'm just going to enjoy the calm before the storm.

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I can't wait, but in the
meantime I'm just going to enjoy the calm before the storm.

--Rory

 

 

I want the storm before the HURRICANE :o)

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

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I want the storm before the HURRICANE :o)

 

Or better yet, I want the storm before the hurrican, the hurricane before the earthquake and the earthquake before the LIQUID MAG MA!

(dr. evil)

 

hehehe!!

 

Best,

 

Alex

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.htmlAlex --

No one else has mentioned this, but in one of the comments left
at Ain't-it-cool-News it was said that there was coverage of that
Toy Show on CNN's "Showbiz Today."  So, that means something
about APES was shown at 4:30 PM on Monday, AND WE MISSED IT!!

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I hate to say it, but to those who said we'd see a trailer by the Superbowl,
but it has been a couple months....and I told you so. How does it feel to be
shot down?


In a message dated 2/14/01 4:35:36 AM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<<
I know how eager everyone is to see this trailer, but really can we all
just
play it cool? All good things come to those who wait. It'll be out soon,
so
what if it's tomorrow or next week? Eventually it'll be out >>

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Toy Show on CNN's "Showbiz Today."  So, that means something
about APES was shown at 4:30 PM on Monday.

 

Indeed, thanks to CNN.

Need I say more?

 

Best,

 

Alex

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I hate to say it, but to those who said we'd see a trailer by the Superbowl,
but it has been a couple months....and I told you so.  How does it feel to be
shot down?

 

I guess I should have known better.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Chris L. wrote:

>> I also see that one of their forthcoming releases is a 70s sci-fi
>> double-header. We can but hope...
>
>Where did you read this? I couldn't find it on the site?

A couple of weeks ago they ran a feature announcing their Herrman release
and their plan to do two CDs a month. Here are the tantalising hints they
gave us for the next few month's releases:

"FSM Vol. 4, No. 1 - '70a sci-fi doubleheader.
FSM Vol. 4, No. 2 - a '50s Fox CinemaScope classic.
FSM Vol. 4, No. 4 - Mr. Waxman -- '50s -- a goodie.
FSM Vol. 4, No. 3 - a '70s smash. This will be a popular title... [No. 3 and
4 will be released in flip-flopped order for production reasons]
FSM Vol. 4, No. 5 - oh, this composer is seldom represented -- state secret!
FSM Vol. 4, No. 6 - a classic '50s title nobody ever thought they would
have."

Teasing! Damn them!

>
>> (Actually there's a few old sci-fi films of that period that could
>> do with a release, not just Apes films, so I'm really looking forward
>to
>> finding out what it is)
>
>Which ones would you like to see released?

"Silent Running" - music by Peter Schiekle or something like that, with a
couple of songs by Joan Baez (I'm a hippy at heart). Wonderful score, good
songs and further more has only ever been released on LP. I'm sure I
remember hearing one of the FSM guys (Jeff Bond, perhaps) saying he liked
it, so you never know.

"Soylent Green" - main title only. The majority of the film uses classical
music, so a soundtrack is a bit pointless (Morning? Pastoral symphony? Not
exactly rare). However, Fred Mirow (sp?) wrote a great main title for it,
which as far as I know has never been released anywhere. As well as being
great, it'd be a nice tribute since he died last year (or maybe the year
before?).

"Logan's Run" - another of Goldsmith's finest, a brilliant combination of
orchestra and electronics. Not as "out there" as Planet of the Apes, but
experimental nonetheless. Why I don't think it's likely: aside from it
possibly being a little too late to be included in "Silver Age Classics",
it's already been released on CD twice. Once was several years ago, long
deleted, and contained only the same tracks as the LP (which I own). The
other CD was last year, combined with his score from "Coma" and again only
had the same tracks as the LP. This may also have been a bootleg, I'm not
sure. Why it might happen: There's still a demand for the complete score,
and Goldsmith is still a big name in film music collecting circles.

"Damnation Alley" - a year later than Logan's Run and a not-so-popular film,
so not a likely candidate perhaps. One of those films that's so bad it's
good, but then Goldsmith has made a habit of writing great scores to poor
films. Logan's Run was like Jerry's sort of conservative effort at mixing
synths with orchestra - Damnation Alley is as if he said "well, that worked,
now I'm going to REALLY go to town on it!"

Now, on to the Ape scores.

"Escape" is an unlikely candidate for a full release (I stress this is just
my opinion and hopefully I'll be made to look a fool). It has already had
about quarter of an hour or so released officially, and numerous bootlegs
released of the rest of it - so a complete release is unlikely from my point
of view. However, there is that cult appeal of PotA and the fact that it's
Goldsmith, so you never know.

"Battle" - I would say this is definitely feasible. FSM's "Beneath" CD was
well-received, so why not the other Rosenman effort? They've also got a good
track record with Rosenman, having released his Fantastic Voyage too. Not to
mention the fact that I kissed ass so much after they released THe Omega Man
and Beneath the PotA that they'll maybe just release it to milk me for all
I'm worth.

"Conquest" - you never know. None of it has been released as yet. Cult PotA
appeal. Tom Scott has a following (accomplished jazz musician, I've got a
couple of his albums - at least I think it's the same guy). There's even the
Goldsmith factor (Scott based part of the score on Goldsmith's music for the
orignal film).

Perhaps Vol 4 could be a dream double release of Conquest and Battle. But
realistically I doubt it. We'll just need to wait and see.

Alan

John <JSe3689836@...> wrote:

> Right on, Alex. In a perfect world, Fox would realize it's the fans

that

>will make or break the flick.

I beg to differ - I don't mean to sound negative here, but in the grand
scheme of things, just how much will the fans matter to the success of this
film? Not enough to make or break, that's for sure. How many die-hard PotA
fans are there? Not enough to make a difference to a major studio flick.

Nope, it's not the fans who'll make or break this film - it's the ordinary
cinema-public public.

Alan

<< Nope, it's not the fans who'll make or break this film - it's the ordinary
cinema-public public. >>

I have to agree with you on that one. Judging by the conventions I've been
to POTA
Fans account for maybe ten percent of the Sci-fi film going public. Buckaroo
Banzai fans even less. They're all SW or ST fans. To support this film we'd
all have to watch it 10 times, if we like it. We can only help it with our
humble contributions.
Even it I really like it, I probably won't see it more than twice. Maybe
three times.
Face it! We are a minority in the Sci-fi genre. Hopfully this film will
help change that.

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I beg to differ - I don't mean to sound negative here, but in the grand
scheme of things, just how much will the fans matter to the success of this
film? Not enough to make or break, that's for sure. How many die-hard PotA
fans are there? Not enough to make a difference to a major studio flick.

Nope, it's not the fans who'll make or break this film - it's the ordinary
cinema-public public.

Alan

 

 

And what do you think one little apes fan can do to promote the movie?

Create a web site that can promote and inform millions about the film?

 

Do you have any idea how many hits my site gets a in a day?

I don't know, maybe it's just a streach.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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.htmlI certainly agree with comments here that it's going to take A LOT
more than just the patronage of old APES' fans to make the new
movie a hit.  Fox knows this, hence the whole 're-invention' thing
(which for this loyal fan of the original film has always meant just
'bastardization').  The new POTA film is going to have to appeal
mostly to the core movie-going public, which is teenagers and early-twenty
somethings.  They're the ones who, if they like the movie, will go see it
again and again.  That's why I fear we 'Classic
APES' fans may end up being ape-palled at the 'dumbing-down' of
the concept, which I fear is what has happened.

One aspect of the new movie that does intrigue me is that the apes in this
one are apparently the product of human re-engineering of
simian genes.  I thought the failure of the original series to ever mention
'genetic re-engineering' was one of its major logical gaps.
There's no way the apes could have advanced the way they did in
as short a time as they did without human intervention in their genes.  I
hope this is fully developed in the new movie, and perhaps is used as a major
'warning to mankind' theme.  That
would give the film some kind of intellectual depth.

Well, it seemed like a very slow day at the POTA e-group so I
thought I'd just throw this out.  Feel free to coment.   Now I'm going to go
watch "The West Wing."

-- Rory

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well I agree that our websites help bring awareness and definitely help promote POTA.

but I do think also taht the new film is goin to get awareness from the general public that may care about the old stuff and may NOT care about the old stuff.

 

because its on the internet it gives people an opportunity to check out stuff for free

this is a benefit but it does not prove that we are enough to support the film

 

 

Well, I agree Terry for also the GREATEST OF ALL TIME is WORD OF MOUTH.

So when it comes too my opinion on Fox's tacticts on advertisement, maybe I'm just talking out of my ass.

 

Oh well.

hehehehe!!

 

Best,

 

Alex

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<< Nope, it's not the fans who'll make or break this film - it's the ordinary
cinema-public public. >>

I have to agree with you on that one. Judging by the conventions I've been
to POTA
Fans account for maybe ten percent of the Sci-fi film going public. Buckaroo
Banzai fans even less. They're all SW or ST fans. To support this film we'd
all have to watch it 10 times, if we like it. We can only help it with our
humble contributions.
Even it I really like it, I probably won't see it more than twice. Maybe
three times.
Face it! We are a minority in the Sci-fi genre. Hopfully this film will
help change that.

<< There's no way the apes could have advanced the way they did in
as short a time as they did without human intervention in their genes. >>

I gots ta disagree wit cha' there Rory Calhoon. If in the first time line
Aldo was the first to say "NO" it was no doubt the result of DNA manipulation
or selective breeding by the human masters. However in the secondary time
line with Caesar's DNA they wouldn't need the 2000 years or a hundred
generations to produce evolved apes. Though Lisa didn't seem to need any
help. I wonder how long it took her to go from saying "NO" to saying " Not
tonight, Dear. I have a headache."

<< APES' fans may end up being ape-palled at the 'dumbing-down' of
the concept, which I fear is what has happened. >>

Oh God I hope not!
That's one of the things that made it great! -- Intelligent story on many
levels.
I hope they don't sling us a one dimensional gorilla fighting movie. Doesn't
sound like Burton though. I still have high hopes.

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>Face it!  We are a minority in the Sci-fi genre.  >Hopfully this film will
>help change that.

 

 

Well said T, and now you know why I make the effort to promote the film.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Hey Alan, thanks for the clarification. I know us POTA fans are but a
handful, but I'm hoping the new flick will appeal across the board to all
fans of sci-fi/action adventure. Maybe even make some new POTA fans. Always
room for more. John

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<< I'm hoping the new flick will appeal across the board to all
fans of sci-fi/action adventure. Maybe even make some new POTA fans. Always
room for more. >>

Right on John. At the risk of sounding like the self-appreciation society.
And as the brothers say . . . Damn Skippy! 'Cause no matter how good the new
film turns out, the is only one of them, for the time being. If they want
more . . . they gotta go back to the classics! Well, unless it's so
different there's a fan faction split!
Heaven forbid.

<< the cult followin of the old movies propably helped see the new movie
happen in the first place but it will be the general public in
masses/millions that determines whether this movie makes money and whether it
is good or not! >>

Well, Terry . . . I sound like the manager for The Commitments, Well Terry,
that's true, partly anyway. It will determine if it makes money. but just
because a lot of people like something doesn't make it good. If there's one
thing I know about any form of art, is it's all subjective. Many are good
and unpopular, and many are popular yet bad. Hanson for example. It may be
good for the people who like it, but their taste is in their mouths. I'd
rather it be good and popular, but if it's bad, I hope it's still popular.
It can only help our cause.

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Some time ago, when Gene R said that he had a new concept for ST, a Next
Generation,
all the cult followers threw up their arms: The high priest had blasphemed.

As it happened, STNG turned out not too bad (please insert your own opinion
here), even though it was quite different to the original.

It seems that we are having a very similar discussion...

So, I'll be watching the film on its own terms. The only downside I can see
is that Burton will miss the essence of POTA, which is not the hunt scenes
or the action material of Conquest, but the denial of something so
undermining to ape society, it had to be institutionally enforced. Think of
the most chilling scenes from the original, the ones that make you stop and
think:

Ursus' face at the start of the hunt (or is it Urko - pardon the ignorance).
Destroyed Statue of Liberty
The museum scene
Zaius crushing the aeroplane
Zaius rubbing out Taylor's writing
Zira's eyes on discovering Taylor can write
The 'dirty apes' moment - the ape reaction

I could go on. The point is that these are not 'action' scenes, but static
visuals.

Let's hope Burton isn't filming an ape version of the mongol hordes, which
is what I get from the pictures.

Rant over


M

In a message dated 2/15/01 1:25:08 AM Central Standard Time,
mark.gould@... writes:

<< Ursus' face at the start of the hunt (or is it Urko - pardon the
ignorance) >>
I think that was Markus

.htmlThe gorilla seen close-up during the hunt scene in the original POTA
was the "Hunt Leader."  He as also the gorilla that told Dr. Zaius he "didn't
understand these animal psychologists."  He was played by Norman Burton who
was also seen as a General in ESCAPE.

Marcus is the gorilla that pushes Dr. Zira away when she touches Taylor
hanging in the net.  He's also the gorilla Taylor tells to "Get your stinking
paws off me!"   And I think he's also the gorilla photographer that says
"Smile!".  He was played by an actor
named Robert Lombardo.

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From the latest "Empire" (A UK movie mag)

The 20 most anticipated movies

PLANET OF THE APES

What it's about? The hugely anticipated re-make to the 1968 classic,
this time with an Air Force pilot crash-landing on a bizarre,
ape-ruled planet.

ETA: AUGUST 17 (New UK release date?)

"Tim said to me, 'Don't take this the wrong way, but you're the first
person I thought of to play "Ari" Laughs Helena Bonham Carter of
being cast by Tim Burton as the rebellious ape and ally of the
fugitive humans.

With shooting in Arizona now completed, Empire has been on set in Los
Angeles and is delighted to report a spectacular result. Look out for
a full report in next month's issue.

"You can see I'm Less ape-Like and a bit more human unlike Michael
Clarke Duncan. Tim wanted the recipe to be 80 percent human, 20
percent ape," Bonham Carter adds, about the prosthetics designed by
Rick Baker. "But I've got eyebrows and things.They wanted to make me
Look attractive because I'm a kind of semi, not-quite-conventional
love interest for Mark.

How far does that go? "Well,we don't do 'it' if that's what you mean"

I'm still waiting for mine from Amok Time.
They waiting for more from Japan.
To quote Tom Petty the waiting is the hardest part.

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I'm still waiting for mine from Amok Time.
They waiting for more from Japan.
To quote Tom Petty the waiting is the hardest part.

 

 

The next time your out for medicoms go to:

www.matrixcollectibles.site.yahoo.net

 

This guy delivers at lightning speed.

I now have to my collection: Talyor Astonaut, Conquest Caesar and Conquest Gorilla. (Gift from a friend)

From the moment she purchased it, it took less than a week to arrive.

 

This vendor is very good.

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

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Mark Gould <mark.gould@...> wrote:

>Some time ago, when Gene R said that he had a new concept for ST, a Next
>Generation,
>all the cult followers threw up their arms: The high priest had blasphemed.
>
>As it happened, STNG turned out not too bad (please insert your own opinion
>here), even though it was quite different to the original.

Yeah, but for every ST:TNG, there's a Galactica 1980!

Alan

I grew up watching the original Trek on channel 11 here in New York (in
the good old days before cable) and I was very leary about a new version. And
what happens? It turns out to be one of the best one hour dramas ever. (after
a shakedown season or two) I like to think that could happen with Burton's
POTA. Roddenberry had his hand in on the initial seasons of Next Gen and I
think it's a good omen that Zanuck is in on the reimagining. Hell, they both
have their wives (or ex's) in on the fun. It's as if there's some strange
force at work..............John

Like the ad said "This is Marcus. Head of security police. His
specialty: Violence & Torture"

In todays NY Daily News, the cover story in the entertainment section
was about the NY Toy Show. The article was titled "Lights, Camera, Action
Figures". And the cover shot was the Leo Davidson figure in his very
ANSA-esque flight suit. He's holding some kind of gun. So I'm very psyched to
read this. I open to the article, full page. There's a picture of what looks
like Adar. I start reading.......and it's all about the Friggin' Lord of the
Rings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! More than half way through there's the line "And that's
only one movie" then there's a paragraph about POTA, then a couple of quick
references to Spiderman and Harry Potter. They even had a side bar about all
the great stuff coming from the Damn Rings!!!! That flick is really getting
on my nerves. Am I gonna hafta hear about it all the way to Christmas??????
Damn You ALL TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!! (crashing waves, fade to black) John

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     I grew up watching the original Trek on channel 11 here in New York (in
the good old days before cable) and I was very leary about a new version. And
what happens? It turns out to be one of the best one hour dramas ever.

 

Not only that but it also what gave Star Trek one major rebirth!

 

Best,

 

Alex 

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I like to think that could happen with Burton's
POTA. Roddenberry had his hand in on the initial seasons of Next Gen and I
think it's a good omen that Zanuck is in on the reimagining. Hell, they both
have their wives (or ex's) in on the fun. It's as if there's some strange
force at work..............John

 

 

Not only that but also the film is being released in 2001.

Last film Jacobs saw on the day of his death.

I'd say an omen and a half.

 

Rebirth in 2001.

An Ape Odyssey

 

Best,

 

Alex

 

 

 

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     In todays NY Daily News, the cover story in the entertainment section
was about the NY Toy Show. The article was titled "Lights, Camera, Action
Figures". And the cover shot was the Leo Davidson figure in his very
ANSA-esque flight suit. He's holding some kind of gun.

 

 

I have those images posted at:

www.prophecysite.com/pre-production2.htm

 

Enjoy.

 

Alex

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To bad APJAC ain't around to enjoy all this. John

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     To bad APJAC ain't around to enjoy all this. 

John

 

 

Well, if there really is a heaven, I'd say he's having a much better time then we are.

 

Life on earth is a bitch. :o)

 

Best,

 

Alex

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In a message dated 2/15/01 8:35:13 PM Central Standard Time,
JSe3689836@... writes:

<< Damn Rings!!!! >>

Yeah, I was never into Tolken. I read it when it came out because it was
assigned. Now I'm stuck in a Fantasy Fiction Composition II class. I
thought it might be Sci-fi or something. Nope, a bunch a damned elves!
Mostly. Yawk!

<< I grew up watching the original Trek >>

Yeah I avoided STTNG when it first came out.
But after watching the new one a while I went back and checked it out.
It wasn't bad after all. I guess I was put off by the video effects after
grwing up on film.

<< To bad APJAC ain't around to enjoy all this. John >>

Or would he?

In a message dated 2/15/01 2:23:08 PM Central Standard Time,
prophecysite@... writes:

<< For lightning fast medicoms. >>

Thanks Alex,

I canceled and reordered with them.
Didn't see any Lawgivers though.
Any of those about yet?

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Thanks Alex,

I canceled and reordered with them.
Didn't see any Lawgivers though.
Any of those about yet?

 

Not yet, but keep your eyes on that site.

When this guy says he's got stock, he has it.

When he doesn't, he does post it on the site.

 

So there's no delays with him.

You get what you pay for and quick.

 

Best,

 

Alex

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The next issue of Cinescape will have the new POTA on the cover, and a first
look article.  On sale soon.  I check cinescape.com everyday.

-- Rory

 

 

Thanks Rory.

I was wondering when Cinescape was going to get in on it.

Till now they've only had small articles from time to time.

 

Excellent. can't wait!

 

Best,

 

Alex

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Thanks Rory, can't wait to get mine. Where the hell is the mailman!!!!
John